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Red Pill ExampleMarried man from r/DeadBedrooms gets fed up. Applies every single RP principle by the book, without even knowing about RP. Results are as predictable as you'd expect. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1wakethfkupneo

Looking through RP lens, story reads almost like a fairy tale.

The long hard road, out of hell

My life was shit. I frequently dreamed of suicide. My biggest problem was my sexless marriage. I logged in to this old account this morning to find a dozen messages asking me if I had killed myself (How would I even answer?) or if I had divorced my wife yet. Neither of those things happened. Something much better happened.

Now quickly, imagine yourself going to r/relationships or similar mainstream sub. What do you think would be #1 advice?

Shortly after I made those posts, my wife and I started seeing a marriage counselor. Everyone in the world told me counseling was the right thing to do.

Of course! Counseling!! Aaaaand ... did it work?

The counselor's advice amounted to something like "So you're horribly depressed because you have needs which aren't being met. Have you considered not having needs?". At one point he floated the idea of trying to get me a libido lowering drug. He was 100% on my wife's side of everything.

Libido lowering drug!? /SMH

After one year of brainwashing he finally gives them both 'a finger' ...

... I told him to fuck off. I told him that his services were worthless and that I would not be returning.

... completely withdraws attention from his wife and starts focusing on himself:

I got back into old hobbies I had been neglecting during my depression, started spending 3 or 4 hours a day at the gym doing heavy compound lifts fueled by repressed anger, and running until I made myself puke.

For 3 months he got no reaction, but at that point he genuinely DGAF anymore. But something else was starting to happen: other women suddenly checking him out and people at gym complimenting his progress. The mark of true success: persistence.

Seasoned RPers already know what you get when you cross Dread and SMV increase:

The next day as I was leaving, she stopped me and said pretty much nothing before initiating sex. That day I missed the gym because we fucked for four hours.

The Alpha is born. Nothing can stop him now.

Starting the next day, I'd text her commands from work. Stuff like "Be naked when I get home." or "Wear the red one. Make sure a lot of lube is easily available." and she would follow them. ... For about a month after, I still spent no effort on her needs.

I can already imagine Roissy linking his skittles man story.

Every single day of that month. Sex happened whenever I wanted it, for as long as I wanted it, however I wanted it. No resistance. No complaints.

Surprise, surprise.

And then he amps it up a notch (true mastery way, not asshole way) ...

I started rewarding her for putting out. I started taking her on dates again, and playing card games with her again. I'd bring her little gifts again. If she didn't put out on a given day, for any reason, I'd completely deny her any of my attention or energy.

BRAVO SIR! Operant conditioning 101: reward good behavior, punish bad. He finally Gets It.

This change in our relationship has lasted 9 months now. She's very nice to me now, gets naked whenever I want, and is super affectionate in public. I love her again, and now I feel like she loves me too. My depression is over!

And they say Red Pill is bitter. Yes, immediately after you swallow it, but the more you digest it the sweeter it gets. The comment section turned into a discussion about The Red Pill.

What's really interesting in this story, other than being yet another proof of RP concepts, is that it's very rare that someone unplugs himself without external (RP subreddits, manosphere blogs) aid, without metaphorical Morpheus. But this guy did it.

tl;dr (his own words): Ignored my wife. Worked on myself. That fixed my marriage.


[–]pahispua 395 points396 points  (78 children)

Best part of that thread is where a sub mod chimes in that he's had a tonne of reports that the OP is "advocating abuse". Sense prevails and he keeps it open for discussion.

[–]Nantafiria 327 points328 points  (41 children)

That mod's responses on the thread are great. People asre going 'wahh muh safe space' 'omg red pill so evil' and the guy just tells them no, shut up. I will remove things breaking the rules, I will mod posts going overboard, but I won't remove things just because you dislike them. He even states he dislikes the post himself, but still won't remove the post.

Kudos to that guy, he did well.

[–]68461674897051454980 72 points73 points  (3 children)

and is certainly not a relationship I would want to be in (well, okay... given our common history here, I could go for this for a couple of months before wanting to find something a little more all-around satisfying)

it's funny how beta people now, when seeing a relationship that works in black & white, get mad/sad about the dynamics. Before she was miserable, he was miserable. Now they are having sex, she's affectionate, happier, he's way happier. Yet they still reinforce the betabitch behavior in their head "WAHH ITS NOT HEALTHY". How the fuck is it not healthy? What's more all-around satisfying? She desires him, he desires her. They are affectionate and enjoy doing things together now. What is more all-around satisfying than that?

That's why these idiots will never be happy, they can't handle reality and still live in a dream world where there's a perfect relationship where everyone is happy and does whatever they want 100% of the time

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

It's the same logic as the fat people trying to say obesity is healthy. They don't want to admit to themselves that what they're doing is wrong and needs to change. In the same way most of DB is there to circlejerk, not admit they're doing something wrong and realise they need to make an actual effort to fix it. So they hate people like this OP because they fly in the face of that and show that changing your own behaviour can fix your problems, just like how "health at every size" pricks hate diets.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 93 points94 points  (33 children)

He even states he dislikes the post himself, but still won't remove the post.

Wtf is there to dislike about it? Dude is just relating his experience. Don't ever judge the crazy bitch who kicks OP when he's down but only rewards him when he's an asshole. Judge the dude who turn his life around against all odds!

[–]larrythetomato 177 points178 points  (13 children)

Wtf is there to dislike about it?

Because he took action and fixed his life, both are antithetical to deadbedrooms, a sub dedicated to whining and depression.

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    [–]PlebDestroyer 22 points23 points  (3 children)

    Hahahhaha what the actual fuck. Do people really say this?

    [–][deleted] 76 points77 points  (1 child)

    For your own health and future sanity this question will not be anwsered.

    [–]foldpak111 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    No, but that is the underlying psychology.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Putting in the hard work is oppressive. Only assholes work hard to get their lives on track. Fuck these guys who improve themselves and set the bar higher for me. I just want to sit here behind my pc crying about my non-existent sexlife and claiming the moral highground because I am NICE!

    [–]1KyfhoMyoba 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    Because he took action and fixed his life,

    And didn't talk about it or get counselling about it.

    If you didn't get counselling, it isn't really fixed.

    [–]fasterpussycatdie 47 points48 points  (1 child)

    Miserable people are like crabs in a bucket. They would rather see others just as miserable as themselves and will rationalize all kinds of excuses to do so. People are ego invested in their own way of life so the fact that the guy employed TRP principles and his marriage, wife and life are in a better place....

    It must be something else.

    [–]Nantafiria 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Hey, if he dislikes it, that's on him, I'm not going to harp on him for disagreeing with something. It's his dislike for the post but his refusal to remove it that impresses me.

    [–]Squeezymypenisy 21 points22 points  (12 children)

    I'm more amazed that someone said the redpill is dumb because its name is taken from a shit movie. Last I checked the matrix was studied in college classes and was one of the top rated movies of all time.

    [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (10 children)

    Matrix actually comes from the Latin "mater" meaning mother, and the later middle English for "womb". The movie title is aptly named because the plugged-in are effectively incubated in the generated world - with the unusual side meaning from mathematics : a rank 2 tensor / linear operator / grid of numbers. It's conveniently an excellent metaphor for the manosphere too because of the female connotations - and of course the RedPill/BluePill scene. That whole film is laced with brilliant metaphors.

    [–]alpha_n3rd 6 points7 points  (9 children)

    I wish it was laced with a logical fucking reason for why the machines kept the humans alive at all when they could get all the fucking electricity they want from nuclear and/or renewable sources while the amount of electricity you can generate from humans is insignificant plus you have to feed them house them and dispose of their shit and build a damn matrix and run the risk of some asshat breaking out and destroying it.

    [–]Kill_Your_Ego 19 points20 points  (2 children)

    The story was originally that humans were kept alive to serve as memory and processing network nodes but they changed it because they thought that people are too stupid to understand a concept that simple.

    [–]1 TRP SupporterFred_Flintstone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    There was actually a very good explanation for this.

    Initially it was scripted such that humans were kept alive by the robots so that their brains could be used as computers. This was marginally forward thinking for 2001, when we didnt have Machine Learning and Big Data as household terms. The public rarely thought of brains as types of computers.

    But the producers were worried the concept was too difficult for audiences to grasp. And Duracell offered them a fat sum of money for a product placement. So they instead did the scene with morpheus holding a Duracell battery and telling Neo that humans were just for energy.

    [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    They dislike it because he treats his wife like a sex servant. The prevalent mindset (apart from "go away with your TRP crap") is "there has to be another way!"

    [–]jakethesnake76 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    It's actually all about respect..

    [–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 58 points59 points  (5 children)

    I laughed out loud when I read that. The butthurt from feminists and white knights whenever a RP concept achieves results is almost palpable.

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      [–]coffee_and_lumber 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      I see that here sometimes. However, in this case, we're talking about a guy's wife. He realized that since she wasn't responding to him as he liked that he would take it upon himself to change, instead of going 'round and 'round with blaming her or engaging in useless therapy that pretty much only sides with the woman. The only "mental issue" at work here is the woman following her natural biology once the man follows his. We've shown this to be a pretty consistent phenomenon here.

      [–]1wakethfkupneo[S] 91 points92 points  (8 children)

      Bluepill brigade got a massive butthurt. The real beauty of this story is that guy is 100% genuine:

      • long history of ranting about sexless life
      • shits on counseling as a goto bluepill solution
      • applies clean RP solution when it's clear from comments he had no idea about the existence of TRP
      • gets spectacular results
      • thread is overwhelmed with "... red pill ... red pill .... red pill ..."

      [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 52 points53 points  (3 children)

      applies clean RP solution when it's clear from comments he had no idea about the existence of TRP

      I too can pretend on the internet that I have no clue about TRP.

      However, that guy has a (short) history of posting frustrated stuff regarding his dead bedroom, his suicidal thoughts and his alcoholism, then he took a 2 year-hiatus, and then he resurfaced while having his love life turned around. So unless he really played a long con, it's extremely unlikely he's pretending.

      [–]life_manager 26 points27 points  (1 child)

      Pretend?? Last time I mentioned RP I was threatened to be DOXXED to my family and work for "bigoted views." Ironically, that was their moral high-ground.. to threaten me.

      [–]RealRational 24 points25 points  (0 children)

      lol, that's the great thing about concepts that work. In the end it doesn't matter how many people hate them, if they work, more and more people will start using them.

      [–]GarandTheftAvto 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      You touched on my favorite part of the story, other than confirmation of a lot of our RP philosophy.

      His story just appears so goddamn TRUE and verifiable based on the long post history. It really comes through how much pain he was in and how hard he really turned it around.

      [–][deleted] 147 points148 points  (14 children)

      It won't stay open long if redpillers continue to flood the comments with RP terminology...

      Gents, please stop. Let that thread alone, that it may remain and become a shining beacon for the poor chumps of that sub in need of real help. There are now enough hints in the comment section as to where they will find it...

      [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 39 points40 points  (0 children)

      I concur, there's a lot of TRP spread around.

      Personally I think some of the probably non-TRP comments may be more valuable to them because they don't obviously push an agenda. Like

      • the one from the guy who did the same but said that he had emotionally checked out and divorced her
      • the one from the woman who did the same but said that even though her man started desiring her again (which he didn't before even though she ostensibly took care of herself), but her saying that her attraction to him has been poisoned by his constant refusal
      • the one from the guy who started to do the same but isn't sure how it will pan out because his wife starts becoming more adverserial and hostile instead of folding right of the bat; and there's a real chance that she'll leave him

      All these accounts have in common that we have people who, instead of wallowing in their depression, turned their lives around and ultimately separation either happened or is on the horizon - but the message that these posts broadcast is pretty clear: (a) you can make things better by working on yourself and (b) you don't need an abusive partner, heck, you actually don't want an abusive partner even when (s)he complies once you successfully dreaded him/her or managed to reignite your attraction otherwise.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 18 points19 points  (11 children)

      I agree with you. But I also don't think it's going to stop for a very simple reason: men are waking up.

      For example, I'm not sure of the exact metrics but in the last week or so we've had about a thousand new subscribers join. The mods will be better placed to give you the figures. That's no joke.

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        [–]M3_Drifter 10 points11 points  (6 children)

        This sub has gotten just about 5k new subscribers every single month month since November 2013. Nothing is heating up, but progress is steady, if the goal is to have as many subscribers as possible. I am not sure about that.

        • 20k - Nov 4, 2013
        • 30k - Jan 6, 2014 (63 days later)
        • 40k - Mar 6, 2014 (59 days)
        • 50k - May 9, 2014 (61 days)
        • 60k - Jul 2, 2014 (54 days)
        • 70k - Sep 2, 2014 (62 days)
        • 80k - Oct 31, 2014 (59 days)
        • 90k - Jan 4, 2015 (65 days)
        • 100k - Mar 4, 2015 (59 days)
        • 110k - May 3, 2015 (projection) (60 days)

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        Looks like we're probably less than two weeks away from overtaking /r/Mensrights as the premiere male-oriented sub on Reddit

        [–]Jordoom 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        Which is probably for the best. I don't fundamentally disagree with it, but the atmosphere was a bit too whiny the last time I was in there.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Thanks. In the last week alone (14th - 21st) we've had 1159 new subscribers

        [–]RPthrowaway123 25 points26 points  (0 children)

        So a man getting what he wants in his relationship = advocating abuse now? What a load of shit!

        [–]garlicextract 10 points11 points  (2 children)

        the best part is when people mention TRP. the OP responds with "?" and people say 'its a shitlord sub that advocates doing [what OP did].

        OP simply responds with "Oh. Neat."

        [–]brannana 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        No, the best part is that a common suggestion in that sub is for the guys to read & apply "The Married Man Sex Life", which is essentially TRP without the 'never get married' piece. Right down to a lot of the same terminology and everything.

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        [–][deleted] 213 points214 points  (9 children)

        Technically, they are referencing the withholding of attention by the husband and calling it abuse. Women recognise it instantly because its the main item in their playbook.

        [–][deleted] 110 points111 points  (4 children)

        "The silent treatment"

        Personally as an introvert, I love it when girls try to pull this shit to spite me. Like, hey thanks for the vacation!

        [–]lobstergenocide 30 points31 points  (0 children)

        Could not agree more. I think one very important part of the Red Pill is playing to your strengths. There seems to be this idea that only the loud and boisterous extroverted types can pick up girls, but that's not true at all. So long as you have the confidence, silent stoicism can work just as well, sometimes even better.

        [–]BooksofMagic 22 points23 points  (2 children)

        For women, that's where the abuse started. For men, it was from the two previous posts.

        [–]2IVIaskerade 27 points28 points  (3 children)

        The sort of people in dead bedrooms cannot concieve of this not being abuse. If it was just a normal, mundane, relatively easy fix for their problems, they would be forced to admit that they were failures, that their lack of a good relationship is their fault. They cannot do this, since it would involve admitting fault, something most people are remarkably unable to do.

        Combine that with the common misconceptions about TRP, and you've got an easy exit for the hamster to run for.

        [–]blacwidonsfw 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        Haha exactly. You should look at my comment history. Some guy says that sub is a redpill echo chamber. I said maybe because it works. His response. "I'm only in this sub because my wife admitted her intimacy problems are 99% her *fault."

        [–]RealRational 52 points53 points  (2 children)

        Any time anyone is putting out positivity, happiness, strength, improvement, and there are people reacting negatively to that positivity; you know those people are dirt. Misery loves company, and they are miserable, so anyone achieving happiness must be evil. Because if they're not evil, then the dirt people must be, and their ego (solipsism) would never allow that.

        [–]SwissPablo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        It's not emotional abuse if both parties are getting what they want from the relationship. It's so elegant!

        [–]meet_me_at_high_noon 239 points240 points  (68 children)

        Ha some of the comments on there are truly incredible. People are having a happy, sexual relationship. Woman has the man she wanted, man has the woman he wanted, and people are calling it abuse. Amazing.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 283 points284 points  (42 children)

        I've noticed a strange double standard among a lot of redditors.

        Woman withholds sex from her husband, making him feel unloved and unwanted? Not abuse.

        Guy responds to lack of sex by withholding attention and support from his wife? OMG EMOTIONAL ABUSE!

        [–]Redrog1 169 points170 points  (23 children)

        You are just an example of rape culture with your sex entitlement. Rape happens because people like you believes a women can be pressured into sex, but that's rape. Did I mentioned rape? Rape.

        [–]sweetleef 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        YOU ARE TRIGGERING ME SHITLORD.

        [–]kalstate 24 points25 points  (12 children)

        You sir, are one goddam funny son of a bitch...Can I buy you a beer?

        [–]Redrog1 20 points21 points  (11 children)

        Sure, send me some bitcoins and I'll have one on you.

        [–][deleted] 92 points93 points  (6 children)

        Aaah the old bitcoin for a beer rape.

        [–]trrrrouble 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        not sure if I have any remaining in this account and whether i remember the bot syntax

        +/u/changetip all verify

        [–]TheRealMouseRat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        I'm sorry, you have to say rape a couple more times. I'll do it for you: Rape rape rape. There we go, now it should be ok.

        [–]ModAerobus 15 points16 points  (2 children)

        This is literally the BP mentality. Go to PPD and you will see them act like this On second thought, don't go there.

        [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        That entire sub:

        RP: Do this and it will work and you will be more successful

        BP: Yeah but feeeeelz

        [–]americanmook 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        No one ever brings up stats there when arguing against a red piller.

        [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (4 children)

        It's almost as if we live in a gynocentric culture or something

        [–]coffee_and_lumber 28 points29 points  (3 children)

        Nuh uh! Women only get 77 cents to every dollar that a man does! And all the laws are skewed so there's no incentive for a woman to get married.

        [–]WarsmithOrgruk 13 points14 points  (2 children)

        I can confirm that 77c/1$ is taught as curriculum in college classes that are happening this semester.

        Also, when that same class addressed intimate partner abuse as they called it, ALL the statistics were for women. There was no statistics or information or ANYTHING about the possibility of men being abused by their wives.

        [–]coffee_and_lumber 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        The abuse that is inflicted the most on men is not the kind that sends them to the hospital. Hell, even then, we would not be encouraged to admit it.

        [–]ReddishTablet 13 points14 points  (1 child)

        There was something along the lines of this on askwomen post yesterday titled "If you discovered your SO was much more "romantic" in previous relationships, would you care?"

        Pretty much the opposite of when you see the situations of girls are bored riding the CC and find a beta and settle down. They then don't do any of the crazy(or even a simple thing like a BJ) sexual acts that they did in the past. Thinking about the relationship post that was posted on here recently about a guy finding out his wife was crazy in the sack before him but never did the stuff with him and also she lied about her sexual experience.

        Pretty much the overwhelming majority said it would bother them if the guy was more romantic in a previous relationship... I would bet a big sum that most of them would have no sympathy for a guy who had a partner who was holding back on things she did with other partners.

        They say men aren't entitled to sex but then can't see it the other way when they feel entitled to romantic gestures for them.

        [–]newls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        They say men aren't entitled to sex but then can't see it the other way when they feel entitled to romantic gestures for them.

        That's because modern western culture, including movies, books, and sitcoms, have all framed the commitment and romantic stuff (men's product) as "good" and the sex stuff (women's product) as not "bad" per se but not as "good".

        Problem is guys buy into that too and become white knights. They're so unaware and prone to messing up shit tests that they have no idea they're literally making themselves more and more beta provider in their women's eyes.

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          [–]Redrog1 27 points28 points  (2 children)

          Anita Sarkesian already did it.

          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          She definitely knew her target audience, feminazi's and white knights, lol

          [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          She's a genius if you think about it. Even when her scam is so obvious her victims still support her. That's a very skilled con artist.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Amazing observation. I commented in that thread and was told that husband was sooooo manipulative. As if he should accept a sexless life because.....femail primacy says so

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 48 points49 points  (8 children)

          and people are calling it abuse.

          Because the truth of human sexual dynamics (where women are happily subservient to a strong man) threatens the power dynamic they've spend decades building (where women can extract everything they need from men without having to give anything in return).

          It really just amounts to laziness.

          [–]_fappycamper 21 points22 points  (7 children)

          Honestly, I doubt there is a secret evil plot here. Just men forgot how to be men, that's all.

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 22 points23 points  (1 child)

          Laziness isn't an evil plot. The achievement of maximum resources using minimum effort is the intrinsic goal of all living things.

          If we could get hot bitches without working out and working hard, we'd happily live as fat, unmotivated wastrels.

          [–]Iramohs 8 points9 points  (2 children)

          Men allowed women to condition men into forgetting how to be men.

          [–]MHOOD01 17 points18 points  (1 child)

          You mean men forgot how to teach men how to be men.

          That whole 'women should've kept men in-check,' no motherfucker, you have to be a man. What you want is your woman to be a man just like you, and have a dick while acting like a woman. Just like if your woman nags you to do something, but she also wants you to do the million dollar deal at your job, but there can only be one: take out the trash or do the million dollar deal, you will not get both.

          What has happened is men forgot how to be men and women decided that they are going to have to drop the feminine role and play the masculine role. I can't even blame them.

          No woman wants to get fucked by a man that acts like a bitch.

          [–]justtookit 68 points69 points  (8 children)

          If these people had healthy concepts of relationships, they'd have healthy relationships. Instead, they're in /r/DeadBedrooms.

          [–]grimreaperx2 9 points10 points  (5 children)

          Unfortunately logic doesn't work on everyone. OP's woes are finally solved by applying Red Pill methods and everyone shits themselves. I mean wtf is the point of that subreddit then?

          [–]coffee_and_lumber 15 points16 points  (3 children)

          I mean wtf is the point of that subreddit them?

          Only taking advice that agrees with peoples' existing worldview. And giving advice based on that same shitty worldview.

          [–]Kyuzo_ 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          Do what you've always done, you'll get what you always got.

          No wonder they're all perpetually fucked

          [–]twistyquasar2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          actually they arent fucked thats tey are on r/deadbedrooms

          [–]1iluminatiNYC 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Um... That woman was abuse, point blank period. If they put it on the guy, they're jerks.

          [–]Venicedreaming 8 points9 points  (1 child)

          A lot of RP folks have bitter experiences with women, hence the disconnection. Most of the world out there have no cross with each other, some people are in perfectly happy relationships with no drama, so RP strikes them as such an odd way to view life and genders. Sure there are unhappy people who would be gladly be willing to swallow the pill, but I'm talking about a large majority who are perfectly content with life. That's why people understand RP as abuse, if that makes sense

          [–]riverraider69 65 points66 points  (0 children)

          The most beautiful thing is that OP posted the first two threads back when /r/theredpill didn't even exist. You can't say he's a RP troll or a madeup story. He really is a guy who used to post more in suicidewatch and is now happy.

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            [–]coffee_and_lumber 18 points19 points  (1 child)

            Sticking with something you've volunteered to subject yourself to despite it feeling bad is a predominately male trait.

            [–]lewd_crude_dude 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Because women can never accept blame.

            Everything is everybody else's fault, women are perfect. /s

            [–]sweetleef 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            A wedding planner doesn't take suggestions from the groom, either. A therapist knows who the customer and the motivation for the counselling is, and that the money is in feeding her fantasy rather than resolving the conflict.

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              [–]_eskimo_brothers_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              I was pretty shocked and horrified at reading about the counselor line too. Hell I could imagine myself in that situation sitting in the comfortable chair or couch and standing up saying, you want to what? medicate my natural male physiology that is healthy and is simply has desire and the need to have sex with my wife? There are mental AND physical connections between us, as a man, I need the physical contact, it's human. Then unzip, say something along the lines of: "So, perhaps you've forgotten men have these" and smack him in the face with it. - Maybe not this last part.

              I thought most decent couples counselors were actually there to help both people, although most will focus on the woman, be it that she is the one who really wanted to go, or that she may have underlying issues. It almost doesn't seem real that a counselor would suggest DRUGS to lower one's libido. Guys have more testosterone, thus will usually have a high libido/sex drive as long as they are healthy and active.

              Women who have their own hormones out of whack, or something chemically/physically out of balance should always be checked first. Even that though as we all know here isn't the simple solution. If you don't create the tingles then the stream will be dry. But again something they don't even know about inside of them could prevent this, which is a real shame because they actually don't have total control of their own desire. I've known older woman who went through a phase or two where their hormones made them downright scary, and needed hormones to get them back to safe levels. Other women do not however seek to find out their own levels, and along with life choices makes them simply believe their unstable emotions are normal, which in turn scares away most men.

              [–]1Sergnb 8 points9 points  (4 children)

              a number of comments in that sub are surprisingly supportive of TRP. are we witnessing a gradual awakening?

              TRP ideas are typically supported amongst a high number of people... if you don't ever mention the words "red pill", that is. Use other kind of language and suddenly everything is logical and makes sense.

              You'd be surprised by the amount of people that hate on TRP and have no idea how to recognize a TRP-esque post when they see it. They think 90% of posts around here start with "women are evil" and end with "do you even lift".

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                [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                Have you considered not having needs?

                Reminds me of this.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 36 points37 points  (0 children)

                I love good dread game porn. I've got a raging dread boner right now.

                [–]laere 105 points106 points  (39 children)

                Good post. I am happy that this guy used his anger to fuel self-improvement, instead of loathing around and waiting for a solution.

                However, on another note, I don't know whether I am angry or just fucking livid from reading this:

                The counselor's advice amounted to something like "So you're horribly depressed because you have needs which aren't being met. Have you considered not having needs?". At one point he floated the idea of trying to get me a libido lowering drug. He was 100% on my wife's side of everything.

                Libido lowering drug!? /SMH

                How the fuck can this be a serious fucking solution? Like are you fucking kidding me? A man wants to fuck his wife, and this dipshit wants to prescribe him a libido reduction-esque drug? God damn I thought things were bad but this just pisses me off. How the hell do these faggots become doctors/counselors. And how the fuck can they prescribe a man this sort of drug as a solution to a "no sex" problem. Un-fucking-believable.

                /rant

                [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 98 points99 points  (5 children)

                A marriage counselor will lose a valuable repeat customer if he actually fixes the problem.

                [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (4 children)

                True, but I also have no trouble believing that the counselor may just be incompetent.

                [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 37 points38 points  (1 child)

                Grey's Law: Any sufficiently-advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

                [–]Jokoran 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Holy shit. This is hilariously amazing.

                [–]brannana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Just from the information in the post, it sure looks like the therapist is incompetent. Of course, most therapy disciplines don't require specialized training in couple's issues, so technically they're practicing outside their competency. Hell, some disciplines will grant licensure without any clinical experience at all!

                [–]n0xin 44 points45 points  (5 children)

                I had a similar experience, except with suggesting antidepressants instead of antilibido. I'm not against responsible medication, but I found it to be incredibly one-sided to suggest that my mood was what needed adjusting, not the relationship itself.

                I ended up saying to my ex: You like everything in your life except me; and the only thing I like in my life is myself. I'm not willing to spend any more time and energy letting you and our marriage counselor make me feel like I'm broken and worthless. I'm filing for divorce.

                She didn't believe I'd leave; when I did, she told me how much she wanted me back. I filed, and left town. Even to this day, friends and family make it seem like it was my fault for walking away. I guess that's the blue pill culture -- in their minds, I should have taken some medication so that I would be obeisant in a dead marriage while providing all the income and stability but receiving no sex or affection. Makes sense right?

                A few years later, I'm in a LTR with a woman now who is almost text-book RPW. Captain / First Mate dynamic, great communication, and copious amounts of crazy sex. I am positive I would never have gotten here without TRP.

                [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                Reminds me of the relationship of a friend of mine that had devolved into a DB-situation towards its end. When he broke up for good (after she had implicitly threatened to break up countless times before), she was seriously dumbfounded and couldn't grasp how he could leave her because after all, she loved him more than anything yadda yadda yadda. Bitch.

                [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                antidepressants instead of antilibido

                Same thing. SSRIs will kill your dick. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what this guy was offered too.

                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                You're a fine example of what this place is trying to help people achieve, the captain/first mate dynamic, while at the same time, TAKING BACK YOUR LIFE. Letting YOU live it on YOUR terms.

                [–]1independentmale 30 points31 points  (4 children)

                Counselors are much more than completely worthless. They're downright fucking dangerous.

                Ex wife dragged me to various counselors for years. She was prone to firing them on a whim and making excuses as to why, though I eventually realized it was the moment they said anything positive about me or suggested there were areas she could work on, too. She was basically shopping for someone to tell her what she wanted to hear and she eventually found it in a male white knight religious "counselor" (with no formal training) at a local church.

                This fucking schmuck... The ex had done her typical rant about how I control her with money and won't let her have nice things. Truth of the matter is she wanted dressage horses and acres of land with stables and a big truck and horse trailer with built in camper to take them to shows and on and on and yours truly didn't have a quarter mil just laying the fuck around to blow on that dumb shit.

                Do you know what this prick told me? "Buy it anyway. Borrow the money at any cost. Your wife isn't happy. This is your wife we're talking about here, if a little debt will save your marriage, I can't understand why you wouldn't do that." The bitch sat there with a smirk on her stupid face like she'd won the fucking lottery.

                I responded harshly. White knight got an earful about what his own Bible says about debt (nothing good) and how dare he sit in this church and claim to be a Christian while advocating for actions in direct contradiction with his own holy book and so on. All the while he made dismissive faces to me, rolled his eyes, shrugged his shoulders and gave my wife those knowing glances as if to say, "I sympathize with you."

                When I finished yelling I stormed the fuck out, refused to pay for the session and told ex wife I was never attending another marital counseling session and if she wanted to go by herself she damn well better get a job because I wasn't going to let another penny out of my paycheck go to these sucker fish.

                [–]foldpak111 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                Of course she doesn't have a job. I just laugh at these people. They can laugh, they can talk shit, they can cry in the corner like a little troll, they can make a Facebook post about it. I am a dominant man that has put in my 10,000 hours learning the reality in which the world we live in. So that means I am more qualified than these people when it comes to making life choices. I also give myself permission (not a permission boy), and I could kick your ass, so sit the fuck down, white knight.

                [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                Unbelieveably bad advice from that counselor. It’s easy to give that sort of advice when you’re not forking out the dough.

                Here’s some better advice:

                http://www.returnofkings.com/16904/avoid-women-with-horses

                [–]newls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Funnily enough I actually stumble upon RoK articles most frequently on my Facebook feed when girls share them all like "Oh my god is this guy actually serious!?"

                I think it terrifies them so much that someone actually publishes all this stuff warning guys about how they're unsuitable LTR material. I bet that 90% of their social media shares are from the feminist/SJW crowd.

                I think that specific article has a good point. I think the main idea is that horse girls aren't LTR material. Those beta provider slaves guys are completely at their wives' whims.

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                  [–]skoobled 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                  This makes perfect sense of you wholesale buy into that the woman is always the victim and the man is always to blame

                  [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                  Blue pill thinking is pervasive. That's why. Men swallow it, and women don't even realize why they're unhappy, or why they're single.

                  [–]Frdl 12 points13 points  (5 children)

                  The marriage counselor has probably seen enough of this to know that the tingles are gone. Libido suppression, and eventual castration, are the only viable options.

                  [–]Kyuzo_ 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                  The way the poster summed it up seems to be the best description of marriage counseling I've seen yet:

                  "It seems like you have needs that aren't being met. Have you tried not having needs?"

                  That line is pure gold

                  [–]troll_bends_fir 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                  That's a pretty good way to do it, offer the extreme options.

                  You will either shock the "boy" into becoming a man again, or finish his transformation.

                  [–]Hoodwink 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  I highly doubt this is actually the method in any sense..

                  And that's why it's actually monstrous - not some kind of 'Judgement of Solomon'-esque response.

                  [–]redpilltaste 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                  They get through the gatekeepers when at university/college. All the gatekeeper academics in my psychology degree who chose those for selection to become grad psychs chose only those who agreed with their values. That is, that all men are evil and only a world run by women was acceptable, anything else was evil.

                  [–]krakosia 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                  "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" --Upton Sinclair

                  http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/u/uptonsincl138285.html

                  And another one tangentially related

                  “Institutions will try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution.” -- Clay Shirky

                  http://kk.org/thetechnium/2010/04/the-shirky-prin/

                  Counseling, feminism are all the same. If the core problem they purport to be solving gets solved then there is no need for the movement/organization/role. So the problem needs to persist.

                  [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  Pretty much sums up the DEA too.

                  [–]Niketi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  It's astonishing that somebody who's supposed to be a professional in human relations is that far off the mark. The power of feminist indoctrination. I don't want to think about how many anaesthetised doped up men are walking around out there like zombies wondering why their wives divorced raped them after they chemically castrated themselves to make her happy.

                  [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                  True, the part with the counselor pissed me off far more than the year-long emotional abuse by his wife. She wasn't attracted to him anymore and lacked the decency to do something about it.

                  The guy on the other hand was supposed to be a fucking professional and help finding a solution. Seriously, I hope that guy ends up in a similar situation with his wife, but I wouldn't be too surprised if he'd actually take his own advice.

                  [–]Chuckit_ 58 points59 points  (3 children)

                  The comments... some of these fuckers deserve a deadbedroom. Their wives must be half mad with horny.

                  [–]noLoveonlyWar 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                  It's worse, they're getting only half the cock they want. It's just a tease for them because they know they're not fucking a real man. Sex with their loser just makes them pine more for alpha cock.

                  Maybe.

                  [–]RojoEscarlata 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Their wives must be half mad with horny.

                  Most of the women in a "death bedroom" will seek strange cock ASAP, unless their physical features impediment them to (very ugly or very fad)

                  [–]chrisindub 23 points24 points  (2 children)

                  Did you notice how everything the husband did was quickly labeled as "abuse,"

                  But the wife who did all of the initial abusing gets a pass and is the "victim?"

                  So predictable

                  [–]Totsean 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Pussy pass, it exists everywhere, even they're the abusers.

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                  [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (3 children)

                  I'm picturing a legion of RPer's around the world banging their desks,chests,dashboards,worktops making loud,approving monkey noises at our Lazarus buddy who made the changes to his life.

                  [–]muddynips 11 points12 points  (2 children)

                  He has ascended.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Synchronicity.

                  I watched this last week for the first time.

                  [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (5 children)

                  Someone said the word red pill....and got 90 upvotes instead of an insta perma ban. See that shit?

                  [–]RPthrowaway123 19 points20 points  (4 children)

                  I was amazed at that too. Even the mod refused to ban it, saying that obviously this was a topic people want to discuss and they won't silence it. I'm frankly blown away by the reasonableness of it all.

                  [–]newls 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                  There was an AskReddit post the other day about male strippers and bachelorette parties. The top comments were male strippers who both agreed that women at these parties, especially the brides-to-be, thought they could get away with touching them and whatnot just because they were women.

                  Fucking dozens of comments were deleted except for the very top few comments from the strippers themselves. I don't think the mods and admins delete posts that are gilded. I wouldn't be surprised if they deleted the whole post though.

                  I read loads of quite reasonable and inoffensive comments legitimately recognising how shitty this behaviour was from the women specifically when you square it with how most people react to people cheating. But you'd refresh the page and see another ten of them deleted. And over and over again.

                  [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                  Suddenly the trees were not so tall anymore, he was overlooking the forest.

                  That, my friends, is how you become a giant.

                  [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                  Look what one of those manginas wrote...

                  How unfortunate that this supposed support sub-reddit frequented by both men and women suffering from lack of sex has become infiltrated by Redpillers. The mods seriously need to do something about this, or else women are not going to feel comfortable sharing here.

                  [–]ConcealingFate 12 points13 points  (8 children)

                  I'm afraid to go to the gym because I'm a beginner and even if I watched tons of youtube videos on proper form, I still haven't gone mainly because I care too much about other people even though it seems like gym people are usually super friendly.

                  But I've had enough now, I've read enough stories of people starting working out and seeing life improvements over a long time span. I am ready to accept that. I'll see you on the other side.

                  [–]vzhu 24 points25 points  (3 children)

                  Here's something to wrap your head around to get you less anxious:

                  Nobody in the gym gives a flying fuck whatever you're doing unless they need to work in with you.

                  Good luck.

                  [–]ConcealingFate 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                  It's mainly a ''I've never been there before'' kind of anxiety. But as I'm typing this, I am on the way to the gym. No more excuses.

                  [–]foldpak111 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                  Realize that your blue pill programming made you narcissistic. No one gives a fuck about you

                  [–]Dyalibya 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                  I don't think that lifting is that complicated, most of the stuff should come naturally to you

                  gym people are usually super friendly

                  We are .......most of the time, you know why? because everyone at the gym was once a beginner on their first day

                  Finally, if you absolutely can't go to a gym, then you could easily buy some free wights, you would be amazed how much you can accomplish with a bar and adjustable dumbbells

                  [–]RPthrowaway123 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Take the plunge my friend, it's worth it!

                  [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  If you have the space get a bench with adjustable squat racks, a barbell, and some weights. You can do Stronglifts 5x5 at the house.

                  [–]TeasingPenguin 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                  The counselor's advice amounted to something like "So you're horribly depressed because you have needs which aren't being met. Have you considered not having needs?"

                  At one point he floated the idea of trying to get me a libido lowering drug. He was 100% on my wife's side of everything.

                  The parts in bold are the most shocking yet not surprising points of this post, why is it seen as okay to basically castrate men?

                  Some men won't know any better and will listen to this advice and be terribly depressed if he is told he needs to be on some T suppressing drug, most men today have low T as it is.

                  [–]Riddick_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Why is it OK to castrate men? Because. Men are also castrated [and castrate themselves] with 24/7 videogames, porn everyday, weed, booze by the case and nachos / corn feed / junk food and sugary drinks. That elusive pussy, cars and money comes in the form of a promise of a lifetime supply of giant carrots. BBs taste the product, but that shipment never arrives. That pussy is always on the horizon, like a Rainbow, but you BBs can't touch that. Sign that dotted line... Nope.

                  And Yes, today the majority of these so called "men" DO NOT know any better and never will. BB are made, and are bound to invisible mental chains, they have no idea know how enslaved they are. What real life is. To them nothing is real. Everything is a dream. These guys are sleepwalking through life. Sleepwalking! [edit] Western Culture tm has already approved the castration of men...

                  What is Real? RP guys know - Once you grow a set, and start pushing your boundaries and destroying limiting beliefs, you see real progress and real results.

                  [–]vzhu 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                  A whole lot of fuckers forgetting about rule 1.

                  [–]1Ronin11A 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  People get the fucking evangelical bug and then can't help themselves. They can't just lead by example.

                  [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                  I really don't understand how any subscriber to relationships and deadbedrooms can ridicule any advise in those subs. They are there because their relationships suck and nothing they try is making it better. How would you even know those subs exist if you don't have bad relationships??

                  It's like the fat fuck at the gym critiquing an olympic athletes training program.

                  [–]cmiovino 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                  This is a truly inspiring story.

                  [–]rp-disciple 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  Amusing that ppl keep pushing he's being RP & the guy is clueless what it is or even means. From his history, it seems like it was a natural progression.

                  Now it's been explained & mentioned so much I think he can't help but examine this more

                  [–]Shade_Raven 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Sounds like we might have new redpillers incoming

                  [–]Poppenhoffer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Why doesn't anyone in the comments crying about how he's abusing her realize that he's just doing the exact same shit she did to him before he stopped giving a shit?

                  [–]1Dev_on 14 points15 points  (18 children)

                  I went through something similar with my husband. After years of being rejected by him I learned to stop caring. I ignored him and developed my own interests and hobbies. I started caring more for my appearance- not that I ever let it lag much, but I did make a renewed effort. It took a long time but out of the blue he suddenly couldn't leave me alone and was begging for sex.

                  The sad thing is, by that point the rejection had poisoned my attraction for him so I couldn't respond in turn (though I consent when he asks, but I no longer initiate. Ever.). You're lucky you're still attracted to your wife after so many years of her abusive attitude.

                  They say men chase what runs but maybe women do too.

                  something to think about

                  [–]nessfalco 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                  The sad part is that probably all he wanted was for her to do that in the first place. If he didn't, she would be worse off, yet she resents him for it.

                  I had an ex that resented me for giving her shit when she didn't work out-- she always complained about how she looked, about 15-20 lbs over where she should have been. Guess what the first thing she tried to do after we broke up was?

                  [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  Of course they do. Both males and females are hard wired to think "Who runs away from you probably has a higher SMV than you".

                  [–]1Dev_on 15 points16 points  (11 children)

                  Also... I swear to god I am going to have to subscribe to most of these subs, just to downvote every idiot in here who keeps talking TRP there.

                  Seriously, fuck you guys, you're why I can't post in a sub without some idiot throwing your bullshit in my face

                  [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                  Whatever lol. I posted a guideline in dead bedrooms to kill a dead bedroom and it had no rp language. No one have it credit but I didn't expect them to

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                    [–]postupandchill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    lol just got done reading the comments from the original thread... funny, funny stuff. I love it when people get all butthurt about trp on those threads... it only ends up sending more people here. They investigate and some of them wake up. many are called, few are chosen.

                    [–]Billybob25112 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                    The Alpha is born. Nothing can stop him now.

                    This statement is so accurate it actually gave me chills. Once you get a taste of what it actually means to be a man you become addicted. You struggle and you persevere, and if you don't you struggle harder. Fuck giving up.

                    The spark you light today will become a forest fire tomorrow and nothing will stop it because nothing can. The alpha train has no breaks.

                    [–]Kings2387 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Peering into the dead bedrooms thread only reinforces my view that dead bedrooms is meant to be a 'poor me' circle jerk of misery. Not about fixing problems.

                    The reaction to TRP success is hilarious. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

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                    [–]TheAloofCat 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                    I have to disagree with the fact that is rare that people unplug themselves without aid. If that were the case, I don't think this reddit nor the PUA community would exist.

                    Some men stay plugged all their lives, others just get fed up with the brainwashing shit like this man, give the world the finger and after some time, those that have improved their SMV start seeing changes.

                    [–]1wakethfkupneo[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                    I have to disagree with the fact that is rare that people unplug themselves without aid. If that were the case, I don't think this reddit nor the PUA community would exist.

                    My point was that he reached the rock bottom -> said "fucked this shit" -> and picked the perfect tool (heavy iron) to solve his problem, completely on his own, not because someone told him to.

                    What majority of us do: have a problem -> try to solve it conventional way -> start googling for some answers -> eventually stumble upon "red pill" -> decide to give it a try "let's hope these guys know what they're talking about".

                    [–]cariboo_j 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                    If my wife made me feel so shitty I was considering suicide, I'd probably just nuke the relationship.

                    Yeah you could improve yourself and jump through hoops to get her to respect you again, but who's got time for people that ignore you and treat you like shit?

                    After seeing the ugliness of her character it's almost better to be like "welp fuck it". If she treats him that poorly once (even though he was lacking in certain areas), that just shows the shallowness of her feelings and supposed care for him.

                    I suppose it's a success story in that he's getting laid again, but it also reveals some ugly truths about how many shits she gives about his happiness (hint: zero. It's all about how he makes her feel.) Not to mention her level of self awareness.

                    [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                    From the comments:

                    To all those who can't wrap their minds around this: this is called no longer being taken for granted or a chump.

                    Though I assume the guy who wrote this is redpill-aware or at least came to RP-compatible conclusions, here's what I wrote about dread to a bluepiller (card-carrying sort):

                    The problem here is also one of semantics - "dread" sounds more catchy, but that way it's prone to be equated with terror, threats and blackmail, especially in here (though admittedly inside the redpill community it's also predominantly used as such).

                    To illustrate the fundamental function of dread, let's simply put it on its head: The absence of "dread" is "taking your SO for granted". And this is to be taken literally - it doesn't just mean "relying on your SO" or "trusting your SO" (which are positive things and in an ideal relationship should both be a given and justified). Someone who takes his partner for granted, who can't imagine him/her actually leaving or just asserting him/herself, who stops appreciating the efforts the partner makes (because they're perceived to be a given), who doesn't appreciate the fact that his or her efforts are enabling one to live life as it is (and can concentrate on the instances where the partner is inconveniencing him instead) - that is a person who doesn't feel dread. It may work out, but usually it only fosters complacency and, in the long run, resentment because the lack of appreciation prevents one from seeing the positive things (and believe me, I've seen it turn out exactly like that all too often to think it's just a coincidence or just extraordinarily shitty people who treat their partners like that).

                    Dread in that regard is simply the realization that your partner not being present is a real possibility and that your life would be worse without him or her (whether that feeling is justified or not); but it can also work in a different function; and it certainly doesn't necessarily entail the nuclear option of the "do that or else"-approach, but can also work at levels that are lower - a lot lower.

                    [–]DalekJay 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                    It would be better if people didn't mention TRP in the comments, let it flow normally, or else would sound like a fake story that circle jerk made up selling as true.

                    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

                    This is the only thing I want to comment on.

                    I might respect Red Pill "philosophy" even a little bit if the name wasn't taken from a shitty movie

                    How the fuck is The Matrix a shitty movie?

                    [–]Triglycerine 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                    Sequels were so shit they retroactively ruined the whole series?

                    what seque--

                    Exactly.

                    [–]1iluminatiNYC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Personally, I wouldn't have fucked the bitch with my own worse enemy's dick after that libido lowering drug BS. That's flat out abusive. Still, he got the results he wanted. Apparently his wife needed a strong pimp hand to keep the mojo going. Good work.

                    The one thing I'd say is that focusing on your hobbies is always a good thing, depression or not. You need to have something to build off of, and hobbies are a good one (working out being a given of course).

                    [–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    ibido lowering? Shit I'd send him to a Whorehouse with 2000mg of horny goat weed.

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                    [–]SwissPablo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    The wife knows that if she finds him attractive, other women will. She also knows that he could leave any time he chooses when he's not getting what he wants. That tension is what makes the magic happen.

                    [–]StarDestinyGuy 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                    Why the heck are you guys flooding that topic with RP terminology? Stop.

                    [–]johnchapel 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    This. Seriously. The concepts in redpill are pretty solid but a lot of you are faggots drenching yourself in redpill culture, never out there getting laid.

                    Seriously. stop.

                    [–]NakedAndBehindYou 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    About three months in to my new lifestyle. My wife stopped me at the door while I was leaving and said she wanted to talk. I said "I don't want to talk to you. You know what I want." and I left for the gym.

                    This is the most redpill fucking thing I've ever read.

                    [–]teradactyl2 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                    I've noticed a common theme in all of these stories. None of the success stories involve the woman "coming to her senses" and initiating sex again. It ALWAYS begins with the man making a positive change in himself. It's never about a man paying more attention to his wife.

                    Maybe, subconsciously, this is the reason RP is so vehemently hated by BPers in subs like /r/DeadBedrooms . They absolutely hate thinking that there is something wrong with themselves that's causing their absence of a sex life. They believe they are entitled to sex being just the way they are. They should get it for free without working for it. It's a male hamstering where they self-inflate their SMV.

                    They see TRP as a PUA trick, where "just learning one pickup line will get you laid". They hate it because their entire dating life is just manipulative tricks to try to get a girl to sleep with them. They're not upfront about their sexuality and they KNOW it doesn't work. They see TRP as an extension of this bullshit. If they accept TRP as having truth to it, it means they must accept that they are not sexually attractive and something is wrong with them.

                    [–]redpillersinparis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Man, this guy is legit, go read his threads from two years ago:

                    smallvictories:

                    She withheld affection again, which made me depressed and angry. I solved it by having some Rye whiskey and watching an Avengers cartoon. I didn't talk to her, and I didn't text anyone else.

                    Deadbedrooms:

                    When I try to kiss my wife, beyond head-colliding pecks, she just goes floppy, refuses to support her own weight and turns her head away. It is the most depressing, frustrating, terrible thing on earth.

                    offmychest venting about his wife:

                    You don't go to school, you don't have a job, you don't even do housework anymore. I work anywhere between 40 and 60 hours in a high stress job to support us, and you won't even do things like schedule a doctors appointment for me

                    You don't respect me, even a little bit. In public, you are demeaning, degrading, insulting and you hit me sometimes IN FUCKING PUBLIC.

                    All this was two years ago.. he has been suffering like this for 2 years. I'm generally quite skeptic about this whole RP stuff, but this guy is definitely legit

                    [–]Hedphelym1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    God dam this really makes me proud. Starting to think of this forum as a positive place now.

                    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                    In the words of Bill Burr, "she wants a guy that's fuckable to other women."

                    [–]Triglycerine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Heh, they seem to be waking up.

                    Unfortunately no not so far we are still togather but appart of that nothing change. I did however go with idea of punishing behaviour from her. I do not text her first and at day time I am okay with her but no cuddles, kisses and that shit. Apears to be working slowly becuase when I'm at work she sends me at least few text. She is still "tired" at night time but I can see that this change in behaviour is bothering her and she doesn't know how to tackle it.

                    /r/DeadBedrooms seems generally to be a very excellent proving ground for RP theory, yea.

                    Thanks for bringing this to the class's attention.

                    [–]denart4 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    Where can I read more about operant conditioning? I know what it is but how do you apply it in RP terms

                    [–]possumsquirrel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    my favorite part after reading through the comments is how the negative responses accuse him of misogyny, chauvinism, sexism, and abuse. his actions can be boiled down to two basic elements: self improvement and barter/compromise. he became the man he always wanted to be, had hobbies, became respectable and admired by his peers. at the same time he wasn't getting what he wanted out of an exchange so he didn't deliver what the other party wanted. after so long the other party began to deliver more and more on the expectations placed on them by the agreement and he began to reintroduce goods and services expected of him. you cannot get any closer to true compromise than that and aren't bluepillers always crying about compromise being so important in relationships?

                    [–]Drenmar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Hats off to that mod, even though he's plugged in (judging from his comments) he's reasonable enough not to give in to the unwarranted reports.

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Libido lowering drug…

                    I would probably get a court order to take a testosterone lowering drug after I punch that doctor in the face for making a suggestion like that. Fuck.

                    It's kind of ironic that the utter disrespect the doctor shows the man in this scenario is probably adding to the crumbling of their marriage.

                    [–]MindsetRoulette 11 points12 points  (6 children)

                    I am morally apposed to a lot of the Red Pill mentality, but what bothers me the most is how successful it can be. So I'm over here unable and unwilling to charge my moral outlook, knowing first hand that those morals are the wall preventing me from reaching the relationship goals I truely wanted.

                    [–]TW_RPAwake 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                    Im only upvoting to keep this comment from collapsing.

                    Red Pill truths are amoral. How you choose to APPLY them will filter through your lens of morality. In this sub we tend to refrain from moral judgments about how people choose to live their lives with one exception - NO ONE will tolerate real abuse. You will not find any up-voted comment encouraging violence toward women - self defense not withstanding.

                    These are truths about our primal nature. Men want to "pollenate" women want to reproduce with the best genetics. Women also want to ensure that they and their offspring have the highest chance of success, which means attaching themselves to the best resource.

                    There is nothing moral or immoral about that statement; it simply IS. We all exhibit primal traits - from hypnotically staring into campfires to children competing with each other. When you can accept that reproduction & relationships are primal too, this fits together like a puzzle.

                    [–]foldpak111 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    The only thing you're morally apposed to is reality.

                    [–]Risky_Clicks_NSFW 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    "I am only as moral as the system allows"

                    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    It's moral to believe this is what they like and refuse to offer it to them?

                    [–]MindsetRoulette 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Oh I'm not saying I'm moral right, in fact I consider it a deep seeded flaw. Just a deep seeded hangup I haven't been able to shake. Regardless of how much my So enjoys or wants it, there are certain behaviors/mentalities I feel morally apposed to. Most likely an over reaction to too much abusive men and I walled off anything I felt was too close in that direction. Not saying Red Pill is abusive at all, just my youthful reaction.

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