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I hate this newfound idea that women cannot be trusted and I have to always be watching my back or else the girl that I am in said relationship with will cheat on me. I love my mom, she does everything for me, and I think more people should nurture each other and be fair to each other. Yeah yeah yeah, that's not the way the world is. But I still feel as if it's what the world should be going for. And I believe that the world is going for that. Over history we are effectively going more and more towards that. Hey, we don't have feudalism anymore! No more killing doctors just because they had one patient die on them! We're just not at a perfect place in society right now, we've still got problems with our civilization.

I feel like the best way to act is the way that you feel like acting. For the most part, I feel like acting like a good person. I don't want to take things away from other people, I don't want to make people feel like shit. You may try and convince me that "I have to do these things". You will not be able to. But I also want to be successful with women. And not everyone who is successful with women is an asshole, everyone knows that. I just feel like I won't be able to fully trust any woman, I'll never be able to truly fall in love, I'll never be able to actually hold real feelings around a girl. I'll have to pretend to be someone I'm not.


[–]NotExactlyChad points points [recovered] | Copy Link

A lot of my distrust for women comes from personal experience. I have been fucked over so many times by women whether in a romantic relationship or otherwise.

Even my mother divorced my father and made him pay child support then raised me to distrust him and think he was never there for me.

My mother hates feminism, yet she divorce raped my father and essentially raised me to hate him. How can I ever trust a woman after that kind of betrayal?

A recent Red Pill friend of mine said to me after a long, heated argument about female behavior, "dude you're a misogynist, whatever woman hurt you, just let it go."

He was right, it took me a while to realize that, but he was right. I have been hurt by women and even after "taking the Red Pill" I am going through the anger phase. It doesn't last forever, but one needs to recognize his own faults if he is to ever overcome them.

[–]Myagooshki4004[S] -2 points-1 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

When parents get divorced, both are still supposed to pay child support, that's just how that works. I've been in a similar situation as you with that and while my mom currently doesn't need him to help support me, I still don't agree with a lot of the things that he did in the past-not paying for proper child support amounts being one of them-and I have to side with my mom on most of those issues between her and him. My dad was a terrible father figure in my life and I have deep seated issues primarily with men, not women, for the most part. It just so happens that when women get nasty, they act like men. At least that's how I see it. So I basically hate everybody.

[–]NotExactlyChad points points [recovered] | Copy Link

You must be young as fuck and no that's not how custody battles or child support works. Not at all.

I'm almost thirty, I'm not a teenager. Secondly, don't assume just because your father was terrible that all dads who get booted from the home are terrible or even deserving of that treatment.

50% divorce rate (CDC) 70% of divorces initiated by women (CDC) 63% of people paying child support are men (Census.gov)

It sounds to me like you need to educate yourself in regards to how divorce court and custody agreements work in the US.

[–]ohms_law17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women are people, and most people are not genuine, honest, or trustworthy.

That's just life.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most people don't have the legal privileges women enjoy.

[–]rosemaker6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you have a point. Yes, most women aren't genuine, honest, or trustworthy - but the point is to find one that is.

The problem is that many men (also those on these kinds of subreddits) aren't authentic either and then they complain that women can't be trusted.

I would be as authentic, open and honest as possible and then the dishonest women will automatically run away.

[–]woofa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. This. I've found that being forthcoming with my intentions will help weed out the bad ones.

[–]Avskygod03 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can trust them, but always be prepared for them to fuck up

Like kids, i guess

[–]malignantbacon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whether it's true or not that women can't be trusted, you have to come to terms with your feeling about the matter.

I don't really enjoy the cosmic pressure that pessimism about relationships brings into my life, so I don't prioritize friendships (platonic or otherwise) with people who I can't count on. But that might not be the best way for YOU to handle the situation. Hope this helps.

[–]ChuckFreeman1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't be a fool.... they cannot be trusted. Compare to men, they are master in the art of deception, that what they do best, it's part of their primary survival mechanism, it's coded in their DNA. That's the only area where you cannot outsmart them, just don't trust.

[–]Myagooshki4004[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah, this page sucks for advice on women. I know a guy who's in a good long term relationship with a lot better advice than what I get here. Thanks for the input but you guys are hella jaded!

[–]OptimusFried 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Brad Pitt can't even trust a women. You're fucked.

[–]Myagooshki4004[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brad Pitt is not the most intelligent guy out there.

[–]crosenblum1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that a balanced cautious but optimistic approach to every relationship is doable.

If you've had negative relationships, your defense mechanism tries to avoid all future similar relationships, and unfortunately that defense mechanism is incredibly unhealthy for you.

This doesn't mean you ignore the signs, but you also give people enough rope to either prove they are good or not.

Just because your a woman or man does not prove/disprove your trustworthiness.

Depends on the person, their words and their actions.

This trust issue is more about your failings than anything else.

If you want to earn the good people's cherishment and respect, then you need to focus on being somewhat open to that.

If you close everyone out, all you'll do is live a very lonely and empty life.

So seek the middle ground, be suspsicious and cautious, but give people some rope to show their characater.

[–]Haufniensis points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Do whatever you want, just don't cry when you inevitably get fucked over.

[–]Myagooshki4004[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Inevitably, eh? I've been watching Dan Bacon as of a few minutes after posting this, looks like I more or less know what I'm talking about I just have to get better with asexual tension.

[–]Haufniensis points points [recovered] | Copy Link

You do your thing, bro. Also, I doubt you meant "asexual".

[–]Myagooshki4004[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol yes they was autocorrect it was supposed to be "sexual"

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