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An AWALT Classic - Girl breaks up with her bf for living too frugally only to find out he's actually loaded, a year later the story's changed to her breaking up with him for "lying by omission". (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1Ramesses_

Oh boy, buckle up fellas. Older folks on TRP might remember the original story of the girl who dumped her boyfriend for living frugally only to later find out that he was rich af and simply chose to live that way. As soon as she breaks up with him he goes no contact and gets on with his life and she cannot figure out why. She then finds out he was secretly rich and was choosing not to spend money on her and gets even more confused. Part one takes place in 2014.

Part one - original

*TL;DR - My boyfriend kept his wealth a secret from me throughout our entire relationship. I ended the relationship on the pretext that he wasn't money/career motivated, he didn't say anything to the contrary. *

I [F26] have been dating Will [M27] for most of 2014; I met him on New Years Eve, we exchanged numbers, scheduled a coffee date and have been seeing each other ever since. He's tall and shy, with long thick hair like Eddie Vedder. He lives in an older house by himself and drives a 1997 Toyota. He dresses very casually - I don't think he even owns a collared shirt - and all his clothes are minimum 1-2 years old. For income, he told me he "ran a few websites" and picked up piece-work as a 'session guitarist'. He is also very frugal. He never took me out for fancy dinners or anything. In the beginning it was always coffee dates, walks, hikes, etc. If we go out, he insists on 'pre-drinking' and refuses to buy drinks at a bar. Most nights he was content staying in, watching Netflix and playing his guitar.

I never outright asked how much money he made, but given his lifestyle, clothes, furnishings, etc. plus the fact that he rarely worked, I assumed it wasn't much. I would lightly prod him with questions about the future, if he had any career goals - he would say that he "saw me in his future", but also he was "happy the way things were".

I have Facebook and am on it every day, usually when work is slow. Lately my newsfeed has been filled with my peers getting married, buying houses, having babies, and other various accolades. I can't help but feel jealous by this; it seems like everyone but me is making significant gains in their lives and relationships. Three weeks ago, after seeing a girl I knew from high school buy her 3rd property with her husband, it felt like my relationship with Will was juvenile and had no future.

The next time I was over at Will's (after he served me potato soup for dinner and was torrenting a documentary for us to watch later) I ended the relationship. I was perfectly honest about everything - he was a great guy, I loved him and his personality, but I felt he lacked career/life ambition and we wanted different things for the future. He sat and listened to everything, seemingly unmoved by it. When I finished talking, he said "fine by me" and asked me to leave. I went to hug him on my way out, instead he just guided me out the door and slammed it shut behind him.

With prior boyfriends, we'd still talk or text a bit after we'd be broken up. Sometimes we'd even still hook up. I dunno, I've just never had a 'bad break-up' and always try to remain on good terms. I haven't heard a fucking word from Will, even after texting him multiple times and calling him once.

I saw two of Wills friends at the gym today. I went over and made small talk, asked how he was, etc. I tried to explain myself, saying he was a great guy but our views on money and the future didn't seem to mesh. To this, one friend chuckled to himself and walked away. I asked the other friend WTF that's about it, and he says "Yeah, we heard. The thing is, Will's loaded. He inherited his grandpas land which is leased to oil and gas companies. I've seen the quarterly checks he gets and they're more than my yearly salary. Good luck getting him to spend it, though. He has a 'if it aint broke, dont fix it' type mentality. Just look at that piece of shit he drives!"

This has completely baffled and upset me. I dated him for 10 months when I thought he was penniless, proof I'm not a fucking gold-digger. I am a 26 year old woman who needs to be pragmatic, I can't just indefinitely date someone with the future being so uncertain. He could've said something, ANYTHING during our break up when I was explaining my doubts about our relationship. Instead he said nothing, and now he refuses to talk to me. It makes absolutely no sense.

I just feel so low right now. If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her? He said he "saw me in his future", why didn't he care enough to share these things with me? He could have easily kept our relationship alive by being forthcoming. Someone please help me make sense of this situation.

Her lack of self awareness is astounding! I love how she just cannot seem to figure out why he's not talking to her after she broke up with him, why he told her to leave and didn't want to hug her goodbye after she essentially told him he wasn't good enough for her to stay in a relationship with. She just seems genuinely baffled - him accepting the break up and moving on is now a 'bad break-up'!

Part 2 - the update

And here's where it gets glorious. A year later and she no longer broke up with him because of his frugality but because "he had been dishonest about some things... [and she] couldn't come to terms with his lying by omission. It seemed he threw [their] relationship away over nothing."

In 2014 I went through a pretty bad break-up. I met Will at a NYE party hosted by a friend-of-a-friend and we dated for 10ish months. I loved him - it was probably the best relationship I'd had on a 'personal connection' level - but he had been dishonest about some things (not infidelity - 'life' things) and it led to us breaking up. I couldn't come to terms with his lying by omission - it seemed like he threw away our relationship over nothing.

I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious. Around summer 2015 is when things started to turn around and I felt I was in a good place. Happy with my job, happy with my body, happy with my social circle - just all-around happy and patiently waiting for Mr. Right to come along.

My friends and I were invited to the same NYE party this year, hosted by the same person. I knew there was a chance my ex would be there, but I didn't care - I was over him. Seeing him and being cordial shouldn't have been a problem. He was pretty icy when the relationship ended, so even if he was there, I didn't expect him to say all that much to me.

So my girls and I are there early, having a few cocktails and everything is going great... then Will walks through the door. He saw me, smiled, walked directly over and gave me a big hug. With his arms wrapped around me, smelling his cologne... I just melted. In that moment, whatever bad feelings I had about our relationship were completely gone. I just genuinely missed him.

I got through 15 minutes of small talk with him, my heart racing the entire time. He remembered all these little details about me, my friends and my family - I couldn't believe it. When I told him about my job, my new apartment, etc. he seemed happy for me. When the conversation ended, he gave me another quick hug and then left toward the kitchen.

My friends could tell that seeing him had affected me. They took me to a more private area of the house to talk it out; they reminded me to not get ahead of myself, he's still the same guy who lied to you, etc.

When we went to rejoin the party, he was on his phone giving directions to someone. After a minute of eavesdropping it became clear that he was talking to his girlfriend. Fuck.

I should've left then and there, but I didn't want it to seem like him having a new girlfriend affected me. Like I hadn't gotten on with my fucking life after 14 months apart. And so I stayed.

She arrived about 10 minutes later and Will introduced her to everyone. She seemed nice enough, but seeing them together made me sick to my stomach. I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. I did my best to avoid them throughout the night. I found out through a friend that they'd been dating for 2 or 3 months. The party ended, I got into a car with my friends and just started sobbing uncontrollably. They tried to comfort me but I was too far gone. They dropped me off and I cried for while longer alone in my apartment.

This was supposed to be a fun weekend with my girls, we had all sorts of stuff planned, but I ended up staying home by myself last night. No one questioned it, they all knew. I must've wrote 100 different texts to Will last night but didn't end up sending a single one. I'm going to stay in tonight as well.

I want him back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(

I can't decide if my favourite part is her sobbing uncontrollably or how much of a boss Will is. I'm certain he's on here but if he's not he should be. Wherever you are Will TRP salutes you buddy.

*edit: formatting


[–][deleted] 558 points559 points  (29 children)

Roflmao You know you are a shit person when even TwoX gives u shit about what you do

[–]WilliamBott 241 points242 points  (20 children)

Yeah, you know you fucked up when they don't give you a pussy pass.

[–]LibertyIsNotFree 105 points106 points  (4 children)

Even twox for how much they hate men, knew she actually pissed away Mr Right who was also coincidentally Mr Tall Dark & Handsome & Rich. The very thing they all want but pretend they don't. While lying to themselves that their irrational fem nazi behavior has nothing to do with their betas they can only attract.

[–]aanarchist 31 points32 points  (3 children)

there's a lot of women who throw away mr everything because she's just incapable of happiness and contentment. honestly i wonder if the master plan for women like that is to learn true humility. i'm talking like accepting a 1-2 smv dude and learning how to appreciate him and respect him, because she really deserves nothing at the end of the day. it's like karma's grand plan for women.

[–]glawkneintehn 42 points43 points  (0 children)

You just explained how humans came up with marriage.

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 2 points3 points  (1 child)

there's a lot of women who throw away mr everything because she's just incapable of happiness and contentment.

So fucking true. Why are so many incapable of it? Is it the constant need for drama?

[–]aanarchist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

mind control, they're raised by parents and teachers to be in a negative polarity as a default, so it's like a bottomless hole that can never be filled but they seek to fill it anyway and that's how they are raised to believe how life works. then she turns to all these hate movements when she's miserable because everything they said was good and would work didn't, not realizing that she's been duped by the system. it's not a natural set of behaviors, it's how she is raised. kinda like how men are raised to be slaves, so are the women in their own way. both are raised to be an abomination to nature rather than in harmony with it.

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (12 children)

hypocrites, most of them would do the same thing

[–][deleted]  (11 children)

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    [–]josiasx 25 points26 points  (1 child)

    In the first post, she was triumphant! She had escaped a loser, and empowered her future. But given enough time to think about it, she realized she got burnt hard, and exposed as gold digger.

    Then the hamster stepped forward, and she became the victim. Not getting the man back, she went into full martyr mode and ruined her own weekend, for a little sympathy from her friends.

    [–]slumdog-millionaire 41 points42 points  (4 children)

    what kind of things did they say to her in twoX more specifically than her just being a shit person?

    [–]p0gop0pe 61 points62 points  (1 child)

    She had to change her story entirely because of the backlash she presumably recieved

    [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

    That she is lying that she has to change which is equal to saying you are the worst human in the world in normal subreddit. Most of posts like this baby mommas flock and tell the girl that she is right and the bf is fucking mysogenistic animal or some shit

    [–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

    What's even more pathetic is this OP of that thread deep down inside knew she was in the wrong (why else go to TwoX to confirm you did the right thing unless you are grossly insecure about it) and still got shit on.

    [–]PurpleVeteran 420 points421 points  (7 children)

    "Yeah, we heard. The thing is, Will's loaded. He inherited his grandpas land which is leased to oil and gas companies. I've seen the quarterly checks he gets and they're more than my yearly salary."

    That's a bro right there. Almost certainly Will really is just a grungy musician living on a shoestring budget, but with a single sentence, he flipped the script on her entirely. Who needs a million dollars when your best friends have your back that way?

    [–]thewrecker8 312 points313 points  (0 children)

    Man if that's what really happened that dude is the fucking wingman of the decade right there.

    [–]345plates 96 points97 points  (0 children)

    Haha now that's a good point.

    [–]beginner_ 28 points29 points  (0 children)

    Will really is just a grungy musician living on a shoestring budget

    Damn you. Never thought of that. That would be the best troll ever. Getting into her head and she still is mental fucked by that one sentence years later. That one sentence made her into an alpha widow.

    [–]doubleduty 20 points21 points  (3 children)

    Yeah but what's the point of that? He doesn't gain anything from it. Does he? Seems like all it accomplishes is now she's fuckin depressed. He got a new girlfriend easy enough. Am I missing something?

    [–]PurpleVeteran 55 points56 points  (0 children)

    No, it didn't seem like Will was bothered either way. He didn't make a big deal when she left, didn't make a big deal when he saw her again. Hell, it wasn't even him who made the comment about the money.

    I tried to explain myself, saying he was a great guy but our views on money and the future didn't seem to mesh

    It bothered her that he didn't beg or chase after her. In fact, she seems to be the only one emotionally invested (although she claimed to be pragmatic), and it was clear that she felt guilty about how it ended.

    Still, the irony is just that changing the context of the break-up was enough to make her go from "pragmatic" to the "victim". I suppose that's why it's re-posted here so often... because of the RP justice boner it inspires.

    [–]bootmeng 24 points25 points  (0 children)

    Here's how I see it. The girl probably fluffed a lot of what she was saying on 2X because she knew the full truth wouldnt get her as much validation "Had a whole weekend planned but I stayed home crying. Woe is me. Feel sorry for me." "I dated him for 10 months when I thought he was penniless, so obv Im not a gold digger" Feeling a little guilty, like you just might be? When she heard he was loaded she went from justified in breaking up to OMG I made a huge mistake. Gold Digger.

    Women/gold diggers get validated left and right all day. It can feel mighty good turning their world upside down for a moment. As little as it is, its still enough.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    He doesn't gain anything from it. Does he?

    Watching her sob would be glorious Karma so yes, he certainly does gain from lying about something like that.

    [–]ctrl_alt_el1te 210 points211 points  (17 children)

    Also for all you people reading this for the first time, take this subtle lesson.

    A lot of rich people are able to stay rich because they minimize unnecessary expenses. This can be interpreted on the scale of him driving an old car and "pre-drinking" before going out OR on the scale of him letting a soon-to-be expensive wife walk out his door.

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      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      This is such a great book. So much insight into just plain old quantitative data about rich people. This was a real script flipper for me when I was a younger man (originally published in 1996).

      [–]-ATLAS-_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Also see:

      Warren Buffett, literally talks ad nauseum about the power of compounded interest as the key to everything.

      Plus It never hurts to looks at all the counter examples of lottery winners and athletes that ended up bankrupt.

      [–]Expectations1 24 points25 points  (0 children)

      Yeh, im finally starting to build some wealth by not spending as much, not hanging out at shopping centres.

      My friends pretty much buy all this new shit whenever they get a raise, im the other way, i work out ways to spend less so i can get out of this abominable thing we call 9-5

      [–]drunksaver 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      Well said. I feel like that part of this story gets overshadowed by the rest.

      [–]Kalidane 15 points16 points  (6 children)

      When I had a fancy office job, my coffee and smokes budget was greater than my rent, which was in a fancy CBD-fringe area. Absolute shit ton of money pissed away over the years.

      If time travel, that would be one of the three things I would discuss with young-me.

      [–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      lol dont ever worry about spending money you have on stupid shit. Theres alot of people (including me) spending money we DONT have. If i had just only thrown away money i actually had damn boy my life woulda been great.

      [–]immozart93 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      Okay you got me. What are the other two things?

      [–]Kalidane 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      The second would be passing on Red Pill understanding, to speed the process.

      I'll have to hold the third in reserve. Maybe learn to drink without binging.

      [–]immozart93 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      In northern China people just have their kids start drinking at a young age under supervision LOL, and its the serious kinda white shots.

      [–]beginner_ 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      While my dad was kind of absent and beta bucks, that is one thing I have to thank him for. Frugality. It ain't broken if you can glue it together. 2-component glue can fix almost anything.

      In contrast to TRP you can save a ton of money on your wardrobe. If it doesn't have holes, you don't need a new one. Most of my close also is several years old. So what? I change when I get home. Sweat pants and and old t-shirt. Old t-shirts can also be used for gym or sports in general. No need to buy fancy, expensive shirts from the fitness section. old jeans can be used for hiking or in general when doing something were they could get dirty (car, bike, home remodeling...). And last but not least you can rip the cloth in pieces and use them as rags.

      [–]DontTreadOnSnek 290 points291 points  (12 children)

      I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious.

      "I fucked half the regulars at my favorite club"

      [–]denisgomesfranco 215 points216 points  (14 children)

      The entitlement is strong with this one.

      Before TRP I would think "You decided to break up with him, so suck it up" but then TRP teached me that women just won't take any responsibility. So I laughed a lot reading this story.

      and just started sobbing uncontrollably

      Yeah, of course you did, hahaha!

      I must've wrote 100 different texts to Will last night but didn't end up sending a single one

      That guy is my new hero.

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        [–]alphabachelor 39 points40 points  (0 children)

        To really push it he could have sent her a reply like "insert more coins to keep texting" or something.

        As tempting as that is, the best reply is none at all. Women cannot stand being dumped, being ghosted, etc.

        Hell, one of my gf's "friend" flew from Canada to Connecticut to confront her LD orbiter because he grew some balls and blocked her on WhatsApp.

        [–]denisgomesfranco 32 points33 points  (0 children)

        insert more coins to keep texting

        Haha, great idea, I'll use it someday. Or it could be this one: 'To confirm the receipt of this message type the code 1M4G0LDD1GG3R'

        [–]Palmajr 264 points265 points  (63 children)

        Wow, she just got absolutely destroyed. That's the kind of man I want to be.

        [–]The-Devilz-Advocate 159 points160 points  (54 children)

        And for the people who want a good tip. If you have a LTR and you have never spoken about finances or where you go in life and she then dumps you because of that same reason do like Soup guy did and move on.

        If she had taken a complete rational aproach by talking to her BF about finances or their "plan" for their future both as individuals and as a couple then maybe MAYBE she wouldn't have gotten out of the best possible deal of her life. But then again if I remember she said something about scrolling FB and being jealous that she didn't have her 3rd house or property.

        [–]DontTreadOnSnek 155 points156 points  (41 children)

        she said something about scrolling FB and being jealous that she didn't have her 3rd house or property

        Women believe they're entitled to the hard work of men, shouldn't surprise us anymore at this point.

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          [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (18 children)

          Over on TRP women subreddit (yes, I know) they have a nice little discussion on how modern men don't know how to date. One of the many vices? The unwillingness for many men to pay for everything on the first date. Shows lack of ability to lead or some bullshit. Yeah, bitches, THAT's the reason ... LOL.

          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (15 children)

          Eh they have a point. Either you want to be a leader, which means adhering to traditional gender roles in some fashion, or want to be a new age 'equality' baby which will help you pat yourself on the back at night but wont get you laid.

          This doesn't mean being an ATM machine or dating some materialistic bimbo. But you should follow the role of leading on dates (and basically everything else) including paying for the first date (which if you are experienced will know by now that shouldn't include dinner, a movie, or any garbage like that. Should just be drinks somewhere)

          [–]blackberrydoughnuts 24 points25 points  (13 children)

          That's a false dilemma - leading doesn't mean letting people freeload on you. It means valuing yourself. Why should you pay for someone you don't know and who hasn't earned it? Not to mention that you are much less likely to get sex if you pay.

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

          lol that's simply not true. Not paying on the first date will absolutely disrupt any positive momentum you have going. You can say its not valuing yourself, it also displays low value and that you're a cheap ass.

          [–]blackberrydoughnuts 23 points24 points  (1 child)

          It has never been a problem for me and my approach makes more sense to me and works well for me. Why should I pay for them? We're two adults. Shouldn't they pay for me? They get to be with me.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 7 points8 points  (3 children)

          Not paying on the first date will absolutely disrupt any positive momentum you have going.....

          towards being her sexless beta orbiter- or husband.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          If you are going on a date you aren't a fucking orbiter, christ. It's one date

          [–]blackberrydoughnuts 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Wait what? How is that something trp women would say? You'd think they'd realize...

          [–]The-Devilz-Advocate 49 points50 points  (3 children)

          Because of the sole belief that if a woman is with a man then "his" money is now her money as well. This was all true and just when women couldn't work or get a job but it was never changed. Something that feminism forgets to fight for, unless it's the woman doing the hard work.

          [–]1Entropy-7 32 points33 points  (1 child)

          There are so many guys who have pointed out that when you get serious with a woman then suddenly your money becomes "our" money, but if she has a paying career then that is still "her" money.

          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          It's funny because this is something that ROUTINELY concerns guys - the joint bank account. It just shows how more often than not women spend much more than they make.

          Really this wouldn't even be an issue if women were like other men

          [–]1mugenowns 15 points16 points  (0 children)

          Absolutely right. This will was obviously supporting himself so he wouldn't be a burden but at no point did it seem to occur To her that she could go out and get a gig paying job to afford all the fancy stuff she wanted. No she wanted a man to do it for her.

          [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (7 children)

          Finances suck because it can absolutely derail a LTR or marriage that is healthy in other areas. I just got out of one where I made roughly double what my SO made. Still, she was the one wanting to fly out on trips all the time, look at getting large scale assets (new car, expensive engagement ring, lake houses) - with many being unnecessarily expensive.

          Her logic when I said we couldn't afford those things now? "well in 5 years you will be making enough to afford it". Lmao

          [–]-MAurelius- 28 points29 points  (2 children)

          She had done what you suggest though. Will said he "ran a couple of websites" and "saw her in his future" but was "happy with the way things are"

          [–]The-Devilz-Advocate 36 points37 points  (1 child)

          Yeah but it wasn't something serious. What I meant was sitting down and talking about it, he probably said that while watching tv and she never pushed for a serious comversation

          [–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero 22 points23 points  (0 children)

          I read into this as though she didn't push the conversation. This becomes a little more clear in light of the idea that women aren't leaders; they're followers.

          She probably asked a single, vague, open-ended question; and Will probably responded with an equally simple and vague answer.

          I speculate that she didn't take the initiative and become a leader in that situation by asking follow up questions to better flush out the topic. Instead, as a follower, she probably just left the conversation in a state of dissatisfaction and just allowed herself to run wild with assumed conclusions.

          [–]FailingBillionaire 13 points14 points  (6 children)

          This guy inherited his wealth, so by definition he didn't work for it.

          Having a guy without any accomplishments and without any drive or ambition as a role model is just dumb.

          This chick was probably fat and a <6 and that's probably the only reason for the situation.

          [–]segagaga 10 points11 points  (4 children)

          Accomplishments, Drive and Ambition aren't for everyone. If he wants to coast and live simply that's up to him. Being a man is partly about living your life how you want to, and nothing else. Sounds like he is very content, wants for nothing, stress-free life and finds enjoyment in nature and simple company. There's a lot of appeal to that. Not everyone is going to make it to the 0.1% anyway, and those who never start the rat race usually end up where they want to be in life in any case.

          [–]Chillesauce 117 points118 points  (18 children)

          BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA ,pure comedy gold "If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her? He said he "saw me in his future", why didn't he care enough to share these things with me? "

          Women are truly independent Women don't need a man Women are not gold diggers they marry for love Isn't feminism beautiful boys

          [–]top_zozzle 67 points68 points  (13 children)

          Im not a gold digger I dated him for months thinking he was frugal! I only dumped him because I thought he didn't have money though

          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (12 children)

          And this is why women need to be stripped of the right to vote and sent back into the kitchen.

          [–]anon35202 5 points6 points  (11 children)

          All the Muslims wholeheartedly agree with you and believe in it strongly enough to have implemented it in the highest law and to make disobeying those laws punishable by death. Women aren't allowed to be educated, women can't be outside without a family escort, can't own property, aren't allowed to work and earn profit, can't choose their husband, can't vote, etc etc. All this is outlined very clearly in Islam and Quaranic law. Their theory isn't wrong, it's that when you give women the same authority and power over their environments that men have, the number of children per woman falls below replacement (below 2.1), which is now the case in western countries (between 1.7 and 1.9). American and European population would be in 5-15% decline per year if not for the weekly boatloads of immigrants and refugees from other parts of the world with these surplus humans. Go to any Arab country, their women have no purpose except to breed, and thus women have on average 5 to 8 successful children which grow up and do the same.

          It's interesting how this subreddit and Mohammad's ideals over 1400 years ago have arrived at the same conclusions. Hopefully you won't be converting to Islam since their ideals on the subjugation of women as much lesser people are compatible.

          [–]Satou4 11 points12 points  (3 children)

          Please stop dealing in absolutes. Things were fine in the 1920s. There's no need to adopt stone age, undeveloped values of barbarians. Just stop helping women make decisions for their children or their government. They're hardly ever honest with what they actually want, so how can we trust them to vote according to what they want, and not what they think will give them status with their social circle?

          We're not going to cut off heads because some sex slaves decided to flee the caliphate. We have much higher moral standards than that here. Women aren't trash. They just need a bit of guidance. Until they can start being honest, that is.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

          You're not getting it dude. In the end, in the end, it's their culture that will survive, while the West implodes. And in the end, the true end, survival is all that matters. How you got there? Doesn't matter.

          [–]anon35202 4 points5 points  (3 children)

          In some twisted sense Islam, ISIS, koranic law, sharia law, and the middle eastern arab culture are a superior culture in the eyes of evolution and natural selection than the western countries.

          It is because they breed 6 babies per couple to grow, and we breed one or two which is decline into irrelevance. When there are 10000 chocolate brown Allah Akbar yelling Arab Muslims walking around in america for every single native white western Caucasian, it wont matter how much more advanced our technology is in wartime. The enemy will have surrounded us, denying us jobs, being the general leading the armies to cleanse the world of the enemies of america: the infidel.

          American women who love America and its flag and the western culture it represents, persuade them to have twice or three times as many babies as they think is ideal. The survival of Western culture depends on it.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Agreed with the last part. But good luck on that. They love their bad boys until they hit the wall. Then get some beta shmuck to pop out one or two kids before they hit 40. Then after 40 they divorce said beta shmuck and take his money and resources. What kind of moron thinks that's a good deal???

          [–]Leviticus59 12 points13 points  (1 child)

          Heh! The best part is the next part:

          I dated him for 10 months when I thought he was penniless, proof I'm not a fucking gold-digger.

          [–]anon35202 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          If she was honest with herself, then she would say: "I didn't like his style and didn't enjoy who he wanted to be". The money having changed her mind about how much she liked him is plenty of proof. How does money change whether she likes his grungy car, guitar playing and sit-at-home with beer and documentary watching style? The guy comes across as a layabout.

          But then you can't blame her, women go after money and security the same way men go after sexy boobs and butts, it's stamped right on our DNA and limbic system. You can't just wish it away.

          She liked him, but he came across as a poor drifter and wanderer. Normally I would criticize her for her expectation of the male to be the provider, but the problem is I took a course on Anthropology and Biology, and expecting people to transcend these primal desires is as foolish as her expectation for a man to want to take care of her.

          The answer she craves is right under her nose. He didn't really like you enough to keep you around. So keep looking for the next best thing, that's how the jungle goes. Not sure why there has to be so much second guessing. You play the game, sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. In either case you do what you got to do.

          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Its because most women equate love to material things and money spent. It's why they care about the wedding and the groom just says "whatever honey". Its why they want the most expensive ring possible. Or why they are more likely to get their friends small gifts than men.

          Its a major area of disconnect between the two genders

          [–]Dragon_Garoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          And such is the start of someone being BP'd... and BB'd... a decline that starts with disrespect of finances, and that ends in divorce rape.

          [–]yomo86 303 points304 points  (61 children)

          This story has been around for a couple of years. Honestly, it reads like RP porn - and is heavily on point and data-driven garnered with some feelings sounding like a man who tried to hide his identity.

          But on the other side.

          Will is not RP in any way. He was lacking a mission, any mission, in life. Even his guitar sessions are more distractions rather than passion.

          Furthermore, if he wants her to stay aka comittment he has to dish out nuggets of providership. In terms of plating he over-invested by giving up his time so freely. So this is neither fish nor fowl. I can't really blame her. She invested one year of her short SMV-span into a man who was a good guy and she was quite okay with coffee dates and the like, though she acted entitleed, but human nature is human nature after all - men want to have sex on a regular basis, women want to have a modicum of security for herself and possible children and as it seems to me she kept her part of the deal. After one year things did not really progressed in any way. Judged solely on the facts, as a man, I would not want to get pregnant by a dude, stay in a relationship, or whatever who is a walking dead.

          Basically, she, a woman, fell ill to her hypergamy only to strangled by seller's remorse turned sour. If she stayed with her beta-provider who did not even work for his providerdom, this story would go on, on how she fucked the pool boy.

          [–]TriggeringEveryone 25 points26 points  (4 children)

          I think it's fake.

          This bitch has a reddit account that she's only posted with twice in several years? Please.

          Oh, it's obviously a throwaway? Yes, it's completely normal to use the same throwaway a year later when you are going to subtly change the story you gave the previous time you used the throwaway, just so people can call you out and make you look like a greedy gold-digger.

          It's also normal to remember the throwaway password after a year.

          [–]Leviticus59 10 points11 points  (2 children)

          I kinda agree. It's just too sterotypically perfect.

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            [–]wheresMYsteakAt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            People using throwaways on relationship subs arent using keepass to keep track of their many different accounts and passwords, they most likely reuse passwords.

            [–]Macheako 62 points63 points  (22 children)

            He was able to provide. He wasnt providing her with what SHE thought she deserved...but, that dont mean shit. Dude did nothing wrong. To any half way intelligent woman this guy is a catch. Not only is he sitting on securitu, he has the self discipline to make it last. Hes glowing with security out the ass.

            He didnt give her the flashy life that she could use to make other bitches jealous. She aint a terrible person, but she sure as fuck aint wholesome either. Will was a solid dude in this story.

            [–]yomo86 48 points49 points  (17 children)

            I see your point. My take in this is on the homo economicus side. She is aging, probably wants kids and after one year what has she gotten? Potato soup and torrented documentaries. From what she wrote she put up with a light-headed lifestyle out of feelings for one year. In my book she is a keeper, most girls can't make it past the first date without playing the hypergamy roulette in their head.

            Living frugally is one thing. Being entitled is also one thing. But planning a future family based on a guy with no ambition and prima facia no potential is not what you want; be it based on the biological imperative or on a conscious level. The inheritance is a game changer for sure - the problem of no ambition, no potential still persists.

            [–]capsigrany 29 points30 points  (8 children)

            She thought he has no ambition or potential, and so she moved. He still has no ambition or potential...

            Then I don't see why she is sobbing or regretting nothing. She should be content with its former decision as she was totally right...

            [–]HobKing 12 points13 points  (6 children)

            Right, but ambition is only good for gaining financial security, which she didn't know he already had.

            Tbh I totally get where she's coming from. If this sub espouses the idea that men are to be the providers, why would the sub fault her for leaving someone who had, as yomo86 put, "no ambition and no prima facie potential"?

            To criticize her for that is to criticize the very basis of this sub.

            [–]1sailorJery 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            she simply ended things without trying to communicate with him what she expects out of a relationship.

            [–]Macheako 14 points15 points  (6 children)

            Heh, I actually thought 10 months wasnt THAT long on her part. Not to mention she never appeared to actually talk about any of those things (kids,marriage,etc) with Will; based off the story. She just assumed he wouldnt be "par the course" for what SHE wanted outta the relationship.

            Men and Women used to get married and THEN build up together. If the "entry level" for pussy is now to have all this flashy, showy, dumb material shit....what kind of society are we building? What are women saying is important about a Man? What are Men saying about themselves?

            I cant speak for you, but Im more than my fucking TV set, if a bitch cant appreciate that, like hell am I gonna appreciate her. I value living frugally. Look at how much consumerism is royally fucking this planet in half....and were gonna let women choose mates by THIS standard?

            Im glad you can appreciate this cum dumpster, but Im personally holding out for something just a little less cunty and shallow lol. Fuck bitches like this man, we arent our "toys". If my worth is defined by how much dumb shit I can buy some vain cunt....then ill just have to define myself lol but I aint wasting this one shot at life on that dumb shit, thats for damned sure.

            [–]Yogiwolf 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            This story was also told from her perspective. Maybe the guitar lessons were his passion. Art is a highly underpaid area yet provides immense satisfaction to some. Being an alpha is not always seeking what other alphas are. The dude stuck to his guns and what makes him happy.

            [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            tbh the guy is probably raised well by not blowing the money. He likely realizes that while it is 'his' it isn't 'his'. Any well raised person knows what I'm talking about. You might have rights to it but you didn't earn it yourself so why blow it?

            [–]Macheako 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            That's what I'm saying! lol

            Seriously, this "Will" is turning me on with all this talk about him saving that money and living by the code "If it ain't broke don't fix it!" haha Like that's a GREAT way to see shit!!!

            And that's sorta really my underlying point here, so thanks for picking up on that man. But Women today, and I do believe it's a "Modern" thing, though really it's just a result of the modern day state of society and that "state" could technically show up in any time period, but Women today value all the wrong things. They don't fuckin know what actually is good, or is bad for them. They're dodo birds just walkin themselves off a cliff lol

            And I mean, I "Love" em and all, but like....if you're REALLY dying to see what's at the bottom of that cliff, it's let her be an independent woman, right? lol. It sucks to see em walk themselves off this one, but not NEARLY as much if it was her AND me walking off that fuckin cliff. See ya!

            [–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            He was lacking a mission, any mission, in life.

            You're wrong.

            He was taught very very clearly by life or by parents that money makes other people around him fake. So he had to hide that to see what their real personality was like.

            His mission is to father babies and make sure his linage continues. He will need a mate in this god forsaken divorce environment. So he is treading as carefully as he possibly can.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Problem is she was 2-3 primeish years left and every guy is going to be compared to this similar aged millionaire (at least in assets).

            Not a good spot to be assuming she cant get over the whole money stuff.

            [–]precisionclear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            I have no trouble believing these posts. Plenty of my own life experiences were similar, and or much worse not just for one individual - but multiple. Now it doesn't seem strange at all. It's just normal.

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              [–]tallwheel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              He has abundance mentality at the very least. Either that or he just really wasn't very into her. LOL

              [–]clint_bronson 78 points79 points  (1 child)

              This has been posted before. I still remember when i was browsing TRP and got to see her first post mentioned here. And then, months later, the second.

              It was still as good a read as it was back then.

              [–]1empatheticapathetic 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              Yes part 2 has been posted before.

              [–]2IVIaskerade 61 points62 points  (3 children)

              This is what an alpha widow looks like.

              [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (2 children)

              The sad thing is every guy after him will be compared to that financial barometer - and how many millionaire 20-something guys looking to settle down with someone like this are realistically out there?

              [–]muddynips 12 points13 points  (1 child)

              What's even sadder is that there are plenty of guys willing to love and fuck her in the exact same way. But she can't help but compare, and will be ruined by it.

              If she was willing to see men as bonding partners instead of career opportunities, this would be nothing more than a learning experience.

              [–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

              Lol, she expected to text and talk on the phone after they broke up? The other guys she's done that with had lots of time to waste. Will obviously values his time and doesnt want to waste it by texting her.

              [–]Banned-in-Boston 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              Makes you wonder how she would have reacted to a Prenup Talk at that time, instead of dumping him.

              [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 12 points13 points  (0 children)

              Potato Soup Man is a legend around these parts.

              [–]red-pill-man 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              In other news, Skittles man treats a plate like a plate.

              Film at 11.

              [–]Docbear64 11 points12 points  (1 child)

              I just feel so low right now. If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her? He said he "saw me in his future", why didn't he care enough to share these things with me? He could have easily kept our relationship alive by being forthcoming.

              This is my favorite part of the whole thing . I get that the woman wasn't interested in idling by in life that she needed some sense of direction or to know what the future held for her relationship Except .... to me this reads like it's not about the future at all . It's not about are we going to have kids , are we building a life together, do we make each other happy . In fact the reason she was unhappy and broke up with him in the first place was she saw what other people had , got jealous, and felt like Will or some new man should be taking care of her the way some of her facebook friends were being taken care of . Not once did she mention personal goals or an internal motivation to attain more she needs a workhorse to take care of her and show off her success with .

              Whether Will is real or not this was a vapid bitch with notions of jealousy driven by social media . Will had no reason to share or rush to to share the secrets of his wealth with her and if he did she would start making plans for not " his money " but "our money" .

              Whether this story is real or not Will showed absolute abundance , the chick is broken because she had a lotto ticket , didn't realize it , and found out it was good after it expired. She's mourning what she could have had not the fact she lost a relationship with Will and that''s exactly why he's fortunate she showed her true colors before too long .

              Sue enough 9 months later Will has a new girl who digs him , she has been pumped and dumped, and she once more turns into a pile of misery at the opportunity she unwittingly lost .

              I get many men here don't agree with how Will manages his life and that's fair but this chick was not a winner no matter how you slice it Wills life is better without her in it .

              [–]Tirfing88 10 points11 points  (1 child)

              This shite sounded fake when I first read it and sounds fake now. Probably something a fucking fedora nice guy made up one day. Red pill is amazing, but not this fantasy revenge porn.

              [–]Ivabighairy1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Women don't marry for money

              They divorce for it

              [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

              i just love she rewrites history from

              The next time I was over at Will's ... I ended the relationship.

              into:

              he threw away our relationship over nothing.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              That's what we call rationalisation, or here "the hamster"

              [–]1ozaku7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Mind that he threw the relationship away by not spending money on her. Nowhere do you read about her efforts to talk to him about the future, talk about what she wants in life, and giving each other the chance to better themselves. She just went straight for the breakup because his ass was seemingly to her broke.

              [–]throwdownshowdownman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              It does kinda give you that wholesome movie feeling at the end there

              [–]DB_2014 7 points8 points  (1 child)

              Sounds like my uncle. The guy is worth millions, yet he drives halfway across town in his beat up Honda to use an ice cream coupon. Save, save, save. That's the key.

              As far as those of you dissing Will for potatoe soup and shitty clothes, keep in mind his priority wasn't keeping the girl, it was keeping his money. He had his priorities straight. Not saying every guy needs to wear shit clothes and serve cheap food, but his mentality was in the right place. He had boundaries for his life and didn't allow a female to change those one bit.

              [–]n4ru 7 points8 points  (2 children)

              I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of shit for this, but I don't think she did anything wrong. I make decent money and I make my girlfriend give me her entire paycheck because I handle the finances (she gets a small allowance for food from her own check). We're semi frugal and she knows she will not see serious splurging until we have the money to retire indefinitely. We both work our fair share and the financial decisions are ultimately mine, and she knows better than to question if I put my foot down. But despite not being loaded she knows there is at least some plan. This dude sounds like a bum with a secret stash he's hoarding.

              The dude didn't have have to tell her he was rich, but if he was interested he should have mentioned there was a plan. I don't think he missed out on anything and if he didn't care that's fine, but to expect women to stay in a relationship with no future is silly to me. She missed out but I wouldn't actually say she necessarily fucked up.

              If you didn't know the dude was loaded, you could imagine this guy was a bum from her description. If true, why would she date a bum who never did anything? Fuck buddies are one thing, but sounds like he didn't give her anything to go on.

              Don't get me wrong, this definitely worked out in his favor, but I just don't see why she was in the wrong otherwise than embellishing herself in the story.

              [–]1Ramesses_[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Hah I don't see why you'd get shit for that, seems like an accurate assessment. The AWALT parts are the solipsism and rationalisation. I'm very much amused by how she struggles to see what was really going on. She's not wrong, it's just funny. She can do whatever she wants. I don't think she fucked up - Will probably just was not that into her and when she said she was leaving he pointed to the door. That's what makes him a legend. If he'd liked her more he probably would have told her about the money at an earlier stage.

              Also don't forget we're only hearing her side of the story and judging by her re-writing history from her breaking up with him for having no ambition to her breaking up with him for lying and him throwing away their relationship it's also likely she's exaggerated or straight up lied about other aspects for affect. For one, the potato soup + torrenting documentary is designed to really point out what a tightass he is. I'm not saying that part's not accurate but there's likely more balance to the real Will, i.e. ways in which he's a tightass and ways in which he's generous, ways in which he's unmotivated and ways in which he's motivated. She heavily emphasises the appearance of things (shitty car, old clothes) - his behaviour could have been laser focused and motivated with his music. It probably was because if he's as much of a bum as she would NOW have us believe, why would she be attracted to him in the first place? Hamstering about this fits in perfectly with the rest of her rationale. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy even had another job as well that she neglected to mention in her re-writing of history.

              For the record I think some of what the red pill deems AWALT is actually cultural and specific to America (I am not American). AWALT for me is things like solipsism and hypergamy - hard wired biological and instinctual behaviours. Things like entitlement don't strike me as hard wired into females - that's just cultural. Saudi men act entitled with women, spoiled children of both genders act entitled with their parents.

              I feel like I've never had experiences with women who cared more about my money than me. Maybe they did, who knows. My longest LTR was 4 years and spanned uni to beginning career. I was poorer than her until we started working and then I was making more. Regardless we pooled our money for things like rent, groceries, trips, etc and then kept the rest to ourselves. After we broke up I started spending like mad. I was definitely better off financially when I was with her. She was legitimately good with money, got me on a budget, organised my savings - had a millionaire next door type Dad who ingrained this shit in her from a young age. So I doubt it's an AWALT female trait to just spend a man's money or even her own money without regard. Some women like my ex are brilliant planners and very good savers.

              In summary, don't read too much into the posts and comments you find here. Some guys are angry, some guys are ignorant, some guys are new, some guys are just plain stupid. This is the internet. It's a mixed bag.

              [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

              "I'm not gonna a lie..." Bwahahahaha.

              [–]TominatorXX 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              Where was this posted? Her story I mean? Relationship?

              [–]bloodthorn1990 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              originally was posted on twox

              [–]1Entropy-7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              I think this story has made the rounds before.

              What baffles me is that she didn't even attempt "The Talk" but just decided to dump his ass and then surprise, bitch!

              But ya, it goes from her being a materialistic cunt to him being "dishonest".

              [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              Yeah clearly she's not a gold digger, wtf how much can you lie to yourself hahahhahah. This is fucking tremendous.

              [–]imbeciI 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              I stopped reading midthrough.

              TO LAUGH MY FUCKING ASS OFF!

              [–]Understooddit 12 points13 points  (7 children)

              I was ready to marry the last gf I had, and she was always arguing that we should wait until my company starts to make money.

              It started to work out for me, and I could pay myself and change my old car. She went crazy about it, like I was spending her money. The thing I never told her is that I had more than she could ever think of on my bank account, but I always had been cautious with my money and never wanted to be loved for it. I was acting "poor" but always paid for restaurants and shit like this "because I can".

              "How can you, you haven't made a cent during the last two year ?"

              I never answered more than : "I still have a few bucks on my bank account, enough to live for months, don't worry about it love".

              During the two weeks before the split-up she was fucking insane bat shit crazy and trying to make me crazy. Raging, insulting, unforgiving the tinniest mistakes. I was about to buy the car, but she was insulting me about everything else except this. Texting "asshole" because I did not want to go shopping with her considering she was insulting me 24/7 for 2 weeks now.

              We got into a big dispute, after 2h of me stoically waiting for her to stop, I slapped her bitching mouth because at the moment, I was sure it was the only way she would never want to me see again, I wasn't courageous enough to tell that insulting bitch to fuck off.

              After all, AWALTS. Tho, I'm still stupid enough to keep dreaming about having a wife and kids and a nice normal life. It's been a year, I still feel like utter shit for what I've done.

              I spent 6 years with her, we met when we were both at college (different ones). I spent 7 with the one before. I'm 34 and the life I wanted since I'm a kid may never happen to me. I may never recover from TRP "she" forced me to eat.

              ps : english isn't my first langage, feel free to correct me

              [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 6 points7 points  (3 children)

              TRP is the truth of human relationship dynamics. One of these truths is that all women seek to pair long-term with the man who is the most able to provide her and her offspring with safety and comfort. She's not in this "for love only".

              Just like TRP teaches men the bitter truth that to attract a girl into your bed you need to be attractive, not nice. The other bitter truth is that to get a long term partner you need to provide, not "be loved just for who you are".

              [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              swallowing the pill is the hardest part. once you see the truth you can't go back.

              [–]tallwheel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              During the two weeks before the split-up she was fucking insane bat shit crazy and trying to make me crazy. Raging, insulting, unforgiving the tinniest mistakes. I was about to buy the car, but she was insulting me about everything else except this. Texting "asshole" because I did not want to go shopping with her considering she was insulting me 24/7 for 2 weeks now.

              It's amazing how much women think they can get away with in an LTR as soon as they start to feel a little secure. One of the reasons is that there are so many fucking betas who will apologize and try to appease her in order to "save the relationship".

              You're fortunate to have been able to break it off when you did, even if it wasn't on the terms you would have preferred.

              [–]putsomecolourson 13 points14 points  (7 children)

              This guy is my new idol. I lost it when I read "he served me potato soup for dinner". I hope for his sake he's read this post.

              [–]redpillchill 17 points18 points  (3 children)

              Yeah, this girl sounds exactly like my ex girlfriend. The chilling part is the reframing of the breakup nearly every time we see eachother. In her eyes I wasn't willing to commit, had eyes for other girls, that I broke up with her, that I wasn't a good boyfriend anyway, etc..

              The true reality of it is that she felt entitled to more of my shit than I was willing to give, and she kept pushing it and pushing it until I finally grew balls and told her no. I should've shown her the door 1 month into our relationship. She gave absolutely nothing in our relationship and was a complete leech. It's amazing to see how she can rewrite history to fit whatever the fuck she feels in the moment.

              The suggested readings from RP have helped me really piece together reality.

              [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              it's not just your ex, I'd say most will spin the story to feed the hamster. especially if they regret the break up, they will invent bad things that never happened or highly exaggerate negative events, just to justify to themselves that it was a good idea to break up.

              [–]1Entropy-7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I refer to this as "ret-conning, from the fictional narrative technique to change historical events to make the present story better.

              After you break up with a girl the historical facts and the facts on the ground at the time are less important to her than being able to make sense of things in her mind and being able to tell a good story to friends and family as to why the relationship ended (typically by making you look like an asshole).

              [–]Dragon_Garoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              They always reframe; sometimes, during the actual breakup. Last plate I nexted literally made it sound like she made the choice, lol. byeeeeeeeee

              [–]hipstersdontlie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Yeah definately the best part. And then the loaded guy crowns it with torrented documentary. Because frugality.

              [–]Starter91 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Now i want a potato soup for a dinner :(

              [–]tanqop 3 points4 points  (2 children)

              I hadn't seen part 2 yet. Thank you for posting. I can't help but smile about this story. This girl deserves what she's got.

              [–]top_zozzle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Holy fuck Potato Soup Guy is a boss

              [–]Bielzabutt 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              The hamster runs strong in this one.

              [–]thechaosz 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              Will is a rich hippie with alpha traits. He CAN give no fucks because he's loaded, not because of some lifestyle of kicking ass, working out, pursuing passions. Almost like a pseudo alpha/RP you could say. He would super stressed working minimum wage and trying to live that life of his (I know people of ages still doing this)

              If he spent some money on experiences and travel I would more keen to condone his lifestyle. As long as his place clean and car I wouldn't have problems there .

              Just sitting in your ass and Netflix and chilling with life changing money would be boring as fuck

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                [–]fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                Haha. Cunty tried to played the cunt card and got discarded for being a cunt.

                [–]bigtonebone93 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                Any one have the link to the original post?

                [–]frankreyes 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                [–]alphabachelor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Thanks. Both parts are still on Reddit but part 1 has been completely mod nuked.

                [–]The_Heyyze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                My guy Will. He might just be the king of savagery. He basically was a savage while not even trying to be. Good stuff.

                Also, I like how after she found out he was loaded, she suddenly "wants him back so bad".

                [–]ScarletNumbers 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                after seeing a girl I knew from high school buy her 3rd property with her husband

                I'm sure she bought it with her husband's money

                [–]Gbcue 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I thought he was penniless, proof I'm not a fucking gold-digger.

                Yet she broke up with him over money. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

                [–]casemodsalt 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                My favorite part was the torrenting.

                [–]wheresMYsteakAt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Probably a documentary about the history of shoe laces or something she has no interest in as he sits there captivated by the screen eating potato soup.

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                [–]Yogiwolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                link, if you would good sir?

                [–]Juan-San 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                So which one of you fuckers is Will?

                [–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                10 months when he was penniless!! wow! better hand over half of his shit amirite guys? guys?? oh...

                [–]GOATmar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Frugal is very smart in the long run, and it can be quite addicting especially if you become proficient at negotiating/finding deals

                But

                And this is coming from probably the least superstitious person you will ever meet

                I've noticed the more Frugal my Mindset, the worse my """fortune"""

                When I switch from Frugal to Abundance, just like fortune with women, my finances see success.

                Fucking bizarre but Poor isn't a status, it is a state of mind... and it is poisonous.

                I still spend """Smart""", but dont go to great lengths to save as much money as possible... if that makes sense.

                [–]ntvirtue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Holy crap if you could hook her hamster up to a generator it would meet the power needs of the entire world!

                [–]AllahHatesFags 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                It's like what would happen IRL in that Eddie Murphy movie Coming to America.

                [–]Desadarius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                "My friends were all making life gains"

                AKA money gains. This bitch is retarded.

                [–]Qerus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Bro this is the funniest shit ever. Saved

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                [–]ApollosSin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Anyone have the comments from TwoX?

                [–]Baltais 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                This deserves a gold and a sticky!!! Everyone should read this!!!

                [–]Xoramung 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Chad. and Billy. and introducing Will.

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                [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                He could've said something, ANYTHING during our break up when I was explaining my doubts about our relationship. Instead he said nothing, and now he refuses to talk to me. It makes absolutely no sense.

                Nope. Makes no sense at all. Why would a woman have a wonderful relationship and let it go to shit because her BF doesn't make enough money. It's almost like women have some weird instinct that makes them seek out men with money. Weird.

                she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me.

                Sorry sweets. That is called "mate guarding." You see, when a girl likes a boy she wants to keep him, not trade him in for a model with more money. Fucking gold diggers can't see the forest for the trees.

                just started sobbing uncontrollably.

                I bathe in female tears. Fuck you whore and enjoy your cats or the poor stupid fucker you trap.

                [–]Desadarius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                This is what happened.

                This guy managed to give her tingles for 10 months straight before she got bored.

                She was bored of him so she tried to turn him into beta bux, and would have soon started fucking other guy(s) on the side.

                She failed, so she broke it off so she could continue riding the CC freely without worry of being caught.

                Soon she realized her mistake, and, as all girls do (AWALT), hamstered herself into being the victim.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Sounds like Will is a good dude. Never let the money turn him into a crazy degenerate and even after the break up where she treated him as a utility he still went and talked to her and showed by remembering details that he felt a bond with her while they were together, never showing bitterness as far as the story goes. Then pieces out.

                And this chick wouldn't be sobbing over him if he didn't have money.

                [–]RepostGhostCst2Cst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                This story is pretty rad, but honestly, this guy sounds like he'd be a bore to be around. He's good at dealing with break ups because they're happening to him every 10 months.

                I'm all for the way he handed it, but doesn't TRP preach pushing yourself and just being an exciting person overall...?

                [–]pentakiller19 9 points10 points  (42 children)

                I don't understand why everyone is demonizing her like she's some lying, manipulative, cheater or something. She did what any rational person would do.

                [–]frankreyes 50 points51 points  (19 children)

                You're poor? You don't have any life purpose, I don't like you. Oh, I'm sorry, you're rich you say? I love you and miss you and want to have your babies!

                [–]WhoSweg 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                Not agreeing with either party, but if you wanted an LTR with someone, you'd want them to be goal oriented and have a career? You wouldn't just choose some random checkout girl at the local supermarket (I mean you might but I know I couldn't live with one of them for my life).

                I don't do LTRs but I want to one day once I've had my fun. Seeing all of my friends get fucked over by them opens my eyes up (I also got fucked over by one but that's another story for another day)

                [–]sixseven89 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                you'd want them to be goal oriented and have a career?

                Sure, but she's expecting him to be the Beta Bucks. There's also no indication that she was goal oriented. She couldn't accept the fact that he should provide for himself and she should provide for herself.

                [–]pentakiller19 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                Exactly. If my s/o sits on her ass all day and does nothing I'm going to break up with her.

                [–]needless_pickup_line 7 points8 points  (9 children)

                Scenario: For 10 months you date a really great girl who treats you well, but is about 40 pounds overweight. You talk to her about health and the importance of sexual attraction, but she says she's happy how things are. You break up with her, she says nothing. Two months later, she's lost all the weight and looks great.

                Do you want to get back together?

                [–]frankreyes 27 points28 points  (5 children)

                It is non comparable. Your analogy is flawed: he was always rich, and only in her imagination he was poor. She then spins it by saying that she "couldn't come to terms with his lying by omission". And this is the root of all her conflict: she regrets dumping him, not because he changed after the break-up, but that he never had this "issue" in the first place. The only deception was done by herself in her own imagination. She saw him as a person without life purpose, when in fact he had his life things right where he wanted to be. She is a gold digger, and I would have done the same with her.

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                The whole bit about being jealous of some acquaintance who's on her third property is where I completely lost any and all sympathy for her. Like, who the hell EXPECTS that for themselves, at any time, let alone at 26?! Maybe he spotted something in her that made him keep his financial status close to his chest? We don't have his side of the story.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                No, because if revenge is the only thing that will motivate her to maintain a healthy weight, something is clearly wrong with her.

                [–]Dragon_Garoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Never happens. Two months later, she's bigger, riding the CC and hamstering to everyone how you fat shamed her.

                [–]Charlie-Waffles 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                More like the guy appeared to have no motivation or interest to better himself. It had nothing to do with the money because according to the first story she found out after they broke up.

                The chick cared about him but figured out she couldn't get him to try and better himself. Would you want to date a lazy person? The guy is a loser who has a trust fund. Good for him.

                [–]Macheako 5 points6 points  (8 children)

                Im really getting tired of people miss using the term "rational". The idea only makes sense when discussing some kind of end goal. If you have no goal in life, then your goal is merely survival, and being rational only applies to what you do towards meeting that goals requirements.

                If I want a banana, its not rational for me to stick a dildo up my ass, but if i want to feel the male g spot, sticking a dildo up my ass IS rational. So what changed?

                The stated goals. So if youre gonna say her actions were rational, youre gonna have to address "to what ends were her actions rational". If the ends were pure selfish desire, sure, shes being rational, but if her goals include other things, like not being a D bag....then not so much.

                But please. Stop ass fucking my languange and logic, its all we have to communicate lol. I dont wanna lose that ability.

                [–]DigitallyDisrupt 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                Im really getting tired of people miss using the term "rational"

                Good ole Muphry's law. Not one, but TWO grammatical errors in the first sentence.

                [–]pbar 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                Muphry? This is like fractal version of Murphy's law, that keeps branching off into new posts, and each new post also has an eror.

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                The difference is men are honest in what they desire, both to themselves and society. Women aren't.

                So if the above played out with genders reversed the man likely wouldn't care. We are not raised to expect support financially. We are raised to take care of a woman if she is lazy, in a bad spot, wants to stay at home, etc.

                [–]yellowthing 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                It would make sense if he couldn't afford things and wouldn't help himself. But he frugal, and never struggled for anything. That is stability, it just wasn't enough for her.

                What she should have done was seek out her own personal financial success and security (through her own earnings, not a divorce court) rather than looking for someone to provide for her. However, we know the general Western School of Thought for women is that they are owed things. Her entitlement gave it away the most.

                [–]SympatheticChad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                What's funny is her hamster wheel between first and second posts about why she dumped him, and why she wanted to get back together. ("I just melted in his arms" lololol)

                [–]alphabachelor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                After 10 months of dating, she could have had a mature discussion about her expectations instead of dumping him based on assumptions.

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                  [–]Macheako 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Yea, but remember, we helped get em there. So maybe we need to talk about how we need to change?

                  [–]casemodsalt 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                  To me it's bad because she expects the guy to accomodate and provide for her. It proves she was either broke herself or made even less than him...or nothing at all...

                  [–]jetsetter883 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Tbh he sounds like a bit of a loser who just happened to walk into some money. I would have broken up with him too if I were that girl. People who are religiously frugal, whether they have money or not, are supremely obnoxious. It also seems like he is probably ashamed of his wealth since it was inherited

                  [–]cantFindValidNam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  She left a guy who seemingly was without a mission or vision and didn't make any effort to show he was on top of things. What a whore indeed.

                  [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (15 children)

                  I dated him for 10 months when I thought he was penniless, proof I'm not a fucking gold-digger.

                  i find it hard to argue with that. not the best data point for AWALT

                  [–]Phoenixtorment 44 points45 points  (6 children)

                  She digged for 10 months, found no gold and dumped him.

                  A Golddigger.

                  [–]needless_pickup_line 2 points3 points  (5 children)

                  Just for the sake of argument:

                  If you dated a girl for 10 months and only got vanilla sex, then found out she's secretly a freak, what would you do?

                  [–]Clapboom 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                  Implying if she had found out he was rich before dumping him she still would be upset and dump him?

                  Lmao. Sure bud. She wouldn't have cared at all if she had found out BEFORE.

                  [–]WhoSweg 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                  That's what he's saying? Like as a guy if all you've been getting is so missionary for 10 months sometimes a bit of doggy you're going to be bored as fuck, so you dump her and say "blah blah" only to then a few weeks later talk to her friends (extremely unlikely) and just say "we were just not sexually compatible she wouldn't even let me cum on her face" and one of them pisses themselves walks away you then ask the other one "what was funny" next friend goes "we've seen her have a train ran on her by a football team whilst she got tied up" or some shit (maybe not the train extremely extremely bad example but it's a proof that she would do a lot more than just a bit of doggy, but you wouldn't want that as an LTR, and a better example maybe is "she has a tumblr of her ex relationships and she's got a whole bunch of BDSM gear under her bed!!!") you'd think to yourself like "well shit I've been had over here, damn I'd love to tie her up and xyz"

                  [–]Phoenixtorment 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Then she is changing her behaviour when she is with me, the rich guy from the story is not. He is the same with or without her.

                  [–]xx315 24 points25 points  (1 child)

                  Except...she broke up with him over money.

                  [–]Omnibrad 46 points47 points  (1 child)

                  She thinks her dating him is proof that she is not a gold digger. She is wrong.

                  Her breaking up with him because of his "lack of career" is proof that she is a gold digger. Her overwhelming desire to get with a man, considering the only thing that changed was her knowledge of his bank account, is proof she is a gold digger.

                  [–]matthewzz1997 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                  To me, it seems like more lack of proof she is a gold digger than proof she is not. Small difference but big implications.

                  [–]Chavagnatze 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  All women need gold and they dig for it; its just the amount they need and when they need the gold. There is a minimum barrier to entry for all markets. She smelled gold. That's why she stuck around so long. A man that is capable of dutifully sustaining a lifestyle, no matter how relatively meager, is evidence of utility in and of itself. She saw potential just in the fact that he wasn't on a roller coaster.

                  [–]casemodsalt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  She wasn't an "immediate gold digger" but she was still influenced by others on what her perception of a long term relationship should be. To her, it meant her partner (the man) making more money as time goes on, and then buying a nice house and car (and obviously a nice car for her).

                  Women are always under the impression that their looks grant them a certain amount of money from their partner. That's why she broke up with him.

                  The fact that she complained about the potato soup and torrenting (torrenting was my favorite part) proves it got to her and she wanted to go out on expensive dinners and movies. Women play mental gymnastics all the time and this is no different.

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