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Meta100,000 (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Modredpillschoolx2

I decided to sit down with a glass of wine this evening and reflect on the past two years, and our experiences here on the red pill. While most sub-reddits are lighthearted and fun in nature, this one takes a more serious tone and purpose, and the implications of our conclusions are far reaching and scare real mainstream establishments.

It’s incredible that what we’re doing - just looking for and sharing information - is so dangerous and damaging to the status quo, that we actually ruffle feathers. When I took over TRP with under a thousand subscribers, I expected to be ignored, perhaps made fun of a bit. But I did not expect what we have experienced- mainstream attention in a campaign against us of fear, shame, and censorship.

Maybe I’m a bit drunk, but at 100,000 users I think it’s fair to excuse me as I raise my glass and share some of my emotions with you guys because, fuck, this has been the most incredible ride of my life. Not only have I found a group of likeminded individuals, but we have helped others find belonging as well. And that’s something that our culture has severely lacked- belonging for men: A place for men to be among peers and friends, comrades, people to connect with. Some have been luckier than others. I counted myself among the unlucky until now.

I think it’s important to take a moment to reflect on the improvements we’ve made as people – as men – because sometimes with the small increments it’s difficult to really realize where we might have been five years ago (or even two years ago). I find myself worrying about very small details today that are the subtlest of nuances of game that I would never have even understood or believed a few years back. Today I look at these hurdles as mountains, but they are mere street curbs compared to the real mountain of improvement that stood before me when I began my journey.

And, excuse me for being sentimental, but you’ve all been there doing the same with me. It really strikes me as the most incredible experience to know that we’ve reached out and touched the lives of other men, knowing that their lives may be improving because they found us. Knowing that we are improving people’s lives, despite the chagrin of the established culture, really fucking hits me deep. I haven’t cried in over a decade, but I might shed a damn tear tonight because it’s beautiful what we’ve accomplished.

I want to share a little about myself before the red pill started, and before I discovered the manosphere in general. I was just out of a relationship where I honestly wondered to myself what the point of continuing was. I wondered what three years meant if it could be thrown away in days. I was ego invested in this relationship, it was my identity.

I suspect (and I’m sure there are some blue pillers who will have a hay-day with this) that the people who have found their way here were smarter than average, but severely mislead. I say that because I truly believe it takes an uncommon level of intelligence to really look inside and realize that the source of a problem may lie within. It’s something that I consider daily, and I wonder if most people I’ve met will ever consider it even once in their lives. People tend to spend a huge amount of mental cycles avoiding such a question.

My experience was being logical and analytical. I wanted things to make sense, but I found myself alienated. Not only by women and romantic interests, but also by friends and family. Wondering why it was that a strict adherence to logic and rationality would lead to such rifts in my relationships, I began to wonder if perhaps I was destined to live the rest of my life alone. I felt alone, like there was nothing in this life for me. I did things the right way, the way they were supposed to be done, and I was not rewarded like I expected. Instead I discovered that everybody around me was stupid. They were dumb. They did not follow the rules. Why the hell were they so intent on following nonsense such as emotions? Why didn’t they control their reactions to things? Why were they lead astray by lies and misconceptions? And why was I unsuccessful at negotiating their desires?

I wouldn’t realize for years to come what I was witnessing could be explained by an economist. You have to follow the money. In this case, the money was self-interest. I eventually discovered that people will follow exactly what they’ve been evolutionarily driven to do. And sometimes that means that no matter how many promises you or they make, no matter how much sense commitments and honor makes to try- people will follow what makes them happy. (And worthy of note, most people don’t know what it is that makes them happy, so they follow the short term happiness, even to the detriment of long term happiness.)

It’s an eye-opening experience to realize that rather than being the smartest person in the room, I was likely the most duped idiot there. Expecting a system of laws that were never enforced, I actually had the gull to get self righteous and pissed when nobody abided by it. How fucking fruitless that effort would be.

I think my story is not unique. I think that we’re here because of a similar past.

There’s an interesting group called purplepilldebate, and I want to speak about that for a minute.

A common topic that they focus on is that the conclusions that we arrive at should be common knowledge and that few people should ever be as mislead as we were.

I really do wonder how it is that I was lead so far astray, I really don’t know. It’s hard to think of myself as a thinking, breathing individual then, when I now realize how wrong my conclusions were then. Clearly I am smart enough today to come to better conclusions. The raw materials were there waiting to be molded into the person I would become. But, nevertheless, there I was among the stupid. The people purplepilldebate refuses to accept exists: the feminine-conditioned men who did not know how to be men.

But we do exist. And we’re here. And we’re improving.

This is what the opposition will do when they find themselves outreasoned. They will adopt your premises and act as though they were there with you all along, and that you’re nuts for thinking otherwise. It’s just your misdirected conclusion that they disagree with. But they agreed with everything else all along!

That’s one hella bunch of gaslighting in my opinion.

There are a few comments I want to make about purplepilldebate, and our community, as we continue past 100,000 subscribers and into the future.

Purplepilldebate might be an interesting read, and certainly a great place for outrage porn if you’re an addict. But the fact is, one thing that they focus on is a way to tone down red pill discussion to give it more mass appeal. They want to normalize red pill ideas.

One common trope I hear there is “the red pill doesn’t have the monopoly on the advice, work out, dress well, and improve your personality.”

The point they’re trying to make is that you can take this very simple advice and probably improve your standing, so there’s no real reason to buy into the “hate-group” of the red pill. You can be just as successful, really, this advice has always been around! Everybody knows it! We’ve always advocated these things!

This is an interesting thing they’re doing. They’re buying the advice because there’s no real logical argument against its effectiveness. It really does work. Women like swole, fit, confident guys. But there’s method to the normalization and tempering tactic. They aren’t just well-meaning folks who want you to avoid the hate-trap of TRP. They want to make sure you never fall into the understanding behind why these things work.

Originally the campaign against men included denying that stoicism and fitness were effective with women. They tried to convince a generation of boys that what women really wanted was a dude who shared his feelings and was able to cry on her shoulder. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS WHAT SOCIETY TAUGHT BOYS. That the purple pill tries to deny it now, telling us that “get fit and confident” has always been a no-brainer is disingenuous. Anybody watching a late 80’s or 90’s movie can disprove this entirely. This has not been the truth.

They want to co-opt the inarguable parts of our argument to continue the campaign against what really scares them: understanding and truth about female sexual strategy.

There are some well-reasoned red pillers on the purple pill subreddit who tend to cave to these pressures nevertheless, and I see them now taking a foothold on our main subreddit. I have decided to make a comment on it, and explain our moderating position regarding them moving forward:

The fact is this: our edge is our advantage. There is no point to trying to normalize with political correctness. It is a fool’s errand.

There are enough people trying to make peace with the public narrative saying that red pill advice is good enough if only there wasn’t so much anger or hate. If only we could just be more … what’s the term? Socially acceptable?

This is what the moderates are looking for- they want us to tone it down. Why can’t we preach good dating advice and drop the anger and hatred?

In fact, even members here who I do not recognize as long-standing members comment on how there’s so much anger and how it used to be good but gosh there’s so much darn hatred and anger now.

The fact is, our edge- our political incorrectness- is the only thing keeping us what we are: a community for like-minded men. Once we adopt a politically correct frame (which is what purple pill is attempting, and what our concern trolls are advocating), we have abandoned our advantage of being a male space that is open to like-minded individuals who can discuss what matters to men.

I think a lot of people reading this might be wondering- why is it that dropping some of the anger and speech that is deemed “hatred” could be bad? Wouldn’t it help to communicate our message better if it were easier to stomach?

When we adopt a more politically correct format, something very important is taking place: we are tempering our speech to satisfy the feminine imperative; that is to say: we are modifying ourselves to please women- to gain female approval. And as our subject matter happens to be one that women tend not to approve of, you can only imagine the effect that might have on our subject matter if we were to temper ourselves to appease them.

We will not be bending to appease women, the feminine imperative, or popular culture. This has always been the case, and always will be.

So as a comment to a recent influx of statements regarding the “anger stage” or new members ruining things because they’re undereducated or angry- I say this: We embrace the anger, we embrace the new people, we embrace the unwanted, the unsightly, the incorrect.

I need’nt state that at one point every member here was new, and many had dumb questions or some anger to work out. We’ve all been there.

So as of this point forward, our moderation team will not look kindly to anybody being disparaging towards the fact that new people might exist, that we have an “influx” of new people clogging things up with their new questions and feelings.

I liken it to going to the gym. After a good set, my muscles tend to ache. It’s sometimes frustrating and difficult to do normal tasks when my muscles hurt, or I can’t fully extend my arms. But the one thing I know is this: The pain indicates gain. We cannot get gain without pain. And fuck any of you righteous motherfuckers who think they’re not responsible to help educate and assist new members. If you’ve gained any insight or help from TRP at all, you owe it to new members to help them with the same.

Likewise my message to new comers is not to flood us with inane posts or bullshit. If you think you have a beginner question, it’s because it is, and we don’t need to hear it. Check our sidebar, and read for another month. Check /r/asktrp. Do what what you can to teach yourself before joining in conversation.

Anyhow, I’ve really enjoyed the past two years, and it’s incredible that we’ve reached 100,000 subscribers. I can’t wait to see what the next two years bring, and to see how many new ideas, insights and understandings we uncover. As always we will continue to embrace the edge and make this a place for exclusively male communication and comradery.

Welcome new subscribers, and congrats to existing users. This is a huge milestone and I can say honestly that I could not have gotten where I am today without all of you. I hope that what we’ve been able to do here has helped you as well.

I’m proud to call you my brothers.

RPS


[–][deleted] 368 points369 points  (25 children)

I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders.

We've got a lot of work to do.

If videogames taught me one thing, it's that if you keep running into ennemies, you're going into the right direction

[–]Flight-Control 57 points58 points  (0 children)

If videogames taught me one thing, it's that if you keep running into enemies, you're going into the right direction

I fucking love this!

Also.. this sub gave me new insights and looking back at my past relationships with this new found knowledge I cringe a bit.. My outlook on things and general attitude really changed for the better. thanks bros!

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

A modern take on the old: If your getting flack from both directions it means you are over the target.

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Don't bunt. Aim out of the ball park. Aim for the company of immortals. - David Ogilvy

[–]1User-31f64a4e 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I'll see your quote

If videogames taught me one thing, it's that if you keep running into enemies, you're going into the right direction

and raise you a Ghandi quote:

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

TRP, MGTOW and MRM are all going through this progression. The mainstream media, by and large, is moving from the ignore you stage to the laugh at you stage. Keep moving forward, my brothers!

EDIT: Oh yeah. Thank you, OP! Thanks for you hard work, steady hand, devotion and excellence.

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    [–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (15 children)

    Squats actually. Mainly squats.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

    Listen.. I love how much I hate squat day as much as the next beast, but what of deads? Deads get no respect. I can't think of anything that puts me in touch with my alpha caveman more than pulling some heavy ass weight .

    [–]1Halfjor 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    Deadlifts are easily my favorite exercise. Nothing is more barbarian than picking heavy shit up and setting it back down.

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      [–]ChadThundercockII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Preach the good word, brother.

      [–]BluerThanBalls 134 points135 points  (22 children)

      At this milestone, there's no better time to thank the Red-Pill detractors: 2XHamsters, The Blue Pill, SRS and the rest.

      Their widespread broadcasts expressing their hatred towards our sub have allowed us the exposure and growth to reach this number of members.

      The irony is beautiful, that those most vocal in opposing our movement are also our biggest recruiters. The controversy and 'outrage' the Internet's feminists seem compelled to blog about is what sparks a TRP newcomer's initial interest, and it is through these channels that a large number of us heard about, and were consequentially drawn to TRP.

      Ludicrous and false ideas aren't met with the same opposition as uncomfortable truths. If you try telling people something ridiculous, such as 'the moon is made of marshmallow'. They will laugh and maybe set you straight, before moving on with their lives. They won't go online and make post after post trying desperately to discredit or ridicule you. Nor will they dedicate communities to opposing your movement. No-one will care that you claim the Earth is being orbited by a giant floating ball of candy. They won't care because it's unequivocally false, even if technically it's something which challenges their most basic of world-views. But if you start stating unsavory facts such as explaining how men and women are inherently different, or teaching men to understand that women will behave according to their evolutionary programming, then that's when the 'outrage' starts to appear.

      Those who hate our group the most are the ones that are most aware of the truth in our teachings. Likewise their audience realizes on some level that people don't vehemently oppose movements that are blatantly false, and as such they are less inclined to be dismissive of TRP.

      The more hatred The Red Pill receives, the more credibility it gains and the more people turn up at our door, eager to learn. This is why we shouldn't embrace the concept of appeasement and diluting Red Pill theory to make it more palatable. The more 'feels' are hurt and the more the 'outrage' spreads the more the Red Pill grows.

      If those who opposed us really wanted to slow the growth of our movement, they'd stay quiet and stop helping spread our message. But of course, these aren't logical beings we're dealing with, these are people looking to receive validation for whining, and to be reassured by others that their world view is still cosy and safe.

      Congratulations on reaching 100k subs, I'm looking forward to being a part of this movement as it continues to grow. I'd also like to thank those who oppose us for helping make this possible. You are our very own Red Pill Recruiters.

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        [–]1DRMMR76 44 points45 points  (13 children)

        There is another slightly different motivation.

        Women are disgusted by false-Alphas. Even more than an overt obvious Beta. To a woman, nothing is more disgusting than a man who appeared to be worthy of genetic donorship, but who turned out to only be acting that way, and thus none of the qualities she was attracted to were actually genetic. Women want true Alphas. They want the guy who is tall, strong, fit, healthy, and confident because he has superior genes. Genes which she can acquire for her offspring by mating with him. When a man appears to have all of these things, but only has them because he has learned how to appear that way, she feels betrayed. She feels robbed of the one thing that she knows is most precious and finite for her: time. Her narrow window of sexual maturity and attraction is her biggest and for many, only, chip she has to play in the mating game. The years she wastes on a mate who appeared to be superior but was actually genetically inferior are years she will never get back.

        This is why the entire feminist "just be yourself" mantra is a population-wide shit test. The men who fall for it and turn themselves into timid docile Betas out themselves as such and thus fail. The men who continue to be be strong, confident, fit, capable men despite this out themselves as true Alphas in the eyes of a woman, and thus pass.

        "Just be yourself" is probably the most self-serving piece of advice a female can ever give a male. She wants you to bare every aspect of what makes you you to her, so she can judge you as worthy or unworthy, and cast you aside if you don't make the cut. That is the essential impetus behind all shit testing. Coercing a man into outing himself as a Beta so she can cast him aside. "Just be yourself" is designed to accomplish that goal in one simple sentence.

        TRP exists to challenge all of that. We say "Just be yourself...but change yourself into something awesome first. Then be that". To a woman, that is the ultimate insult. The ultimate lie. Making up for [what they feel is] inferior genetics through training, understanding, and improving. To a woman, an Alpha man whom she knows is that way because of TRP is like a fake iPhone made in China. Seems great, looks great, might even work great...but it's a fake.

        [–]insaneyoshi 27 points28 points  (1 child)

        "Just be yourself" is probably the most self-serving piece of advice a female can ever give a male. She wants you to bare every aspect of what makes you you to her, so she can judge you as worthy or unworthy, and cast you aside if you don't make the cut. That is the essential impetus behind all shit testing. Coercing a man into outing himself as a Beta so she can cast him aside. "Just be yourself" is designed to accomplish that goal in one simple sentence.

        This is a great way to sum up the social-level shit test we have all been fed before "disconnecting". Just wanted to add that, as has been discussed here before, self-actualizing and improvement are seen by women in the same light as this perceived lie of being a "fake alpha". In other words, you might become awesome, but making it known that you haven't always been "this awesome" might be detrimental to your perceived value to a woman.

        I believe Law 30 is relevant ("Make Your Accomplishments Seem Effortless") when dealing with women, else you might be thrown in the faux-alpha bunch.

        [–]FromSuburbia 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        Lets be honest, Law 30 is always relevant. In my opinion, making your achievements seem effortless is one of the most alpha things you can do. It gives you power over not only the people who admire said achievements, but over yourself by forcing you to remember that one goal leads to the next.

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          [–]Misogynist-bydefault 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          With a LTR they can make up for lower smv by being useful. Nothing is worse then a 10 with no fucking ability to do anything. If i wanted to have another child i would have one with a different women.

          [–]Kharn0 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Well said. I was once discussing my women troubles with some female friends back in my blue days and they responded "Just be yourself and she'll like you for you" I replied with "and if my true self isn't good enough?" they responded "then she isn't right for you" "so all I have to do is play videogames at home, get fat and where pjs everywhere and some woman will find and love me?" "well, I, uh wouldn't say that..." "because a woman that wants that from me isn't one that I want"

          [–]BluerThanBalls 8 points9 points  (1 child)

          I definitely agree with your analysis about male TRP detractors. It's a mixture of denial and apathy, and as you said most people are incredibly lazy- the fact that 50% of our population is overweight is testament to this.

          In terms of the women who hate TRP, while there are some who don't want to lose bargaining power within the sexual marketplace, the majority don't have that level of self-awareness.

          Most of the women who hate this movement have a limited understanding of our principles. A large number either assume we're an anti-women group or simply join the hate-brigade because they see others around them doing the same. The loudest speakers are the ones who do actually understand what we teach. These are, as you said, the people who feel threatened by The Red Pill truths and it's this that prompts them into throwing their shit-fits all over Reddit.

          [–]rpscrote 15 points16 points  (0 children)

          As a lifelong libertarian and autonomous man, I've always despised SJWs and feminists. I found TRP because of the shrieking SJWs. I remember thinking to myself: If the SJWs think its wrong, it's most likely right.

          The Red Pill has closed the circle and finally allowed me to take my perspective politically more deeply into my own personal life.

          [–]ThumoticJonFrost25 272 points273 points  (76 children)

          I had low expectations for r/TRP.

          I thought it would be overrun by the dorks that make up 99% of Reddit users within a few months. As someone who's been writing a "Red Pill" blog since 2010, I was happy to see someone take a shot at building a subreddit, but it seemed like an exercise in futility.

          Most people won't realize how good a job RedPillSchool has done here. Online communities are incredibly fragile, and it would have been so easy for this subreddit to become useless. The fact that it has grown to 100k members, and more importantly, that it has done so while refusing to seek a compromise with political correctness - is a miracle.

          There will always be people who will try to drag you away from the pursuit of pure, unadulterated truth for the sake of itself. "Bro, why stress about politics and ideas? Lift weights, get money, get girls... etc."

          Keep resisting those people. They're not your enemies, but they are simpler, and they are content with a smaller life. They're welcome to it, but if they want to engage with TRP, they must elevate themselves to it.

          There will always be tone police. They are not your enemies either, but they lack the historical understanding of the political left, and how to effectively wage ideological warfare. Resist them too - if they truly understood the core of TRP, they would understand that no compromise is possible.

          There will also be people who are destructive because they are - contra the above points - excessively negative and navel-gazing. There is a golden mean between acknowledging harsh truths and wallowing in self-defeatism.

          Ultimately there are no hard and fast rules of what this community is, and how it should be. That's what makes RedPillSchool's accomplishment here so impressive. I'm pretty certain that with almost anyone else at the helm, the community would be garbage.

          One hundred thousand TRP subscribers is one hundred thousand lives on a better path. That's more positive impact than the vast majority of people will ever have in their entire lives. Congratulations, /u/RedPillSchool, and thanks for building this community.

          [–]Modredpillschool[S] 87 points88 points  (2 children)

          Thanks for the kind words, Jon. Means a lot.

          I've updated your flair, don't know why it wasn't done sooner.

          [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

          Thank you for everything you did. And hopefully will keep on doing. Cheers.

          [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 39 points40 points  (67 children)

          ...and more importantly, that it has done so while refusing to seek a compromise with political correctness - is a miracle.

          It hasn't been easy considering how many leftists/SJWs there are moderating other subs stirring up shit for us, plus some admins being leftists/SJWs themselves.

          [–]Knight-of-Black 7 points8 points  (44 children)

          I am too curious as to why liberals and SJWs are associated together?

          It is possible for one to be liberal, vote liberal, and be a Red Piller too, no?

          Or atleast, what is this issue i am failing to see?

          [–]frequentlywrong 33 points34 points  (33 children)

          I am too curious as to why liberals and SJWs are associated together?

          SJW are always liberals.

          [–]joeyjojosharknado 24 points25 points  (23 children)

          It's the extremes, left or right, that are the problems, as always. Both are in denial of different realities.

          Extreme right deny evolution and other scientific realities that conflict with their beliefs. Extreme left deny social realities such as the behavioural differences between men and women.

          I'm a scientist, and firmly believe in accepting reality as it is, not what I want it to be, and that's why TRP is attractive to me. I'm also left-leaning.

          [–]SirNemesis 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Well, the extreme right denies evolution altogether, but the extreme left (and even to an extent the mainstream left) also denies evolution above the neck.

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            [–]CockBruises 10 points11 points  (4 children)

            Religious conservatism is patriarchal. Find me a patriarch in that subreddit and I'll eat my hat.

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              [–]CockBruises 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              You mean because they believe in a sky deity?

              [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 11 points12 points  (5 children)

              Leftists don't always equal liberals. WE are often thought of being conservative, but I would also say we're liberal in that we buck the status quo in our thinking. It's a lot like status in that it's dependent on the situation. When I talk of leftists though I'm usually referring to statists and/or socialist types.

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                [–]Smekiz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Unfortunately, yes.

                [–]SgtBrutalisk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                "Chtulhu always swims to the left" aka. Academia keeps moving what is normal to the left.

                [–]Newdist2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                WE are often thought of being conservative, but I would also say we're liberal in that we buck the status quo in our thinking.

                In the west, the status quo is liberal.

                [–]newmewuser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Labels like 'liberal' or 'conservative' are just too simplistic for me. The only think that matters is to have a mental model of the world as closer as the real thing as possible.

                [–]CrazyNickName -1 points0 points  (21 children)

                But, I'm fairly left-wing, and that doesn't make me an SJW or any of that other weird shit, it's my educated assessment of how the world would be best managed economically and ecologically.

                I know the kind of self-obsessed liberal douche you're probably referring to, but using "leftist" as an insult is a bit much.

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                  [–]ch4os1337 10 points11 points  (14 children)

                  I've been leaning right ever since I realised the right was far more accepting of hard truths. Being as accurate as possible is what's important to me and the left gets so much support by appealing to emotion.

                  [–]YourShadowScholar 8 points9 points  (13 children)

                  The right is the party that denies global climate change and advocate for abstinence as the best form of birth control, while trying to outlaw abortion and pretend human beings don't have sex drives, right?...

                  I'm pretty staunchly Libertarian myself, but it seems a bit funny to hear the right characterized as the party that is accepting of hard truths.

                  [–]R4F1 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                  The term "right" wing (just like "liberalism") has lost all meaning.

                  In the US, the right generally refers to the Neocon movement which dominates the Republican Party. Neoconservatism was founded during the Cold War, when certain Democratic Party politicians/thinkers were disenfranchised with JFK when he refused to tackle the USSR head on and ante up the US' foreign-policy against communism. They left the DNC and joined the GOP. This is why every modern US war (WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam) were initiated by Democratic presidents, but after the Neoconservative movement took ahold of the GOP, the wars thereon were initiated by Republican presidents (Iraq 1 & 2, Afghanistan). In Europe, the right has historically been associated with ultra-nationalist movements like Fascism and National-Socialism, which also were founded by individuals who were previously from socialist parties and unions.

                  Personally, I lean libertarian (right-libertarianism to be exact). Most so-called "right wingers" to me are just extensions of the left. There is no difference, both want war, both want to control people's lives and income. I find it deplorable.

                  However, you're comments regarding climate change, sex education, and abortion are very generalized, and I see no point to it. Whether someone believes in climate change or not, is a non factor to me. I don't see what the point is for the State to be peddling one idea over the other. That's for individuals and enterprises to make their own decisions, and accept their respective consequences. The same with sex, and sex education (or lack thereof). As for abortion, that's a more complicated matter, which is why there is difference of opinion even among libertarians. One position is that the "fetus" is a foreign or parasitic entity and that the individual (mother) has right of say over her body. The other position is that a fetus or baby is a human life, and therefore falls under the Non-Aggression Principle (as followed by libertarians), and an abortion would be an example of "aggression" (initiation of force) against it.

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                    [–]Tom_Brett 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                    Libertarian has the spirit of a right leaning individual. I mean Ron And Rand Paul have won CPAC 5 times. It'd be cool if TRP endorsed Rand Paul or had a poll or something.

                    This place is mostly libertarian right? No sidebar info from what I see.

                    [–]1Halfjor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I've been pretty hard right my entire life, parents influence and all.

                    I think the nature of the red pill is innately pretty right leaning. Nothing I've learned here has made my right leaning orientation change. If anything it's strengthened many of my beliefs.

                    [–]R4F1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Red Pill ideology focuses on self-improvement, whereas your economic outlook (leftism) focuses on pressuring or forcing change in external actors and factors. Red Pill is an inward philosophy, Leftism (or statism in general) is an outwards philosophy.

                    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                    Yeh, a lot of confusion over left/right because it's really more two-axis. You believe in more left-wing centrally planned economics I presume, I believe in less central planning, and ancaps and econ-libertarians believe in significantly less / almost none/ none/.

                    SJWs can only ever be left wing because they need a really authoritarian central government to enforce their idea of social justice. However, it's absolutely possible to be left wing and ignore social justice bullcrap but it would likely require a rethink of old marxist ideas and kicking out a lot of already totalitarian leftists who plague the left and make it unsightly - not easy by any means - but still workable.

                    Things are different depending on where you are as well. I'm from the UK voting UKIP and people here see them as right wing (despite wanting to re-nationalize the post-office and trains and spend more money on the NHS ). But compared to the Republican / Tea Party in the US almost all our parties are apparently left of center.

                    [–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 12 points13 points  (3 children)

                    r/MGTOW -- still missing from TRP's sidebar.

                    [–]1ubiety 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                    /r/MGTOW has slight infiltration by the political correct left (for example, reddit's FA community still plugged into PC behavior). Those individuals view TRP as dangerous at worse, and pointless at best. Personally, I embrace MGTOW as a sexual strategy, see a lot of cross over with TRP, and would like the link referenced in the side bar - whether /r/MGTOW wants that link depends on the moderators and community members.

                    [–]1Halfjor 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                    I respect the idea of MGTOW, but the subreddit for it seems to be a bit off track. Too much talking about feminism, crazy women, etc.

                    It should just be about men. If you are going your own way then you shouldn't have to keep justifying it or discussing why you are doing it with examples of female wrongdoings.

                    [–]HermesHermeneus 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                    This and the OP are great.

                    I'm new to this entire community, and though I had worked through many of these truths on my own, it's awesome to see so many people discussing them openly. Most of all, I've been impressed by the unapologetic zero-fucks-given attitude towards the whiners who dominate our culture.

                    Thanks for creating this, I hope to add to it going forward.

                    [–]JovianTrainWreck 46 points47 points  (1 child)

                    I AM STILL ALIVE because of you motherfuckers. One day I will have a great success story to share, and that will be the closest I could ever come to a sufficient way to thank you for it.

                    [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    /r/thanktrp

                    Not every story of thanks has to be epic story of banging 200 chicks in 200 days or something. Just picking yourself up and getting on with life is thanks worthy too.

                    [–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 13 points14 points  (4 children)

                    Well done. It's been my honor to be a part of this sub.

                    [–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                    Thanks, Rollo!

                    [–]trpadawan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Your writings have been some of the most influential work I've had the pleasure of reading. I know you've been thanked thousands of times for what you do here, but allow me to join the chorus - I would not be who I am now without the effort you've put in to this community. Really, sincerely, thank you for what you do.

                    [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                    One common trope I hear there is “the red pill doesn’t have the monopoly on the advice, work out, dress well, and improve your personality.”

                    The point they’re trying to make is that you can take this very simple advice and probably improve your standing, so there’s no real reason to buy into the “hate-group” of the red pill....Originally the campaign against men included denying that stoicism and fitness were effective with women. They tried to convince a generation of boys that what women really wanted was a dude who shared his feelings and was able to cry on her shoulder... That the purple pill tries to deny it now, telling us that “get fit and confident” has always been a no-brainer is disingenuous.

                    They want to co-opt the inarguable parts of our argument to continue the campaign against what really scares them: understanding and truth about female sexual strategy.

                    There are some well-reasoned red pillers on the purple pill subreddit who tend to cave to these pressures nevertheless, and I see them now taking a foothold on our main subreddit.

                    I'll tell you what PPD's next line will be:

                    "We never said TRP was scary womanhaters, it's just rambunctious locker-room talk. But, could you tone it down a little, boys? It's kind of out of hand."

                    When a bitch can't shame you into compliance, her next tactic is to pretend to be your friend for just long enough to get what she wants.

                    Too bad for them we don't have an attention span limited to that of a goldfish.

                    [–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                    They're idiots - but it's amusing to run circles around them sometimes. Essentially, TRP is defined (in their minds) as "those things I disagree with" and so yes, as they're convinced of more and more truths, they'll continue to narrow their definition of TRP.

                    I quite enjoy people like /u/gaylubeoil because he is intentionally provocative and never fails to bunch their panties. But then, so many of them know nothing of TRP except for posts like his, specifically selected to offend them, and then they wander unaware into PPD or the like, and they encounter me, and I make so much sense -to their heads just explode

                    [–]Redpillc0re 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Women love groupthink. They are never committed enough to give credence to their words, hence the use of "we" whenever they want to express a personal opinion. Their tactic is to shut down independent voices pretending it's for "the good of the group". Women are the biggest abusers of democracy, which they perceive as the totalitarian state of groupthink (when the groupthink is not to their favour, they despise democracy and meritocracy, as is what happens in high-ranking science or technology).

                    The key is to quelch this thought-police before it becomes big. I 'm afraid it's already getting out of hand with all the "trigger-warning" labeling that i observe all around the media.

                    [–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 78 points79 points  (2 children)

                    God bless TRP. For 16 months, this has killed the Internet for me. I don't have to waste time scanning bullshit when I'm stuck on the computer. I can always turn to TRP and encounter something real.

                    7 plates spun and dropped. 1 9mo LTR. Nexted for disrespect. IDGAF about any of that. I'm not attached to those experiences. I am improving. That's what counts. And I can't be bullshited any more. I recognize the blue pill lies. And when I've slipped intof BP for even a single action, I see the reaction. RP is truth.

                    [–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (1 child)

                    TRP got me out of an internet addiction. I can't stand spending time on any other subreddits unless completely academic in nature.

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                    [–]madgreed 13 points14 points  (14 children)

                    It's actually incredibly interesting to me how something that is plainly observable everywhere is generally rejected or met with denial by a huge segment of the population.

                    You see this in a couple other sociological and cultural behaviors, not just TRP stuff.

                    [–]rpscrote 6 points7 points  (13 children)

                    out of curiosity -- what are those other behaviors?

                    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

                    Religion, the idea that everyone must buy an overpriced house that'll require decades of savings, get married and have kids. All of the these have huge negative life altering consequences and generally turn the person into a slave to some degree.

                    [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    But they all keep people purchasing things.

                    [–]madgreed 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                    Religion, various things surrounding race (i.e. race is a social construct until you're a doctor who has to recommend a medication or screen for certain diseases you're socially constructed to be at higher risk for), most things surrounding government and what politicians say compared to what they do.

                    The effect single motherhood has on a childs likelihood of becoming criminal or having learning/emotional disabilities.

                    All kinds of thing people actively reject despite massive sample size data dictating otherwise.

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    The race being a social construct is always funny to me. Because how can they call anyone a racist if they believe it's just a social construct?

                    I also love when they (SJWs) want white men to feel bad for the actions of white men in history, but if I should feel bad for those actions, can I not feel good for the good shit white men have done for the world?

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                      [–]TRP VanguardCyralea 47 points48 points  (1 child)

                      Of all my life experiences, none have shaped my life in such a positive way as this place has. It's amazing that a tiny corner of the internet with nothing but words on it can lift a man so high.

                      There's no way you could have known it, but by cultivating the culture of TRP you (and by extension, other TRP'ers) have done more for the well-being of men than a lot of your peers. Fuck, if that isn't something to be proud of I don't know what is.

                      Cheers dude. And thanks.

                      [–]TheRedWaves 46 points47 points  (4 children)

                      Hear hear. I've been on TRP for the last 8 months. Never posted, just created this account.

                      This place is phenomenal, a real eye opener. It's a huge work on oneself, but it's worth it. I'm still progressing (as most of us, hell maybe as all of us) but I'm definitly seeing some major changes in my interactions with people (not only women).

                      Reaching 100,000 subscribers will probably attract a bit of people here. As usual, there will be a lot of hate. But for those who may be genuinely curious, and will read this : I urge you to think for yourself, dont listen to the noise, and look around. Dont post, just read the sidebar, read the top posts, and compare what you read to your life and your interaction with others. Then come back, read some more, and experiment.

                      But dont scratch the surface. TRP is not only about going to the gym, alpha/betas, SMV and whatnot. It's a true self-improvement lifestyle as a whole. It's pure knowledge, and it's really, really empowering.

                      Cheers and thanks to the mods and endorsed contributors for making this place a reality.

                      [–]madgreed 16 points17 points  (2 children)

                      I'm still progressing (as most of us, hell maybe as all of us)

                      If you're not improving you are deteriorating. There is no stasis.

                      [–]Golden_Nutsack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      You never stop learning and improving yourself, theres no single moment you will be perfectly content all of a sudden.

                      [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (6 children)

                      One important thing I took from this is that the purple pill is dangerous; more seductive than the red pill with its social implications of alienation, and more effective than the sniveling servitude of the blue pill, but an incomplete truth. A half truth that leads to the kitchen, but gets you a pop tart rather than a steak.

                      [–]usul1628 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                      The purple pill is full "ignore the man behind the curtain". Lift, dress well, be confident, etc, are vital but let's not talk about the fundamental reasons why they are vital.

                      [–]I_HaveAHat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      I argued with a mod of the purple pill about TRP once. One of his problems he had with TRP was there was no discussion allowed on TRP. I said that was stupid because people go to TRP to talk about TRP concepts, not to argue if TRP is right or wrong. Its like going to a church during mass and saying god isint real. The people in church have already accepted gods existence and dont want to prove it to every dickhead that walks in. And then ironically he banned me for the same problem he had with TRP, no discussion allowed.

                      [–]zephyrprime 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                      I don't think purplepill is a big deal at all. They hardly have any subscribers. Look at their front page and the oldest post is old as heck.

                      [–]rpscrote 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                      purplepill can be found in formerly redpill writers softening the message to sell more, e.g. Mark Manson. Dude knows what he's talking about, but has feminized the advice enough that you see girls sharing his articles on social media. I don't blame him, and he does have a good perspective if you can distill the main message out of the politically correct watered down version.

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                      [–]Modredpillschool[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

                      Thanks for not letting what happened to the seduction subreddit happen here.

                      You're welcome! And yes, that has been our main driving factor- avoid that demise!

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                      [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                      Me too. I've remarked several times about how close I was to driving my car over a bridge. Now I don't even consider it.

                      [–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (1 child)

                      I only have two things in this world.

                      My word, and my balls.

                      And I don't break em for anybody.

                      Let's take the world back Brothers.

                      [–]RompeChocha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      My favorite line: "I always tell the truth, even when I lie."

                      [–]thecollegeplayer.netBostonsboy306 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                      I get a kick out of the fact that we started after all those other subs (SRS, 2XC, etc.) then thoroughly raped them in subscriber growth.

                      I still remember the day we passed r/feminism at ~29k subs. Couldn't have been more than a year ago.

                      I don't post much here anymore, but I still read often. This place is my roots. It's where I got the inspiration to start my own blog. And I give credit where credit is due.

                      Here's to the next 100k boys

                      [–]GREF_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                      then thoroughly raped them in subscriber growth.

                      FUCK. I laughed so hard at that. We raped the feminist subreddits.

                      [–]RedPillProphet 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                      2XC

                      They have 2.2M subs but that's bcz its a default sub and a way for all women to feel special.

                      Pretty incredible that /r/Feminism is less than half our size though.

                      [–]2rp_valiant 26 points27 points  (4 children)

                      I think the anger and outrage at the feminine-driven mainstream advice helps us in a subtler way too - by being outcast as "hateful misogynists", we turn inwards and form tighter bonds as a community. When members are exiled from a tribe for farcical reasons, they bond together into a new tribe formed around the ideals that they were rejected for and become an opposing group. In the next few years I can see the manosphere growing into a serious social player, disrupting the mainstream advice with our superior understanding of the dating and mating dynamic.

                      I'm already hearing blue pill dialogue being hijacked by vocal RP-like opinions here in the UK and if the trend continues we could see real disruption in the web of lies that have been built up around women in the last 6 decades.

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                        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                        misogynist = rejecting the feminine imperative in favour of your own

                        [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

                        Today the SJWs weep

                        [–]NSA_web_spider 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        I am relatively new here. I bear no ill will toward blue or purple pillers - I don't want to bang as many women as I can, and I am ok with LTR's and want them to work - Which means that I have to admit the reality that I see around me exists, and live within it. And that's what TRP represents.

                        It's a simple way to look at the world and stop being confused about how to deal with each of the genders. It's what is happening, and cuts through the universal shit test that is modern society. It is a test, and not everyone is supposed to pass it.

                        The red pill is that moment in Fight club where the big guy trying to join the group is told to leave the doorstep of the house, and turns to go. Ed Norton's character comes up to him and tells him that you are supposed to stay, that it's all part of the test to take the abuse and keep going in order to prove yourself. That's the red pill for me. It made all the contradictory messages into a single narrative.

                        No one outside of here is going to tell you that it's ok to be an alpha. Not unless they are selling you something. I've been sex need shamed all my life, despite it being a need tied to my happiness. In fact I have been happiness shamed all my life as well. I've fought depression over it. I've not turned to help when I have needed it.

                        I finally got some help and a community that will help me to accept that who I really am is not only acceptable, but preferable than the guy that I let the world turn me into. I have acted like an alpha, and not acted like an alpha, and the woman that I am with at the time has always preferred the alpha. And I have always preferred to be that guy.

                        And deep down it is what I am. And I will not fucking pretend otherwise anymore.

                        [–]1KissTheBridesmaid 26 points27 points  (7 children)

                        For anyone to imply that RedPill observations and advice are and have always been mainstream is simply bullshit. We would not be growing this fast if this was the case. TRP would not have changed our lives this much if it was the case. And most of all, I look around me at a generation of men who are helpless against the manipulations of women and unable to properly manage relationships because they have been handed a fork to eat soup with.

                        The hate we get is not because we express anger. It is because we have uncovered truths that can shift power away from the feminine imperative. If the women and white-knights who criticize us really took a moment to look around themselves, they would realize that the feminine imperative has ironically landed women in a situation that is making them miserable as well. In the real world, TRP is positive for men and women.

                        Thanks for the great job you mods are doing and yes, let’s not loose our edge. We are not here to make sure people don’t get offended. We are here to talk about truth, and in the current excess of political correctness, truth can’t help but be offensive.

                        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                        It's unreal how different I've become after 2+ years of theredpill; I think the main impact its had is not even girls really, but mainly social competence. Just standing your ground and being firm but polite makes a huge difference in how you are perceived and in the outcomes you get in life.

                        Being much more aware of feminism, traditional values and the current climate of political correctness has also had a hand in constructing my worldview and my opinions on a wide range of subjects.

                        I still have a long way to go, but I've come so far.

                        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 3 points4 points  (5 children)

                        I'm not sure TRP is positive for women.

                        It is uncovering the lies in our society. The observation that "true love" really means "how much he loves me and will tolerate my bullshit and support me".

                        This is 100 000 men (plus the viewers without accounts) who will no longer believe "I am sick of being fucked by losers and now want to settle down in my post wall years for a sexle... I mean true love relationship!".

                        [–]usul1628 11 points12 points  (4 children)

                        A guy exposed to TRP will make and keep the women around him happier because he understands them. Even if the motivation is selfish, it's better for both sides than what exists now.

                        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        I was recently diagnosed with Severe Clinical Depression and I am now seeing a CBT therapist on a regular basis.

                        TRP has been helping more to fend off my Depression and better my Life than therapy and all the self help books that I have read in the past.

                        TRP to me it's not about picking up women, but it's a way of life, and since I am a man, a way of life is also sexual strategy, a strategy where the focus is me, and not anyone else.

                        While I have been lurking for a very long time, this post hit home, and hit home big especially the part where it says:

                        Originally the campaign against men included denying that stoicism and fitness were effective with women. They tried to convince a generation of boys that what women really wanted was a dude who shared his feelings and was able to cry on her shoulder. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS WHAT SOCIETY TAUGHT BOYS. That the purple pill tries to deny it now, telling us that “get fit and confident” has always been a no-brainer is disingenuous. Anybody watching a late 80’s or 90’s movie can disprove this entirely. This has not been the truth.

                        That is me: I was raised, educated, and self taught to be the Master of Blue Pill. I was the best of the best at Blue Pill.

                        I did things the right way, the way they were supposed to be done, and I was not rewarded like I expected.

                        And I got fucked!

                        I don't follow 100% of TRP blindly and that is not the only resource and tool in my recovery from Depression or in Life, if I followed TRP 100% blindly and as my only source I would be treating it like a cult, and a cult it's not. If anything TRP is the anti-cult, TRP tells everyone to look at reality for what it is, and trying to un-learn the bullshit we have all brainwashed with and that is not part of our unconscious nature; but the two, our beliefs and reality are in constant stark contrast; if it was just once it could be considered a fluke, twice a glitch in the Matrix, but the issue is that those fantasies and reality are in constant disagreement, as they should be, they are fantasies after all. Beam me up Scotty has great entertainment value, but that's all it is, till then I have to walk or drive or Uber where I want to go. And I know where I want to go, and I now know how to get there.

                        [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                        This is what the moderates are looking for- they want us to tone it down. Why can’t we preach good dating advice and drop the anger and hatred?

                        The anger phase of trp is a motivating factor for the change you need to make. Eventually your realize that the real problem is you and that you aren't the victim here but instead you're just an idiot for listening to shitty advice from women who want to see you subdued or controlled. So if any of you see someone new with a lot of anger help guide instead of shame him for it.

                        Thanks for the post RPS and thanks for keeping this dark corner of the internet open for people like me.

                        [–]GREF_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I embrace the anger, let the hate flow!

                        [–]flexiblehold 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        The fact is, our edge- our political incorrectness- is the only thing keeping us what we are: a community for like-minded men. Once we adopt a politically correct frame (which is what purple pill is attempting, and what our concern trolls are advocating), we have abandoned our advantage of being a male space that is open to like-minded individuals who can discuss what matters to men.

                        Political correctness is just another word for feminine/feminized speech, it is overly sensitive (if not passive-aggressive), vague, tepid and indecisive, lacking the boldness and conviction of masculine speech. Men are not afraid to offend, and can handle with stoicism the discomfort his words might give others.

                        A "cheers" and a "here here" for your notion that the Red Pill sub should remain politically incorrect!

                        [–]neveragoodtime 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        Beautiful, meaningful, insightful post, brother. Two years ago I thought I was a smart guy, a masters and a degree in science, the my wife of 10 years files for divorce and I learned that I was the most naive idiot out there. People looked at me and they didn't even see a person. They saw a tool that may or may not be useful. And if I had no use, I was discarded as carelessly as a broken saw blade. So yes, I was angry, I had every right to be angry at a society that told me to be naive and expect everything to work out. I was following a set of rules, only to find out no one else even bothered to read the damned thing. That's why I think your insight is right, we were smart idiots. Smart because we diligently studied and turned in our homework when no one else did, idiots because no one was grading it, and the test would be how much the teacher liked us.

                        No one should be upset or offended at the anger we find here. We don't have to encourage it, but we do need to support its development into understanding. Don't bottle that up, use it as fuel to drive progress. Everyone deserves that. To take the purplepill stance that all you need to do is dress better is ludicrous. You will be the same fem conditioned nice guy pushover in a better suit. And you will get the same shitty results you always have. The anger reminds us that we don't have to be nice guys, that we don't have to play by other people's rules. Anyone who truly hates women wouldn't be on here trying to better understand them. And if the advice wasn't affective women wouldn't give a shit because it would screen out the misogynists. What scares them the most is that it works. Being a jerk works. And now the smart nice guy future betas in waiting are starting to figure that out, and adjust their own strategy accordingly. We are smart, we can change, and we can be successful.

                        [–]94redstealth 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                        I agree with you 100%. The barber shop of yesterday, the poker game and any other gathering of men is not politically correct or devoid of hate. We as men hate on each other on a daily basis. We are trying to break each other down, just busting balls or trying to educate.

                        In this modern world, men need a place to vent, share, complain, ponder and learn without the fear of persecution from society. The Red Pill is that place.

                        [–]Ridoon 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                        100K that's amazing. This sub is changing my life, I can't say thanks enough.

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                        [–]waynebradysworld 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        Isn't it crazy the recurring themes you see in movies when watching them through an rp lens?

                        Go watch jerry Maguire when you get a chance. If you have seen it pre rp, it will not even be the same movie the second time around

                        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        All my adult life I've felt like a caveman (not the GEICO kind), an outcast in a feminized, overly sensitive, blue pill world. The few months I've been on this sub have felt like home.

                        I'm also continually impressed by the consistent quality of the posts on this sub.

                        Keep it up!

                        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I say this: We embrace the anger, we embrace the new people, we embrace the unwanted, the unsightly, the incorrect.

                        Doesn't seems like much, but after being told all my life I am not enough, this stroke a cord.

                        Thanks for your awesome RPS, all the mods and all the people that make this sub possible.

                        [–]PlebDestroyer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Anger phase is just that -- a phase. And it is important. If you missed it, you are doing it wrong.

                        [–]gdrcigar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Well said man. I liken your speech to the idea that you don't see atheists catering their message to appease the religious imperative. Being politically correct is how you AVOID making a difference.

                        [–]throwwhatthere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        Just felt this would be a good time to say thanks. I found trp back when it was around 10k subscribers, and never imagined it would grow this big. You all helped me to save my life when I needed it most. This is the value of a male space, and why we cannot afford to temper it!

                        Thanks RedPillSchool, GayLubeOil, Illimitable Man, et al

                        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                        When we adopt a more politically correct format, something very important is taking place: we are tempering our speech to satisfy the feminine imperative; that is to say: we are modifying ourselves to please women- to gain female approval. And as our subject matter happens to be one that women tend not to approve of, you can only imagine the effect that might have on our subject matter if we were to temper ourselves to appease them.

                        I just got an ah-ha moment: changing yourself to please the feminine doesn't necessarily mean changing yourself to please women directly, personally. If you change yourself to please politically correct feminine or feminist ideas that guys who run society or media helped spread you are still appeasing to the feminine, or in other words, supressing your masculinity without any personal interaction or direct contact with women.

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                        [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        When it says Deleted it means a mod is hard at work getting rid of mostly concern trolls and bluepill feminists who don't know the way to Purplepilldebate.

                        [–]HeinousFu_kery 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                        Perfect.

                        Women have often told me that men should be "more sensitive", more "sharing" and should "evolve". (Into what?)

                        At that point I tell them that women are socialized to be normative in a group ("We're all equal here, right?"), then compete for status - usually by "stabbing each other in the back instead of coming at them head-on" ¹. Men are socialized to explicitly strive for status and will, in time, find groups and friends while doing so ².

                        At that point, the discussion goes back to complaints about men not being "Evolved" and how they should be behaving more like women. That men should step down and "be just like us" - conforming to the socialization that women consider normal.

                        The answer: "So, what you're saying is that you want men to 'evolve' into transvestites?"

                        The reactions are priceless.

                        Remember this argument the next time you get hectored for being yourself.


                        ¹ This from my wife (believe it or not), who made her way in corporate before moving on to academia.

                        ² Deborah Tannen's "You Just Don't Understand - Men and Women in Conversation" has a great, readable background section on this. Most of her stuff is pretty self-help-ish, but this (her first book) has a good background/scientific literature development and draws on her research background.

                        [–]alpha_n3rd 9 points10 points  (3 children)

                        They tried to convince a generation of boys that what women really wanted was a dude who shared his feelings and was able to cry on her shoulder. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS WHAT SOCIETY TAUGHT BOYS

                        I used to brag to girls about how I was in touch with my feminine side. What a fucking retard...

                        [–]1StinkyDiaper 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        I'm guessing that line got you laid quite a bit, huh? =P

                        I only laugh because I was once that dumb fag, too.

                        [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I feel you. I used to proudly tout to women I was a feminist (and I was one).

                        [–]bonekeeper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        How did that work out for you? Did they ask you go watch Twilight with them?

                        Welcome home brother.

                        [–]1edwardhwhite 8 points9 points  (9 children)

                        My only issue with the anger posts is that there are so many of them. Drowns everything out and most of them are blue pill mad and think they can change women and make them "accountable." These posts crowd out a lot.

                        [–]Modredpillschool[S] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

                        We have been working to remove all but the best quality posts so that won't be a problem.

                        [–]1edwardhwhite 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        Excellent. The advice here is amazing.

                        [–]DorianAnderson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        And you all have been doing a superb job. I've seen a noticeable improvement in overall quality from a few months ago to now.

                        Thanks mods. Mad respect.

                        Sidenote: I am excited to see where this will go. It's plain to see that this knowledge will not stop spreading.

                        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                        If men are angry, it is for good reason. We need to hear more about it. We want to hear why. There is no shame in it. If women feeeeeeeeeel scared by male anger, they need to stop making us angry. We are as we are. And we shall not be tamed any longer.

                        Mostly it is men who were duped by women and society, and then shat upon from a great height when it suited those same women and society. (Make no mistake - society as both women and men will enforce your so-called obligations towards a woman and/or children to absolve themselves of having to do it).

                        We need to hear the anger. These are the stories that make change happen. The anger is rational and justified. The fear of this anger is also justified - and let this also drive change. The cause of the anger needs to be addressed.

                        I will hear of no more complaints that woman causes man to be angry, and that it is the man's fault for being angry. No. This needs to stop. Woman causes man to be angry, man is angry, and the anger is good. Don't like it? Scared? Don't like the consquences? Good. Don't cause it.

                        More Anger Please.

                        [–]1edwardhwhite 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                        I'm out of the anger phase and it clogs the subreddit. I already know why. Its my fault for believing that shit in the first place.

                        [–]jsbieber2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        First post on this subreddit. I have read everything on here for the past several months. The sidebar first and then the valid posts by quality members thereafter. It's nice to be out of the matrix. I applaud and thank you and the rest of the mods and valuable contributors. To your opening statement and to this entire piece I salute you with one of my favorite quotes: "In veno veritas". Well stated my brother... I am also proud to be a part of this community. It's an honor to be counted among men of the highest quality. Let us not forget da Vinci's statement and in my opinion the biggest theme of red pill philosophy: “One can have no smaller or greater mastery than mastery of oneself.”

                        [–]ChooseWisely72 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        "I suspect...that the people who have found their way here were smarter than average, but severely mislead."

                        This statement proves how insightful and correct you are. This is exactly my situation and it is because of this sub-reddit that I'm past my anger stage and am able to study objectively. I am still a student of TheRedPill and I can't wait to get to class every single day.

                        [–]1ubiety 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Hey /u/redpillschool , thank you for moderating this subreddit - it really has help change my perspective on life for the better, contrary to what PC popular culture wants everyone to think. The ideas expressed in here are actually productive, helpful and self motivating, and it's been a great year and a half following TRP and contributing my own content along the way. Keep up the good work!

                        [–]1aguy01 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Honestly, after a year and a half here, I can say that in retrospect, finding this sub was the most significant event of my entire life.

                        [–]ECoast_Man 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        great post.

                        its funny - I really enjoy purplepill just for debating shit (I'm a debate-whore) but i write with as much vitriol there as here, and often get "PC'ed" or "tone police" or "concern trolled" even from self-proclaimed pillmen. Fuck all that.

                        This sub has provided me with the forum to just call shit as it is. I can't fucking say anything I say here in real life, under pain of SJW stoning that pervades all aspects of life.

                        [–]DarkestRoad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I remember starting out here because there was a certain something that wasn't right. Reading a lot of the info here while going from mil to civ and seeing things for what the are has changed me in many ways this whole year...and I wouldn't have it any other way.

                        TRP's not just a game-and-tactics haunt and it certainly isn't some hive mind--it's full of jerks that are quick to tell you "You done goofed" and they're more than happy to explain how to go about it.

                        That is, if you want to know in the first place.

                        Thanks for holding strong and keeping the truth stronger, fellas!

                        [–]NickCiufi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        And fuck any of you righteous motherfuckers who think they’re not responsible to help educate and assist new members. If you’ve gained any insight or help from TRP at all, you owe it to new members to help them with the same.

                        Couldn't have said it any better myself. In all walks of life (and not just TRP), many, many people have been patient with us as we develop and grow. We must provide the patience that those before us had to those in front of us.

                        [–]darthsmokey 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                        It feels like it was only yesterday that i came across this subreddit, and Had my first Field experience after swallowing the pill. Looking back at it it is the best thing that happen it my life.

                        The one misconception i realized amongst those who oppose TRP is that its a " Women bashing group". But the reality is that it is not. Especially for me. TRP for me is about improving myself, focusing on my self, take all those wasted energy i used to pursue skirts on putting it on my own improvement. TRP is not about chasing women, its about improving yourself, and be a better man.

                        I just want to thank the mods, the experienced RP who post and comment useful advices, and most of all the married RP who post their experience being married and how to have a RP relationship.

                        And for those who recently joined, let me share this with you my golden number 1 rule i made after my first field trip "Value Yourself more than the one you trying to get on with".

                        Thanks everyone, for waking me up.

                        [–]1StinkyDiaper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Many of us here love being around women, and enjoy the company of them. It's just that we no longer tolerate a single drop of their shit, and let it be known that they have no control over us.

                        [–]Endorsed ContributorRed_August 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        "In this life-long fight, to be waged by every one of us singlehanded against a host of foes, the last requisite for a good fight, the last proof and test of our courage and manfulness, must be loyalty to truth — the most rare and difficult of all human qualities. For such loyalty, as it grows in perfection, asks ever more and more of us, and sets before us a standard of manliness always rising higher and higher."

                        • Thomas Hughes

                        Happy milestone, TRP

                        [–]NeoreactionSafe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        "And sometimes that means that no matter how many promises you or they make, no matter how much sense commitments and honor makes to try- people will follow what makes them happy. (And worthy of note, most people don’t know what it is that makes them happy, so they follow the short term happiness, even to the detriment of long term happiness.)"


                        I have been attempting to get across this point in various posts with little success.


                        Men are the Artists.

                        We DEFINE how we experience situations by how we Frame ourselves.

                        What we find Beautiful and pleasing, those things that bring about a sense of "Happiness" for a male are not provided by the Matrix. In fact, if we accept the Matrix ideals we will be entirely miserable Slaves.

                        Red Pill is deep stuff. It's changing your perceptions. It's becoming the Master rather than the Slave.

                        [–]PedroIsWatching 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        This community is the only internet group that has had an actual positive influence on me in real life.

                        I'd still be a sniveling little bitch that lifts for shit if I hadn't stumbled here two years ago. So thanks for that.

                        [–]TW_RPAwake 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                        THANK YOU for the hard work of taking TRP this far! I found this forum the day I decided to plan my escape. My plans were to cash in my chips and move to the Philippines. I would find some cheap place with a great view and an internet connection so I could develop software remotely. After some sampling, I would settle down with a woman who would treat me right.

                        During my internet searches exploring the viability of this prospect, I stumbled across a few derogatory articles about "The Red Pill" as it pertains to butt-hurt chauvinists who get off on treating women like shit. After the 3rd or 4th reference to this Matrix metaphor I started searching on the term. The rest, as they say, is history.

                        I lurked, I scoffed, I read more, I got angry, I denied, I watched around me, I listened more, I lurked some more...

                        THEN I TOOK ACTION IN MY OWN LIFE.

                        TRP changed the kind of father I am to my children. It changed the kind of husband I am to my wife. It changed the kind of employee I am to my employer.

                        Most of all, it helped me realize that I own the direction of my ship. If my ship crashes on the rocks, I can blame the damage on the tides, shores, or the hull. OR, I can blame the damage on how I captained my ship.

                        For the record, my wife is happier, my kids are happier, and my career velocity improved.

                        Congratulations on the 100k milestone. May the unplugging continue!!!

                        [–]1StinkyDiaper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Damn right. Taking responsibility for your actions makes all the difference in the world!

                        [–]1Ronin11A 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        After a good set, my muscles tend to ache. It’s sometimes frustrating and difficult to do normal tasks when my muscles hurt, or I can’t fully extend my arms. But the one thing I know is this: The pain indicates gain. We cannot get gain without pain.

                        Mark Manson had a similar point in one of his website essays: "Call me crazy, but I believe that changing and improving your life requires destroying a part of yourself and replacing it with a newer, better part of yourself. It is therefore, by definition, a painful process full of resistance and anxiety. You can’t grow muscle without challenging it with greater weight. You can’t build emotional resilience without forging through hardship and loss. And you can’t build a better mind without challenging your own beliefs and assumptions."

                        This is why so many can't handle the Red Pill; they can't challenge their own beliefs and assumptions, as it's too uncomfortable to do so.

                        [–]PracticallyAlpha 1 point2 points  (7 children)

                        it takes an uncommon level of intelligence to really look inside and realize that the source of a problem may lie within.

                        Thank you RPS. Thank you for teaching thousands of men the wisdom their fathers failed to. Thank you for guiding us down a road that society refuses to admit exists. You're doing a righteous thing here, and it must require saintly patience to moderate this boisterous group of boys and men. On behalf of the thousands of new members, thank you for being the unwavering foundation this community needs.

                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        TRP is the family I never had.

                        [–]Codex_Dev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Congrats!!! This sub has revealed so many things to me. Most of which were harsh and bitter truths, but as I continue my journey in life I am grateful.

                        [–]ol_durrrty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        I was lost and now I am found. I cannot thank the mods, endorsed contributors, and community enough for opening my blind eyes. I have a mission and I'm gradually take control of every aspect of my life and subtly spreading the RP way to my friends and brothers.

                        I love this subreddit because we are able to easily find like-minded individuals here. In the real world it takes a vetting process, with the concepts and theories I have learned here on TRP it has not only strengthened my bond with my close friends, but also has shown me what to look for in my mentors. Those successful people with the drive, no bullshit, demanding attitude that used to drive me away now pulls me in. I seek to learn how they made their success, emulate and integrate what works for me.

                        [–]BPtoRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        However much balanced most of us are, we NEED the anger and the hatred of other TRP-ers here. Keeps us vigilant and balances the infinite stimuli out there of the other extreme: feminism and alpha-shaming shits.

                        [–]TheBloodIsRed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        You all are super critical and unapologetic when responding to posts and that's why I keep coming back. Keep up the good work all of you. Let's put our 2014 selves to shame and improve every way we can now.

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                        [–]tedcase 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                        Awesome! Now let's write the book!

                        [–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        It's coming :D

                        [–]-The-Prestige- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I haven't been reading this sub for long. I started by in November because No Nothing November caught my eye. I had heard of it over a year ago, but dismissed it because of a friend's inaccurate opinion of it. When I first started reading TRP, all I saw was the anger/hatred. I didn't get it. I thought, "For guys who are trying to date women, they really don't seem like they like women." Then I read a post about how male spaces are starting to disappear, and it was right. Male spaces are disappearing. Then the anger made since. This subreddit is a male space. This is a place where we can shoot the shit, say thing like "You know what I really hate about women. . . ", give each other tips about how to self-improve. I agree, the anger and hatred in this sub is necessary. Yeah, some of us have more anger in us than others, and rightfully so. We were told a bill of lies, and now we're sick of it. This is how guys are. We get fed up with something, we get angry, and we vent with our friends and like minded associates. Fuck the haters. If you're angry, that's fine because you should be. Living a life of anger is the problem when it takes control. I'm living my life the way I want, and so should you.

                        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

                        I discovered this subreddit at the age of 16, at autumun/fall 2014. From that moment up until now in these months I wouldn't say my life changed "DRASTICALLY" but you sure as hell changed me as a person DRASTICALLY and how I view things and how I interact with things. This is what I needed in my life, this is what was missing. I would like to thank you dearly for that, aswell as all the trp endorsed posters, cheers m8s!

                        [–]1StinkyDiaper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        As a 30 year-old male, I can say that it's incredibly wonderful to see young teennagers such as yourself finding this information. The world will be a better place for it. Keep up the hard work!

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                          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                          Thank you all, gentlemen. I found this sub through a /r/deadbedrooms situation, I was nearly hopeless and broken down - didn't know where to turn or what to do and this place has helped me turn my life around 100 fold. I'll be the first to admit, that it's difficult to accept the truth and kill that beta, but that constant improvement and motivation I get from all of you keeps me going. Reading your stories and your perceptions on the topics discussed here really has changed my life and it's only going to get better. Keep up the good work RPS and Mod team - as well as IM and all of the endorsed contributors who constantly post up great lessons and show us the truth.

                          [–]demoneyes905 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Its been almost a year since I started reading TRP out of the frustration and failure I had in my life and this subreddit has turned my life around. My salary has more than doubled, I have vastly improved in social skills and fitness and gave become more respected and successful in almost every thing.

                          So seriously...THANK YOU.

                          /u/RedPillSchool and any other TRP mods, if you're ever in NYC, PM me. Want to catch up and buy you guys a few drinks as a thank you!

                          [–]RPthrowaway123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          I am indebted to everyone here. This place is a real male space, without bullshit, without bullies and without all the hand-wringing NAWALT nonsense. It cuts straight to the core of how people, men and women, work.

                          I needed the kind of kick in the ass this place gave me. I think a lot of men do. My life has improved immeasurably because of it. I've had sex with more women. Attacked the weight room with renewed purpose. Rediscovered my hobbies and interests. I eat better. I live better.

                          This place has opened up a whole new world to me, one without boundaries or rules. Thanks, guys.

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                          [–]1StinkyDiaper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          One year is nothing but a drop in an ocean. When putting in hard work to change yourself, the growth occurs exponentially. It starts slowly, then eventually snowballs, and all of the work starts to pay off, right before your eyes!

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          Trp helped me overcome my gaming addiction and replaced it with lifting, for that I'm forever grateful.

                          Thanks trp, I hope you thrive even more

                          [–]red_gerb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Found this place Fall 2013. Crucified the Beta, still working on keeping it away.

                          Thank You for this Digital Locker Room of and for Men. I can't take advice nearly from any other person/place now. The Red Pill exposes all the crap.

                          The World is full of lies, and I didn't know how bad it was! Let's follow down the rabbit hole, and see just how deep it goes.

                          [–]justRPthings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I just want to say a quick thank you to this sub and everyone involved. you guys changed my life for the better and those lessons will stick with me for life. thank you.

                          [–]2elysius 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                          This is awesome, and thanks for the post-- it puts me a bit at ease. I've recently noticed a lot of concern trolling and entryism on the threads, and I was worried that the moderation had become lax or, worse, infiltrated. This post signals that we're still going in the right direction. Thanks.

                          [–]Kekeramitu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Amen brother. You and the other big-time posters here should be fucking proud. This place changed my life completely over the last year, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

                          [–]hutuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Just want to say thanks also. TRP has fundamentally changed my outlook on how to become a better man.

                          [–]TheLife_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          My body, my place of residence. I prettty much owe every improvement I've made in life in the last year to waking up to myself. If it wasn't for TRP I'd probably still be in the second-rate relationship I was in, not hitting the gym regularly and just not trying to get better at life.

                          TRP has led me into many new experiences and helped me de-stress about the world, and has shifted my focus from women to myself. I'm the primary agent in my happiness and that makes it my duty to make me happy.

                          Thanks for sharing. Here's to 100,000 members.

                          [–]leverage010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Cheers!

                          [–]tyrroi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                          Amazing to see a subreddit so hated regularly have posts reaching 1000 upvotes.

                          [–]therock6658 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Only 6000 more and we can reach /r/MensRights subscribers.

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                          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                          an idealist

                          Hell no. Pragmatist, yes. We accept reality and deal with it, make the best of it. Idealists hold onto their utopian dreams and quibble about every little infraction/imperfection.

                          [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                          I am just on the verge of leaving the house and meeting up for a drink with a prospect.

                          What better moment could there be to thank you for the good work running and maintaining this place both for me and all other men who lack orientation and a positive identity.

                          It might be myself, who's ultimately responsible for the bettering of myself for the last couple of months, but I definetly wouldn't be where I am, if it wasn't for TRP.

                          I'll raise my glas to you, the rest of the crew, everybody who brings value to this place, everybody who still struggles with himself and the world, but keeps going, and to the next 100.000 when I am with that girl in an hour.

                          Thanks for the ride, keep your heads high and never give up.

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