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MetaSeriously think about who’s writing the shit you read here. You need to learn to think/judge for yourselves. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by broek_325

There was a recent post about how to destroy females by being alpha and beta. Some of the comments were gold dust, (as ever, comments often contain the real advice, not the posts themselves), but only a few people seemed to actually consider who the fuck the OP was.

Well, judging from post history, OP is an asexual, female/male (who knows?) who frequents 2X and probably has a plethora of mental health issues. At the very least they are a troll.

Yet most of the comments are singing praise and agreeing with him/her/it. The problem is, people follow the herd. The post gains upvotes, so it must be fact. Rather than reading it and thinking for themselves, they’ll just take it as gospel, add another upvote, and be on their way.

Now, aside from GLO, I can’t think of many people here that actually have a face to the name. So of course, the majority of posts you read, you can’t really tell who’s posting or who’s genuine. Think twice before you start changing behaviours and listening to shit you read here, especially when posted by randoms. You really want to take some theory back to your plates which was in fact made up by some fat hambeast with bipolar?

Read the sidebar, read endorsed posts, read posts which have been commended/approved by endorsed members. Then read the random FR’s and theories, and judge for yourself if they seem real, but keep your head screwed on. Just because the main user base agrees and gives upvotes, doesn’t mean the post is worth shit.

There’s a huge amount of great content here posted by non endorsed members, I’m not saying to ignore it. Just use that brain. If a post seems like BS it probably is.

Some of the best posts here, with real RP advice from men who have experienced the shit, often get very few upvotes and disappear only to be found in searches. Remember that.

TL:DR - don’t be gullible. Nothing new here. Listen to the senior people, take everything else with a pinch of salt. If you can’t read a post and take away your own conclusions from it, you’re probably in trouble.


[–]Tarmyniatur 520 points521 points  (46 children)

I love it when I click on a interesting title or theme and the first row is "I'm a 19yo college freshman, here's how to day game in a campus".

[–]PhantomNishobrah 198 points199 points  (3 children)

"freshman in high school here, just got my first plate"

[–]DonaldBaelish 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Here in my garage, just fucked this new plate.

[–]trash_dad 124 points125 points  (0 children)

Ya I read everything on here in the voice of an awkward 18 year old now because of shit like this 😂

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (31 children)

Seriously just talk to people how hard is it. I've seen field reports of "hey I just went and spoke to a women, please pat me on the back". Speaking to another human shouldn't be challenging, if it is you should seek some sort of therapy or counseling, not some internet tough guy subreddit.

[–]Denver_Luv3 39 points40 points  (3 children)

Seriously just talk to people how hard is it

Depends on who you are and where you're starting from. I periodically link to Krauser's post Reveal vs Restructure because it has the best discussion of the issue I've seen.

So why the divergence in opinion? I think it comes down to which side of this divide you fall on. Is your Journey a process of:

Uncovering a pre-existing SMV and personality that is attractive to women, or;

Ridding yourself of a Pussy Repellent virus and then building an attractive man from scratch.

The tChads are normal men with normal social skills and outlook and inhabit bodies that are reasonably attractive to a wide range of women. Some will require more work than others but all are building on a strong base. It’s like cooking a meal starting with fresh organic high quality ingredients. These men already have decent value, they just lack a Value Delivery Mechanism*** Teaching them Game is like having an out-of-shape teenage Usain Bolt show up on his first day of Learn To Sprint School. They have to put in the work but the rewards are almost immediate. There’s never any real struggle.

I have met guys who have basically no social skills, no physical skills (lifting, running, nothing), and as a result almost no positive interactions with women who aren't there mother. For that guy it will be very hard.

[–]Art3mis2093 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have met guys who have basically no social skills, no physical skills (lifting, running, nothing), and as a result almost no positive interactions with women who aren't there mother. For that guy it will be very hard.

I would go so far as saying that even these guys don't even positive interactions with their mothers. At least not in any sense that is conducive to them improving their skills/life/whatever. A good mother would point these things out, but perhaps in a less obtuse way to a good father.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Then get over it and make it not hard. You can complain all day about how unfair it is but it doesn't change the fact that men are required to either adapt and overcome or die.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (26 children)

Cold approach is incredibly hard when you first start doing it otherwise this subreddit wouldn’t be a thing. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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    [–]inspiredshane 11 points12 points  (9 children)

    The difficulty of approach is actually mostly a product of fear. Approach is easier when you’ve improved the other aspects of your life, true, but for many men it comes with it’s own set of new challenges, anxieties, and skills to be learned. It’s kind of like being afraid of clowns. The clowns aren’t going to hurt you, but your fear isn’t rational. You have to progressively, voluntarily desensitize yourself to your fear by taking consistent, small steps. And your irrational fear never truly dies. It just diminishes, and you realize there’s something inside of you that’s strong enough to take on the things you’re afraid of. As near as I can tell, this explains why even some highly successful and attractive men still suffer from approach anxiety and poor dating outcomes. I agree with a lot of what you’re saying; I just feel like the truth is a bit more complicated. If you told someone that improvement in every other area of their live would eliminate their irrational fear of elevators, for example, it might work sometimes, if they had to gain inner strength and confidence in dealing with those other issues that they could use as a source of courage to get on an elevator. But truly conquering the fear involves getting on the elevator. And many times, people use the idea of self-improvement in other areas just so they can avoid confronting that one thing that makes them the most afraid. For some men, that one thing is women. Sure, it’s irrational, but it’s still very difficult for them.

    Edit: spelling

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      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      That’s what I’m saying. But mr “no real life experience” over there just goes spouting bullshit magic like “cold approach becomes easy when you improve your value” and the plebs come in herds to shower him with upvotes because they just started reading the sidebar and want to believe that their RP journey will be easy.

      Nothing about it is easy and it takes tons of energy and effort to start. Admitting that to yourself is the first step to swallowing the pill

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          [–]Vaca_Sagrada 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          A psycopath? A depressed psychopath? I doubt it.

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            [–]Vaca_Sagrada 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Ok, so don't say you are a psychopath. You are not.

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              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              I guess I don't know, people are people. No reason to be afraid

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              It’s an irrational fear obviously. That doesn’t make it any less crippling for a beginner

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                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                Holy fuck, really? Those are staggeringly bad numbers.

                [–]GodLikeVelociraptor 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                Meanwhile I’m a middle aged multimillionaire and I get downvoted left and right. Ok, I’ll keep my life lessons to myself then.

                [–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Pff, join the club. If it isn't downvoted, it's a carefully crafted reply that doesn't even get a thank you. Now I'm not a millionaire, but I don't owe anybody a cent at this stage. Don't worry about the downvotes, there are so many blue pills and women here these days I don't pay any attention to the votes, and haven't actually for quite some time. There are lots of great comments in trp, sitting with 1 whole point. The smart people carefully read through them and use their fucking brains hopefully.

                [–]GodLikeVelociraptor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Oh, I don't give a single shit in response to downvotes.

                I think people naturally gravitate towards advice (right or wrong) from people's own age groups. Advice from an experienced 40 something is ignored because it's not what the 18 year old wants to hear.

                [–]Wraithwain 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                At least the titles don't sound like clickbait yet.

                "I got laid multiple times in one day! Here's how I did it."

                That would be dreadful.

                [–]mummersfarce_is_done 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Doctors hate him. He achieved 10 inch dick. Here's how...

                [–]martinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Hahahaha lmao exactly this

                [–]king_of_red_alphas 142 points143 points  (23 children)

                Personal annoyances:

                • Here’s my advice on shit tests. I’m 17 in high school and ...

                • Any woman over 30 is damaged goods and should be avoided ...

                • Every girl is secretly fucking Chad when you’re not watching ...

                • I was so alpha and banged this chick within 30 minutes of meeting her. Oh, forgot to mention, I’m a male model, but it was my rock solid frame that did it ...

                [–]cBIGONE 30 points31 points  (7 children)

                Especially the Chad one, even if it is motivating to improve your SMV.

                I think the more correct answer is "if I let my SMV go,and be a lazy fuck, she will fuck Chad then". Pending proper screening of course. Some women are just jumpers

                [–]AnAbsoluteSith 8 points9 points  (6 children)

                Nah bro you're just hamstering away the truth /s

                [–]3LiveAFTSOV 8 points9 points  (5 children)

                You're wrong if you believe that if you reach a certain level of alpha, your girl wont cheat on you.

                [–]AnAbsoluteSith 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                Has the capacity to cheat on you. Not that she is destined to cheat on you. And that subtle distinction is something a lot of folks here seem to miss. That is what AWALT means: it is in their nature to naturally take a specific course of action. They all want alpha. Doesn't matter how amazing she is, screw up consistently or long enough and she will cheat/leave. Heck don't screw up and she can still cheat on you. But because she has the capacity to do so doesn't mean she is as likely to do so as the Sluty Sue who you picked up at the club. This is why you cultivate your SMV to a point to where you attract women who are a lower risk. Can she? Yes. Will she? That's not always guaranteed.

                [–]3LiveAFTSOV 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                Sluty Sue who you picked up at the club.

                I agree with everything you said except this - Madonna / Whore complex.

                All women are slutty sues for the right guy at the right time.

                one man's prude is anothers whore etc

                [–]AnAbsoluteSith 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                That still doesn't leave the ambits of my argument. Of course she will, and it's something I've experienced enough times; corrupting seemingly nice women. I'm saying play your cards right and she will be your whore.

                If you have a complete defeatist mentality that "it is absolutely certain without any doubt that every woman will cheat on you", then might as well turn full MGTOW or gay (if only the latter option was so easy).

                [–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                every girl has potential to cheat on you, and also branch swing, look at celebs and pro sport guys who get cheated on

                only blue pillers disagree

                that's the reason why plates and fwbs exist. just dont be monogamous / marry them and it doesnt matter if they cheat or leave. Plates & FWBs defeats awalt.

                [–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Every woman will cheat on you or exploit you.

                But thankfully, there will always be another one to replace her.

                [–]Throwawaysteve123456 18 points19 points  (13 children)

                Or the people that want 'global' rules that are true 100% of the time. Or the I KNOW your gf is banging some other dude, trust me, posts. Basically just the generalizations. AWALT. FFS, that is the most overused term on this forum. No, that girl is like that. That term should be restricted to a handful of terms where it is accurate (e.g hypergamy), and not broadened to mean that because my ex-fiance banged the entire dallas cowboys last week, so did yours.

                [–]king_of_red_alphas 11 points12 points  (4 children)

                Lol exactly. The other fucking thing is the denial of AMALT.

                So many fuckers here acting high and mighty as if they don’t treat human beings as disposable tools on their climb to whatever they happen to desire. M

                We have different motivations but are equally self deluding.

                [–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                AMALT is retarded because most men are painfully obedient and subserviant to their pussy overlord, lacking a back bone to even consider other humans as "disposable tools."

                Programming from childhood into late adolescence ensures many boys grow up into slave men - they grow into the disposable tools to be used - alot of them used by women.

                [–]king_of_red_alphas 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                True.

                BUT

                If we follow the idea of AWALT it means this: presented with the opportunity, all men - provides sufficient motivation (ie the woman is hot enough) will deviate from that conditioning and fuck the new hot girl.

                The will be even bail on their “obligation” for the hotter girl if she has sufficient girl game to flip him.

                [–]CanuckinFL 7 points8 points  (4 children)

                Listen, I'm with you on interpreting the arguments with some subtlety, but do consider that some of what you're taking issue with is the mandate at hand.

                So in the way that the auto-retorts of "she's out banging someone because she's late coz women" is an insipid response, so too is demonizing what I think our purpose is, in here.

                And that is to perhaps constantly remind ourselves of what IS essentially making AWALT.

                Poor analogy I've offered elsewhere as follows:

                there are sharks. Lotsa different kinds. Some, not carnivorous, many docile, and not interested in humans as food anyway. But you prepare yourself for sharks biting when you swim in shark infested water. Because enough of them do bite generally, to make the rule valid. You prepare for what is logically and demonstrably true.

                and I think that's kinda what we have to stress about them, in the way of the testimonials in here, to get our act going. So yeah. AWALT.

                [–]MaxDMJ 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                Okay, so to clarify for my own understanding, AWALT is not a literally correct statement, but we should prepare as if AWALT, because it is better to be safe than sorry.

                [–]mummersfarce_is_done 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                You don't even know what AWALT stands for. AWALT doesn't mean all women do cheat. It means it is their natural disposition to do so, given the opportunity when the hot male comes along. It doesn't mean all women will branch swing, it means vica versa.

                And it means all women crave attention! Especially male attention.

                Of course some things like personality will play a role if women follow on to that like social environment, upbringing, low or high self esteem. Some women will prefer a more risk taking strategy with more branch swinging, some women will just latch onto a co-dependent so they will never be dumped (that is because they are co-dependent themselves). Of course they might preach about it to gain sympathy points, as it is also a part of AWALT; virtue signaling and getting those juicy likes on facebook.

                [–]ItsYough123 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                So pretty much like how it is in men's nature? Why not call it AHALT?(All humans are like that)

                [–]mummersfarce_is_done 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Holy shit! The term is about things that are specific to women. Shit testing, craving validation, requiring an inmovable rock in a relationship, necessity of being in someone else's frame for attraction etc. Want me to spell everything out for you? Go read the sidebar.

                [–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                AWALT is about potentials.

                If you believe your girl wouldnt fuck a young Arnold Schwarzenegger if he came knocking on her door, you're a delusional fool.

                [–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                It’s more like, my ex-fiancé banged the Dallas cowboys, yours is just jealous she didn’t get to.

                [–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Points 2 and 3 are valid points though.

                Point 1 fails because good advice should stand on its own without even needing to explain who you are or your background.

                Point 4 is an important reminder that looks matter. But there are plenty of attractive guys out there home alone and jerking it because they don’t take advantage of their asset. Mindset is equally as important as looks, you need both.

                [–][deleted] 403 points404 points  (28 children)

                I think people are really losing the ability to think for themselves they want spoon-fed information without actually questioning and experiencing things.

                Edit: Thanks for the gold.

                [–]biglaughingcock 49 points50 points  (10 children)

                that’s how societies are controlled. but it’s impossible to control every mind, there will always be thinkers.

                [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (6 children)

                All this is just my opinion but I think we need to question everything we are being told and that includes questioning things about TRP when you start following something blindly that's when your shit will get fucked up.

                [–]broek_325[S] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

                You are absolutely correct, and you will see the most senior and experienced men here say the same thing. The second you give up free thought and follow blindly, you are in huge trouble. It’s that same mindset that has led most men here. They followed the herd and got fucked over. The very essence of TRP should be to wake up and take ownsership of yourself and your actions.

                Use what you read here, go out and experience it. You have the theory, now go and put it into practice, and then draw your own conclusions. Mould it to your own life, your own circumstances.

                You will find most of your findings do indeed match exactly what the core principles of TRP say, but every single man will have different experiences and have a different life, and must learn to lead it himself and make his own decisions. He can make much better decisions thanks to all the shared knowledge he has ingested, but they must be his decisions none the less. Not just following what he’s been told.

                [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                “Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.” -Bruce Lee

                I don't follow a lot of the advice I see posted about TRP but I do look through a lot of the info and take the things that might be useful to me in my own life.

                [–]metallicdrama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                This. There’s a lot of good ideas on here but not all of them apply to what is right for you. It’s like investing. Not every product suits your goals and resources.

                [–]biglaughingcock 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                That is what thinkers do. Thinkers come to their own conclusions, using everybody's experiences. I learned nothing from this post, what I do realize about this sub though is that its predominantly about feels good posts and getting upvotes, not becoming the most alpha male you can be.

                [–]CanuckinFL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I think I'd agree with you, but with a dash less disdain. The testimonials I reread in here keep me grounded in reality. My best thinking got me in here, as is said in AA meetings. So yeah, maybe not the most instructive of things to read all the time. But I still get a lot of value in this sub, because doing your thing right, if you are, is somewhat of a lonely venture.

                Nothing kills humans like solitude. And yet most men crave a lot of it. :)

                [–]TheRedPillMonkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Exactly this. Trust but verify. When I found TRP, a lot of it made sense right away just from experience. The rest I put to the test and when it proved to work well, I was in. That said, not everything should be taken at face value or absolute gospel. Especially these days where post quality is low and by guys who have no business writing posts.

                [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 16 points17 points  (8 children)

                think for themselves

                It's getting even worse than that. They don't just want the answer, they want you to do the work for them too. We have things like speed dating because men can't be bothered to put themselves in front of a female themselves.

                [–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 6 points7 points  (7 children)

                Not only that, but the retards going to this shit never stop to think "what kind of woman would attend an arrangement like this? The top tier ones or the low tier ones?". Everybody wants to be sold on lies like "Come to speed dating, where unicorns are waiting for your limp dick with approach anxiety"

                [–]JustForTRP 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                AWALT.

                What makes a top tier or low tier woman? Looks? Plenty of hot girls in speed dating or tinder, so that's retarded.

                Madonna / whore syndrome is what you suffer from.

                All women are whores for the right guy.

                So your "classy, top tier, wait 5 months before sex prude" for you is a "low tier sleeze who fucks in 5 minutes" for another man

                [–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                I have fucked 12 girls off tinder, none of them have been LTR material. Girls I've met through hobbies and work have been much better women, primarily stable and without the damaged stories like "i was raped" "my father abused me", thats the kind of shit you meet on tinder. Just think, why would a legit 9 install Tinder? She allready has top quality men after her 24/7. The only 9's u see on Tinder are promoting their IG or just there for gratifcation.

                [–]MuhTriggersGuise 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                Same thing applies to online dating and apps. High SMV women don't use them, they already have high SMV men engaging them. On top of that, high SMV men rarely use apps/online much, because it's much easier to get high SMV women in person where low SMV guys filter themselves out, instead of trying to make it through the noise online and on apps.

                [–]mummersfarce_is_done 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Everyone gets what they deserve. Cowards with approach anxiety get plain janes who look like 9s in their profile photo and the truly brave meet and go out with the real hot stuff. Life is a test of mettle.

                [–]JustForTRP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Brave low smv guys will get rejected so whats the point

                [–]JustForTRP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Are you saying guys shouldnt approach women until they become high smv? So they shouldnt approach women for years until theyre like 25?

                [–]MuhTriggersGuise 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Yeah the number of shit threads of people posting their exact situation, wanting to be told what to do, instead of just reading the sidebar, is growing. There's also many more shit posters who don't seem to know the first thing about TRP replying with non-TRP advice.

                [–]1ozaku7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Yeah, they want the medicine without the side effects of actually doing work. Like women who rather starve to hear death instead of just doing intensive sports to lose fat.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                kinda sums up my experience with reddit. actually that's what i use reddit for.. dear god.

                [–][deleted] 135 points136 points  (16 children)

                1 -Votes mean absolutely nothing. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I can make a feel good post about one of the dead horse tenants that'll get upvoted to the moon because I've pandered to my audience. Who and what does that benefit? Consider your demographic.

                I'd rather make a contentious post that gets a few sheep actually thinking for themselves.

                2 - Automatically discount any post that has a "just swallowed the pill" prologue. This takes years to digest. The pill is extended release, you can't crush and snort it in one session.

                3 - Anyone under 24 has no business posting advice on this forum. You're still children. At that age you should be attempting to learn, not attempting to teach. Field reports, sure, but leave the theory and dissertations to those with actual experience, otherwise you're shitting up the board with your untested individual thought processes. You're adding noise, not signal. You don't know what you don't know.

                4 - Skimming post history is the only way to glean what kind of a person you're dealing with here on the anonywebz. Often saves me a lot of time because I'll discover the guy is a nutjob, or a troll, or just so caught up in his own weirdly twisted version of smurfy idealology that I'd simply be wasting my time. WTF are you special children doing on this sub in the first place if you don't like the flavor of the koolaid? You really have nothing better to do with your time but try burn random shit down?

                5 - All communities wither... Original thinkers group up, create something new and clever. This attracts more and more people. Some drink the koolaid, some just want to come mock and try tear it down. As interest grows, the ratio of originals to newbies flops. New blood in, the old blood either has obtained all it wants from the community, or gets fed up with the incessant screeching noise and leaves. Further information dilution. Value leaching. More noise from noobs, less signal from OG's, both from attrition and the fact that at some point, it's all been said before. Mods change to represent the new community norms, becoming more accepting of noobs shitting up the place. Without OG and vigilant mods, it becomes a blind leading the blind scenario. The whole place goes up in flames. There's your story arc. That's why the "respect the tag" post is over in the sidebar, and why I'm disappointed when some newb shits on an EC to show how EDGY he is. Good thing I'm not a mod because I'd take that fucker OUT. No womsplanation. Disagree, sure. Bring up a valid point, hell yes. Having a grownup discussion with a mod/EC is one of the best things you can do. But suffering fools is very low on the agenda for the day. We've been there. Take a second and think what this place would become without mods or EC's.

                6 - It's all been said before. If you go through the archives, if the community has grown, if you are informed and erudite, you can pull out a post from years ago that answers every question posed here. Different analogies, different teaching strategies, sure, but at some point the flow of new information ceases.

                7 - The demographic... You're here because you are not happy. There is a splinter in your mind. Something is not right. The problem is you're entitled children that expect and demand a neatly boxed answer.

                There is no neatly boxed answer.(Well, there is, but you have to spend a year here to understand that this place IS the shortcut to an amazing life.)

                You "deserve" NOTHING. I'm here because I feel sorry for you sad fucks and I have the time to post. I don't get paid for this shit. I get a little validation and happiness when someone PM's me about how he's changed his life, but that's it.

                Nice post, OP.

                Eat Shit and Die

                [–]FaderOne 17 points18 points  (6 children)

                Sweet Jesus this is accurate.

                Is there a way to filter so one can only view Mod/Endorsed Contributor content? I’ll take quality control into my own hands.

                The noise from noobs does not help anyone especially more noobs because they get a twisted idea of TRP.

                I guess that what the sidebar is for though. The shit there rarely if ever ages.

                [–]SoulRedemption 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                I think it sometimes its good to go through what you call 'noise from noobs'. Only so far till you realize that it's 'noise', then let go. This keeps things in perspective.

                [–]FaderOne 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                Not bad for perspective… I actually like that idea. I’m sure you should only do so when you have a strong foundation and you’re able to easily classify wether what you’re reading falls into place or out of place

                [–]SoulRedemption 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Yes, that's true. If the foundation is not there any if unable to think critically or perspectively, the person will just sway everywhere with what he reads.

                [–]FaderOne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Like a plastic bag being throwing around in the wind

                [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                Skimming post history is the only way to glean what kind of a person you're dealing with here on the anonywebz.

                Agreed......people sometimes get bent out of shape when you do it. It's hilarious.

                [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

                OMG you stalker...

                Daily I've been posting in (vidgajame sub), but I don't slay as much pussy as I want.

                WtF is going on?

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                  [–]antariusz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I got tired of slaying pussy, my sex drive is also in the shitter from a cycle. Playing video games is honestly more appealing to me than sex right now even though I’ve woken up every day for the past week with a raging hardon (yea prohormones).

                  If you went back in time and told 24 year old depressed virgin me this information I’d think you were high on drugs.

                  As long as this forum exists for the people who want the information, to be able to access the information, then everything is good. The people who need it will be able to filter out the fake from the real. The problem, 11 years ago, is this kind of information was pretty hard to come by, even if you were interested in learning it.

                  Reading pdfs and other “web books” written by PUAs about their ideal method with no collaboration or debate was not the best way to learn, but I made due.

                  And guys that don’t want to learn, well they will just keep on playing the latest EA sports franchise and probably aren’t even on this subreddit at all.

                  I’m more inclined to believe the people posting shitty advice are doing it intentionally so, because this subreddit offends their worldview.

                  [–]Eclectiqque 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  tha ks for the input

                  about the archive part, I know it may sound like I want to be spoon fed but any extra tips on how I could navigate the archive or where to start?

                  TRP seems very valuable it’s just that I didn’t manage to see how to look through archives - maybe it’s my lack of computer saviness

                  [–]S5M 47 points48 points  (6 children)

                  This applies to whatever GLO writes too, don't just listen to him just because he is GLO.

                  Need to be careful because he says some retard shit sometimes too, maybe it's the steroids.

                  [–]broek_325[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                  Don’t worry, I don’t listen to anything as gospel, whether it’s here or real life. GLO posts plenty of shit I don’t agree with at all, but he also posts plenty of shit I do. We have to filter it for ourselves.

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                    [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    He is explicitly not only endorsed by the creators and maintainers of this sub but is flagged as a senior member and even has an own flair, so you could say that he's got a special standing in this community and therefore you should absolutely listen to everything he writes.

                    Also TRP is not an ideology and all the bullshit you wrote is exactly perpetuated by the blue pill faggots.

                    So I'd say if it's GLO vs you, it's pretty clear, who people should be listening to.

                    [–]1CoupDeGrace22 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                    Guy above you is definitely a blue-pill faggot for stating what's actually true eh? (even though he's wrong for completely writing off GLO for virtue of that alone.)

                    Ironically in our example GLO recently called another prominent figure of this community out for preaching shit he didn't do( and mostly for looking small af ), had he not, everyone would continue the endorsed circle jerk of "Absolutely listen to this guy!".

                    I get that some guys want to do their best to help the people involved here , but saying that your tag makes your opinions de facto valid or gives priority to your word is bullshit, we've seen fuckloads of retarded shit from tagged members, hell ~1 year ago a tagged member was shitposting the fuck out of this sub with meaningless posts along with a pure broscience article on dick health and came out after a while saying those shitposts were his "personal experiment" along with some other edgy conclusions and a few sprinkles of actual useful info here and there.

                    If someone found this sub but is so devoid of critical thinking that he needs to be told who to listen to even AFTER going through sidebar material, then fuck it, it's on him, end of story.

                    [–]metallicdrama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I’ve spent years wondering one person can be so stupidly genius and geniusly stupid at the same time.

                    [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Same could be speculated about you and estrogen. Who knows?

                    [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 87 points88 points  (10 children)

                    The core problem is this. The Red Pill functions by deprogramming you of the unproductive blue pill behaviors that prevent you from getting laid.

                    Now our audience is young and ready for change however most of the kids here are over eager don't understand the guiding philosophy. They just wanna be alpha! Tell me the sex password I'm ready 2 fuk!

                    Untill the kids here understand the core message they will never know what is Red Pill and what isn't. They will continuously get reinfected with bloop thought and go nowhere. It's a real shitshow.

                    However our shitshow is waaaay better then the Old Dog No New Tricks Married Red Pill Shitshow and way way better than the I can be Feminist and Red Pill RPW shit+menstrual blood shitshow.

                    Moral of the story you can learn a lot by critically reading and understanding what others do wrong so you don't make the same mistakes

                    [–]ScottyKaratee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    Tell me the Sex password and I’m ready to fuck haha. You are spot on with what you are saying I just had this conversation last night/this morning. This time isn’t a Gmail account where you get a welcoming email stating “congrats ScottyKaratee on your new free Alpha Male Status! Have you downloaded the official Alpha Male app to make being alpha male more smooth on your IOS/Android system yet?

                    [–]broek_325[S] 4 points5 points  (8 children)

                    Moral of the story you can learn a lot by critically reading and understanding what others do wrong so you don't make the same mistakes

                    That’s the main reason I read FR’s. The good ones always have valuable lessons.

                    [–]PurpleVeteran 21 points22 points  (6 children)

                    Fuck that... 80% of the FRs posted here are either "I was banging this chick and she admitted a RP truth" or "my friend was so beta, and his shitty GF did something shitty -- AWALT."

                    You want to live by anecdotes of what other people say or do? Fine, but that's not improving yourself, just reinforcing your existing mindset -- whether RP or otherwise.

                    Here's a lesson...

                    Kill your addictions: put down the cigarette, bong or game controller, and stop seeking validation from those around you. Take care of the shit in life you can control: clean up after yourself, lift heavy things, and set some goals. Fuck worrying about "other people's mistakes" and focus on being authentic.

                    [–]broek_325[S] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                    Learning through other people’s mistakes is a fucking good way to learn, why on earth would you want to make a mistake which you could avoid just by obtaining a little knowledge? Our existence is based on the fact we remember mistakes our ancestors made, and we don’t make them anymore.

                    (Basic example, would you test which wild fruits are poisonous by eating each one until you die, or would you read a book written by a man who has been there, has friends who died by eating the bad shit, and can tell you what poisonous shit to avoid?)

                    There are some good FR’s, which are genuine and usually involve a guy fucking everything up. You read it, learn some lessons, and one day find yourself in the same situation and manage to not fuck it up because a similar scenario has already been played out in your head before.

                    Figuring out which FR’s are real and which are BS is entirely down to the reader.

                    Edit: completely agree about kicking addictions and lifting heavy weights, that’s a pre req and everyone here should be doing it.

                    [–]BewareTheOldMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Learning through other people’s mistakes is a fucking good way to learn...

                    It's one of the reasons I post on TRP, other SubReddits, and offer general advice to anyone who wants to listen. I'm an older guy, have suffered through my own experiences, and come out clean on the other side. Not only that, I’ve seen others face major consequences or destroy their lives with stupid life-decisions or behavior.

                    One situation was serious enough to almost get jail time - a false accusation of harassment, stalking, threatening, and domestic violence - NONE of which was true, but I had no idea I shouldn't have been dealing with a crazy, train wreck of a woman to begin with due to naivety, youth, little life experience, but mostly lack of positive male guidance and mentorship.

                    My life would have been so much better if I had a father/father figure say the following statements:

                    Son - don't marry that woman. You will regret it, and this is why...

                    Son - don't get involved with Single Mothers. You will regret it, and this is why...

                    Son - don't get involved with emotionally damaged women. You will regret it, and this is why...

                    Son - avoid the following list of toxic women [proceeds to elaborate on list of toxic women]. You will regret it, and this is why...

                    Could have saved much heartache, frustration, money, and been much better off overall – I hope young guys are learning from my mistakes.

                    [–]Fyrjefe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    You both have good points, but this is not an instance of either/or but both/and. Caveat! It's easy to get stuck spinning your wheels in reading here. Best to go out and work on yourself. Read literature, lift things, and learn some new recipes. Also, reading how people screw up isn't actually a preventative measure. You have to practice doing things correctly so that you don't put yourself in the position of screwing up in the first place. And if shit hits the fan outside of your control, your reflexes should be practised enough to get you out of the mess. FRs are only a single aspect of training your awareness. Anyway, great post. Put everything to the test. The main takeaway of this thread is action.

                    [–]PurpleVeteran 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I'm not saying you can't learn from people's mistakes. The most valuable field reports are actual reports on what the author did, how it worked, and what he learned from that. What we get these days are second-hand stories and gossip. Who fucking cares that you met a chick who was mental, or that your bro keeps repeating his BP mistakes? I think we can all agree that the world is full of dumb and shitty people.

                    Talk about yourself, share your own experience. There's a weekly MRP megathread on "owning your shit", where people set goals, admit their mistakes, seek advice, and basically come to be held to account. Metal sharpening metal.

                    [–]cBIGONE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    In addition, cut down on the fucking porno addiction people!

                    [–]pacothebattlefly 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                    Welcome to the state of politics

                    [–]sleepyweaselisawake 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                    Take a page from Bruce Lee, take what you can use and leave the rest. This sub has given me three things; relentless self improvement, abundance mentality, and outcome independence. FRs, theory, the occasional WTF post are entertaining, but putting the fundamentals in practice are all anyone really needs.

                    [–]fingers144 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                    I've been a lurker for several years now and I feel the content posted from the past year have mostly been from people that have recently swallowed the pill and think they are experts all of a sudden. Where did all the posters with the real wisdom go?

                    [–]cBIGONE 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    They get a kick out of giving advice every once and awhile or the more likely answer: they are living their life in abundance, and don't even think about this place

                    [–]11-Eleven-11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Ive been lurking for just over a year and i felt that the content level dropped considerably about a month or two after I joined. Would say it was around december when you noticed?

                    [–]Whitified 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Where did all the posters with the real wisdom go?

                    Personally I think the last great posters in the manosphere retired in 2007-2008

                    There's only so much to say about the world's oldest topic. The rest you have to experience for yourself; aka get off the internet

                    [–]drbldmny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    it has always been like that

                    the most successful people whose advice would actually be useful rarely if ever post on reddit

                    [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 7 points8 points  (5 children)

                    I'm going to respond to you from a commend (of yours) below.

                    I’ll take my advice from those who have proven it has value.

                    It's an anonymous internet message board, sparky. Almost no one has proven anything about themselves here. GLO, Rian and Rollo, who isn't really a regular poster, are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head and that's because they aren't particularly anonymous.

                    This is why the message is important. Yes, we have had a sea of retarded dumbshits posting vaginal moments, just like the post you cited. This is not a reason to throw basic rules of discourse and debate into the shitter. If Captain Estrogenaut actually had something useful and TESTABLE to say, then it is worth something.

                    [–]broek_325[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                    You are correct. But the whole point of an EC is that they have a post history which can be viewed, and which shows that at the very least they have been around and contributed valuable content for some time.

                    This means generally, I will be more willing to accept an EC post and test its material, than I will some rando. Being an EC is generally the closest we get to “verified non bullshitter”. It doesn’t mean anyone who’s not an EC has nothing to contribute, it just means we can all be aware that they haven’t got the “verified non bullshitter” tag, so be extra careful.

                    But of course, if you haven’t revealed your real face, there is any chance you’re just a troll or a hambeast. And that’s where using our own brains comes in, and we question even the posts from the most senior members, and test it ourselves and draw our own conclusions. There are many senior contributors I do not always agree with, but there are often nuggets of knowledge that I can use in my own way.

                    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    Fuck you, stop looking to replace your father or your Netflix Special.

                    This means generally, I will be more willing to accept an EC post and test its material, than I will some rando.

                    You don't need to accept anything. Fucking entitled millenial bullshit. And you tell people here, with a straight face, that the reason YOU don't value things is because WE don't spoon feed you our medical records, video evidence, and other SPOONFEDING. Even though you followed the sidebar, did the basic, bare minimum people do before even posting, as if it's an accomplishment.

                    Here's what you need to know, you're an entitled cunt. You're mad because these monkeys aren't dancing the way you want them to. I read your one year FR, you've clearly done the bare minimum (that everyone should have done in here before even posting) And you shouldn't need heros, you got everything you need, so stop with the whining.

                    As for your comment on paper alpha, they aren't going to leave. TRP ban list is thousands long, and it gets longer every day. You need to stop worrying about who is a shity tier guy in here, and start contributing. At this point, you should be a net producer over a net consumer, complaining over season 4 of TRP

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    If you don’t produce value, you’re opinion is shit.

                    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    We have this discussion every 6 months. Some ECs and senior members think that unless you are getting laid on the regular then you should not post anything except FRs and questions in askTRP. Others point out that this is the internet and people want to have a turn and feel included. I personally think anything posted by a senior/ mod/ EC/ Vanguard should be stickied and left at the top for a week before it drops into the shit stew of your daily member posts. Sometimes you get some gold from junior members but it is like fishing for diamonds in a river of shit.

                    [–]Method007 15 points16 points  (5 children)

                    Yea that post the other day about not dating women over 35 was fucking autistic.

                    [–]DrinkMyPenis 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                    Guys that have never seen hot women over the age of 35 have clearly never been to a gym in their lives.

                    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                    I would rather date a woman over 35 who keeps in shape than someone in their 20's

                    [–]Shaney96 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    Many look at all posts here as an extension to their Bible.

                    Everything really should be looked at from a perspective of neutrality and suspicion, so as not to take everything you read right on board, but to look at it, process it, then make an informed judgement on it's quality/applicability.

                    [–]uebermacht 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                    [–]whats_the_deal22 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    That shit was upvoted? Come on people.

                    [–]Marventh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I saw a comment of that guy saying "3 even hurt themself somehow" like he was praising that was a good thing. What the fuck.

                    [–]Werewolf35b 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                    Yet when you question any aspect of trp doctrine, you get attacked and downvoted. There's no discussion on the validity of any of this. And I dont think the people that came up with this stuff are that much of an authority on well, anything.

                    People act like this shit is pure fact and written in stone. I don't see what authourity people speak on here. Some shit I agree with some I don't.

                    A few days ago guys were having a heart attack because i posted a comment that you shouldn't bend over backwards to avoid buying a chick a drink, as you might miss out on pussy to pat yourself on the back that you weren't "taken advantage of" for $4.

                    But oh noes!! It's trp doctrine to not buy a drink, presumably because a guy wrote a crappy trp ebook once and asserted it, pulled straight from his ass, and now it's written in stone. It's gospel.

                    [–]aewiggin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    These days the Red Pill community seems to be fueled by outrage and rhetoric.

                    For the most part, I think it's because damaged, angry men have come here in need of a safe place to vent. TRP has been getting new, angry boys much faster than it has been outputting balanced, reasonable men, so anger has become the accepted "default state" for the sub. A lot of people have forgotten that the anger is meant to be temporary.

                    I've been wondering if there should be a separate community for men who have gotten over the anger and are ready to calmy and rationally discuss sexual strategy and masculine identity.

                    [–]cBIGONE 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    Buying a drink is perfectly fine. I think a lot of people dont understand the rule of reciprocity.

                    If the woman doesn't feel like she needs to buy you one or take you out at some point soon, you should probably pass on her.

                    Actually, I sometimes prefer this. You can test a girl really quick for 4 bucks. I know people that spend a lot more for less

                    [–]coco5440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Reciprocity is a concept far too many women don't understand. Weeding them out for 4 bucks is a great deal.

                    [–]1mental_models 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Even with the great base of wisdom that this sub has, there are still a shocking amount of sheep in here who don't understand TRP and are also not generally capable of critical thinking.

                    Look at the new Progress Thread... 3 of the reports feature their masturbating habits!

                    Many of these bloopers not only lack the TRP understanding, but also seem to lack even trial and error experiences in any form. When you say "Hey, I am employed and I don't mind buying a date coffee or drinks without playing mini-power games. I'm not going overboard, and I'm not going to be their ATM or provider, but I am comfortable spending a small amount of seed money here", they can't comprehend that.

                    [–]ItsYough123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Finally a post I can agree with. I'm not red pill nor am I blue pill. I'm just a normal guy who tries to use his best judgement. I read the side bar and it has some good information but I always feel like a lot of users take it out of context. The most upvoted crap on here baffles me a lot of the time. It seems to come from bitter, angry guys who seem to hate women and somehow believed they were unicorns that could do no wrong when they were younger. It's this kind of thinking that makes me question a lot of the stuff these guys are saying because if they were that socially lacking when they were younger then I've no doubt reading a few articles isn't suddenly going to make them into the big slayer they claim to be now. I take nearly everything that is said on here with a grain of salt. When you question people on here and they reply coming off bitter as fuck it's clear to me that they're not in as control as their big posts would make out.

                    As you said, and it would be my advice as well, take some of the information from the side bar and use it to the best of your ability. Don't make 9000 word posts claiming you now know everything about women and how you're this big alpha male etc, it's just cringy as fuck to me.

                    [–]Rollo_Mayhem3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    While your point is valid (people need to think through any information they read) your advice to weight certain contributors more heavily is flawed because those posts and comments also deserve examination.

                    Also, I think you are correct about highly accurate posts by non-endorsed members getting buried (I can't figure out if it is deliberate or not). For example, I gave a FR that contains several pieces of fairly straightforward advice about dating and getting laid, and it got no upvotes despite over 2.5k views..and the comment all attacked me on rando angles...rather them address the substance. I found that weird. and believe me I am not spending time writing things looking for fame...

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    People have largely lost the ability to use their own intuition and think critically.

                    Wisdom is accumulated through the gathering of knowledge, then applying that knowledge through courageous action.

                    Without the action step and determining how the knowledge actually works for you in your life, you'll never gain wisdom.

                    It's only through gaining of wisdom when one can critically analyse new information they receive and intuit whether or not it's applicable or true to them.

                    [–]DrinkMyPenis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I always check the post history before I even bother reading the post at hand. It doesn't take that long to vet a poster for yourself.

                    Also anything from a month-old account to a guy who's under 27 years of age I typically discard, though I'll tend towards reading the article if the guy is between the ages of 24-26. Sometimes, it's actually not a waste of time. Sometimes.

                    [–]whuttupfoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Some of the most highest voted comments are from people who frequently posted in the incels subreddit and share the same views. There’s been a huge influx of blue pill shit being praised as if it’s red pill. TRP is actually going down the shitter. If you want real insight, read the old posts throughout the years, red books like the Rational male, follow the red pill gurus on twitter, and just surround yourself with the right people in real life.

                    [–]Spacemage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I stopped coming to most of the threads here, and commenting far less, because the people who post in here tend to be hurt boys who are sexist as fuck, or have empathy issues. I'm not saying everyone is like that, but trying to have a two sided conversation in this sub is nearly impossible. Just to touch on the "many people post and leave" type comment.

                    Keep in mind a good number of people in here are bitter or just shitty humans. Yes, women can be a problem, but too many people think women Are THE problem, when infact that's not true as a whole. Another one of the problems is trying to discuss that with people.

                    But back to the main point. Use your brain. Consider things, think about them, apply then to a situation in your mind, reconsider it, think about it again, then decide.

                    [–]Conor_Niggregor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Well, judging from post history

                    And that's where I stop reading

                    [–]Tsunnnami 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    This is even a bigger problem when it comes to famous and successful PUA artists - I can understand that people look at success as being an indicator of that person's competence in the field, but there as so many other important factors that have to be taken into consideration:

                    1.More than one path leads to the same destination and yes, the different journey matters, because it decides who you become. You can get 100 women in your bed by being a semi-jerk and deceiving them, or you can get 100 women in your bed by offering value and having a noble character. This is just an example of course, there are unlimited combinations for unlimited situations.

                    2.Argument from authority fallacy: just because the information comes from a person who has an authority in a specific field ( and is usually right about 80-90% of things ), it doesn't mean that the information that he gives has to be right ALL THE TIME. There is a margin of error for ANY person, no matter how big they are, that margin of error contains all those erroneous ideas that he voluntarily or involuntarily presents as being correct.

                    3.Different methods for different masters - No matter if it's about life philosophies, principles, strategies, techniques, ways-of-doing-things, etc., EVERYTHING that you do is an extension of yourself. When you start doing things that aren't actually a reflection of your spirit, perhaps you won't observe it at first, but over time you will see how alienated you become from yourself and no matter what you achieve, it just won't feel like it's yours; because it isn't !

                    It's one thing to learn from someone and integrate those lessons into your life, but it has to fit YOU. This might seem common sense for some people, but it's so far from common sense. Every day we are influenced by people who we put on a pedestal and subconsciously we tend to do things like they do them, only to realize that it doesn't feel right. At this point, a cognitive dissonance happens, because what we do doesn't feel right, but at the same time it feels right to get those results that we expect to get from our actions that are influenced by the methods that we see others are using. So what's there to do then ? To calibrate the methods we learn from others and make them fit our own character. To "cut the fat" of the method = if you deconstruct a certain method a person uses, you will see that it has more components.

                    Example 1: a PUA artist can have a 6-step method to get a woman at a bar, but you don't agree with step 4 - fine, you can take it out and see what happens if you do the other steps without that one, or maybe you can include a new step and replace the other. My point is that you don't have to throw out the whole method, only because an element of it doesn't work for you or you don't want to do it, because it's just contrary to some principle that you might have. Take what's useful from it & eliminate the rest ( and when I say useful, I don't mean comfortable, re-designing a method is not for the ones who want to take an easier route or a shortcut or are too lazy to execute something, re-designing a method is for the ones who have some important and strong principles that they don't want to give up and who can transform the method so that it fits them, without taking out the difficulty of it).

                    Example 2: it happens that you like very much what a person has to say about certain subjects, so you assume that everything about his personality and his behavior is doing him justice, but that isn't necessarily true. Some great gurus are neurotics, other are misogynists, others are having annoying obsessions, etc. - now this doesn't mean that they don't have valid points and great ideas, it simply means that you've got to be selective.

                    I remember that I was obsessed with a very intelligent and sharp social critic and the guy is truly great, he has mind-blowing ideas and razor-sharp thinking, but for a long time I was blind to see how he is also very aggressive ( not physically ) and neurotic, so for a period of time I was also becoming increasingly more aggressive and more neurotic. At that time, it seemed like "it all comes with the package", like this aggression is really what drives him to be a sharp thinker. And it's true, the aggression is really what drives him to be a sharp thinker, but this doesn't mean that it has to be what drives me to be a sharp thinker.

                    Just like I was stating at the beginning - there are more ways that lead to the same achievements and it matters a lot which way you take, because it's going to transform who you are and you want to be smart when it comes to who you are.

                    [–]legitimateusername4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Personally I like the posts that are the sidebar, but far worse and with less detail YOU GOTTA FUCKIN LIFT JUST DO IT BRAH BE A MAN (500 upvotes).

                    [–]StudntRdyTeachrApear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Anonymity is valuable in online discourse. For TRP, credentials would be useful. Too bad exposing yourself is too risky.

                    [–]SocietalEngineering 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Love this post. Thinking for yourself is itself a core RP principle. I see way too much bullshit advice on here that gets upvoted for no reason other than at the end of the post they mention lifting.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Plastique makes your Testosterone go down!
                    Counter-Post: No it does not

                    Looks matter, check my Nazi-Tinder-Profiles
                    Counterpost: Screw Black Pill

                    Be alpha and beta to screw over females
                    Counterpost: Thats dumb.

                    In the end this might be a good lecture for everyone. Most people don't know shit and EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO DO KNOW SHIT aren't always right. "Think for yourself" is thankfully a statement noone can disagree on. Simply because that is pretty much the first step to getting in control over your own life.

                    [–]NarcKammerjaeger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Too many covert narcissistic sperglords over compensating from one extreme to the other. They hate theire old 'BP' self-image and are now discussing woman's eggs on here to escape that massive cognitive dissonance that conditioning and low t levels are causing. Fixing the later 2 they call hamsterig. Also women over 30 are subhuman and are not worth spending time on. Ofc lil'CEO I understand you have 50000 subordinates waiting to get orders so you are really tight on time 25/7. But digging up behavioral studies done on rats or hamsters is worth your time dear spergy, right?

                    [–]Zenitco 1 point2 points  (6 children)

                    i think people below a certain age (23-24?) shouldn't be allowed to post

                    i think its fine if they post on asktrp though

                    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                    Then read the random FR’s and theories, and judge for yourself if they seem real

                    My suggestion is to think for yourself, but also to TEST for yourself.

                    Look around you at everyone you know. Might this be true of them? Is there any way you can test this? Will they be honest with you? These are questions you have to answer for yourself.

                    And look at your own experiences. Does the post ring true? Do you have counterpoints, evidence to the contrary?

                    The problem many face is not believing things outside our own direct experience. We have no idea what it's like to be female. We have no access to women's genuine n-count. We have never been a girl swiping on Tinder, and female reports of their experiences of the SMP are of course biased by her motivations, desires and intended outcome of that communication. Short of setting up a fake Tinder profile we have no idea if women respond to "hey bb, sex now" from Chad-like men.

                    Most men simply believe what society and women tell them. But as always the problem with listening to other people is that everyone has a bias and everyone has an agenda. Female communication is very different to male communication. Only the gullible believe men and women are fundamentally the same (obviously this is something you should test for yourself - don't take my word for it).

                    The BP world would love you to believe that being a wageslave to support an ungrateful woman is somehow correct and right and decent and honourable. The bias is obvious here.

                    PUA sites would love you to believe that you can go up to women and confidently tell them to spread their legs and you'll be drowning in pussy before you know it. The bias is less obvious here but usually amounts to ego and money. "I'm awesome, you can have what I have, sign up here".

                    As an EC I'd love to tell you I have a perfect life and women fall on my dick. There's no money at play, but everyone has an ego. I could make this more relevant to you by saying "and you can have what I have, just do what I do, follow me for more tips and upvote this post". To make it more compelling I can spice it up with something non-intuitive: "You wouldn't believe this, but it turns out with women all you have to do is unzip your pants."

                    I try to keep things balanced in my posts and stick to what I've found to be true rather than what I imagine to be true. It's a constant struggle. There's always the temptation to just paste a quick soundbite, enjoy the validation of the upvotes and get on with my day.

                    In short: TEST what you read. Don't look at who wrote it, don't make assumptions about the experience or gender of who wrote it.

                    [–]Heinzdoofens 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    In the end, we are the decision makers. ECs Mods, Seniors, Parents whomever may give advice, if we do not make a decision to follow it, we never will. Their advice may work, may not work, but it is an experience they share, so that we do not make the same mistakes. They give advice because they know they could have reached higher peaks if they had the same advice given to them, or had they avoided that mistake.

                    Our ex oneitis might've been an actual unicorn, or a full fledged slut, but their advice is, more than to next her or plate her, their advice is for us to just not be in a position of emotional attachment, because it hinders our development. Let her be the best woman ever, but for you, at this moment of life, at this point of time, she is not good. Let her be an emotional wreck who is having a tough life, you can't save her, just like EC's or experienced peoples advice can't save you. She should make a decision to save herself. Just like you must put yourself first and do what is good for you. Let her be a virgin unicorn who wants to pursue a career, why would she commit to you? is her hypergamy wrong in losing it to a famous actor? Let her be a slut banging it up with whomever she likes, she may have all the money in the world, all the things she wants, but if she lacks satisfaction or happiness, is she wrong in chasing strange?

                    Only you can save you. You can make you, or you can break you.
                    You can do drugs, drink, get wasted, you can use TRP, to bang as many sluts you can in your life as possible, sure you may end up becoming poor due to not building your life, but why do you care, you can bang whenever you want.

                    Or you can getup being buried in your own bullshit today, stop getting high on drugs, stop smoking those cigarettes, stop binge dringking, stop watching those useless porn, stop telling NOFAP does not work, stop giving excuses to complete your work, or giving reasons to not study, stop dreaming of that startup you want to build which will make billions, when you don't even know how to code, or do not even have an idea.

                    Stop all these, and maybe try, try these things which people say here. Start lifting, not because it will help you get girls, but it will definitely help you to get out of that depression. Start dieting and eating healthy, not because you want to cut or you want to bulk, but if you still stay fat, you will die early. Stop smoking or drinking or drugs, not because it is not cool or anything, but to protect your health. Stop porn and masturbation, not because it has some random effects on your brain, but to stop wasting time.

                    Stop Wasting Time and Build some Discipline.

                    Talk to that girl, you may not bang her, but you might meet an amazing girl. Chase that pilot license you always wanted, yes it requires utmost discipline and dedication of body and mind, maybe you will become a pilot someday, maybe you fail, but you will have the satisfaction that you tried. That you did your best. That is the point of a mission. It is not the goal which gives the most happiness, it is the journey you take when you are on that mission. Sure you might not become a pilot, but when you were squatting in the gym, completely tired and sore, you will tell yourself that you have to squat one more set, you will tell yourself I will be a pilot if I complete the set, I may not become one if I do not do this set, then you imagine yourself in the cockpit and start the set. That is the Power of a Mission. You might not reach that goal, but all throughout your journey, you were living that goal, in your mind.

                    We can say I am alpha, you are beta and all that to satisfy our own ego, but if we do not put in the hard work, no matter alpha/beta, we will never reach our goal. We can shit on famous people, famous celebrities, saying I'm better, hes a beta etc again to satisfy our ego, but we are the ones who are living mediocre lives, while they are the ones changing the world.

                    You need to put all your money in that business that you always wanted to start, you may lose it completely, Just like you can put all your efforts on a girl and lose it all. Spinning plates does not build abundance, being attractive and girls roaming around you does not build abundance, because you are nothing once they leave.

                    Losing everything you hold dear to you, be it all the money you saved for business or the death of your closest friend, getting wrecked completely, getting wrecked by that oneitis, be it financially, emotionally, or physically, with no hope in living, living on the edge contemplating suicide, almost about to die, when you somehow stop yourself, when you tell yourself not to give up, and rebuild everything you lost, that is what builds abundance and outcome independence. When you know you can walk away from the one whom you hold dear, When you know losing means nothing to you, because you can rebuild it anytime, that is what builds abundance and outcome independence. When you know you can face failure and stare death in the eye, and walk calm, not because somebody told you you will recover, but because you have actually lived it and recovered, that is what builds abundance and outcome independence. When you have lived your life however you want, however hard it was and have achieved your dreams, do you think you will still look for validation from that girl? do you think you will tolerate bullshit from her? That is what builds true frame.

                    Nothing can beat experience. You should be atleast alpha enough to risk failure, take that beta ego to atleast chase something that means something to you, and fail, that is when you lose that ego and start becoming humble. That is when you can be humble to the advice that any older guy or parents or elders or ECs or mods give to you. That is when you stop dangling words like respect which you used to use to describe your girl, and start to actually respect people who have achieved something, stop blaming them and calling them beta or wrong when you are actually jealous or butthurt of them and start respecting each and every word they say because you can imagine all the hardwork and turmoil and frustration and failures it took them to get there. Otherwise, you will never learn.

                    Start doing something worthwhile in this life, because it means something to you. You only live once.

                    [–]broek_325[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    That post makes a lot of sense, thanks.

                    I try to keep things balanced in my posts and stick to what I've found to be true rather than what I imagine to be true. It's a constant struggle. There's always the temptation to just paste a quick soundbite, enjoy the validation of the upvotes and get on with my day.

                    I can only hope most EC’s think this way. Anonymous or not, the points do stroke the ego, and it’s very tough to remain truthful and not chase validation, regardless of who you are.

                    [–]wataDs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    The other week some dickhead posted a theory obviously full of shit. And trying to be edgy and new, countering established trp theory, shit had over 200 upvotes. This page is becoming filled with too many bluepills taking up the front page with with brand new shit trying to be original.

                    [–]FaderOne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Thank fuck. That title irked the shit out of me...like why on earth would you want to do that? If it was framed in the position of “FR: what not to do/consequences of straddling the line of blue/red” then I guess it provides some insight.

                    God bless you for calling that shit out.

                    [–]1mental_models 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Signal-to-noise ratio fucking sucks, much like all of the world.

                    TRP's strength is that it's 'signals' actually do contain wisdom.

                    [–]blackedoutfast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    also be very critical about posts by random non-ECs that end with a link to their monetized, ad-filled blog.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    yeah,that's exactly what i have been doing i agree and i always read the comments from endorsed members and everything and i always make my own conclusions about everything from Articles to comments everyone else should do the same think about what's written and how true it really is... and if its something you can actually apply in RL.

                    [–]chaosrunssociety 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Think for yourself, question authority, but also remain skeptical of your comrades.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I thought the aforementioned post was decent. Not because there were any Red Pill Truths in the text itself but because of the underlying message and the dialog that came out of it.

                    The informed beta for lack of a better term is a trojan horse and of course, that breaks women. That breaks everyone.

                    Imagine taking an HB10 to bed only to find a dick in her panties. This is exactly how the girl feels. She thought OP was Chad Thundercock only to discover the pussy hiding beneath the surface.

                    To add insult to injury OP was proud of this. The informed beta is an enemy of the people. Women do not like him, society does not like him and most of all we do not like him.

                    Stop living a lie. Stop being a drone.

                    [–]AwkwardEmpath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    "fat hambeast whose bipolar" haha, love that reference.. I think too many hambeasts study TRP related content religiously and post as actual RP guys doing stuff when in reality it's just theories from their "profound" knowledge of TRP looking for attention. Just my opinion, that's why I agree with OP. Judge for yourselves.

                    [–]WISE_TURD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Do not post if you're 20 and younger. I really think someone should consider making trpcollege or trphighschool

                    Saw a 16 yo kid asking questions on asktrp and then posting garbage on trp the next day. If you've asked a question on asktrp in the last year, YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED.

                    On the flipside, post at least once if you're 40+

                    [–]chambertlo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    As soon as I read “alpha” I was immediately turned off. It’s something about referring to men as alpha/beta that comes off as immature and lacking any real life experience. Also, if someone admits to being any gender other than male or female, I tend to not care about its opinions.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Given that AF:BB is the e=mc2 of the red pill universe I suggest you reassess your dislike for the term alpha. It is a spectrum and we all aim for alpha. That is the goal.

                    [–]trp_nofap_rewire2018 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Good insight OP

                    I don’t buy into other people’s shit easily, not before checking up their background and stuff. Btw this is directly related to the unplugging process. Think for yourself, don’t fall for any propaganda. Trust no one. Being a poor BP folk means you blindly believe in the concepts molded by the feminine imperative, if you’re believing in everything you read here/anywhere else then you’re not really red pilled.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    wow this post has like 1k positive karma, take my upvote

                    [–]Smigg_e 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    This should be stickied. This is the essence of trp that many people miss.

                    [–]Art3mis2093 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    The problem is, people follow the herd. The post gains upvotes, so it must be fact. Rather than reading it and thinking for themselves, they’ll just take it as gospel, add another upvote, and be on their way.

                    you are spot on and this something that I have always been aware of when reading stuff on here

                    [–]El_Tewksbury 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Long time lurker, very rarely do I post.

                    "Listen to your elders' advice. Not because they are always right, but because the have more experience with being wrong."

                    [–]DashingRake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    It is ironic that people who come to a community based off questioning basic tennenants of society still need to be spoonfed both the questions and the answers.

                    [–]greatslyfer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    don't be gullible.

                    I remember when there was a post about a guy who said he who had a fatal disease and needed money in order to pay for treatment and having a shot of life or something close to that effect.

                    People were just believing him man, and regardless of whether what he said was true or not, in his post there was no verification of his claims only until I motherfucking asked for some, and then he gave it.

                    Yall just swallowed that shit and believed him, what the fuck.

                    As the theme of this post is suggests, use some critical thinking, it helps in some situations.

                    [–]tolerantman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I don't care about who said it, only what is being said.

                    I care about truth, not reputation.

                    [–]iamanalterror_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    So these people are creating bad content on here, so that they can then go on to blame us for... Bad content that they created? Hilarious.

                    It's amazing there are people who spend even some of their time and energy trying to bring down TRP.

                    Just makes us stronger!

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Yeah, every now and then I'll see a post on this subreddit that'll make me scoff. Usually it's the cocky posts that add little of substance, yet get upvoted endlessly by idiots who think it applies to them.

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