Maximize your appearance before trying to become the Gandalf of social skills. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by kennytrp

I'd bet my left nut most people here think reaching savant-tiers of social wizardry is the key to female attention. It sort of reminds me of a self-help forum where deep, analytical theories are being spouted left and right and taking action is delayed for better times.

Women are not so intricate and complex as you portray them. You don't need an opener that stimulates some latent biological urge and you don't need to break them down to micro-expressions and tonal shifts.

You want to get laid?

First of all, upgrade your wardrobe. Follow some Streetfashion accounts on Instagram and imitate their style. Put your own flair on it, but adhere to color schemes and don't wear baggy clothes. It's 2017, looking like you came straight out of a 90s rap video ain't gon' cut it - and FYI, I'm a huge rap fan.

The importance of clothes is often overlooked. Depending on the clothes I wear, I can go from looking like an absolute fucking bum to looking fresher than a fashion week in Paris.

Get a nice haircut that fits your head shape. Hair and clothes will make up 80% of your looks as a male. Extremely few, IF ANY, men look good with an oily Russian fringe haircut, a dirty wife-beater and oversized pants.

For reference: Look at any pussy-wetting actors who transform from jaw-droppingly handsome hunks to ugly ass bums from role to role.

Check out hairstyles on Instagram, Pinterest or go to some male hair advice forums on the internet.

Clear up your skin, get accutane if your face looks like a field of Pompeii volcanoes mid-eruption. Go to some skincare sub on Reddit for more information.

Invest in some physical accessories like bracelets, a nice watch and clean shoes. Also, stay fresh by showering daily, invest in some decent shampoo, some nice brand of perfume, a nail-clipper and some razor blades/electric shaver and maybe whiten your teeth if you've bathed them in coffee and cigarette smoke the past decade. Go to the gym. You don't have to look like Jeff Seid or Big Ramy. Just work out three times a week and eat accordingly.

Not that easy, huh? Analyzing and speculating won't give you a nice haircut and a fresh wardrobe. But I can promise you that if you maxed out your physical appearance this week, you'd get laid far more than any sleight-of-hand, psychological hocus-pocus.

If you're not gonna be the most genetically gifted man in the room, at least be the freshest man in the room. Everything else will fall into place. Dress nicely and look your best, get more attention from women, more attention from women equals more experience and experience with a tinge of common sense is all you need. No fucking opener in the world is going to net you any significant results if you look like Gollum, trust me.

Wanting to use psychological hocus pocus to manipulate womens' brain matter and biological urges is a bitter man's fantasy. It borders on the insane. Get that notion out of your head because it ain't happening.

If you can't get laid regularly with 6-8s by maximizing your appearance in the manner stated above, then you probably have autism or suffer from severe social anxiety, because literally all you have to do is act like a normal person and show some interest. For 8+? Still maximize your appearance but also work on your charm, smile a lot, be inviting to all kinds of people and proceed to expand your social circle.

[–]3nebder 253 points254 points  (49 children)

Don't forget posture. Chest up, head straight. Squeeze your glutes and you can feel your back straighten. If you've been lifting your posture will improve with your core. Getting pecs? Don't slump them away.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 89 points90 points  (39 children)

Need to work on my anterior pelvic tilt.

[–]DarkConquerer 34 points35 points  (6 children)

So many people you can see walking around suffer from anterior pelvic tilt. I blame it on how sedentary our lifestyles have become.

[–]Desadarius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Breathing deep and through your stomach helps. I've gotten rid of mine over the course of 2 months.

[–]Alexinfinite01 0 points1 point  (3 children)

My posture is terrible and I have no idea how to fix it 😧

[–]DarkConquerer 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Look up Athlean-X on youtube. He has a bunch of videos on proper form and posture. I first learned about the whole anterior pelvic tilt thing from watching his videos, and he also has tips on how to fix it.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 29 points30 points  (27 children)

You will add an inch or even two to your height when you fix this. And you will be amazed at the difference an inch to your height makes.

I got persuaded (by /fit/) into trying 'lifts' that I put in boots to add 2.5 inches. Im already 6 foot so Im not height conscious. But the difference it made in gaming girls was astonishing. Being 6'2.5'' was just so much easier than 6'. I was getting opened by 9s when I was just sat on my ow stuffing my face with pizza - whereas normally I would have to game them with good skill and be 'in the zone'.

I recommend anyone here spends the £8 or whatever to try it out just to see for themselves.

Also if you work in sales then especially try it - a lot of reviewers I saw said they were making more money using them.

[–]aznredpill 27 points28 points  (14 children)

Wait how did the 2.5" inches in your boots help you when you were SITTING? Maybe placebo effect?

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 13 points14 points  (13 children)

I was actually standing eating the pizza at aa standing table an outdoor place.

Girl looked me direct in the eye and asked her friend to leave and scout out the area for other food outlets while she ate. Girl was confused then looked at me and laughed in a you-go-girl way and left her alone with me. 2pm on a saturday in the city

edit: i realise I wrote "just sat on my own". that was a mistake. Emphasise was that I was on my own

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (10 children)

Thanks for the tips, bud. You're most definitely right, height makes a diff. If you don't have height, you have to make up in other areas obviously.

I'm about 6 ft, probably gonna add lifts for bonus.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 7 points8 points  (9 children)

My theory is that adding those 2-3 inches moves you from the top 40% in height to the top 5-10%. And remember that women are only after top 10-20%. And height is one of the things that matters in raw sexual desire (signals dominance, status, physical fighting ability).

So in terms of getting girls to be opening you, those inches between 6'0 and 6'3'' can make all the difference.

Also I have a reason to wear mine - I have acute knee tendonitis after a dislocation. I'm already doing physio and switched to box squats (instead of squats), but the lifts help a bit. So if ever I get questioned about it I can agree and amplify about being-so-short-I'm-sensitive-about-it (as Im clearly not) but also drop in an actual reason in passing. That is/will be enough to shut up any potential shit tests about it if it gets noticed - which I doubt it even will tbh.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (3 children)

dominance, status, physical fighting ability

You got one right. Status. People give tall guys status, it doesn't mean they're more capable or anything else, just taller, but they get the added bonus of people giving them status... probably due to the reason girls like tall guys.

What height does to attract girls is simple. They feel small, they like that. They have to look up to him like they had to look up to their dad when they were little. Every girl is like that, they don't need daddy issues to be that way, they only have to have been born a girl.

Most tall guys can't fight, they get their assess kicked if they do end up fighting. It's because they rarely have to and that means they don't know how without training, even then against someone else with training, they're usually fucked for anything other than straight boxing. Misconception by guys is all that is.

[–]MisterNotKnowItAll 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I'm guessing women don't really notice the difference once you take the boots off? Probably wouldn't, especially if they're out wearing heels.

[–]killking72 32 points33 points  (1 child)

I mean if the boots are coming off then you already have her.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I've fixed it before but it came crawling back. Yeah I'm 6ft also. What exactly are the lifts you're talking about?

Recently bought some boots with a slight lift so maybe I'll have a bit of an SMV boost with them.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I linked them in another comment next to this one. Nothing special about the particular pair though. I just picked some with decent reviews that gave about 2 inches

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah had a google last night. Great tip cheers.

[–]DiggerClam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lifts are awesome, but you have to size up your footwear and fuck they can make your feet sore.

[–]LiftHardNext 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Link to the lifts you use? Coming from a 5'9 guy ..

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wore these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lifts-Quality-Cushion-Insoles-Taller/dp/B00BY5VS1K

And I wore them in Chelsea boots (as they have a high top). You cant just put them in sneakers as it will be visible that you are wearing them.

[–]DeathToTheZog 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Wait what my hip alignment is all out of wack. what is the trick?

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's wrong with it? I have more issues than APT but APT is the only one I've diagnosed.

YouTube some videos on treating APT.

[–]BrodinsOats 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If your hip alignment is out of wack, you should try getting used to barefoot or minimal shoes. Slowly, don't rush it. Do your research.

[–]IWantaPupper 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Know any good exercises for the glutes while at work? I do a lot of standing. Edit: flutes to Glutes

[–]LordThunderbolt 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Yeah, squats and dealift movements

[–]freshoutofgravitas 8 points9 points  (1 child)

DEA lifts are risky, but the profits are insane. avoid sketchy pilots, brah

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

while at work? 1 leg deadlifts

[–]skrrrttt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd also like to add in that you want to feel relaxed and the same time

[–]throwawaydegar 84 points85 points  (33 children)

Good post. I like this a lot and thought to post something similar. Just real basic stuff you can do that takes very little effort.

Some stuff I'll add that makes a surprisingly big difference or compliments stuff you've already brought up.

I hate shopping so I do it all online. Shop whilst looking at the blogs and Instagram accounts. The fit is as important as the clothes so order lots and send back what doesn't work.

Iron your shirt. For real. Iron it. You think people don't notice. They do. Or ideally get someone else to iron them.

Clip your nails and make sure they are clean.

Deodorant. Wear it. Of course.

Aftershave. Use it. Get some on hair and behind your ears if going to a bar as people lean in to talk.

Moisturize. Skin care forums are a good idea but to be honest just moisturize when you leave the house. Easy. Requires no thought.

Make any facial hair "deliberate" I. E. Shape it and trim it rather than just seeing what grows where.

If you do all of the above at the same time. You will be better looking than you were before.

[–]throwawaydegar 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I'll add regular haircuts to that list. Don't wait until it looks shitty to get it cut. Go do it before that point just make it part of your schedule. Maintain rather than fix.

[–]throwawaydegar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One more.

I won't iron shirts. I'll say I'm going to. I won't. It's a hassle. Who has that time.

Shirts don't go with regular laundry. Seperate basket. When it's full-ish whole basket goes over the road to a dry cleaner for washing and pressing. Do 10 at a time. Usually a discount for every 5 shirts.

Do this. You won't iron. It doesn't cost much. In fact depending on your hourly rate you might be at a loss by doing it yourself.

Always being in a pressed shirt? Again, better looking and I did nothing other than fill a basket and drop it somewhere.

[–]Crailberry 1 point2 points  (18 children)

Where do you shop online for clothes? I think going the online route might be best for me and have no idea where to start.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Honestly you'll find most clothes for pennies on eBay, already used. Might not be the most popular advice on here but you can try out loads of stuff without breaking the bank and committing to any specific look.

Obviously you can't buy white t shirts on eBay or something that gets ruined easily but boots/shoes, jackets, jeans, whatever you can find.

[–]Andrea-Amilcare 11 points12 points  (4 children)

For Jeans, I'm an Old Navy guy. Fit is what matters with Jeans and the Old Navy slim fit jeans are solid. They constantly have 30% and sometimes 40% off of their stuff so you can get really good prices.

For T-shirts, I mostly do ASOS or H&M. If you have the body for it, ASOS have muscle fit shirts that highlight your gains like crazy. If you have big arms, you'll get tons of looks from both women and men.

The slim fits from H&M are inexpensive and decent as well.

More than anything, you have to remember that clothing is about fit first and foremost.

[–]Rudeyyyy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I've found for jeans American Eagle is the best fit for me. I'm short but my legs are pretty lean and I've noticed that American Eagle Slim Straight jeans are not only really comfortable but fit extremely well to my legs. They aren't baggy, and aren't cutting or circulation skinny. They go with your leg and they're surprisingly really comfortable.

I havent tried any other style but when I get timbs I'm going to look into boot cut.

I really recommend trying them out.

[–]DontTreadOnSnek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

H&M has great slim fit clothes in my opinion, can't beat that price either

[–]InterNetting 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Amazon prime. Order everything you want to try on. Keep what you like, send the rest back free shipping no questions asked.

[–]throwawaydegar 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I tend to do ASOS. Because I can but a whole new wardrobe for not THAT much money. Stuff being new and fitting do right is better than a brand. ASOS also have easy returns so buy in bulk. Try it all send back stuff you don't want to keep.

Seriously, throw out old t shirts and go buy a bunch of multi pack plain t shirts. Tiny step. Simple. You look better.

[–]Crailberry 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Cool, I'll check it out. Where are you getting multi pack t shirts from? I'm assuming you're not ordering those

[–]throwawaydegar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ASOS I just bought 10 plain colour t shirts. I don't know how much it was but, not much. The fact it's a cost I've not remembered tells you what you need to know really.

[–]yonormalguy 2 points3 points  (4 children)

depends on the type of style you want to give off..

but for basics, every man should a few basic solid color tees, a button up, a nice pair of slim- skinny blue jeans, a bomber jacket or a hoodie and a solid white pair of shoes

depending on your price range, you can shop online at stores such as $Zara/Gap, $$J- Crew, or $$APC/Acne

if you want to know more about brands check out the subreddit malefashionadvice.

[–]Crailberry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Huh. Thats weird. My wardrobe consists mostly of blank solid color tees, a few button ups, a pair skinny-slim blue jeans, I own one bomber jacket by G-Star, hoodies, and I always wear my white low top converses.

I must be doing okay then.

[–]DontTreadOnSnek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Find what works for you, Lucky Brand fits my body type leagues better than any other brand, so I buy all my jeans and nicer shirts at their stores.

[–]_MysticFox 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How do you trim to get to a specific beard length? I have an electric shaver and I've never used anything else

[–]throwawaydegar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just do electric trimmer all over. Take time. Do it proper. Them shave neck and above beard line with a wet normal razor.

Or if I have something to go to like a wedding, weekend away or holiday or something I'll go to a Turkish barber. We have 1000s in this country and get them to sort it for cheap.

[–]DontTreadOnSnek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use the "3" size on my Gillette electric trimmer, trim down the beard, and fade into my upper sideburns using a comb.

Take off the guard, shape up the beard on the cheeks, and hack off mostly everything on the neck.


Take my regular Gillette razor, and hit the neck again just to give everything a nice and clean look.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Now that you've mentioned it, I've had women tell me various times how good I smell after using aftershave. I might have to use it more often.

[–]throwawaydegar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always. I notice when a girl smells good, makes sense it would be the same. Plus men are fucking horrible. If women use stuff to smell better men for sure should.

[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

they don't charge you for sending shit back? i figure you'd be down a lot of money on shipping charges.

[–]throwawaydegar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, its free. Order comes with a pre paid bag and shipping label for returns. Just fill out the form shove it in the bag and carry on with your day.

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[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yeah, it's laughable when all these guys talk about the fatties with sooooo much game they fuck supermodels.

I was borderline socially retarded in college but still had so much female attention because I was also 6'4" 230 with a 30 inch waist. There are times I still want to punch my younger self for being so awkward but it doesn't change the fact that I was swimming in pussy.

[–]Pragmaticpandas 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'm a firm believer that if you're jacked and tan, pussy will be thrown at you. Obviously. Still working on the jacked part but props to you my man, sounds like you made it

[–]Augustuscrassus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pretty much. I have a fake tinder profile I use for a laugh when I'm bored, and trust me the difference is massive. Not just in quality of matches, but they actually open me 90% of the time. Even if they don't open, they'll usually respond to anything I say. I get the same# of matches on my real tinder but the quality isn't the same and it's much harder to flirt. Still a long way to go it seems.

[–]SandpaperScrew 27 points28 points  (10 children)

Do what I did and get good at guitar. I could get laid drunk and naked as long as I'm strumming some pop bullshit.

[–]Shakydrummer 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Fuck I wish it was that easy. Drums are my thing but if I'm not playing on a 4 piece house kit I'm too worried about my gear to chase tail hahaha

[–]goodbyehouse 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I found playing the drums in my band has brought me more attention than when I was playing guitar. However nothing beats the early 2000s when I was DJing in clubs. Want to get laid playing music become a good DJ.

[–]freshoutofgravitas 5 points6 points  (0 children)

drummers are always naturally ripped, upper bod wise. I've been shredding and screaming for years, but those guys chip into my f closer numbers on that alone

[–]satanicpriest13 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Tfw when bass player with a preference for thrash metal.

[–]SandpaperScrew 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of girls into that. Just don't go playing it at a JcPenneys and you'll be fine.

[–]wishGodWouldTakeMe 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Any advice on what to do after you can play guitar? I'm literally a professional musician and have only gotten laid twice from it. I've never TRIED to get laid from it either but I don't really get pussy thrown at me.

[–]SandpaperScrew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Invite girls you know to your shows or open mics. Whatever will let her see you playing in front of an audience that likes you. Works every time.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I put up a similar piece back in March under another account called "10 tips guaranteed to boost your attractiveness" and the Comments section was full of guys, probably naturally good-looking, saying shit like "Pffft! I don't need any of this shit, it's for Beta's!"

The obliviousness of those blessed genetically knows no bounds.

You're absolutely right to focus on the basic-basics, rock on bro.

[–]Andrea-Amilcare 61 points62 points  (29 children)

Magic_Fox on Instagram is a great one to follow as well. Style is so simple when you have a good body. Slim fit black jeans, slim fit v-neck tee in black or white and that sets you ahead of 90% of men out there. It's that fucking easy.

[–]iLoveReddit32 17 points18 points  (14 children)

wow! That dude is suave. He was born with a great/strong jaw line though. Bitches love that. Thats purely genetic.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (11 children)

No, he wasn't born with a great jaw line. He worked for it. Do you see how jacked and shredded he is? You have such a defeatist attitude.

Get yourself to sub 15% BF and you'll start to see your jawline too.

Source: I lost 20 pounds and gained a jawline.

[–]kellykebab 65 points66 points  (7 children)

Not everyone is a fatass, dude. Some people do have naturally better facial structure than others.

[–]iLoveReddit32 7 points8 points  (0 children)

yeah, thats all I'm saying.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

You're not wrong. But homeboy above is in the completely wrong mindset.

I'm never gonna be taller than 5'8. Would I ever make a comment saying, "He was born with height. Bitches love that. It's purely generic"???

Hell no.

[–]kellykebab 14 points15 points  (3 children)

I don't think the guy was psyching himself out, he was just making an observation.

[–]iamneptuno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So much this. It must be an American thing to automatically assume fat.

[–]iLoveReddit32 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I'm actually 6'5'' and 180 lbs. I am under-weight and have been trying to gain weight for years. Too much fat is not the issue.

[–]nolonger34 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just because you're underweight doesn't mean you have low body fat. Skinny fat is a body type too.

[–]senpaicreampie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Attitude lmao. Just because you may be able to see someone's jawline doesn't mean it's as nice as the model in question

[–]HeadphoneSpaghetti 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How the hell do you squeeze yourself into slim fit jeans when you have good body? I'm still a beginner in the gym, but already I have to wear straight cut, and soon will probably need to switch to athletic cut.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Good post.

I think that you're right when you say "all theory, no action" is the bane of a man's existence. If you're just starting, or in a rut, do SOMETHING to get the positive feedback loop started. The real answer is that there are no easy answers, just hard work and results.

[–]MaxwellGaine 15 points16 points  (8 children)

If the idea of a wardrobe overhaul sounds expensive and time consuming, follow the r-frugalmalefashion sub for a month.

Got a ton of decent clothes for 50-80% off.

[–]anonlymouse 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Another way to do it is to focus on lifting and do your wardrobe overhaul as you grow out of your old clothes.

[–]MaxwellGaine 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Yeah, don't be a jackass like me and restock the wardrobe right before a bulk

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    [–]MaxwellGaine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Depends how hard you bulk I guess

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    You underestimate what your body will be like at 6'0 200.

    If you actually commit to bulking, wait at least a year to overhaul your wardrobe.

    Source: I've gone from 5'8 130 to 185 to 155 (at the moment)

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I always get some good finds at Goodwill. Not shit I'd wear to a party, but while I'm losing weight, its good enough before I hit my body goals as I transition from 25% body fat to sub10%. 5% more to go.

    [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

    stay fresh by showering daily

    It's scary people need to be told this.

    [–]newName543456 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Let's up the ante for autists:

    When it's hot, shower more often than that.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Shower after the gym. Shower before you hop into bed. Keeps your bed smelling less dank, but you should still be washing your bed sheets at least a couple times a month.

    That's all you gotta do.

    [–]Flawless44 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    Also keep in mind that there are things you can do to change your looks. Regardless of if your looks are gimped because of nature or nurture, don't discount cosmetic procedures to improve your looks after you've done what you can by upgrading your style and your body.

    If most clothes don't look good on you after you're 12% bf ... It's probably your face and you're in denial.

    [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    The issue is many users here want to be red pill while at the same time holding true to their hipster pajama boy look wearing plaid flannel shirts, skinny jeans and birkenstocks to go with their gnarly unkept beard and thick black frame glasses. Or they want to continue to wear oversized shirts and baggy JNCO jeans as if they just appeared in a skateboarding video. You made many good points but it will fall on deaf ears.

    [–]DynamicPressure 8 points9 points  (4 children)


    So many chicks I've managed to bag have ALWAYS pointed out my shoe game.

    Not sneakers. Fuck that.

    Grab some good quality boots, oxfords, or loafers and pair them with everything from slim fit jeans to chinos. Also make sure your sock game is on Andre 3000 level lol. You can pull pussy with just a well fitting T or Henley, genuine slim fit blue denim, and a pair of well worn brown boots. Some boots give 1"-2" of lift too ;)

    My favorite style website is coolmaterial.com. Check it out for inspiration and just general cool guy shit.

    Most importantly is how the clothes fit you. Lots of guys shy away from slim or skinny jeans/pants, don't. My quads and calves are nicer than my upper body ATM (track in high school/college) so nice fitting jeans show of them quads and glutes. Just make sure the boys aren't choking each other out and you'll be good.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    You just nailed my whole wardrobe.

    Long sleeve henleys, waffle shirts, vneck tees, chinos (not a huge fan of jeans), and boots or boat shoes depending on the season.

    [–]getRedPill 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    where ​online you buy boots and which brand? The issue with shoes online is the sizing and accuracy.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Good post. Others have commented well enough on the basics of looking good. i.e. rule #1 be attractive

    Wanting to use psychological hocus pocus to manipulate womens' brain matter and biological urges is a bitter man's fantasy. It borders on the insane. Get that notion out of your head because it ain't happening.

    Guys.... worry about your frame, your mental state, and feel good about yourself. Spending time being a manipulative fuck should happen as a by-product of experiencing TRP in the wild. So get yourself a fresh look and get out there.

    [–]fischbrot 8 points9 points  (10 children)

    very interested in teeth whitening! ... never done it, loved coffee and cigarettes for a decade or two!

    care to share anybody?

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)


      [–]fischbrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Zoom treatment

      thanks. dont think i can find it in germany : )

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      I second this. I rarely brushed my teeth until I was like 8 years old, they are not extremely yellow but they'd look better being whiter.

      [–]kennytrp[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)


      Either that or head over to a real clinic and get your teeth whitened properly. Both work fairly well, but I'd guess a real practitioner could do it more safely.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I use something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZZXG2CJ?psc=1

      Along with whitening toothpaste and mouthwash and crest whitening strips. Has worked well for me.

      [–]SoundKat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I use the CVS whitening kit. Very good IMO.

      [–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 8 points9 points  (11 children)

      If anyone cares or need helps with scents feel free to ask me, i'm very interested in fragrances, i don't claim to be an expert but i think i have a decent grasp of mens frags. If you just "go with the flow" or ask the assistant at your frag store chances are you'll wind up with something very generic that will smell like everyone else (like Dior Sauvage, ADG, 1 Million) and then you dont use the scent to differentiate from other people and potentially when on a date ur scent will remind her of her ex. I'm not saying to go for an offensive niche frag just pick something else besides "top 10 most popular" and be aware of when to wear what, what weather, what temperature, what season, how much to apply etc. I'll gladly help out if people give me some specifics.

      [–]BinaryResult 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Going to have to disagree. I spent a full hour at the fragrance counter with my brother smelling every damn cologne they had (ended up with a bit of a headache) and landed on Sauvage by Dior (like $75/bottle). I have gotten so many damn compliments on it from men and women alike, entire conversations centered around how good I smell, even became a running joke, I was shocked how much of a difference it made.

      [–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Yeah thats all fine and well. Dior Sauvage is very popular, infact its so popular that its the most sold fragrance at the moment which means this is the scent shes most likely to run into. Its very generic. In my opinion its not the greatest scent but i can see the appeal for some people, it has amazing performance (value for the drops) the scent itself is on the synthetic side and its very metallic as well in my opinion, it is however a pretty masculine scent with strong projection and sillage. I get why people buy Sauvage, but due to the fact that its the most popular fragrance i'd just stay away unless you don't mind smelling like everyone else. And still in my opinion, it becomes very synthetic after a while and flat-out headache inducing. Glad you enjoy it though :) The thing scents can do is it can make yourself feel better and thats important, just like with clothes it can automatically enhance your confidence quite abit if u percieve urself as looking fresh.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Are you that guy from Perfume?

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 43 points44 points  (9 children)

      Good post. If you're not good looking, you need elite level social skills to get laid. If you look hot all you have to do is not fuck it up.

      Clear up your skin, get accutane if your face looks like a field of Pompeii volcanoes mid-eruption

      Vitamin E supplements can often help a lot too.

      Invest in some physical accessories like bracelets, a nice watch and clean shoes

      And consider a necklace or three and earstuds. Make your look have a bit of an edge to it.

      Be consistent in your look.... BUT also hint at more with contrast. The business suit with a tattoo showing. The surfer dude with an expensive watch. The leather jacket with pink underwear showing above your jeans.†

      Facial hair: have some. Trim it short enough that it looks even. Aim for masculine.

      Grooming: trim all the fucking nosehair, ear hair, uneven beard bits, excessive chest hair, etc. Women will evaluate you based on your worst feature, groom accordingly.

      Go to the gym

      I know that noone wants to hear this on TRP, but bodyfat is king. Lose the fucking flab. Skinny is attractive, skinny with muscles is best.

      Wanting to use psychological hocus pocus to manipulate womens' brain matter and biological urges is a bitter man's fantasy.

      Women respond to dominant commanding articulate intelligent men. No reason to ignore game and chat. Physical stuff matters, other stuff matters as well.

      †This one is a joke.

      [–]takaiu 52 points53 points  (4 children)

      3 necklaces and an earstud? Ni🅱🅱a u gay

      [–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I agree, but let me tell you about an aquaintance with sharktooth bracelets and leather necklaces, he does threeways with girls whom he both picked up that night. I would never wear them because they really are trailer trash, but it works.

      [–]D4rkr4in 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      have you heard of peacocking? /u/MattyAnon is spot on...

      [–]M1ster_X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I understood that reference.

      [–]_MysticFox 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Vitamin E cream or orally?

      Where can you find things to contrast with? I'm specifically looking at a more dressed-up look, so either a necklace or some sort of wristband I'm assuming.

      Also, how do you groom facial hair or get it to a specific look? I've used an electric shaver all my life.

      [–]senpaicreampie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      put coconut oil on your skin. Raw and virgin, unrefined coconut oil. It works wonders (partially because of vitamin E). If you want to ingest it, there are a dozen extra health benefits to that as well, including healthy skin.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Yeah dressing well can work. What works better is muscle. Trust me on that, because I only need to wear a black T shirt and jeans to get female attention. Go lift, and not the standing around looking at shit thing I see people doing, fucking lift heavy shit. Get big, it works even when you're old like I am.

      Second point. Work on appearance and social skills at the same time. You spergs can do more than one thing at a time, if you don't you're going to miss opportunity while you're working on one thing and not the other. If you can't talk to girls for shit, no matter how stylish you dress, you won't get pussy. You have to get in the door, that's where what you look like comes into play, it's what you do after she shows interest that matters.

      Pussy is voice activated.

      [–]V1SoR 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      Finally something that isn't complete shit. A post worth upvoting. I already knew all of that though, but I'm sure someone will discover something new here.

      [–]hardly_incognito 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      Pro-tip for guys who are balding too: just shave the shit.

      See a lot of dudes who would look fine if they just got rid of the huge ass receding hairline that goes to the middle of their head and EMBRACED the baldness.

      Usually bald guys can rock a nice beard, so make that fucker fresh af.

      [–]1empatheticapathetic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I just wear a beanie. Fuck the world

      [–]galtsays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Definitely solid advice, have been saying this for years.

      [–]goodbyehouse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I'm in general a slob. But I love getting dressed up. Just last night went to a restaurant and a movie on a double date. People will treat you differently not just women everyone. Also if you are dressed smart you can compliment someone else's appearance by just sounding interested. Just saying "Nice belt" or "I love your shoes" makes people believe that you notice the small things.

      [–]EscortSportage 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Im no expert but accutane is extremely bad for you, there are much better, healthier, organic ways to clean up acne.

      But yes I totally agree with your post about fashion and grooming, ive been saying this for years. STOP wearing the flashy basketball sneakers, and the teenage boy shit. Get some good fitting jeans (cheap levies are my go to) a fitted black v neck t shirt (also cheap) and a nice fitted blazer and you are like 80% better than the rest of the assholes wearing jordans, fucking ranger jerseys, and other jerkoff shit. Then, you wear a nice, modest watch on your left wrist, some clean sunglasses maybe throw in some kind of hat (not a purple fucking fitted) and you are booming, 90% above the rest.


      Match your belt to your shoes, (watch to both for an extra level)

      Tie touches belt or is in the center of your belt (not the mile long TRUMP tie christ wtf is he thinking) then again when you have billions you dont give a shit about your tie length

      wear fitted clothing

      [–]blackedoutfast 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      i was gonna call bullshit on your post based in the title but then i read it. you're not really talking about maximizing your appearance, you're talking about doing the bare minimum to go from "absolutely unfuckable" to "maybe" - and that is absolutely correct. if you're a greasy, smelly weirdo wearing bad clothes chicks will mentally place you in the box of "absolutely unfuckable" based on your appearance alone and it won't matter how well you can spit game.

      do you guys seriously need to be told to take showers daily and keep your fingernails trimmed and get a decent haircut? for fucks sake. maybe that explains all the incels.

      [–]SillyPutty47 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I think it's a great post!... For another sub; aka incels, amiugly, dating advice, etc. Most of the guys here know all of this, but a reminder isn't a bad thing every now and then.

      [–]Huskimbo9 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I'm down with upgrading my wardrobe but no way in hell im dressing up like a Pokémon trainer/emo lesbians .

      [–]Mostlyright91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      The concept of this post is good. Saying 80% of looks is hair and clothes is retarded. Saying if you can't get laid regularly with 6-8's you are autistic or severly social anxious is a huge exaggeration unless you mean straight 6's on an ugly person's scale.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I dropped 50 pounds, gained an inch on my arms and shoulders, buzzed my thinning hair, and bought some H&M shirts.

      Girls immediately found my jokes funnier for some reason.

      [–]Aghayden 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      What kind of results do you get? How many women have you approached?

      Obviously looks matter and should be optimized, but so does your game, being dismissive of it is extremely binary thinking.

      [–]CapnMcDickSmack 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      How do you fix physically unattractive ugly repulsive face? I've never talked to a female because every time I tried they rather blow their brains out than look at me.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      You don't, especially with that attitude.

      Losing weight can make facial features more defined, being healthy and hygienic can improve skin quality, your haircut has a big impact as does facial hair and eyebrows, facial expression is a factor, etc.

      I can't say if any of this will help you. I can say that if you seriously think your face makes girls want to blow their brains out that is a sad fucking thought and you need help.

      [–]weirdistheway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I agree with this to an extent. I used to stress about what clothes to wear. Now, I really just wear solid minimalist colors. Nice fitting dark blue or gray shirts with jeans and chucks are pretty much my go-to.

      I think it's more about finding out what you feel comfortable and confident in than trying to borrow style from Instagram pages. Some people are clueless tho. And a nice haircut definitely makes a big difference.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Did all that and more and I still can't get laid. I don't have social anxiety or autism either.

      [–]Desadarius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Accutane - good advice.

      I took it and it destroyed my acne for good.


      Be aware of the risks. Some men report lasting Erectile Dysfunction after accutane treatment. This is likely due to the effects it has on your liver (which influences testosterone production).

      Also be ready for 6 months of chapped ass lips and skin, along with generally low testosterone, low energy, drive, and a lot of depressed phases.

      [–]trumpmyballs 5 points6 points  (8 children)

      Only follow street fashion if you're a dude trying to pick up other dudes. You want good style? Get some PFGs, Southern brand t-shirt (Coastal Cotton, Southern Fried Cotton, etc..) and some loafers or nikes. Or if it's cold get a t-shirt or Columbia pullover and some jeans and some work boots and the bitches will crawl. Then again I'm from the Deep South born and raised so maybe the girls around here are different but down here if you dress in skinny jeans and some weird ass jacket they gonna think you're gay

      [–]kennytrp[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      I just looked up PFGs and those t-shirt brands. I can guarantee you that wouldn't fly anywhere outside of the South, much less in bigger cities and abroad.

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        [–]trumpmyballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        good luck trying to sack girls wearin this lmao

        [–]Phoenixtorment 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You can't be serious about loafers and nikes.

        [–]NoFapColdShower 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'm from the deep south and he's right. Girls down here want that southern/traditional, fratty, preppy look. You dress hipster/street fashion down here and they'll think you're an immature boy (not a man) who doesn't get invited to any of the cool parties. The plus side to this is that alot of the traditional wear works the professional post-college life. and alot of the southern brands mesh well with the patagonia/columbia tech-prep outdoorsy style that guys with good physiques can rock (even in the big cities and out west) into their late 20s if they pull it off right.

        [–]francisco_DANKonia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        just pick an instagram account with more female followers. that way you know they like it.

        [–]fromthecrypt8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Great post, although I feel regularly bagging 7-8s require you to be somewhat adept at communicating with women. There will always be well dressed guys trying to get in their panties: at a certain level you need more than looks, but you do acknowledge that in your post anyway.

        I can literally feel my confidence increase by a few points when I am dressed really well, and I agree that investing in appearance and wardrobe will do alot.

        [–]SergiuIlescu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Your post could be resumed to "Invest in some physical accessories like bracelets, a nice watch and clean shoes. Also, stay fresh by showering daily, invest in some decent shampoo, some nice brand of perfume, a nail-clipper and some razor blades/electric shaver and maybe whiten your teeth if you've bathed them in coffee and cigarette smoke the past decade. Go to the gym. You don't have to look like Jeff Seid or Big Ramy. Just work out three times a week and eat accordingly." Cheers

        [–]DiggerClam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Look good.. Talk to girls. After awhile, you'll get laid.

        [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        as an old russian saying goes: встречают по одежке, провожают по уму.. or in english it would be something like "you're welcomed by the way you look, but you're seen off by your wits"

        [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorBlacklabellogics 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Game is a means by which you present, market and sell your value proposition, if your value proposition is crap, you will need to be one hell of a salesman to sell it.

        [–]redpillrobby 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        I honestly don't know why I still come here. This must be the 1,000th post on "shower and dress nice" that I've seen on here. The fuck, guys? Is this really the advice you need? Jesus fucking christ.

        [–]RedPill115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        To be fair here, a lot of people grew up with parents with a strongly annoying "It doesn't matter how you look and that's the right and moral thing!" attitude.

        I don't understand the psychology that creates it. Like I said to my dad, I'm going to run a 5k or do a 30 mile bike ride. He's enthusiastic. I say I'm going to eat a little less because I want to lose weight, and I get a bunch of shit and a small amount of "what you're doing is disgusting" attitude. Not that that actually stops him from eating less when he starts to get overweight ("I'm just not hungry right now"). Talk about fashion you'd think I was...I'm not even get into it.

        I don't know that there's a logical explanation for it, it's not necessarily laziness - if you grew up with certain parents it's really hard to get out of your head.

        [–]4skinlicker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        If you can't get laid regularly with 6-8s by maximizing your appearance in the manner stated above, then you probably have autism or suffer from severe social anxiety, because literally all you have to do is act like a normal person and show some interest.

        Ahh yes I either have autism or have SA.

        [–]JoRocKStaR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The #1 best tip you can do to improve your facial skin is to cleanse and moisturize 2x's a day everyday. (Morning and Night)

        1. People will notice and you'll look fresher than ever.

        [–]Andrea-Amilcare 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Here's an example of this simple but effective look


        Now Magic_Fox is pretty much a 10 so he makes everything look good but see how the style also suits a more pedestrian guy.


        The lesson here is get yourself a top 5% body and everything will look great on you.

        [–]Phoenixtorment 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        First pic it looks like he has tiny legs. Second pic his shirt is too loose.

        [–]RedPilledGodEmperor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yep. I consider myself in pretty good shape with a six pack and some muscle and even a simple polo shirt and jeans looks good on me. If you are fat or out of shape, you will look terrible even when wearing a suit.

        [–]reddttt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        A good advice that I've found somewhere in internet is find an actor who resembles you the most and see how he wears stuff.. I've tried that but I decided to go with plain t's, jeans and boots.. Almost everywhere. Rugged style fits well into most ocasions and is very versatile. It looks awesome if you are at least decently in shape. Even more if you can sport a thick beard. No need for fancy haircuts, just buzzcut it btw

        [–]AuroraBootialis 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        I disgree with many parts of this subreddit, but this guy is making some good points. And if you can't handle buying new clothes and fixing your hair, just take a shower and put on some deoderant. You'd be amazed what smelling good can do for a woman.

        -A female

        [–]4skinlicker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I smell like fucking roses and I don't get laid

        [–]ether_reddit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You'd be amazed what smelling good can do for a woman.

        Or even.. just not smelling bad. It's amazing how many guys think that body odour only happens to other people and never to themselves. Or maybe they just don't give a shit? Then why would a woman?

        [–]aanarchist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        tldr, become a woman. start doing your nails, make sure to spend at least 30 minutes a morning on your hair, trim your face pubes so as to be as neat as possible to win her approval. make sure to wear all kinds of shiny baubles too because nothing says masculine dominance like a bracelet, nice perfume and a maybe a nice purse accessory.

        listen to yourself you fucking cuckold, you've just written a guide FOR MEN on how to BECOME A WOMAN.

        here is how you attract a woman: be in touch with your masculine polarity. women who need you to wear a fucking bracelet and wear perfume for them to be attracted to you are not the kind of women worth investing an ounce of time in. this kind of peacocking is exclusively for pump and dumps and women very low on the consciousness pole.

        work out because it's good for you, not because you're thirsty for pussy. dress in fitting clothes because it's a good thing to do for yourself, not because you're thirsty for pussy. take care of your hygiene because it's good to be clean, not because you're thirsty for pussy.

        be a man, choose to become a better version of yourself because you respect and love yourself, not this blue pill idiot's cosmo article to turn you into some transexual metrosexual pussyboy.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        God the posts here have gone to absolute shit if this is getting upvoted.

        No one here thinks women are complex. The entire point of this sub is that women are animals, like men, and that both respond primarily to biological and evolution based traits over anything else

        Clothes mean jack shit if you don't have a decent body to show off.

        [–]jumanj5ever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I'll just wear what I want and if the bitch likes me then she does. Not gonna wear some cunt haircut to bow down to Pussy power

        [–]Shakydrummer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Shit is true. Caring about yourself goes a long way. I'm a musician so I focused more on the rock look, but looked into a lot of the UK fashion to see what's up. Whatever style you're shooting for, analyze it first then build upward.

        [–]1Jaereth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Great post. It's so true this should be square 1.

        [–]ilfj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        "Manipulating woman's brain" even if it works out it wouldn't last longer. Best way is to change yourself amazingly.

        [–]HasCookies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Check out lookastic. I've been collecting looks for over a year now and I archive it in my inbox every time I see something I like.

        [–]Sir_Ganjas_VIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I live in the UK and baggy seems to be on its way back in. Tops anyway.

        [–]KingKoopa1893 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Since we're talking about maximizing appearance. Are there many people that started things like "Nutrisystem" and maintained the weight loss after they stopped eating those meals? Debating trying something like this.

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