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Red Pill ExampleWoman drops boyfriend because he lives frugally. Later finds out that he's a heir to a fortune based on oil. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Schrodingersdawg

Warning, extreme hamstering ahead.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20141119021804/https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/2kg4c5/someone_please_help_make_sense_of_my_exboyfriends/

New link because redditlog is kill

It's amazing how, if you read her post, she completely flips the script and blames him for not telling her anything. Even though she left him because he "lacked career/life ambition", it's his fault for not revealing his wealth.

Some gems:

I have Facebook and am on it every day, usually when work is slow.

Work is slow every day? I wonder what this woman does for a living? Probably HR or some other liberal arts degree related job.

Lately my newsfeed has been filled with my peers getting married, buying houses, having babies, and other various accolades. I can't help but feel jealous by this; it seems like everyone but me is making significant gains in their lives and relationships.

Accolades. Gains. It's almost as if she's viewing this as a videogame and wants the high score.

Three weeks ago, after seeing a girl I knew from high school buy her 3rd property with her husband, it felt like my relationship with Will was juvenile and had no future.

Oh, the joys of social media. Apparently because all her friends are doing it, she decided she had to do it too! Apparently her boyfriend should be judged against her friends' boyfriends / husbands! Could you imagine how that would go over if it was the other way around. I can imagine some Jizzabel cat lady now:

"But honey, Jack's girlfriend blows him every morning." HOW DARE THIS SHITLORD COMPARE HER TO ANOTHER WOMAN? WOMAN ARE NOT JUST INTERCHANGABLE SEX OBJECTS...

after he served me potato soup for dinner and was torrenting a documentary for us to watch later

She says that to make him sound cheap, but if the dude can cook, has money, and knows how to save it instead of throwing it away and living in a perpetual cycle of credit card debt like so many Americans.

When I finished talking, he said "fine by me" and asked me to leave. I went to hug him on my way out, instead he just guided me out the door and slammed it shut behind him.

I haven't heard a fucking word from Will, even after texting him multiple times and calling him once.

Dude realizes she's not the one for him, makes a clean break. Respect to him.

To this, one friend chuckled to himself and walked away. I asked the other friend WTF

Sounds like Will's dealt a few gold diggers in his time.

If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?

And that is an example of how widespread BP mentality has become in our world. We are to be seen as nothing more than walking wallets.

Surprisingly, the commentators rip her to shreds.


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[–]asdfghjkltyu[🍰] 50 points51 points  (15 children)

All of the "I want motivated men" talk is basically just hamster for "I want someone who can earn money for me". Women will sometimes settle short term on someone who isn't currently wealthy as long as they have prospect of becoming wealthy long term. Even if he is currently a bum you can bet if they knew he'd be in a 5 figure job in 5 years time women would be lining up.

[–]CSMastermind 26 points27 points  (11 children)

5 figure job

That's not exactly an accomplishment .....

[–]sidewalkchalked 71 points72 points  (0 children)

I'm a ten-thousandaire and I disagree.

[–]trped 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Depends where you live. In Europe €60k+ is pretty good.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Sorry, not everybody can get a 6 figure job.

[–]CSMastermind 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I understand that, I'm just saying 5 figures is a pretty low threshold. Making $10,000 / year is something everyone should be able to do. And not something I think people would be lining up for.

[–]1independentmale 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You'd be surprised. I see a lot of hot acquaintances on Facebook dating complete bums who are barely holding down part time jobs.

[–]CSMastermind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks, Money, Status right? I'd assume they aren't dating those guys for their money.

[–]ont_anon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed, but no one should expect to be taken seriously if they live in a first-world country and brag about/announce that they're making a 5 figure job. I mean, yes, making $99,999/year is impressive, but most 5 figure earners aren't in that part of the stratosphere.

[–]asdfghjkltyu[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I confused the '5, 6" figures stuff.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah I was agreeing with her about how he has no motivation and that would be turn off for me as well if a woman was that lazy - but now it's all about the money. This guy has the exact same motivation/ambition yet now she wants back in. Not a gold digger my ass.

[–][deleted] 355 points356 points  (44 children)

I dated him for 10 months when I thought he was penniless, proof I'm not a fucking gold-digger.

LOL! Please tell me this is a troll. How delusional can this bitch be? She proved the exact opposite of that!

He could've said something, ANYTHING during our break up when I was explaining my doubts about our relationship. Instead he said nothing, and now he refuses to talk to me. It makes absolutely no sense.

Why would he? You just outed yourself as a gold digger. What is he going to say? "Please stay with me, you're wrong, I'm filthy rich!"

This is just too good to be true. It must be a troll.

[–]Transmigratory 73 points74 points  (30 children)

Hamsters be hamsterin'.

No matter how exposed we are to them, they have the natural propensity to shock us.

[–]Position5hero 34 points35 points  (29 children)

Throw me any single situation and I'll hamster it for you, as well as a woman could, or better.

Just go ahead. Anything.

Once you spend a lot of time with women, you understand how they see the world.

This is the final step in TRP man- is learning to see through their eyes.

Once you do that- you made it. They have nothing on you at all.

[–]KaribouLouDied 15 points16 points  (26 children)

I got one:

man texted female cousin, your woman doesn't know about this cousin and thinks you are cheating.

aaaannnddd GO!

[–]1independentmale 84 points85 points  (23 children)

This actually happened to me. Wife accused me of cheating on her with my cousin. I shot back, "You have got to be fucking kidding me. Did you forget she's my COUSIN?!" She backed off but then hamstered that I must want to leave her for someone that's like my cousin because "you two get along so well."

Bitch accused me of cheating for years. I never did, true to my word I was faithful to her even though I had every reason to not be. When I finally sent her packing the truth came out, she confessed to an affair.

[–]AlphaAccountant 115 points116 points  (3 children)

Projection. She did it so you must have. I think it's a way of living with the guilt.

[–]teeelo 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Ah, if I may:

She accused him of cheating in the hidden hopes that he actually was, so he would get the blame for ending the relationship as 'The Cheater' Then she not only had an easy way out, but a back up man as well.

Very underhanded shit there.

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      [–]alclarkey 40 points41 points  (5 children)

      It's called projection. Psych 101, you are more likely to believe a person is committing a crime/injustice if you yourself are guilty of said crime.

      [–]I3luee 7 points8 points  (4 children)

      This seems EXTREMELY useful. Where could I read more about similar things? Thanks in advance.

      [–]6footdeeponice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Another good one to look up is confirmation bias.

      It will explain a lot about yourself and those around you.

      [–]Workchoices 22 points23 points  (1 child)

      Like gensyms, I didnt even finish reading the paragraph, I already knew how it ended. I actually had to go back and reread it to make sure my assumption was correct.

      If a woman accuses you of cheating constantly and is always paranoid and jealous, she is either mentally ill, or cheating herself.

      The hamster works like this " It's so easy for me to do it and get away with it, and things haven't been great lately [which is why I am cheating after all, I am not the bad guy here!] things must be shit because he is cheating on me!"

      [–]systemshock869 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      My dad accuses my mom of hiding money.. guess who's been actually hiding money for years?

      It's a human thing.

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        [–]Position5hero 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        What you even have to hapmster here

        Nothing

        'That my cousin girl I ain't trying to have kids with flippers for feet'

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          [–]OsoFeo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          This is just too good to be true. It must be a troll.

          There must be some hamster version of Poe's Law.

          [–]RedPill115 75 points76 points  (6 children)

          Surprisingly, the commentators rip her to shreds.

          She violated the golden rule of gold digger club - you never talk about gold digger club.

          I think that's why she's being attacked. Had she phrased it as vague "feelings" without being obvious that it was actually money, she would have gotten support despite it actually being the same story about money.

          That being said, women in general also care a lot less about money than they used to. It's easier for women to critisize other women because they don't care as much. All of the players I know - ALL of them - are either poor or have money but live like they're poor. Guys with jobs who aren't as entertaining aren't getting to be players. (Not saying it's that way everywhere).

          [–]Concord_Fight 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          I think that's why she's being attacked. Had she phrased it as vague "feelings" without being obvious that it was actually money, she would have gotten support despite it actually being the same story about money.

          Exactly, fake or not, had she (he?) been able to frame this more about trust and lying then she would have gotten sympathizers in droves.

          [–]humankin 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          Seems to be about scarcity of positive attributes. BB is so common that it doesn't do shit to attract pre-wall women. How effective is AF in poor countries? I hear stories of American and European men marrying foreign women way above their native SMV. Those women could be with much more alpha men.

          This has no effect on how men need to act but it could be that the specific sexual strategies used in TRP are really only applicable in the Western world even if the core insights are universally applicable e.g. hypergamy.

          [–]RedPill115 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          "alpha" is a term that is subjective to your environment. I don't think foreign women are looking for nearly as much sociopathic behavior as american girls are in order to rank highly on their alpha scale.

          [–]tallwheel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          So much this. I wasn't surprised by the comments either.

          [–]gohammer3 43 points44 points  (1 child)

          Saw this on the misc, this guy knows how to weed out bitches.

          [–]Position5hero 194 points195 points  (22 children)

          significant gains in their lives and relationships.

          Red flag : Measures her value in terms of how wealthy a man she can marry.

          Anyways good for will.

          Odds are he flashes the money when he wants a one night stand, and keeps it under wraps for LTR.

          What a trooper

          [–]erqos 167 points168 points  (12 children)

          Odds are he flashes the money when he wants a one night stand, and keeps it under wraps for LTR.

          TL;DR: Dude has abundance mentality because he's rich; weeds out golddiggers by serving watery potato soup for dinner and watching artsy documentaries for entertainment.

          [–]KaribouLouDied 144 points145 points  (11 children)

          Dude's a fucking TRP genius.

          [–]AlphaAccountant 17 points18 points  (10 children)

          The caveat, which few have spoken about, is that, at least from her side of the story, he seems like a loser. If TRP is about bettering yourself, he clearly omits this trait, since he's already "made it".

          [–][deleted] 92 points93 points  (0 children)

          He drives what he likes, plays guitar and shit tests women, of which there have been more than a few.

          He seems just fine to me.

          [–]OsoFeo 18 points19 points  (4 children)

          Who cares what she thinks? Being a man is doing what makes you happy, not your Facebook "friends".

          I have a 6-year-old car that is nothing stylish but gets decent gas mileage and is great for my dogs, and most importantly, it's paid for. I own my non-mansion-sized house outright (in a decent neighborhood in a tight coastal US housing market). I don't necessarily love my job, which some might perceive as somewhat unsexy, but it pays well while having flexible hours and it beats 95% of other jobs available to most men.

          In short, fuck what other people think.

          [–]Redditor042 4 points5 points  (3 children)

          Can I ask what your job is?

          (20, and trying to find something worth striving toward)

          [–]OsoFeo 10 points11 points  (1 child)

          Fear of doxxing prevents me from going into specifics. In any case, I would not counsel a younger man to follow my career path (I'm 47), since by the time you acquired the necessary training and experience the market would probably be very different.

          However: if you want career advice, I would recommend learning a trade that will always be needed and can't be offshored. Plumbing is a good example. This is what I really wish I had done.

          Edit: outsourced -> offshored. My brain doesn't always function in the morning.

          [–]no_game_player 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Counterpoint: although my field can be outsourced (offshored is more the term you're looking for here), this also gives me the freedom to look ahead to a future where I can work from anywhere. I'm not there yet, but more because of other issues with my life (currently helping out family which requires a physical presence) than because of career issues.

          But I do compete in a global marketplace more so than do other fields. There's still opportunity on both sides of that though: there's plenty of cube jobs that still require butt-in-chair, and that aspect can't be offshored. I hate that shit though, so it's not the side I go for. But if a person wants a comfortable, easy job, and is willing to give up a substantial amount of their time and freedom to do so, then it's a simple route.

          Different strokes for different folks.

          [–]TRP-Gunsmith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          CNC Operator/Engineer. Make bank, make stuff, can work hours that fit the rest of your life because most shops worth a shit are 24/7/365 if they want to pay the bills and buy more machines. Welder is another one. If you're into the outdoors you can make a shitload doing on the spot heavy equipment repair, you just gotta be willing to go off-road and have the vehicle to do it.

          [–]humankin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Done right, it's counter-signalling his relationship value.

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 37 points38 points  (0 children)

          Will is basically using the strategy I plan on using when I come into my own wealth. It's fun to see the strategy it being put to use (and to see it working perfectly).

          I'm convinced that this is the only real way to live as a wealthy man whose goal it is to filter quality, self-actualizing women from the gold-digging hamster marathon runners who think of themselves as open-minded and compassionate, but who prove to be less-so when the time comes to turn words into action.

          [–]jizzeel 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          Odds are he flashes the money when he wants a one night stand

          I doubt it.

          [–]chillmonkey88 4 points5 points  (6 children)

          I'm saving this post thread as my redflag checklist... I need to get away from chick's that are addicted to face fucking their phones...

          Edit: yes this is how financially sound and secure people are born... inheritance or not, less is more when it comes to living and material things that guide the herd... will proves that in her description.

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            [–]bigsnakejake 18 points19 points  (4 children)

            I know some chicks who write the stupidest shit all the time and get at least 10 likes every time.

            "I feel like watching netflix tonight."

            18 likes.

            [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

            Then they seriously talk about how many likes they get in person or post about it...so fucking cringeworthy

            [–]1aguy01 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Yea that's the most fucked up thing. I've had multiple girls just start talking about how many likes their selfies get verse how many likes their group photos get verse their posts verse random pictures and they aren't even honest, they embellish the numbers. These women are garbage.

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              [–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 481 points482 points  (172 children)

              What gold digging sluts will never understand is that, usually, men are rich because they live frugal lives.

              See, this is solipsism gone wild here. She looked at this man through the prism of how SHE would live her life if SHE had a bunch of money. She would be spending like a drunken sailor on designer beach condos, flashy cars, Louis Vuitton handbags, make-up, designer clothes, and a closet full of shoes. She would make it very obvious to everyone around her that she had money.

              Men usually feel no such compulsions. We may splurge on a home theater or maybe a nicer car, but when a rich MAN spends money, he's spending it on things/occasions that provide utility to him. And he sure isn't spending whimsically on the desires of some slut simply because she granted access to the holes between her legs.

              [–]Ojisan1 59 points60 points  (3 children)

              Great quote from an old Simpsons episode, maybe early 2000s. Bill Gates was one of the characters and he said, "Hey - I didn't get rich by writing a lot of checks."

              [–]JihadDerp 17 points18 points  (1 child)

              Poor people sign the fronts of checks. Rich people sign the back.

              [–]the10thrider 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              Nah. I don't sign the back. I've got a stamp for that. ;-)

              [–]widec 80 points81 points  (36 children)

              And all that money the men save go towards investments, which make their fortune grow even more. I dream of one day (hopefully sooner than later) living off the interest of my investments while keeping that original capital intact.

              [–]should_ 14 points15 points  (34 children)

              Oof, any leads? I graduated from art school a year ago and thought business people were gross, now I'm a frugal penny-magnet reading every single investment book I can get my hands on.

              [–]WindowToAlaska 6 points7 points  (20 children)

              They're taking about investments like businesses and start ups where they get real equity. Idk about stocks.

              [–]should_ 7 points8 points  (19 children)

              Yeah that's what I meant. Not really into stocks as much as real estate and business; more reliable capital.

              [–]Dathisofegypt 10 points11 points  (12 children)

              I would check out r/investing. And get an account with vanguard while also contributing your max to a IRA. If your interested in investing in a startup I would look around for entrepreneurs in your area and only invest in those you truly believe in and can do background information on.

              [–]should_ 4 points5 points  (5 children)

              Many thanks.

              I actually have an IRA account with T Rowe Price, just because their retirement stock is the lowest management fee for my target year, and Vanguard is $20/yr from what I understand. But when one's IRA reaches $10k then Vanguard waves the $20, so my game plan is to sell it and buy into Vanguard when I reach that amount, since they have consistently good funds from what I can tell.

              Can't max out since I'm barely paying groceries, but I'm putting a lot a month anyway.

              As you can see, I'm still learning the Law of Power where I should say less than I need to, but I'm always interested in being corrected so I can learn better, so I say everything.

              [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

              As you can see, I'm still learning the Law of Power where I should say less than I need to

              Context is king. We're all here to help each other, why should we hide anything from other anonymous people who can't negatively impact our lives?

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

              Investor here: my stock portfolio has killed it the last 5 years, tripling in value. My real estate portfolio has done OK--up ~30%. With some extra cash I had, I bought equity in a friend's startup; they were "in the process of selling it" for two years and eventually just gave up. Total loss of investment.

              Stocks kick ass if you're not a dumbass about them.

              [–]CrayolaS7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              It really depends on where you are and stuff. In my country the short-cut to wealth is through real-estate investment because there are huge benefits in terms of taxation, that said it is still a long-term payofff. Personally I have made good money from investments in bank shares (dividends were as high as 11% of the value in 2011-2012 when the prices were still low. Now the price of the shares has increased I would make a bunch if I sold them but instead I get about 6% per year which is much better than a savings account. Now, banks in your country may be a risky investment but the point is that you should look for shares where you can make a return regardless of the markets direction. Even when there have been crashes, the market eventually recovers. As long as you aren't forced to sell when it's low you won't actually lose out just because the price decreases. (Unless the company goes bankrupt, I guess, but I'm talking blue-chips here).

              As for simple things that anyone can do, make sure you savings/checking account is as cheap as possible, look for banks that reward you with bonus interest for online savings accounts, you can often get all the fees waived if you deposit something like $1000/2000 per month (your wages). Mine even gives me free withdrawals from any ATM rather than just my own bank.

              Secondly, it's rarely too early to start thinking about tax minimisation. Obviously it will depend on your country/laws but it is sometimes possible to for example, have your mortgage/car-payment deducted straight from your salary by your employer. The cost of the repayment remains the same but because you never personally received it your taxable income will be reduced.

              [–]Precocious_Kid 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Read "A Random Walk Down Wall Street" by Burton Malkiel. It's the intro to investing that a good deal of banks and wealth management firms require their interns/first-years to read. It'll give you a good understanding of the vehicles for wealth management you have at your disposal and it'll also help you to avoid the get rich quick kind of books.

              [–]omnipedia 3 points4 points  (3 children)

              You're doing the right thing. Read every investment book you can get your hands on- this is one area not to be frugal about it. A terrible book that manages to save you one bad trade will pay for itself in the saved commissions alone!

              Personally I like the Timothy Vick books about warren buffet, and Mary buffets' "buffetology".

              One thing to be aware of is there is a lot of nonsense out there. Diversification is kinda nonsense- assumes your an idiot throwing darts. Real estate can be good if you avoid bubble situations, look at direction of neighborhood, buy cheap not when things are hot.

              When people tell you it's a bad idea, that's the time to buy. I passed on apple at less than $1 a share! If I'd put $10k in- which I had at the time- it would be $1M. Sigh.

              [–]geminimini 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              I've always wanted to own car parks, easy to maintain, no need to hire too many staffs, and you get paid a shit load by people parking there. At least that's what I fantasized about in my head. It's probably not easy to purchase a car park.

              [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 21 points22 points  (23 children)

              Exactly. Look at Warren Buffet.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Some of the anecdotes in his life are so hilarious. He wouldn't waste the change for a phone call by putting in a quarter for $.05 or $.10 cost, they almost missed their flight.

              [–]DumpyLips 2 points3 points  (21 children)

              I'm sure you have, but have you seen his house? The dude is straight up a role model.

              [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 47 points48 points  (17 children)

              "Making money was an early interest for Buffett, who sold soft drinks and had a paper route. When he was 14 years old, he invested the earnings from these endeavors in 40 acres of land, which he then rented for a profit."

              My god, why was this never told to me at a younger age?

              [–]needless_pickup_line 36 points37 points  (15 children)

              Good luck buying 40 acres of land with money from a paper route, but I get what you're saying.

              It's not too late to start now. A buddy of mine with a bio degree is having trouble finding work. Instead of being content with his current retail job he's scoping out biomedical stocks so he can invest.

              [–]colovick 10 points11 points  (6 children)

              40 acres in the Midwest isn't as bad as you'd think, but you definitely need to do more then paper routes... Pressure washing is a pretty good gig you can do around that age... A few hundred startup cost for equipment (you can rent it for your first gig) and people usually pay about 2 grand for 2 days worth of labor... Get a friend and you can do 1 house per day pretty easily.

              [–]iwish4zombies 5 points6 points  (2 children)

              Dont shoot high powered water inside your house people, leave it to the rich fucks who think its a good idea.

              [–]Tsilent_Tsunami 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              shoot high powered water inside your house people

              I found that my house people tended to suffer performance degradation when I did this.

              [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              40 acres in Nebraska where Warren lives? $13,000 if it's over the Oglala Aquifer, $7,000 if it's not. So quarter to half a million isn't as bad as you think? That's one hell of a paper route and power washing business. Maybe out in the Sandhills it's cheaper, but you can't grow shit on it, it's crap for grazing, and nobody wants to live there, so what would it be rented for?

              Farther north land is cheaper, provided it's not on the shore of Lake Superior. It's between $1000 and $3000 a foot of shoreline on the big lake. Everywhere else along the lake it's sand, rocks, and trees, so land is quite cheap. Not good for much though.

              [–]colovick 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              It was a lot cheaper back then, but I was offering a job that could accomplish such a task. At 14, assuming your family takes care of your basic needs, some simple math: 1k per day, 5 days per week in the summer, that's 60-80k if you can stay that busy. During the school year, you can do weekends for another 80k. That's one year worth of work, which would probably need a decent size suburban area to do, but you could still buy a sizable chunk of land to do something like what he did.

              [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              If I could power wash for 1k per day, I'd be doing that. You must know some upscale people if they would pay that much. Not ripping on you or disagreeing though.

              [–]PlanB_is_PlanA 7 points8 points  (2 children)

              Honestly, the best investment I've made so far has been buying a house. I know, hear me out first. I'm 22, fresh out of college. Illinois gives $7,500 to first time home owners right now on top of low interest loans and only 1% down. I took a small sum of my inheritance and bought a 2 story house in Wicker Park, Chicago (a trendy upscale neighborhood). Got a fair price on the home since the market is shit. Now i live on the first floor with a roommate and collect rent from 3 other tenants. I basically live for free (rent covers mortgage, util., etc.) with another $1,000 profit on top each month. It was the best decision I've ever made. So good im looking into buying another small place to rent out. Being a slumlord is actually kind of fun anyway. Just kidding.. but seriously, it was a great investment and I encourage anybody with a bit of disposable income to do the same.

              [–]2johnnight 11 points12 points  (4 children)

              My savings are fuck you money. It's there for safety.

              If I got fired today, I could go on for exactly 30 months (or 60 months if I went completely frugal). I actually had a lengthy period, when I survived off of the savings.

              I saved this up, because I am a cheap asshole, who does rent a cheap apartment and was driving a shitty car and now uses public transport. It's a matter of personality. Buying luxury is painful for me.

              Also, no college debt. Taxpayers payed for this.

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                [–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 28 points29 points  (0 children)

                I think Chris Rock put it best when he described the difference between rich and wealthy

                [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                Better than being a stereotypical rich boy and blowing granddaddy's fortune on hookers, drugs, parties, and planes.

                [–]colovick 4 points5 points  (20 children)

                Investing a car payment in mutual funds averages 5m over 40 years (working lifetime). Throw in house payment and student loans and you're looking at 20m. Having the foresight to pay ahead of time and using that savings well, does in fact make you rich.

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                  [–]paynehouse 16 points17 points  (1 child)

                  Love the plurality of "holes." Lol.

                  [–]BoyMeetsHarem 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Me too. No, really. I do.

                  [–]GeneralCal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  You and OP are just hitting all the nails on the head.

                  What gets me about gold digger types is that they expect everyone else to act responsibly for them while they go running around spending up everyone else's hard earned cash. It's like some perverse Kim Jong Il situation, where you should be the dirt eating people of DPRK and she gets to hang out with Dennis Rodman - I mean her girlfriends - while you hear about it on state tv and pay for it with your days at work.

                  [–]Space_Ninja 41 points42 points  (1 child)

                  The best part of this is that you know this woman is going to regret this for the rest of her life.

                  [–]1aguy01 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                  Haha yep. She is going to pine over this guy forever.

                  [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 19 points20 points  (1 child)

                  Original redditlog link is dead.

                  Here's the original link, saved via archive.today.

                  [–]IProbablyHaveEbola 95 points96 points  (12 children)

                  I smell a troll. It reads like fantasy revenge porn.

                  [–]doritoesNcoffee 41 points42 points  (3 children)

                  Yea posts like these make me think that someone on TRP just loves to go over and create 'hamsters in an overdrive' stories. Even if this particular story is not real, it has happened to someone and will continue to happen in the future.

                  [–]IProbablyHaveEbola 16 points17 points  (2 children)

                  It reads like a bad rom-com script. I can picture Matthew McConaughley in the lead role.

                  [–]bigsnakejake 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                  I was...weedin out bitches...long before anyone paid me to do it. I just liked the way it felt...

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                    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    No woman talks like that. Even gold diggers hide their intentions.

                    [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (2 children)

                    Holy Christ. This is quite telling:

                    Lately my newsfeed has been filled with my peers getting married, buying houses, having babies, and other various accolades

                    ACCOLADE?!!!! Surely she is referring to some special honor or achievement? No, just taking part in voluntary ceremonies, purchasing something that everyone purchases, and shitting out another mediocre human being that about half of the population at some point will have the capability to do.

                    [–]1thrownaway_MGTOW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    ACCOLADE?!!!! Surely she is referring to some special honor or achievement?

                    She thinks FB "likes" and comments from others about "Whoa, that's sweet!" are "accolades".

                    Shes like a karma-whore.

                    [–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Yep. For most women and some men, that's how one "wins" at life. TRP teaches that there is so much more.

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                        [–]teachbirds2fly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        yeah I feel this sub could greatly benefit from everyone knowing this. Too many post just descend into a circlejerk of hate and anger for the actions of women, it's really off putting and adds nothing.

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                          [–]nourathrowway 16 points17 points  (11 children)

                          She left him because he was happy with his life but she wanted to own 3 properties. She states plainly that he should have been buying her love with his money. If that aint gold digging then wtf is?

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                            [–]tallwheel 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                            I would rather leave that term to define a girl who only dates a man when and because he has money.

                            By your own definition, she is pretty much a gold digger. She left him because he doesn't have money, and when she found out he does she pretty much wanted him back.

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                            [–]Endorsed ContributorDenswend 31 points32 points  (7 children)

                            The fact that comments are negative to OP, even in 2XC, and that I see a lot of TRP lingo and some TRP posters, makes me kinda feel weird. Just saying.

                            [–]through_a_ways 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                            I know that feel bro

                            it's a good feel

                            [–]Endorsed ContributorDenswend 21 points22 points  (3 children)

                            I wouldn't call it good. The less TRP overflows to, and I will use my cultural privilege to appropriate a "safe" word, toxic subreddits, the more butthurt will it generate, and in turn the more SJW (who sadly, have a significant presence on plebbit) into shutting TRP down - censorship under the guise of "hate speech".

                            TRP won't work on rabid SJWs, much like it wouldn't work on a religious zealot. It will work for a common average man, who is not really sure of his position in the world, and who only superficially satisfied with the answers of the current religion of "progress". 2XC is the last place one would advertise to.

                            [–]watersign 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                            this is one of those situations when even the BP betas can see through this bullshit, even the feminists.

                            [–]through_a_ways 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                            That's why it should only "overflow" in a subtle undetectable way. Through stories, anecdotes, and comments that support the basic principles of human sex differentiation (and sex differentiation in general)

                            [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                            Exactly. As the feminists slowly turned the tide by using covert methods to spread their rabid lies, so must we spread the truth.

                            Take their tactics, and employ it against them tenfold.

                            [–]abcd_z 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                            Yeah. It was a little odd seeing the term "shit test" there.

                            [–]Misteralcala 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            I replied to that thread! I want to believe it's real! I WANT TO BELIEVE!

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                            [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                            The female equivalent would be wearing a fat suit at all times and not taking it off until marriage

                            [–]tallwheel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                            Maybe a closer equivalent would be a decent looking woman, but who has frizzy hair and wears dumpy clothes. After you break up with her, you find out she was doing some modeling on the side, and when she tries, she actually looks smokin' hot. She just chooses to take it easy and not worry about fashion and looks too much in her private life.

                            [–]1thrownaway_MGTOW 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            Nah... that would be false. Being "frugal" is the reality of this guy, as another commenter ITT noted: that is how you get (and/or STAY) "loaded" (relatively speaking anyway) -- if you piss it away on crap then you generally don't/won't stay loaded for long.

                            What even this guy's friends may not be aware of is that even oil & gas rights money doesn't continue to flow forever. Will almost certainly learned to live his frugal (and easy-going) manner from his father and grandpa -- and no doubt they also advised and taught him to save up/invest for the day when that oil/gas money WILL run dry.

                            [–]Keninishna 45 points46 points  (1 child)

                            I ain't sayin shes a gold digger but.... she ain't datin no broke nigga

                            [–]Patriarchal_Bondage 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                            Oomph, someone got the radio edit

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                            [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

                            TRP ideology is just an unfiltered masculine view of modern society. Every once in a while, a woman will anger a man just enough to unveil the filter from his eyes, and his true masculinity will shine through. Sometimes it never goes back on, sometimes it does.

                            [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                            Will we have been the prophets of our time, brother?

                            [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

                            Satisfying read. I'm surprised people on TwoXChromosomes ripped into her. I thought that subreddit is all about support.

                            She's not gold digger on the level of V Stiviano, but she is using a typical woman trick -- using break up to get what she wants... assuming she didn't lie to lessen the gold digging-ness of her post.

                            This is actually an "accepted" power struggle practice according to many women, as my female friends, who were undoubtedly on my side, have suggested that pulling something like this on my girlfriend (at the time) was "okay". I didn't get it back then, but I get it now.

                            One thing I learned through out my dating and relationship mishaps, is that whatever you learn from women, becomes a tool that you can also use as well. Yes, this "pretend" break up trick works disgustingly well against women, because you are then speaking their language. I would say it works better against women than it works against men, because women know this is just a way to tell them how important an issue is, where men will just think WTF this chick is breaking up with me. Plus women tend to enjoy drama, and what's more dramatic then break up-make up?

                            IMHO of course, my personal experience is just a small subset of what's out there, so maybe I just have the luck of picking the ones that like drama.

                            One caveat, as with any gamble, is that you should be prepared to lose whatever it is that you are betting.

                            This chick didn't realize that part.

                            [–]tallwheel 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                            I especially like how she calls it a 'bad break-up', when actually, from Will's perspective it sounds like a pretty damn clean break to me. Dude showed her the door and went no contact. Sounds like a great break-up to me.

                            [–]Casanova-Quinn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                            It's a "bad breakup" in her view because she didn't get a second chance at his money.

                            [–]ModAerobus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                            Here's a thought, why instead of breaking up with him, did you not have a sit down and talk to him about what was bothering you?

                            Nah shit testing is the path she chose and it totally backfired on her.

                            RP terminology in a default, FEMINIST, sub. Man I'm happy.

                            She got what she deserved. Out of respect for the woman, I hope she learns her lesson and doesn't screw up in the future. Props to Will for not being a complete idiot with his money. He kept it safe from the gold-diggers out in the world.

                            [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                            So much vicarious schadenfreude in reading this post. That's why this is getting upvoted so much. Not really very educational, but very satisfying to read. This is like porn for anger phase guys.

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                            [–]denmaur 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                            I agree. I think she saw a life time of potato soup for dinner and him not trying to better himself. She's probably better off anyway. People that cheap don't change.

                            I knew an old lawyer once who would walk three blocks from his office to make copies because he could save 5 cents per copy. And it wasn't a whole lot of copying so he probably saved 50 cents per trip on average.

                            [–]tallwheel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                            I see this as more of an RP example than a "women behaving badly" or "hypergamy gone wild" story. Yes, you are right that it is natural for women who are nearing the wall to seek someone she knows can provide.

                            Thing is, feminism and the general 'you go girl' attitude created guys like Will. Dude lives how he wants, and when she told him she wanted to break it off, dude handled it like a boss. Hell, the way I see it, bitch was practically a plate and just didn't know it. I'll bet Will will be screwing another bitch in no time - if he isn't already - and he will break it off with the new bitch too as soon as she becomes no longer worth the trouble.

                            Yes, this is the world we now live in, so it's hard to be too surprised about the way she acted. Still, I think most of us here would have a hard time not feeling a bit of schadenfreude seeing examples like this where the old deal between the sexes is clearly crashing and burning. One may feel sorry for women in the crash, but this is the pond feminism led them to, and they all chose to drink from it. They can either try to repair the system (good luck with that) or live with the consequences of it.

                            [–]kombatunit 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                            Can a woman turn a man into a millionaire? Yes, if he starts as a billionaire.

                            [–]w_t_f_1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                            TRP is so gripping... So about 2 years ago, I'm very close with this couple (family friends). Husband owns a small business making millions per year. Enough to send the kids to an expensive private school, buy them new cars, etc. The kids will have to work when they're older, but they always treated their kids (and family/friends) very well.

                            Wife? She works a fairly easy job full time, doing something she's passionate about. Her ol' boss used to let her work different hours so she'd be out of there by 3 most days.

                            Did I mention she did the books?

                            Keep in mind he's getting old and was ready to retire.

                            At some point ol' husband gets a tad bit suspicious when there's no money to pay the bills. How could this be? The wife had "cooked" the books up the whole time they were together.

                            Now, I don't know their exact financial situation at that point other than they were either in debt or had nearly nothing except the value of his business. One thing that he did mention was that she had literally hundreds of shoes in her closet that had never been worn ONCE.

                            Anyway, you know what's coming next. She pushed for divorce as soon as there was no more money. They got divorced, and Mr. I'm Going to Retire Soon is still working 2 years later with no end in site.

                            Take away? If nothing else, don't let your wife do the books.

                            [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                            Will's the rare type of guy who can inherit a great deal of wealth and not turn into a retard. That is discipline and true non-neediness; nearly everyone you meet will on some level care about "showing off" what they make to their GF / wife so they can feel successful. This is the level you should aspire to - in fact, if you truly want to enter relationships where you aren't the beta bucks, you have to be at this level. If you are at the point where you'd rather the relationship die than you have to play the BB role for 1 second... that is when you're ready to move on from plates to LTR.

                            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                            When I finished talking, he said "fine by me" and asked me to leave. I went to hug him on my way out, instead he just guided me out the door and slammed it shut behind him.

                            I haven't heard a fucking word from Will, even after texting him multiple times and calling him once.

                            Wow, major respect for this guy.

                            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                            I've recently gotten an interesting job opportunity that is going to make my net worth sky rocket in the near future. It's gonna be really interesting to see hamsters like this coming out of the woodwork.

                            [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                            It gets even better with age, some women hit that "mental wall" fear at 23 according to my older male cousins. Suddenly the fact that you're smart makes them realize how "great" you've always been. Props to them though, it's a lot easier getting off the CC at 23 than 32.

                            [–]ioncehadsexinapool 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                            care to explain that a bit more?

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                            [–]2johnnight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                            I can't help but feel jealous by this; it seems like everyone but me is making significant gains in their lives and relationships. Three weeks ago, after seeing a girl I knew from high school buy her 3rd property with her husband,

                            If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?

                            I could understand treating as in buying small gifts, tokens of affection. But the way she understands male-female relations is that the man works, buys her property and these are 'significant relationship gains'. The woman does not have material success on her own. She does not work to get what she wants on life. She gets it by getting it from the man. If she can't make her man get it for her, she is jealous of the other women, who got it.

                            Women castigate men for feeling entitled to sex. Well, the amount of entitlement she showed here is off the charts.

                            [–]2IVIaskerade 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                            Also, she's known him for a year. I wouldn't even be thinking about marriage until 3 years in minimum.

                            [–]muddynips 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                            The truly talented ones can hide the hamster for a decade.

                            [–]AndrewAtrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            And this example vindicates that cautious approach.

                            [–]ohsweetword 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            Protect your wealth like you protect your health. You earned both.

                            [–]_VicBoss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Walking wallet...rather kill myself than adopt that as an official title.

                            [–]amillwouldbeill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                            Clearly this person is just trolling.

                            [–]the99percent1 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                            Will is mgtow. Wouldn't be surprised if he frequents TRP himself. His gym friends are pretty alpha too. If you have guy friends like that, keep them. Unlike BP men who will shame the rich guy for not spending, they know it is ultimately his choice to live his life and the bitch deserved it.

                            Anyways, don't be too harsh on the bitch. She was just deploying her hypergamy and her need to find a rich partner. With her ticking time clock and Wills great ability to hide his wealth, his friends not letting out how rich he is, combined with his frugal lifestyle, the bitch didn't stand a chance in recognizing the jackpot she scored.

                            [–]bluedrygrass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            I have an immense respect and admiration for that man. He did everything perfectly.

                            He hid his wealth to be able to see his girlfriend's real nature. He held frame and immediately dumped her as soon as she showed how miserable and interested she really was. Slamming the door.

                            He never answered to her obsessive/compulsive calls. This is the cherry on the cake.

                            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            And here guys is a terrific example of a true ALPHA:

                            The next time I was over at Will's ... I ended the relationship ... He sat and listened to everything, seemingly unmoved by it. When I finished talking, he said "fine by me" and asked me to leave. I went to hug him on my way out, instead he just guided me out the door and slammed it shut behind him ... I haven't heard a fucking word from Will, even after texting him multiple times and calling him once.

                            [–]1Jaereth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            Maybe dude just realizes a fancy car and possessions won't make you happy in life.

                            [–]other_worlds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            To a man, being jealous of a friend's accomplishments on Facebook will drive him to be more accomplished himself.

                            To a woman, being jealous of a friend's accomplishments on Facebook will drive her to break up with her man, if he can't accomplish it.

                            The thought that she should strive to accomplish these things never even enters the consciousness of anyone in that main thread.

                            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            My step-grandpa would definitely befriend "Will". He gets mistaken for a homeless man on a daily basis, but little would you know that he is actually a multimillionaire from tobacco stock. People's (and especially women's) perception of rich people isn't what it usually turns out to be. They may seem as if they were godlike people with corrupt amounts of political power and fancy watches, but most of them (and the wisest) live just like us.

                            [–]Frozen_Tundra 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            I dated him for 10 months when I thought he was penniless, proof I'm not a fucking gold-digger

                            He never took me out for fancy dinners or anything.

                            If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?

                            He could have easily kept our relationship alive by being forthcoming (he be loaded)

                            Such entitlement. And gold digging. And she can't see it?

                            [–]2IVIaskerade 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                            I've always held that people with large fortunes don't necessarily spend a lot. There's a reason they have the money in the first place.

                            This is more true for self-made people. Lottery winners and Old Money tend to be into the extravagant stuff.

                            [–]mirinrustles 7 points8 points  (6 children)

                            In my opinion it's the new wealth and lottery winners. The old money in my area have million dollar homes and still drive Camrys. The new money are the ones with Lambos and Ferraris. Then you have the ones in homes in the 750-1000k. Those have Maseratis, Bentleys, and whatever six figure car is flashy. Signs that "you've made it" y'know?

                            [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (5 children)

                            The old money in my area have million dollar homes and still drive Camrys.

                            I'd much rather have a nice big house than a nice car.

                            [–]jmg83 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                            I hope this is fake. If it's real then this girl is a bitch. She dumps him, and now she's butthurt that he didn't tell her that he's fucking minted, but he kept his mouth shut. Good for this guy. I wish I won the lottery if only so I could pull a stunt like this. I love how she's upset that he's not upset about the break-up:

                            He could've said something, ANYTHING during our break up when I was explaining my doubts about our relationship. Instead he said nothing,

                            What the fuck should he have said? "Please, don't dump me! Stay with me! I'M RICH!"

                            [–]robot-b 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                            What the fuck should he have said?

                            don't you know that he was obligated to spend that money on her?

                            If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?

                            [–]unpluggedoasis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            LOVE stories like this. The ownage is priceless.

                            [–]sikballa 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                            Wow commenters ripped her to shreads. GJ TwoX you just might be on the right path.

                            [–]Iupvoteforknowledge 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                            Cept all the commenters are dudes.

                            [–]sikballa 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                            Female readers of TwoX find themselves unable to hamster out of their way through this mess and stayed silent?

                            [–]Iupvoteforknowledge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Perhaps. I didn't think of that.

                            [–]getfuckingreal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            It's nice to see the others on 2X calling her out as a gold-digger.

                            [–]zephyr141 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Mmm dude creamy potato soup with spam. Now that is delicious.

                            [–]-Strider 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Man, I love Will. This is how wealthy guys should deal with women (well, if it's a LTR you want). Sounds like a good guy. Of course, if you're not after a LTR and just sex, you can pretty easily have a nice stream of gold diggers, get them in then out, if you know how to deal with them

                            [–]skoobled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            He's probably intentionally frugal so as to weed out gold digging friends/women. I'm sure if you're loaded and deeper than a puddle then this must be a constant problem. In this case guy did well, props to him. Clearly loaded and smart, what more could a guy need?

                            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            How can she be annoyed when she broke off the relationship? If she was going to stay if he explained the money he had, then she as just with him for his cash. If she actually liked him then she wouldn't care about his finance. Some day he will likely get married to some nice woman who doesn't know about the oil and likes him for him, and she will be very pleasantly surprised.

                            [–]Dishmayhem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            this is just beautiful. her hamster must be dizzy in that wheel

                            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            I actually agreed with her somewhat until she dropped this fucking line: "If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?"

                            yes honey, it really was all about money to you

                            [–]relish-tranya 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Many rich people stay rich because they don't throw it all into lifestyle.

                            [–]Newdist2 8 points9 points  (51 children)

                            Seems fake, shitty morality tale.

                            Also, and downvote me for this if you like, it's reasonable for a woman to care about the financial status of a potential future husband. He doesn't need to be a oil heir, but he needs to have a plan for how they are going to afford health insurance for their kids and live in a good neighborhood.

                            [–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                            Thing is, she didn't seem to ask him about any of this, she just decided it was over and told him.

                            [–]evafha 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                            I work in a field that serves some really rich folks as clients (billionaires and hundred-millionaires) and you can tell that the ones who met their wives before they got rich are extremely loyal husbands and don't hire identical twin prostitutes or anything, since their wives are the only person in the world who isn't looking for a handout from them. And the ones who weren't married before they got rich, are always suspicious of women like this guy in the OP's story rightly was.

                            Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg wifed up Priscilla? Why does Eminem keep getting back together with Kim even though that relationship clearly doesn't work? Because they're the only women who they can ever be sure loved them for who they are, not their money or status.

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                            [–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                            So then we shouldn't post RP examples in this sub? (Keep in mind, there's a flare for it.) And we aren't allowed to have a bit of schadenfreude when we see TRP confirmed?

                            [–]cthulhucumsicle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            The whiny bitching is OTT in this one though.

                            [–]1oldredder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Ya we do.

                            Then we get blacklights so we can see ALL the scorpions.

                            Then we kill ALL of them that are in our way.

                            We gain everything now: we learn the pattern so we can eliminate EVERY threat instead of acting blindly one at a time.

                            [–]1iluminatiNYC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            I'm thinking this is a troll post, but either way, this is gold. While I wouldn't say she was a straight up gold digger, at least in a traditional way, she was looking for a meal ticket. He did the right thing.

                            [–]LoveUnderWill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                            To quote the great Biz Markie: "Damn it feels good to see people up on it!"

                            [–]The_Americano 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            I would do things slightly different than this guy but regardless this guy is winning at life. At the end of the day he seems happy and has firm boundaries and doesn't get stepped on/taken advantage of. A strong handshake where ever he may be,carry on...

                            [–]superyay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Taking bets on her calling him and crying about how sorry she is and how she wants to get back together.

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