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Are all women this stupid? (self.askTRP)

submitted by dazlgwade

I’m in high school, a senior to be exact. I overheard these girls in front of me talking about how good it would be to have a sugar daddy. That’s not the part I’m talking about. One of them told a story about some girl who actually had one. Says the guy bought her all types of shit, but it was a no contact type of relationship, as in no touching. But when the guy asked for a kiss, she cut all ties and stopped talking to him. Then they all go “yeah, she has good morals.” If she has morals, she wouldn’t have milked the dude for all his bread in the first place. Wtf. I’m not new when it comes to dealing with girls but I’ve just started realizing all of the dumb shit they say and do since I started reading TRP. Thoughts?

Edit: I’m talking about the girls that said she had morals, not the girl with the sugar daddy.


[–]abdada 175 points176 points  (48 children)

I know at least 3 guys who are sugar daddy types and I'll tell you point blank that in no cases were any women "no contact" but bragged to friends that they were -- and the reason the women lost the sugar daddy is he found someone more flexible like an acrobat and nuked the one who started to get demanding.

Basically, women lie to protect their reputations. This gal was banging away and when she got boring, she got nuked and came up with "reasoning" that would make sense.

[–]econquest 5 points6 points  (44 children)

why do you believe those 3 guys? (your description goes against red pill theory since beta bux, alpha fux.)

[–]abdada 52 points53 points  (39 children)

why do you believe those 3 guys?

One is relatively famous (not like TV celebrity famous) and has done the sugar daddy thing for maybe 15 years. He's pretty open about it -- you pay a hooker to leave, not to have sex.

One is a guy I travel with pretty regularly and he always brings his coed-of-the-month club sugar baby and I know they're banging. He laughs about how they resort to all sorts of rationalizing about it but SBs are all temporary in nature. For every John there are 10 hookers, so it's a competitive market.

The last guy is an ex-roommate, same issue -- we're not really that close but I know he's banging these skanks who come up with ways to validate it like "I need money for tuition" which really means expensive purses and shoes.

Being a sugar daddy is not beta. It's not alpha. It's neither. Red Pill is amoral.

[–]Ricklogical 1 points1 points [recovered]

pay a hooker to leave.

glad I dropped in to work for a moment. Great big smile from me boss.

[–]abdada 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I paid my wife to leave, it was called a divorce settlement.

[–]Slipstream17X 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Isn’t it beta, though? Sugar daddies are paying for sex. Alphas wouldn’t need to.

[–]abdada 30 points31 points  (7 children)

Sugar daddies aren't paying for sex. They're paying for the girl to leave. It's not about alpha/beta. It's about the man having a plan, a path, a goal, and not wanting to take anyone else's needs into the decision.

I've never paid a hooker myself. I've never really considered it because I tend to prefer LTRs+plates. But the guys I know who do pay for hookers, or who have sugar babies, they're guys who own their shit 100% and don't want to deal with a girlfriend. Or a plate. It's a good quid pro quo with no need to define anything.

There's a big difference between two guys who use hookers. One uses hookers out of desperation in his lonely life, something to temporarily distract him from the video games and doritos. Another guy lives a full life with tons of friends but the last thing he wants is some woman to think she has dibs on his life and future. So he pays as a method to enhance what he's doing.

The one guy I travel with, his coed hookers are intensely conservative overall. They're not blonde beach bubble bimbos -- many of them are in law school, one of his past sugar babies is a famousish journalist 10 years later. They're pretty edging on beautiful. They're fun because the relationship focuses strictly on fun. When the drama or sads comes in, they're nuked.

The sex is secondary, really. Yeah, they have sex, but I'd bet they'd have sex with him without the money, but at that point the "demands" and "drama" comes into play.

My one colleague in Manhattan is in his 60s, he's been a multimillionaire since his 20s (financial world) and he openly admits he has never once in his life NOT paid for sex. He's tall, handsome, strong, popular, rich...but he's never had sex if there wasn't money changing hands. Ever. And he swears he has no interest in relationship sex.

One of my business partners from back in the day raised all her capital from being a sugar baby in college at a famous conservative college. She was 25 when we started a business together and she was smart, gorgeous, funny -- and she raised over $600,000 over 7 years of college by screwing dudes with money and she said they were all great and amazing but she didn't deny she was a hooker, they just called it sugar baby to sound less skanky. She still owns that business today (bought me out) and is a pretty good pal and she doesn't regret what she did to make bank. But her friends thought she was celibate, lololol.

[–]TonytheNetworker 8 points9 points  (6 children)

If the man has a red pill mindset but just doesn't want to take the extra steps to regularly game women that's not necessarily bad but he might have beta tendencies. My thoughts more align with dazlgwade and TheShearerComplex where if you are truly alpha you wouldn't have to pay for sex because you have options. Hell, in my experience, when your Alpha, girls will make the silliest excuses to come and get fucked by you. I've had girls say "I left my lipstick behind your bed" or "Can I borrow that book you mentioned last week?"

[–]abdada 13 points14 points  (5 children)

f the man has a red pill mindset but just doesn't want to take the extra steps to regularly game women that's not necessarily bad but he might have beta tendencies.

No, it has nothing to do with alpha or beta. It has to do with how much he values himself and his time and how he spends his energy and what he allows in his life. Paying for something is neither alpha nor beta. Getting shit for "free" meaning no money changes hands is neither alpha nor beta -- and free (no financial cost) is not truly free, if there are entanglements.

Hell, in my experience, when your Alpha, girls will make the silliest excuses to come and get fucked by you. I've had girls say "I left my lipstick behind your bed" or "Can I borrow that book you mentioned last week?"

It's sad that TRP has come to this.

If a gal said that to me today, I would kick my own ass for wasting time on a conversation I have absolutely ZERO desire to have. FFS, I can be doing stuff I want to be doing, not melting my brain from monotonous conversations I would never want again my life.

Thank god for my current girlfriend and my last two girlfriends for being mutes (not physically, just mentally). They never talked, and it was fucking amazing. I never have to put up with nonsense. But if I didn't have these types in my life, I would seriously consider sugar daddying so I didn't have to put up with the monotony.

How the fsck do guys have time to put up with that crap, just for sex? It's a waste of time once you get to a certain point in life where you don't need to live by social standards to get anything you want. The last thing I will put up with is some woman lying to herself and to me just to get in my bed so she can validate herself, lol.

Sure, worthless alphas will have women say that at the club or whatever. What a waste of time, going to the club to meet women. Or getting girls on tinder to rationalize her behavior to herself and others.

No, thanks. My time is too valuable.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just wanna say, you are a great inspiration for guys like me. I don't align with everything you say or do... But it's damn close to what I'm aiming for.

Thanks

[–]jm51 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Thank god for my current girlfriend and my last two girlfriends for being mutes

My last 2 shackjobs were mutes. Sheer bliss. We could spend an evening listening to music with hardly a word spoken.

As said earlier, people with spare cash will use some of it to avoid the type of problems that poorer people see as a fact of life. eg. how much is a gram of weed in NYC? If you're on the poor side of life, it can cost you your car, your job and perhaps even your liberty. If you're rich enough to pay a lot more than the poor stoners can afford, money is all it costs you.

[–]abdada 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Yeah it's so weird that guys focus on what it costs in dollar amounts. "I would never pay $1000 for a hot dog!" Yeah, what if I asked if you would pay 1/1000th of your net worth for a hot dog? What's that worth now? Most guys here ARE paying 1/1000th of their net worth for a fucking hot dog, but they're bitching about a guy who considers sex to be less useful than a great hot dog, and we're not talking about them spending 1/1000th of their net worth on sex, lol.

As for mute girls, it's the closest you can get to a unicorn I think. To me, it's total bliss, too. My girlfriend never talks and it's amazing to me. I just can't get enough of not talking with her.

[–]hivemond 1 points1 points [recovered]

Abdaba, it's interesting to read of all these guys (especially the 60-something who openly always pays) who are not only treating women as "paid entertainment" but with the intention of never letting females have any control in their lives in any way. That's certainly disrupting in our marriage-centric society.

But do any of these guys ever talk about having kids? I mean, maybe women can be problematic, but a lot of very RP guys (over in MRP) can say that raising your own children can enhance your life greatly - but it requires being joined in partnership with a woman - which these guys don't want to do. So do they just put having kids out of the picture?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (26 children)

Alpha/beta isn’t about if something is moral or not. It’s definitely beta.

[–]abdada 13 points14 points  (25 children)

No, it isn't beta. You're confused about what alpha and beta means.

Giving money to a woman up front in hopes of getting sex = beta. It means you put her needs first.

Getting sex from a woman and then paying her to leave = can be alpha because your needs are met up front.

The act of paying for sex is neither beta nor alpha.

[–]TheShearerComplex 4 points5 points  (10 children)

But they are not paying them to leave though.... would the girl be there / having sex if she wasn’t getting paid? Secondly would the guy pay her to sit around and chat?

The payment is quite clearly for sex.

FYI most alphas would have 6/7 plates so wouldn’t need to pay for sex to get their needs met.

[–]abdada 4 points5 points  (9 children)

The payment is quite clearly for sex.

You're conflating things, unfortunately. it's common with worthless guys -- and by worthless I mean "has no net worth". If your net worth is $0 or less, you can't comprehend what money is.

Money is just time saved. It's what defines money. We make money because we save other people time. We spend money in order to save time. If you have no net worth, you've saved no one anything, so you're a time waster.

Naturally, worthless people can't envision what defines money. All they can think of is "money is valuable".

To those who have saved others a lot of time, they have money themselves. The money isn't valuable when you have a lot of it -- more than you'd ever need in any short period of time. So you have a choice now: you can do things yourself "DIY" style to not have to redeem that money ("time saved") or you can redeem some of your time saved ("money") so you don't have to DIY things.

Do you think it's beta to pay a roofing installer to install a roof? Or do you think it's more alpha to replace the roof yourself?

What the payment is for has nothing to do with the mindset of the person paying it. A desperate guy showering a woman with flowers and dinners and concerts and jewelry is likely acting from a beta mindset. Not only is he hoping she will treat him with sex, but he will be pissed if she sleeps with some bikergang loser who didn't even buy her a tiara for her puppy's birthday.

Your mindset comes from being worthless, which isn't a bad thing or shameful, it's normal in a market where 80% of men are worthless and need to build value so they can comprehend what money is.

Until you have money, you will never understand that money is strictly "time, saved". Nothing more, nothing less.

And I'll be honest here: I've felt envy before when my sugar daddy peers don't have to deal with the girlfriends and plates annoying them 24/7. I'm lucky, if I get annoyed I can go out on my boat and not get texts or notifications, but before I had a boat, that fucking phone won't quit.

[–]Dystaxia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've thought of money as simply a means to save time but only in circumstances of extreme wealth, never explicitly like this. I find it harder to keep the abstraction consistent in cases of poverty where it simply means survival but then again, not dying is time preserved too.

Thank you for the food for thought. This might have a dramatic effect on my outlook moving forward.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (13 children)

You just proved my point.

[–]2SirKolbath 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Nine times out of ten when someone pompously states, "You just proved my point!" the person their arguing with actually didn't do anything of the kind, they just have a limited grasp on the concepts and don't have anything else to say.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (6 children)

He said giving money to women upfront in hopes for sex is beta. That’s exactly what sugar daddies do..was it really hat hard for you to understand where he went wrong at? I guess this is that 1 time.

[–]2SirKolbath 4 points5 points  (2 children)

He said giving money to women upfront in hopes for sex is beta. That’s exactly what sugar daddies do..was it really hat hard for you to understand where he went wrong at?

Actually, no, that's not what sugar daddies do, son. Sugar daddies generally offer status and intangible benefits as well as cash and prizes. Most men with the money available to buy expensive presents for their trophy sloots are high status. Since that is something women crave, they gravitate towards them.

Ever hear of band groupies? They're after the status of being seen with and being able to say they fucked the band. Money rarely enters into it.

Furthermore, money in exchange for sex is neither alpha nor beta. Most actions are not alpha or beta. What determines that is the meaning behind those actions.

As mentioned above, a gym rat with a perfect body who is doing it to chase pussy is doing it for beta reasons, even though the act of lifting is "alpha". It may be to a man's benefit to outright say, "Fuck this. It's Saturday, I don't feel like going to a club and gaming some rando, I'm going to fire up Backpage and call a literal whore for one of the oldest transactions."

By the way, capuchin monkeys developed prostitution... And it wasn't the beta males who were paying the females to get ass.

In short, as I said above, Actions are neither alpha nor beta. Actions are neutral. It is motive that is alpha or beta.

To the sidebar with thee, son.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I’m willing to admit I’m wrong. Appreciate it. I’ll go do that.

[–]abdada 4 points5 points  (1 child)

No, sugar daddies don't give women money in hopes they get sex. It doesn't work that way at all.

They get sex from women and sponsor after. If the sex is poor, it's a one and done deal. If there's no sex, there's no sponsorship. If the sex is awesome AND there's no dangling drama or demands, they're invited again.

You're confusing paying for a burger up front and not getting a burger with getting a burger and deciding if you should pay for it or never go to that restaurant again and let the bill hang unpaid.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha.

[–]abdada 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Explain.

[–]Volt52121 1 points1 points [recovered]

This high school kid is too young to get it. Don't waste your time explaining to him.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He just asked me to explain..anyway, please enlighten me since I don’t get it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

See my reply to SirKolbath.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(your description goes against red pill theory since beta bux, alpha fux

Are you asking how prostitution works?

[–]ForeverNandrolone 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I’m using a sugar daddy website. I’m using it to find plates. I’m almost 50 and I want to date 20yos. The sugar babies are pretty much preselected as being interested in older established men. I just tell them upfront I won’t pay. This does ruin it occasionally but I’d say most girls know that taking money makes them a whore. So a lot of them aren’t interested in the money. They are looking for a fun older guy who doesn’t balk at paying for an occasional dinner. Also, I fuck like an animal so once I get them in bed they really don’t care about the money anymore.

There are tons of straight up whores on there too.

I’ve banged three girls on there without paying. One was a one night stand. She was gorgeous, I’m still irritated I couldn’t plate her. Another was very pretty, and I plated her for a month before she fell in love and broke. And the latest one is very hot. She’s looking for a daddy, not a sugar daddy. We’ve only banged once so far so we’ll see how it’s going to play out.

Also, I don’t have enough money to be an actual sugar daddy. I pay my ex an exorbitant amount of money. So yes I still value my money more than sex. If sex was $60 though I would just pay it and not worry. So yes paying for sex isn’t alpha or beta. Paying more than you can afford is beta though 😀

[–]econquest 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This was an interesting description, thank you. could I ask if you're as fit as possible (without being on steroids) or more like a typical 50 year old?

I'm not in that age group or anything but I'm pretty interested in how this worked out for you.

[–]ForeverNandrolone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m on steroids, so yes I’m very fit. Probably high 90th percentile for 50yos. I’m probably in the top 20% of guys any age.

You don’t have to be on steroids to achieve this fitness level but it certainly makes it a lot easier. I think you’d have be at least on TRT to be where I’m at.

I didn’t start lifting until I was over 40. And I work a lot of hours. I was having a hard time getting in shape because of those two factors. Steroids helped me overcome those. If you’ve worked out your whole life, you probably won’t need to resort to steroids to put on mass.

[–]BraindeadIQ 0 points1 point  (2 children)

When you talk about reasoning, are you saying like they’ll even go as far as lying and say Oh i didn’t like that sugar daddy anymore basically flip it like they dropped him when he dropped them?

Because i’ve witnessed girls say that when their boyfriends drop them without a flinch.

[–]abdada 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yep, they pretend like they dropped him.

Women do that with any guy who drops them. Women are more scared to death of being single than of going out with a possible rapist.

It's also why the guy who dumps the women is the guy who gets ex-sex for life, while the guy who waits til she dumps him gets nothing.

Always be the one to walk away.

[–]BraindeadIQ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True often! They want to have the next guy ready and if they don’t have one to branch swing they rarely end the relationship. Sometimes they stay in relationship for months while looking to secure next guy to branch swing, when you dump them by suprise they don’t have anybody because it takes them by suprise.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Sounds like your typical ASD. Tell others X, while doing Y.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yes, high school girls are fairly stupid.

[–]2SirKolbath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, high school girls are fairly extremely stupid.

I had to fix that for you, Wombat. I've only met one girl fresh from high school that I think has any brains at all. (She's in college now, and unlike most college girls, has good sense and a decent work ethic.)

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Then they all go “yeah, she has good morals.” If she has morals, she wouldn’t have milked the dude for all his bread in the first place.

These are girl-morals. She got money "without having to give him anything", so she has good morals.

Girls see sex with betas as a cost. So this girl "got stuff without paying", which they see as "good morals" - partly overlapping with ideas about innocence/virginal/value.

Milking a guy dry doesn't factor into this girl's future value. Being a virgin does.

Mostly they are talking about themselves and trying to make themselves look good. In other words: "Yes, I totally support girls not having sex, so that you believe I am like that too".

when it comes to dealing with girls but I’ve just started realizing all of the dumb shit they say and do since I started reading TRP. Thoughts?

What they say/do/think/feel don't match up in the slightest, so you can ignore what they say and just look at what they do.

They are not communicating truth like we try to - it's all virtue signalling and public relations. 99% of what they say is about themselves and how they want appear.

[–]AshyBoneVR4 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Read the title, Yes.

Read the first sentence of your post, they learn how to at least try to hide their stupidity with age. Most of them either become manipulative and conniving, while the others stay dumb and ditsy and just coast on their looks.

But you witness the hamster and hypergamy in action. A sugar daddy is every chicks fantasy. To know that some dude wants you so bad that he will literally give you anything you want while you have to do nothing in return? That's heaven. If he's old and unattractive then he should be happy just knowing this Goddess is letting him give her stuff and pay her bills. It's not whoreing themselves out because they aren't getting all that stuff, or money for sex. As soon as anything physical is required then that makes the girl a whore and that's just down right shameful. This is the way they see things.

[–]Peter_B_Long 4 points5 points  (1 child)

All women are women. Accept it and live with it.

[–]2SirKolbath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All women are women. Accept it and live with it.

Even Bruce Jenner!

[–]redpilledcuck 3 points4 points  (1 child)

They do have morals. They don't pander to betas. She can use that beta for all he's worth but didn't consort with him. Smart move. She's under no obligation to give up her puss just because some loser bought her dinner.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly! and there's millions of guys like him. can you blame women in this case? or do you blame these fools out there?

[–]saggygooch20 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Have you considered that they were just agreeable people and didn't want to debate the truth of the situation.

[–]McVaghunter 6 points7 points  (3 children)

It doesn't sound stupid to me. She saw an opportunity to get free stuff and she took it. Allowing that low SMV fat fuck to kiss her is like forcing me to have sex with a post wall woman. Just ew.

Females lack morals tho. But lacking morals, or having a false sense of morality is not a sign of stupidity. They love to imagine themselves as innocent saints by justifying, denying or blaming others for their actions. Same goes when she tells you about her "low" n-count... If I remember correctly TRP calls this behavior "plausible deniability" or something like that.

[–]StraightWhiteMaleLOL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

like forcing me to have sex with a post wall woman. Just ew.

Hey, more for me

[–]TonytheNetworker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly my thoughts. Well said.

[–]mrpoopistan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree with the OP's assertion, but he's saying the group's behavior is somehow stupid. The sugar baby is at least being credited with getting the goods.

[–]mgtownigga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

a lot of women don't really know what morality is. Don't expect too much logic in that regard

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Blame these dudes who have put me to the sword. Don't even bother man /r/nofap /r/learnprogramming /r/meditation and do your own thing.

[–]hoj 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is everyone on this sub in highschool?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. But it might seem that way cause we’re younger, so we probably pop up more on asktrp because we have more questions and haven’t learned first hand yet like a lot of you older guys. Who knows.

[–]nofilmynofucky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% of sugarbabies I've met claimed to have similar deals set up with their (invariably wealthy, powerful) daddies

it's complete bullshit. any guy successful enough to consider the daddy lifestyle is by definition going to be one who expects returns on his investment - whores just don't want to admit to being whores

[–]A_Wizard1717 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Sounds like she isnt stupid and the guy buying her shit is dumb as fuck

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m not saying she is, I’m talking about the girls who said that she has morals.

[–]ichivictus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were just talking. Who knows maybe she was judging the shit out of her friend but only said that to be nice.

[–]ProMathlete 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they mean she has good standards, not morals.

Like they know any guy who would do that is low value so when he wanted to escalate, ew no way. Reputation depends on standards. In these girls' minds being a good person is being popular/having a good reputation.

So the cognitive dissonance is substitution of moral behavoir with having good standards.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When work your ass off in the gym to get ripped and hit new PR's or put in the work to get a high earning job that's exactly how women feel when they acquire resources using their looks.

[–]not_shadowbanned_yet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

didn't realize anyone ever claimed this was even a thing.

i suppose they feel they deserve free shit just for showing up.

[–]rn7889 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a nurse. I work with a majority women. I can confirm that yes, the stupidity runs deep.

[–]Zanford 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Stupid? Why is that stupid? It's the gift-giving betas that are stupid.

She's getting free shit for basically zero work. AND it gives her an ego fluff and taps into her prime directive. AND she gets to play the moral highground ("I'm so virtuous and selective for not letting them kiss me").

As the other poster says they may be lying about the no-contact thing. But either way, these girls are not 'stupid' if they are getting what they want on balance. The word you're looking for, perhaps, is craven, or prostitute-esque.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You didn’t read the edit, did you?

[–]Zanford 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah. Way to bury the lead...maybe edit the main body of the post so it's clearer.

[–]chachaChad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, who's dumber here, the female or the sugar daddy?

[–]2chazthundergut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the guy who sounds like a fucking idiot here. All that money, and not even a kiss?

I once had a threesome with two gorgeous latinas, and it only cost me $160.

[–]getrealmate_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not all girls have morals that are this skewed and lie to that extent, although the vast, vast majority of girls lie to protect their reputation.

Woman are not moral, they don't operate on truth as men do.

[–]XT3M3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

girls who claim to have sugar daddies only tell the side of the story that has them " winning " the situation to look like queen bee and to be loved and still look "innocent. "

they will never tell the part of what they had to do to keep him around. cause thst will make them seem less "cool" or in power depending on situation.

examples " I used him for his assets and that sick pig wanted to fuck me so I said nope , bye"

reality she traded sex for money and gifts then he probably got bored and left her.

example.

" I'm using him for his money . I'm just playing him

reality

she is loving everything in this deal and hope she can lock him down which normally doesn't happen. so to try to not look bad or like the loser here they do damage control to make it seems like they are the real player.

I have sisters and watch shit like this play out at least once a week. while some of these guys might be beta, one thing I will say is. they will shut that down . but when it's a guy who they want? they will make sure they keep that cash cow happy as long as they can and hope they can lock him up.

[–]Izakthegreat23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women will use beta males and orbiters for financial standing. Briffaults law in the sidebar will help you see this.

Women are programmed to be more Machiavellian and manipulating like this while having no logical recourse to the fact that she didn't really give anything to this man in return and then chastised him for it I suppose.

[–]Mudpielol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll quote something I heard a stripper say once "I just fuck men for money, I don't suck dick for money, therefore I am not a prostitute"

Stupidity is universal and is found everywhere.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean some men and woman are stupid but I mean you can't generalize but in this case if you are dumb enough to get played well thats your own fault and as for the others being like "she has morals" She is also a moron simple.

[–]mrpoopistan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not certain what is actually to be classified as "stupid" here.

Let's apply basic TRP theory to the motivations in saying she had good morals. The social circle is everything, especially for girls that age. Second, ASD is real, and that goes double when the cast of Mean Girls is convened to assign #slut tags to anyone who steers away from the groupthink.

They're not being stupid. They're surviving within the limitations of their environment. Stupid, for a girl that age in that peer group, would be asserting anything else.

I'd also note that modern American morality is largely about getting paid. Half this country now acts like the lyrics of the worst rap they ever heard were intended to be a living gospel.