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This is going to happen. What is the best approach? Please no suggestions of violence.


[–]magus678 56 points57 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Please no suggestions of violence.

If you actually think this was a possibility you need to read more and post less

[–]bigmfkr 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think this was a joke.

[–]zyk0s 23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

What kind of no? If she says "I'm really tired today, but I promise I'll make it up to you tomorrow", and it's a one time thing, there's no problem. If it's the start of a pattern of excuses and cop-outs, then you can show her the door. If you're married, or the situation makes it difficult for you to actually kick her out, retract emotional and financial support, start focusing on your hobbies and apply dread. But if that happens, it will be a symptom of you not keeping your masculine frame, and her feeling she has the upper hand. Just don't let it get there.

[–]chevychase0904 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If she wants to wait until marriage???

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahhaahaha. I'm sorry man.

[–]neptunesbeard 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

And how old are you?

[–]chevychase0904 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

25 and so is she

[–]Sepean 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The right approach is to overcome LMR if it is a soft no.

On a hard no, walk way, be outcome independent, do something productive instead. Withdraw affection from her; that does no mean "act butthurt" or be angry, it means exactly that and nothing more, withdraw affection.

You should also check your SMV and alphaness. Is your frame solid? Are you ripped? Dressing well? Is your game still good? Are you passing shit tests? Are you applying dread? She can be tired or stressed or whatever, but other than that if you're attractive she'll want to fuck.

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Sepean 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Last Minute Resistance. Sexual Market Value.

They're basic red pill terms.

[–]salandra 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

turn her on

[–]anonymau5 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stick a key in her ignition

[–]Sleazyridr 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It all comes down to being clear about what you want. Is this a girl who has no value other than sex? That'll be the last time you speak to her. Is it a fwb situation and you get along well otherwise? Sure, but if the benefits dry up and you're not getting anything out of the relationship it might be time to say goodbye. Ltr? Everyone gets tired and not in the mood sometimes, as long as the sex still comes fairly regularly your shouldn't have a problem.

As other people have said, make sure your game stays strong. Don't let someone else take advantage of your good nature, and make sure both parties are contributing to the relationship.

[–]jmottram08 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't have sex? Find someone that wants to have sex with you?

I am not sure if this is a real question?

[–]redambience 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Cool. There's the door."

[–]bigmfkr 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Depends on the context really. If she's being disrespectful, e.g. "if we have sex now, I won't have time for my series", then you can't leave it unpunished. Up to nexting.

If it's something really mild, and she acknowledges her lack of desire - well, then just shrug it off. It's no big deal, you got more important shit to do anyway. After some time, you're going to learn to see desire or its lack without asking directly.

[–]the_vagenius 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

After some time, you're going to learn to see desire or its lack without asking directly.

This is what I was going to say. By the time you get her alone, there should be no question, I've never had sex with a woman that wasn't begging for it before I ever laid a hand on her.

But if for some reason you get as far as a bedroom and she stops you and says no, shes probably gaming you, disengage entirely. Dont get mad, just politely show her to the door, tell her you have things to do and you'll call her, then call someone who wants to have sex with you instead.

Grown ass men don't play games.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Walk away and radio silence

[–]lordxela 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

I'm outta here. This subreddit is full of a bunch of horomonal teenagers who think they're men.

[–]square-one 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No it's not. It's full of teenagers who want to be men. Have you looked at the name of the subreddit recently? Don't expect to find men who are already men here.

[–]Sleazyridr 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All men were hormonal teenagers at one point. They can only grow into men with the help of other men.

[–]Sepean 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That video is such bullshit for the sole reason that it assumes that it doesn't depend on you how much they want to drink tea.

Go with the red pill approach: Be such a cocky/funny ripped motherfucker that they'll get all giddy from having the privilege of doing what you say when you tell them to drink the tea.

[–]truchisoft 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no real analogy for sex, if you date someone is because you want to have sex, that is the only difference between a date and a friend.

Maybe an analogy would be if someone invited you to a steak house and then said she didn't eat meat so you both should not eat.

[–]Sleazyridr -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess to extend the analogy, if you go and find the best tea you can and pay attention while you make our so it always comes out just right. Then people will be more likely to want your tea. If they don't want tea, don't take it as a personal attack, just go on with your hobbies. If you invite someone over for tea and then they come and don't drink any, maybe you just don't invite them over again.

[–]kushrollups 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Find another woman

[–]Sepean 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If she's turning sex down for no good reason, the problem is him. Finding another girl won't fix him.

Getting rejected more than once in a blue moon is a sign that you need to improve yourself.

[–]kushrollups 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair point, except finding another girl could fix him. It's rather subjective on which option would help one improve themselves more efficiently. Putting up with that same chick, or finding more women.

[–]tedbradly -5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Depends on what she is to you.

GF: Just be cool with it. Not everyone wants to fuck always. Your GF not wanting to fuck one time, the first time, isn't a big deal at all.

New girl you just started seeing: Just chill with her and get to know her better. Pay attention to whether she's interested at all in you since not fucking might be a sign she's not into you. You'll bang plenty of women on the 2nd night you see them or even 3rd. As long as you aren't giving her everything in between these fun little meetings, you're fine. They're just dates.

Girl you've been banging: If she's just someone you fuck, chill with her for a few moments and then see her out the door, saying some normal shit about it being fun and whatever else. Kiss her goodbye. She's not doing it for you, so give her some space for a bit. See if she comes around. If not, delete her number.

[–]Sketti-Os 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree that it depends on what "she" is to OP. I disagree with your options though.

If it's a girlfriend, and it's a rare occurrence, yeah, let it go.

If it starts becoming a pattern, next time she rejects you, show her you've got other means to be happy. Grab your coat and walk out pleasantly. If she asks where, just say 'out'. Go grab a beer with a friend, go to the gym, whatever. She'll text you, call you, just ignore it. Make her wonder, but don't cheat. Shit's not cool.

If she isn't, why is she there? There should be an explicit understanding that she's getting the D when she agrees to come over. If she changes her mind, show her out. You don't have to be polite, you can be, and probably should if you don't want to burn that bridge, but she should realize that she's wasting your valuable time by withholding.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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