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MetaEquality Is a Bitch, Ain't It? - Army and Marine Corps Say It's Time Women Were Eligible for the Draft (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Sdom1

As a conservative/Libertarian type, one thing that makes my fucking day is to see leftists suffer the unintended consequences of their bullshit policies. Exhibit A for today: Women have been claiming for so long that they're equal to men in every way that people are starting to believe them. They celebrated winning the right to go into combat without really thinking through what that means. Par for the course for leftists. Now they're freaking out because the military has said, "Great, so now that you're the equal of a man, you get to be eligible for the draft!"

What's especially great about this is that feminists are exposing themselves with their reactions. Many are blowing the whistle on themselves, saying "Wait, feminism isn't about equality." This is news to most everybody but us.

Also, it shoves their face into an uncomfortable fact - rights and privileges come with obligations attached. They've never understood this, but honestly, I think that this is our way out. They have to be made to realize this. Once they do, 99% of them will want to be housewives.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/02/02/army-and-marine-corps-chiefs-its-time-for-women-to-register-for-the-draft/


[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 186 points187 points  (32 children)

Prediction 1: Mothers and mothers-to-be will be exempt.

Prediction 2: Women will mysteriously get pregnant at the first sign of war.

[–]Sdom1[S] 92 points93 points  (12 children)

That already happens when women are slated to go on deployment, so you're right.

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    [–]shitmoths 26 points27 points  (7 children)

    If I get drunk and fall asleep in the sun, resulting in a sunburn that requires medical attention, they could absolutely send me to non-judicial punishment, take away my pay, rank, and give me extra duty. For destruction of government property... because as a man in the military I am government property. Women are not property of any man, so they cannot be held accountable as property. Women in the military was a terrible idea, and they will never be able to crack down on them for pregnancy when they are trying to keep calm all of the false rape and sexual assault cases coming through every day. If they were to say no pregnancy the women would do it anyways. Then when it came time for a punishment or to be let out of the contract, it would be spun as "WOMEN PUNISHED FOR CREATING LIFE." Or "WOMEN THROWN OUT IN THE STREETS FOR WANTING A FAMILY" Witch hunts on capital hill would be immediate. They never should have let them in, and now unless you could convince all the men to walk away so they could fail on their own, you'll never get the old military back.

    [–]fakenate1 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    So if a woman gets pissed drunk and gets a sunburn that requires medical treatment they cannot be sent to non-judicial punishment?

    I'm asking about the technical legal code of justice here, not what will actually happen.

    [–]shitmoths 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    They could. However in most cases where a male and female commit the same offense, the female gets less punishment if any. For example I was reading NJP results for the region a while back and an E3 male was sleeping with his female supervisor (E6), clearly fraternization. Normally in this kind of situation the lower ranking of the two would get a slap on the wrist and get a serious talking to. For previous cases I looked up the lower ranking / subordinate would get 45 to 60 days of restriction and extra duty. Life would suck for a while and then they would move on. The superior however would normally lose rank, forfeit pay and do the previously mentioned punishments. This basically is a career ending move because you get forced out at a certain year mark for not making rank.

    Like I said those are the normal punishments, because normally the superior is a man, sleeping with a younger female subordinate.

    In this particular case the male was 21 years old, and his LPO (leading petty officer) was 28.

    His punishment was reduction in rank to E2, forfeiture of half months pay X2, with 45 days restriction and extra duties. Basically they fucked him as hard as the rules allow, and then spit on him.

    Her punishment was reduction in rank to E5, and 15 days restriction without extra duties. She was also moved off the ship to another command.

    Sure she took a hit to her career, but he took a hit to his life. She basically got sent back in time to try to make rank with a black mark on her record. It won't be hard to bounce back. In fact most of the E7 and above joke that you can't make chief without having been to mast (NJP).

    His life got fucked. 45 days of basically being a prisoner of the ship, plus the extra duty, meaning 16 hours of hard labor per day with no freedom. Not allowed internet access, any food not served in the mess, no phone access. Then he probably comes off restriction to a negative balance in his bank account and another two weeks to a full, albeit reduced paycheck. He will be struggling to fix his finances for at least a year before getting back where he was.

    Military life on a ship is bad enough, (check out the suicide rates compared to shore commands) but after that there is no way you re enlist.

    So in summary you get a kid who made a poor choice who could have grown in to a great sailor with a great career completely raped by the system and soured to the military, if not life itself. While on the other hand you have a grown adult in a supervisory role who knowingly and blatantly disregarded and disrespected her position, rank, and self through her actions that gets a slap on the wrist and a time out, never to be mentioned again.

    The roles normally being the other way with the exact opposite punishments paints a pretty clear picture for me.

    [–]AvatarJTC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    No. The UCMJ does not define soldiers as government property. The "sunburn myth" has been around awhile but it's bullshit.

    You could still be reprimanded for not wearing sunblock or whatever, but you couldn't be charged under article 108 unless you let them.

    Instead you'd be charged under 115, which is malingering, they talk a lot about that in basic/boot.

    [–]ioncehadsexinapool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Well, I guess I'll have a new pickup line in my pocket.

    [–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    They're experts at manipulation so I wouldn't doubt it. You got to be quick to catch onto these hos

    [–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    With commensurate pay rises as well as special new programs that will be created.

    AND, re-assigned to HR, to be hands-on "advisors" against sexual harassment and other programs in the Armed Forces. Also, as instructors and supply officers. Directors of sections which do not have equal representation of female officers.

    [–]2renzy77 498 points499 points  (154 children)

    You know those opening scenes of the Normandy invasion in Saving Private Ryan where all the men get mowed down by MG42 machine guns as they spill out of the boats onto Omaha beach?

    Now imagine if that had been women dying, instead of men.

    That's what equality looks like.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 122 points123 points  (13 children)

    Watched QT'S Hateful Eight recently, and it contains violence o' plenty. The first scene where a woman is the target, she takes a hard punch to the face, I hear this big gasp from some women in the audience.

    A boatload of men getting chewed up by bullets? No reaction other than, "War is bad. Men are evil."

    [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (4 children)

    I loved that movie. Didn't seem like it was 3 hours Long at all. A+ acting crew.

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      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      It's 3 hours of Tarantino sobbing his own knob, so yes, I absolutely did.

      [–]letsdocrack 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Tarantino managed to put the line "my big black dingus" into a movie. That scene is gold.

      [–]mijamala1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I didn't realize they filmed everytime a film "expert" blogger was in the same room as Quentin.

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (4 children)

      I laughed my heart out at that scene

      [–]Ali_knows 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Great movie uh? And yeah it is a good example of how different men and women are treated in society even in 2016.

      [–]TheReformist94 231 points232 points  (100 children)

      Brilliant. Id love to see that actually. They'll know what its like to be a man,being shat on by women all your life,being invisible from 14-28, getting cucked whilst fighting for your country, and divorce raped when you come home. Whilst men form a band of brothers, fight for their country's freedom,our women cheat on us behind our backs and instead of feeling remorse still take their military husbands to the slaughter house. I don't care if it'd their nature or if I'm in the anger phase,their behaviour is truly despicable.no positive way of spinning it

      [–]2renzy77 276 points277 points  (78 children)

      Whilst men form a band of brothers, fight for their country's freedom,our women cheat on us behind our backs and instead of feeling remorse still take their military husbands to the slaughter house.

      Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. -- Hillary Clinton, 17 November 1998

      They may have been unfaithful cheating whores, scheming up their divorce plans while their husbands were getting shot and maimed, but never forget, they're always the real victims no matter what.

      [–]notmyusualreddit 96 points97 points  (61 children)

      The coolest guy I ever knew, a stockcar driver and master mechanic, died the weekend after finding out his wife was cheating on him. They had a 5 year old kid too. He magically went way too crazy on his dirtbike in the sand dunes and crested a peak going way too fast and fell too far. Game over within days. I wouldn't say he committed suicide, but distressing news has made more than one guy act extremely recklessly soon after finding out that kind of news.

      His wife, confirmed cheating whore with a young child, has spent 10 years playing the widow victim card while bangs random dudes but never makes it public (I still know the group well). Making it public and having a new replacement would make her lose the victim card, which she prefers more than even having a new public relationship.

      EDIT: Warning: Reddit admins deleted me after 2 years of posting, even with current gold on my account, just because I posted a link to a youtube account that was easily available if you took a name news organizations were giving out and typed it into google yourself. The bias against Trump and the_donald is real.

      BUT, the reddit morons forgot to lock out EDITING your previous posts as part of the permanent ban.

      [–]2renzy77 106 points107 points  (59 children)

      I believe it.

      I had an uncle in the Marines.

      After my uncle found out his wife was cheating on him, he climbed into the back of his pickup truck and shot himself in the head.

      As a child, it was the first time I had ever been to a funeral.

      He left behind a son (my cousin) who was around the same age as me.

      After he died, his wife moved the guy she was cheating with into the house that my uncle had paid for, and went on living as if nothing had happened.

      [–]MakeEmSayAyy 65 points66 points  (55 children)

      See I would take the wife down then do myself in, fuck that shit.

      [–]199639 26 points27 points  (4 children)

      I bet he still loved her. That's why it hurt him so much that she was cheating. He would never hurt her because she meant so much to him. Obviously the feeling was not mutual, as it never can be with a woman. Since men are disposable women have developed the ability to replace a man without much thought. If a stronger man comes and kills your partner, it is in a woman's self interest to attach herself as quickly as possible to the new man. This provides the best outcome for her future offspring and herself.

      [–]fingerthemoon 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Yup. Brutal but true. Your wife fucks the guy that killed you. The history of our species.

      [–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Eggs are rare, sperm is plentiful. Just throw males all off Normandy beach. Be sure she doesn't break a fingernail in her mansion she acquired from divorce raping a wealth dragon, though. Gotta protect that egg.

      [–]alpha_n3rd 67 points68 points  (39 children)

      If my wife cheated on me I'd laugh right in her face then go find somebody else to fuck for the rest of my life. Only a total beta is so attached to his wife that he'd off himself because she cheated. AWALT. How do you even REALLY know your wife has never cheated? You don't.

      [–][deleted] 73 points74 points  (13 children)

      But here's the thing relevant to that story.

      OP's uncle was in the marines. He has a child.

      So in addition to finding out his wife is cheating on him, he'll owe child support, probably lose custody of his child and his home, etc. If OP was 9 when it happened, that's nearly 10 years of having to pay a cheater to raise his kids.

      He didn't just lose his wife that night, he realized he'd lost his life. So he decided to end it.

      I don't see a beta, I see an alpha with no options left. In antiquity, it was a badge of honor.

      [–]lawr11 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      But when that 10 years is up, he's got the remaining 30, 40, 50 years of his life left.

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

      After losing a majority of his pay, his house, his child (the mother will poison the kids mind), etc.

      That's hard to come back from. Especially if he didn't have an education - how could he have used his BI Bill if he was forced to pay child support? He'd have to got to work immediately, and be worse off because of it.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 30 points31 points  (11 children)

      You're right, ending it all because you're losing her is stupid. No bitch is worth your life.

      However, being subjugated to her indentured servant, having to give her everything you've earned, and never being able to live for yourself again because she will forever be in your wallet, that can be worth ending it. I for one would rather be dead than be a slave to some cheating cunt, and I was exactly that for 15 years. Through my 30s I stayed alive because I knew it would end eventually. Now in my late 40s I would be near 70 before I could live on what I earn without a woman sapping everything.

      That's why I had a vasectomy, no more kids. That's why I spin plates, no more bitches in my wallet. That's why I will never commit and sure as fuck not marry. In fact no bitch will ever hear me utter the words I love you for the rest of my life.

      [–]deeman010 8 points9 points  (3 children)

      I can't help but feel saddened to hear this, if only because someone had to go through years of pain and torment for us to benefit from (your) experience.

      Don't tell me that your kid hates you, how does one even deal with that?

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      Tip of the iceberg, my life is an example of how many times can a man get back up to kick the shit out of what knocked him down. Fighting against it all made me strong and resilient, and a bit cynical.

      My daughters are a story unto themselves, they had shit lives thanks to their mother and her bullshit. Long story, but they have to learn how to live on their own now.

      [–]godcomesfirst 33 points34 points  (5 children)

      No you wouldn't. If you got to the point of asking a woman to be your wife, you're far too attached to just laugh in her face and fuck someone else.

      [–]zxDanKwan 29 points30 points  (1 child)

      Married here. Been cheated on. Not true.

      Reaction is the same as it would be to anyone else who wronged you. You immediately seek retribution and vengeance.

      The difference is the rage burns hotter and longer, since it was done by someone you trusted.

      How one moves on from there is impacted by their amount of alpha or beta. A beta will blame himself, accepting that he just didn't do enough to keep her interest, and that she was right to go find what was missing elsewhere. More extreme cases, believing they are irredeemably flawed may decide to go game over.

      An alpha will know that the bitch is untrustworthy, and will act accordingly to a partner that failed. He will learn where he failed to spot or prevent this, but will also account for the fact that his partner actively deceived him, and there's only so much you can do to prevent that.

      [–]clonegreen 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      I remember when I was cheated on I was looking at ways to regain what we had, to have her want me as she used to.

      After meditating on the thought I realized it was her active decision to, she could have choose to end it amicably instead of stringing me along as she used my resources and lead me to believe a false reality.

      Fuck it burned bad, she would act so fake and pretend we were meant to be, meanwhile she was having one night stands.

      You're totally right, being treated unjustly isn't the fault of the victim. Took me a while to realize that.

      [–]alpha_n3rd 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      You must be new here. I've already have divorce lawyer on retainer, just in case.

      [–]MyDickFellOff 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      No man can hurt a woman, as a woman can hurt a man.

      You know better. We all know, as most of us in this subreddit have dated very toxic women. But if you don't and still believe in fairy tales. It might be the tipping point.

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        [–]recon_johnny 17 points18 points  (7 children)

        I can say this as a father with two children. A Man can love, care, protect, and nurture his children as good as any woman can. That nonsense that only a mother knows or can care for them is utter and complete bullshit.

        Now, I do notice I worked 12 hours days learning new skills, worked two jobs, and did everything I could to provide. If I chose to, I wouldn't have done those things and would have happily raised my kids by myself if need be.

        Kids need a loving parent. Don't matter what sex.

        [–]Sakash 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        What annoys me is that people continue to believe that mothers know best, when statistically women are far more likely to abuse their children. If a man kills his children, he's a monster. A woman does it, then she just have had problems, or a mental issue and needs to be nurtured.

        [–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Shit that's why I'll never commit suicide. No one will give a fuck, hell they'll be happier. That's why I'm a hustler out here stomping on fools. I ain't slowing down either.

        [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        If you want to see a feminist's head explode, respond to the victim quote sternly with: "I'm sure there are a lot of gay parents who'd disagree with you."

        [–]reddit_already 26 points27 points  (3 children)

        That quote has always struck me as one of the dumbest feminist wartime rationalizations one could possibly utter. Okay, Hillary, if the dead husbands, fathers, and sons truly have it so much better while the surviving women are the REAL victims, why not offer these women a cyanide pill or a bullet and immediately grant them the same "privilege"?

        [–]zedsdedforever 36 points37 points  (0 children)

        From Joe Rogan: “Booty is so strong that there are dudes willing to blow themselves up for the highly unlikely possibility of booty in an other dimension. There are no chicks willing to blow themselves up for a penis."

        [–]TheIceReaver 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        '... Did you just suggest that those poor women kill themselves? How dare you.'

        [–]bushmonster43 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. -- Hillary Clinton, 17 November 1998

        If you go by rules of primary vs. secondary sources, that actually makes them secondary victims of war.

        No matter how you spin it though, it's a bullshit statement.

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          [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

          Shoo shoo with your logical arguments in the land of emotions.

          [–]benuntu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Primary: I don't think that means what you think it means, Hillary.

          Pretty sure the primary victims are those who were injured or killed.

          [–]White_Phillip 17 points18 points  (5 children)

          The dependapotamus is the worst of the worst when it comes to women. It's healthy to get out of the anger phase, but cucking military wives absolutely deserve it.

          [–]antariusz 8 points9 points  (9 children)

          I'd love to see it too, but hollywood, in general, despises violence against women unless it's a major plot point to show how evil a villain is.

          [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (8 children)

          Hateful 8

          Beat a bitch, knock her teeth out, and string her up.

          "Art"

          [–]DrScientist812 8 points9 points  (7 children)

          That movie got a lot of hate for its alleged misogyny, but the truth is that she was just as bad as anyone else in there. Which is funny because when you consider Kill Bill, Jackie Brown, Death Proof, and Inglourious Basterds all had strong female characters its hard to imagine he's a misogynist.

          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (6 children)

          Why is that hard to imagine? Disney, a franchise literally built on "princess" movies gets skewered every time they make a movie for having a female lead but wasn't strong enough or not independent enough or TOO independent. They can literally bitch about anything

          [–]USModernMilitia 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          Damn man, so damn true. This statement really hits me hard. These feminazis ALWAYS find something to complain about. An example, feminists bitch because Target has separate toys for boys and girls, aka legos and girls and boys should be able to play with the same toys. Target caves and combines both sections, feminists then complain that there are no girl legos. It is literally diseased and psychotic thinking...

          [–]Gman777 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          It takes a selfish bitch to do something like that. Humans have evolved their minds and social skills to control and keep in check base urges and to have a moral compass. A good woman doesn't cheat on principle, not because she dosn't have drives. Just the same as a good man doesn't rape or kill whenever he feels like it.

          [–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          It's scary to know that most men can but most women can not. Says a lot about them. It's terrifying, actually.

          [–]blue_27 26 points27 points  (5 children)

          Would never happen. This is not an insult, but it sounds like you haven't been around women in the military. They do NOT pull their own weight. They just don't. They get knocked up, and go on light duty.

          That opening scene of Saving Private Ryan would still be all men, but it would just be all backups, who didn't train for the mission. The soldiers who trained for it, would be fat and happy,back in the world nursing their brood.

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            [–]bcwalker 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            That will go to the SCOTUS, and they will rule in favor of the women- not the Services.

            [–]adulttalkaccount 8 points9 points  (1 child)

            Not quite. The women would have never qualified for combat. They would have been put in support roles and then would have gotten pregnant in theater. Then combat capable men would be pulled from the font lines to fill staff roles previously filled by women. The weakening of the front line would ensure MORE male casualties among those still in combat.

            [–]Sworn_to_Ganondorf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Id rather watch that all female cast remake than the garbage ghost busters atrocity.

            [–]Danimal876 6 points7 points  (7 children)

            It's probably also what defeat looks like.

            [–]MakeEmSayAyy 24 points25 points  (6 children)

            dude an army full of women would agree to surrender SO fast, then get treated in the media as heroes. As they fuck the enemy and join up with them to save themselves.

            [–]Danimal876 11 points12 points  (5 children)

            Very true, though awful to think about. What can be worse than your women first dishonoring each other by casting themselves as warriors, and then being taken as trophies by your enemies?

            [–]MurderKube 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            I'm sure that could be solved by bolstering the ranks with some friendly NKVD style blocking battalions. Executions will continue until morale improves.

            On a more serious note that kind of behavior would cause a nation wide loss of morale of a magnitude which has never before been seen. Further just imagine how the enemy would exploit such an event for propaganda? Just thinking about it disgusts me.

            [–]epicaricacy12 74 points75 points  (12 children)

            [–]Trail_of_Jeers 37 points38 points  (3 children)

            Jesus Christ. No concept of honor. She's excited because it's a new frontier for women, shirking duty to the state. Nevermind she made an oath or anything. Godsdamn.

            [–]epicaricacy12 20 points21 points  (0 children)

            the pussification of America, boys

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            I swear. Terms and conditions apply.

            [–]Randomusernameyessss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            The funny thing is she is now worth quite a bit of money having already gone through basic.. I hate to say I told you so to feminists about it being a waste of money but ah.. I told you so..

            [–]BleachedWhale 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            She is officially a deserter, now.
            Go giiirrls!

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              [–]Kalepsis 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              Holy shit, thank you for that. It's been so long since I said "LMFAO" and meant it. Everyone should have a good laugh sometimes.

              Can't wait for the article about her going to the brig. She's gonna love that.

              [–][deleted] 197 points198 points  (42 children)

              If you think women would ever be pressed into equal levels of service, I've got oceanfront property in Mongolia to sell.

              On paper women will be assigned the same roles and responsibilities. In real life the white knight officers will make the dudes do all the dangerous work while the women stand fast.

              Then there's good old fashioned hypergamy. It was a common sight on base to see young E3 females hanging out with E-7+ guys. Take two guesses who's gonna be in a warm HQ tent and who's gonna be on the frontline facing enemy units.

              [–]DoubleTappp 116 points117 points  (37 children)

              You are out of your fucking mind if you think I'm going to "make the dudes do all the dangerous work while the women stand fast" is a matter of being a white knight.

              It's a matter of doing what it takes to win.

              I'm all about some discussion that goes on here but when this topic especially crops up it just makes me feel uneasy because, I would certainly argue, most EVERYONE on this forum has not seen combat. It's just a sad case of you don't know, what you don't know.

              Yes, you are probably right, if a female comes to my grunt unit and cannot perform adequately, she will probably end up as a clerk in the COC. In that warm fucking tent, sure. But in doing so, it is certainly not to protect her, but rather it's to arm my guys with the most efficient personnel to do the job that needs to be done outside the wire.

              [–]Goddamnhologram 34 points35 points  (18 children)

              USAF vet, Intelligence. I remember multiple occasions where women would just break down and cry for getting yelled at, or when there was pressure to perform because of time sensitivity, etc. And that was on a cozy ops floor in Anchorage, AK. So imagine a female fully rucked in the middle of combat, getting yelled at, shot at, etc. I'm sure some can do it but realistically, most would fail miserably. Most men would fail miserably too, I suppose. When we got shelled in AFG it was always the women freaking out.

              [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 37 points38 points  (17 children)

              Also USAF, air cargo. Think a girl can push a 5,000lb pallet? Think five of them can? Girls in my job were in the fucking way most of the time, that's why they got the office jobs and bullshit where they didn't have to do anything physical. Was there ever a girl throwing bags in the belly of a plane in the desert? Fuck no, that plane has to leave sometime in the near future. Were there girls loading planes? Sometimes but you couldn't tell she was pushing the pallet. Everything they tied down we had to check and tighten. I had more than a few who couldn't spot a vehicle while backing up and many aircraft were hit. I knew two who could drive and operate equipment as well as my most mediocre man, the rest were fucking dangerous on a simple forklift.

              Counsel them they cry then run up the chain and say you were mean to them, then you get yelled at for her fuck up.

              The US military runs on things that are predominantly shipped via air, it is vital that my old job is done fast, efficiently, and as safe as possible or men in the field don't have what they need, tires, oil, armor kits, ammo, parts, everything is shipped by air at some point. Having bitches who can't lift 25lbs in that job means men will have to do her work for her, because the shit needs to get on and off the plane.

              Logistics is everything. D day would have never worked if not for Eisenhower's abilities in logistics. Same with the Berlin Airlift, Desert Shield/Storm, and OIF/OEF. If the shit you need isn't there, you can't do a damn thing. Girls are usually in the fucking way.

              [–]Zefwano 10 points11 points  (2 children)

              Can attest to that, ex-Loadmaster here. Had a chick drive the tines of her forklift into the ramp, get lodged under a lip and snap it when she tried to bring them up. Saw a K-loader get ran into the Aircraft Strakes on the back end. Had another doofus blow the Fire Extinguisher unit in an MRAP that had 8+ people inside of it trying to find the battery toggle switch so we could start the damn thing and drive it off the plane. Literally every accident I ever saw involved women (rather girls/children) acting stupid and not knowing what they were doing.

              [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              I have hundreds of stories like that. Could write a book. I know one bitch who hit five 141s while driving 40k loaders and they never pulled her license, instead they blamed the spotters, who she wasn't watching. Reserves and females made me do accident reports and explain to the Col what happened, far more than active duty men.

              I had quite a few loadmaster friends, mostly C5 guys.

              [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

              Army combat vet here. On my first (and only) deployment, we went to the range in Kuwait to zero our weapons before we hot dropped into Iraq. We had a few females from HHC (headquarters) that were told to zero with us. When it came time to zero, we all got our sandbags and went to our lane to start firing. Not a single one of the fucking females could carry a sandbag to the firing line. There were probably 8 in their group, and not fucking exaggerating, we had to stop the range, and get men to carry the sandbag for them so they could spend the next 3 hours wasting tax payer money trying to zero their weapons. I'm all for females in combat...for women that can do the exact job as the average man, but unfortunately that is about 0.01 percent of females, and you can bet your ass the military isn't going to keep the standard the same across the board.

              [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Is the PT standard the same? Is the bf% the same? Are any requirements the same?

              You have the answer to what will happen.

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                [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 28 points29 points  (14 children)

                It's both. Militaries do not spend the majority of their time in close combat. Of course women are not as good at combat, but the real damage will be done in garrison where women will percolate throughout combat MOSs, which under the name of "equality" will invariably lead to lower standards and wasted billets.

                [–]doublereignbeau 14 points15 points  (9 children)

                I would argue that letting a woman into critical areas of operation will cause just as much failure as asking her to scale a 10 ft wall with 80 lbs of gear on.

                Imagine a catfight between bitches while the men are trying to provide support during a firefight. Might actually be better to let the women die on the battlefield.

                [–]DoubleTappp 7 points8 points  (7 children)

                Now just to be clear, there are absolutely women that already occupy various roles in Tier 1 outfits and high-clearance three letter agencies. It is true. Women possess the critical thinking ability, no contest. Have women passed grueling vetting courses? Absolutely. Are women capable of killing—ooooh, fuck yes

                Careful now, your undue bias is showing; But please, keep doling out your "informed" opinion on the matter.

                [–]doublereignbeau 17 points18 points  (3 children)

                Studies by the USMC and other military organizations would suggest such women occupy approx 3.8% of the female population.

                If you are telling me there are enough level headed people to fill up the US military, I'll call bullshit. If you tell me there are enough level headed WOMEN to fill 50% of the officer corps, I'm going to call bullshit.

                (Unrelated rant below)

                Most MALE college graduates I interview for work (whenever my company hires) can't do 8th grade mathematics. The cognitive functions of the females are even worse.

                Community college, State Universities, even the University of California graduates. All worthless with no higher cognitive function.

                We're not talking about average people. University educated men. Don't even get me started on the women.

                [–]Kalepsis 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                I agree completely. But in my experience, those females are 1 in 200 at best.

                [–]Kalepsis 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                This right here.

                And they already walk away from boards with promotions that should've gone to better-qualified males, for no reason other than that they have no penis. I may get heat for saying this, but for the most part, I would say a male Corporal is a match for any female Staff Sergeant.

                [–]trendynamegoeshere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Im with this guy. I have seen women in the Engineers and they become dead weight, fast.

                [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                To be fair not all the officers making the men do all the hard shit are white knights. Some of them just know a woman physically isn't capable of doing a lot of the jobs.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                It's not even white knight officers, man, officers who need to get shit done will have men do it. I'm sorry, but there were maybe two women in the service when I was in that pulled their weight - the rest just kind of did lightweight shit and collected their paychecks.

                [–]Sdom1[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                If you think women would ever be pressed into equal levels of service, I've got oceanfront property in Mongolia to sell.

                I don't. Again, I just thought womens' reactions to this were funny.

                [–][deleted] 76 points77 points  (31 children)

                Worth noting that Israel is one of the few countries that conscipt women

                (but for 2 not 3 years like men)

                Virtually all of Israel's female combat soldiers are confined to two light battalions which are assigned to guard the borders of Egypt and Jordan.

                Its not a conicidence that Egypt and Jordan are the only two Arab countries to have a peace treaty with Israel.

                [–]Sdom1[S] 35 points36 points  (1 child)

                That is still a benefit, though, as it frees up more men to guard the dangerous regions.

                [–]el_superbeastooo 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                Most of the women in the army there are glorified secretaries and eye candy for the higher ups.

                It's also worth noting that while they're part of the draft they can also opt to do "National Service" for whatever bullshit reason they can make up. It mostly consists of unsupervised "community service".

                [–]MedayekMan 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                Yeah but nothing is hotter than going out on a Thursday night and seeing a girl in an evening dress with her hair done, make up, heels and an M16 hanging off her back. Oh, and she's in shape.

                [–]Kalepsis 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                In shape? Which military are you in?

                [–]MedayekMan 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                Not in any military. But a fan of these girls of the IDF. http://www.guns.com/2013/03/22/girls-of-the-israeli-defense-forces-37-photos/

                [–]Kalepsis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Damn. Those are some good-looking bitches. Their prone positions are a little sloppy, though. It helps to fold back that left leg for stability, and to present a smaller target. You keep as much of your body as possible directly behind the weapon.

                [–]verify_account 21 points22 points  (21 children)

                Its not a conicidence that Egypt and Jordan are the only two Arab countries to have a peace treaty with Israel.

                Israel would crumble in a month without the support of the United States. The USA is why they have peace treaties with Israel.

                [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

                Very true

                And completely off topic with females having miniscule value in a combat role.

                [–]The_Truth_is_a_Troll 88 points89 points  (10 children)

                Of course, registering for compulsory military service is immoral and shouldn't happen at all.

                So it's short-sighted to simply spike the football on retarded feminists, when statists believe that your life is the state's to use and dispose of.

                By law you are required to register yourself in the event that they decide to use you and put your life on the line for their goals. That is monstrous.

                [–]Sdom1[S] 33 points34 points  (8 children)

                I'm not a fan of the draft, but realize that is a big part of the rationale for allowing 18 year olds to vote. Women, as always, have ridden on these coattails and proceeded to back ridiculous social policies, some of which have created the anti-male environment our societies have become. They always want, and get, free shit and claim they've earned it, so it's funny to watch them get mushroom stamped by reality's big fat dick.

                Rights always come with responsibilities attached, as they must. In our current society, we've been gradually separating the two and it's done nothing good for us.

                [–]alpha_n3rd 13 points14 points  (7 children)

                There is no draft. US military service is currently strictly voluntary. Selective service just makes it easier to track us down in case there ever is a draft, although looking at your IRS record would probably be easier.

                In terms of preventing another draft, good luck with that, conscription is as old as humanity. It doesn't matter what we do now, when the time comes for a draft there will be a fucking draft.

                [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

                Yeah, but now you can't get out of it because you have tits.

                Earn your spot.

                [–]CoriolanusRevisited 60 points61 points  (0 children)

                As a Marine veteran, I completely agree with you. However, since nobody gives a damn about men or the immorality of the draft, the only way we can possibly repeal Selective Service Act is by forcing it upon women as well, and getting people to as usual vote with their gut instincts and have it repealed for women's sake, especially given how women are the large majority of college students and are so often in government jobs (both of those situations it is absolutely vital you are registered with the Selective Service).

                [–]hva_vet 76 points77 points  (14 children)

                I used to stand watch on the flight line over our squadron of aircraft. We shared a hangar and flight line with a RAG squadron and back in the early 90's those were the only Navy squadrons with women. One cold night I was standing my four hour watch and a female sailor was doing the same one row over. She was constantly calling on the radio for relief because her nipples were hard and sore from the cold. True story.

                Our squadron made a brief deployment with the same RAG squadron on a carrier and it was, to my knowledge, the first time women were allowed on the flight deck. While us guys humped chains and did our manly shit launching aircraft off the pointy end the girls were huddled up together around the island. Equality my ass. Us guys could haul 15 chains to their four or five.

                I got out before women were allowed to join full sea going squadrons so I have no idea what it's like up on the flight deck now. Back in the early 90's it was pathetic.

                [–]thenemaxofredpill 46 points47 points  (11 children)

                Those chains are no fucking joke. "But they are just little tie down chains"....yeah maybe but add 120 degree flight deck temp....jet exhaust everywhere....50mph head winds and then drag some damn chains.

                God that Navy was so badass. Well...except for all the fat ass women in it.

                [–]hva_vet 37 points38 points  (9 children)

                The thing that really pissed us guys off on that deployment was the women got to stay in officer ward rooms while we were packed in our 80 man birthing, like sardines, as usual. I have no idea what they do now. I mean, there wasn't much distinction between a passageway and a birthing and privacy wasn't even a thing. So WTF do the women do on a carrier now. If a dude wanted to walk around in his birthday suit there wasn't really anything to stop him and nobody would give a shit or even notice anyway. It must be a different Navy now.

                [–]thenemaxofredpill 41 points42 points  (7 children)

                Dude. I feel you. And get this.

                So I join a year before this fat chick. I was a plane captain and shop night supervisor....me and the other guys in the shop busted our asses on the flight line with the aircraft. This chick, on the other hand...never did any work because she was fucking the Chief. All she did was sit inside and study for the next exam. Before I got out...this chick was a rank higher than me. She couldn't even answer how to repair electronics. Couldn't even pin a harness when we needed her to. Pure political BS. I got out because of it.

                [–]hva_vet 25 points26 points  (4 children)

                I got out in '93 and this stuff was just starting to ramp up. Coed boot camps were just about to start. Before then the women were just waves and nobody paid them much attention while on sea duty. They were around but hardly noticed unless you went sick call or PSD or something. I was in a male dominated Navy and this is where I learned TRP before there was ever any TRP. If you didn't own your shit and behave like you genuinely had a pair you would be eaten alive in that Navy.

                [–]blue_27 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                We served around the same time. I went to boot in San Dawg, and ... we didn't have any females on the base. HOWEVER, we weren't allowed to be shirtless in the barracks, just in case a female officer came in (for whatever reason) and got offended. This is right after Tailhook.

                The stories I hear now absolutely terrify and disgust me. No way I'd be able to handle today's Navy. I'm POSITIVE I'd end up with a Big Chicken Dinner. At least we tied up next to the Prairie in Long Beach, because if you couldn't get ass at the base club, all you had to do was stand by her quarterdeck for a little while and pull a chick there. If you still couldn't get laid, then you absolutely didn't deserve to.

                And ... female A-school students were fun too. Fuck, I miss NTC sometimes.

                [–]hva_vet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Tailhook changed everything. It was literally what changed the military to what it is today. One little interesting anecdote....my CO was Tailhook and my squadron and leadership were ground fucking zero. I was just a kid and didn't even know what was going on around me but I learned later just how involved officers right up my own chain of command were involved.

                [–]thenemaxofredpill 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                I got out in 07. I was still privy to the old school ways like sleeping in the barracks that didn't have real heat or air in the Chicago winter. All the while...the female squads got to sleep in the brand new barracks with central heat and air with a restaurant and market on the bottom floor.

                [–]Kalepsis 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Marine veteran here. Last ship I was on was an LHD (the Essex). Females have their own berthing now, same as the guys. And oh, the bitching, the glorious, wonderful bitching. It was so thick you could drizzle it over pancakes. We loved knowing they were just as miserable as we were.

                [–]purgisupp 56 points57 points  (1 child)

                The army is mandatory where I come from. During my time there I noticed that another group had two women, aged around 27-30 in them. Found out that they were officers working for the air force and needed to do 3 months of basic army training in order to get a promotion.

                So during the army here you pretty much spend two weeks in the base, then one out in the forest (or sometimes two) going through the exercises. It goes like this pretty much for 11 months.

                During the time when these women served, I never saw them going out to the forest. Every time the group had to go, they suddenly both "felt ill". Or when every time the group had a hike they were "ill". In the end of the 3 months, the group made a 40 mile hike what was needed for completion of the basic training. Guys were going through deep swamps and walking with blistered feet. What were these two girls doing? Sleeping in the base at the same time.

                In the ceremony, both of them still got the emblems showing that they've completed the basic training, while they actually didn't do quarter of the stuff what everybody else did. It was like special olympics.

                [–]Lsegundo 70 points71 points  (0 children)

                Good post but I think special Olympics is a the wrong example. Special Olympians work hard with what they have got.

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                [–]Adolf_ghandi 35 points36 points  (2 children)

                Like any politician ever wanted to surrender his stolen power to reasonable people that are actually concerned about their country.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                I dunno, trade in the under 24 crowd and you can raise the age of consent, drinking age, smoking age, etc. That's quite a bit of money you can make for the prison industry

                [–]1ToSeeAndToHear 13 points14 points  (5 children)

                I'm generally left on my social policies, but I feel like the "pay in more than you take out" requirement for voting would be a good way to balance out a system that does provide substantial assistance to those who need it.

                [–]strps 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                In fact this was the basis of greek democracy. Not a bad plan to have the stakeholders being the one making the calls.

                [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

                If women's suffrage was reversed the Democratic Party would evaporate overnight. TRP should vote Red. Fuck Bernie and Hillary. Trump the God Emperor --- 2016.

                Outcome of 2012 Presidential Election if only white men were able to vote

                The first "victory" of women winning the franchise....Prohibition.

                [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                There was a Harvard study done which found that without women's suffrage the Republican Party would have swept every election but two in the last hundred years. Also, that was precisely the time that the government began its inexorable growth.

                http://i.imgur.com/oRPp5nW.png

                http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                I'm leaning more Cruz, but I legit laughed at "Trump the God-Emperor 2016."

                [–]Sdom1[S] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

                I actually fully agree. Repeal the draft and yes, unless you are a net taxpayer, no vote for you. I think 25 is a good place for the age restriction - you can't rent a car until age 25 for a reason.

                [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                God I wish we could restrict the vote.

                I like Heinlein's idea of a couple years of service - military or otherwise. You want to decide on the direction the state should go? You put your stakes in the game.

                [–]blacwidonsfw 128 points129 points  (21 children)

                Do you really wanna be in a trench with Brittany checking her snapchat next to you?

                [–][deleted] 87 points88 points  (0 children)

                the trench

                You must mean the droneroom?

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                  [–]ezone2kil 23 points24 points  (8 children)

                  If the draft filtered women for 'sanity' and 'level-headedness' how many percent do you think will make the cut?

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                    [–]TerryYockey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Sure, many women do shitbag things like purposely get pregnant immediately before their unit deploys (pregnant females don't deploy with their units) or they'll get pregnant while deployed and get a ticket home

                    How is this remark any different than the comments made by the so-called armchair vets?

                    [–]1kick6 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                    Absolutely not, but I'd leave to see these stupid equalicunts back off their position.

                    [–]GnonSequitur 14 points15 points  (2 children)

                    I'm fantasizing about a female-only squad of feminists all getting slaughtered in combat. Flailing pathetically. Realizing how inadequate they are for the job, and suddenly for the first time in their obtuse lives admitting to themselves that they really, really need some big strong men to come save them.

                    Then bullets and blackness.

                    I'm not bitter.

                    [–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 41 points42 points  (20 children)

                    Welcome, gentlemen, to the Cycle of Civilization.

                    Through hardship and opportunity, a K-selected, warrior culture crashes into prominence. Relentlessly, systematically, over a number of generations, this aggressive, militant civilization crushes its enemies and achieves dominion over the known world. Think: Rome, England, USA.

                    Then, their victory becomes their own downfall. Resources, previously scarce, are made abundant through conquest -- so abundant, in fact, that they appear to be infinite. And this is the beginning of the end. You see -- it was scarcity, hardship, and lack that drove those Roman grandfathers to board their primitive boats and go slaughter the Carthaginians, so that their grandchildren might know a world without opposition.

                    The illusion of infinite resources triggers a civilization-wide shift to a more R-selected reproductive strategy. Instead of the most capable and educated couples having two or three children, and investing heavily in them, you have the dumbest, least capable citizens pumping out three, five, or even seven future underachievers.

                    This is the stage we are in. Socialism has so engrained itself into the national psyche, that we no longer consider it a bad idea to tax the most productive citizens in order to finance the babies of the least productive. You can have some dumbass like Bernie Sanders promising free college, and people think it's a great idea. People clamor for women in combat, in the name of equality. This all flows directly from the illusion of infinite resources.

                    The final step in the process for Rome, England, or USA is to be conquered by another insurgent, warrior culture at the beginning of the cycle. Rome fell to the Visigoths, and England fell to an upstart America. Who will the USA fall to?

                    [–]Sdom1[S] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

                    It's also funny that people think socialism is a new idea. It's been around for thousands of years by various names and in various incarnations, from the Romans to the Ancient Inca, and it's failed every fucking time.

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    But they have computers this time!

                    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                    Socialism will be our downfall. More democrats are for it than ever before. Young people love the idea. The fact that Sanders is promoting this BS and is not seen as a radical polling at 5% is absurd. Trump may be a dick but Sanders policies would literally destroy this country

                    Wealth and success were once idolized in America. Now it's demonized. Failure of all things is what people tout. Just look at the victim wars, it is an absolutely sickening race to the bottom. Poor people on welfare in this country have cell phones, electricity, plenty of space, food stamps, cars, television, etc. YET assholes like Sanders STILL convince America that we are some disaster of a nation.

                    Fuck them.

                    [–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    I heard conservative commentator Bill Whittle (who, by the way, is a genius communicator) summarize the three major beliefs of the Left:

                    1. Wealth is unearned
                    2. Sharing is cool
                    3. Let us help you!

                    It's that #1 that's so insidious, and justifies all this damaging taxation. Because, if wealth is unearned, then it's okay to take it -- moral, even. But... if wealth is EARNED, then taxes are theft.

                    Btw, these are his Conservative values as he articulates them:

                    1. Wealth generation
                    2. Don't be a jerk
                    3. Leave me alone

                    Sounds pretty damn good to me.

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                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Yep. Notice how quickly one group shuts up when it's out victimed by the other.

                      For example: that catcall video that made the rounds a few months ago. Great at showing the hardships women faced due to the evil nature of males!

                      ....until someone pointed out that all the men were black. Being a woman is haaaard but being black is oh so tougher! The group had to backtrack from the video.

                      Absolutely hysterical to see how sexism and racism is allowed to go in one direction to those morons

                      [–]bluedrygrass 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      This time, tough, it's directed and coordinated, not just spontaneous. This time it doesn't need a direct enemy.

                      This time, The people behind the curtains will unite in a global government where states don't really matter, only to keep civilians down. This time there's the technology, the science to do so.

                      [–]12_f_taiwan 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                      Well solution is very simple: not eligible for draft - not eligible to vote.

                      [–]CDBaller 22 points23 points  (1 child)

                      Do we really think this will happen? White knights will be up in arms (lol). It doesn't fit the narrative, just like equal physical fitness standards don't. I fully expect the top brass to be ignored on this, just like they were ignored on combat integration. The pussy pass hamstering will prevail.

                      On the other hand, I'd love to see a few whales inserted on the front lines as bullet sponges.

                      [–]DroppinHadjisLandR 13 points14 points  (2 children)

                      99% of them are unfit to be fucking housewives let alone serve in the military.

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                      [–]TheAureate 16 points17 points  (7 children)

                      From The Last of the Mohicans:

                      "Magua understands that the white man is a dog to his women. When they are tired, he puts down his tomahawk to feed their laziness."

                      [–]LelSupSon 13 points14 points  (3 children)

                      Women sure do have a strange definition of a word " equal ".

                      The truth is that there is no equality when it comes to male and females, but it is not because women are oppressed, it is the opposite.

                      In my country I had to go to the army for one year while girls my age did not.

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                        [–]bluedrygrass 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        And this is particularly stupid. It's not that getting a head shaved requires particularly skills or strenght. There's no reason to let females keep their fancy hairs, outside privilege.

                        [–]lost_lurker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        This is actually a really bad thing. While the government is opening combat roles to women they can't pass the physical tests to get combat jobs. If a draft comes through guess which sex is going to get all the cush office jobs. It won't matter if a man is more qualified for the non combat job because women can't do the combat job and men are expendable.

                        Source: in the military

                        [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                        As much as i enjoy watching feminists squirm, i still have to say this move would be bad. We know that the presence of women generally dilutes the quality of any structure--the most masculine ones suffer the most.

                        In a combat zone, with Stephanie in a position to influence whether or not you make it alive...that scenario should scare any man.

                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Why try so hard to stop the pendulum's momentum, when you can just let physics do the work for you? Let Cultural Marxism run its course, the harder you fight the more fuel their righteousness receives.

                        Of course it won't be fun but you can maintain hope that there's going to be a day when anyone that complains about toxic masculinity in public will receive a solid dose of it on the teeth.

                        [–]Gbcue 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        I've seen feminists now moving the goal posts to "eliminate the draft." Now that they're going to be included, they have to change the subject.

                        [–]WALLOM 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                        Then we're going to hear that the rigors of basic training are too much for Tiffany and her friends, so they dumb them down enough to get them through, and then deaths due to negligence and unskilled training go through the roof. You can almost predict how this shit will go down.

                        [–]yomo86 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                        I loled. Faced with the right in your face hamster women miraculously oppose the draft in general now .

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                          [–]yomo86 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                          I know crabs in a bucket, however, when equality strikes with objectivity suddenly all femnazis are in support of abolishing the draft altogether. They wanted their equality so fight with all the other crabs of society.

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                          [–]stawek 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          I am pro women in combat.

                          Let ISIS behead a few of them on national television and the politicians will very quickly decide that sending soldiers out just for the fun of it is a bad idea.

                          The few women soldiers that will die will save thousands of young men from useless death at the hands of trigger happy politicians.

                          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                          I feel like (know) other countries laugh at us every time we lower our military standards to make it more accessible for women. Its like we are telling the world we are so stupid as a country that we are going allow the physically inferior gender to fight wars for us.

                          [–]Gman777 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          So true. Men recognized very early on that when it comes to reproduction, women are a lot more valuable than men, and need to be protected in times of conflict.

                          You want your bullshit equality? Fine, we'll lower your standing for you, off to the front lines, cupcake.

                          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                          Oh god I chipped a nail. Its so hot and sandy here! Everyone is mean to me! I cant deal with this im going home! That guy on the otherside of no mans land keeps looking at me through a periscope hes so creepy not my type!

                          [–]Captain__Stabbin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          Can't find the source. But I saw a thread where women were calling for the repeal of the draft saying it's unnecessary (which it definitely is necessary) which I thought was funny. Only now that women are about to be include in the draft are they worried about it.

                          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                          Thing is, this could get people killed. Like, what if some guy gets shot and a girl physically cannot drag him to safety?

                          Women can fight, and they can meet requirements and then I have no problem as long as they are at least near men's. but a draft is different.

                          [–]Sdom1[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                          A small price to pay for feelz, right?

                          Don't worry, they'll never go. They'd open the gates and let the barbarians in first, after cutting a deal.

                          [–]Yoxinov 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I'm not sure you understand the rationale that some feminists have to support this. They know that women should never be forced to draft, so by moving society towards that option either the government will force them to draft or society will force the government to stop using the draft completely,and they are betting on the latter. They intend to 'extend' their privilege to 'equal' males to say no one should be forced to take part in the draft.

                          [–]Venicedreaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          But do you actually want women fighting along side with you in battle though?

                          [–]herewegoaga1n 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          The facts are that dead female soldiers and raped female P.O.W.s is terrible for moral at home and the brass would have already seen this possibility. This is a P.R. stunt that will inevitably cost more male lives, but it's a good thing society doesn't give a fuck about them.

                          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Everyone is equal but some people are more equal than others

                          [–]Brewjo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Popp tells it straight. Also his warning about a graphic segment is possibly NSFW/L.

                          [–]masterm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I mean, it sounds like a good time to use this public fiasco to get rid of the selective service

                          [–]rokr1292 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          inb4 a war and pregnancy is the #1 way to draft dodge and more men get scammed into unplanned fatherhood, creating a generation of bastard children

                          [–]dsquard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Where are some good examples of feminists reacting to this news?

                          [–]Janus_Fawkes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Of course...it won't come to pass. The feminists will abolish the draft if they can't avoid it.

                          [–]RiseAboveRuin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Bunch of fucking idiots in this thread

                          [–]1nzgs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I don't see how someone can be a conservative and libertarian unless they misunderstand what the terms mean.

                          [–]Mgtowredpillonroids 3 points4 points  (5 children)

                          If you want to know what this could look like, look no further than Isreal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Israel_Defense_Forces#Combat_roles

                          [–]JF0909 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          I visited Israel when i was in my late 20's and met a lot of people younger than myself who were currently serving their mandatory military service.

                          Both men and women serve. Not everyone picks up a gun and goes to the front line, lots of people do civil service or other government jobs. After you serve the 2-3 years, you can stay in and make a career in the military, or you can go to college.

                          It was interesting to see how it changes the attitudes of the people. They have much more respect for their country and what it means to be a citizen. I'm not sure it would work in a country this size, but it might be a step in the right direction.

                          [–]BradPill 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          The Russians during WWII and the North-Vietnamese during Vietnam War (maybe even after) deployed all-women battalions into combat. Many as snipers. The Russians also had a few all-women Air Force squadrons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches
                          So it is nothing 'new' as such: we're just not used (or willing) to women in body-bags (apart from physical constraints/limitations - it's still not clear (to me - well, ok....) how women perform in, say, SEAL teams).
                          But any feminist worth her salt (and being only moderately tactically advanced), would/should have demanded the draft for women when the movement (and demands) started. But then, they are of course pacifists as well - how convenient....

                          [–]Sdom1[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          I'm not advocating for women in the military, I just thought the "wait, what?!" reactions of feminists on twitter were pretty funny. I love watching people realize they got a little too tricky for their IQ level and fucked themselves.

                          [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          The problem with this is that it won't work. Women have absolutely no ability to feel empathy for men. That is why they can watch movies about men dying in war and feel nothing but watch a movie about a woman getting punched and they go apeshit.

                          If there were to be a real life situation where women were being forced to go die in war our country would grind to a halt and go out of our way to help females. Once it got shown how many women were dying they would force the draft to be abolished.

                          [–]BlackPhoenix01 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          I have no problem with women serving in the military. It's illogical for a government to cordon off ~50% of its population from fighting, especially in a war. Look at the Soviet Union during WWII. Some of the female soldiers there did quite well

                          That said, this debate is purely in the realm of the theoretical. If we're talking about the US, we're never going to have a draft in our lifetimes, especially since the generation that is governing the country (Baby Boomers) experienced the Vietnam War in all its horror.

                          That said, Julie Borowski, a libertarian, mentioned women being eligible for the draft being one reason why she opposed women being in the military. As the old adage goes, freedom isn't free. You want your freedom and equality, it comes with responsibilties

                          [–]rektum_expander 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          I don't think it's going to be a problem. With the rampant obesity and them not being able to pass fitness tests, and the option to become pregnant before deployment they will never leave home. Or worse, they lower standards when these zero women passing.

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                          If you're in a long term war, sending your baby factories to die is a bad decision.

                          [–]Philhelm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          I wouldn't let them take my daughters. I'm against conscription out of principle (maybe others here aren't, but I'm not here to argue that point), but I think that at the very least, the sons and daughters of veterans should be allowed a waiver from having to register for the draft. Maybe there could be certain stipulations, like a requirement of actual deployment to a combat theater, or perhaps a certain length of service, but it would be a way for the government to thank its veterans. "Thank you for your service. You went to war for this country so that your sons and daughters don't have to."

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