Red Pill TheoryRemember, Red Pill Theory without Self-Improvement is MASTURBATION (self.TheRedPill)

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So here I am, right now, in the bathroom stall of my gym's locker room spilling the liquified contents of my bowels into their porcelain receptacle. When I'm done, despite my stomach tied in knots, I'm going to finish my workout. Who has time for this shit? Literally.

Point being, I have a goal and I won't let anything get in my way. When I fall off the horse, and I do, I don't cry or beat myself up for it... I try and try again to build my momentum back.

The Red Pill takes the kind of old school grit and hard work rarely seen today. The Red Pill is not a TLDR.

The Red Pill takes tons of reading, video/pod cast viewing, different examples exhibiting the same principle, similar examples exhibiting different principles, similar examples exhibiting the same principles, you get the idea... until it is internalized.

"Swallowing the pill," is day one. You've chosen to be a student of the pill... Internalizing the pill is a life long process.


The Red Pill is not a circle jerk.

The Red Pill is a plan to make you the best man you can be in every way. It isn't about being right, or how smart you are, or that you "get it," or how fucked the friends who married poorly are going to be, or how the girl who didn't suck your dick is gonna hit the wall...

The Red Pill is about you, being your best; achieving the most; unlocking your potential; making every day you have count.

Never lose sight of that.

Now, I have a workout to finish...

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[–]Evolved_Red 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Agree with this, and also the trap of falling into the (mostly noobie) circlejerk of "man, fuck these bitches!" Or " woman does this: lol." Calling out women for being women is self-defeatist.

That isn't self improvement. Once it doesn't affect you at all, i.e. Don't give a fuck, only then you'll experience personal growth.

[–]boydeer -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That isn't self improvement. Once it doesn't affect you at all, i.e. Don't give a fuck, only then you'll experience personal growth.

eh. i see people having to go through a period of aggressive rejection of the idea that women are better than men. once you make certain mechanics clear to someone, i don't know how they could possibly readjust without going through that phase.

i mean, after a few months, i'm accepting it and it's mostly funny or sad. i have more power because i'm not pretending shit is different from how it is all the time.

EDIT: i agree that you have to move past it, though.

[–]85ways 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I read this comment this afternoon and realized I was doing exactly what you said. I picked up my shit and went beast mode at the gym. Thanks.

[–]Hatorader 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Off topic: I was having a conversation with an older female cocktail waitress (about 50-60 years old) today about my girlfriend, and she told me that men love more deeply than women. I felt a huge weight lift off my chest and this women will never know how good it made me feel to hear her say that. I just wanted to leave this here so I don't forget it actually happened. Thanks again guys.

[–]Aaron565 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I you don't do this, you have no value and thus your opinion has no value.

Because women derive their value (often, not always) from their looks, their opinions always matter. Its funny to think that when they loose their looks suddenly they start complaining that they have to make value, like a man does!

[–]Bucky_Goldstein 26 points27 points  (4 children)

"old school grit and hard work rarely seen today"

I was home at christmas and visiting with family, and somehow we came across the topic of my great grandpa, and how he used to love to play the piano. Now growing up in a rural farming community, they didn't have a lot of time for dances in the summer as they were all busy with their subsistence farming. When Winter rolled around, they would all get together and have dances at the hall.

I mentioned great grandpa liked to play the piano, well all 5'7" of him (and I'm assuming a few friends) would move the piano out of the house, onto a horse drawn sleigh and then ride two hours in the cold to get to the hall with the piano in tow, play some songs at the dance and then cart it home....

I sat there dumbfounded for a while, if someone wanted me to put a piano in the back of my truck and haul it to a dance, I'd probably tell them that was a hilarious idea and walk away.

I feel like I've lost a lot looking back, living in a city seems to have made me soft.

Its been an introspective time though since I heard that, now its time to go do some sit-ups

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Cool story, bro.


I think one of the things we have to remember when hearing stories like this is that they occurred in the context of strong, internally-cohesive communities that did things together, and got feelings of satisfaction of accomplishment form doing so.

Yes, loading a piano in the back of a truck is hard work, but five guys together can certainly do it, and when a community full of people who know them and love them appreciate the work they went to... it doesn't seem so bad.

Yes, we are lazier now, but we are not lazier because the men of the past were made of sterner stuff. Instead, they worked harder because they were better rewarded. The trick to breaking out of laziness is finding ways to love yourself when your society doesn't, and rewards for your progress when the system is no longer set up to dispense them.

[–]Bucky_Goldstein 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not lazy, I do a lot of stuff, its just that hearing things like that make me kinda reflect on "what used to be" and how things have changed through the years.

Men were Men because you couldn't be some skinny jean wearing vegan hipster back then, you'd die because they were subsistence farming and hunting as first generation immigrants to Canada. Your hard work determined whether you lived or died that winter, along with the rest of your family, you were the provider.
Life wasn't easy as they were carving out a living, but the direct result of your work was visible, build a fence, build a barn, and its a tangible thing and the benefits to you and your family were immediate. They were definitely rewarded well for their hard work, but it was a hard life!

[–]HahahahaWaitWhat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I feel like I've lost a lot looking back, living in a city seems to have made me soft.

At the risk of drifting off-topic, consider taking up backpacking as a hobby. (Meaning, hiking in the backcountry for two or more days straight, carrying camping gear on your back.)

Not that it compares in difficulty to dragging pianos around, but it will teach you quite a lot about yourself (you're much tougher than you think you are, for one thing) as well as about cooperation with small groups. Plus, it's a lot of fun.

I live in the city too and it changed my life.

[–]Bucky_Goldstein 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the idea of that, just get out and go out into the bush. I't really does appeal to me to just get away from everything for a few days

my current project is restoring/modifying a vintage bike, it makes me happy and I never expected it to make me that happy when I've been working on it. I think just being able to "do" things with my hands and repair and tune really is where I'm happy. I bought the bike, 1980 Honda CX500 and it had been neglected for quite a few years, a lot of dust, dirt and oil caked on everything from a few small leaks. I probably spend 30 hours scrubbing every part and piece I take off the bike, repainting parts, finding new parts on ebay. Its all just like a big theraputic puzzle in the end and I can spend 8-9 hours just sitting there working on it. The best part is how well it runs now that i've gone through nearly everything in the bike, and I should be able too ride it this summer after spending all last summer going through it.

its not quite as difficult as dragging around a piano, but there is something about getting a motorcycle running that makes me happy!

I like the city life, as I grew up in a small town and didn't really like it there, but the city has some challenges as well, namely stress seems to be the worst one.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 40 points41 points  (10 children)

Good post.

And I'll add something I said already. If you are not fucking anything then cut your /r/theredpill time to 1hr a week, or less, it will do you no good. You will simply grow more and more bitter and hateful towards women and that's not the way to go.

Misery is comfortable. It's easier to sit in the back of the car than drive it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision[S] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I agree but would change "fucking anything" to "active in the game"; as long as you're out there getting blown out on opening girls, or dates, or escalation, I'd say Red Pill theory helps tremendously. For noobs, the attempt should be the first success barometer.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 7 points8 points  (0 children)

would change "fucking anything" to "active in the game"; as long as you're out there getting blown out on opening girls, or dates, or escalation


[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rejection is success, unless you go 0/100.

[–]VirgoRooster 8 points8 points [recovered]

I would advise a lot of novices reading this to go to subscribe jointly with /r/seduction which I think is more conducive toward easing newbies into game.

Stay subscribed to RP too, but you're right that if you only read the stuff on here, you'll get pretty bitter quick and not want to waste your time.

Like, if you can't even comfortably talk to women (as I did early on), /r/seduction will probably do more for you at that stage in the journey. Just keep the RP theory in the back of your head.

[–]TroubleWithTheCurve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Second this.

[–]mithridates1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really great advice. I've noticed that this is a good approach.

[–]lookingatyourcock 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Why is fucking necessary? I don't hate women, and don't have anything against that life style you refer to, but I personally value other things as better uses of my time. Although I suppose I already follow your rule and spend no more than maybe an hour here once a week. To me it is interesting from an analytical perspective, rather than personal.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Why is fucking necessary?

Because it will make you more bitter and hateful towards women and you can't really discuss "sexual strategy", not that red pill is all about sex, without having it. Women are easy today and if you are not having them them really this sub will make you less good than it could. I'm aware of MGTOW but I don't understand how a man can function properly without sex.

[–]lookingatyourcock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

With all the fancy masturbators out there now, such as Fleshlight, I find it very easy. That and I am very obsessive about my hobbies, so the time it takes find and hookup with girls just seems like a waste when I could have been doing something better. To me life is about making the world a better place in some small way. Spending all my time for the sake of physical pleasure is not intellectually satisfying at all. Not to mention the fact that the amount of time you spend having sex and actually feeling good, is much muuuuch shorter than the time you spend interacting with her, and planning out your strategy. It seems like the chase is based on a lot of tunnel vision, where you get so focused on the reward, that you don't even realize the vast costs being incurred.

As I said I come here based on analytical interest. My understanding of Red Pill is that it is a philosophy, and these sexual strategies are just a derivitive. However, the strategies are still interesting to me from sociological perspective, because sexual selection has huge implications on human evolution. I do wish that TheRedPill went back to spending a little more time on the philosophy though. It seems this sub has been turning more and more into /r/seduction, and losing contact with its roots.

I find this post to represent TheRedPill well, which puts a lot of the seduction stuff at stage 3/5 towards fully accepting the pill.

[–]siqniz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Luckily working out is pretty routine for me. I started taking salsa lessons, got a Spanish tutor, started the 1 approach a day, going to get back into yoga and no fapping / porn. Its been 45 days so far

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

TLDR: Hit the gym and get a social hobby

[–]__var 3 points4 points  (3 children)

What are some good social hobbies?

[–]mikeTherob 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Drinking, pick-up sports, public service, and also drinking.

[–]FinalEquin0x 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Some great others: learn to play an instrument, become really good at pool, and learn how your car works.

You can spend time with buddies playing music, playing pool, and helping them fix their cars.

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If you're not improving, you're regressing.

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[–]boozemunkee 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm no expert in TRP but I saw that your post has no replies and felt that I should give you my two cents. I think it's good that you have a baseline of staying in shape and having hobbies and acquaintances but maybe you need more than those. It seems as if those are already in your arsenal so why not expand further, try something new and challenging that makes you feel uncomfortable, once you accomplish something that doesn't come easy it should help raise your self esteem and sense of self worth.

I completely understand how the realization that having sex is just a biological need makes it seem somehow hollow or empty but you're focusing on the fact that it's a biological imperative as something negative. Eating is a biological need and yet I'm sure when you see food you don't think ugh I'm only eating this for my biology not because I want to eat it. If sleeping with women gives you no pleasure right now then don't.

The way you talk of finding a partner makes me think you feel very alone try to deepen your friendships, try to connect on other levels than just physically with women and see what it leads to.

[–]Senior Contributordeepthrill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You need to give yourself small challenges you can accomplish to raise your self confidence.

Make a challenge to say hi to a random girl on a certain day. Outcome independence means that your goal is your action ("say hi") rather than the result ("did she reciprocate?").

Every morning give yourself a small challenge to accomplish. It doesn't have to be women either. Maybe do one rep of a heavier weight. Or learn to cook a new healthy dish. Maybe even sleep with a woman "below" your value (slump buster).

The knowledge that you are accomplishing things daily (even if they are "easy") will increase your self esteem and build on itself.

[–]Tsilent_Tsunami 1 point2 points  (0 children)

many times has suicide come to mind

I feel incredibly tired emotionally.

I don't get any feelings or desires to pursue something serious anymore,

I know it's difficult to get an accurate picture from one comment on the internet, but do you have a problem with depression? Those quoted statements are pretty intense, and kind of raise a red flag.

Consider talking to your doctor about these feelings?

[–]Mooshaq 10 points11 points  (1 child)

This is a good post to all the newbies, and a great reminder for those of us (e.g. me) that can get too caught up in reading TRP and forget to go apply it/try it out. Thanks for that!

On a side note:

different examples exhibiting the same principals, similar examples exhibiting different principals, similar examples exhibiting the same principals

You mean principle in this case.

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Got me. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anytime someone stops paying attention to girl who has friendzoned them, stops oneitising girls playing games or dumps someone using them they are improving. Do not let self improvement be rated by the size of your bicep, attitude change is a big improvement.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A good rule of thumb for beginners is that when things aren't making sense, like if you are asking some inane technical / semantic question like "well, if women are attracted to guys who don't have to try for pussy, then aren't I losing if I go over to talk to her? She can see I am trying to get her" you need to get the fuck outside. Go see for yourself - approach 100 women and find the answer yourself.

Gotta remember that reading theory is almost bad for you because it robs you the opportunity to discover it for yourself. If I go out and fuck a girl, and later I find out she strings along like 2 dudes who buy her dinners, I am going to internalize the concept of "alpha fucks beta bucks" way faster and way deeper than if I read 100 pages on it. It's kind of like guys who have figured out exactly what their body responds to by going to the gym and beating up their body, and measuring responses to various stimuli. If this guy had found himself 1000 pages of bodybuilding theory early in his life, that may actually have been negative, as he would have just done the cookie cutter program and never gained self-knowledge about what works for him.

Likewise, there is something amazing about learning how to seduce women without knowing SHIT about game. Older bros who did this before game even existed know what I'm talking about - the knowledge that you made it all click together by your own intellect and your own navigation is an amazing feeling. Seriously, go experience things before you have read the theory and you will see - you will seriously become more smooth, skilled at improvising gold shit out of thin air, and you will truly value your results. Not only that, you will understand the relationship between action and effect way better, because you're results aren't jaded by what the internet said "should" be happening.

[–]esco_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

maybe so, but you will learn a lot slower

[–]abrah1jk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was some what a quote from "Fight Club"! Loved it though

[–]shady_dre 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Swallowed the pill today.

I like what I see in this post. In all honesty, I don't have much trouble getting women. I'm currently a University student, and the sex flows here as much as you would expect from a college campus. What's rather unusual is that when I entered the school, I noticed all of the entitlement and beta attitudes of the majority of my peers. The majority seems to resent the idea of hard work, and expect a career and living wage to be handed to them on a platter because they have a diploma. Attending University has created more of a self-reliant mentality within me than I ever had before. I want to be better in life than the complaining student body around me.

I was skeptical about this sub-reddit when I first heard about it, but some reading and this post reinforced the notion that this is more about self-improvement than shaming of others. Other people have taken on a secondary role to me, and if others share my desire to succeed and be the best they can be, then I will associate with them. If not, I cast them off; I won't be dragged down. I view this as less of an egotistical issue but rather an urge to become the greatest man I can be.

I look forward to the journey.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

In all honesty, I don't have much trouble getting women. I'm currently a University student, and the sex flows here as much as you would expect from a college campus.

This sub is for you. It is not only about getting woman but also getting the right woman. Don't let some rape alegation destroy your college career. Learn to stay away from crazies.

Self improvment is the name of the game.

[–]run_naked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure how I ended up in this part of reddit. But I'm a woman and can just say, There are some self diluted women out there. I once beat the shit out of a woman because she claimed rape. Rape is a serious issue and alot of women are just stupid.

[–]elalmadelafiesta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recently discovered Reddit and particularly this subreddit. The knowledge shared here is mindblowing... So I'll keep in mind what you're saying in order to approach efficiently each post.

[–]DistanceSkater 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree, I adopted a very strong red pill ideology without even know what The Red Pill is.

In summer 2011 I got a job bartender. I was on my way to getting into great shape, had been working out, I was in a LTR and then I was cast off into the service industry. Within a few months I was absolutely blown away watching the bar patrons interact with each other, as well as my coworkers. I broke up with my LT GF and I started sleeping with coworkers and bar patrons on the reg.

Looking back I think I was still fairly blue pill and was just coasting on my good looks (no e brag) but after 1 years, summer 2012 I became an extreme red piller... I never watched or listened to any "game" or RP theory's I just learned them from trial and error with women and witnessing what they do and how they act.

In summer early summer of 2012 I got a second job bartending at a place with an All Female staff. It was one of the most eye opening experiences of my life, I was suddenly part of a inner circle of a bunch of hot girls and I listened to their gossip every day. I listened to them complain about their weak, BP boyfriends and how they liked when guys were hard to change (I.E make them submit) I even slept with a few of those girls from that job.

I've been a long time /b/tard (since 05) and one day I was discussing women with a friend and he mention RP and I had no idea what he was talking about, he told me about this sub and I made my claim that I hate the reddit community because of how beta the men are, he laughed and said I would fit in well here...So yea...I disagree with OP, GO GET A JOB AS A BARTENDER and you will become a master RP'er, and make some good money while you're at it.

[–]dominotw 3 points4 points  (18 children)

I am personally not a big fan of pushing yourself though unpleasant things to acheive goals of my genes ( successful reproduction) . I am not a puppet whose strings are being pulled by nature whose sole goal successful reproduction and propagation of my genes. My personal philosophy is to find something that I truly enjoy and pursue that for the sole reason of getting pleasure from. Dont go to the gym and lift weights if its not enjoyable. There are a million things that are truly enjoyable and would improve both you brain and body( yoga for example). Dont make your life a pilgrimage whose sole purpose is to reach a goal.

[–]jtz2 14 points14 points [recovered]

Anyone who has ever accomplished great things in this world has done so in spite of the adversity and hardships that come along with it.

Sure we can all say 'screw it' and do 'easy' things your whole life, but wouldn't you rather look back at your time on this Earth and say that you've done all you can do in it? That starts by self improvement and achieving goals. Just my perspective on it.

[–]dr_bloodmoney 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Have you ever thought that if you pushed yourself, you might actually come to love what you were resisting? Or discovered an inner strength that you didn't know you had? I used to hate running. Now I've run 35 miles in one go. I'm going to try for a 50 miler this fall. Taking the easy way is shit advice.

[–]dominotw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not sure I've ever said that people should take the easy way.

[–]jorgander 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. I hit the gym somewhat regularly and try to stay generally healthy, but for the most part I focus on working out my brain more than my body. This means learning new languages, exposing myself to different cultures and worldviews, and putting myself in 'new' situations on a regular basis (new environments, etc.). Not only does it keep me interesting to people - they find out about this if they take the time to get to know me; if not they are not worth my time - but it keeps my experiences interesting to myself. Like everything else, we should maintain a healthy amount of selfishness in what we do.

Anyway, good post. TRP has to be reminded regularly that success isn't only sexual.

[–]Sturmgeist781 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nothing good comes easily.

[–]hitchhikerpirate 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Self-improvement is key to the theory here. You improve by pushing yourself, every time you do something you push a little harder. If you have no goal in mind, what are you pushing yourself towards?

I agree that life should not be a pilgrimage with the sole purpose of reaching a goal, but a goal is an aiming point.

Should a college student abandon their goal of attaining a specific degree because they find some of their classes challenging and they do not enjoy them?

Perhaps I'm just not understanding your point here...

[–]dominotw 9 points10 points  (6 children)

I guess, I am just saying that we as culture are brainwashed into a cult of 'self-improvement'. There are billion dollar industries built around selling 'self-improvement' ( fashion industry, fitness industry, education industry and a million others), and yet, and yet most of self improvement we are sold is a distant dream for the most of us. Why? . Why do we live in a constant conflict both within ourselves ( eg: hating ourselves for skipping gym 2 days in a row) and conflict with the outer world ( me against the wold mentality that is so common here in this sub). Do you want to live your life in this constant conflict ?

Again, I am not saying self-improvement is bad just but it should be a 'side-effect' of doing things we love to do not the final goal. Our goal should be finding and learning to enjoy things. Learning physics because we enjoy learning how the universe is structured and is predictable. Learning mathematics because we find patterns in nature amazing.

If we read biographies of truly great people( Richard Feynman[1], Albert Einstein[2], or even Hitler), we can see that their greatness was not a result of 'self-improvement' but true passion and genuine curiosity.

I truly believe that we are all capable of achieving greatness but only if unbrainwash ourselves from this constant mantra of 'self-impovement'

  1. Richard Feynman - The Pleasure Of Finding Things Out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgaw9qe7DEE
  2. The Secret to Learning Anything: Albert Einstein’s Advice to His Son http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2013/06/14/einstein-letter-to-son/

[–]hitchhikerpirate 0 points1 point  (4 children)

" I am not saying self-improvement is bad just but it should be a 'side-effect' of doing things we love to do not the final goal. Our goal should be finding and learning to enjoy things. Learning physics because we enjoy learning how the universe is structured and is predictable. Learning mathematics because we find patterns in nature amazing."

I completely agree with this. I don't think self-improvement is a goal at all, however. It's a journey. Not to mention, no matter what one is doing, there are going to be days where it totally sucks. One is going to have a week or a month or a year that they do not enjoy. If you don't push yourself to become better at what you're doing, even if it's hard, how will you accomplish anything worthwhile?

Also, I do think Hitler is a very bad example. He had a very clear goal in mind, and when it didn't work out for him he killed himself. He was not a "truly great person", he was a coward.

[–]Sub8male 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hitler was apparently omega as fuck during his ww1 years. It's pretty impressive to go from aloof outcast, to ruling a country. Always wondered how he made such a mental transformation.

[–]hitchhikerpirate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From wikipedia: "Hitler described the war as "the greatest of all experiences", and was praised by his commanding officers for his bravery.[68] His wartime experience reinforced his German patriotism and he was shocked by Germany's capitulation in November 1918.[69] He was embittered by the collapse of the war effort, and his ideology began to take shape."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Was it cowardice to kill himself considering what the alternative was? I don't think so.

[–]hitchhikerpirate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may not think so, but I do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree entirely. Mark Manson wrote a post about it. I do think that self improvement puts folks into the mindset of taking control of their lives. But I can see how it can become a endless crutch and excuse for people to avoid approaching women and setting dumb boundaries for themselves as to when they can feel good about themselves.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Isn't any mechanism that rewards you with pleasure a product of your genes, which exist because they aided reproduction in some way? Ultimately all your genes are goal-oriented towards reproduction.

[–]dominotw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes. Good point. As Albert Camus famously said, the one truly serious philosophical problem is to commit suicide or not. :)

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[–]justthrowmeout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Starting to sound like a cult.

[–]Lok_Die 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's such a strangeness to be one people look upon for guidance. Once I would have found it stressful, as I am by nature very introverted. However, as I have grown, and allowed myself to believe in what I truly am, thanks to rp theory removing my guilt.

I am what I am now, I cannot imagine what I was anymore.

[–]TheRabid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find this very uplifting. Lately, I found that the sexual aspects of it are quite boring. I thought I was the strange one as I started to feel that getting a one night or a few nights stand to be quite easy and tiresome after awhile.

Instead, I have been focusing on other aspects (ie the self improvement angle) to be the strongest and "bestest" version of myself that I can be.

[–]lookiamapollo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I came?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Relinquish all fears that impede gaining high social value. Fear is not an option for any of us; we are above the flight or fight response, we don't dismiss it, we are propelled by it. Redpillers use their COMPETENCE to reinforce their confidence, so there is no need for such fears...fear of speaking, fear of crowds or fear of judgment. Obtaining your highest value is the ultimate goal.

[–]ModMachiavellianRed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Preach brother!

[–]infernalsatan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Isn't Red Pill Theory originated from self improvement?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From my understanding it is that's what attracted me the most to this forum.

Just talking about Redpill theory without having milestones... it's as good as being on a treadmill that gets you nowhere.

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[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, it's just like the no fap movment, without going to talk to girls.

[–]logi_thebear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too bad all the people hating on TRP seem to ignore the posts like this.

[–]BlindNoble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"You fell off the horse? It must be broken.

And a rapist."

[–]Atlas_Above 1 points1 points [recovered]

Never understood the bias against wacking off here. Had to commandeer this account to make this post as well.

Lifting, gaming, spinning plates, climbing corporate ladder. Shit can get tense every once in a while. Can't tell anyone about it, this is your shit to deal with. Plop down on the golden throne, find some raunchy ass shit and relax a little. Make some time for yourself. No need to chew bubblegum and kick ass on the shitter.

[–]1PaulRivers10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's something from "game" - the idea is that if you're trying to get laid, it's supposedly advantageous. It provides more emotional motivation to have sex with a girl (rather than giving up that time because it's to hard). It also (in theory) causes you to give off a more sexual vibe because you're not relieving all of your own tension all the time - it builds up.

Theoretically it's like not eating for a day, in order to motivate you to want to eat more. To give you more drive to eat, to cause the food to taste better, etc etc.

[–]theratmix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not very good at multitasking... so I'm attempting to get my self improvement on track first priority...

down 8kg in 2 weeks of pushing hard (about 1/3 to my goal of losing 29kg in 6 months)...

booking the holidays I want, improving my vocab and social skills....

not bothering to argue when the woman (women) in my life tries to start things.

I still slip... but less each week that passes!

[–]luxury_banana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, "TRP" as it were is akin to skeptics in atheism. It's not necessarily tied to self-improvement.

It's about rejecting the aphoristic garbage that most people "know" about relationships between the sexes unless there is clear and convincing evidence. It's about slaughtering the sacred cows of conventional "wisdom" related to these subjects.

What you do with the knowledge is entirely up to you. If what you want out of life is to succeed in the sexual marketplace, then yes, self-improvement is part of what you must do. This is because if you watch what women do rather than what they say, you will notice something very profound, as with politicians: These are two very different things. If all you want to do with it is avoid being used and abused or spot big "red flags," then you don't need to push yourself to the point of vomiting in the gym.

[–]greycloud24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

go to work, get married, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch TV, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: i am free.

what is self improvement? is it measured by some guy prescribing you behavior? is it learning how to chase women better? is it making more money and being "alpha"? if so, just keep on telling yourself that you took the red pill. don't question the walls of your prison, don't question the rules that form the walls, the social structure that allows the rules. because you can escape the matrix, if you just win over the women there, if you just keep playing by those rules. keep telling yourself that you didn't take the blue pill, that you are free to make your own decisions and that other people aren't making them for you.

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But stop masturbating, you're depriving your mind and body of vital energy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think cutting out porn would be productive though. Don't need porn to mastrabate.

If you wanna see some 8-10/10 ass and titties, go find some.

[–]DCLdit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree.

I started with learning Game. Sometimes I could not figure out why some of it would work and some of it did not.

Discovering the red pill helped me understand Game. Then I started to take fitness and eating healthy seriously. This is all under the spectrum of self improvement.

Anyways, thanks for sharing this. -dcl

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I avoid being a beta being taken advantage of by some woman who has hit the wall and is done riding the cock carousel? If the answer to that is that by simple awareness I can avoid that situation, then I'd hardly call it useless.

[–]trpalternate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reminder. Time to get my ass back to the gym. Today.

[–]Theophagist -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

What prompted this repetition of the obvious? Are you trying to convince yourself of something?

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[–]VirgoRooster 1 points1 points [recovered]

He's not saying we can't discuss that stuff here. He's telling you to practice what you preach (or read and agree with).

[–]qemist -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

But masturbation is enjoyable.

[–]itsmsbetty -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

The Red Pill doesn't take a lot of reading. The best way to internalize is through practice. Failing a thousand times to get 10 victories. Not reading about theory and people discussing theory

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I think you're conflating Red Pill and pick-up.

For Red Pill theory, you can figure out a lot on your own; a lot of the older men on the board figured out maybe 75% on their own. Thing is, that last 25% is gonna sting.

Take the big tough natural alpha who gets caught up in some shit like, "nah, dude, I've fucked tons of girls but this time is different. I'm in love, dude..."

The rabbit hole goes as deep as you want it to, but pretending it's a shallow sound byte of information to understand and get on with your day in just a few minutes is not seeing how pervasive feminism and the feminist imperative has been throughout westernized culture in the last fifty years.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 2 points3 points  (1 child)

"last 25% is gonna sting."

For me it was the last 5-10%. I had read "Sperm Wars" back in '96 learned some pickup through the rest of the '90s and tho't I knew it all. Didn't get hypergamy and alpha traits/behaviors. When I started reading therationalmale.com, the scales fell from my eyes. I saw how I totally fucked my marriage some 27 years ago, how I lost girl after girl, how my friends totally fucked up, the whole nine yards. Since I swallowed TRP over this past Xmas break I've been out a couple of times. It totally. Blows. My. Mind. It really is like The Matrix. I can watch her hamster spin out the fitness (shit) tests as she IOIs me.

Every time I interact with people, I observe confirmation or TRP theory. Mind boggling.

[–]boozemunkee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please forgive my ignorance but what type of shit tests have you been encountering on dates? I seem to pick up on IOIs but the shit test stuff is my blind spot.