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Blue Pill ExampleFemale version of the male beta: a story. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by MadDoc25x2

This is a story that I think sums up why women string along betas, settle down with them, and then leave/abuse them. Twist though; it's from a male perspective.

Story: So you're a decent looking guy, and you get a modest amount of female attention. You have to play some game to get an attractive girl but there's usually an option available to you. There's this woman at work though, she's infatuated with you and also happens to be incredibly needy/overweight. She usually goes out of her way to be nice to you, brings you supplies you might need for your desk, helps you out with last minute deadlines, and is generally nice and encouraging, always trying to give you an ego boost. But you hate her. Something about her just annoys the fuck out of you and you couldn't imagine pumping your cock into her everyday for the rest of your life.

One office party however, she brings some homemade chicken wings in and they are the best god damn wings you've ever had. Now you look at her a little differently. She has something you want, her delicious meals. So you keep her around you, generally ignoring her texts, calls, and sexual advances because you detest her, but you need her favor of you to continue so you can swing by whenever you need to to get some delicious homemade food before you go out and jam your dick down the throat of that tasty new receptionist. You tell the fatty that you aren’t interested in sex because it’s ruined things in the past for you; meanwhile you’re fucking every tight piece of ass that looks at you twice.

The years go by however and you realize that all these nasty sluts will never be able to cook meals for you the way your beta friend will, so you finally relent and enter into a relationship with her, and soon after you’re married with a couple of kids. You have sex with her pretty regularly with her at first, but it’s gross, you simply aren’t attracted to her neediness/body, so you reject her more and more, making her cook the fanciest of 5 course gourmet meals to earn the chance to suck your dick for a while before you give her a few minutes of pitiful missionary right before you pass out. She’s unhappy with the sexual arrangement, but every time she says something you get pissed and she ends up baking you a magical chocolate cake just so that you’ll forgive her.

Then one day she finds out, you’ve been fucking hot tail on the side this entire time. She’s distraught, doesn’t know what to do, but eventually she wants to make things work and cooks you a fucking feast like you’ve never seen before. The good meals just aren’t enough to counteract the lack of sexual satisfaction anymore though. So you peace out with dirty redhead paralegal who has a body that just won’t quit. On your way out however, you tell beta fatty you’re taking the kids, and she’s going to be required to send you all tasty meals anyway because the court has decided that she’s responsible for maintaining your standard of living. Later bitch.

Analogies: Fat bitch is like beta male. Cooking is like beta male’s money/resources. Sex is sex. You are like a modern day woman.

Edit: Lot's of people are making valid points in the comments, like the guy could just go to a restaurant, learn to fucking cook, or use his wife's infatuation with him to convince her to work out/work on her appearance. That's kind of my point, women could also do all sorts of things to improve their money making potential, but instead they pick the easy way out by latching onto some poor sucker. I know it's not a bullet proof analogy, but it get's across some key concepts, and it was ton of fun to write. Thanks for the gold.


[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (23 children)

Yep, both genders can be assholes when paired with someone of significantly lower SMV. Problem is the SMV of women in general is highly overrated due to the collective horniness of men. Supply and demand is at the basis of every human interaction.

[–]robesta 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Problem is the the SMV that women perceive themselves in general is highly overrated due to the collective horniness of men.

FTFY.

This is the big problem. 7s and 8s think because high value males pump and dump them, that they shouldn't settle for less than that high value male. They get their sexual value confused with their LTR value.....then they hit the wall and their sexual value goes down as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, I should have specified I was referring to sexual value not LTR value. Sexual value of any woman is much higher than men in general because of the excess demand from men. LTR value of the two genders is a lot closer.

[–]gloopyboop 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wholly agree. But two things... If that woman is only having those experiences with high value males, she should have figured out how to interact with that clientele if she ever wanted to enter that LTR. Secondly, why are high value males fucking with 7s and 8s to begin with??

[–]robesta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If that woman is only having those experiences with high value males, she should have figured out how to interact with that clientele if she ever wanted to enter that LTR.

Getting pumped and dumped gives you experience at getting pumped and dumped, nothing else. She'll just think that men don't want to commit, when in reality those men don't want to commit to her.

Secondly, why are high value males fucking with 7s and 8s to begin with??

Why not? Pussy is pussy. It's not like 7s and 8s are slumming it.

[–]FaithfulJinn 38 points39 points  (17 children)

Supply and demand is at the basis of every human interaction.

This could not be highlighted enough. You cannot truly compare alpha/beta in male terms over to female terms. Women can get a lot by simply having a vagina. A vagina is a scarce, precious and valued commodity. Vagina is always in the highest of demands and that demand remains inelastic.

The constantly high demand for pussy is at the core of red pill theory.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (13 children)

Finally someone with knowledge of basic economics. Nicely said. I wish more men would invest some time into understanding the supply/demand dynamic so they can see more clearly what is going on. Once you realize that... all the rest follows naturally.

One side effect of many people here failing to grasp the economical realities of the dating scene is that they think it is possible for all of the male population to become alpha and get lots of pussy. If every man improved by the same amount (no matter how great that amount was) absolutely nothing would change of the collective experience of men.

[–]FaithfulJinn 27 points28 points  (8 children)

One side effect of many people here failing to grasp the economical realities of the dating scene is that they think it is possible for all of the male population to become alpha and get lots of pussy.

I wholeheartedly agree. Not to mention by definition of the word "alpha male" all males cannot possibly be alpha males. Alpha males are the top/most desirable males in a society. We can't ALL be alpha. The word would be meaningless if it could apply to the entire male population. Alpha males are the high tier males with access to lots of attractive pussy. Beta males are everyone else fighting for the scraps. That's just the way it is.

What I find more concerning is that people also think that just because they accept red pill philosophy, that they are now alpha. If you're short, ugly, fat, socially inept, broke, or whichever combination of the aforementioned, and you realize the truth of red pill philosophy you are no more alpha than you were before you woke up to the truth. You're still a bottom tier male with little to no access to attractive pussy. Being an alpha male is not a state of mind. It is not something you do it is something you simply are. Now it's possible to hit the gym, get better style, make more money, and do things to improve your looks and social status and go from beta to alpha. But simply being aware of the truth of red pill does not an alpha make.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It certainly makes it easier to function in this world as a man, alpha or not, if you know and understand what is going on via TRP.

[–]Relaxation1 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I don't know. I have seen some fat, ugly, short, and broke ugly guys with hot chicks. Not impossible. It seems like the way they acted and carried themselves really helped. It is rare, but possible. Maybe they are rich and they dress like they are broke.

[–]1PaulRivers10 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If you're short, ugly, fat, socially inept, broke, or whichever combination of the aforementioned, and you realize the truth of red pill philosophy you are no more alpha than you were before you woke up to the truth.

I'm tired of hearing this whining about this stuff, this isn't the truth either. If you're all of these things, yeah, you have a serious problem.

But I watched a medium-height (but shorter than her), ugly, somewhat fat guy in his 40's pick up this girl in her 20's that was only there because my friend (also in his 20's) had invited along. She was hot...not very trustworthy, but definitely hot both visually and emotionally (as in she was fucking passionate).

The guy in his 20's was over 25 and had never even kissed a girl, he went on to sleep with several girls (though I got the feeling the sex wasn't great) until he met his now-girlfriend, who's he been dating for 9 months and the sex was fantastic. He was definitely some (but not all) of those things to begin with.

I'm tired of hearing the self pitying whining. You want compassion for being in a crappy situation? I can honestly say I'm fine with that. You want to try to tell everyone your situation is impossible when it's not? Bull. It can definitely be a pain in the ass, yeah. But alpha is not a mystically property you have to be born with.

[–]Relaxation1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I know man, I don't get how people think you have to be in shape and rich as hell to get women. Yes, a lot of in shape guys and rich guys get hot women. But that doesn't explain the skinny guys and the fat dudes with hot chicks. Confidence and game go a long way with women. Being a good conversationalist goes a long way too. Upvote for you good sir.

[–]1PaulRivers10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, me neither. It's a mystery to me - it's been blatantly apparent to me my whole life that women didn't care nearly as much about looks as men, and while they care about money more than men being rich but being a doormat doesn't get you laid either.

Like I said, if you're all of the above things you have a big problem, but this "you're not good looking and rich so you have no chance with women" idea is just bizarre to me. Frankly, things would make more sense if that was true.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Way to miss the point by a mile. No one said you can't have any flaws or that looks and money are everything. How you beat your competition is up to you. However to use that logic to argue that everyone has the same chance of success or that every guy can become an alpha is simple ignorance.

Stop that fucking hamster. It is making you delusional.

[–]MadDoc25[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that knowing the truth does not make you an alpha male. However, the truth still has power in itself. Roosh wrote that just not exhibiting beta traits greatly increases your ability to get girls. They may be low quailty girls if you're a low quality guy, but you're still doing better than nothing. You are also able to protect yourself from being used.

[–]RobbenQC 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I disagree, the price of pussy is artificially inflated by the sisterhood. Look at the huge debate going on in feminist circles over prostitution at the moment, a woman's dominion over her own body is coming into conflict with the price fixing of sex and causing a bit of a commotion. Pussy isn't a physically scarce resource, it's just regulated by the fucking female Fed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You are seriously overestimating any impact the scheming and plotting of whiny feminists can have. They might manipulate some laws but the overall trends are determined by the result of human desires... manifesting themselves as supply and demand.

The high price of pussy is such a basic universal concept that it isn't even limited to humans. You don't see female lions fighting each other to death just to get access to some male lions. In nearly 100% of life on earth, male is the disposable gender facing much harsher competition for a right to access reproductive success.

[–]RobbenQC 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So you're saying legal and de-stigmatised prostitution wouldn't crash the price of pussy? It's pretty cheap to hire a hooker already, especially compared to the average date, and definitely compared to marriage.

Edit: by the "sisterhood" I mean women as a collective. They artificially keep the price high in their own way, one of them is by slut shaming and opposing prostitution. Women don't like sluts because it cheapens pussy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that makes more sense now. I don't know where you are from but here in Canada prostitution is pretty much legal (supreme court officially made it legal recently actually) and its very easy to do it anonymously online. Yet the price is generally at least 200/hour. So I don't think just legalizing prostitution would solve this issue. Sure if it was destigmatized to the point that every little girl considered it as a career we might see a change but that's unlikely to happen.