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Haven’t been laid in a year and for the last 6 months I’ve been on an extreme self improvement binge.

Working on my fitness by going to the gym every day, making moves at work and busting my ass getting raises, working on my music skills, and working on my music production website.

I’ve also cut any negative friends out of my life and chill with my good friends on weekends.

Life, for the first time in awhile, is looking up and i can say that I’m actually happy with how it’s going even with no ass. When I was chasing girls, jumping from one fire to the next, I was depressed, didn’t care about myself, had no goals, and always had anxiety about her leaving me or becoming disinterested. Because I had nothing going on in my life.

I’m in absolutely no rush to get laid or get into any sort of relationship because I simply don’t give a shit now.

Anybody else come to this realization?


[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 93 points94 points  (14 children)

Many of the people that come here for pussy, leave hardly caring for it. Typically these are the ones that actually swallow the pill. This is because when the reality that women are largely a waste of time sets in, you're truly free.

That being said if you're exaggerating or being dishonest with yourself and us, I've heard it best summed up like this;

"If you are having success with women and doing it right, you aren't going to go MGTOW."

[–]idmfk 1 points1 points [recovered]

I was kicking and punching trying to get laid for a few months. Now, I just really honestly don’t give a shit.

I’m not going to be a drama queen and shout, “I’m a man going my own way!” That’s just pathetic.

But honesty if a girl wants to be a part of my life, she can pursue me and show me that she deserves to be a part of my life, and prove that she won’t be a nuisance. Until then, I’m all good, lol.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 55 points56 points  (8 children)

That's fine as long as you know that you're describing a fantasy and that you'll always have to show a base level of interest and actually talk to any girl you want to fuck.

[–]red_matrix 9 points10 points  (7 children)

If you want quality girls you need to do the chasing, they won't come to you. That's not how this shit works. Op needs to read the Book of Pook again.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You aren't wrong, but you simply need to initiate the chase with quality girls, not do all the chasing. Once you have initiated, then you can sit back and wait for them to chase you back.

[–]idmfk 1 points1 points [recovered]

I’ve read just about every recommended TRP book except for that one. You recommend it?

[–]MoebiusMedium 1 points1 points [recovered]

Pook is the originator of most of our RP stuff. He posted on early (EARLY) pua forums. He theorised, we’ll ahead of his time, that women are sexually charged feminine beings, thus are attracted to sexually charged masculine beings. He theorised that sex and sexuality are seperate concepts, and becoming a sexually charged man had more to do with becoming a man than chasing women. He theorised the effects of testosterone on attraction. He gave us lifting. He showed us feminism for what it is. He is the originator of the term “MGTOW”, which is now a very different movement from the one he envisioned. He disappeared from sight after seeing what “MGTOW” was becoming.

He is the Shakespeare of the red pill.

Yes it is required reading.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I don't blame him. MGTOW is no longer "men going their own way" it seems to be more "men hating women and blaming them for everything" atleast this is what /r/mgtow is like now. People stating "I hope she gets raped" or "she deserves to die"..... SMH

[–]red_matrix 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He is the Shakespeare of the red pill.

It reads like a professional wrote it, I always wondered if Rollo was the author.

[–]red_matrix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's the only one that matters.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel the same way, but worry that this selects for crazy chicks, because high value women are constantly being pursued and competed over. If you become passive because you REALLY don't care, which as you get older, becomes more and more of a thing, you can get jumped on by some crazy broad savvy enough to keep it under wraps until she has you hooked.

[–]Narcissist456 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mgtow doesn’t necessarily mean no pussy, it just means no commitment.

[–]blister333 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I understand your point and somewhat agree, but what is success? I doubt we’re talking about marriage and probably not LTRs. So a string of shorter term flings? I guess... doesn’t really seem like success really amounts to that much imo

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I define success as a never ending stream of girls in and girls out with low investment. To satiate being a male and having a sex drive. I don't fight it, and I certainly don't cheat it by jerking off in excess of once a week.

[–]RivenHalf 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Getting laid is great but there is millions of things that are great and far more fulfilling. The Red Pill teaches you that the most important thing is your own happiness and women can't and will not change that. If you're genuinely happy as you stand now then so be it.

[–]NewHum 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Also the more you develop yourself and the less you give a fuck about women the more they are attracted to you and will try to chase you.

[–]imtheoneimmortal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is so true, when you don't have target as i have to met 10 new girls sometime they will contact you

[–]zboo1h 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I have sex quite regularly and I still don't give a shit about it or "romance" or whatever. I don't pursue it any harder than I'd pursue a pizza that I'm ordering, it shows up at my door and I eat it then shit it out later and never think about it.

[–]VoidInvincible 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So how tall are you?

[–]yeezymacheet 5 points6 points  (0 children)

excellent wording haha, happy bday btw man!

[–]Mr_Badass 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is normal in monk mode, (currently 4 months). The more time I spend with women the less I care about chasing them. I have a higher calling for adventure and getting stuff done. I believe the reason this happens is due to an abundance mentality and that they are a distraction.

[–]empatheticapathetic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have lost my sex drive. Asked many questions about it over the last few years on here. I’ve definitely suppressed it somewhat and am having trouble bringing it back out in a healthy way.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I couldn't give a shit about romance even if I was looking for it.

After swallowing the red pill a couple years ago this is all I see when I look at the opposite sex: every girl is just another girl, they're all just the same, there's millions out there just like her, they're all just animals following their biological imperative. I'm not even able to take girls seriously anymore and I'm only 23.

Travel a bit and you'll reach this mindset in no time.

[–]cglehosit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, I’ve arrived here too. My epiphany was in Vegas, all these fake women wandering around drunk. That’s the dream right? A girls night in Vegas. And it’s pathetic. Now that’s all I see, the potential for them to be absolutely wasted.

[–]NewHum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im 22 and think exactly alike. Once you learn enough about females and their mentality you find out that 99% of them are doing exactly the same stuff and are all incredibly predictable and often quite pathetic in their daily pursuits.

[–]Peter_B_Long 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It comes and goes. Some days like this week I'll just be in the mood to focus on myself (gym, work, hobbies, plans with friends) and pussy will be the last thing on my mind, even though I'll still approach a cute girl just because I know I need the practice.

Some days maybe when I have all my shit together and I'm feeling happy with myself I'll hop on Tinder or set up a meet with a plate and I'll be a bit more focused on trying to get laid.

I think I just don't like hanging out with girls when I'm in a "productive / serious" mood. I think that I just like to "have fun" with girls you know by gaming, teasing, joking, etc. so when I'm in a serious almost monk mode state of mind, I don't even like to text my plates back or reply to some texts / DM's from girls.

[–]GucciGangBucks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but only if I’m incredibly focused on my purpose at the time. Me being successful is more important then women at this time in my life. If I’m heavy focused on goals I don’t have the time for the shit and my focus goes to my goals. If you’re mind is always on women and worrying about women you’re not redpill imo.

[–]beefthathasredmiddle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds a lot like me right now. It’s just almost been a year, one more week and it will be my no pussy anniversary. Certainly not intentional lol.

Though, my place is consistently clean, I doubled my income, I’m reading, going to the gym, and going out and trying new things.

I guess there was comfort in knowing I was at rock bottom. Still a lot of room going forward, and it wasn’t always easy cutting out toxic friendships. I think for the first time in my life I’m excited for my journey. Keep on going man, cheers.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, I love sex, can't get enough with different women.

[–]VoidInvincible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How tall

[–]Backfrominceldom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only feel like that when I'm not around pussy. I live ina very young and dynamic city where girls are gorgeous. One visit to the beach and I swear you'll change your mind. When you see 4-5 girls laying on the sand with just a thong and a fat, perfect oiled ass, then another 4 playing volley ball in the water with their tits bouncing, you'll feel the urge to fuck reallyreally bad.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes.

And I am always saying here, RP is not just about banging chicks. It is about becoming a real man and living life properly. I was forced to swallow the pill again on a dry throat recently because I realised I was not doing this (overweightness).

You build your frame and girls will come. Either way you have a frame. Money, muscle, longevity, health, happiness, attitude...all these things are important. Women are not important. They are just the good side effects of having a strong frame.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Happy for you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. Pretty much.

I was at a low-point in my life back then. I was obese, no job, no income, clinically depressed and all I think about is how to get girls. Don't get me wrong college was a blast and things were great but after I graduated everything went downhill for reason I've yet to figure out. After I had enough of all of it, I began to work myself up, learned new skills, went to gym and then lost a lot of weight, and have a career and all that.

Now I'm on a much better spot and eventhough life is far from perfect when you are self-confident in yourself, women usually came like an after-thought than something you fret yourself every day. I've been single for about few years by now and although it does bother me from time to time going out alone on weekends and all, at the end of the day I think I wouldn't trade-off all of the things I've worked on just for the sake of a woman, especially if I heard all the stories that go around about LTR nightmare out there.

It's not a good idea to let yourself down just for the sake of getting laid anyway. If you are going into any LTR I suggest you do it with a clear conscience rather than necessity, since if you flip the script you might be compelled to stay in the relationship to settle and you think with your dick, not because you honestly want to have a good partner. Been there done that.

[–]Morphs_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It will likely change for what it is: women as a fun pastime without drama or extensive attention. At least, that's what it is right now for me. I feel great and focus on myself, while getting loads of pussy whenever I like.

[–]Tousen71 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That monk mode is real my guy. Much respect. I’ve been looking to cut off all pursuits myself but breaking the hunter urge has been difficult. I’ve got 2-3 distant plates (can hit them up to chill but they aren’t on my dick) and I just reloaded the Bumble and Tinder accounts. How did you break through the “I need to fuck something NOW” urge?

[–]NewHum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here Brother!

Im 22 and hadn’t had sex since the end of high school and so far I don’t give a single fuck about it.

For the last two years I have been so busy improving myself that I hardly have the time for friends let alone women. I have been working hard on my career, have started boxing every day of the week, I run every day and hit the gym 6 days of the week.

When you compare all that to dealing with women it just seams like the most tremendous waste of time.

[–]needoptionsnow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

MTGOW

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Incel cope it is.

[–]abudun79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not normal if the strongest instinct (by far) that you have fails you. For a period of time it might be overwritten by something else, like the success you described.

Hormones, addiction, fear, ... whatever it is you should check that, it is not good for you.

If you perceive thant as an achievment of any kind, see a therapist.

[–]hazaraMoghul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MGTOW babe

[–]Shredderick420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you on ableton?

I guess fulfillment comes in many different ways.

[–]willowhawk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How much you wanking dude

[–]bluefingerblue 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If you stopped wanking I’m gonna guess you’ll start caring about sex.

[–]idmfk 1 points1 points [recovered]

But if I start caring about sex, then I’m most likely going to get intertwined in feels. And I’m feeling great, last thing I want is any anxiety or negative feelings.

[–]3chazthundergut 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That's the thing though. You're supposed to deal with feelings and attachments and emotions.

Deal with them and handle them.

Don't live your life afraid of a bitch. Time to leave the bat cave and go bag yourself a Joker.

Good luck.

[–]3d_truth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You haven't had a realization. I think you are lying to yourself. The fact that you had anxiety about girls leaving you shows me that you haven't transcended sex and relationships, you are just hiding from a part of yourself you don't like.

You get anxiety about girls leaving you think you need girls to be happy. To change this, we don't shut ourselves off and avoid girls and think that we have improved because we no longer have to experience that feeling. We change by realising that if a girl leaves us, we are absolutely fine. It doesn't even affect us, or diminish us, because our happiness comes from ourselves and not girls.

That being said, this attitude is attractive to girls, and thus we still have girls in our life and enjoy having sex with them.

Edit// also, girls aren't going to pursue you. If you want to have casual sex with hot girls, you have to make it happen. And don't tell me you don't want that.

[–]trpboy123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a phase.

[–]ThatGuyIam123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

U could always switch teams and have anal sex with men.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Apathy/depression phase.

[–]PappaSmurfAndTurf -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Check out r/MAGTOW it might be a little more up your alley.