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Men's RightsMan flees Canada after losing his kids and $1.2 million home, and being forced to pay $4000 a month to his wife. Is labeled a "deadbeat dad" by the media. (self.TheRedPill)

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Article in question: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012/07/01/deadbeat_dad_flees_to_philippines_leaving_four_kids_without_support.html

Summary:

Canadian man gets divorce raped to the point where he simply cannot afford to pay what he has been ordered to. Instead of spending the rest of his life working as a slave to fund his wife's lifestyle, he flees the country, vowing never to return.

Body:

The couple in question got divorced in 2005. In 2008, their case was settled, with the wife receiving sole custody and child support, along with the home that her husband bought them. Both parties signed a contract stating that this was to be the case.

In 2011, not satisfied by the amount of betabux she had been entitled to, she took him back to trial, stating that she "was rushed and pressured and did not read the documents before she signed them. She said she did not understand she was signing away the right to any future spousal support, even if her circumstances changed."

So the house, the kids, and the child support weren't enough. She wanted more money in the form of spousal support on top of that, so she took him back to court and won. Her ex-husband promptly bailed, resulting in beta-shaming in the form of news articles labeling him as a "deadbeat dad"

This isn't a rare case. In Canada, men are routinely ordered to pay more than they can afford in divorce proceedings, and are faced with jail time if they cannot/refuse to pay. Here is actor Dave Foley's account of the same exact thing happening to him.

Lessons Learned:

Never, ever get married. Especially if you live in Canada.


[–][deleted] 306 points307 points  (108 children)

This is what happens when you push men too far. They simply leave.

[–][deleted] 198 points199 points  (80 children)

I wish more men would do this. Leave the gov't with their stupid fucking bill. Maybe then they'd have fair settlements.

[–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (56 children)

Nah, they'll just tighten the laws to prevent men from doing this in the future.

[–][deleted]  (45 children)

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    [–]pilledwillingly 46 points47 points  (36 children)

    What the fuck. No fly restrictions because you got divorced! ?!

    [–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (32 children)

    Yep. I am friends with a guy whose wife lives in another country. He wants to join her there and they would not allow him to leave the USA without paying the entire child support in advance.

    [–]Azzmo 50 points51 points  (10 children)

    I'm at about a 1.5/10 level of discomfort reading this thread but this post shot me up to 8/10. Is this actually true as stated, or is it a restriction against him getting citizenship in that other country until his child support is paid?

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 26 points27 points  (0 children)

    I can get a passport, as of last month, for the first time since 2001 when the bitch left with my kids. They revoked my military passport as well, took most of my money leaving me homeless on active duty. That cascaded into my security clearance revoked, and a bunch of other shit that made it damn difficult to be in the military. Can't live indoors on $300 a month, and $100 a month in Korea, but at least I had a roof over my head for that year. Didn't have enough to get a beer more than once a month, but food was free in Korea.

    Death is preferable to going through that again.

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children)

    As far as I know he was not allowed to leave the country without paying it. He ended up paying it all. He hasn't left yet, because he still has other paperwork to do first. It never seems to end.

    [–]Azzmo 26 points27 points  (3 children)

    That is absolutely fucking horrifying if that's the case. He was effectively imprisoned for the crime of having a child and then a divorce.

    What happened to the America we thought existed when we were growing up? /rhetorical

    [–]foldpak111 12 points13 points  (2 children)

    If you don't buy 5-7k worth of cameras (gopro, home surveillance, etc.) and stay the fuck away from marriage imma come find you and slap you up

    [–]vicious_armbar 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    In the United States they suspend your passport if you're behind on child support. In Israel they have some law stating that you need to pay in advance I believe.

    [–]Greenspike25 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I too want to know more information about this story.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 20 points21 points  (9 children)

    I can see the dystopian future now: divorced American men illegally fleeing across the Rio Grande into Mexico with US border patrol guards shooting at them from watchtowers.

    [–]paleowannabe 34 points35 points  (4 children)

    And then one of the guards gets divorce raped himself and takes his chances in the run.

    I'd watch that movie.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 19 points20 points  (2 children)

    Excellent.

    And the guard's brother, who is also a guard and knows his divorce situation, has to decide whether to shoot him or not as he makes his run to freedom.

    [–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    And his ex-wife joins the border patrol to stop him when she hears his plan. She is a 10/10 babe who wears skimpy shorts and a low cut shirt. Many scenes of her bending over rails with binoculars to see something from afar. 90% of the beta men on the guard tower are desperate to help her stop her husband from leaving in an attempt to impress her.

    [–]john1443 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    Yep. I am friends with a guy whose wife lives in another country. He wants to join her there and they would not allow him to leave the USA without paying the entire child support in advance.

    There is a 0 chance that I will ever live in the US, seriously.

    [–]jumpingdonkey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    amen brother, im absolutely horrified by all the things going on there.

    [–]occupythekitchen 9 points10 points  (4 children)

    you can cross into Mexico and go from there or canada. Make sure to get a 10 year passport before divorcing or a second citizenship

    [–]antihostile 28 points29 points  (9 children)

    Exactly.

    She implored the Family Responsibility Office to try and stop him from leaving, asking that a lien be put on his house in Grimsby, and to seize his passport, but the FRO did not move on those requests. Mills, a Danish immigrant, has both a Canadian and European passport.

    You can bet the FRO won't make that mistake twice.

    [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 64 points65 points  (8 children)

    "Family responsibility office" what fucking Orwellian nightmare is this... reads just like newspeak.

    [–]beginner_ 12 points13 points  (5 children)

    I find "Brave new world" much scarier as it really fits very, very well to our current situation.

    [–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 12 points13 points  (4 children)

    [–]benczi 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    To be effective, both must be implemented. As we can see it being done today.

    [–]thegr8b8m8 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Honestly taking the redpill is much more than just learning to deal with women. I keep coming to more and more realizations than I could have realized. Im not really sure I am in America some days. Ignorance was bliss but you can never go back. More painful truth and seeing how much that shitbox TV brainwashes the masses.

    [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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      [–]skoobled 33 points34 points  (16 children)

      Bachelor tax is more likely

      Ps. Glad I'm not American

      [–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (14 children)

      We actually do have a bachelor tax right now if you think about it - single individuals don't get the tax breaks that married people do. A standalone additional tax on people who aren't married, without the cloak of disguise it's in now, would simply just not fly.

      [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      The tax breaks married filers get ain't really shit tho. Nowhere near good enough of a reason to get married.

      [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 43 points44 points  (0 children)

      Sort of puts MGTOW into perspective.

      [–]redpillagedotcom 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      I've said it before and I'll say it again - STARVE THE BEAST. I removed myself out of the equation/system a long time ago.

      [–]jaredschaffer27 24 points25 points  (4 children)

      I think men are more capable than women of just packing up their shit and heading to somewhere unknown with nothing and no prospects. I think we can thrive in that situation in a way most women cannot.

      [–]rockymountainoysters 30 points31 points  (2 children)

      We are sexy foreigners when we travel.

      When American women travel, they're just seen as somebody's lost sluts.

      [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

      I'd rather give all my assets to the lawyer than to give anything to my ex

      [–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 30 points31 points  (8 children)

      Leave after having years of time, effort, and money stolen from them. Simply leaving after having your life torn apart is hardly a consolation prize.

      [–]-Petulance 34 points35 points  (1 child)

      Or stay and face being bankrupt, in jail or overdosing.

      I'd take the passport.

      [–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      I'm not saying it isn't the best option. The guy is 100% in the right. That doesn't mean he didn't get fucked raw, though.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      I just finished 14 years of indentured servitude, and I'm rebuilding my life for the 7th time, second major rebuild. Thanks to marriage and divorce laws, I've been homeless for no less than five years of my life. I was military so I couldn't leave without severely cutting down the countries I can live in.

      [–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      I think I read one of your posts a couple days ago. That really sucks, man. I'm glad that I've found this place before considering marriage.

      [–]RedPill808 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I saw this happen first hand. An MD friend of mine, left to live ExPat because house, child support and usury-level alimony were awarded to the ex-wife. There are some countries where they won't take action on US court orders.

      When she filed for divorce, she got an exclusive-use order for he house, barring him from entry and sold every motorcycle, gun, ski gear and anything else of value belonging to him that she could lay her hands on.

      [–]antihostile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      "Capitulate or leave" are the options, as Dave Sim once said. So far it's been capitulation, but maybe we're beginning to smarten up....

      [–][deleted] 418 points419 points  (115 children)

      Can identify with this guy. Same thing happened to me. Got divorced in Florida because wife was sleeping with her 36 year old co-worker (she was 22). She moved out in the middle of the night to some random dude's house and left me with the baby. Didn't hear from her for a few months and then when court date came up to finalize divorce, she contested and the judge gave her my son, 2800 dollars per month (I was only making 3600 per month after taxes), plus I had to pay for medical and life for my son, and she was going to get half my pension if I retired from the company I worked for. Was only married for 2 years.

      Tried my best to be the "good dad" and paid and was early to every visit I got. Eventually, she quit letting me see my son and I took her back to court twice just to get her a good "talking to" by the judge. Yeah, that sure did punish her. After thousands of legal fees, license suspended because I couldn't pay the child support, no visitation with my son, and two nights in jail for failure to pay child support....I said fuck it. I moved across the country because I found out that Florida cannot enforce child support outside the state, change over my DL to my new state, and never looked back.

      Best decision of my life. Sucks that I can't see my son but he will get older and I will see him again.

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 118 points119 points  (9 children)

      Women and the courts appear to view modern-day men as slaves to be used for their labor and entertainment. Put the yoke on, keep 'em working away at the plantation. Beta-shame them as "deadbeats" if they refuse to play along.

      Bull. Fucking. Shit.

      I think you probably did the only thing you really could in that situation. And you know what, that's the real tragedy. There are no safe exits, no recourse, for men anymore. Just get fucked over, or get fucked over even harder. Shameful ... that is the only word for it.

      [–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (7 children)

      Thanks man. Yeah it really was choosing the lesser of two evils. It sucks because I don't mind paying some child support but the system is setup to extract so much from you that it puts you in poverty and then you get hit with the "you're too poor to provide for a suitable living environment". So, you loose visitation until you improve your living situation but during that time, you child support goes up because you no longer have any visitation. Oh wait...deadbeat dad gets a raise at work...time to increase. "Oh but I lost my job or I got a pay cut" Judge - "Well you can make that amount again. We'll just put it on your credit report until you do."

      Fuck being a slave.

      [–]VinylGuy420 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      How is this not obviously an unfair situation?!?! How does the judge not see this?! Was the judge a woman?

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Nope just an old guy that still thinks it is 1920.

      [–][deleted] 139 points140 points  (17 children)

      glad you were able to start a new life. Fuck that bitch

      [–][deleted] 130 points131 points  (16 children)

      Yup. And the real "twilight-zone" was that everyone though I was the shitty parent. I almost got court marshalled at the time because I couldn't perform my duty because she left in the middle of the night and I had no babysitter or family support. I was in the military.

      [–]mryddlin 46 points47 points  (9 children)

      that was clearly done on purpose. fuck damn, sorry mate.

      [–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (8 children)

      Probably. Not only was my ex-wife hott...but she was deviously, smart. I don't hate her because she is just doing what any un-check woman does these days. I did hate her for a long time but since swallowing the RedPill, I can now look back and see how much of a beta pussy I was.

      [–]mryddlin 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      been there, done that, didn't marry though.

      I have to agree with the analysis of past behaviours on my part after swallowing the pill. I can see where I went wrong and how it was my fault.

      Upside is that correcting them has been hugely beneficial to me and I started before coming across TRP. Having a reference manual available has made it so much clearer and saves me from muddling through myself.

      So many things I did right for the wrong reasons...bah :)

      [–]teeelo 19 points20 points  (0 children)

      You know what's even worse to think about?

      The Fem-Nazi's would even take away your ability to share your story or let a subreddit like this exist if they could.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 9 points10 points  (3 children)

      Ex military here also. Nebraska did illegal shit to extort money from me, breaking laws that were US Codes, breaking state laws stating they have to leave me $950 to live on, as if anyone can live on that while active duty. Left me with $300 a month to live on, house was foreclosed, my security clearance revoked, reprimanded for not having money and being forced to attend finance classes. If I had caused it, done something wrong, had been irresponsible, or at fault in any way it wouldn't have been so bad. The military punished me and my chain made it as difficult as possible, even revoking leave so I could get a lawyer and try to fix things. Twice while I was still in, and twice after I got out, those cunts in child support enforcement seized my bank account despite me paying the support. It wasn't enough, they wanted to punish me more.

      I am finally done after 14 years paying her for being a terrible mom, and a lazy piece of shit.

      I was alpha with that bitch, but there's only so much you can do when she is bipolar, physically violent, abusive to the kids, wants to run my life and spend all the money before I make it, and wants to fuck everyone she meets. She "Oops I am pregnant" trapped me as I was booting that bitch. The second one is mine, but the first I don't know. That kid has so many issues it's best to not let her know if I'm not her dad. At this point it doesn't matter anyway. I literally did everything right, except for marrying her, and I was severely punished for what she did.

      I was punished for the second wife's actions too, and I had listened to the bullshit of treat her like an equal partner, trust her, etc. Since being me didn't work with the first, I figured I wasn't nice enough. I learned though, I have six girls I can fuck, but haven't had a girlfriend for over two years. I'm not going to give any bitch the power to take what I am building.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Right!?! The military doesn't give a shit about the people in. They are so bored that anything they can do to fuck you they will. But yeah I feel you. The law says you can't take more than 2/3s of a gross income for child support. But what they don't tell you is that they can take 2/3s for child support but then make you pay half the daycare costs which is not calculated into the support formula. So if you make 100 dollars a week, they can take 66 dollars of that. Then, she can enroll the kid in an expensive daycare say that she pays 1000 dollars a week in daycare costs. So, you are in arrears for 467 dollars. After the order is issued, she unenrolls the kid and has a family member babysit. Essentially getting her another 500 bucks a month and you can't get a court date for two months.

      I KNOW BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME. DO NOT EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER GET MARRIED OR HAVE KIDS WITH THESE WHORES.

      [–]Meglomaniac 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Just a word of advice to people who might be in this situation.

      Go and speak to your supervisor and your CO. Explain your situation. There is lots of military programs around that are capable of helping you. Single father with a baby at home because the wife ran off? Men are human, they will help you. How many of them have wives at home who would watch the baby for a little bit while you get your shit square?

      Dont be afraid to ask for help when you legitimately need it.

      [–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (3 children)

      she's probably tellin gyour son stories about how you were a horrible person

      [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (2 children)

      Probably. Oh well...can't do anything about it.

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      Absolutely she is. It's just par for the course and very unfortunate, but won't be addressed till years down the road. GL sir

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      this is also how the myth that "dads are always the douchebags" gets perpetuated to kids

      [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (2 children)

      Holy hell. That is stuff of nightmares right there. All I can say that the system is seriously fucked. Glad you made it out alive.

      [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

      Thanks man. Yeah these judges really can't do anything. They are mandated to use a formula that is never updated. Essentially, it just leaves you to living off minimum wage income if you are the non-custodial parent. And remember that this is for joint-custody. Meaning that not only do I have to pay her 3/4 of my check but I have to provide for the kid when he is visiting me half of the time. Clothes, food, diapers, etc. So, she only has to provide for half the actual child costs and she get an extra income. Total unrealistic BS.

      [–]rurpe 29 points30 points  (35 children)

      I moved across the country because I found out that Florida cannot enforce child support outside the state, change over my DL to my new state, and never looked back.

      This may have been true in the past but there are federal laws now forcing states to cooperate. You cannot outrun it if you stay in the US.

      [–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (24 children)

      Yeah I agree. I think I have survived this long because she gave up on trying to find me. I moved quite a bit and changed jobs alot due to loving to work for start ups. But who know. Fact is that I am child support/alimony/drama free but at the price of not seeing my son for 18 years. I do snoop on her facebook using a fake profile and steal pictures of him for my wallet and phone. He looks just like me and is already into motorcycles and hot rods. Can't wait to meet him.

      [–]rurpe 16 points17 points  (6 children)

      If she applies for ANY welfare, the state will go after your ass "on her behalf". You just got lucky.

      [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (4 children)

      Agreed. She is married now to the guy she cheated on me with. I have seen her Facebook and when she cheated he was pretty buff and played amateur baseball. Now, he should be around 43 and he has a gut and you can tell that he has given up on life since he got her pregnant.

      Karma is a bitch.

      [–]Greenspike25 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      He broke the golden rule and got married. To a known-cheater. To a known drama-whore.

      Karma will be a real bitch when she initiates her inevitable second divorce.

      [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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        [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        I've posted this a few times before and it bears repeating:

        Follow the money - it's all about the courts getting their piece of the pie.

        Family courts in the USA get federal matching funds for collecting child support payments. If child support payments are missed or reduced, then the family court won't get as much "commission" from the federal government.

        https://archive.is/7eMaW

        Do you see now why States are so rigorous in enforcing child support obligations…while they could care less about enforcing visitation orders? There’s no matching Federal Funds for ensuring Non-Custodial Parent visitation programs!

        This is why so many child support cases are enforced with utter ruthlessness…why a man who is disabled or unemployed through no fault of his own can still be held accountable for his child support ruling and the Family Courts are very resistant to lowering the support obligations…even temporarily. There’s a lot of Federal Matching Funds at stake if men were simply allowed to actually be held responsible to reasonable child support obligations given circumstances regarding his earning abilities.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Makes sense man. Had a high school history teacher who always said that everything that has happened in history was due to either power, money, or sex.

        [–]NevrEndr 5 points6 points  (6 children)

        holy shit. glad got out man and you have a good outlook. once your son turns 18 he can tell her to fuck right off and drive out to see you.

        [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (5 children)

        Thanks man. I have freed one of my friends as well. He lives in California and was paying 3/4 of his check plus half daycare costs. Meaning that he had no income. He was selling weed on the side and living in a house with two other guys. She took him to court and claimed that he didn't have suitable living conditions. CPS came in and said the same thing so he lost all visitation and his child support increased. So, he quit his job and got a serving job. They took all his check and he lived off tips but his child support was going on his credit report. I talked to him and convinced him that he is going to have to walk away and live to fight another day. So, he had an attorney write up an agreement where he gets no visitation and doesn't have to pay child support and all arrears will be cleared. Since she had a new boy toy (aka chad) that she wanted to be the new dad, she gladly signed it and had it notarized.

        My friend has never been happier. We both have a count down in our phone when our sons turn 18.

        Sucks that this is how it is, and I would be lying if I said that I don't feel bad for our sons because we truly want to be there for them. But this system makes it where you can't win.

        [–]Nebulose11 29 points30 points  (3 children)

        Your sons will hate you. I hated my father from the time I was 8 until 30.

        My mother told me some story of why he left, didn't make him out to be a bad guy at all.

        Trying to use this new perspective to figure out if he was fucked out of seeing me or if he is just a loser.

        [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

        I know how you feel. I grew up with a single mom. My mom is a crazy bitch. Don't get me wrong....I love her. But facts are facts. And she hooked up with my dad when he was a drug dealer living in a trailer park doing every damn drug and she acts like she can't believe that he hit her. To this day I don't have contact with my dad. Since swallowing the RedPill and understanding sexual strategy, I have called him and text him but he just doesn't care about developing anything with me. Oh well. Guess that is where I have to be different. When/if my son contacts me, I will get on the first flight out to meet him.

        I would try and get into contact with your dad. You can immediately tell if he is interested in knowing you. If not, oh well. Cut your losses. But if he is excited to know you, then you have a dad. Nothing to loose, man.

        [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        She might have filled his mind with poison, talking shit about you for 18 straight years. He might hate you before he even sets eyes on you.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Can someone explain to me why the fuck you paid $2,800 per month? Child support should mean that you're supporting the child.

        There's no fucking way that a child needs that much to survive. You just know that money is being spent on shit that the woman doesn't actually need.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Right!?! That is what I said. Even the judge was like "well that seems high" but still issued it because all he does is punch in your numbers in a formula. And the formula really doesn't take into count prior obligations other than other child support. I'm telling ya...the system is set up against men.

        [–]panzergling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Waaaait a second...Florida can't enforce child support in other states?

        Edit- nvm I kept reading...

        [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 97 points98 points  (56 children)

        Countries to avoid:

        [–]swedishfalk 13 points14 points  (11 children)

        Sweden would actually be the best place as a father. 6 months mandatory (paid) paternity leave and you will never go to court for spousal support.

        [–]Fedora_Tipper_ 14 points15 points  (6 children)

        Yea but Sweden has been teaching all these "gender equality" issues lately in which only benefit women.

        [–]swedishfalk 26 points27 points  (2 children)

        Possibly, but you will never have a court system allocating spousal support, child support its actually split 50% between parents. And suing a formal partner is almost beyond impossible. So leaving a relationship you will a 100% chance of moving on without "baggage". Which is what the article is about.

        [–]M3_Drifter 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        And it's about to fall apart from the insane number of immigrants they take in.

        [–]Rhunta 49 points50 points  (35 children)

        I think america should also be on the list. IMO trp has convinced me that it is dangerous. I am also black and the police there shoot us easy (source: news)

        [–]mEatBucket 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I feel Sweden is getting some overly unfair bad rep on this sub, the "plowing issue" is just some feminutcases arguing for.

        Why not avoid the US? Both divorcerape and rape hysteria on campuses are basically unheard of in Sweden.

        I'm aware Sweden has issues but a man fleeing the country cause he can't pay child support isn't even possible through law (as in it's not possible to extract that much money from the ex-husband %-wise).

        Rapehysteria in general however....

        [–]CharlieIndiaShitlord 82 points83 points  (10 children)

        What ticks me off about these articles, is that they know that if comments were enabled, they would face considerable discussion going against the grain of the narrative they want to force down peoples throats. They control the narrative by removing any ability to discuss the article at its source.

        It's intentional, and cowardly.

        Had to do the 'good Canadian thing' and write them asking for explanation.

        I see this tactic of suppressing discussion frequently in Canadian media.

        [–]monzzter221 26 points27 points  (0 children)

        Its not just Canada. You see it in all "unbiased news sources" in the anglo-dominated world.

        They know that they can't allow discussion. Discussion neuters their influence.

        But then they all wonder why they have falling revenues. All these papers take heavy losses, news channels inflate their viewers numbers. Its because they have lost their credibility. You and I aren't the only ones that notice shit like this. Most people I've met don't watch or read that shit.

        So these guys try to put a facade of "everyone knows this!!?!" And pretend that they aren't sinking ships, hoping that people still think that they are the voice of the majority

        [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          The best (and really only) way to beat this is to support alternstive media oulets. Oh and PLEASE use donotlink when lnking to this mainnstream (corporatist) garbage.

          [–]CharlieIndiaShitlord 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          I archive all links from mainstream sites, got that habit from KIA. Adblock all the rest and only turn it off for a rare few that deserve it.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          deleted What is this?

          [–]Hayekr 157 points158 points  (11 children)

          "Why would I want this from my deadbeat dad?” the youngster said. “If he really cared, he’d be here.”>

          You can tell the mother has poisoned the children against him. This is an extremely common tactic in any divorce involving children, unfortunately.

          The point is, he does care. He cares about his future well being and ability to not live as a debt slave the rest of his life. The mother created this situation -- not him.

          [–]yaardi 57 points58 points  (2 children)

          I had a LTR with a girl who hated her father because her parents were divorced and her mother has been brainwashing her into hating him since she was little. Then in her early 20s she started seeing him more and realized that he's not a bad guy at all. It's absolutely disgusting how some women are turning the children against their father.

          [–]monzzter221 19 points20 points  (1 child)

          Shit man, my dad did that to me against my mom.

          Its kinda nuts. It wasn't til I was almost 30 that I realized that he is a scumbag and my mom is actually pretty alright. So sort of backwards, but I realize that 95% of the time its the other way around.

          [–]Avedas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Same here, except I noticed around 16 or so. Guess which parent I no longer talk to?

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          [–]imadazhell 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          Parental Alienation is how 10yo's learn words like that.

          [–]OilyB 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          <poisoned the children against him>

          That's not poisoned, the right word is 'psychological incest' by the mother. Something many, many mothers do because of their inability to handle situations like this in an autonomous, mentality mature way. They manipulate the kids to side with them, psychologically fucking them over. Every day.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorVarrian 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Little fucker doesn't realize daddy paid for his cancer treatment, his sister's special care and his older brother's rehab. But fuck him because mom said so.

          [–]sowed5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Just look at the damn picture at the top of the article and you can see how much she's coached the kids.

          [–]1sardinemanR 242 points243 points  (32 children)

          I don't know why more men don't do this.

          I knew one guy that literally laughed at his wife, got on his boat and left, daring her to do something about it.

          [–]SCROTAL-SACK 128 points129 points  (0 children)

          I knew one guy that literally laughed at his wife, got on his boat and left, daring her to do something about it.

          Fucking love that shit. Would buy him a beer any time.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorNiftyDolphin 222 points223 points  (27 children)

          Because they love their children.

          Children: Marriage's little hostages.

          [–][deleted] 149 points150 points  (15 children)

          This is the brutal truth. Younger men dont understand why NEXT isnt an easy option for married men. Its not oneitis, its not fear of finding new pussy, it also isnt the money. Walking out has serious implications for your kids.

          If I Ieave then my kids spend half their time with no adult running the home.

          Point awarded

          [–]kempff 32 points33 points  (1 child)

          If I Ieave then my kids spend half their time with no adult running the home.

          ...and a significant amount of time with a man who has no connection with the children.

          And if something should happen I guarantee it would happen while you aren't there.

          [–]foldpak111 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Statistically speaking, multiple random men. It was pretty pathetic to watch as a youngster. But I'm now in the top 10% as far as finances go, so haha fucku mom

          [–]1OneRedYear 13 points14 points  (7 children)

          I stay in this town for my kid. I don't get to see her a lot but if I left I wouldn't be in her life at all. My career pretty much tanked because I refused to move. Her mother could care less about my sacrifice, she just wants more money from me.

          [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

          Children: Marriage's Life's little hostages.

          Sadly, women aren't above using their children against anyone and everyone around them to manipulate and control people. My own sister uses access to her kids to manipulate our parents constantly, without remorse or even the slightest bit of subtlety or subterfuge. She flat out tells them "if you ever want to see MY kids again..."

          [–]cariboo_j 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Lol Mrs. Lovejoy's favorite refrain: "Won't somebody please think of the children!"

          [–]pilledwillingly 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          I really have to schedule that vasectomy.

          [–]Thursday088 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          This reminds me of something I heard on American Dad once, "Rings catch girls, babies trap men."

          [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

          I knew one guy that literally laughed at his wife, got on his boat and left, daring her to do something about it.

          That is boss as fuck. Good for him.

          [–]Atavisionary 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Ya, I think they should as well. I think the problem is that most men are brainwashed today and believe that rejecting the state's wish to turn them into a slave is immoral. In reality, paying into a system that hates and wants to destroy you is what is immoral. If men were to figure this out, the system would collapse very quickly and all the ingrates would come crawling back.

          [–]1WidmerBeer 63 points64 points  (2 children)

          Dead-beat dad? More like shitty family outside the Down-syndrome kid. And I'm wondering if they beefed up that 'cancer' claim for sympathy too.

          Good for this guy, if the system tries to fuck you, it's always best to give the bird right back to them and forget about it. Social contract to society my ass. They tried to make him a slave. Dead-beat dad... more like modern day Spartacus.

          Also how awesome is that photo, everyone looks all depressed to get sympathy except the down-syndrome daughter trying to hold back a smile. What a champ she is.

          [–]Praecipuus 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Look at the cunty look on that cunt's face. You can tell she's a cunt without even needing any context.

          [–]yummyluckycharms 53 points54 points  (13 children)

          This post should probably be stickied in light of the large number of men that say that post-nups, pre-nups, and divorce settlements are secure once signed. They can be, and often are, routinely disregarded as they are only meant to be used as guide posts for judges to follow.

          And at 4000 a month? Yikes. How much do you think that guy needed to gross a month (remember - he gave her the house)? If he lived frugally, he still would probably need about 6500 to 7000 a month (4000 for the leech, 1500 for rent, 1000 for car, gas, food, hydro, water, etc). Thats 84k net, which means he probably would be needing to make 125k a year based on the tax rate.

          There is no savings, no dating, no going out, etc in that calculation - no wonder why the guy split and run. When one is confronted with a corrupt and unjust system, vote with your feet and leave

          P.S i love how the wife twisted his kids against the father.....

          Eight months since he last heard from his dad, Mills’ son Steven was eager to open a package that had just arrived from the Philippines in advance of his 11th birthday. Steven’s face dropped and tears welled up in his eyes when he saw its contents: dried banana chips, cassava chips, caramel popcorn and salted peanuts. The birthday card accompanying the dry goods said: “Dear Steve, I hope you have a wonderful birthday. Love from Dad.” “Why would I want this from my deadbeat dad?” the youngster said. “If he really cared, he’d be here.

          Impoverished father sends what little he can to ungrateful child that was brainwashed by the mother.

          [–]monzzter221 40 points41 points  (0 children)

          Where do you think he learned the word "deadbeat dad" from, cartoons?

          The fact that he used that term at his age tells you exactly who's teaching him what to say.

          [–]1AmlanceJockey 19 points20 points  (0 children)

          He's a real deadbeat...as they live in the house he paid for. No doubt living off the rental income he also earned. This man worked so goddamned hard that even when he bails he is still providing. Fuck marriage

          [–][deleted] 99 points100 points  (8 children)

          What was the man supposed to do? Become a slave? He lost everything including his future. The dumb cunt got more than 1.2 Million dollars... don't make me laugh by making him into a dead-beat dad.

          [–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (6 children)

          Part of the 1.2m settlement included an apartment that could be rented for $2k/mth. She's effectively guaranteed $2k a month for the rest of her life on top of child support, yet she's still NOT HAPPY. I can't believe this shit.

          [–]recon_johnny 130 points131 points  (3 children)

          She'll never be happy.

          She's a woman.

          [–]sowed5 13 points14 points  (1 child)

          Not to mention the $2500 she gets from the state for the two younger children. That's $4500/month total.

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Plus the child support she was receiving until she drew him back into court for more. So it was actually closer to $6k a month.

          [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          shit like this blows my mind...

          and then when i write about how it's cheaper to (have a surrogate or adopted child, pay an aupair and then daycare) VS have a wife and get divorced, lose custody of your kids, etc. people on here will try to tell me I'm wrong or crazy

          you want a kid? Get it through a surrogate mother. simple as that. You can't lose it in a divorce, it can't become a pawn in your ex-wifes quest for more $, you have control over how you raise it, and you can do a better job because you'll be happier.

          [–]SCROTAL-SACK 43 points44 points  (10 children)

          I really don't know how some of these women survive this stuff. Get out of jail in just 25 years vs a lifetime of servitude... Hmm.. What would I rather..

          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

          I'm aware that you're joking, but tbh there are so many nice countries with bad extradition agreements with the U.S. that running is the only logical option.

          [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (4 children)

          If the dude had the balls or ruthlessness to murder in the first place, he would have never put himself in that position to begin with.

          [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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            [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

            Yep and suddenly during the court proceedings, the ex suddenly and mysteriously dies. Hmm who would be the likely suspect?

            [–]DonRP 41 points42 points  (10 children)

            Lets see what this woman (and court system) considered to be unfair:

            She paid $175,000 for a house worth $1.2m with $600,000 equity in it. The house contained a rental unit which provided approximately $2,000/month. He paid her $2,235/month in child support and she received $2,500 from the government for assistance for her children.

            That's approximately $6735 a month without even working, and she keeps the estate home on a lake. This is all before she decides to sue him for more spousal support and wins.

            What a disgusting, lazy and selfish human being.

            [–]peejerweejer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            It gives all those details then tries to say that her only income is from the gov't assistance what a joke

            [–]yummyluckycharms 6 points7 points  (6 children)

            You're also forgetting the future value of money. Even if they take half of the rental unit income, that's 12k a year. Just investing that for 2 decades, that 12k turns into 50k (assuming 7-8% interest)

            [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Investments? Girls don't invest, girls blow money with no thought beyond right now and that pair of shoes. There are exceptions, but the overwhelming majority of bitches are just like this cunt.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 41 points42 points  (6 children)

            At some point a man is going to get such a raw deal he will hunt down a family court judge, capture and murder him before forcing him to watch the murder of his entire family. Or he will do the same to a lawyer. Or he will just murder his ex-wife that is taking him to the cleaners.

            I will laff.

            Not because I want these things to happen, but because you don't get to choose how someone reacts when you try to enslave them. Slavery is morally abhorrent. When men enslaved Africans en masse, could anyone really be surprised that some slaves killed themselves, some ran away, some poisoned their masters if they could, others killed their overseers in the fields, some formed huge rebellions that seized arms and hunted down whites at random. Some burned down their master's house. Some just didn't work very hard for their masters.

            My point is that the Masters don't get to decide how the slaves will react to their enslavement. Maybe they accept it and go along with it. Maybe they rebel in subtle ways, or maybe they react violently. Slaves have agency and Masters have to invent increasingly harsh systems to maintain their system. This always backfires because slavery is an inefficient system compared to cooperation.

            A few years ago in New Hampshire, USA a man who had been through the family court ringer self-immolated (burned himself to death) in front of the court building. The authorities cleaned it up the very next day. No memorial. No flowers or candles. Like the guy didn't even exist. He killed himself in one of the most horrible ways possible and it was swept under the rug like if a slave hung himself in the corner of the plantation. Don't like your situation, slave? Go to the afterlife, you are nothing. Other men run away from the plantation to avoid alimony, financial slavery. Other men accept prison sentences. Some will go on talk radio and TV shows and complain (Dave Foley). But at some point the system will try to enslave the wrong guy and he will go fucking berserk. I won't shed a tear for any family court judge that gets murdered, or any lawyers that get slain. Or their families, either. You were complicit in the slavery of men, and you don't get to choose how a slave will react to his plight.

            [–]yummyluckycharms 13 points14 points  (0 children)

            I'm surprised they didnt post the self immolation on the website as a warning to other debt slaves that resistance is futile. After all, this article basically slams the dad without even trying to understand his side of the story or to examine if the court ruling was even fair

            [–]Kill_Your_Ego 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Who is funding these misandric slave laws? Promoting them? Funneling money into "feminist" anti-family laws?

            Divorce lawyers. Who are also the judges. It's an insular system.

            More attention needs to be drawn to the thieves using our government, effectively kidnapping children and holding them hostage to child abuse, and stealing men's lives and turning them into slaves.

            Who funded the opposition to the shared parenting initiatives that ran in three states last year? Why it was the fucking bar association. Even though this is "illegal". Illegal? It's only illegal when men with guns show up.

            Funneling their money into the National Organization of Women. Who then ran the typical ads to activate the white knight inside every beta.

            "If women don't get automatic full custody of the kids and always get them even if their smoking meth and blowing random men in front of those kids, and still get full custody, then some woman somewhere will end up staying in an abusive relationship."

            Cue black and white pictures of man beating woman.

            And why did the shared parenting initiative lose? Well 51% of women voted for it. It's the fucking manginas.

            But yes attack the divorce lawyers. They're the ones who are stealing so much money from hard working fathers. And funding the insane laws through the feminists.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            I actually look forward to it. Put into the same situation I wouldn't expect anything less from me.

            [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 8 points9 points  (2 children)

            Honestly, the only reason you don't know my real name due to exactly this, is simply I couldn't afford to travel the 1500 miles and hunt them all down. Then I was sent to Korea for a year and I got used to living on nothing. If I had been in my home state when they took 71% of my gross (68% is legal) and actively prevented me from seeing my kids, I guarantee you would have heard about it. Geography saved many lives. The tactic of leaving the dad completely destitute must be to help prevent it from happening.

            Here I am, 14 years later, rebuilding my life yet again, completely alone doing it all by hand, and I'll burn everything and die before I give away everything I've earned and built to some worthless cunt.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 11 points12 points  (1 child)

            I have read many of your comments on TRP. Each time you write about how hard you got fucked over I put myself in your shoes and silently think to myself that anyone who fucked me that hard (MAN OR WOMAN, because it really isn't about gender) would find themselves getting fed face first into a wood chipper.

            Five years ago a man in Texas flew a plane into an IRS building. The media really whitewashed the story but anyone who actually looked into it found that the man was fucked six ways from Sunday by the IRS. He wrote a suicide note and at the end it said:

            I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well. The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

            Even good men, when pushed to the brink, will surrender their pound of flesh.

            [–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

            Her face says it all. Resting Bitch Face. Sell the house bitch and use that money to raise your kids in an apartment you entitled cunt They don't need a $1.2M dollar home.

            Good for him.

            [–]RealGucciSosa 32 points33 points  (1 child)

            People ask why men are forced to give their ex-SO's through their nose even after its obvious her basic needs have been met. Its not about what she needs or what he has, its about "getting back it him". You could give her a million dollars and she'd sue for the 99million he has left because of spite, and spite alone.

            On top of that children are a "cash crop" to women, they don't care about kids. The whole "women can only love their children unconditionally" dictum is a lie. From tribal warfare to even recently, women would forget their children and "move on" when a conquering force would kill the men and male children of a conquered group. They are programmed to do that. Women can love their child to her own death, or strangle them to its death, if her hamster commands it.

            [–]1AmlanceJockey 13 points14 points  (0 children)

            Well said. Awalt including your own mother. Nay, especially your own mother.

            [–]riding_stoned 24 points25 points  (0 children)

            We need Shariah marriage laws here. No, I'm not being sarcastic.

            A man agrees up front to a dower for his wife. Later, if he initiates divorce, he owes her the dower, and the dower only. If she initiates the divorce, she leaves with nothing. He is responsible for supporting the children, but he also gets custody after age eight.

            This leads to pretty high dowers for beautiful women or women from very good families, but at least as a man you're dealing with a known quantity, not some open-ended financial liability/slavery like in the West.

            [–]MASSIVIST 22 points23 points  (2 children)

            Happened to my dad in 2000, in Alberta. Parents won't stop beating the shit out of eachother so they get divorced. Mom gets everything because. Dad loses everything and has to pay $4000+ a month for support. Dad lives in friends cold basement for four years eating canned food. Of course he can't pay; so they garnish his wages and take his work truck. Threatened him with jail time. Almost killed himself with a hunting rifle. Bitter divorce process lasts for 8 years. ugh.

            Currently have an older cousin who lost a well paying job and a million dollar home in a divorce. Is still struggling about 5 years later to restart his career.

            [–]RP-on-AF1 10 points11 points  (1 child)

            Man, you can't even say "don't get married" when the divorce rape happens with the custody/child support. The only protection is to not have children at all or for sweetie to accidentally fall off a cliff.

            [–]1AmlanceJockey 18 points19 points  (0 children)

            We need vasal gel to get here yesterday.

            [–]Fedora_Tipper_ 23 points24 points  (1 child)

            If approved in California, a guy named Steve Clark is trying to end alimony in the state. I doubt it will make the ballot, but if it does, that will be a huge stepping stone on being on "equal" terms with women.

            [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

            Good, fuck that useless cunt.

            She is sitting on a $600,000 asset more liquid than her dried up pussy and she still can't find a way to pay the bills without stealing someone else's money?

            Again, fuck that useless waste of human being.

            What's hilarious is the closed comment thread. Guess it didn't mirror the reaction they were aiming for.

            [–]monzzter221 44 points45 points  (1 child)

            You know what bugs me the most about this? That a father has to leave his kids.

            People like to pretend like it is cut and dry. "A good man would never do this. A good man would do anything, ANYTHING to care for his children. Love knows no bounds, move heaven and earth..." and all that bullshit. Pretending that people dont have limits, ignoring the truth that this system is what left those kids without a father.

            99% of men love their kids. We love our kids to death. This sort of a decision faced with these options is not an easy one to make. I guarantee you this man cried like a little bitch when he came to the only viable conclusion, the decision he made.

            Its not something most people want to do. Most men do this sort of thing because they have no other choice. The stereotypical trope of the abusive alcoholic dad that goes to get a pack of cigarettes and never comes back is the exception, and they know damn well that this is true.

            [–]Kill_Your_Ego 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Killing my fatherhood was the hardest and longest running part of taking the red pill for me. I had what I can only describe as a psychotic breakdown during this time. The women flocked to it.

            And I'll always have a sweet spot in my memories for that 20 year old massage therapist rubbing my back at night.

            But what else can I do?

            Kill more then just my petty little ego?

            And then just die. No thanks.

            [–]metallica11 20 points21 points  (2 children)

            This is the kind of stuff that drives men to suicide. especially if kids are involved. and we have the audacity to call them "deadbeats". Society today has NO empathy for men in this situation.

            god damnit. I can't stand it.

            [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

            This guy is now my new local hero. Get fucked bitch. Got debt? sell your MULTI MILLION DOLLAR HOME!

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            The 600k mortgage on it, surely that was her decision right? She still has 600k equity in the house after that.

            [–]red-adherent 19 points20 points  (1 child)

            You just know the oldest daughter is riding the carousel as we speak. In fact she will probably become a stripper anyday now.

            His kids will suffer but fuck it, she was one greedy bitch!

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            [–]trpfieldreport 4 points5 points  (2 children)

            I'm not sure if I should be impressed with your outcome, or judge you for doing this a second time.

            I guess ... Bravo?

            [–]jaimewarlock 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            TRP is not just about getting laid. The principles can also be used for a long term relationship. It is up to you to decide what you want out of life.

            [–]trpfieldreport 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            No, I'm with you on that.

            I'm just surprised you could stomach a second marriage after your near divorce-rape experience.

            [–]CaptainGlobal 13 points14 points  (2 children)

            The Star tracked Hans Mills to the Philippines. From his hideaway on the outskirts of Manila, Mills says he knows what he did is wrong. He blames a “broken” Family Court system that pushed him to the brink of ruin for his decision to cut and run.

            Why would he talk to the Canadian press after fleeing the country?

            [–]nofaprecommender 18 points19 points  (1 child)

            To get to the other side?

            Or give his side of the story, maybe? I don't think the Toronto Star is going to send in a special ops team to retrieve him, do you?

            [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

            "So he sold his house, cashed in his pension, paid his bills, and took off."

            Thank the lord, obviously that parasistic wife of his ruined their kids. There is no fixing that situation, it was the best thing he did.

            [–]yummyluckycharms 22 points23 points  (1 child)

            paid his bills

            This little tidbit is enlightening. If this guy was a true jerk off, he would skip out of town without paying any bills.....after all....the creditors wouldnt be able to reach him. And yet, he did pay his bills.

            But.....he's still a deadbeat according to the matriarchy because he refuses to submit.

            [–]RP-on-AF1 10 points11 points  (1 child)

            Wow, just listened to the Joe Rogan / Dave Foley interview. Holy beta bux. She's BPD, he hooked up with her when she was dating his good friend, he was desperate and ended up marrying her, dead bedroom (sex once a year), she had access to his money and would spend it traveling the world for months on end, making him travel to go see his own children....I'm only 9 minutes in and haven't even gotten to the actual divorce rape yet.

            [–]vicious_armbar 12 points13 points  (1 child)

            Apparently his bitch ex-wife never heard the adage: "You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin it only once!" I don't know what is more ridiculous. The fact that she thinks she doesn't have to abide by a legally binding agreement she signed with her lawyer present. Or the fact that the judge agreed with her.

            Oh and the only one of her kids to reach adulthood became a heroin addict years before the dad left! Great job mother of the year! You're given over a million dollars, you have no job, and you just sit on your ass all day. But you can't manage to raise a kid that isn't a hardcore drug addict? If your job was to raise your kids; then you should have been fired a long time ago!

            Here's an idea get off of your lazy ass and get a fucking job like the rest of society! A friend of mine is a single father, doesn't get a cent of child support from his ex, has no college degree, no certificate from a vocational school, makes under $30,000 a year, and one of his three kids [the same number of dependents as this woman] has down syndrome as well as being wheel chair bound. He doesn't live in a mansion, doesn't have a million dollar divorce settlement, and doesn't get $2,000 a month. If he can figure it out you can too! Stop blaming other people, woman up, and take care of your responsibilities! Cunt!

            To all you Red Pillers who were raised by a single mom and told your father was a scumbag: I urge you to reach out to him. Maybe he is a jerk who abandoned you, but maybe he was driven away by your mom. In either case if he is a decent guy try and form a relationship with him. If your mom was right and your dad is an asshole then you should probably question why your mom wanted to have babies with him. And perhaps you should consider being an asshole to women just like your dad was; so you can get more action just like he did. I'm serious.

            [–]ramot1 8 points9 points  (9 children)

            In my state you are entitled to keep $744.00/month, net cash. That's what they left me with too. Eventually the child support came to an end, and for a while I could easily pay the alimony. Now I can't even do that due to health reasons.FML

            [–]1AmlanceJockey 8 points9 points  (4 children)

            Ofcourse if its deemed ok for one person to be able to survive on 744/month the it stands to reason so could another person. but ofcourse there is no balance in this system.

            [–]ramot1 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            My rent at the time was 650. The amount of 744 hasn't been raised in 20 years.

            [–]1AmlanceJockey 8 points9 points  (2 children)

            I think child support should be capped at 30% of what a person who survives on minimum wage makes. Because if its ok for any person to survive on that, than it oughtta be ok for exwives to survive on it to. Enjoy 30% of 14k a year. But, what about the children! if the father can provide a better life than that then give them to the father. Chalimony is just a backdoor wealth transfer to the parasites of society.

            [–]antihostile 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            Any chance you can move to the Phillippines?

            [–]ramot1 9 points10 points  (2 children)

            I was thinking Brazil. I know a couple of other guys went there to escape! I was talking to one of them last month, and he is doing well. As soon as my youngest kid get married, I am gone from freedom country.

            [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Reverse the roles, this would be a bright, cheery article about a liberated womyn fleeing her oppressor and rescuing the kids.

            This is why I've gotten a vasectomy and I'm never getting married/ltr'ed

            [–]The_BeardedGentleman 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Was going to respond with Dave Foley's story. Good on you OP.

            This type of shit really sucks to read, but its like clickbait for me.

            [–]Kite23 9 points10 points  (2 children)

            Haha the quote from the boy at the end. Hey at least he got something, was he expecting money maybe?

            [–]Endorsed ContributorNiftyDolphin 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            He was expecting a shiny, expensive present.

            I don't doubt that his mother has been telling him that his father absconded to the Philippines with mountains of cash.

            [–]Napolean-complex 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            You know that last part in the end where the kid says he wishes his dad wasn't a deadbeat. I bet he has been hearing that kind of shot his whole life from mom. She's been working that kid against him his whole life.

            [–]sowed5 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            $4500/month between the state money and the rent from the attached apartment.

            To be clear, had she received all the child and spousal support, she'd be getting $8272/month ($2500 state support + $2000 from the rented apartment + $2235 child support + $1537 spousal support). Presumably the only tax on any of that would be from the apartment rent. She was gonna barely scrape by with nearly $100k/year?

            The son is cancer free and just needs to be periodically checked, so that's not any greater burden than the older sister.

            She can't work because she has the kids yet she wanted full custody. What the hell.

            She somehow convinced a judge that she was rushed into signing a document containing the details of her divorce. Yeah, they definitely held a gun to her head and she had no idea what she was signing. Women only have agency when it's convenient.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

            Sometimes it's easier to take the ignorant route out of the rage phase. If I ignore the horrible truth, it's not in the forefront of my mind. But I guess I have to power through and stay enraged.

            I just...how does nobody see an injustice with someone who PROVIDED EVERYTHING TO HER being forced to give her EVERYTHING, when it's all HIS shit to begin with? It's fucking insanity.

            [–]RosewoodPill 2 points3 points  (4 children)

            BC The judge was probably a woman who was not using logic, but having her heart strings pulled.

            [–]RosewoodPill 7 points8 points  (1 child)

            You boys need to learn that with women, it's "what have you done for me lately?".

            [–]Yrenq 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            Here's another thought. What if he had got custody of the kids? Downsize the house, using some proceeds to pay of the mother. Then you know, ACTUALLY HAVING A JOB to provide for them as the grew up, would have eliminated any of this bullshit. But woe unto anyone who suggests the logical course if it conflicts with what she-who-is-more-important wants.

            Hell, with a 100k job he could have literally employed their mother as a carer for them.

            [–]strps 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            Meanwhile we will call him a 'refugee.'

            [–]pilledwillingly 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            "Well done Einstein." Love it.

            [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            "was rushed and pressured and did not read the documents before she signed them. She said she did not understand she was signing away the right to any future spousal support, even if her circumstances changed."

            So the state supports a woman's right to change her mind, three years after signing. Yes, three years to decide she'd signed "in a rush". Three years to realise she'd signed in a rush and hadn't read the documents. Unfuckingbelievable.

            Never, ever get married. Especially if you live in Canada.

            Never get married. Got it.

            [–]Criket 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            I know the feeling... There no support anywhere for man. Wasn't allowed to see my two boys and I have to paid 230$ per week, that a third of my paycheck :/ Lost the house and I had to keep the dept made on her credit card. Treated like a criminal. I'm EVIL 'cause I ask her to go find some job (boys both on school) The court seize EVERYTHING I got in exchange of allowing me to see my two son's every weekend, BUT after they didn't allowed me to see them because I didn't having anything to receive them, and laugh at me... :/ Sorry for bad english

            [–]mainst 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            As a side note I would like to add that never inform your soon-to-be ex spouse that you will be leaving the country and she can 'suck it'. This guy got lucky.

            [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            When people ask me why I'm not married, I say "Because I'm not going to pay some BITCH ex-wife to fuck other guys and teach my kids to HATE me."

            Sorted.

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            [–]SCROTAL-SACK 19 points20 points  (8 children)

            so I'm hoping that in the next 10/15 years, the norms change so that people realize that it sucks for everyone, even the woman who gets a shit ton of free money.

            Problem is laws change all the time. You've got older guys now, 20.. 30 years of marriage later getting raped in court because the contract they signed back then is invalid now. You can't guarantee anything. Marriage is dead. You should just let go of that idea imo.

            [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children)

            Marriage died the second divorce became legal thanks to the Church of England.

            [–]skoobled 4 points5 points  (3 children)

            I'm Henry VIII, I AM, I AM!

            I blame anne boleyn

            [–]Nosam88 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            What a piece of shit mother...

            “Financially, emotionally, physically, and spiritually, I am approaching bankruptcy,” Donna Mills said in an email she sent the Star asking for help in locating her ex. “If I go down, the kids go down, and I can’t let that happen.”

            --No your just a weak faggot bitch who needs some fucking work ethic...she deserves to die a slow death.

            [–]savedarticles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            The family picture speaks a thousand words. Look at the wife... yikes, I'd leave the country too. But, the older daughter is definitely plate material.

            It turns the stomach to think the wife looked like the daughter at one point. Some women hit the wall super hard. Shitty personalities literally deteriorate their looks after 25.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Men like me will just shrug. Don't feed the leeches. I rather waste my talents

            [–]foldpak111 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            I was a victim of this. My mother received child support from my "deadbeat" father and I didn't see a dime of it. Funny, I always saw her with the latest phone, car, those lame ass 7 dollar Starbucks coffees, etc.

            The truth is, those kids would have been fucked either way. I won't be surprised if she's beating them at this very moment for interfering with mommy time aka watching American Idol like the little consuming parasite she is.

            Thank god I don't have to deal with that bitch anymore. After all I went through, she's lucky I don't plan some elaborate 10 years in the making scheme to frame her for a serious crime (and I could do it).

            [–]My-Name-Is-No-One 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            vomit

            For so many reasons...

            [–]thegr8b8m8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            The picture of her pissed off bitchy look in that photo is priceless. Really feel bad for the kids. Im sure they will be pissed at him as well. Maybe one day one of them will take the pill and realize the state in cahoots with the ungrateful wife share the most blame. Sad really.

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