MetaVagina Envy (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 2chazthundergut

We have a lot of posts rightfully scoffing at chicks and their penis envy.

Women are so turned around that they think the path to happiness is by acting like a man.

The Modern Woman: I will become highly educated. I will build a successful career and make lots of money. I will have sex with as many partners as I can

Women who enter their masculine frame and start acting like men end up miserable and lonely. We all know it, and we clearly see it playing out in society.

But there is a much more nefarious and less-frequently discussed phenomenon that I find much more disturbing.

Vagina envy.

Men are cutting off their own balls, their own masculinity, and acting like they wish they had a vagina.

The Modern Man: I can't wait to find a chick to settle down with. I will sit around doing nothing meaningful with myself, praying for Mrs. Right to save me from my boring life. I want to cuddle on the couch with her and whisper sweet nothings. My greatest ambition in life is to find the Right One.


When our boys stop acting like chicks, maybe our women will stop acting like dudes.

Final thought:

You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King.

So chase the crown, never a bitch.

[–]Enigma221 140 points141 points  (2 children)

Final thought:

You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King.

So chase the crown, never a bitch.

Holy shit this is too real I've never seen it that way before.

[–]d4ng3rz0n3 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Also true: the Queen of England’s boyfriend is not the King.

[–]itsjerryokolo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I should frame this, so I can look at it as soon as I wake every morning. Too real!

[–]krimpenrik 604 points605 points  (22 children)

fuck, I needed this right now.

[–]EqualResponsibility 24 points25 points  (15 children)

Get your Testosterone levels checked. When I was having this issue it was around 150. When it should be 600-800. I’m on TRT now and don’t have these types of thoughts anymore.

The average T levels in men has been decreasing over the decades. It’s likely it will become the normal to be just a few times that of a woman’s instead of being 20 times.

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    [–]EqualResponsibility 9 points10 points  (8 children)

    Yes. And you can do it yourself. There should be a Lab near you that is cash pay only. If you’re in the US it’s likely to cost $20 to get your T checked. There’s multiple types such as Total T and Free T. You can just order both.

    I would personally do it without your doctor first so you know. Once you do it at the doctors make sure to do it in the AM or else insurance won’t accept it or they’ll try to say it’s an acceptable range because it’s later in the day. I had that happen.

    [–]LarrySellerz 10 points11 points  (7 children)

    Dude how old are you? Going on trt will ruin your bodies ability to produce test!!!!

    [–]EqualResponsibility 2 points3 points  (6 children)

    1. And my T levels were 150 when I was 25. Which is why I started.

    [–]LarrySellerz 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    Why not try drastic lifestyle changes?

    [–]EqualResponsibility 6 points7 points  (4 children)

    Because I know what is causing it. Edit:

    I’ll rephrase as what I said isn’t useful.

    I did lifestyle changes. I have Crohns and Severe Anemia. My entire adult life has been one big “let me change my lifestyle to see if it can keep me out of the hospital.” At some point I gave up and realized the TRT was so much more effective and manageable.

    [–]Sylvester_Sterone 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I'm with you. Stated TRT two years ago at 29 when after a couple years of low-t symptoms. Wish I did it earlier.

    Some people have asked, "Don't you know that it will ruin your natural test levels?"

    I respond ," Why would you wan't to come off?"

    [–]EqualResponsibility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It can’t ruin what’s not there to begin with.

    [–]RobertTene 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Hey I was diagnosed with Major Thalassemia which also makes me have severe anemia.

    Wanted to ask you if you think the anemia affected your T levels?

    [–]EqualResponsibility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    From the research papers I found it seems the causation is reversed. Low T causes anemia.

    [–]MakeMenGreatAgain44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I feel for you. Good that you 're on the treatment

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        [–]daffy_duck233 260 points261 points  (21 children)

        In other words, if the men are strong enough, there's no need for women to act strong.

        [–]notthatinnocent24 31 points32 points  (15 children)

        Hard Times create strong AF women too

        [–]Fiesta17 51 points52 points  (9 children)

        Don't listen to the down votes on this one bro. Hard times create strong people, men, women, and everyone in between, the weak ones die off. A real man is best complimented by a strong woman who can handle the shit life throws at her, not a harem of girls with the maturity of children. There's a reason the King still has a Queen even though he has his harem for pleasure.

        [–]1v1MeLittleBitch 2 points3 points  (7 children)

        Harem for pleasure? Can you elaborate on that?

        [–]Fiesta17 5 points6 points  (6 children)

        I just meant like, what does any man have a harem for? My understanding is to use in order to fulfill his sexual fantasies so a kings harem is for his pleasure but the queen still fills an important role in the life of a king.

        [–]1v1MeLittleBitch 2 points3 points  (5 children)

        So the queen doesn't fill the sexual fantasies? I just think if u had 1 girl it'd be a lot less messy but as long she's cool with it do ur thing. She would be cool with it right? You would never want to keep a secret like that from a loved one

        [–]Fiesta17 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        I mean sure, every situation is different but a king is a king and does what a king wants. There are things multiple women can do that one woman cannot and things that differ with emotional attachments. Not every king desires a harem and not every king desires a queen. Whatever situation, we are the kings of our lives, we live by the rules we choose to live by but all of our decisions have consequences so we also choose the rules we allow others to set for us as well. Honesty with a chosen loved one is an honorable decision.

        [–]1v1MeLittleBitch 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        It's a mutual decision... You don't do whatever you want after you make a vow

        [–]RaughKee 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        You shouldn't be getting to the point of making vows without being perfectly clear what you need from a partner and what other needs you have. If you want a side piece or side pieces your main LTR should know that and be ok with it.

        [–]Fiesta17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I mean, yeah dude. That's the way it goes. I think you're reading too far into what I'm saying. I'm just talking about the fundamental philosophy of how hard times create strong women along with strong men. I fail to see how this is related to the original point.

        [–]ATPsynthase12 14 points15 points  (2 children)

        Weak men create strong women. When the men of your society are too busy eating soy, watching porn and cutting their dicks off they can’t be strong by nature so the women have to step up to a role they weren’t meant for.

        Example: today’s society

        [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        Weak men create strong women

        No they don't. They just create demanding women. Right now they get away with it because they are feeding off of waning imperial wealth. One day that spigot will go dry.

        [–]ATPsynthase12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I never said a strong woman was a good woman. More often than not they are terrible people

        [–]hb8only 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        yep.. go to see croatia women - hot, tall but acting hard as fuck in life...

        [–]Hakunamatata_420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Spot on

        [–]Goodava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        So there are no women that are actually strong just acting strong, right?

        [–]SidgeBlueCollars 54 points55 points  (1 child)

        I like the short and sweet ones. Quality not quantity. Well written, mate.

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Like a good chinese proverb -- just enough to part wisdom, not enough to fall asleep.

        [–]Butt_Man_69 108 points109 points  (8 children)

        There was a comedian that said that a king can lift up a woman to become a queen, but a queen can never lift up a man to become king. (Look at Queen Elizabeth’s husband.)

        [–]TheMoreYouKnowRight 71 points72 points  (1 child)

        It was said by Patrice O'neal.

        [–]2chazthundergut[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

        Patrice O'Neil. Legend.

        [–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Yes, but, he's a billionaire, fucked a hot queen back in the day, his kids are all royalty...he did alright.

        Plus...isn't he, mol, allowed mistresses?

        [–]Butt_Man_69 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        I agree, but he’s still not a king.

        [–]juliusstreicher 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        OK, you go be a king-I'll be a billionaire, fuck a hot queen, and have kids who are all royalty.

        [–]Butt_Man_69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I’m just proving the principle.

        [–]thesquarerootof1 22 points23 points  (1 child)

        You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King.

        This is actually a damn good quote

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            [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 32 points33 points  (0 children)

            Ug. I need a tampon after reading this.

            To desire to be loved and accepted.

            Validation seeking behavior is the universal road to ruin for all men. You don't have to adore or despise women for that to be truth.

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              [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 8 points9 points  (2 children)

              This POV denies every man and woman an essential aspect of their humanity. To desire to be loved and accepted. To desire physical and emotional intimacy with someone you love and respect and who loves and respects you.

              This is not at odds with OP's sentiments. In fact this is a byproduct of OP's recommendation. One must not get caught up desiring niceties without being aware that there is time, effort and work that needs to be put in to achieve it. Expecting it without earning it is simply entitlement.

              To desire success in the form of contributing meaningfully to the world and producing more than is needed to take care of one's self

              This may be your mission statement, does not mean it has to apply to all. Each man has the liberty to decide for himself where he derives meaning.

              And your narrow view of gender relations denies all of us an essential aspect of our humanity

              Beware of denying your biological desires in pursuit of humanity.

              [–]moltenw 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Glad to see you get the endorsed tag. Deserved.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Thanks bro, appreciated.

              [–]BewareTheOldMan 57 points58 points  (1 child)

              "You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King."

              I concur and approve this message.

              [–]specklemouse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Crisp and clean.

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              [–]RoyRoyMcBoii 10 points11 points  (6 children)

              Unless people are so feeble they can't think for themselves, this post does not stop anyone doing anything. It is merely a person speaking their mind.

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                        [–]styxus90 16 points17 points  (4 children)

                        As i understood it, OP never said not to be kind... its more a statement against passively sitting around, having a boring life, and waiting for an external source to resolve that. That being said, I think you are right when you say balance is key. One can be a gentle and kind soul, but still get a realistic world view. Thats TRP goals right there.

                        [–]2chazthundergut[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                        Yes. And what does kind mean anyways?

                        Deep down in their soul, most women want to be dominated and used by high-value men. Dicking her down until she is making animal noises into her pillow is just about the nicest thing you can do for a chick.

                        You do yourself and your woman both a disservice when you enter your feminine frame and give up your masculine edge. When you blow up her phone and suffocate her with neediness and affection. When you validate her and seek her validation. When you realign your life to orbit a bitch, instead of chasing your dream and allowing her to orbit you as nature intended.

                        Let the women worry about kind.

                        You focus on being a man.

                        [–]Col-D 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                        No, acting like a man is the ultimate kindness. Problem Is young men no longer have the age old male outlet for the desire for the challenge to over come. A rite of passage to adult manhood

                        [–]trancedj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Exactly. The military was that passage for me. Unfortunately we’re losing that environment as well (mostly).

                        [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 24 points25 points  (5 children)

                        damn, this shit got brigaded hard

                        [–]erthian 14 points15 points  (2 children)

                        Where the fuck are they coming from? Its like backwards land in here.

                        [–]Modredpillschool[M] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                        Working on it!

                        [–]BatemaninAccounting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Some incel communities recently got banned so that's with the influx of these types of depressed men that think they're victims.

                        [–]modTheRedPike[M] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

                        PM i f you have any idea from where.

                        [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        been trying to figure out.. my guess is just your typical reddit commies from r all

                        [–]dbz0x 21 points22 points  (5 children)

                        Mainstream induced/regulated habits such as entertainment, porn, literature are only brainwashing men more and more. Sad to see the slow decline of what it means to be a man, unapologetically. I can’t go a day without some soy boy telling me women deserve respect if I say something men would say traditionally in a man to man conversation. All this while his girl is probably getting railed by her coworker. Currently we’re seeing an attempt to blend the lines between masculinity and femininity. Shits fucked, stay woke my brothers.

                        [–]TheReformist94 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                        Problem is good looking soyboys are getting laid whilst drinking soy turmeric latte. If you aren't good looking enough and admit you support trump, you'll get nexted for a guy who is good looking and supports Hillary. Well that's the case in the UK. I agree with your sentiment.

                        [–]Herkentyu_cico 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                        Wait, in confused. So which side is at fault now?

                        [–]redbossman123 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                        If you’re good looking, you’ll get pussy anyways, but openly liberal men are more likely to get pussy than openly conservative men because women trend liberal and a lot of women hate Trump. At least that’s what I got from his statement.

                        [–]Herkentyu_cico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        actually i can stand for that.

                        The other day i was talking with a girl and the stupid I am brought up immigration. Instant scorn.

                        Lol get denied

                        [–]TheReformist94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        thank you. women have the options to tell right wingers to fuck off.

                        [–]UncleChido 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Great post. Simple, short and concise.

                        [–]Seven_Veils 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I like that, chase the crown..

                        [–]3LiveAFTSOV 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                        Being succinct at it's finest.

                        Also such a true post! So true.

                        Be a fucking king and live all for the sake of victory. Everything to win baby.

                        [–]LodestarAuriga 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        "Chase the crown, never a bitch"

                        I will write this in a post-it, and stick on my bathroom's mirror

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                        [–]tarxan_ 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                        that’s the complete opposite of TRP. If you can’t see that, YOU are probably the neckbeard. Or maybe you aren’t humble enough to accept that you’ve been wrong all your life.

                        When you’re ready to swallow the pill, you know where to find us.

                        We’ll welcome you with open arms. It’s a harsh world with TRP, even colder without it.

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                          [–]modTheRedPike 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                          My morning lately. Coffee, locking threads and banning half of reddit...

                          [–]UpperRedSide 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                          What's funny is that this exactly why my first crush couldn't stand me.

                          We were both independent, career-driven, entrepreneurial individuals. But what I failed to realize is that a woman trying to be the man is hardly compatible with another man.

                          She never straight up blew me off. She was always polite. But our interactions were the most sexless, platonic things I have ever experienced.

                          [–]2chazthundergut[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          You didn't make her pussy tingle dude that's it. The rest is male hamstering.

                          [–]Persaeus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          LOL, i'm sure she rode chad like a bull

                          [–]MiracleMagnet 1 point2 points  (0 children)


                          [–]Nikolai_The_Undying 3 points4 points  (5 children)

                          I mean I guess, sorry I like mushy lovey dovey bullshit. But I'm quite satisfied with my current relationship.

                          [–]ATPsynthase12 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                          I think the point is that if your relationship/woman is the center of your existence then you’re doing it wrong.

                          [–]upupvote2 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                          Love that last line, that's a keeper.

                          [–]LORDFLVCKOJODYE 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                          chase a cheque, never chase a bitch

                          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Yeah, this is why TRP exists. It's why we tell men to lift. It's why we're all here -- all of us. Its up to us gentlemen, would you rather sit down and die miserable from your vagina envy, or get up, lift heavy, get your testosterone flowing and take your life back?

                          [–]HIJKelemenoP 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                          I remember my first day reading the sidebar.

                          [–]ATPsynthase12 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                          I think it comes without saying OP but for those who are slow on the draw, hyper masculine women are a product of hyper feminine/weak men. Society needs the alpha to function. By men becoming weak/feminized we thrusted our women into a role they weren’t made for and aren’t prepared for.

                          Not to be nostalgic but there is truth to the saying:

                          Strong men beget Good Times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, Hard times create Strong Men

                          Do you think Alexander the Great got his epitaph by sitting around reading his copy of the Iliad and wishing he was Achilles? No, he picked up his shield and spear, got on his horse and fucking became him.

                          The real question is do you want to be Alexander the Great or some no name working a 9-5 job you hate existing in mediocracy waiting for something extraordinary to happen to you?

                          [–]2chazthundergut[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                          I wish the modern man would even daydream about becoming Alexander the Great. Nevermind actually picking up a fucking spear.

                          Instead they daydream about a bitch. And about how great their shitty life would be if they had a woman to share it with.

                          Get to work fellas. There are stars to be conquered and empires to be built.

                          [–]Count_Giggles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                          You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King.

                          Patrice O'Neal on the topic skip to 9:20 to spare yourself the irrational ramblings of the women present

                          [–]Poutvora 2 points3 points  (0 children)


                          If a friend asks me what is wrong with girls and why things are a certain (bad) way, I always tell them it's because of us, men. Men push the shift.

                          [–]NotSure_If 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          Losers always whine about doing their best. Kings go home and fuck queens.

                          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          every man needs the red pill. The world would be a better place

                          [–]Bucky_Goldstein 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          I feel like a lot of men want the attention that women get these days, and they are willing to sacrifice their dignity entirely to get some slice of that attention

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                          [–]6ixtyisdead 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                          Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create feminist women

                          [–]Fulp_Piction 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                          This post is suspiciously highly upvoted for such a basic trp message. It's not new or creative, and apparently there's been bloops brigading the comments which makes it even more suspicious. What gives?

                          [–]2chazthundergut[S] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                          I have an army of Russian trolls that upvote all my shit

                          [–]Fulp_Piction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Great, the dollar to rupee exchange rate must be excellent atm

                          [–]modTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          I already answered this question in this thread.

                          Shitace the concern trolls.

                          [–]ahab_dies 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                          There is a serious shortage of traditional men in Western society.

                          Be trad. and the women will come. It's not rocket science what women find attractive and they can never change it no matter how feminist theory they read and talk about.

                          My aunt has been a very outspoken feminist her whole life. Recently I showed her a clip of some Romanian men in their small village in Romania. The government had tried to trick the village into accepting migrants by building a migrant centre but lying about what it was really for. The locals found out the centre's true purpose when the centre started hiring people. These men were on the news saying "we will never accept this. If you push this upon us we will react with violence and force. This is not a reflection of Romanian politics but just us protecting our homes. We don't want to do this but we will and you have been warned. We will not allow our communities to become like the ones in France where the men fear for their women and children walking the streets. We will not let you harm OUR women." Now obviously this is very "problematic", but my aunt surprised me by saying how fucking sexy that male attitude really was. She's spent her whole life as a feminist and is now a forever alone 60 year old. She's calmed down a lot and finally accepted what she has been fighting her whole life. Women like men like that.

                          [–]Idontwatchtv1986 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                          Its no surprise this happens. When a society starts attacking the old fashioned male figure young boys will lose the role model and substitute it with the strong woman who is glorified. I believe nature abhors a vacuum and that explains whats going on.

                          [–]Col-D 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          And we replace those roll models with confused guys who make a pile of cash, but are clueless

                          [–]-saltymangos- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          short, sweet, and to the point. opened my eyes. great post

                          [–]whatplanetrufrom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          My future son in law is just like that. A liberal, pro-feminist, no-balls, skinny jeans wearing girly man. He sits on the floor at my stepdaughter's feet like a little dog. She puts him down and he just laughs. I wonder if he will grow a set one day and become a real man, but I think those balls are long gone. Stepdaughter decided they wouldn't be having kids (he has no say in the matter), so it's not like he needs them anyway, right?

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                          [–]Cgbgjr 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                          Perhaps a better analogy (seen here before) is giving a teenager a new car full of booze in the back seat and waiting to see what happens next. I knew a kid who drove drunk and wrecked four cars in his teen years--his dumb parents kept buying him another car!

                          [–]Dominimus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                          That’s not how democracy works m8

                          [–]bouldurer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Damn, "chase the crown, never a bitch"

                          [–]KeithKATW 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                          I had the crown. Bitches still retarded... Just cuz a motherfucker wants to lay up with a bitch doesn't mean hes a bitch... All niggas want to lay up with a bitch... Bitches are just retarded, which is why they're getting knocked up by retards, becoming single mothers, depending on "child support", 6 jobs, and "Grandma" to take care of the children... Bitches are easily fooled. I know this cuz I used to fool the fuck out of them. Had'em tryna suck on my nuts, but, something inside said "this is wrong", knowing how easy they were to manipulate, so I blew my own cover, on purpose... Now here we are, a couple years down, and bitches just got fucked over by much lesser men, in many cases... Relationships are about a lot more than "fucking"... I was looking for a bitch who WASN'T retarded... someone I could trust... The more I looked, the more I realized that all of these bitches are retarded (or at least a good majority of them)... Modern society is retarded, for that matter... I'm "red-pilled" the fuck out... Still love me some bitches though :)

                          Ps: go watch an Amazon documentary to see more "natural" roles for men and women... The women dont think they're "princesses", nor do the men "act like kings"... They just get along, and function, without being retarded... Something missing in modern life...

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                          [–]basicallyred20 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                          Ugh no, he said you'll get a queen simply by being a king, he didn't mention waiting at all

                          [–]Fantawaters 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          I think it’s more like this: people with vagina envy look for a queen, but men look to be the king and then they get the queen anyway, but at that point (if not before) any one should realise that the crown is 10 times more worthy a prize

                          [–]PM_ME_LEWD_SHIT 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                          Good post. Mods sticky please.

                          [–]modTheRedPike[M] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                          I was actually going to remove it, then I saw all the triggered bloops and decided to leave it up.

                          [–]upupvote2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I second this, this is an important reminder to fight modern conditioning.

                          [–]SomeoneBehindThePC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          This should be added to the sidebar, as a perfect synopsis of the meaning and necessity of TRP.

                          [–]matorin57 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Wtf are you talking about? You are describing a CBS sitcom not real life. Are you talking about Kevin James in the King Of Queens?

                          [–]HeadingRed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          An old friend of mine now passed - true alpha guy. Born poor, died fairly wealthy. Women, good times, etc. On more than one occasion would say "When I die I want to come back as a broad. I want they golden pussy. I want to get all of this stuff I had to work for just by being willing to fuck. I don't think I would even have to be that good at it."

                          [–]BackandStronger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          As famously stated in the previous posts, I've come to TRP today to learn something about women. Learned about men instead.

                          [–]MisterRoid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          I can relate to that. I used to think that my life would get better, so long as I had a girlfriend that loved me. Thankfully I came to the insight that happiness has to come from within.

                          [–]Gamers_Rise_Up 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          I feel called out for being a lil pussy, I really need to man the fuck up and stop acting that way, thanks OP

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Great, great post, right to the point....late to the party here.....women are, indeed, a lagging indicator.

                          I was at the coffee shop a couple hours ago, and the water was out. I had been flirting with the hired help, joking about how I might lose my man card if I drink the coconut flavored coffee (as if my preferred french vanilla is any more manly)....so, she hadn't filled the water that I pointed out was empty an hour previously. I said, "The water is still empty" and she said she's been busy, but the pitcher was right there. I just looked at her quizzically. Some dude was like, here's some water, grabbed the pitcher, filled my cup, and proceeded to fill the water container, bragging about it the whole time.

                          I could have done the same. Fuck that. I want to keep the flirtation in the right place, and that place certainly is not from supplication.

                          [–]hbss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          You got lost in the sauce.

                          Women start careers and shit because of money and power. They have advantages in their way and their parents are more keen to support em. End of the story.

                          It’s not about willing to be a men. It’s not because of hypergamy.

                          You could be a clerk at the store or an engineer at some startup.

                          The first one gives you 6 day weeks and 900$ a month, the other 4,5 days weeks and 3k a month. What would you do?

                          [–]Excuses365 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Live for the woman, become the woman.

                          [–]Herkentyu_cico 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                          Okay I'm a bit confused here. (obviously) I'm a newcomer. So this sub is completely against marriage and doesn't advocate settling down???

                          [–]2chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I can't speak for the sub.

                          I am against marriage as a rule. There is no upside for men and tons of downside.

                          As for settling down? No. I don't advocate settling down.

                          I advocate climbing up.

                          [–]gbdoragnic 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                          This doesn't mean anything, if you put effort into dating you will get in what you put in it, a byproduct isn't true, nothing is a by product, so why is sex with a women the magical thing? If you focus just on your job you become beta bucks?

                          [–]2chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                          I got a lot more pussy by grinding on my passion and becoming successful than I ever did from dating.

                          [–]gbdoragnic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          I got 0 grinding on my passion, and I was quite successful , I got pussy with minimal effort by using PUA

                          [–]Uly-sses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          The funny thing about penis envy is that is what fuels these replacing men reboots. They wish to replace men in every successful role on television, politics and anything else that they can think of. The comedy in it is that it is perpetual failure.

                          I have seen some blue pilled men go for the idea of wanting to be women (not being hated for being a man) and pretend to be more feminine. I think it is a mental disorder from suffering from childhood, and could be fixed through therapy or such. Not so much if they go all out and remove the very essence of being a man, as they will be irreparably damaged physically and mentally at that point.

                          Either way, let them have their collapse, as women claim their superiority, as then they will need men like us to fix what they have broken. That is much how I see it.

                          [–]Vasallo7G 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          This is way too good.....but what are the options for a women when guys can not even support themselves

                          [–]2chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          There aren't that many options for women. Chicks are starving for masculine, high-value men.

                          It really is a seller's market out here.

                          [–]ThatCurlBro -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                          With every year, we lose dimorphism.

                          [–]omega_dawg93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          hey wait a minute! "if the queen ain't happy, nobody's gonna be happy. but guess what, the queen is still the king's bitch."

                          i think Patrice O'Neal did that joke.

                          that modern man quote is very real. i work with a lot of young guys who literally say that shit... almost verbatim.

                          they actually have discussions about their wonderful wedding day and how they can't wait to find their "perfect girl."

                          i tried to educate them... even provided links to Rollo's books. they ignored it all; i said fuck it.

                          [–]uber_kerbonaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          It's probably more of a phase that people have sometimes than an epidemic. Pretty normal to want a wide variety of of things in life isn't it? Especially those you've never tried.

                          That's said, I do consider a chronic lack of ambition to be a problem.

                          [–]yammyha -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                          strong words, great mindset. So true when I see my female friends who break up with their bf's and enter the masculine frame of choosing which boys to hang out with and focusing on their career

                          [–]v74u -4 points-3 points  (6 children)

                          I swear this is about the millionth time on this sub I’ve heard to never worry about one woman. I feel like most the guys on this sub didn’t get girls and felt rejected so now they just try to get as many girls as possible, chasing the feeling they never felt when they were younger. Treating their past feelings of rejection and loneliness with as many girls as possible. Not realizing they just traded in one mental issue for another. Seeking happiness through women will always leave you miserable, the key is to realize that. It doesn’t matter if you just want to be with one girl or a hundred.

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