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And that he has been paying $2300 a month for the past 10 years and has 8 years left (until kids are 18). This is in Australia btw.

I was literally speechless. He also said he hasn't seen them in like 7 years too.

How in the realm of fuck is this possible?

I literally thought it was like 500/1000 a months MAX.

I will be wearing 2 condoms from now on.


[–]MNCPA137 points138 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

I'm not an older guy but I pay 70% of my income to the whore that stole our kids from me.

Family court is fucked, if you are a dad.

[–]bf1bro18 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

70 percent. Dude how do you cope, honestly?

[–]MNCPA74 points75 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I am currently spending my kids' college funds in lawyer fees. No, I won't give up on my kids. Got to keep positive. There really is no other choice for the next 15 years.

[–]TRPTosser27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's fucking brutal. Good luck.

[–]TimPartendale6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s also a shit situation because fighting to pay less theoretically means your kids will get less but it also means you’ll be able to sustain yourself and your ex won’t get her paws on your money.

[–]MNCPA9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've already tried to mediate the situation but her response is that she wants to go to court. Yes, this was via text messaging. Yes, we are bringing it to court.

[–]AwkwardEmpath1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but how do you know everything you're giving to your ex wife is actually going directly to your kids? How much is spent buying clothes so she can look good and get dick?? This is fucked up. Child support should work different so it's directly relative to what your kids need.

[–]flapjacksrbetter1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Is it possible to not marry but have the “wedding” and kids. Would the courts still side with the women because u guys live together even tho a formal marriage certificate was never signed?

[–]MNCPA5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Some states have a de facto marriage clause where if you live like you are married to someone for x amount of years, then you are legally married. Fir example, in Iowa, it is 7 years.

Child support is based on parentage.

[–]flapjacksrbetter3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Theres no way around it huh. Gotta give half your stuff to her even if u guys didnt sign

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the hell

[–]mushroom_overlord1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

With the kid in play, it doesn't matter, as you don't have to be married to pay child support. That would be where 70% of his income is supposedly going. the only thing she theoretically gets to herself is in the divorce, so not marrying and being in a state without common law marriage (look it up) avoids that problem. However, once the kid pops out you are fucked if you split and get a bad deal in court, no matter whether you were bonded in holy matrimony.

Of course, in practice she is spending more money on herself than the kids, so you may as well just be paying her having never married her. Either the court system does not understand how selfish people are, or it is actively being a method for women to get a free ride; I think a bit of the former and a lot of the latter.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That number seems way too high buddy, get a better Attorney.

[–]Snowaey1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This makes me so angry honestly..

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev93 points94 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Dunno about the laws in Aus, but in the States you can pay 40% of your gross to a woman basically to bang other guys and teach your kids to hate you.

And yet, guys still get married.

There's a documentary called "Divorce Corp" on youtube that goes into how fucked divorce is in the states. Should be required watching for anyone considering marriage here.

[–]bf1bro18 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

I've got a friend who's SO "told him" they are getting married. Next minute they are openly speaking of a 200 guest all expenses paid for 35k wedding in 6 months time and I'm over here thinking 'But you have 2 cars to pay off and a college debt?' lmao.

The whole I love you so much so I want the government to get involved thing is so absurd and weird to me.

[–]Aggressive_Beta7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It is very weird how much people want to increase the amount of control the government has over them, despite how much control it already has over them. Statism is simultaneously a religion and a cancer

[–]Turkerthelurker7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The decline of religion hasn't made people less religious, it's just changed which authority they worship.

[–]Aggressive_Beta2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Instead of worshipping a creator that may or may not exist and not give a fuck about them, they worship a government that they know for fact exists and definitely does not give a fuck about them

[–]bcdude21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are benefits to getting married on paper... Tax purposes, inheritances. If you truly love the other person, you definitely want to make sure they're gonna be okay if something happens to you.. Doesn't got to be marriage but it can make things easier.

[–]TimPartendale5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s insanity but the cost-per-guest of a wedding in the US is now creeping up to ~$140/person. At 200 people, that’s $28,000 already. Factor in the ring, dress, photographer, DJ, booze for now 200 guests, exclusive venue... it can get out of hand quickly.

An easy fix is to not invite so many damn people - many of which you’ll never talk to again after the wedding. Got a large family? Trim the wedding itself to immediate family and invite everyone else to a reception. Spending more than 12k on a wedding seems like a lot to me... and I have money to waste.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's WHY you have money to waste....because you don't waste it on stupid shit like fancy parties for overgrown and underfunded, faux-princesses that don't want to pay for their own "tea parties". Smart man.

[–]morescoobysnacks 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

> There's a documentary called "Divorce Corp" on youtube that goes into how fucked divorce is in the states

Some real netflix and chill material

[–]TheReformist942 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact women take this option shows they are sick in the head.as a man,I wouldn't take them to the cleaners given that option.

[–]cl35372 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You pay child support whether you get married or not.

[–]pame121 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Any idea how the marriage situation is in Europe?

[–]KaptainKorea8444 points45 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Jesus fuck man. That's terrifying. Gotta wrap up.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fr just last night this bitch wanted to throw the condom away for me in the bathroom but I fucking told her I would do it and flushed that bitch.

[–]babybopp2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She can still swallow and regurgitate like a cow chewing cud

[–]Jacked170330 points31 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I have 2 kids. I left my marriage due to infidelity by my ex wife.

I work a regular job making slightly over 50K a year while she remained voluntarily unemployed.

According to the calculations offered by the court (Virginia, USA) I would’ve been expected to pay $900 per child per month, and $400 per month in spousal support.

I work 4 days on 4 days off and have my kids all 4 of my days off.

So ultimately, according to court calculations I’d pay $2200 for two kids despite having them half the time.

All this on top of having to keep her and both the kids on my health insurance.

[–]telop111 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Wait, "would've"? Is it only hypothetical because you could prove she cheated?

[–]Jacked170319 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No. The spousal support is the only thing that would change solely based on the infidelity. Child support stays the same.

Also infinitely in insanely hard to gain divorce on.

It’s a criminal issue. For abandonment or any other civil grounds for divorce you have to provide proof enough under the standard called “preponderance of the evidence” which just means more likely than not. For adultery, since it’s criminal you have to meet the standard of proof that is “beyond a reasonable doubt.” To put it another way with preponderance you have to provide 51% of proof, for reasonable doubt you have to provide 99.9% of proof.

Adultery also solely means sex, you must prove that actual sex occurs. So even if you can provide video of two people rolling around under covers and moaning that doesn’t meet the standard of proof of reasonable doubt.

I had other bargaining chips to use to knock down the amount of child support and spousal support.

[–]TimPartendale11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like you’d have to set up a nanny cam to catch your wife banging some other dude, with FBI facial reconstruction of the video evidence, followed by a forensic semen analysis of the bed covers, all to prove, beyond a doubt, that she cheated on you.

[–]blackswans04212 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck

[–]cl35371 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha we don't have such stupid laws. No Fault Divorce in Canada it doesn't matter what the reason is the money split doesn't change.

The USA has some great places but your legal system is so fucked up and you are such a litigious gun toting society.

If I ever move to Florida I am going to have to get lawyer friends and make sure I avoid all the "traps".

[–]WontonSoup772 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just to offer a counter, I make a good amount more than you in the same state but only pay 200 with 50/50. My ex is not unemployed though which I’m sure plays a big part.

[–]Jacked17031 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My answer was based solely on the court calculations. Using the bargaining chips I had I knocked her down to agreeing to $240 per month per child.

And yes, her employment status plays a ridiculously large amount into the court calculations. Even if she had a minimum wage job it would cut my liability in about half

[–]1ForeverNandrolone27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is in New York.

My ex was a bit of a bum and only worked about half the time we were married. I made about $150k a year working a shit ton of overtime to make up for the fact that she didn’t bring in much money. She made $30k a year when we divorced. I pay $2500 a month for 3 years and then $2000 a month for 6 years. $234000 over 9 years. Here’s the kicker, we never had kids! This is just me paying her because she was a fucking bum. Don’t get married.

NEVER HAD KIDS!

[–]Kommanderdude 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Alimony is a bitch. Prenup is required these days of your dead set on being married.

[–]stillah3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

prenups get thrown out all the time in court. if you get married in america, you are not as smart as you think you are.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My dad was making 100k a year in California in the mid 90's. Mom didn't work. Dad got hit with an order for $2300 a month in child support and alimony for one child (me). Mom decided she didn't have to work anymore at that point. I lost a TON of respect for my mother at that point. It went on for about a year until my dad decided "F&ck it, if she doesn't work, neither will I" and it got reduced to a reasonable $600/mo child support and no alimony. Mom got a job, and some of my respect back. Dad got to live in a house without wheels again.

I decided I wouldn't marry a woman that didn't make close to what I did for exactly this reason. I don't mind paying for my child, but I'm not going to be private welfare for some lazy woman with a vendetta. Its 2018, we're equals.....get your ass to work.

[–]bf1bro18 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck man that must have been a significant AWALT situation looking back. Like to see your mom decide not to work cause she has this free magical money pouring in from the sky instead.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, and see my dad bust his ass 50+ hours most weeks to support us and him. Just because he left doesn't mean he should have to support her forever. Stupid CA alimony laws. This is 2018, we are equals. Get your ass a job, woman. Now, I'm a high-earner and will not remarry, but when I dated before I met my now-ex wife, I would not date women that didn't have a college degree or 60k+ income. I was looking for a wife and because most marriages don't last, I wanted to be sure that I didn't have to support some lazy housewhale who is getting nailed by the neighbor kids after we divorce. My ex-wife now earns her $$, no alimony and actually has some self-worth and self-esteem. Imagine that. NAWALT....just a little bit.

[–]BPasFuck38 points39 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Why do you dummies think we continually preach 'Don't get married!' here?

Jesus Christ.

If someone really could break down how much of the 'child support' actually goes to paying for mom's make up, and clothes so she can snare a new man, instead of 'the kids,' well... it'd be some shameful shit.

Worse, how much of the money goes to pay for her and her new man's entertainment?

[–]MuhTriggersGuise4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Child support is regardless of marriage.

[–]LiveAFTSOV0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can you explain the "fatherless children" epidemic then?

How is that possible? How are people dodging child support and the divorce courts?

[–]BPasFuck3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The epidemic is exaggerated.

Why?

So courts and others can accrue more power.

There are entire industries predicated upon forcing a non-custodial spouse (Usually the man) to pay up.

[–]BPasFuck-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You're being pedantic.

Married guys are more likely to have fathered children when the relationship ends, than unmarried guys.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

40% of children being born out of wedlock is pedantic? Lol k. Sorry.

[–]BPasFuck1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd be curious to see how those numbers break down by ethnicity.

[–]cl3537-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Stay in school junior, keep reading, wedlock has nothing to do with being a father or a child being fatherless.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Really? Wow it's almost like I was commenting that child support decisions are regardless of whether a couple was married, and not whatever bullshit you're being a catty little bitch about.

[–]cl3537-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I already posted that above in Adult language. (no LOL, no k. no sorry).

Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Good-luck luck in September in your next year of high school.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol k.

[–]TimPartendale1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like a good TV reality show. I’m sure all of the child’s portion is not actually enriching the child.

[–]cl35371 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Because those smarter than a doorknob around here(that may be stretching it for some) either:

A) Doesn't live in a mensrape divorce country(the world isn't the same). B) If they do live in mensrape country is smart enough to get an airtight prenup and live in a state with reasonable laws.

[–]BPasFuck2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No such thing as an airtight prenup.

There's no small number of guys that thought they had a secure prenup, and found out there are all kinds of excuses a judge may use to toss them (prenups) out.

[–]cl3537 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

When prepared and used correctly, a prenuptial agreement is the best way to protect your interests.

But of course if your name is Ebenezer and you live your whole life scared of women and your children taking you to the cleaners than keep repeating the same dumb shit from this cult.

Nothing in life is 100%, family law judges are notorious for ignoring contracts and jurisprudence which leads to some horror stories but usually those happen when the contract was coerced, or brutally one sided without justification.

I should know I had one, it held up, and I didn't get divorce raped. But you are free to stay ignorant of this your whole life don't need more dumb shit children running around anyway.

[–]BPasFuck1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hahaha-- you couldn't hold yourself back, could you?

GJ, tough guy.

[–]cl35371 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No Gold Digger is trying to steal half of the $9/hour you make at McDonalds junior you can sleep well tonight.

[–]defkon0114 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Triple condoms + vasectomy for me! Will only make love with my hands from now on.

[–]Ruby_Red_Pill_Maker7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

fun fact, if you double or triple condoms the woman gets double or triple pregnant. However, idk what would happen when combined with vasectomy.

[–]daxxipro2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The secret to twins or triplets revealed!

[–]redpillbanana14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Relevant video (for US and especially California residents): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW_S5KBX-Xo

[–]kyzen1421 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That was savage.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And that's in AFTER-TAX DOLLARS. And she doesn't have to pay taxes on it. Ponder on that one!

[–]somebullshitrp9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I pay my ex $1,750 a month in alimony. The payments will go on for three years until they're done. This was after a TWO year marriage. After that I can look forward to another 15 years of partying $1,000 a month in child support.

Never marry.

[–]cl3537-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here is another take, you got off cheap and you have kids that she is going to take care of. Get off your cheap lazy(or dumb) ass and make more money.

[–]obonaven9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I pay just over 50% of my take home pay to my Ex for Alimony and Child support. Just under $3k.

[–]clockwise12568 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

In Australia, child support is based on the percentage of care that each parent has per week or fortnight. If OP had care of the kids for even 1 day a week then his payments would drop by like 15%

[–]TimPartendale11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

But that’s a double whammy to a wife: she’ll have to lose the kids for a day to Dad and lose some of her monthly free money.

[–]dgillz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo.

[–]2johnnight5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It would be much better if the state regulated this on a true cost basis.

[–]Solomint9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the state doesn't regulate anything on a true cost basis. And it makes sense for the state to pander to women from a political objectives perspective because women tend to vote for whomever keeps the bureaucratic growth momentum going strong as long as you throw em a few bones. That's why the franchise was expanded in the first place

[–]cl35371 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Difficult to do it that way, family in the nice big house, you expect a one family income (wife usually makes a fraction if anything as the husband) to afford two nice big houses when they could barely afford one before.

[–]chachaChad6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You have no idea how much this guy makes a month. I would gladly pay $2300 a month and not even notice it.

I don't think there is a max number here in the US. It's based of what you make and what she makes. If she hasn't had a job and isn't going to be getting one, you're on the hook for the entire thing. On the other had, if she has a job or is capable of getting one, the judge may take that into account.

[–]FemtoG9 points10 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I've thought a lot about how I would deal with such a situation. My only plan is as follows really:

  1. Try to hide as much as possible in crypto.
  2. Move to a foreign country.
  3. Write a book for my kid(s) to read to explain my side of the story
  4. Just pray that they haven't been completely brainwashed to hate their father.

[–]cimsoc 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah great plan, abandon your kids. Leave them void of masculine leadership. Oh, but you left a book! How noble. Get the fuck out of here. This mindset is why western civilization is falling and feminism is thriving.

[–]HiredMind7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

To an extent, I agree. All running away does is cede the battlefield to the enemy (Referring to the courts as 'enemy' here, not women. Women are who they are.)

On the contrary, we should be organizing; demanding reform; pressuring our representatives; offering and sponsoring legislation.

[–]Playerslife4me1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's been tried to death, not going to happen. In case you haven't noticed, we are exponentially worse off then even just ten years ago.

The real solution is for people to stop believing government is a legitimate authority. Fat chance of the happening as well. Most people love government authority and wish to use it as a means to control people to their desires.

[–]Playerslife4me1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You think seeing your kids four days a month while the mother is brainwashing them 26 days gives them masculine leadership...lol. I've got prime ocean front property for you in AZ.

[–]gaki1230 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hey bro but at least he will leave a BOOK who cares about father presence!

fucking lmao what a dumbass

[–]Playerslife4me2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You're a real loser. Go get raped by the courts and have your life destroyed by the courts all the while having your kids taught to hate you. Yeah, that will show em you're a man.

P.S. What does that teach your kids? Your girls will learn that men are there to extort. Your boys will learn that being a "man" is to let everyone beat on you and you just take it.

[–]gaki123 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck off schizo. Kill yourself.

[–]Ruby_Red_Pill_Maker4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

2300 is low and it's probably low because of the court case being 8 years ago. I see new guys getting out with 5-7k/month.

[–]1atticusfinch19734 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

As much as I love my kids if there was some kind of BS settlement like that which would require me to be in the poorhouse I would leave the country. I’d do my best to let my kids know I loved them as much as I could and exactly why I couldn’t be there with them. Hopefully when they got older they would understand.

[–]Sunny_072 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What country are you going to?

[–]0FO64 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes I am sure that is more than possible. Also, doesn’t have to even be your own kid either. I am paying child support for a kid that isn’t mine. While I have 2 of the kids that are mine.

[–]eaazzy_131 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wtf?? How’s that work man?

[–]0FO61 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was more or less coerced into putting my name down on his birth certificate which established me as his father. After the years that we were together he wasn’t specifically told (her desire that I went along with). We then separated and initially he lived with me, then not too long ago due to issues I was having with him and the other kids decided to fly him to where the ex lives (she lives a couple thousand miles away in a different state). At which point she told him that I wasn’t his father. But the state they are in doesn’t care since I have been established as the father I am fully responsible for him. Even though at this point it is highly unlikely that I will really see him let alone spend any significant time with him because she has him all on the hate train against me. Like she has him convinced that I mentally abused him among other crap. She is rather good at gaslighting people, which is unfortunate that she would do it to her own kid. Also the state is content on punishing my success in this as well, since I make significantly more money than she ever could dream of I am required to pay more in general.

[–]francie-brady4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My life seems so much better now after reading this.

[–]nordicpolarbear2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s why it’s just cheaper to keep her if you can. Make sure she works full time too.

[–]gothgar2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I pay $ 2,000

[–]2319Skew2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, it's messed up. You have zero control on where the money goes. If she buys your kids food or uses it to buy a new perfume for her date. You have zero say on it. Only thing you can do is not think about it.

[–]whoareyou312 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I really hope all these testimonies in this thread are real and truthful because after reading this shit, it’s really making me not want to get married.

[–]Playerslife4me1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It should be making you to not want to have kids.

[–]whoareyou311 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I want to have kids. Part of why i want to make hella money is to raise a family. I think ill still get married ceremony wise but no legal contract

[–]Playerslife4me1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That is still a bad idea. You should not cohabitate with a woman under any circumstances. She decides she wants your money and ride all the cock she wants she can call the police and claim you assaulted her. The police will come and they will arrest you regardless. Then she will file a protection order against you and put your kids on it. Now you can't go to your own house or see your own children. If you bought the house while you were together she will have a legitimate case for half of the house. With all this money you are making the child support will be in the thousands while only being allowed supervised visits of your children.

Just say no

[–]whoareyou312 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why you pick a girl who is going to contribute to the mortgage as well.

"ride all the cock she wants" ....what is with this idea that all women cheat. I like redpill, but the extremism is seriously ruining the core of redpill. AWALT and all women are whores ideals are very incel/women hating.

This isnt what redpill about. Stop promoting bullshit.

[–]mrHappyPotatoe2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Australia is fucked. And my friend wants to go to live there. Lol. Good luck.

[–]cl35371 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Better laws than the US you need to read better junior.

1) There is a CAP on child support. 2) There are guidelines and some jurisprudence not some redneck judge deciding to fuck your life forever.

You must be trump.

[–]mrHappyPotatoe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are fun at parties i can tell.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, marriage and kids is no joke my friend.

Being married is Red Pill on Nightmare Mode.

Make sure you find the right one, do not settle. Marriage isn't for everyone.

[–]Original_Dankster3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Vasectomy. Best decision I ever made.

[–]LiveAFTSOV1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

You basically deleted yourself from the gene pool lol

[–]Playerslife4me2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the most pathetic things I see spouted around here. This belief proves you are a slave to your desires and emotions.

I would consider this as completely anti red pill

[–]LiveAFTSOV0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

"Being a slave to desires and emotions" would be getting a vasectomy to continue reaching orgasms without worrying about kids, or vomiting emotional garbage like you did right now.

That's anti red pill.

I considered getting a vasectomy for hedonistic purposes. Decided against it for the same reason I told you, it's deleting yourself from the gene pool lol.

I like having the possibility of procreation when I smash ass.

[–]Original_Dankster0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You can romanticize / fetishize reproduction all you want, but whether there's a replicant me after I'm gone won't make a difference to me after I'm gone. But in the meantime, I'm thoroughly enjoying life with little risk of disruption.

When you smash ass and get an oops baby with a BPD psychopath who destroys your life in divorce court, remember this post.

[–]Black_m0ngoose0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Tagging /u/playerslife4me as this was directed at his reply, but you can still get something out of this perhaps.

The red pill is about seeing the world for what it is, not how you want to see it.

He is absolutely right, you deleted yourself from the gene pool.

Your only response should be "yes, I did. Your point?"

Instead, you break fame to defend yourself. Never DEER, you owe him no explanation. You only validate his claim that you're weak.

A man who has a castle is a shave to it, because then he is obligated to defend it.

Simply be a man without a castle, then you have nothing to defend- you are then free.

When you smash ass and get an oops baby with a BPD psychopath who destroys your life in divorce court, remember this post.

Don't be a slave to fear.

[–]Playerslife4me0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That would make this subreddit quite short. I'm not gaming anyone on here like they're a woman. I'm simply making a counter stance. Implying that you are somehow less of a man for not wanting kids is feminist shaming language and has no place here.

To follow your logic all the way through, it would be a loss of frame by replying at all. I should ignore to keep frame. That would make for a subreddit filled with nothing but bullshit.

[–]LiveAFTSOV-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You act like having kids is bad.

It's not good or bad, it just is.

Go enjoy life. That's good.

[–]Original_Dankster0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What difference does that make to me and the amount of utility I can extract from the world before I die? ZERO.

[–]LiveAFTSOV-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Still funny though. It's a factual statement. Lol. Dont get mad.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

always make sure your bitch has a job before marrying her. and if she suggests she might quit, suggest you might divorce her

[–]cl35371 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In Canada child support is on a fixed schedule (no judge can change it) and its based on the income of both spouses. The law assumes the more money the parents make the higher the cost of living should be for the children.

Assuming his ex makes nothing he probably makes between 300,000 and 350,000 net a year and the child support is peanuts like 9 - 10% of net income after taxes. Much less than if he had pay to take care of the kids full time.

Australia has a very similar system and fixed capped formula like Canada but one thing is clear he has two or more kids (the cap for one kid is less than 2300/month), its a lot more fair than in the United States, child support is for the children and no judge or lawyer can change the formula.

[–]enderbeannn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know you're kidding or at least I hope so but 2 condoms is less effective than 1

[–]xxLMxx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I paid more than that (2 kids 25% of pre tax income, California) plus another 1,800 a month in alimony. It sucked but I'm past it

[–]sjdfhskdjfh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know why men like that don't just go live off-grid in some SE asian country instead

[–]ripSOCRATES1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is no one going to tell him that double wrapping condoms makes it easier to break the condom? or did the joke fly over my head?

[–]OfficerWade1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I pay 800 month for a 8 year old and I’m only bringing home 4000 month net before taxes. Houston, TX

It used to be 400 month when I made 2500 a month so yeah, if you make more they gone getcha.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love that on top of all of this, I can't look at a tv or a cell phone without seeing that the pay gap between men and women is unfair. American women really have it bad. The next civil war really might be between women and men, with beta orbiters fighting on the side of women.

[–]lazydogg91 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The 2 condoms thing cracks me up!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–]Bruchibre-5 points-4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

He seems to have more than 1 kid from what you write?

Also he's senior = he's probably earning a lot.

If it's for the children why not, as long it's not alimony for the ex-wife. I mean, you won't bring your money in your tomb so you might as well share it with your own offspring.

[–]Playerslife4me11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad it doesn't actually go to the kids

[–]nb2k4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, in Australia there is no such thing as alimony. It is based on your income and the percentage you see the child. Still I would want to be in the child's life not only for being their father but at least to make sure the money is being used on the child.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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