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Holy Fuck men, always protect yourself (self.TheRedPill)

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Just had a nightmare of a hookup.

Things were going great, brought this tiner girl back to my place, had some drinks, watched some netflix, the usual. Girl ends up giving me some head, and I bust a fat nut. Immediately, shit goes south. After the post nut high my horny goggles came off and realized I had no physical attraction to this girl. From there, we chilled for a bit, and I eventually told her I wasn't going to fuck her, and she had a complete meltdown, threatening to accuse me of rape unless I fucked her right then (The god damn irony).

Immediately, I walked out of the room, grabbed my phone and tossed that baby on voice record. From there, I continued to talk with her from a distance, making sure to get her voice admitting her entire plan, and only once disclosing that I recorded her did I manage to get her to leave.

Honestly I'm super shook up right now, I think I handled the situation correctly, but I felt like I had to get this out here. I'm honestly thinking about investing in a hidden cam of some sort for any future hookups. Stay safe men.


[–]-steez- 1014 points1015 points  (107 children)

Always protect yourself.

She. Knows. Where. You. Live.

[–][deleted] 262 points263 points  (97 children)

I live in an apartment with pretty good security and am moving out of town in the next month or so, but yea I'm scared as hell right now

[–]RedDeadlift 452 points453 points  (94 children)

What kind of crazy backwards society do we live in where our biggest fear is a tiny girl going psycho. Falsely accusing us of something We didn't do and destroying our lives with zero repercussions when caught lying.

So crazy. Stay safe indeed.

Edit: thanks for the warning by the way, always good to be reminded to protect yourself.

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    [–]41ph4 110 points111 points  (12 children)

    No you fear the thugs of the state. That girl is as helpless and hopeless as ever. But the cops, those fuckers will hurt you for her sake.

    [–]tuzki 57 points58 points  (2 children)

    I think really, this is the key bit.

    The cops and politicians will fuck over a regular joe because they're white-knighting so hard just to get ahead. Look at this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLk2aSBrR6U

    [–]analyticaltoafault 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Politicians are always shit eating suck ups to the populace's whims. That IS politics.

    [–]PEPEdamus 11 points12 points  (3 children)

    She's not exactly helpless if the state bows down to her whims and carries out her vengeance fantasy for her.

    [–]41ph4 12 points13 points  (2 children)

    she is if guys stop doing her whims. Thats my point. Its not women who are the problem, its the men giving women permission to be the way they are.

    [–]PEPEdamus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Women voters lead to this policy passing. Women voters lead to this idea being brought up in the first place.

    This is not a chicken or the egg thing.

    The woman wields the power here. Blaming the men who do their bidding is not going to fix the root cause.

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      [–]squidracer 20 points21 points  (2 children)

      Don't forget white knights. I had to chase a couple off my property with a gun several years ago

      [–]aga080 19 points20 points  (0 children)

      He def meant to say "tinder" girl

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      It's like being afraid of that skinny beta fag that owns a shotgun and is easily manipulated by others.

      You fear the shotgun and his eagerness to use it on you.

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        [–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero 37 points38 points  (65 children)

        The kind of society that won't last long

        I could never understand doomsday thinking like this, saying that under the current conditions, "society won't last long." What does that mean?

        How does this play out? The end of commerce? People will inevitably stop purchasing goods and services?

        Are we talking about the end of government, where society suddenly falls apart into some sort of Mad Max style dystopia as a result of women behaving exactly as they have since at least the beginning of recorded history?

        Thinking along these lines, saying "society won't last long," is the same bullshit fantasy that people have been harboring for thousands of years; yet after all this time, every morning, people still wake up, find work, gather resources, and try to smash their genitals together. That shit hasn't changed since the beginning of time, and it's not going to change because we presently live in an era that sometimes (and mind you, it is sometimes, not all times) temporarily affords more credence to false rape accusations than they deserve.

        We are facing real, discernible problems; and we need to focus on practical solutions to address those problems. The situation OP described is a serious problem, and saying the sky is falling is not a productive contribution to the conversation.

        [–]tyrryt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        The US, Russia, China, Brazil, Nigeria - all of them have tremendous resources, large populations, access to trade, etc. But one has enjoyed far greater levels of innovation, wealth, quality of life, education, etc. Why? What is the difference?

        Political and justice systems matter, and fucking with them has consequences.

        [–]obama_loves_nsa 35 points36 points  (47 children)

        No you are wrong. In less than one generation this will not be a sustainable society. Class and sex warfare will push us into a tribal society where the federal government will lose its grip on the people. Look at countries beginning to fall apart in Europe both literally (Ukraine / Brexit) and figuratively (France and Sweden) who will fall next. The problem of Islam being one of the biggest time bombs because of our shitty feminist societies letting them in... France will be an Islamic nation with nuclear weapons in less than 15 years. How does that make you feel?

        [–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero 3 points4 points  (40 children)

        That sounds like the same Chicken Little, "the sky is falling" rhetoric that has been popular since Antiquity. Supposedly, society has been in a perpetual state of collapse since Ancient Greece, and every generation is worse than the one that came before it.

        Assuming you're absolutely right, that the world is going to come to an end on October 22, 1844 or whatever day you choose, what are you advocating? What's your solution? What are you proposing we do about it?

        If you don't have a solution to an identifiable problem, then all you're doing is making noise.

        [–]segagaga 53 points54 points  (11 children)

        Uh except Ancient Hellenistic Greece did collapse, it was invaded on three sides. The rich sat squabbling in their palaces', concerned with fighting one another, while the poor died defending what little they had.

        [–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero 8 points9 points  (5 children)

        Ok, that's a fair point. I concede that many governments throughout history have collapsed for economic reasons.

        The point I was making was in relation to the following comment chain:

        What kind of crazy backwards society do we live in where our biggest fear is a tiny girl going psycho. Falsely accusing us of something We didn't do and destroying our lives with zero repercussions when caught lying.

        The kind of society that won't last long.

        This wasn't a discussion about financial disparity between social classes, followed by analyzing its potential long term economic effects. It was a conversation that said "we're on the edge of social collapse (a scenario that is still undefined) as a result of believing girls who make false rape accusations and don't punish those girls accordingly." That's the hyperbole I was addressing.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        The false rape allegations along with the total power women have over their husbands has caused men stop marrying and having kids.

        That is the very definition of social collapse.

        So yes, false rape allegations and women's power to say anything and destroy whatever they want, and rule over their husbands are all factors in "social collapse."

        [–]segagaga 33 points34 points  (0 children)

        A great many wise and advanced civilizations have fallen to younger, more vigorous, less civilized, less enlightened, less scrupulous races and states. Its not strictly about economics. It is exactly the "enlightened" beliefs and sense of their superiority that is our undoing. Those people with the absolute 100% belief that multicultural relativistic unity government is perfect and has no flaws. Except for the most obvious one, that it is entirely ineffective against those who do not share those beliefs and are willing to exploit those that do.

        "Those without swords can still die upon them."

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Congrats on being the most reasonable person I've seen in this shitshow of a sub. Nice.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 8 points9 points  (5 children)

        One solution is MGTOW. If enough quality men walk away from all associations with women they will have to pass laws to force men to enslave themselves to women- or they will have to change their behavior.

        [–]Roaring40sUK 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Or kidnap men and force them into marriage like they do in India..

        [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        women (...) will have to change their behavior.

        Somehow I thought you're in self-improvement books department, not in sci-fi

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          [–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero 7 points8 points  (2 children)

          The guy I responded to literally said society is going to end (technically, he said society wasn't going to last. Semantically the same point). How is my argument not a representation of society ending? More importantly, how is asking for a solution to whatever problem they've identified not crucial to the conversation?

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            [–]flyinpiggies 22 points23 points  (12 children)

            I've met an American who's lives in france working for Michelin, he's been there for about 20 years and he can tell you that Islam is slowly taking over. If nothing is done Sharia law WILL proceed. By comparing this to chicken little, you're just adding yourself to the list of people who think they are invincible, and that they will never have to worry about being executed for not having a certain belief. If all citizens are armed, than there really isn't anything to worry about.

            But that's the problem. Progressives and the like (i.e. The current younger generation) in European countries think that guns cause violence and should be banned (Take the UK for example). So when the islamic state decides to take over it will look like the level out of MW2 "No Russian".

            Edit: disclaimer I'm just a 19 year old college student

            [–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero 21 points22 points  (4 children)

            I'm going to use this as a teaching opportunity because a lot of people and politicians do what has just occurred in this comment chain to get people on their side of an argument, and I'm telling you this as a lawyer in his 30's. Go ahead and check my post history.

            I'm not going to argue whether Sharia law is taking over in France or whatever else has been claimed; I'm going to teach you about how to tell when someone is full of shit (or crazy) in an argument by pointing out what was said in this comment chain.

            As a college student, imagine you're sitting in History, and the class is talking about Neil Armstrong landing on the moon in 1969. Then, in the middle of a class discussion, some kid raises his hand and says "hamburgers taste great because of the moon landing in 1969." Hamburgers tasting great have nothing to do with the moon landing, Neil Armstrong, or anything else to do with what everyone else is discussing.

            So you indulge this kid and ask, "wtf do hamburgers tasting great have to do with the moon landing?" You're trying to see the connection between hamburgers and the moon. How did the moon landing cause hamburgers to taste great? Did hamburgers not taste great before the moon landing? What was it about the moon landing that caused hamburgers to taste great?

            Then, other kids start chiming in about how great hamburgers are and how great they are with fries and ketchup. Suddenly, the conversation is now all about hamburgers; and while you're still trying to see how that kid made a reasonable cause-and-effect connection between hamburgers and the moon landing, other people are attacking you as though you don't believe hamburgers taste great.

            Hamburgers tasting great has nothing to do with the original claim, which was "the moon landing is the cause of hamburgers tasting great." It may very well be a fact that hamburgers taste great, and you're not arguing whether or not hamburgers taste great. What you want to know is how the fuck did the moon landing cause hamburgers to taste great in this kid's mind.

            These are tricks people pull in arguments to distract you from illogical claims. Look for the pattern "A causes B." Then see if their response has more to do with A or B. Valid arguments will focus on A and further describe how A causes B. But if they spend more time talking about B or otherwise completely ignore A, then they are either crazy or full of shit.

            "Eating roast beef (A) causes your hair turn red (B)." "What? How does it do that?" "YOU DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH RED HAIR??"

            "Picking your nose in the summer (A) causes you to get sunburned faster (B)." "What does picking your nose have to do with getting sunburned?" "BECAUSE PEOPLE CLOSER TO THE EQUATOR ARE CLOSER TO THE SUN!"

            "False rape accusations cause the collapse of society." "What? That seems a bit extreme." "MUSLIMS ARE TAKING OVER FRANCE AND SHARIA LAW WILL REIGN OVER EUROPE!"

            So when someone makes the claim "A causes B," it doesn't matter if B really is real or is a fact or true or whatever. The claim being made is that A causes B. When people shift the focus of the conversation away from A and how it causes B and focus instead on other things that make B true, that means they are trying to trick you into believing something when they don't have any evidence or otherwise can't prove it, just like a false rape accusation.

            "He raped me!" "Do you have any evidence to prove he raped you?" "WHAT? YOU DONT BELIEVE RAPE CAN HAPPEN?! PEOPLE GET RAPED ALL THE TIME!"

            What they're doing here is trying to prove their claim that A causes B by proving that B is true. But the argument isn't whether or not B is true. The argument is whether or not A is the reason why B is true. Anything that the other person says that tries to get you to believe B is true, other than focusing on A and how it relates to B, is tricking you into believing A causes B.

            [–]2wiseclockcounter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Your wall-of-text teaching moment only teaches us that you don't know what a strawman argument is. Kind of disappointing coming from a lawyer.

            All you've done is twisted the argument into an irrelevant set of constraints where you insist there's no direct cause between claim A and claim B. But no one was saying that there was.

            What was being said is that women making such frequent and flippant false rape accusations is symptomatic of the larger societal trend. The trend we're seeing is one where men are socially and politically disincentivized to pursue committed, child-bearing relationships.

            One of those disincentives is how women can falsely accuse men of rape or spousal abuse to bludgeon them with the State for personal gain or revenge. So what happens when a societal model like Islam comes in where women cannot do those things, and where people marry young and have 5, 6, 7 children? In 20 or 30 years time you have a knew majority. The society that was producing children below replacement level has now been outbred, outvoted, and outmanned.

            You can call it crazy all you want, but at a certain point it just boils down to mathematics. A society that doesn't replace itself will dwindle into nothing eventually. It seems you have it in your head that buildings need to be on fire for society to be collapsing. While there's a good chance actual violence will pop off in Western Europe, the lead up to that is gradual and the warning signs are many.

            Just because you don't read hieroglyphics, doesn't mean there isn't writing on the wall.

            [–]BOSpecial 2 points3 points  (6 children)

            I'm just a 19 year old

            Then why are you running your mouth? Take the extensive experience of the world you obtained in high school and keep it to yourself.

            [–]1Jax77789 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            You are mostly right. However, never before in history have women had so much power and men been so emasculated. This is unprecedented. The problem is right there. Women are way way too powerful today. You let them run the show and massive shit happens ( mass immigration, IQ decline, general societal degeneracy, men's lack of incentives to shine, directionless countries, etc ) . He is right in saying that all of this will end up very badly.

            Solution: put the hoes right where they belong, a mile beneath you and 2 miles behind you. Enforce some godamn standards, treat hoes like utter shit, fuck them hard and dump them hard, be so valuable that bitches fall from the skies and so scary that the turds from the dirt world run away from you in the streets, lead by example and things can change.

            [–]Lern2army 13 points14 points  (8 children)

            Western society IS collapsing and it is highly visible. Declining birth rates, social justice, and liberal fiscal policies are speeding this up. Europeans (white people) are the minority on earth and won't last long.

            Fixing these issues would require things that people find very, very ugly i.e. take women's right to vote away, make sex outside of marriage illegal, make abortions illegal, get rid of no fault divorce, etc. Basically, a hard patriarchy. This won't happen and I don't want it to because it will make my short time on earth less enjoyable.

            As long as there is mankind, there will be society. Western civilization will collapse just like every great empire before it i.e. Roman, Ottoman, Byzantine. I imagine the future will be Muslim and the vast majority will be Middle Eastern Asian and Far East Asian followed by Central and South American.

            [–]SpecOpsAlpha 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            This is actually the collapse of an idea -- that there is an objective right and wrong. Nietzsche predicted this, btw

            [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 9 points10 points  (3 children)

            Islam isn't very big on tech and science, thanks to Al Ghazali. They will always be limited in the scope of their power as long as the religion rules their countries, due to that fact. What the christian propaganda tells you is meant to inflame you, make you afraid, and demonize them. The majority of it is false, absolute bullshit fabricated to make them look even worse. Really there is no reason to do that, other than the christian religion calls for the same things as islam, and pointing it out would make themselves look bad.

            The muslim world is backwards, always will be due to the era the book was written in. The reason the west has made advances isn't due to christians being more enlightened or intelligent, it's due to the countries not having the religion make the laws. If the USA was a theocracy, the Wright brothers would've never flown, because attempting to fly was punishable by death in christian law. Imagine where we would still be if the USA was a theocracy. You should be thankful it is not.

            [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            'They will always be limited in the scope of their power as long as religion rules their countries...' - Yes, but the fact is they're no longer staying in their countries.

            I know you are American because I've seen your previous posts, so I'm not accusing you of ignorance, but Islam is actually far worse than what it is portrayed as by Christians or the media - and as an atheist I don't mind telling you they are NOT the same value-wise.

            If you are interested I suggest you read 'The Strange Death of Europe' by Douglas Murray or look up Tommy Robinson on YouTube but if you want further material still then a German man called Kraut and Tea has a YouTube channel that you would find enlightening.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 8 points9 points  (1 child)

            the christian religion calls for the same things as islam

            Really? Let's compare!

            Jesus said: "go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

            If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

            Mohamed said: "“Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]."

            Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day

            when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.

            And fight them until fitna is no more, and religion be only for Allah

            It seems the message is different. I am pretty sure "Fight...Fight...Fight" means something DIFFERENT than "Leave." I am certain that FORCE them to accept Allah and pay taxes means something different than "Baptise" and "teach."

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Thank you.

            The constant praise for a certain ideology here, and on other subreddits is disturbing to say the least.

            Beyond fitnah, westerners need to educate themselves about shirk, dawah, hijrah, taqiyya, kitman, takfirism, and several other important Islamic concepts.

            [–]ezone2kil 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            The irony of those fixes is that all of those things are exactly the teachings of Islam.

            No sex outside marriage? Check.

            Man as the head of the family unit? Check. There's even a saying in Islam Man is 9/10 mind 1/10 lust/emotions. Women is the reverse.

            Divorce in Islam is basically only by consent of the husband (he's the one that has to say "I divorce you").

            Abortions illegal? Check.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Every monotheistic religion has had every single one of these rules that you give. It's not Christian vs. Muslim. Its Christian vs. Atheistic cultural Marxism. Guess which one rules the U.S. today?

            [–]sayywhaaaaat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            This is the best response I've read for that aphorism in years. With a slight tweak to your response, it could serve as the right answer to a lot of the other bullshit on the net these days.

            Surviving and finding meaning is what we need to do.

            I mean how many times in history have societies turned south because people just sat on their asses in disgust all while waiving their fists in the air in vane.

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              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              It's always eye opening to realize this for myself. The moment a random girl I barely know at a party talks about her past because she doesn't expect to see me ever again is full of her cheating and laughing at the idea of anyone trusting her.

              Western women are barely even people and I'm learning that I need to treat them as such

              [–]improvising1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              My brain autocorrected that to tiny at first too but she was a tinder girl.

              Judging by OPs post nut reaction she was probably not tiny.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              It's not the tiny girls. It's the big men with clubs and guns that we fear.

              You are quite correct to blame society. This is not an individual problem. This is a textbook social problem and individual men cannot win. Collectively we could win, but not divided as we are. They will keep pushing until we stand up as a group and force them to stop.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              What kind of crazy backwards society do we live in where our biggest fear is a tiny girl going psycho.

              All the horror movies were right

              [–]beefcake592 13 points14 points  (0 children)

              Recordings to protect you legally, Smith and Wesson to protect you physically, and latex to protect you financially. Stay safe my friends!

              [–]ballietbran 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Definitely have cameras bro. She was pussy that she gave you some and got none in return lol. Always protect yourself man, cameras are great for multiple purposes and now a days they're really affordable to get atleast one or two of them.

              [–]Treasure_hand 55 points56 points  (5 children)

              I made a rule when I found the red pill, and when all the false accusations were going around. Never my place, never my name, never where I work. No plates or one night stands have ever seen the inside of my house, I don't use my real name when picking up or leave my wallet in plain view when clothes are off, and never tell them where I work, or hit on anyone I work with. Most of the time, the good action goes on clear across town. Call me a liar but I'm not under oath so why should I tell the truth to someone I barely know.

              [–]1dongpal 27 points28 points  (3 children)

              Bonus points : women love mistery

              [–]Treasure_hand 9 points10 points  (2 children)

              Haha nice play on words, more of a protection of my identity than anything. I keep all my morning after text message proof on a thumb drive, phone number is throwaway.

              [–]UnKnownSurviving 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              Dude, this is what everyman, should do now. I mean, the world has gotten even more dangerous than WWII. Men can't do anything without some cunt watching his back, because she didn't like him calling her pretty, so she needs to cut his balls. This shit is why I never hangout with pretty ones, much less the ugly ones. I only hang with my bros I trust.

              I learned my lessons at work, my time with dating girls, and everything else. When I'm with my bros, I can relax. with girls, my guard is way fucking up, sky high, and as coolly as possible. I don't trust them or want them.

              [–]Treasure_hand 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              It doesn't quite fit the alpha persona, but it protects me from meaningless litigation and in my job a simple accusation could be enough for a court martial. Military justice doesn't work the same as civilian court. Once your in that hot seat, especially for a sexual related accusation, the officers might want to make an example of you. No thanks.

              [–]prodigy2throw 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              I implemented these exact rules too. Avoided so much bullshit from a BPD girl I was fucking.

              [–]LiveLikeAMan 7 points8 points  (1 child)

              She. Knows. Where. You. Live.

              And.What.You.Did.Last.Summer.

              [–]1RPAlternate42 423 points424 points  (35 children)

              Forcing you to have sex with her by way of force or fear is sexual assault.

              It's also extortion.

              You have the right to rescind consent at any time. Thanks for the info, feminism.

              [–]saargrin 93 points94 points  (5 children)

              maybe theres a case here for him to accuse her of attempted rape?

              [–]mushroom_overlord 53 points54 points  (4 children)

              I'm pretty sure threatening to use the legal system against someone counts as coercion, so it would have been rape if he fucked her because he was under the duress of having his life potentially ruined. I don't know if there's anything he can do since he didn't give in and fuck her, but either way good luck getting that conviction in the gynocentric society we live in.

              [–]lukmeg 35 points36 points  (1 child)

              Threatening is already illegal, but as you say good luck getting a conviction when its a woman doing it to a man. If it was reversed it would be a slam dunk case with the audio, but being a woman threatening a man it would not go anywhere.

              [–]mushroom_overlord 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              I figured the threat itself was illegal, but didn't want to assume for lack of knowledge about OP's situation.

              [–]SimianFriday 17 points18 points  (1 child)

              so it would have been rape if he fucked her because he was under the duress of having his life potentially ruined.

              Guys, be very, very careful because this is actually not always true - the legal definition of rape in most states only applies in situations where the victim was penetrated. So unless she whipped out a strap on and went to town on him, it would not be considered rape in the eyes of the law.

              This is why there are numerous cases every single year of drunk / drugged men who are taken advantage of by women and unable to file rape charges. It often comes down to a vague or poor legal definition of the term rape that is the problem.

              [–]Roaring40sUK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Yes, the legal definition of rape leaves no room for a male victim when a woman is involved.

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                [–]XenithTheCompetent 22 points23 points  (5 children)

                Let's say that by some miracle that she does end up in jail. It'll be a- what, 2 year sentence?

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                  [–]bluedrygrass 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                  It's the message that counts. Women are highly impressionable, if the risk of being jailed (and thus judged negatively by the society, which is the worst thing ever for a woman) become even remotely viable, most women would change their actions in a hearthbeat.

                  [–]alefmale 19 points20 points  (2 children)

                  the right to rescind consent at any time

                  Use it. Rejection is healthy. They'll grow.

                  [–]Mildly_Sociopathic 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                  Extorting someone into having sex with you is rape.

                  [–]TruthInArt 3 points4 points  (11 children)

                  You have the right to rescind consent at any time.

                  Man that shit includes after everything has gone down as well. What a joke of a law.

                  [–]2rp_valiant 9 points10 points  (10 children)

                  I think the idea is that you can rescind it at the time. No-one openly supports a legal framework of retroactive consent withdrawal, some women just practice it when they "realise" they were raped because their boyfriend caught them cheating.

                  [–]radfemtori 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                  I want to add in that the revoking consent is important in situations like, say, your partner wants to do something with you mid-sex that you don't feel comfortable doing and they force you to anyway.

                  [–]2rp_valiant 5 points6 points  (5 children)

                  that's more just not extending consent to the new sex act. The way I see it, once you're having sex consent is assumed to be continuing unless someone says they don't want to do something. That's not to say you just jam it in her ass without warning, but you can test the waters before moving onto more contentious stuff and see if she says no.

                  The feminist idea of constantly asking for consent for the next act sounds good in theory but it's just going to instantly kill any mood.

                  [–]radfemtori 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                  Well, honestly, changing positions, maybe moving around, performing oral or something (if visibly consenting) is alright. But if the words "no" or "I don't want to do this anymore" or "I'm not comfortable with this" come up - that's all we mean.

                  [–]2rp_valiant 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  well there's the whole affirmative consent thing. Sounds like you take the reasonable position but there are plenty out there who take it too far.

                  [–]TruthInArt 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  It seems like a good rule to keep is to not fuck girls with boyfriends.

                  [–]2rp_valiant 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  well yeah, but there are plenty of girls out there who won't mention their boyfriend to a guy they want to fuck.

                  [–]NibblyPig 56 points57 points  (3 children)

                  I installed something called Record One Click on my phone, and set it to a home screen shortcut. I can pick up my phone, press the power button to turn on the screen, and swipe it right. It will then automatically immediately start recording audio and video. Worth it for situations like this, I expect.

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                    [–]NibblyPig 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Android, yeah. I just picked the first app that came up when I searched for instant video record.

                    [–]iwasbornred 163 points164 points  (3 children)

                    I mean I get your perspective, you were just enjoying a bj and afterwards realized the girl giving it to you wasn't really that great.

                    But look at what happened: this girl gives you a blowjob(literally putting your piss hose in her mouth), invests her time into pleasuring you, and you bust a nut in her mouth before refusing to reciprocate with even just normal sex(nevermind going down on HER)

                    What the fuck did you expect? A rational "oh thanks for the jizz, it was tasty, hope you have a good night sir!"

                    I'm not defending her actions and the rape stuff but you're an idiot dude.

                    [–]bonerland11 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                    EXACTLY!!! If I eat some chick's cash vag out and she gets off then won't fuck me afterwards I'm going to be pretty pissed off as well, what a fucking moron.

                    [–]AnonymousAndLovinIt 25 points26 points  (0 children)

                    This is the second thread I've read like this. Granted she has no right to lie and cause him trouble in his life for something he didn't do, but guys come on! You built a situation where you made her feel so fugging ugly that she was only worth a blowjob after she came to your house!

                    [–]enkae7317 86 points87 points  (1 child)

                    Brah you coulda played this shit off easily. Just say you busted a nut and now you can't have sex anymore. Be a MAJOR disapointment to her like all her guy chodes orbiters and then snuggle to sleep.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    This doesn't work. They try sucking your dick again and get even more mad

                    [–]1StuttBuffer 53 points54 points  (8 children)

                    Wow that is a twisted ultimatum. She basically tried to rape/blackmail you. I would be very interested to read a transcript of what you recorded. So might the courts.

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                      [–]Not-in-it-for-karma 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                      And had he actually had sex with him, she could've still pulled a crazy and pressed rape charges, since he had sex with her. Lose-lose situation, recording was the only way out.

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                        [–]ovrsurge 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                        Likely the juicy bits were before he started recording. The recording at that point was a preventative measure. Not detective work.

                        [–]iwasbornred 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        From his description I don't think she knew he was recording until the end of the conversation and once she knew she realized she had no power anymore and left

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                        [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (15 children)

                        Any advice? I'm seriously freakin out here, even though I think I followed the right process. Stayed calm, avoided contact, and voice recorded everything. Camera would have been ideal but I thought getting her to admit her entire BS accusation would be better, and I couldn't really do that with a camera pointed at her face

                        [–]jackandjill22 26 points27 points  (10 children)

                        How the hell did you manage to bring back a girl you had zero attraction to?

                        [–]goodtimecharles 33 points34 points  (1 child)

                        If it's been a while since you got some action the brain can do crazy things, especially when you're younger. Then after you bust it's like a moment of clarity.

                        [–]rattamahatta 4 points5 points  (7 children)

                        It's easy. You act aloof, casual but friendly, demonstrate disinterest.

                        [–]jackandjill22 15 points16 points  (5 children)

                        No, that's not what I meant. I mean why would you be so negligent, not "how did you game her".

                        [–]lukmeg 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                        You really have to ask? He was horny as hell so even a table looked attractive. After he cum from the blow job his senses came back.

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                        [–]SabotageTheWrit 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                        Last girl I hooked up with, after going down on her she says "that was great but I don't give blowjobs". I let it go because we moved right to the fucking which was good, but in principle it was a shitty thing. If I put my face in the very personal area that is your crotch and you accept it, there is an unspoken expectation that you'll give the favor back to me.

                        Now if afterwards she'd have said "thanks but I have to go / we're not going to have sex" or something like that, I've have felt used and would have been rightfully pissed. So this girl is at least in the right to be mad. Not the further actions, but OP isn't 100% innocent here.

                        [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (7 children)

                        What the fuck? This chick basically said that if you don't fuck her, she's gonna accuse you of rape. I have been with many women and never encountered something like this. I mean there are times we are hooking up and don't have sex because of no condom and the chick is usually cool with that.

                        This is not normal, even for women. Never encountered something like this. Good luck.

                        [–]Phoenixtorment 37 points38 points  (5 children)

                        You have never rejected sex with a girl, thats why. Women go apeshit over that. It's a gigantic lifethreatening blow to their ego.

                        [–]bluedrygrass 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                        There's no madder woman than a rejected one.

                        [–]bluedrygrass 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                        There's no madder woman than a rejected one.

                        [–]ciarao55 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                        But isn't this just a mental health issue? I've known plenty of people in general that can't handle rejection. this woman is certainly fucking batshit, and that behavior is beyond shameful. Faking a crime like that is evil. Not only because it has the potential to ruin someone's life, but it also takes credence away from those whose stories of assault are actually true.

                        Op- Maybe you should report the incident to the police anyway, because what if she does this to someone else? Or has done this before? I mean maybe she's just a sad, vengeful person and was only trying to scare you by saying something reckless (probably), but what if she ruins someone else's life or has in the past by bringing false charges? She likely won't get in criminal trouble, but at least your local department will know this woman has a mental health problem and her stories are suspect. I had a family member that had a serious personality disorder (narcissistic) and when crossed would sic police on people under false pretenses. Don't fuck around with people like this, they don't have a conscious and are incapable of empathy on a biological level.

                        Sorry this happened to you. Good on you for audio recording, but video just for filming your tinder dates sounds creepy and I can see that giving a stranger the wrong impression of you so be careful with that.

                        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                        yes it is but the average woman (and person, really) is not really stable

                        [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

                        Girls get more and more fucked up the more they get tossed from one guy to another

                        They go from passively hoping you'll give them things they want to VIOLENTLY DEMANDING THINGS THEY WANT

                        From "i like you! :) please?" to screaming toxic shit at a distance or forcing you to do shit you don't want to do

                        this is the dark side of "next"

                        [–]thecolorcow 177 points178 points  (62 children)

                        That's pretty fucking selfish tho. Bust a fat nut in her mouth 'and then' decide you don't have enough attraction to let her ride your dick? That has gotta really fuck up her psyche, can't you see that? How did you see any of this going well? Not your fault shes a psycho but it is your falt for getting yourself in this situation. When you stir the crazy pot, sometimes it catches on fire.

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                          [–]Dat_Chad 18 points19 points  (35 children)

                          he changed his mind. he decided that he actually did not like her at all. he is well within his rights.

                          [–][deleted] 109 points110 points  (31 children)

                          You're right, he was totally within his rights to be a total asshole. He was still a total asshole

                          [–]darkonark 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                          I believe the point of argument falls under "common courtesy", not rights.

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                            [–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (15 children)

                            That doesn't mean he isn't a giant douche

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                              [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (6 children)

                              Again, not saying you HAVE to do anything. Is it a dick move to go "fuck you, got mine, get out?"

                              Absofuckingloutley. This isn't some deep seated emotional response, this is literally "thanks for busting my nut, now you're not as pretty as I thought though, so you can gtfo"

                              [–]aga080 2 points3 points  (6 children)

                              What the fuck are people like you doing in red pill? I thought we purged all these accounts? MODS WHERE ARE YOU??

                              [–]darkonark 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                              That's fine and dandy, but not reciprocating head? That's some greedy shit right there.

                              [–]AnonymousAndLovinIt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              can't you see that? How did you see any of this going well?

                              Solipsism.

                              Not only did he lack foresight, he failed to use tact. If she was really that bad he should've joked it off and popped a pill or something.

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                                [–]Sighters 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                gotta put that shit on record from the get-go

                                [–]Eric_Wulff 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                                That's a normal experience that virtually every man has had. Sometimes men feel attracted to a woman until they ejaculate, after which they enter a new state of being actively averse to touching or even being around the woman. There's nothing wrong with that, and over time you'll learn how to avoid those situations because you'll see the signs before you decide to take them back to your place. Either that or you'll embrace the common tendency for degeneracy and indulge in the present emotions, knowing you'll feel empty, unsatisfied, and even disgusted with yourself later on. You may also do that with junk food or other such things.

                                The real question, though, is why you explicitly told her that you weren't going to fuck her and how you let it escalate into her having a meltdown. You could have just made small talk for a while to show that you're a mature human being able to be patient and non-impulsive, and then told her that you have work to do and that you'll need your place to yourself. Then you could have just not contacted her, and she would have forgotten about you.

                                [–]BOSpecial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                The real question, though, is why you explicitly told her that you weren't going to fuck her and how you let it escalate into her having a meltdown. You could have just made small talk for a while to show that you're a mature human being able to be patient and non-impulsive, and then told her that you have work to do and that you'll need your place to yourself. Then you could have just not contacted her, and she would have forgotten about you

                                OP probably thought that it was alpha thing to do, being respectful of another person is so blue pill :D

                                [–]BestSC86 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                Damn...being attracted to a damn girl is usually a prereq for letting her touch my dick.

                                I guess other people roll a different route.

                                Op needs to work on his damn selection methods and stop being so damn thirsty that he is considering ugly chicks then bailing. Messing with fire tends to get you burnt.

                                [–]bizmarck 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                                Well, I'm not saying she's not batshit crazy, but she did do something for you... and you gave nothing back.

                                If the scenario played differently and she simply walked out on you with a look when you told her there's gonna be no nookie it's definitely you who'd be the douche. You brought her home to fuck, that was the silent agreement. I can understand why she was pissed, but the way she dealt with it... textbook redpill stuff :)

                                [–]Zohso 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                Fuck. Makes me think twice about "going back to her place." It would be her turf. Yup, I've decided. I'm never going back to her place.

                                [–]Yetna 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                Dude you were kind of a prick though. I doubt she would've actually called the cops. She was probably just sexually frustrated beyond reason. Then again she should of never given you head if she wanted to get fucked. Live and learn.

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                                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Haha. I was thinking the same thing. If there is the time I bring a girl back to my place or end up at hers, unless she doesn't consent, I'm banging her. Even if she isn't the best looking.

                                [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                "Stay safe" ?

                                How about:

                                have some common decency and reciprocate.

                                She shouldn't have gone to the false accusations, she should have just gone straight to kicking you square in the nuts. Looks like a situation of two assholes finding each other in the night.

                                Red pill isn't about shitting all over people. It's about bettering ourselves.

                                You need to work on how to better treat the people around you. That will go a long way towards making you a better person, and will certainly help you avoid finding yourself involved in such fucked up situations.

                                [–]DouglasPR 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                                that's it, Im going full "Hall 9000" in my place asap. Ill put camera even in my car.

                                [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (15 children)

                                Voice recording aint premitted in court, in many states etc. but damn man what kind of a ugly hambeast did you pick up>>>?

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                                  [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                                  thats physical dna evidence; a crazy bitch like that could still lie and say you raped her for her warped motives..and now she would have evidence

                                  [–]kadykinns 6 points7 points  (6 children)

                                  Wtf why not? If that actually went to court that's THE evidence of attempted assault right?

                                  [–]1SirKolbath 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                                  Uhh... Actually, most states allow voice recording as long as one party had knowledge and consent. Thus you can record a conversion of which you are a part, but NOT a conversation you are (for example) listening to at the park.

                                  I believe only New Jersey and those dipshits in California require informed consent from all parties before allowing a conversation to be recorded.

                                  This applies to video recording as well, so I strongly recommend that you video every sexual encounter simply to prevent situations like this one. It's not about titillation or porn. It's about self defense.

                                  [–]Gadnuk_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                  Generally there is an assumed privacy clause and in public you have no assumption of privacy, so a stranger's park conversation you're not party to would be (weird AF but) fair game to record whereas in a private residence you often need consent to record from all parties.

                                  That's why paparazzi can be so aggressive and intrusive without violating the law, because there's no expectation of privacy in public. They'll wait at the end of your driveway with a trove of recording equipment because as soon as you hit that public ground you no longer have a legal claim to privacy.

                                  [–]1SirKolbath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  Thanks, Gadnuk. I knew there was something I was forgetting. "Assumption of privacy." Appreciate you picking up my slack.

                                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  Obviously grabbed a hambeast

                                  [–]Lateralanouncer 5 points6 points  (8 children)

                                  Thanks for sharing bro, I stumbled across this video yesterday and it put things into perspective. https://youtu.be/xNubAGCGo7U

                                  [–]DONT_reply_with_THIS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                  The fault is with the men that have women making false accusations dead to rights and they don't pursue charges because they're beta cucks. One guy even mentioned how the arabs stroll in their neighborhoods chests held high and he said he was sad to admit it but arabs are taking the Jewish women.

                                  WTF israel is cucked

                                  [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                                  Israel, home to the owners of most of the world's federal reserve banks (includig the IMF), printers of most of the world's currency. Home to the owners of most major media outlets. Home to the owners of western porn. Homw to the United States owner. Home to a supposedly tight knit group of people. Home to the most powerful people in world history... they have armed walls to keep out non jews especially palestinians that they shit on. But they allow the passing of this law to be a dwelling place for female demons.

                                  [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                  If this was the other way around, that recording would get you jail time.

                                  [–]Hillary_For_Prison 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                  Assuming you are in a one-party consent state for recordings, go to the cops and give them a copy of the audio. Let them know she's psycho and may try to pull some shit on you. Getting to the cops now will help you out a lot later if she goes full psycho.

                                  [–]TheLegionnaire00 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                  That's why I don't use tinder. It's full of crazy bitches.

                                  [–]AssMaster95 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                  I once hooked up with a girl that just couldn't turn me on that night, she proceeded to place my flaccid penis in her vagina and even went as far as turning off the lights, all the while I wasn't sure how to handle it.

                                  [–]Kings_Gold_Standard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  Uh just fuck her you Moron

                                  [–]LordThunderbolt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                  Should've porked her hard in the ass. Also, for future reference, don't tell them you have them recorded. Let them throw their fit and start talking spicy to other people, then expose them for the poisonous harpies they are by delivering the evidence to people.

                                  [–]aanarchist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  damn bro u musta been thirsty as hell.

                                  [–]DDFIVEE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  Make sure you guys know if you are in a one or two-party consent state for recordings.

                                  Otherwise recording voice may provide useless

                                  [–]NYCMusicMarathon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  Reddit wisdom applied.

                                  Never put your dick in crazy.

                                  After the post nut high my horny goggles came off and realized I had no physical attraction to this girl

                                  OP put his dick in crazy.

                                  Crazy went crazy.

                                  Lesson learned horny googles can lead to
                                  Altered Mental Status

                                  tl;dr: Never put your dick in crazy.

                                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                  It's crazy how women pull the rape card like it's nothing. I keep reading stories like this and I'm starting to think that Roosh V's satirical solution of making rape legal on private property is actually to only solution there is to protect men from psycho women like that.

                                  [–]aga080 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                  Th comments in this thread are proof their are many many trolls left in TRP and they are literally attempting a disinformation campaign. What the hell is happening mods? We need to do something about this.

                                  [–]beachbbqlover 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  Do us all a favor and submit an anonymous report, possibly with that as evidence that this woman has done that.

                                  That way when she finally does charge a man, there is evidence that she's a liar.

                                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  Yes!

                                  Forgive my excitement over your situation, I'm just glad the message is finally sticking.

                                  record everything

                                  I wouldn't have told her I recorded anything (she can Weasley around it maybe) but otherwise you did stellar.

                                  Women can and will ruin your life and take your freedom with a word. Act like it! You did. You recorded and possibly saved yourself from legal fees, being considered a rapist, losing your job, going to prison, and being registered as a sex offender.

                                  Dude, you literally just saved your own life.

                                  Do not delete that recording

                                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                  This wouldnt be the case if we had strict laws against hysterics and thottyness like Iran.

                                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  I agree, Muslims keep the sluts in check

                                  [–]DeathToTheZog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  Wow. That is actually terrifying.

                                  [–]vfetg 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                                  if she falsely accuses you, kill her. She has no qualms or conscience about lying to basically ruin your life, show her the same level of respect shes showing you. What shes doing so effectively murder in that she is knowingly and willfully trying to end your life.

                                  [–]moonpodrising 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                  I'd rather protect myself by avoiding the need for recording devices.

                                  Having sex on a first ever tinder meeting? That doesn't seem safe. Better for both of us to meet then have some time apart to ponder each other before deciding whether to move forwards. There's no need to rush. I don't have a terminal illness. Being horny for another week (which isn't how it really works, but whatever) won't kill me.

                                  [–]Lecriminale 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                  Jesus this sub is cringetopia

                                  [–]LongHugBoy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  I don't think false rape allegations are ever appropriate but it sounds like she was pissed and irrational after finding out you were an asshole. She probably won't press charges or come get you in your sleep but I'm sure she'll tell anyone who will listen what kind of scumbag you are. Maybe even outside your place or at whatever bar/restaurant/coffee shop you two went to. I'd be more worried about the recording depending on the consent laws in your state. Secretly recording voice of someone doesn't magically become legal if you tell them after the fact in my state.

                                  [–]5t3fan0 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                  She's clearly crazy, but OP was also dumb as fuck... he gave that hamster gas and matches, then got shocked when everything started burning.

                                  the "DONT STICK YO DICK IN CRAZY" rule includes, unwritten, "AND DO NOT LET CRAZY SMELL IT, EITHER"

                                  [–]squidracer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  Because nothing makes a guy horny like a girl saying she's going to accuse him of rape. That would actually help her build her case

                                  [–]jakeinmn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  This is why theres a thing called Beta Game. You actually try and get super needy and return all the tingles back to the muff in which it came.

                                  The point is to turn off people you wouldn't want to be with.

                                  The positive applications of shattering attraction can be left to your imagination.

                                  [–]RenaissanceMan79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  I've long contemplated, even advocated, installing a spy cam in ones apartment as an insurance policy. Right now I have an iPhone dock that's mostly for playing music, but the phone is jailbroken and can record video in the background. It's not ideal since I still have to go turn that on, but I can do it while "putting on some music"

                                  Don't stick your dick in crazy to be sure, but sometimes you just don't know when it's someone you met that night.

                                  [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  Unfortunately this is what they do.

                                  Although you could have been a bit more discrete over the loss of attraction. I would have waited a few minutes and then bent her over. Taking one for the team might have made everybody fEEEEEEEL better about the whole encounter.

                                  [–]michael_wilkins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  Why did you tell her you recorded it? now she'll know for next time.

                                  [–]redleader95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  back up the recording on an online service in case the police arrest you. the police have been known to destroy evidence that hinders the prosecution

                                  [–]passinhoes80 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  This sounds made up as hell

                                  [–]youkickmyd0g 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                  Last line of defense is courts have body language interpreters, so just remain calm and tell the truth. She'll tell on herself. Knowing that should give you the confidence to know even if it gets there you can be exonerated. I'd just forget about it. Meanwhile checkout Bombard's Body Language channel on YouTube. Others along the way should see right through it.

                                  [–]cvillano 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                  Not being able to pity fuck a chick who just gave you head is pretty pathetic imo

                                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (10 children)

                                  Don't waste your semen on one night stands or girls you've just met. Practice karezza (sex without orgasm). Cum in a girl you want to bond with.

                                  [–]Occams_Stubble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  It should be mentioned that OP acted like a douche. They both wanted sex, she gave him sex and in return he denied her any pleasure. She was used in a very obvious and selfish way, of course she reacted. Yes, over reacted, but OP started the snowball down the hill.

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