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Remember the girl who dumped her boyfriend because he lacked "ambition" but was secretly loaded with cash, well here's the update from the same girl (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by MAX_Fury

Thanks to One_friendship_plz for finding this. This post comes from another subreddit, I'm sure you can guess which one.

Summary

In 2014 I went through a pretty bad break-up. I met Will at a NYE party hosted by a friend-of-a-friend and we dated for 10ish months. I loved him - it was probably the best relationship I'd had on a 'personal connection' level - but he had been dishonest about some things (not infidelity - 'life' things) and it led to us breaking up. I couldn't come to terms with his lying by omission - it seemed like he threw away our relationship over nothing.

She blames Will (the guy who is loaded) for ending the relationship because it was obviously his fault that he didn't share his money on her. Like we all know, it's never her fault, she's the victim here.

I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious......just all-around happy and patiently waiting for Mr. Right to come along.

So she fucked random men, nothing ever serious and yet she expects her Mr. Right.

My friends and I were invited to the same NYE party this year, hosted by the same person. I knew there was a chance my ex would be there, but I didn't care - I was over him.

Oh I'm sure you were over him, otherwise why else would he be on your mind constantly.

So my girls and I are there early, having a few cocktails and everything is going great... then Will walks through the door. He saw me, smiled, walked directly over and gave me a big hug. With his arms wrapped around me, smelling his cologne... I just melted. In that moment, whatever bad feelings I had about our relationship were completely gone. I just genuinely missed him.

Just like that, all those bad feelings are gone when she sees Will, her Alpha.

My friends could tell that seeing him had affected me. They took me to a more private area of the house to talk it out; they reminded me to not get ahead of myself, he's still the same guy who lied to you.

Her friends are trying to make her feel better by blame shifting everything on Will, obviously the feelings with this one are strong.

Will found another girl

She arrived about 10 minutes later and Will introduced her to everyone. She seemed nice enough, but seeing them together made me sick to my stomach. I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. I did my best to avoid them throughout the night. I found out through a friend that they'd been dating for 2 or 3 months. The party ended, I got into a car with my friends and just started sobbing uncontrollably. They tried to comfort me but I was too far gone. They dropped me off and I cried for while longer alone in my apartment.

Of course, she was definitely trying to spite you. Alpha widowed forever.

I want him back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(

Awwwwwww...it's ok, you'll find a man that will make you happy one day.

If you read the comments section, no one is comforting her, they all say it's her fault for ending the relationship.

EDIT: You can find the originsl story on my page, just go under my submitted stuff for those of you who are interested.


[–]DatYute 649 points650 points  (132 children)

What's funny is that she says that the reason the relationship ended was because he lied to her about "life things"(his money), but in the original story, SHE was the one who left him because he was not ambitious enough for her and their dates consisted of watching movies at his apartment. She then later found out, from a friend of his, that he was filthy rich.

[–]Linoran 345 points346 points  (94 children)

It's quite amazing actually how they manage to twist stories like that. "It's not a lie if you believe it".

[–]wiseprogressivethink 202 points203 points  (44 children)

Ever had a girlfriend cheat on you, then later explain/justify it to you by saying that she didn't really cheat because she had already broken up with you...in her mind?

I'm putting this out there, half expecting the follow-up comments to be "ouch...that's a new one" but also half-expecting the follow-up comments to be "yep, same exact shit happened to me too."

(AWALT, but the specific scenarios and excuses can still be novel.)

[–]Battle-Scars 126 points127 points  (10 children)

Cheating is her way to say she's breaking up with you, it's up to you to pick up the signals yourself.

[–]Appleseed12333 27 points28 points  (0 children)

its like you can see the hamster and translate what it's saying.

[–]Seducibledotcom 91 points92 points  (7 children)

I "leave" my gf a couple times a month. I just never get around to telling her.

[–]UCISee 86 points87 points  (20 children)

Same. Shit. Different faces. "You left me on the side like trash! I had to find someone who treated me well!" This was a wife. While I was deployed. Six weeks in to the deployment. Then she tried to tell me it never happened on any other deployments. You couldn't even wait two months, what makes you think I believe you waited over a year!?

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 37 points38 points  (7 children)

It's delusional to expect someone capable of getting laid to remain celibate throughout the duration of deployments. People in the military shouldn't be in relationships at all once they ship off.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I remember what my first Drill Sergeant told me and I took it to heart.

He said he loves his wife, but when he comes back from a long field op or a deployment, he doesn't go around kicking in doors trying to find skeletons. If he comes home and all is back to normal, he doesn't give a fuck, but he said you should ALWAYS have a backup plan. Secret bank accounts, bug out supplies, house and car not in wife's name, etc.

[–]Wel108 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I had a similar thing happen to me where she denied ever doing anything. Of course, i looked into it, and i uncovered the truth. The weirdest most satisfying look you will ever see from a female is when you both know she just got caught 150% in her lie, and you see her for who she really is.

Of course that also means its the end of you guys in every way possible. Because you now remind her of the her she doesn't "want to be."

[–]Betamax69 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Yep. Same exact thing happened to me. One of the things I love about this forum is comparing notes and seeing AWALT from different people's perspective

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

After you hear she's fucked somebody else whatever insane justification she gives is meaningless.

It's not even worth listening to. Just fucking tune that shit out and move on with your life.

[–]GeminiEngine 15 points16 points  (0 children)

(Blue pill me) Similar story. We would have a huge fight she would declare it over, go bang someone, come back for the relationship. When I found proof of these repeating activities, she denied it was cheating. So I told her that might be possible, but it means you were using me until you found something better. (Insert tears) I told her to pick one crime, usury or adultery, and we will discuss the possibility of reparations. She actually asked if there was a third option, nope, next.

[–]NAmember81 141 points142 points  (40 children)

I was sharing an apartment with a girl and got sick of her shitty attitude and non stop bitching so while she was gone one day I packed all my stuff up and moved out. A week or so later when I was getting the larger items from the apartment she makes a comment like "that's why I had to break up with you". Lol

I didn't waste my time arguing about who left who but I'm sure the story she tells herself and others is that she kicked me out.

[–]tb87670 125 points126 points  (35 children)

She really believed she dumped you after you packed up your shit and left her. This is so fucking stupid that it can't be made up. You dodged the bullet broseph.

[–]NAmember81 131 points132 points  (30 children)

I dodged an artillery shell. She got pregnant by some other bloke within a month of me leaving. This was in November 2012 and my mom's still friends with her on Facebook and she is freaking enormous and her baby's daddy in the pictures looks miserable tagging along with her while she's doing selfies at The Cheesecake Factory.

I'm 34 and so thankful that I'm single with no kids. I can do whatever I wish without answering to anybody, so nice.

[–]OhMy8008 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I'm 34 and so thankful that I'm single with no kids. I can do whatever I wish without answering to anybody, so nice.

Gay man here, this is why I love reading through this sub. I never have to get married, or have children, or deal with any of the bullshit that both of those things bring with them. Seeing other men get the same reprieve is a breath of fresh air. So nice.

[–]Purecorrupt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even the guys that get baby rabies on purpose... When I hear about older guys at work talk about their expenses is just depressing.

The cost of vacations triple or more. Pay for yourself, wife, kid(s), and you gotta think about pets. I don't even want a dog, because I live in an apartment. Yet there are still kids that get married and have kids right out of highschool.

Granted if you can afford all of that then gravy, but if they have to complain then it's obviously not all rainbows.

[–]bigbuzd1 42 points43 points  (3 children)

16 years after catching my wife banging my best friend, and sending mushy emails and her bra to an internet stranger, and I am still the one she blames for ending a wonderful marriage. Even brainwashed my, at the time, 9 yr old son into believing it...it was all daddy's fault for leaving.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 22 points23 points  (2 children)

It really sucks when feminized sluts warp their kids' minds into thinking that their fathers are villains. I know that female solipsism/selfishness is a thing, but you'd think that they'd have an ounce of decency or respect for their child's biological father. Nope-- it's about using and dumping you on the side of the street.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRS73 15 points16 points  (1 child)

The angry male feminist mommy-worshippers I've met over the years have usually been guys who were raised by single mothers. They were fed an endless diet of "your father's an asshole, your mother's a saint" by their mother from the day they were born. Of course, that sometimes backfires and the guys grow up hating their mothers.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'd say it also backfires given what said males become-- fat/scrawny nolives who amount to nothing because they were instilled with shitty values by females.

[–]RedPillAtNight 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had an LTR with a girl who was my unicorn, almost. I lost my job of 25 years on a Friday, met her 60 hours later on Monday (hey, I could do lunch dates since I was unemployed) and didn't find full time employment for 22 months, she never said a single word. In six and a half years she never said no to sex once. She would book out of the way B&Bs for weekend fuck fests. Naked photos any time. She even booked a naked couples photo shoot for us for my birthday. Most self aware person I know. Emotionally intelligent to a huge degree. Disagreements were timely, kindly and gently handled. A million other things made her perfect for me.

But the lack of caring about money was a double edged sword. She had debt. Even though she didn't really seem to waste money, even on a salary approaching six figures she didn't seem to have enough to pay stuff off. Then without telling me she borrowed $24k for her kids year of college. It was the last straw.

So finally we set a meeting and we both knew I was going to pull the plug due to her money issue. We get to the meeting and she says, "This isn't working." She was breaking up with me! She had some bogus reasons why it wasn't working out. It had to be her idea.

Stuff is never her fault, even in the most emotionally solid people.

[–]Zaorish9 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep it's amazing how girls will 110% of the time twist any breakup story to make themselves a victim

[–]RobBobGlove 17 points18 points  (3 children)

We've always been at war with Eastasia

[–]NeutralHavoc 8 points9 points  (2 children)

We've always been allies with Eurasia

[–]Caucasian-African 103 points104 points  (19 children)

It's amazing how women will just automatically change basic premises / details in an argument or discussion. They make those small changes hoping you won't notice, or will just let it slide.

[–]Ojisan1 87 points88 points  (14 children)

Gaslighting is a real skill that most women have, and while some may choose not to use it, most men are generally lacking good defenses against it. As always, maintaining frame is everything.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Yep. If you're going to try to LTR up a girl you better know how to steel yourself against the common solipsistic gaslighting a woman will engage in.

[–]1Entropy-7 43 points44 points  (0 children)

For women, the ret-cons they pull seem to be more about keeping their own, perpetually shattered ego together rather than as an intentional method of psychological abuse to drive you crazy.

It's more of a reverse gaslighting because they do it to themselves to convince themselves that they are not insane WRT their choices and behavior in your relationship, especially after the relationship ends on a bad note.

[–]1Sir_Distic 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Holy shit! 4 years after my last LTR ended I'm now realizing she gaslighted me. She'd constantly use my words against me and even twist them so I looked like a liar.

And she had a Master's in English working towards her PhD.

[–]reddymcwoody 17 points18 points  (8 children)

How exactly do you defend against it?

I try call them out on the small key details they changed and they flip it on me and make me seem juvenile.

[–]2Overkillengine 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Steamroll it by acting on what you have actually observed instead of what she tells you that you saw.

Do not negotiate. Do not argue. Act. And if she does not get in line, NEXT!

Anything other than that runs a much higher chance of encouraging and enabling that bullshit. Which means, you as a male, are going to be stuck forever in the patriarchal role because no one else in her fucking life is forcing her to be responsible!

[–]thisishowiwrite 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This 100%. "I don't give two fucks what you said/think, I know the truth of the matter and I trust myself 1000x more than I trust you."

[–]Ojisan1 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Frame.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #1:

Frame is everything. Always be aware of the subconscious balance of who’s frame in which you are operating. Always control the Frame, but resist giving the impression that you are.

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    [–]Ojisan1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Read the link. I can't explain it better than Rollo Tomassi.

    [–]Ojisan1 27 points28 points  (1 child)

    the small key details

    Exactly what not to do. By debating the details of the story you have already lost, you've entered her frame and are negotiating how you're going to live in her reality, not yours.

    [–]catjugglinpimp 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    thank you. do not argue. it is their realm.

    [–]bRpill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You never argue with women, it's always a losing proposition, specially if you're right.

    [–]DatYute 21 points22 points  (0 children)

    No doubt. In this case, it is actually a completely different story than what actually happened, masked in a way to look like she was always saying the same thing. Scary actually.

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    And if you call them out on it, it makes the argument worse it's the most ridiculous tactic ever

    [–]1Entropy-7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    As with a false rape accusation, unless you have things explicitly in writing or video evidence with audio (and ideally running commentary or mind-reading closed captions) , your side of the story is not really considered.

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      [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Only a moron spends Several $100+ on shiny rocks. You got suckered.

      [–]hhamama66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Only a moron spends several $1000s on shiny rocks to impress someone or buy their "love"

      [–]S4mG0ld 22 points23 points  (1 child)

      The value of stealth wealth can never be underestimated.

      [–]RaptorFalcon 16 points17 points  (1 child)

      I hope someone called her on that with quotes from her original post.

      Sure everyone makes mistakes, but at least most people own up to them.

      [–]1Sir_Distic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Men own up to them. Women have no reason to have personal responsibility.

      [–]White_Phillip 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It's shit like this that have permanently made me not trust what women tell me on a logical level when it comes to recounting past events, especially relationships.

      She didn't cheat on her last boyfriend, he viciously broke up with her and her friend comforted her. She didn't sleep with 30 guys, just 4 because those other 26 guys really weren't sex. She didn't bitch and nag out her last boyfriend until he broke up with her, he just was distant and, like, totally not 100% in so she ended it.

      [–]menial_optimist 9 points10 points  (5 children)

      .)

      While he can do as he pleases, loaded or not watching movies in your apartment everytime would get boring fast.

      [–]bluedrygrass 43 points44 points  (0 children)

      But she now apparently finds it the most satisfying thing ever, now that she learnt about his secret wealth. Strange how swiftly interests changes.

      [–]yomo86 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Did this myself, although not loaded. While going through life like a pony car that is on fire this two seemingly boring things root out all LTR-desasters. Broken girls cannot keep their act in order when faced with normal life. Drama ensues. WWIII drama.

      TV, going for a walk, grocery shopping, listening to music. Is it boring? Yes! Is it fun? Occassionally. What does it do? Emulating married life. If she wants bungee jumping, letting you slave away at the office on sundays because we neeeeed a 7 bedroom house, the cruise we always wanted... you get the idea.

      [–][deleted] 154 points155 points  (20 children)

      Best part is how this story has been twisted after some time in her perspective.

      [–]trumpisafaggybeta 150 points151 points  (4 children)

      This is without a doubt the single biggest and most subtle message here. Look at how she twisted the story to make herself look like a victim. In reality she dumped this dude because he wasn't willing to give her his money. He then puts his cards on the table and she feels "cheated," somehow.

      I'd say it's sad, but it's pretty scary that so many women have similar mentalities as this.

      [–]1Entropy-7 52 points53 points  (2 children)

      mentalities mental illnesses

      There, corrected it for you.

      [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      Laughed my ass off. Women are crazy tho.

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      His friends told her about his money, not him. Having people say good things about you is more attractive than bragging about yourself.

      [–]1Alphaspire 35 points36 points  (12 children)

      Best part is how this story has been twisted after some time in her perspective.

      This is her frame. It didn't hold up to inspection over text on the internet, but it might have worked on her friends IRL.

      [–]FoxMcWeezer 75 points76 points  (11 children)

      A woman's IRL girlfriends' job is not to help them grow into better human beings, it's to make each other feel good. That's the bottom line. They all have to lie to each other, like agreeing without personal thought that ex-boyfriend was an asshole, or blindly complimenting each other's pictures on social media. That's why it worked on her friends IRL. They each have to keep up this facade of supporting the other ambitionless friends so they in turn can use the support when they need it.

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        [–]Philhelm 23 points24 points  (0 children)

        Unless the woman has been impeccably polite, I will usually raise my real estimate by about ten years.

        [–]bluedrygrass 5 points6 points  (5 children)

        Well them, how old was she really? don't let us hanging. She was really 28, wasn't she?

        [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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          [–]elevul 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          Damn, she was that bad at taking care of herself?

          [–]Echelon64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Sunbaking

          Tanning doesn't do wonders for your skin.

          [–]Schrodingersdawg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Should've just agreed/amplified.

          "50?" In the most genuine voice

          [–]1Alphaspire 17 points18 points  (1 child)

          I don't disagree. I also think the vast majority of twox is used for the exact same reasons, hence the removal of posts that don't commiserate with OP.

          I wanted to highlight that use of frame, because I wasn't certain if Koalasonfire made the connection and I wanted to reinforce that lesson for my benefit, and anyone else reading that didn't catch it.

          [–]dothemathdothemath 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          I remember a post around the time twox became a default sub, where a woman had posted a picture of herself in graduation robes for her master's degree. I scanned the comments and out of hundreds, only one asked about her degree. The VAST majority of the posts were talking about how pretty her hair was, or how young she looked, or how beautiful her dress was (the graduation robes were open in the middle so you could see the dress).

          [–]le_king_falcon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Her perception of the situation is her reality.

          Once you understand that perception isn't reality and can be altered wholesale by emotion, stageplay and outright fallacy you begin to come to terms with the female ability to change her past actions to suit her.

          [–][deleted] 309 points310 points  (21 children)

          Fucking demolished. I think about this story a couple times a week. Fantastic update/closure.

          [–]barrel0monkeys 265 points266 points  (17 children)

          This story doesn't think about you at all.

          [–]nuesuh 183 points184 points  (12 children)

          I want the story back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(

          [–]-xanax- 93 points94 points  (8 children)

          Awwww.... it's okay, you'll find a story that will make you happy one day

          [–]nuesuh 81 points82 points  (7 children)

          I won't lie. I sobbed uncontrollably for hours in my apartment.

          [–]UCISee 38 points39 points  (5 children)

          The story found another user, it's being overly karma-Ed just to spite you.

          [–]nuesuh 33 points34 points  (4 children)

          Yeah, i swear it was getting upvoted just to spite me! :(

          [–]UCISee 27 points28 points  (3 children)

          It's okay, you left it because it was being dishonest, not because you're an unpleasable wench.

          [–]causeandcorrelation 17 points18 points  (2 children)

          I think that we all need to understand that there is one special story for all of us. If we just be ourselves then that special story will one day come along.

          [–]db0255 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          It's ok, man. Remember, the story LIED to you.

          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          That's ok. Just read some headlines until Mr. story-right comes along.

          [–]bluedrygrass 74 points75 points  (1 child)

          "I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. "

          She probably didn't even know who she was, nor did she care. But always everything revolves about her and happens to her. Women's ego is a black hole

          [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

          Women are a black hole. Emotional void.

          [–]juiceperks 70 points71 points  (13 children)

          That story was almost as good as the one where the introverted video gamer's GF requested a break to travel the world and she found out he immediately started banging some other chick and she was livid... lol women.

          [–]insertnames 34 points35 points  (4 children)

          Sauce? I need to rub one out before bed.

          [–]juiceperks 6 points7 points  (2 children)

          Don't know how i could find it but I'm positive it was posted on TRP though I think the original was deleted. The chick found out by an email from a nosy old lady neighbor.

          [–]1KyfhoMyoba 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          My favorite comment from that one:

          Ha, ha, ha.

          You're an idiot.

          With love,

          The Internet.

          Enjoy your cake. And cats.

          [–]Fire_away_Fire_away 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Did you find it? Please I gotta see this

          [–]JihadDerp 24 points25 points  (2 children)

          Yeahhhhh my ex dumped me because i was about to move out of state and she didn't want to do long distance. So I immediately started banging other girls on tinder. She was PISSED. Bitch, you dumped me!

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          I went through something similar in high school (before I even knew about Reddit): my ex-girlfriend admitted to cheating on me with one of her coworkers and then shamelessly begins to message me about him days later. I then tell her about this HB7.9 feminine, black girl with a nice ass who is into me (true at the time, by the way). Damn, she felt so defeated. "You're an asshole because you're already seeing another girl"! Bitch please......

          [–]Uptonogood 13 points14 points  (0 children)

          That one was pure gold. You could cut the hypocrisy with a knife.

          [–]elevul 11 points12 points  (1 child)

          Yeah, that one was absolutely gorgeous. The guy was pretty awesome to have the second one lined up so fast.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 123 points124 points  (7 children)

          It's like watching the Chronicles of the Alpha Widowed. How much are you willing to bet that she'll ride the CC for a while more, until sh'e "totally,like, over Will", then find a nice BB who "makes her feel special" and settle down with him?

          Oh, that is, until Will comes around and decides he wants to bang.

          [–]bam2_89 85 points86 points  (0 children)

          Will knows better apparently.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 51 points52 points  (4 children)

          Oh, that is, until Will comes around and decides he wants to bang.

          Judging by the party, Will ghosted her pretty well. Will had enough sense not to tell her about the money, ignored her totally when they were in a social situation, and then shows abundance by showing up with a hotter girl. I'd like to buy Will a beer.

          "Bene vivere quam optima est ultio"

          [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 23 points24 points  (1 child)

          The ghosting is what's actually rustling her jimmies here.

          How does the saying go? It's not the pumping that makes a slut--it's the dumping.

          [–]neveragoodtime 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          I haven't heard that, but I like it.

          [–]Faps2Down_Votes 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          Have Will buy you one with his grandpa's money.

          [–][deleted]  (37 children)

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          [–]Origami84 67 points68 points  (0 children)

          That was risky. I hope you didnt trust her to use a pill or something.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 38 points39 points  (0 children)

          Don't know if it had anything to do with the money, but boy her attitude toward me changed quick when she found out I had a bit of money.

          She dropped you straight into the BB category and treated you accordingly.

          [–]1Entropy-7 52 points53 points  (11 children)

          I read a story, that might be apocryphal, about a guy who as a PUA ruse created fake bank statements and left them on his kitchen table or something but not completely out in open so that someone would have to "snoop" to actually read them. Then when he is on a date with a girl he makes an excuse early on to stop by his apartment to get something from his bedroom.

          When they get there he leaves the girl alone for a few minutes while he "searches for" his "other wallet" or something. Invariably the girl snoops, reads the bank statements and gets the impression that he is loaded. So now she is wet before they even head out to dinner or the club or whatever; the evening rocks; he bangs her silly; and then he soft nexts her.

          Another story I came across which is more credible is that feminists are trying to have men charged with rape if they lie about their job or income (in this case, saying they earn more or have more prestige than they actually do).

          source1 source2

          [–]mikazee 28 points29 points  (4 children)

          I'm totally cool with rape by deception as long as it goes both ways.

          She lies about being on he pill? Rape.

          She lies about her n-count? Rape.

          Says she was a virgin? Rape.

          Just bring this up next time someone says they think rape by deception is a valid concept and watch the hamster make the jump to hyperdrive.

          [–]1Entropy-7 5 points6 points  (3 children)

          But it never goes both ways. If a girl is drunk, that is no excuse to rape her; if a guy is drunk that is no excuse for him to rape her.

          [–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (2 children)

          "i had sex with you because I thought you were rich. Turns out youre not, so youre not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me" female logic.

          [–]Newbosterone 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          But flip the genders and watch the hamster scurrying:

          "i had sex with you because you said you were on the pill. Turns out youre not, so you're not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me"

          "i had sex with you because you said 'I've never done this sort of thing before'. Turns out you do this every week, so you're not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me"

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          well it's the guy she thought he was who had sex with her so technically that's the guy she needs to charge. The guy who doesn't exist.

          [–]pfffft_comeon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          i've been raped over and over by girls with high heels, makeup, pushup bras, spanx, and preying on me when i'm drunk and have beer goggles. these girl lie about their smv every time they leave the house.

          [–]1KyfhoMyoba 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          So now she is wet before they even head out to dinner or the club or whatever; the evening rocks; he bangs her silly; and then he soft nexts her.

          Very unlikely. More likely is that she holds out on him - lots of ASD type LMR - in hopes of a LTR. When they don't view you as LTR material, they bang you right away.

          [–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (9 children)

          Fucking hell, 800k. That's an achievement right there bro. I'm on 60k a year and trying to invest 50% of my pay. Live in a old apartment and drive a shit malaysian brand car. Other guys at work are in brand new apartments and drive Subaru WRX STi's.

          [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

          living comfortably now vs living comfortably in the future. Future usually pays off a shit ton.

          [–]BEAVERWARRIORFTW 11 points12 points  (5 children)

          Aren't WRX's kids cars? I saying this as a kid just for reference (18), but to me STI's have always been the cars that a kid (under 25) would want to buy a drive. I couldn't really see owning one as you approach 30. That being said, maybe by whole opinion on car's is a little screwed.

          [–]1james-watson 10 points11 points  (2 children)

          The WRX is best dollar/performance car money can buy. If you're a kid whose into WRXs, you're a kid with good tastes.

          STi's are a waste cause of that crappy old engine though. Stick with the new WRX.

          And by the way kiddo, the beauty of being a man who isn't BP is doing whatever the fuck you want. Jealous dudes and old women say all sorts of shit, like guys with Ferrari's have small dicks. Just a case of sour grapes, cause they couldn't get that little Ferrari dick for themselves.

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Yeah, they are. Most of the guys drive newer WRX's which usually cost upwards of $30k. $45k even. Most are in their 20s though.

          I'd never buy one haha, only because they're too common.

          [–]RaptorFalcon 18 points19 points  (1 child)

          Fuck yes. I own a house (second one, sold the first), I have 3 cars, my bank account has 5 figures, and my investments have 6.

          I tell women none of what I have. They can get an idea from two of my cars, if they see them... But from my age they usually assume loans, debt, etc.... I don't correct that assumption. My money is none of their business.

          [–]1KyfhoMyoba 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          her attitude toward me changed quick when she found out I had a bit of money.

          She immediately slotted you into the 'Beta Bux' category, and as we all know, betas get transactional sex (not validational sex), and she was mad that you didn't fulfill your part of the transaction, you shitlord.

          [–]Cristoff13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Then two days later she asked if she could borrow $50k for a down payment on a condo.

          "Borrow". Heh. At least she could have had the honesty to just ask you to give her the 50k, because of course she never had the slightest intention of paying it back.

          [–]redsfan277 41 points42 points  (9 children)

          Life's a bitch....and then you die

          [–]1Entropy-7 46 points47 points  (7 children)

          Or the Blue Pill version: Life's a bitch and then you marry one.

          [–]Thaweed 39 points40 points  (0 children)

          pure gold right here.

          "If a man with disposable income meets a women he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?" and "He could have easily kept our relationship alive by being forthcoming"

          I love how he doesnt love her because he does not spend enough money on her.

          [–]ddiogenesofsinope 70 points71 points  (6 children)

          Women and guys see this story very differently.

          Women think he's a dick for just leaving her because it comes across like she was a gold digger, when she is concerned that he is lazy.

          Guys love him because it shows that a woman cannot just love a guy unconditionally. Theres always something that hes not doing to show he loves her.

          You couldn't just love him for who he was. You had to try and change him. He lacked 'ambition' and all of those things you think makes a great man, when actually he could have loved you, and taken care of you and your spawn forever.

          Truly women can't love unconditionally.

          [–]bam2_89 36 points37 points  (2 children)

          She left him. The women in the thread weren't even sympathetic.

          [–]pfffft_comeon 10 points11 points  (1 child)

          he is lazy. nothing changed. he has the ability to be lazy is the only difference. if she really hated the lazy characteristic, she would not regret her choice.

          [–]Jordainyo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Great point. I mean, technically he is lazy. He could have been trying to achieve more. But he's cool with were he is and that's fine.

          She wanted the lifestyle that comes with money, not the man.

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 176 points177 points  (17 children)

          I remember reading her original story and feeling a smug sense of schadenfreud.

          But now I just find it sad.

          Yeah, she fucked up. She let her feelings of inadequacy get the better of her, and she dumped her ex thinking that money was all that mattered.

          But how much of this attitude did she inherit from the sick over-feminized culture in which she grew up? In a society that mistakes pleasure for happiness, and money for fulfillment, how could a growing child know any different?

          We certainly didn't, until it hit us hard enough to hurt.

          This is the role that masculinity serves in society. It keeps us focused on what is important, and steers us away from what is frivolous. It keeps women entranced and disciplined, and gives shape to their lives so they do not feel lost or purposeless.

          To live a masculine life is to pursue the maximization of your happiness. Plain and simple. There can be NO happiness for anyone if men are not happy first.

          [–]spacecowboyreturns 21 points22 points  (6 children)

          deleted What is this?

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 41 points42 points  (3 children)

          Without a massive TRP campaign/societal movement spearheaded by RedPillWomen this will always be a war of attrition.

          The only reason Red Pill Women exists is because men created The Red Pill first, and then women said "Hey, let's do something like that too!"

          No. Women will not lead the charge on anything. They never do. Women follow. That is their nature.

          Until then, the only thing we can do is be the best we can be to those who matter the most to us.

          Being the best we can be to those who matter to us is the ONLY thing men can do.

          We cannot build a movement and save society, because that is precisely the self-sacrificing-gone-haywire that got us into this mess in the first place. If this toxic environment is ever to reverse itself at the grand scale, it must happen as the result of changes made at the individual scale. That is as much control as any of us have over the matter.

          [–]bluedrygrass 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          The only reason Red Pill Women exists is because men created The Red Pill first, and then women said "Hey, let's do something like that too!"

          Truly. And i have a lot of doubts a woman can ever really be rep pilled outside of peronal interests and aims (=she's ugly; she's been burned in the past; she hates competition; etc. etc)

          Most of the posts i've read in the redpillwomen sub, they sounded like parrots trying to say things to make certain demographics happy, not because they really grasped or believed in their words.

          Awalt, awalt, awalt.

          did you know autism is more difficult to diagnose in females, because even in their autistic state they try harder to integrate and look normal in the society? They're like Blade Runner's replicants. Aliens trying to assimilate.

          [–]1Alphaspire 21 points22 points  (3 children)

          I agree.

          I also think her original response seems to make sense. She wanted a life where her BB provided her with the traditional "american dream". He was not going to be that man, so she needed to find another.

          She laments the fact that he could have been the ultimate provider even more due to the fact that she loved the other characteristics he brought to the table. She couldn't break him into the provider she wanted, and he was basically the best case scenario for her if she had been able to.

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 19 points20 points  (0 children)

          Exactly. +1

          Her delusion - her illness - was in approaching the situation with entitlements (he owes me) rather than incentives (how can I inspire his loyalty and protective instinct?).

          Had she been inoculated from developing a poisonous entitlement complex, she might still be with this guy, and the two of them could be working to make one another happy.

          I don't want to see anyone lose if everyone can win.

          [–]RedPillOdin 16 points17 points  (4 children)

          Funny how the exact opposite is preached in BP media. "Happy wife, happy life" anyone?

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 46 points47 points  (2 children)

          The Red Pill teaches the opposite: "Happy life, happy wife."

          [–]Rodion-Raskolnikov 28 points29 points  (0 children)

          Holy fuck that is some warp-speed hamstering. I've seen a similar scenario play out years ago when a former female friend ran into her ex-boyfriend (who had she dumped some years earlier for 'reasons' etc.) at a party accompanied by his hotter, younger and more talented new girlfriend. Much later, her sobs came from the darkest well of misery I've ever seen a woman drown in. Genuine howls of pain that lasted for hours. The 'pathetic beta chump' she had wantonly chucked was now a successful and handsome alpha. The only way her female friends could comfort her was to call the new girlfriend every spiteful name under the sun and make up slanderous stories about her. Oh, and the ex-boyfriend? That asshole "never appreciated what he once had". The guys in the room looked at each other and WE ALL KNEW...

          [–]Mgtowredpillonroids 20 points21 points  (0 children)

          Massive Schadenboner. And a round of applause for Mr. Will MA MAN

          [–]allnamesfckintaken 16 points17 points  (0 children)

          this story is the fucking funniest shit. she broke up with him because she thought he was a loser. absolutely nothing has changed about him genetically other than the fact that he's inherited millions. now she loves him so much.

          [–]1rife_omeqa 15 points16 points  (0 children)

          Fantastic example of a woman's casual relationship with the truth. AWALT.

          The story changes after the fact in accordance with her mood, agenda or narrative, in this case the narrative required for her to claim victim-hood at a NYE party and on reddit.

          Learn from this example. Don't underestimate a woman's capacity to do one thing and say another while 100% believing her own lies.

          [–]Squeezymypenisy 14 points15 points  (10 children)

          Goddammit i remember this. Is the original still up? Where can I find it? I want to read the comments. They weren't sympathetic to her last time.

          [–]One_friendship_plz 30 points31 points  (9 children)

          She deleted her post, and the mods deleted the comments because people were too honest with her.
          There's still an existing archive that has some of the comments before they were deleted though

          https://archive.is/ednsL (The original post.)
          https://archive.is/Nf7nf (The updated post.)

          I should've left then and there, but I didn't want it to seem like him having a new girlfriend affected me. Like I hadn't gotten on with my fucking life after 14 months apart. And so I stayed.

          It's really damn satisfying to read.

          [–]weiguk 21 points22 points  (4 children)

          This is said to be the original post: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCoweMSUMAA63Cb.png (linked in your archive of the original post). In case someone just wants the posts and not the comments.

          [–]FreakyFruit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Thank you. I really needed to read the preamble to the story, as it was deleted.

          [–]trumpisafaggybeta 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Thank God people here archive this sort of shit.

          [–]Squeezymypenisy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Really satisfying thanks. Not sure if this was the reason but i know those mods don't allow relationship advice posts in that subreddit. She might have been making a complain post though. Which is typical of that sub.

          [–]Austiny1 12 points13 points  (3 children)

          I started following the red pill after the initial story. I still can't believe how she rationalises everything into her favor.. Fucking dudes of tinder waiting for MR. Right, sadly that's the majority of girls I know..

          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

          Thats 98% of women. Fucking alphas while waiting for their perfect beta bux.

          [–]FoxMcWeezer 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          They don't wait for beta bux, they settle for beta bux.

          [–]1PantsonFire1234 11 points12 points  (13 children)

          My friends could tell that seeing him had affected me. They took me to a more private area of the house to talk it out; they reminded me to not get ahead of myself, he's still the same guy who lied to you.

          This is female disgusting behavior at it's finest. Their feeding off the drama created by their female friend whilst simultaneously giving her advice that's against her best interest. They want her to be miserable so they can have a one up in the group. Classic bitch behaviour. And they do all this under the pretence of being "her friend". But make no mistake, each and everyone of them is plotting the destruction of the rest of the group.

          Women ain't team players and will never know what it's like to genuinely care about anyone else in their whole lives.

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (12 children)

          I literally do not understand any rp man who wants a ltr Why use a selfish disgusting creature aka a female, for anything other than sex?

          [–]1PantsonFire1234 5 points6 points  (11 children)

          You're preaching to the choir man. Maybe it's me but there's no way I could enter an honest relationship with a woman nowadays.

          I've adopted something I call 'Pretend Relationships', the idea being that when forced I eventually agree to an LTR. But in my mind she's still a plate and I just continue with my standard programming. Eventually she might break and implode but who cares about that. I've got no fucks left to give.

          Sad reality but hey, at least everyone is getting laid more than before.

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 2 points3 points  (5 children)

          Think about what you mean when you say "honest relationship".

          What you likely mean is a relationship where exchanges are "fair" and there's no social manoeuvring or manipulation necessary.

          Relationships have always required manoeuvring and manipulation, but you didn't realize it until you took the Red Pill. Fair exchange is not something that happens with women.

          LTRs are possible with wome if you charge them upfront and get what you want first, and THEN they can have something in return.

          "Fairness" is just a word women use to get free stuff. Once their stomachs stop growling they don't know what the word means.

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

          I dont even get into LTRs. im just gonna plate, fwb & ons for the rest of my life . No woman is worth any investment besides a lay. Women are nothing but a series of holes and a walking life support system for those holes, to me. Honestly wish they were just sold like cattle & bred for breeding. Like clone Chambers in star wars. Women are impossible to have a relationship with because the most effective way of dealing with them is not to have a relationship with them.

          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Another happy ending.

          This one is better than "It's a Wonderful Life".

          [–]TankVet 9 points10 points  (5 children)

          Important to notice how this story changed. Before she dumped him because he had no professional ambition. Now they broke up because of his dishonesty. Whoops, nice little adjustment to better fit the facts after the fact. I loathe people like this.

          The first version of this story was pretty different than today's account. She's actually twisted her own version of the facts to better justify her actions. This is a great find.

          [–]Always-Ask-Questions 3 points4 points  (4 children)

          I didn't see the original post, so tried to track it down there (deleted now) but a of couple her comments are still on. Wow.

          She tries to justify it by saying she thought he was living wage to wage (as a musician) and that she wanted a family, so that wouldn't work - a fair point. *However, I'd imagine if he was on the same page as her (i.e. that serious) money would have come up at some point. Even not disclosing how much but being like "I can support a family without giving up music" or whatever. Then she goes on about not wanting "pampered" and its just about marriage/family some day...but then says if she was the one with money she would want to buy him things. So...you want him to buy things for you then, yeah?

          Edit: * a fair point if it was a small paycheck, barely covering his needs.

          [–]TankVet 8 points9 points  (1 child)

          Well, the argument gets a little post hoc ergo propter hoc. She doesn't know that he's been dishonest until after she dumps him. They didn't break up, she ended it. He didn't throw it away, she did. And she uses his omission for justification after the fact.

          Now that she regrets it, the blame is transferred to him. Dude is still doing his thing, she's just upset because she blew it.

          [–]pfffft_comeon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          best part is that nothing changed about the guy. he still had/has no ambition as she defined it. he's still a "loser" in her eyes, but now a loser with money.

          [–]Stationarity 41 points42 points  (1 child)

          A friend of mine used to go dancing nightly in Dallas during the 80s. He had a friend that showed up to the club in a beat up pickup truck, wearing clean clothes, nothing fancy. This guy would dance with quite a few girls over the months, and eventually dated one, leading to marriage. That's when he revealed to her, and my friend, that he was a self made multimillionaire. He claimed he would have never known if a woman married him for the money.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          He claimed he would have never known if a woman married him for the money.

          Unless there's a prenup and you're broke at the time.... she married him for money. It's always about the money.

          Sure, in this case she didn't know that there was a jackpot... but she married expecting a monthly payment with a highly expensive (for him) opt out clause.

          [–]allnamesfckintaken 16 points17 points  (1 child)

          the problem with women these days is they want it all. they want to be taken care of but they don't feel like they should save themselves for that man. they want to ride the cock carousel then get taken care of by a good man. well, does anyone ever pick up trash at the park? no, they hire a janitor for that right? that's because nobody takes care of public property. well, if a woman gets fucked by like 30 guys, she's basically public property.

          can someone explain to me why a man who has choices would ever choose a woman who was used up by 30 other guys? why would he devote all his time and energy into taking care of such a woman and put her on a pedestal?

          [–]MakeEmSayAyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          This is rhetorical right? We dont have to explain to you how that they've been entitled so much that this is how they are now.

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

          Was this the guy who sat eating cheap food and watching YouTube documentaries and she wasn't happy with such a low-budget lifestyle?

          [–]FoxMcWeezer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Yeah, potato soup and torrenting movies

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          (mortal kombat voice) "ALPHA WIDOWED"

          [–]thats_abingo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          So uh could anyone point me in the right direction of this thread so I can see the comments for research purposes....?

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Missed one.

          I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me.

          Solipsism ... everyone is just an actor in a movie in which she is the main character. This chick is going all touchy feely not to spite the ex but because she's probably super hot for Alpha Will.

          I want him back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(

          He demonstrated bonus SMV by showing up with a hot girl who is all over him and now she wants him back in order to take him away from the hot girl.

          [–]Kalepsis 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          My favorite part of her original post was this:

          If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?

          Maybe she should've treated him. Equal pay, right? So many women are so adamant that they should get paid the same as men, but when it comes to paying for their half of a relationship? Hell no.

          The hypocrisy is astounding.

          [–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          I want him back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(

          You need to become a 2nd wife. It's your only chance.

          [–]NeoreactionSafe 13 points14 points  (4 children)

          A great example of:

          Men desire Freedom, Women desire Access

          ...as long as the girl thought there was nothing to gain Access to she was lukewarm about this guy who maintained his Freedom and secrecy.

          Once the secret is revealed she desires Access.

          Women don't really love things they can have.

          ...but another lesson is that the guy was unable to establish masculine polarity over the woman without falling back on material things like his Bucks. That's not good. If the woman dumped him then that's doing him a favor.

          In the long run a LTR demands masculine polarity without the Bucks.

          Don't forget Divorce Rape and Child Support... all the Bucks in the world do no good with the laws being what they are these days.

          Child Support Laws weren't even invented until 1950.

           

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

          Child Support Laws weren't even invented until 1950.

          That's because welfare and social security had just started. It wasn't fair for the rest of the taxpayers to pay for someone else's kid. Wear a condom if you don't want to pay for your own child. The rest of us don't want to pay for YOUR kid either.

          [–]neveragoodtime 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          The premise of the law forgets that men do pay for their children. Just not as much as the woman wants him to. Imagine the government going into a married man's house and telling him that he made so much money he was required to buy his child the brand named sneakers, not the generic knock offs. The father is being told he must spend $X on his children, that they are entitled to it even if he is trying to protect them from being spoiled. Add to that the fact that he's not allowed to spank his children for acting spoiled, and that's how we get a generation of entitled spoiled children.

          [–]Drenmar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          So this is how "changing history in her mind" works. Women are incredible.

          [–]TRPApprentice 19 points20 points  (2 children)

          I gotta admit, I love reading stories about women getting FUCKED. After seeing so many instances of the man getting screwed its good to know the women are also getting fucked every now and then. Keep crying those bitch tears, ladies! :)

          [–]indeydius 23 points24 points  (7 children)

          There's an important theory conversation we can have about this. People are saying that she was 'alpha widowed' but he hid money from her so theory says the attraction was 'beta bux.' Now, just as I wrote this, I realized my error. He was with her without her having any idea of his money. He alpha-ed her. When she realized he had money he double-alpha-ed her. Therefore, widow.

          Agree?

          [–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 47 points48 points  (0 children)

          "Will, you're not good enough for me, you don't have the kind of money I like. Goodbye, Will."

          "Bye sweetie. Btw, I'm sitting on a few mil in oil investment money."

          "What?! How dare you hide that from ME? Will? WILLLLLL..."


          This wasn't a case of Alpha vs Beta, it was just a clever man vs. a basic bitch, with all the delicious heartrending results we've come to expect from such a match.

          She is great fun like most girls... In that she looks at a man and sees only what's in it for her. You don't understand the first of it, if you're a man. They're living in a different world. It's like a teeming pool of she-sharks, and it's a free for all, who can grab the most manmeat for herself. Plus all the other sharks WILL gossip about you.

          [–]1WeedDaddy 17 points18 points  (0 children)

          Her situation is like having the winning lottery ticket but throwing it in the trash and learning about it afterwards. Missing the chance of a lifetime.

          I believe a woman feels a multimillionaire to be alpha initially, her prejudice gives him alpha credit, which the millionaire can squander though and change the woman's perception.

          The typical betabux is only "well-off", having lower end 6-fig income, which can only give comfort, whereas an opulent lifestyle can provide real tingles without game if the man can set boundaries ("hold frame").

          [–]DeltaRecon2552 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          I was thinking it was alpha... then alpha bux.

          [–]Lildoc_911 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          This is the same girl that got upset with the man not disclosing his financial status to her?

          [–]tedcase 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Ah, I remember the original post from way back. It warmed my cold dead heart and I have been resolved to be a Will myself in the future.

          [–]dwill6413 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Will dodged a bullet on that one. He was spared a life of bullshit and drama from an obviously inadequate, self absorbed, psychologically fragile and admittedly loose bimbo. Will didn't share his wealth information with her for a reason. That reason is, she was exactly this for Will ---> Quote "I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious......just all-around happy and patiently waiting for Mr. Right to come along.".

          [–]lnvader 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Redpill porn at its finest, gentlemen.

          [–]ThatSteveGuy33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I never forgot this story, I'm glad to read an update on them. She really fucked up hard and tried to redirect blame on him. Now she's begging for sympathy while Will never even gives her a second thought.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          She was so close to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...

          So close.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Is this the one that ended the relationship because she wanted to buy a house and he was just cool jamming on his guitar and living meekly while letting ample oil residuals come in? Because she didn't break up with him for 'lying', she broke up with him because she thought he 'lacked ambition'. It's amazing how the mind re-writes history like that.

          And not discussing your finances is 'lying'? Really? Since when? I was of the impression that it was socially rude to ask people about money, and that it was up to them if they wanted to talk about it.

          WTF?

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          well at least this story had a happy ending. Have to admit I lolled at the 'remember he was the one that lied to you' bullshit lol. Yeah you're the victim

          [–]Endorsed ContributorNiftyDolphin 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          My friends could tell that seeing him had affected me. They took me to a more private area of the house to talk it out; they reminded me to not get ahead of myself, he's still the same guy who lied to you.

          Her friends are trying to make her feel better by blame shifting everything on Will, obviously the feelings with this one are strong.

          Negative. Her friends were luxuriating in the tingles and emotions that were unfolding that night. The Alpha Widow's drama was the emotional equivalent of an all-expenses paid trip to a 4 star day spa. They were feeding off of her.

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