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Red Pill TheoryThe Sixteen Commandments Of Poon (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by NoMoreMrNiceGuy95

I. Never say ‘I Love You’ first

Women want to feel like they have to overcome obstacles to win a man’s heart. They crave the challenge of capturing the interest of a man who has other women competing for his attention, and eventually prevailing over his grudging reluctance to award his committed exclusivity. The man who gives his emotional world away too easily robs women of the satisfaction of earning his love. Though you may be in love with her, don’t say it before she has said it. Show compassionate restraint for her need to struggle toward yin fulfillment. Inspire her to take the leap for you, and she’ll return the favor a thousandfold.

II. Make her jealous

Flirt with other women in front of her. Do not dissuade other women from flirting with you. Women will never admit this but jealousy excites them. The thought of you turning on another woman will arouse her sexually. No girl wants a man that no other woman wants. The partner who harnesses the gale storm of jealousy controls the direction of the relationship.

III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority

Forget all those romantic cliches of the leading man proclaiming his undying love for the woman who completes him. Despite whatever protestations to the contrary, women do not want to be “The One” or the center of a man’s existence. They in fact want to subordinate themselves to a worthy man’s life purpose, to help him achieve that purpose with their feminine support, and to follow the path he lays out. You must respect a woman’s integrity and not lie to her that she is “your everything”. She is not your everything, and if she is, she will soon not be anymore.

IV. Don’t play by her rules

If you allow a woman to make the rules she will resent you with a seething contempt even a rapist cannot inspire. The strongest woman and the most strident feminist wants to be led by, and to submit to, a more powerful man. Polarity is the core of a healthy loving relationship. She does not want the prerogative to walk all over you with her capricious demands and mercurial moods. Her emotions are a hurricane, her soul a saboteur. Think of yourself as a bulwark against her tempest. When she grasps for a pillar to steady herself against the whipping winds or yearns for an authority figure to foil her worst instincts, it is you who has to be there… strong, solid, unshakeable and immovable.

V. Adhere to the golden ratio

Give your woman 2/3 of everything she gives you. For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out. Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more. When she speaks, you reply with fewer words. When she emotes, you emote less. The idea behind the golden ratio is twofold — it establishes your greater value by making her chase you, and it demonstrates that you have the self-restraint to avoid getting swept up in her personal dramas. Refraining from reciprocating everything she does for you in equal measure instills in her the proper attitude of belief in your higher status. In her deepest loins it is what she truly wants.

VI. Keep her guessing

True to their inscrutable natures, women ask questions they don’t really want direct answers to. Woe be the man who plays it straight — his fate is the suffering of the beta. Evade, tease, obfuscate. She thrives when she has to imagine what you’re thinking about her, and withers when she knows exactly how you feel. A woman may want financial and family security, but she does not want passion security. In the same manner, when she has displeased you, punish swiftly, but when she has done you right, reward slowly. Reward her good behavior intermittently and unpredictably and she will never tire of working hard to please you.

VII. Always keep two in the kitty

Never allow yourself to be a “kept man”. A man with options is a man without need. It builds confidence and encourages boldness with women if there is another woman, a safety net, to catch you in case you slip and risk a breakup, divorce, or a lost prospect, leading to loneliness and a grinding dry spell. A woman knows once she has slept with a man she has abdicated a measure of her power; when she has fallen in love with him she has surrendered nearly all of it. But love is ephemeral and with time she may rediscover her power and threaten to leave you. It is her final trump card. Withdrawing all her love and all her body in an instant will rend your soul if you are faced with contemplating the empty abyss alone. Knowing there is another you can turn to for affection will fortify your will and satisfy your manhood.

VIII. Say you’re sorry only when absolutely necessary

Do not say you’re sorry for every wrong thing you do. It is a posture of submission that no man should reflexively adopt, no matter how alpha he is. Apologizing increases the demand for more apologies. She will come to expect your contrition, like a cat expects its meal at a set time each day. And then your value will lower in her eyes. Instead, if you have done something wrong, you should acknowledge your guilt in a glancing way without resorting to the actual words “I’m sorry.” Pull the Bill Clinton maneuver and say “Mistakes were made” or tell her you “feel bad” about what you did. You are granted two freebie “I’m sorry”s for the life of your relationship; use them wisely.

IX. Connect with her emotions

Set yourself apart from other men and connect with a woman’s emotional landscape. Her mind is an alien world that requires deft navigation to reach your rendevous. Frolic in the surf of emotions rather than the arid desert of logic. Be playful. Employ all your senses. Describe in lush detail scenarios to set her heart afire. Give your feelings freedom to roam. ROAM. Yes, that is a good word. You’re not on a linear path with her. You are ROAMING all over, taking her on an adventure. In this world, there is no need to finish thoughts or draw conclusions. There is only need to EXPERIENCE. You’re grabbing her hand and running with her down an infinite, labyrinthine alleyway with no end, laughing and letting your fingers glide on the cobblestone walls along the way.

X. Ignore her beauty

The man who trains his mind to subdue the reward centers of his brain when reflecting upon a beautiful female face will magically transform his interactions with women. His apprehension and self-consciousness will melt away, paving the path for more honest and self-possessed interactions with the objects of his desire. This is one reason why the greatest lotharios drown in more love than they can handle — through positive experiences with so many beautiful women they lose their awe of beauty and, in turn, their powerlessness under its spell. It will help you acquire the right frame of mind to stop using the words hot, cute, gorgeous, or beautiful to describe girls who turn you on. Instead, say to yourself “she’s interesting” or “she might be worth getting to know”. Never compliment a girl on her looks, especially not a girl you aren’t fucking. Turn off that part of your brain that wants to put them on pedestals. Further advanced training to reach this state of unawed Zen transcendence is to sleep with many MANY attractive women (try to avoid sleeping with a lot of ugly women if you don’t want to regress). Soon, a Jedi lover you will be.

XI. Be irrationally self-confident

No matter what your station in life, stride through the world without apology or excuse. It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog’s instinct for uncovering weakness in men; don’t make it easy for them. Self-confidence, warranted or not, triggers submissive emotional responses in women. Irrational self-confidence will get you more pussy than rational defeatism.

XII. Maximize your strengths, minimize your weaknesses

In the betterment of ourselves as men we attract women into our orbit. To accomplish this gravitational pull as painlessly and efficiently as possible, you must identify your natural talents and shortcomings and parcel your efforts accordingly. If you are a gifted jokester, don’t waste time and energy trying to raise your status in philosophical debate. If you write well but dance poorly, don’t kill yourself trying to expand your manly influence on the dancefloor. Your goal should be to attract women effortlessly, so play to your strengths no matter what they are; there is a groupie for every male endeavor. Except World of Warcraft.

XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little

Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don’t let a woman’s faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known. You don’t have to be an asshole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time.

XIV. Fuck her good

Fuck her like it’s your last fuck. And hers. Fuck her so good, so hard, so wantonly, so profligately that she is left a quivering, sparking mass of shaking flesh and sex fluids. Drain her of everything, then drain her some more. Kiss her all over, make love to her all night, and hold her close in the morning. Own her body, own her gratitude, own her love. If you don’t know how, learn to give her squirting orgasms.

XV. Maintain your state control

You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, sexual withdrawal, jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you and you will shelter her until her storm passes. She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you. When you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over her.

XVI. Never be afraid to lose her

You must not fear. Fear is the love-killer. Fear is the ego-triumph that brings abject loneliness. You will face your fear. You will permit it to pass over and through you. And when your ego-fear is gone you will turn and face your lover, and only your heart will remain. You will walk away from her when she has violated your integrity, and you will let her walk when her heart is closed to you. She who can destroy you, controls you. Don’t give her that power over yourself. Love yourself before you love her.


The closer you follow the letter of these commandments, the easier you will find and keep real, true unconditional love and happiness in your life.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/


[–]modTheRedPike[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (6 children)

Ruh roh. Teh snowflakes are triggered. They are calling our moms on us.

Get off of /r/all you alt right losers

Alt right? Are you an idiot? TRP is politically agnostic. I'm sure there are some posters here that are full on bring back the Fuhrer. I guarantee you there are posters that lost family members in the Holocaust. I would agree that as an average (lets' play made-up statistics like everyone else!) there is probably an American political right lean to higher percentage of posters. Going full retard and bucketing the sub into a political camp because of this is moronic. Our mission is not political. Take your partisan horseshit, ball it up and shove it up your ass. Some of us just want to talk about other stuff.

Time to fumigate the place.

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[–]drpeppersucks 81 points82 points  (0 children)

Sounds like he was a great mentor. This is what most men have lacked in their lives.

[–]123InigoMontoya123 23 points24 points  (2 children)

I was raised very similarly by a rough father and a fiery mother. I have three brothers and no sisters. I am personally adept at leading men (I was the oldest brother) and forming male bonds, but have never been able to keep a female relationship without plating/fucking her. I've been called an asshole many times over due to my unyielding boundaries and I often wonder how different I would be if there was a girl sibling to learn from while growing up.

My questions to you are: did you grow up with any sisters, or was it only brothers? How have/haven't your lessons from your siblings affected your skills/interactions with women?

[–]thepesterman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One thing I learnt from my older sister is that women don't learn from their mistakes, I learnt a lot from her mistakes which meant that in the eyes of our parents I was the good child never getting in trouble or doing bad things whereas in fact I was the one doing drugs and getting drunk at 14 but I had learnt to manage my parents image of me.

[–]TheMoreYouKnowRight 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Emotional tokens - i like that.

[–]swingshift6381 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just described my pops to a T. Lucky for us we had good role models

[–]bakachelera 177 points178 points  (11 children)

I have been wrong almost all of my life. Thank you, but somehow now I cringe when I look into my past.

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    [–]bakachelera 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    Lmao my dude, that was another revelation, thank you too I should hang over here more often, Im sure this is gonna be good for my development as a healthier man. And Im also sure the red pill is not for everyone. Some of my friends are incels and whenever they learn something new about life they tend to just repeat the bad words and not completely learn the message. I get where you are going, people who realize their past mistakes are people who are willing to get now in the right path.

    [–]Killing__Time_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I'm excited about the future, because I will definitely find things that I do now that will make me cringe in the future. Thank you, my brother.

    [–]FOODYUMONION 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    We were all noobs once

    [–]Vincent541 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    The fact that you acknowledge your mistakes in the past shows that you've made progress.

    [–]BurnoutRS 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    eventually you'll hardly cringe at all when you look back. You'll come to understand cringe as a necessary part of the process. We are sensory machines, reliant on feedback to determine our course of action. There are secondary means of learning things. You might see a tv show where a kid gives his crush a bunch of gifts and looks like a loser. That can lead you in the right direction. Until you have that primary learning experience though, you cant really know.

    Cringe has a biological function. A higher social standing is better access to mates, food, etc. So its good that your brain/body will punish you for being a social fuckwit to ensure you dont do it again. "Oh god I was so cringey" becomes "thank god I was so cringey, recognized it eventually and stopped that shit"

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    It was good learning. Men who have never been BP often aspire to it.... Chad fucks his way through college then settles down and "does the right thing" with a girl at 25.

    A lot of very alpha men with great prospects in life settle down early and then get anally fucked with a bargepole over the course of the rest of their relationship.

    If you discover TRP and can look back at the impact the BP lies had on your life you will never be tempted to go back to them.

    [–]DaBrokenMeta 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Without those things, you wouldn't have learned what you know now. Be grateful, mistakes and all

    [–]RedRogue26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I could copy and paste the same comment. I cringe looking back at my old ways, a painful trip it’s been. But certainly worth it.

    [–]2littleblacktruck 87 points88 points  (17 children)

    So now we're just posting Sidebar materials for upvotes? That's what we're doing?

    [–]3LiveAFTSOV 48 points49 points  (1 child)

    Was thinking the same thing.

    On the bright side, this post has exposed a lot of betas or other bloops who haven't swallowed the pill.

    [–]3itiswr1tten 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    The reality is in a 200k+ nearing 300k community most people don't touch the sidebar. They're here for the People Magazine content and ADD of checking it every day. Posting this kind of stuff and having it explode to the top is GREAT. It is proof the underlying fundamentals are still the resonant and important material that created the philosophy.

    I'd rather roll my eyes at seeing this once a month than the 17th iteration of some newb idiot's FR on his buffer Monk Mode.

    [–]2littleblacktruck 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    I guess I'll just copypasta Solomon II blog and rake in the karma.

    [–]iamriviera 13 points14 points  (2 children)

    I'm curious too. I already reported this, this is just a copypaste of sidebar material, with two lines of original commentary by the OP. I'm not sure if plagiarism is allowed.

    The user below commented that at least this helps newbies who haven't read the sidebar, but this begs the question: should we just excuse newbies from reading the sidebar?

    [–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    If you’re not willing to study the material, I have no compassion when you fail the test.

    [–]modTheRedPike[M] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

    In general, that's not a good idea and I recommend against doing it unless you have something new to add. However when the post AND comments further the overall tone of the sub, we will let it go.

    So, as an example, your comment is a Concern Troll and this a bannable offense. However what you actually did was get important information out there about what we usually think about these posts. So we definitely appreciate this comment.

    Yes, I'm being a bit overly dramatic for the sake of illustration. You're good.

    [–]2littleblacktruck 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    No trolling in any sense, but certainly concern. TRP isn't a karma farm and we need to guard content with utmost vigilance to serve these young men who need guidance. If we can corral them to the sidebar, we should do so at every opportunity. Do what you see fit.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillcad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Any exposure to CH is a very good thing

    [–]3itiswr1tten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    At almost 300k users this repost of the fundamentals is way better than 95% of the daily ephemeral content. The fact it was massively upvoted actually is a positive response, IMO. The sidebar feels like "work". Clicking the top post is just browsing and "discovering" gold. Great outcome for everyone even if you and I get it.

    [–]1TrenGod37 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I see 618 people and counting haven’t even opened the sidebar

    [–]Bad_nuggets69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Was wondering how long it would take for this to get posted.

    My thoughts exactly.

    [–]Salted_Pretzel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It's a nice refresher. Being reminded of the basics always help.

    [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (4 children)

    Yeah. This has been around for years, why tf is the post 5 hrs old and getting upvotes like it's new groundbreaking theory that was written yesterday?

    [–]3LiveAFTSOV 27 points28 points  (2 children)

    Because the sub is expanding and many new comers are guys looking for a quick fix and they completely ignore the side bar and the classics.

    But hell yeah youre right, this is old. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.

    [–]modTheRedPike[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    ^ what he said. But in general be careful about just reposting old stuff.

    [–]EdViews 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Probably because the OG who posted this noticed how many BPers are infiltrating the subreddit. I think this comment section is proof of that.

    [–]oliseo 34 points35 points  (3 children)

    Be an independent Man who has the discipline and focus to follow their own goals. A Man who has no need to compare themselves to others as they have a deep enough emotional/intellectual well to draw upon, and large enough fields of spirituality to sustain them through the harshest of Winters with enough left over to feed an entire village. A Man who understands his integrity is for his own benefit, and not for others around him. A Man who is sure and true to himself, can never be fooled, or led astray. A Man who knows that the best way to win is to play his own games with his own rules and get others to play his game rather than to engage in others games and their rules. A Man who knows he cannot deny his emotions any more than a sailor can deny the wind is both a foe and a friend, instead he learns to navigate around his emotions and to bend their strength to propel him forward towards his own destination rather than floundering without any. A Man who accepts the only thing in life he truly has control of in life is how he reacts to it is a smart Man, a truly Wise Man understands that even that is sometimes out of his control.

    [–]AlfalfaMail 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Very well worded.

    [–]mleko69 46 points47 points  (14 children)

    Speaking of pt. 14. Good foreplay beats everything. Your dick has only one muscle, but your hands, mouth and tongue have a fuckload of them - what means more control over what you do to her sexually sensitive spots, what means more control over her pleasure.

    I highly recommend to watch "How To Eat Pussy Like A Champ". In this almost 2 hour movie tutors, that is porn stars, share their tips and tricks on how to find a G spot, how to uncover clitoris, what works best when you stimulate her breasts, etc.

    As soon as I tried these tricks on my plate she told me, that if other girls knew how good I am I would be drowning in pussy, lol. Sex is an amazing tool. You may make some mistakes throughout the day, but when you give her unimaginably good fucking she'll forget everything.

    (edit: grammar, and spelling)

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 23 points24 points  (6 children)

    As soon as I tried these tricks on my plate she told me, that if other girls knew how good I am I would be drowning in pussy, lol.

    She could tell you the same about your cute dad bod, how great you defer to women, and how well you treat her with poems and expensive dinners.

    [–]mleko69 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    You seem to underestimate the benefits of being a skilled lover. I don't understand why though.

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    You seem to underestimate the subtle betafication that's at play here

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    I'm not debating the importance of being a skilled lover, I'm only trying to uproot from your mind the nefarious blue-pill habit of listening to what women say they want and taking this as evidence of what they actually want.

    Next time, I want to read from you:

    As soon as I tried these tricks on my girl, she started sending me more nudes / she's been wanting to catch up more often / she's been giving me more unexpected BJs...

    About eating pussy itself, I am in two minds about it. On one side, I realize the important to make her enjoy sex with you. On the other side, the symbolism of it is terribly beta/subservient (aka, sexually unattractive) and so possibly bad on the long-term.

    [–]Da_RectumWrecker 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Did you just imply that eating pussy may be beta? I mean, you have the EC tag and I'm not supposed to question you, but my dude.... One of the great pleasures in life is when a girl gives you her "good pussy" instead of the starfish sex she gives other guys. Eating pussy is one of my main (not the only) methods of getting her to give that to me.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    The EC tag doesn't imply you can't question what I say, only that you should pay attention to my comments because I've been deemed to understand TRP theory well. In other words, if you disagree with me, just ask yourself why would I say what I say.

    My girls enthusiastically get down on me without my having to ask them, several times during a session, and without my having to eat them out first. I do it occasionally, if I feel like it on the moment. It's not a problem for them. What they want is to please me, and to get the D as soon as possible despite my teasing them. None of this is starfish sex.

    [–]Mickleton_Mouseroo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Would probably crush his frail little ego for him to admit that another man knows how to fuck better (and in it’s entirety) than he can. Jokes aside, I agree that learning how to fuck a woman correctly using everything you got reaps soooo many benefits, it’s similar to the idea of using multiple locations on a date to make it seem like there is more experiences between you and your woman, but in this scenario you overwhelm them with different sensations, making them even more attracted to you.

    [–]greenricegod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I never thought I’d be so interested watch a movie like that.. going to check it out later

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Speaking of pt. 14. Good foreplay beats everything. Your dick has only one muscle, but your hands, mouth and tongue have a fuckload of them - what means more control over what you do to her sexually sensitive spots, what means more control over her pleasure.

    You are focused wayyyyyyyyyyy too much on her.

    The best foreplay is being with a hot man - that's all that's needed to turn her on, she doesn't need much foreplay with Chad. Don't forget this when you're spending 30 minutes doing little more than giving her attention.

    As soon as I tried these tricks on my plate she told me, that if other girls knew how good I am I would be drowning in pussy.

    She's not your "plate" if she's the only girl you're seeing.

    Women say these sort of things to encourage your behaviour. It's manipulation. Don't let her massage your ego like this.

    You may make some mistakes throughout the day, but when you give her unimaginably good fucking she'll forget everything.

    True that.

    [–]mleko69 17 points18 points  (2 children)

    So now even giving orgasms to girls is beta? This is a bit too much for me. I guess I'll have to sleep with it to refresh my mind.

    [–]itsdir0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    No dude. You didn't get anything. It is not beta. You have to fuck her good. What they mean is that you shouldn't give their pleasure more priority than yours. You are the man. You are the dominant. Do what you want with her whenever you want or feel.

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      [–]modTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Automod nuke. Don't hotlink the sub; use archive.is. Don't fix the comment just put up a new one. I think it's helpful.

      [–]AlonsoHV 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      If you do all of this for a woman, shes the one winning.

      [–]FOODYUMONION 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Applies to looking for jobs/careers, accommodation, friends etc. Everyone will pick up on desperation, scarcity vs abundance. Have options in everything you do

      [–]Theo_Stormchaser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Why is this not top comment?

      [–]Palikan27 21 points22 points  (2 children)

      Too much gaming hurt relationships. I have lost contact with many girls cause i gave the impression that i am a womaniser. Unfortunately, hook up is not so popular where i live.

      [–]oliseo 19 points20 points  (0 children)

      Why punish yourself for the actions of others. It is no fault of yours. If hook ups are frowned upon, that is the culture you live in aka the collective opinion of others.

      You've lost contact with these Women because they wanted you to change, they were not happy with you and they wanted to bend you to their will. Do you realistically believe this would gain you their respect if you did submit yourself? Personal experience has taught me otherwise.

      Perhaps they decided to lost contact as they could sense your indecision, that you lacked the self belief, and thus the confidence to believe in yourself, and they sense that you blame yourself for the actions of others outside of any single Mans control. Women have supranational instincts and the ability to weed out Men with self doubts are almost magical.

      If hook ups are frowned up, why not consider taking many lovers then. Think differently

      [–]ThePantsThief 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      This post isn't saying you should come off as a womanizer. It's vague enough that you can see it either way, and choose what works best for you.

      The way I read it is that it simply tells me to be confident in my ability to keep my woman around, or at least confident in my ability to find a new one, should she leave me. Having options doesn't have to mean having a girl on the side at the ready.

      [–]3LiveAFTSOV 21 points22 points  (1 child)

      Classic post by a prominent member of the manosphere, Heartiste. Pretty sure these exact laws are in the side bar hand book somewhere

      Edit: Glad this classic was posted - it's exposing alot of the bloopillers and newbies who havent fully taken the pill.

      [–]SearchLightsInc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      And looking at the thread i posted there, they never will.

      They seem unconvinced these commandments will work, wonder why that is?

      [–]thunderbeyond 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Appreciated. Everyone needs a reminder of the rules.

      [–]Avesatanie 2 points3 points  (7 children)

      I honestly find hard to grasp the IX commandment. Like, what I'm supposed to do?

      [–]3LiveAFTSOV 32 points33 points  (6 children)

      Connecting to her emotions - Women are emotional creatures and crave emotional stiumlation.

      That means you need to make her feel.

      Doesn't have to be good. You just have to make her FEEL.

      Give her some drama, give her some love, give her some hate. Take her on an emotional roller coaster ride - without making yourself to look like a bitch.

      Prank her. Tease her. Randomly dance with her in your house. Surprise her with doggystyle sex in a public bathroom.

      Spike her emotions.

      I stand against being "stoic" with women. You should be stoic in regards to women.

      To clarify, be stoic and calm/okay with her leaving or cheating. It may happen. Accept it and be okay with it.

      But when you're with her, don't be some super serious rock who has no fun. Take her out, push her into the pool. Like I said, spike her emotions.

      Have fun with the bitch. Make her feel ANYTHING other than boredom.

      It's better to have your girl angry than bored. Remember that.

      [–]Avesatanie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      wow, thanks, that makes sense

      [–]1redhawkes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      This is the correct answer. I've seen too many guys misinterpret this as being an emotional tampon or playing her shrink.

      Give her the emotional rollercoaster ride, but don't ride it yourself.

      [–]telytuby 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Nice explanation man, spot on

      [–]moltenw 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      give her some drama etc etc

      isnt that the opposite of what you want, though? why would you want drama in your relationships/ with your plates? and isn't this against stoicism principles or even just "be her rock" ?

      conflicting advice regarding these 2, would like this explained.

      [–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Your girl is gonna start drama with you. I take premprmtive action and start random drama with her. Literally she will tell me she wants to eat candy. I say no candy. She says YES CANDY. And we yell, wrestle, then cuddle and fuck.

      Then she says "why do u have to be like that"

      Like I said he stoic in regards to women. Not with women

      Be her rock as in do not show weakness.

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Manufactured drama FTW. It's a great tool I use often to build DEVI proactively (from sex god method)

      [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (8 children)

      16 should be 1. That's the basis for all the following behavior.

      [–]FearGarbhArMait 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      He did right. It is 16th so you read the all encompassing last.

      [–]Persaeus 8 points9 points  (5 children)

      It’s called the coup de gra

      [–]fedja 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      coup de grâce, and pronounced coo de gra

      French is a bitch to write, so when you do, google it to make sure you have it correct. Same goes for latin. :)

      [–]Nootrophic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It's pronounced "Ku The Grawss", with the SS sound at the end of grace, like glass. The A of Grace is pronounced like AH or AW.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      ooo-waa (French shocked voice)

      [–]Tenth_10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      More like "Wooah".
      Source : I'm French. Ha ha. :)

      [–]_MAMBAK_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      "Coup de grâce", my friend.

      [–]HottIcedTea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I feel like lots of guys will have trouble with 16. Especially in first relationship situations. Once you truly reach the state of not caring though, the other steps follow so naturally

      [–]Lagalmeslam 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      that Dune reference could not be more fitting.

      [–]Nootrophic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Mother, it's Paul !

      Paul has swallowed the red pill ! 😢

      FAAAAAATHER, THE DREAMER IS AWAKENING!!!!! 😲

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      [–]lapeparoja 7 points8 points  (7 children)

      What shit is this? Why are you on +16? What is happening to this subreddit? 90%chance that you are a woman, 10% you are a man, with a woman level testosterone.

      [–]3LiveAFTSOV 8 points9 points  (5 children)

      This post is currently being raided by the bluepill sub brigade.

      Combine that with a surplus of new users who downvote red pill truth cus of "muh soggy knee" and you get this bullshit that gets upvoted.

      It's why mods say dont just look at upvotes. Look at the flairs. Compare the comment to what's being said by the side bar.

      You have to hear your own truth in the endless autistic noise.

      [–]Viramont 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I really don’t understand why this sub isn’t private

      [–]Endorsed ContributorFeralRed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Wheat and chaff....

      The reason this sub exists and is growing is that increasing numbers of men are realizing that their lives are not ideal...

      “We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.”

      So that's what we get here.

      Pissed off confused motherfuckers that have played by "the rules" but stiil got fucked because the rules are there for control of the masses, not individual success, the blooptards that rail against this "rejection of the rules" because they're rules, and to reject society's rules is bad, and the curious.

      This infusion creates both an unending stream of bullshit and a precious few who will "get it".

      We are here for the wheat. Good fresh food is required for a village to survive.

      Winnowing out the chaff is a necessary part of removing the useless parts from the useful. Also known as threshing. Where you beat the mass until the lightweight useless shit gets blown away.

      [–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      Can you logically explain why not being afraid to lose a woman is bad advice?

      I'm curious for your logic behind that, and I'm eagerly awaiting your response.

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        [–]3LiveAFTSOV 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        So you completely dodge the conversation.

        The question is not "what happens in stable relationships?"

        The question is, "How is not being afraid to lose a woman bad advice?"

        because they respect and know the other person isn't going to cheat on them, and never will.

        And never will

        Kinda like how marriages start with respectful spouses, and end when death does them part like they both agreed upon?

        Oh wait... but 50% of marriages end in divorce... 80% of those initiated by the woman...

        I suppose you could spin that around and say "Death DID do them part... it was the death of their attraction!"

        [–]Endorsed ContributorFeralRed -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Why don't you read rule zero before posting?

        We're not interested in debate and blooper insults.

        Stable relationship - no such thing

        Worry about cheating - AWALT

        Wake up or go away.... Don't care which.

        TRP's mission is to discuss men's identity, sexual strategy, and options in the context of our current global culture for the benefit of men. Anyone who does not share that goal will be banned the instant we detect them. We are not interested in debating or defending our experiences to those who disagree with the red pill, nor do we want to clog up our threads defending the morality of our choices.

        [–]iamtheswoop 4 points5 points  (16 children)

        This is in the sidebar. You know what sub you're on right?... If this is shit advice what's better advice?

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          [–]ThePantsThief -1 points0 points  (7 children)

          I see you don't believe in traditional gender roles.

          [–]CryptidCodex 4 points5 points  (6 children)

          There's a difference between being a normal fucking person, and making every second an act where you play Mr.Macho. You and your relationship will fail the second the facade of whatever person you're pretending to be crumbles.

          [–]ThePantsThief 7 points8 points  (5 children)

          You are taking the post too literally. You don't have to be "Mr. Macho" 24/7. You just need to avoid being indecisive and unsure of yourself at all times. Being sure of yourself all the time doesn't have to mean being over-confident all the time.

          You and your relationship will fail the second the facade of whatever person you're pretending to be crumbles.

          It's also about teaching yourself to be this confident person. You might have to pretend at first, but eventually it will become you. And if you can't learn to be confident, and your facade continues to crumble, you won't be able to hold onto any desirable woman anyway.

          Learn to read between the lines, brother.

          [–]CryptidCodex -1 points0 points  (4 children)

          The advice literally states "be irrationally self confident", "Don't say sorry unless you have to" and "maintain state control". That isn't normal confidence, that's false confidence.

          [–]ThePantsThief 3 points4 points  (3 children)

          You're taking the post too literally

          The advice literally states [literal advice]

          I don't know what I can say without repeating myself. Don't take it literally. Read between the lines, and tailor the advice to your own needs. Some guys need to be told to be over-confident to help boost their ability to be confident. If you don't, and you're already somewhat confident, then you can ignore it.


          You shouldn't apologize unless you really have to. And if you find yourself needing to apologize, if you're constantly doing things that warrant apologies or if you're saying sorry when you haven't really done anything wrong, you have some work to do on yourself. Wouldn't you agree?

          [–]CryptidCodex -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

          Kinda shitty advise if you need to read between the lines and not take it literally, that's not how advice is supposed to work

          [–]ThePantsThief 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          That's how all of TRP works. That's even how the Bible works at times.

          What is obvious to some may not be obvious to others; you can't write good life advice in a way that everyone will understand, short of writing an actual novel on the topic.

          Are you new here? Genuinely curious, not trying to sound standoff-ish.

          [–]FimbleEnterprises 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          That's literally how advice has always worked. The word you're looking for is, "procedure."

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          [–]ThePantsThief 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          I don't often read comments on TRP.

          Are there usually a plethora of blue-pill comments like this one? By users who take advice at face-value, and can't see how they might adjust and apply this advice to their own lives? Users who don't understand what AWALT means? (Not what the acronym says)

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          How the fuck are blue pillers (like me) going to turn red pillers if they are not allowed to ask here about these things? They'll just magically accept the info tab?

          [–]ThePantsThief 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          You have to at least be open to discussion. You seem to be, the person I replied to seems not. He doesn't ask a question, or even point out what he specifically thinks to be bad advice. He's here to troll, not to learn.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          Ah I fucked up mate. I use Reddit on phone and was confused as who you were replying to and thought it was my comment. Go ahead.

          [–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          What are you talking about little bloopster? If you have 2 pretties in the kitty, you can never been alone!

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (10 children)

          To be honest, carrying out TRP in verbatim is already causing that.

          I think the list is good. It might not apply to all women, but in the general sense probably.

          [–]3LiveAFTSOV 8 points9 points  (9 children)

          Are you trying to suggest, NAWALT?

          [–]ThePantsThief 3 points4 points  (3 children)

          I mean, AWALT doesn't literally mean we think all women are the same. Are you trying to suggest it does?

          [–]3LiveAFTSOV -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

          AWALT = potentials and subconcious/psychological/biological/sexual reactions + impulses

          There may be different "types" and "shapes" of women, but they all carry the same firmware and software of "hypergamy 1.0" from prehistoric caveman and tribal days.

          So like I said, they all will react the same way to a hot buff guy walking into the room and chatting with them.

          From there, it becomes a personal difference whether she's gonna tell him to go away cus she's got a man, if she's gonna flirt with him, slip him a number, or drop to her knees and suck him off right then and there.

          but they will all be turned on.

          [–]ThePantsThief 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          My point was that AWALT means knowing there are exceptions to the rules, but that the exceptions aren't worth considering. Which is what you seemed to be getting at in hindsight.

          Anyway, you seem to understand it. I thought your original comment was sarcastic, never mind!

          [–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          The exceptions prove the rule!

          [–]Toxik6 1 point2 points  (5 children)

          You can never compliment beauty??

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            [–]Toxik6 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Thanks for the info. Good to know. Does this apply if you’re in a LTR?

            [–]duntoon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            You can. But it's mainly applicable to 6-8s. If she's a 9+, she knows she's beautiful. If she's 5 or below, she won't believe you.

            [–]Toxik6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Only after approval also right Thanks for the info

            [–]redpill_scientist92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Ive been thinking about #4 alot lately. This is so glaringly obvious. I have a friend who has to ask his wife when he can do anything. Recently a poker night got cancelled because the wife wants to be home so "She can watch the cat" in other words so she can watch my friends every move. Needless to say, his marriage is in shambles.

            [–]crespo_modesto 1 point2 points  (4 children)

            How do you ignore beauty. Is it a deliberate lie to yourself or can you actually train yourself to ignore beauty(how?).

            I guess when you have more important things going on in your life than trying to chase down women then it'll happen naturally.

            [–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            After I was in the game a while, pretty girls just became pretty girls. They weren’t anything special, they weren’t really different from any other girl, it’s just that you could add “pretty” to the list of descriptors. You stop being intimidated by her beauty, or blinded to her toxicity because of it. Lately I’ve realized that I don’t even think in terms of numbers any more as far as rating a woman’s physical attractiveness. There’s no “She was a 7 but her friend was a 9.” Or whatever. There’s just “pretty,” “average,” and “not pretty.” All the girls that fall under one of those groups are interchangeable with every other girl in that group, looks-wise. So a pretty girl is just another pretty girl.

            [–]crespo_modesto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I've got this bad segregation problem where I just can't seem to operate with women other than bare minimum like acknowledge their existence/courtesy and what not. But it's not like "she's one of the guys" sort of thing. Which I'm not saying that's what should happen but yeah. It's like "If I don't have business with them, I don't interact with them."

            Yes I am quite single.

            [–]Lib3rtarianSocialist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Yes, that last line too, and when you're complimenting a girl on her beauty she hears things similar to that all the time. A comment above said that it puts you in the same beta category. You should have other things to talk about or think about.

            [–]crespo_modesto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Yeap I still suffer from that, slave. tsk tsk

            [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Truth is rarely welcomed.

            I now follow these tenets and have a wonderful relationship with my amazing gf. Ignore these tips and start counting down to when she moves on...and it won't be on your terms, believe me.

            [–]RightHandedCube 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I read this years ago. I used to to know these too. Man do I regret ever having forgotten them. It's good to be back, I've got a lot of catching up to do.

            [–]rallfreedom 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            Lot of beta minds in the comments

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            [–]dingleburry_joe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            I imagine Heartiste, after thus hearing the word of the Red Pill Gods, coming down the mountain saying "Here ye my brothers, I hold these 16 Commandments, so that you shalt go forth, and slay poon." and all the bros rejoiced and began to lift.

            I haven't read this since I first started on here and damn does it still relate. It's pure gold. I will try to read this more often.

            [–]WarViper1337 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Damn this post really brings out all the blue pillers who troll around here thinking they are the shit. These are words that every man should live by. They will make you successful in more than just relationships with women.

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              [–]drooleybob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              How does one carry out VII?

              [–]bennybrucie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              newbie Q: regarding X, how can you really intiate push-pull w/out acknowledging this? In terms of approaching atleast.

              [–]chasemyers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Anyone else catch the cribbage reference?

              [–]the_ting_goes_skrra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              IX. Connect with her emotions

              Didn't completely understand this one. Shouldn't we have a measure of emotional detachment?

              [–]DrExtra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Sometimes you can be "too masculine". But if a woman dips out on you for those reason it just shows you that she couldn't handle a real man. My ex was extremely mentally weak and super fucking sensitive, has anxiety and depression and can turn the smallest misinterpretations into a full out WAR. My ex left me because of financial issues, but she was the one laying around the house while Im the one working. Yeah...okay, but she also said she mainly resented me for my insensitivity and lack of emotion. Yeah I had a extremely stoic and unemotional Dad and I guess I inherited that later on in my life... Basically said my masculinity was toxic and I need to work on that. Said I never apologized. She also had jealousy issues and understood that women knew I was a alpha male that didn't have to do shit. Now I swear women are fucked up creatures. They know the don't make any sense and naturally use their emotions to manipulate. During our breakup I did a complete 180 and threw away my pride and dignity trying to get her back. Started trying to make it work. NEVER DO THAT. Now the same guy who was "emotionally hardened" overwhelmed his ex by following his heart for the first time. NEVER FOLLOW YOUR HEART. FOLLOW YOUR MIND. I learned from my mistakes but now I'm going back to being a tough, heartless bastard. I'm growing for myself and getting back in touch thanks to this subreddit. Please after the break up I realized how good I was at attracting women. The less you do when talking to a woman the more you do.

              [–]betrue2thyself 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Love the litany against fear Dune reference. I actually have used that at various times in my life to mentally prepare myself; it works surprisingly well!!

              [–]urmom504020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Do NOT flirt with other women in front of her. That's just hurtful

              [–]ZeroSixNiner -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

              Wow. It's a repost of a known list of RP precepts and it seems to have triggered the fuck out of people. Did this get crossposted? I haven't seen this level of blooper hamstering on anything posted recently.

              [–]tearsofgaia -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

              Saved me right when I realised I was going down the beta spiral.

              Could've had at least three women this weekend, but I was longing for one and spent last night all alone.

              Next time I'll have something to read to remind me how to keep my frame and why. Magnificent work.

              [–]1dk_what_im_doing -1 points0 points  (1 child)

              Making her jealous is childish and immature. If you are in a committed relationship, flirting with others is uncalled for.

              [–]JohnIan101 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              There are levels of flirting, not singular.

              And as for the first; isn't the goal to make her want you - to be good enough for exclusivity? To earn her spot.

              [–]courtesy_flush_plz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

              I heard to only tell them they're beautiful etc literally during sex... its called anchoring or something right?

              [–]Lib3rtarianSocialist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              That concept sounds interesting. What is the reasoning?

              [–]courtesy_flush_plz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              because giving compliments to a woman about her beauty in other situations will hurt the attraction. It is not behavior of an indifferent alpha who is on his own adventure & doing his own thing,

              It is the behavior & phrase typical of a desperate, chasing beta...

              extreme horizons in the examples I listed? most likely yes.

              Like giving a dog a treat after its done the trick, perhaps. Im sure a more seasoned RP will step in any time & add to this/tell me to shutup

              [–]eluethero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              About the apologizing part;

              Guys of course you do not need apologize for everything but for the big mistakes not apologizing might be temporary gain of power in relationship yet in long run it will not work.

              Sacrifices shall be made unless the mate is as near as 2 or 3 moves ahead. Wasting a piece like that will cause more harm than good in long run.

              [–]thepontiff_ -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

              This is such a good read I’m speechless as to what to comment.

              [–]1TrenGod37 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Read the sidebar dick. It’s one of the first things on it

              [–]CC-c -1 points0 points  (2 children)

              Can I find them into "the book of Pook" or they're a summary of one of Pook's post?

               

              To be honest, I always missed the XIV point. How can I improve in that area if I have few opportunities?

              [–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              The book of Pook is written by a guy named pook.

              These commandments of POON are written by manosphere blogger, heartiste.

              Click the link at the bottom of the OP

              [–]CC-c 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              oh Jesus. I thought it was just an error of typing...
              thanks:)

              [–]JezebeltheQueen5656 -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

              I found the first draft notes...

              I. Never say ‘I Love You’ first

              Remember, you are a scared manbaby and your emotions are ludicrously fragile. I mean, what if she didn't say it back, bro?

              II. Make her jealous

              Feel free to skip this, you are so galactically unappealing it is almost certain no one will ever feel jealous of anything you do.

              III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority

              You are not a hopeless loser on a fast track to nowhere. You are an awesome Sex Soldier on a cool "Mission", 'kay?

              IV. Don’t play by her rules

              Even when they exactly align with what you want. Remember; it's never too soon to let The Red Pill start ruining your life.

              V. Adhere to the golden ratio

              But first, someone tell me what the Golden Ration is? I saw it in some Soy Boy's coffee table architecture book, and I have no idea what it means.

              VI. Keep her guessing

              This should be easy. Since TRP makes zero sense, we're guessing half the time anyway.

              VII. Always keep two in the kitty

              And one in the bush. Also some in the hand. And up a tree. A pear tree. With that partridge. Two partridges. Have sex with partridges!

              VIII. Say you’re sorry only when absolutely necessary

              Like when she's about to leave you and you suddenly realize you'll die alone.

              IX. Connect with her emotions

              May as well connect with someone's, because God knows, you're utterly alienated from your own.

              X. Ignore her beauty

              Any woman's appeal is a deliberate and evil plot to make you feel bad for finding someone attractive. If ignoring it doesn't work, try poking yourself in the eyes with a spoon.

              XI. Be irrationally self-confident

              Again, super easy. TRPing is more irrational than, say, Flat Earthing anyway, right?

              XII. Maximize your strengths, minimize your weaknesses

              Strengths; hanging out in echo chambers. Weaknesses; reality.

              XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little

              This is just XI with different words. We're deep-thinking philosophers!!

              XIV. Fuck her good

              Like TRPing has fucked you!

              So actually "fuck her badly" is more appropriate.

              That's the only way you know how, right?

              You got this.

              XV. Maintain your state control

              Be like a cold, dead robot. Like all successful, happy, functional adults. Like, y'know ... that one guy?

              XVI. Never be afraid to lose her

              I mean, she's imaginary anyway. "She lives in Canada".

              [–]subgamer90 8 points9 points  (1 child)

              Well, you get a "C" for effort at least. So much for women trying to be funny

              [–]JezebeltheQueen5656 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

              C, really? u jelly u lack witt?

              [–]VoidInvincible -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

              Hahahahahahahahahah. You should be a comedian.

              [–]thegodofwar74 -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

              Forgive the noob question, but what's the difference between Pook and Poon?

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