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Building PowerHere's the Top 20% (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1atticusfinch1973

Daily on the asktrp sub we see threads where guys lament that they can't get laid because they aren't in the top 20%. This is the magical number it takes to get laid, have a baller lifestyle and be able to have an incredible life. Apparently.

There’s tons of good advice that has is usually given. However, what I decided to do is actually show the real stats for what it takes to get into the top 20% of several items. The point of this isn’t to rehash, it’s to give a bit of a reality check. Likely you're able to achieve these things somewhat easily or they don't matter as much as you think they do.

All these statistics are taken from US sources, so take them for what you will. If you live in Europe or another country things might be slightly different.

Height: If you’re 5’11’’ or above you are in the 80th percentile for height. Most women judge a guy if he is under 6 feet but don’t realize that only 16% of men are that tall. That’s one in six.

By the way, I checked stats as well from other areas. Anyone 6 feet is a giant in South America or any Asian country, averaging about the 95th percentile. Europe skews slightly taller overall but overall anyone 6 feet is still 76th percentile.

ProTip: Lie. If you’re 5’10’’ you can easily say you’re six feet and nobody is going to call you out. If it even matters to the person you’re with.

Dick size: If you’re above 5.7 inches then you’re in the 80th percentile. Meaning if you’re packing 6 inches then you’re well ahead of the game. Girls have no idea about normal dick size so when you whip it out unless you’re severely small then don’t stress about it. Frankly, if she’s seen so many cocks she can actually compare visually them then you’re probably with the wrong girl.

Guys obsess about this which is why I included it but realistically unless you’re exceedingly small it won’t make a difference at all. And no, you’re not eight inches long. If you were even 7 inches, out of 1000 dicks, only 33 would be your size.

N-Count: If you are 30 years old and have banged 21 women you’re in the 80th percentile. If you are 25 and have banged 16 women you’re in the 80th percentile.

The interesting thing about this calculation is that if I put in the same numbers for women who are 25 (16 partners) they are in the 92nd percentile. Meaning either a lot of women lie on these surveys or the ones with a high N count balance out the ones who wait for marriage and only have a couple of partners.

So don’t stress about having sex with a lot of women. If this is an achievement you want to unlock, you can hit that number fairly easily by the age of 30 if you stay single and have decent game.

Debt: I put this is because it’s something we don’t often speak about in TRP, but it’s important especially for younger guys. Here’s a scary statistic:

If you have zero savings and no debt – you’re ahead of 85% of the population in the US. So many people let themselves get into high amount of student debt, credit cards etc that really you should be shooting for debt free EVEN WITHOUT SAVINGS. Hopefully you’re smart enough to not fall into this trap, and if you’re one of those people who spent 100k on a useless liberal arts degree and now work at Starbucks I have nothing for you.

Debt free – make saving automatic from your paycheck – and don’t spend money on useless things (like a useless degree).

Earnings: Another one that might blow your mind or make you feel a lot better. If you make $72,000 a year in the US you’re in the 80th percentile for income. Now, cost of living is a thing. If you live in New York, San Francisco, etc then you likely need to make a higher amount but this is the average. There are cheaper places to live and work across the country.

The 1% statistically makes just under $400k a year – so if you’re even making six figures you’re laughing in comparison in the US. And if you moved somewhere else? That 100k would easily make you a king. Try heading to Thailand with $10,000 and you can live with servants and hookers daily in a suite for three months.

To summarize, the reason for this is to show people that you likely are ahead of the game. The other important rule to follow is not to compare yourself to others, especially the fake lifestyles you see all over social media. To get into the top 20% there are some simple adjustments you can make. Instead of complaining about how you’ll never get there this is an example of what it actually takes and it’s likely not as hard as you think it is.


[–]RadioForMen 655 points656 points  (66 children)

I've posted this a few times but I'll keep posting this when this stuff comes up.

At age 31 I was dating a cute and smart 21 year old. I was making $200k+ a year, working out 5 days a week (I'm 6'4"), and doing great at work. I was doing so well, that apparently there was nothing left for her to do but fuck a local NFL player.

There's always someone better and different. If you become top #% of men, you'll date approximately the equivalent status woman. That woman will think she can do a few (or more) % better, and she will go try.

[–]MyReddit6 314 points315 points  (6 children)

That's actually awesome dude. It says more about you that she had to tingle for NFL Chad to branch swing. Some guys get cheated on with the damn waiter or college flunk out...

[–]Jake_le_Dog 117 points118 points  (3 children)

I think sometimes that happens anyway. That other guy will be interesting to her, merely because he's different and new.

[–]MyReddit6 18 points19 points  (0 children)

My other favorite is when she tries to replace you with a less attractive version of yourself - ie. a guy who looks just like you, same style, same interests - but is like the C grade version LOLOLOLOL

[–]p3n1x 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Or because he is just a toy that is supplying something emotionally that you are not able to do.

[–]omega_dawg93 134 points135 points  (12 children)

hypergamy doesn't care about your stats... only the next guy's stats.

[–]clausternn 31 points32 points  (4 children)

only the next guy's stats.

...and how they compare to yours.

[–]p3n1x 69 points70 points  (1 child)

This is totally wrong. They are her checkboxes, not yours. Don't have this mentality or else good luck being OK when she chooses some dirtball over you.

You ARE NOT being compared objectively, you are being replaced emotionally.

[–]eccentricrealist 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not even in absolute terms. She can fuck a bodybuilder one day and a Rockstar the next

[–]ebaymasochist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

genetic diversity is the goal

[–]Dawginole 11 points12 points  (0 children)

“hypergamy doesn't care about your stats... only the next guy's stats.”

This guy gets it. Ask me how I know.

[–]askmrcia 43 points44 points  (6 children)

There's always someone better and different. If you become top #% of men, you'll date approximately the equivalent status woman. That woman will think she can do a few (or more) % better, and she will go try.

And this statement right here gentlemen is exactly how those pro athletes and entertainers pass around or get cheated on by the same FEW women.

So even though these guys can have any woman they want, they all still go after women that are just as high in status as they are. And of course those same women can cheat on those high profile celebrities with others just like them.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 9 points10 points  (2 children)

That's because those high profile celebriteis are retards.

If they picked one of their millions of groupies to be in a sexual relationship with, over some bitch in the top 1% of people, then they would never get cheated on.

But they're stupid and wanna bang the real Rhianna, instead of a hood bitch who looks like her - without worrying about if she gonna cheat, cus the hood look alike doesnt have the same opportunity or same SMV.

If the random fan cheats on the rockstar - then she will be alpha widowed.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Celebrities are bluepill. They often don't know how to leverage instinct for advantage. And they lose out in the divorce court.

Two factors make them chase equal status chicks:

1) The tragedy of relationships; we want those we can't have. Groupies are too available.

2) The woman on your arm raises your status. If you're giving your commitment to a low-status girl, then it reflects badly on you.

Rock stars have sex with groupies. Hell, their stage crews have sex with groupies. They just don't commit to them.

Also, obviously, I'm not a rock star... but I do think that if a girl managed to snag a celebrity, she won't stay grateful for long. Within a very short while, she will hamster that SHE is too good for him. Hypergamy doesn't care.

[–]Boovs4life 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You're right. Even famous rappers get cheated on. I might be wrong, but Ciara cheated on Future with an NFL player. He said this in one of his songs "you fell in love with a nigga drinking codeine, how you gonna fall for a nigga drinking creatine?"

[–]GAMER_GIRL_POO 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Russel Wilson - QB for the Seattle Seahawks. She didn’t cheat, she just broke up with Future. In fact, Wilson is a devout Christian who claimed to be celibate - saving himself for marriage.

[–]dtyler86 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Yep. 32, 6’2”, earn just south of $100k, dated a soft 7 (Norwegian and was a freak in the bed). Ended up being a skank. You let them think they’re your speed, they’ll try to race up to anything and see what they’re made of; without you. AWALT

[–]Morphs_ 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The thing is, a woman shouldn't even know what you're making because that's a BB trait. Earning a lot is just awesome for yourself, but it's better to keep it from the women you're fucking.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean realistically it's going to come up eventually.

[–]IClogToilets 51 points52 points  (11 children)

fuck a local NFL player

Statistically in five years he will be broke and most likely have issue because of CTE. Being in the NFL is great ... but it is only for a short time. And the downfall is significant.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 83 points84 points  (4 children)

and you think that made one lick of a difference for anyone?

[–]IClogToilets 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Yea, I do. Don't let an NFL player or any football player intimidate you. They will go from Hero to Zero in a few years.

Unless it is Brett Favre. If it is Brett Favre you are screwed.

[–]AshyLarry27 25 points26 points  (0 children)

You're missing that guy's point. Simply that you can be so high SMV, that you literally max out almost every box, and she will still find someone else to pick over you. Think of it like food. You could have tasted the most amazing steak ever at some high class restaurant, and choose to go there to enjoy it when you get the chance as it is now your most favorite food. If you were to eat that steak every day for every meal, you would eventually get tired of it. You would then eventually eat something else at least delicious, even if it is not as good as that steak, just to have something different.

[–]RandomTRPan0n 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The NFL dude was present tense.

Obviously, his gf didnt care about the future tense.

The lesson here is AWALT, assume they'll branch swing

[–]p3n1x 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That woman will think she can do a few (or more) % better, and she will go try.

Whores will be whores, don't be purple about a whore behaving like a whore. If she is with you because of money and status, then she will absolutely continue to climb up, why would a whore do anything else???

Yes, make sure you understand that there will always be someone better than you. However, hypergamy doesn't always swing up. "Better" is subjective, this is where men mentally fuck themselves by "comparing".

My buddy in college was an absolute bag of shit on paper. He was doing some of the most despicable things to the girlfriend of one of U of A's lineman.

Set the bar, period. Be her best emotional experience. Be her best sexual experience. Be intelligent. Be more than a fake, shallow social number. Material doesn't mean a thing in LTR if you are a meathead.

[–]poochman 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Does this mean equivalent status women should not be LTR'd (risk of branch swinging is higher)?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 31 points32 points  (0 children)

shes not yours, it's just your turn

[–]evilassaultweapon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

32

She better be willing to switch to at least part time work/part time kids, else I'd say yes. Also, you'd better be ready for a lifetime in-frame. I'm not sure I could do it, so I wouldn't.

Edit: her accepting a role involving dedication to child rearing indicates a quality woman with her priorities straight, not just a subservient one.

[–]ChainsawDrone 3 points4 points  (5 children)

what tf is your job where youre making that much?

[–]RadioForMen 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I was in sales and was better than top 1% in the country (#5 out of 2200). I did it in a terrible industry (car sales), but it can be done in software, real estate sales, or anything really. If you are top 1% in sales in most industries, you'll probably make even more than you would in car sales. Top real estate agents, and top software/tech salespeople make substantially more.

[–]bulletzdz 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hey, I'm also in car sales.

Which industry did you transfer to? Or are you still in Car sales?

[–]RadioForMen 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I left to build a software product of my own (I had some knowledge of programming from college, but eventually learned the actual technology 'stack' I chose on my own once I started). The product I built got 18 companies using it, but in the process I met a lot of people and ended up doing sales for an 8 person software development firm. So now I do sales for them. I make less but the lifestyle is pretty much like being on constant vacation with buddies. If I took it a bit more seriously I could probably make $300k+ from it. Currently I make about $100k just hanging out and going to some events where I usually meet a future customer.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That woman will think she can do a few (or more) % better, and she will go try.

If it makes you feel better, imagine the competitive arena that she's now found herself in. She's now having to measure up against of B-list starlets and bikini models.

[–]CocaineOnYourClit 10 points11 points  (4 children)

How tall was the NFL player

[–]RadioForMen 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Actually slightly shorter I believe. And he was practice squad. Still a cool dude if you ask me, I looked him up haha. Living the dream. Not his fault awalt.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Was he a star, or just some practice squad guy?

[–]clausternn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Notice how OP said "local"

[–]ChadBrowGer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That guy was actually an AFL player

[–]Fulp_Piction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus Christ, that's a bit shit, but pretty hilarious.

[–]1dongpal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Never ever invest emotionally into a woman. The outcome will NEVER be in your favor.

[–]CocaineOnYourClit 211 points212 points  (36 children)

It's important to realize you dont need to be top 20% in all aspects to be top 20% overall

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 145 points146 points  (3 children)

Also important to realize that you don't need to be top 20% across all men, just of the available options.

[–]bongolese 7 points8 points  (2 children)

you don't need to be top 20% across all men, just of the available options.

which is exactly why you should delete your OLD and go day game

[–]oldAccunt 14 points15 points  (29 children)

Please elaborate on this.

[–]Code-Master13 63 points64 points  (25 children)

Height is all how you handle it. I'm 5'7", married a girl who is 5'6". There were plenty of taller men within the social circle. I was in really good shape, so that helped a lot. Most importantly, I didn't compete for her attention when other guys would talk to her. The night I won, was a night I just went elsewhere at the party to flirt & talk with other women.

That night, she told one guy she wasn't interested, he got pissed, she cried. Another guy ran up to comfort her, and once she was done crying and felt better, she came up to me and we left.

This was all before I started reading the pill, or even knew what I was doing, at least consciously. Post marriage story is a bit different, just because I subconsciously became a passive little b*itch. But that's a story for a different day, basically my mom wore the pants in our household growing up, and I bought societies garbage.

[–]IClogToilets 37 points38 points  (19 children)

Yea I'm 5'7". My wife is 5'9". I think it is great. All of my boys are taller than me. Keep on marrying someone shorter you end up with leprechaun size boys.

Height was never an issue. Most of the girls I dated were exactly my size or taller. I'll compete against anyone. Now this was before Internet dating where height will exclude someone immediately. I would probably lie a bit about my height and let them reject me face-to-face.

[–]Code-Master13 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The Leprechaun issue was my thought exactly. I didn't want to continue the short line, so I married someone tall to give it a fighting chance. She's shorter than me, but her parents are both tall, Dad 6'4, mom 5'11. My wife actually had an injury that caused her growth plate in her hip to shatter when she was 16 or so. So they cracked the other one to even things out.

Works great for me! I get a girl I can physically handle with ease, and get some tall genes into my line. Luckily I was accidentally doing a lot of tpr stuff when we met, so now that I'm studying it again things are falling right back into place.

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    [–]Andgelyo 6 points7 points  (6 children)

    Times were different back then. I’m 5’9 and I’m considered short as fuck. Most girls want a dude who is 6+. Smh

    [–]IClogToilets 9 points10 points  (5 children)

    You are using your height as an excuse. There is something else you need to fix. You don't want to come to terms with that, so you blame it on something that can't be fixed, your height. That way, it is not your fault. The idea girls only will go out with 6+ guys is laughable. Look around.

    [–]Andgelyo 3 points4 points  (4 children)

    Not using my height as an excuse, I actually get a ton of IOIs. Just saying how it’s almost become an epidemic. Online dating could be rough for short guys but IRL we don’t have a problem at all. Just saying it is a growing problem.

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      [–]Sombra_del_Lobo 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Spent the winter with a play date who was 5'10. I'm 6'2. I doggy styled her standing whilst she was on the bed. We had amazing chemistry in and out of bed. Then the winter ended and she went back to her boyfriend who bought her a car, a puppy and she doesn't have to work and goes to parties every weekend. Meh...next.

      [–]evilassaultweapon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      They can't simply keep her legs further apart? I suspect it's an issue of most girls not being willing to put in the effort; nothing worse than that "dead fish" experience...

      [–]Iwannachokekatie 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      I wouldn't use being married to a chick as a measure of you being better than the otger men in your social circle.

      [–]Code-Master13 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      It wasn't the being married part, she just happens to be my wife now.

      Edit: For example, I've never dated a girl who was under 5'5". Many have been taller than me. That was just the most recent example I had.

      [–]Aeronautix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      hey if she leaves with him..

      [–]JoeyOreally 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Some of the biggest players and ladies men ive ever met in my life were almost all shorter than me (6'0)

      [–]CocaineOnYourClit 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Guys below 5'11 in height can still become top 20% males even though they are not top 20% in height

      [–]randomtask2005 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      It's a concept called talent stacking. The likelihood that a single person is in the 80th percentile in a handful on unrelated traits is low.

      It all boils down to this: you are more special than you think. Act like it.

      [–]zyqkvx 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      I wish all the Indian guys, and short guys understood this. There are so many tall bluepill men that repulse women.

      [–]Supremedis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Iol, not all Indians are short.

      [–]freew33zy 108 points109 points  (17 children)

      I still maintain that top 20% is a low goal. Look around you: how hot truly is a top 20% female? Even in my college years rn when girls are supposedly peaking and have the most value relative to their same age male counterparts, I would not want my match to be one in five chicks. If a class of mine has 15 chicks, only one is going to actually be hot--if I'm only better than 80% of the males in that class, I have no shot to get the hot chick.

      Be better than top 20%.

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        [–]freew33zy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, that was a typo. Lol

        [–]drunkpangolin 20 points21 points  (2 children)

        Hot = tall. If all you are counting is hotness, you are shortchanging yourself. Plenty of really cute, sweet, intelligent, funny... In short "attractive" women around.

        Look for the package, not just one characteristic.

        [–]freew33zy 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        I agree that only counting appearance is flawed, but for me it has to be the #1 consideration. If I'm just fucking this chick, I want a chick who has me rock hard and full of lust--that's a hot bitch, not a "good" one.

        And if I'm dating a chick, I want a chick who's going to give my kids the best chance to succeed, a.k.a. superior DNA. That is also a hot bitch.

        You see, either way looks are the most important thing for a chick. That said, I wouldn't date a cunt just because she's hot--that's not a model for success. But I would never date a chick I didn't find hot, and I wouldn't put in much effort to fuck one that isn't hot either.

        And my measurement of "hot" is, again, MUCH less than the top 20%.

        [–]drunkpangolin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Superior DNA is not a question of looks.

        I was in an LTR with an actual lingerie and bathing suit model. Astounding does not even do justice to her looks.

        The woman was rotten inside, but youth and the validation I got from such arm candy kept me with her.

        Nowadays I look for much more.

        If a woman is within looks parameters, but nice, sweet, intelligent, funny, I'm all in.

        I guess experience does that.

        I'm early 50's, occasionally banging a couple of 20 somethings, but give me a well rounded woman, 25 to 55 any day. I need more than looks.

        [–]ReformSociety 11 points12 points  (8 children)

        If a class of mine has 15 chicks, only one is going to actually be hot

        20% of 15 chicks = 3 hot chicks...?

        [–]freew33zy 10 points11 points  (7 children)

        I know. What I'm saying is that there are not 3 hot chicks; therefore, being top 20% is not enough because two dudes are still better than you, and they're the ones getting the actual hot chick.

        [–]mx3552 9 points10 points  (6 children)

        Where the fuck do you live dude... sounds like you're just at the wrong spot for hot girls.

        [–]freew33zy 3 points4 points  (5 children)

        I go to a Big Ten University, and I come from a wealthy East Coast area. Most chicks are just not hot if you look at the total population.

        [–]SeedThrownAway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Especially considering these stats are of the general population... Considering the vantage point of an attractive woman, average is short. To be "Top 20%" in terms of the pareto distribution is more like Top 10%-5%

        [–]-El_Charles_Vane- 97 points98 points  (34 children)

        Also something that might want to be touched on is overweight stats in the usa according to the CDC-

        Percent of adults aged 20 and over with obesity: 37.9% (2013-2014)

        Percent of adults aged 20 and over with overweight, including obesity: 70.7% (2013-2014)

        If you at least around 14% body fat your more than likely around the 20% range. Now i Do not know if there is a national average of body fat percentage study (i did not look to hard) but if you at least eating right and working out there is no reason why your body should not be in the 25% range.

        [–]MyReddit6 56 points57 points  (7 children)

        its disgusting, I read somewhere that US avg bodyfat is close to 27%

        thats INSANE! 27%!!!!! that means next to NO arm definition and visible fold of fat

        [–]vlada_ 12 points13 points  (4 children)

        is that average for us males, or overall population?

        [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 26 points27 points  (3 children)

        LOL yeah crucial distinction

        [–]vlada_ 11 points12 points  (2 children)

        not sure if you're sarcastic, so i'll explain i guess. it is important since healthy body fat % for women is higher than for men. 27% average for men would be horrible really. that's almost obese.

        [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        Yeah I know I wasn’t being sarcastic. I was laughing cuz the other guy apparently didn’t realize this obviously important factor. I was agreeing w you.

        [–]vlada_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        ye i figured, but this is reddit, had to check sorry :)

        [–]BrownGummyBear 12 points13 points  (1 child)

        I start feeling like a fat fuck at 14%-16% bf and start cutting... this is pathetic lol

        [–]Thunder__Fuck 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Percent of adults aged 20 and over with overweight, including obesity: 70.7% (2013-2014)

        Holy shit, that is....not good.

        [–]Its_the_other_tj 24 points25 points  (24 children)

        I was 235 at 6'4. Decided to get my diet together and started climbing 3 times a week. Got down to 210 in a few months and had more then a few women make comments like "oh you're so skinny now" or "i like my men to have a little cushion". I was still fiveish lbs overweight by bmi and to a lot of these girls that was abnormal. The GF did the same and got similar results but i mostly chalk that up to female jealousy. Just (anecdotally) goes to show how normalized obesity is in America.

        [–]Final_Pantasy 29 points30 points  (0 children)

        They probably just want to bring you down a notch. Jealousy leads to manipulation so they can make themselves feel better for not taking care of themselves.

        [–]reluctantly_red 15 points16 points  (16 children)

        had more then a few women make comments like "oh you're so skinny now" or "i like my men to have a little cushion".

        Women do this shit all the time. They want their guys to be attractive but they also want to be able to control them. Don't let it happen.

        I'm 6'4" too. This morning I weighed 202 lbs (down from over 330). Still need to lose about 25 pounds. Lean athletic guys weigh less than a lot of people seem to think.

        [–]Riftactics 20 points21 points  (9 children)

        You want to weigh 180 at 6‘4‘‘?

        Go lift. Like seriously, you tryna disappear or some shit?

        [–]drty_pr 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Here I am at 5'8"/ 190/14% wishing I had more muscle.

        [–]InstigatingDrunk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        you're underestimating invisibility!!

        [–]BydandMathias 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        A buddy of mine is 150-160 at 6'4. I've been trying to encourage this skinnyfuck to head to the gym with me, but he legitimately has obligations that make it difficult to go.

        [–]reluctantly_red 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        180 to 185 pounds or so is not insignificant. In football lots of wide receivers and safeties are that size. Lots of basketball players too. Back in 1980 I went to the Alberta High School Provincial Wrestling Championships at 186 pounds (yeah I'm that old).

        I do lift BTW.

        [–]Its_the_other_tj 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Haha, yeah i absolutely gave 0 fucks about them saying it. It was a personal choice to be healthier, live longer, and look better naked. It's just kinda crazy that so many people find being overweight "normal". Grats on the weight loss bro! Keep it up! I stalled out and kinda floated around 210-215 for a while. Recently got some concerning news from the doctor though which has me cutting waaaaay back on the drinking. Without those extra calories i should be reaching my goal weight (195) in a month or so. Looking forward to seeing my abs again heh.

        [–]p3n1x 4 points5 points  (4 children)

        BMI is a joke. I'm 6'6 250, am I fat?

        to a lot of these girls that was abnormal.

        Calling BS, those women were selling you a shaming tactic and you bought it. If your frame is right, 5lbs is not an issue anywhere in the world.

        [–]Its_the_other_tj 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Maybe your fat maybe your not? You should go get your body fat checked if you have questions about it. It's better for your heart then randomly lashing out at people online.

        Who said I bought anything? It was an observation about what people I interacted with thought was normal weight actually being overweight. As I stated in another reply I was losing the weight for personal health and aesthetic reasons. I wasn't deterred from living longer and looking better naked by hearing what other people think. At least I'm guessing that's what you took from my post?

        [–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        At least I'm guessing that's what you took from my post?

        Yes, you give the impression that you care what those people think. Grow some thicker skin if you think you are being lashed at.

        BMI is not an effective way to describe your health or your looks. I said "BMI is a joke", you weren't able to extrapolate that I was being a smartass about the whole thing. I am sitting here at 117/77, those numbers say more for your heart than BMI.

        [–]LordOfTheReptiles 84 points85 points  (18 children)

        Good post, but I hope that readers keep these things in mind in a healthy way. You can be a top 20% man without really realizing it, and many men fall under this category and still fail in dating. I work in tech, and know plenty of guys who earn well over $100k, are above average height, decent shape, have some cool hobbies, and still do not date the women they want to, or any women at all, because they do not know how to talk to women.

        On the other side of this, there are men who don't reach the top in any of these categories and still pull women "out of their league" because they either have strong game, or use PUA bullshit. The point is, you can reach most of these goals fairly easily - although not necessarily quickly - and still be a social outcast.

        If you want to be a top 20% man, and also be perceived that way, then it requires more than just these numbers that you can write out on a spreadsheet. For example, a guy earning $150k may not look like he does if he dresses like shit, doesn't have a presentable apartment, and gets overly drunk and awkward when he's out. It is important that people who digest this sort of information understand that even if you reach these goals there isn't going to be some giant halo around you that lets everyone know your worth. You have to show that through things like your actions, your clothes, you charisma, etc.

        Men seem to obsess over things like numbers and statistics. "If only I was 2 inches taller then I could fuck more women". They think that reaching the numbers you listed will magically give them this all access pass to sex, and it doesn't if you don't know how to capitalize on it and demonstrate it in healthy ways. I hope your message isn't lost on them in this regard.

        [–]kril89 31 points32 points  (5 children)

        Men get so stuck on height and dick size. The two things that you have zero way of changing with out some very expensive and risky surgery for both of them. If you dress well, lift, and starting doing fun exciting things you'll easily go into the top 20.

        [–]SuperCrazy07 34 points35 points  (3 children)

        Men get so stuck on height and dick size.

        Height yes. But, in the real world, I've NEVER heard any guys worrying about their dick size. Maybe it's the anonymity of the internet (i.e. people don't want to tell their real world friends they have a small dick) or the average age of TRP, but Jesus Christ. Unless you have a one inch or a ten inch dick, it doesn't matter.

        As far as the girls go - if they are into you, you have a big dick. When they hate your guts, you have a small one. It has nothing to do with reality.

        [–]LordOfTheReptiles 12 points13 points  (1 child)

        The author of the Sex God Method admitted to having a 5" dick, yet his book teaches you how to give women mind blowing sex regardless of the size of your dick. I think the major issue is that men focus on the physical, a lot of which comes from growing up and "learning" sex from watching porn, while sex is overwhelmingly more about the emotional/mental side for women.

        [–]Operator216 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        This. Stop obsessing about cock size. Get better at fucking. Being bigger helps, but if you focus on that you'll end up hyper focusing and forget about the more important parts of 'the game.'

        [–]dnkfkr 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        100%. I remember asking a friend about this, and she said: "Do you remember exactly what each vagina looked like? We don't really care as long as he's good in bed and not abnormally small". If you are much over 7" you are going to bottom out on most girls anyways.

        [–]trollreign 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        This is by far the most important comment here.

        If you have discipline, your intelligence is above average, and your looks (face, height) are about average, then it is fairly easy to build a body and a career that puts you in the top 20% of men.

        The hard bit is to achieve social dominance, that is, to have a group of "cool" friends among whom you are the quasi-leader. Or similarly, to develop a personality that lets you make friends easily and kind of "dominate" in a group of strangers that you just met.

        These social skills of interacting with fellow men are of course in addition to the social skills required to talk to women and sexualise the conversation / escalate. You can be a great conversationalist as well, but it's worth jack shit if you can only talk about intellectual topics and small talk without having any sexual charge to the interaction.

        As you said, the spreadsheet numbers are easy, the "soft skills" are hard

        [–]3LiveAFTSOV 93 points94 points  (1 child)

        Great write up and post.

        You showed this truth:

        Each consecutive percentile is 1 million times harder than the last.

        It's easier for a mediocre man to become top 20% than it is for a 5% man to become 1%

        [–]PepinoSF 46 points47 points  (0 children)

        Natural logarithmic scale. I concur with that statement.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillcad 27 points28 points  (8 children)

        N count doesn't matter if she thinks your N count is high.

        Next thing you know your N count IS HIGH

        [–]Chitlinsandgravy 8 points9 points  (4 children)

        Go monk mode. Tell em your abstinent(don't explain monk mode). They'll try to take your new virginity.

        [–]mingamo 20 points21 points  (3 children)

        I don't know a single hoe who wants to bang a virgin for the sake of banging a virgin

        [–]Chitlinsandgravy 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        Think you missed my context. Not an actual virgin. The 1st to pop the monk mode cherry.

        [–]ahab_dies 44 points45 points  (11 children)

        Thanks bro, I didn't realise I am actually already in the top 20%.

        I think the problem with a lot of these though is that women don't see the reality.

        The height thing? They see tall guys they want all the time through media.

        Dick size? They see big dicks in porn or hear about them constantly through music and other media.

        It goes on through the other areas too.

        My point being that they all want the top 5% or even 1% because that's what is shown to them on a daily basis. It doesn't matter that they don't see it in reality and only through a screen, that's still what they come to expect. They don't care that the guy hitting on them is technically in the top 20%, they have their sights aimed on the 5/1% guys.

        But thanks for the lift up, bro.

        [–]bingobangogringo 25 points26 points  (5 children)

        In fairness, most of us would be the exact same with women.

        I've already seen a comment saying "even if you're top 20% you're still not going to get the hottest girl in the room." because a top 1% guy will get her. But why should we want the hottest girl in the room? Why would we not be satisfied with a top 20% female?

        [–]gattaca_ 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        But why should we want the hottest girl in the room?

        What guys want: Sex with a harem of perfect 10s (think Leonardo DiCaprio and his entourage of Victoria's Secret models).

        If we could live this lifesystyle, most of us would.

        Why would we not be satisfied with a top 20% female?

        Guys want both quality and quantity but almost everyone settles on one or both of these dimensions.

        Eventually all guys settle realizing the time and effort isn't worth the reward or simply isn't achievable.

        [–]ahab_dies 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I thought about this and I disagree. I think the vast vast majority of men are far less selective than women.

        For men it's about fitting into a top bracket. For women it's more of a pass or fail test. If shes pretty and kinda cute, she passes. If she's fat and/or and ugly, she fails.

        [–]Goldenhead17 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        I completely agree with you on this. To add, the media can portray these aspects of a guy much easier than they can, say, his personality or lifestyle. Online judgements are mostly aesthetic but I think a lot of girls have trouble seeing the difference between their real life and how they expect their real life to play out.

        [–]Uncle_T_123 19 points20 points  (4 children)

        Its the top 1-3% not 20%. I was easily in the top 20% in my late 30's and it meant nothing. I was Filet Mignon to single mothers and 40+ wall hitters but to the prime 27-30, never married types I was invisible. They wanted Chad or better yet trust fund Chad and that was it.

        [–]conflagratorX 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        I am 31 and I am in top 20% except n-count (which should mean shit as I can always lie about it) according to OP criteria. On dating apps I'm mostly invisible. I guess OP forget to mention facial features as VERY important indicator of being in top 20%.

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        [–]TheBadGoy 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        I've been seeing guys do this more often, care to elaborate?

        [–]ghosts_of_me 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        Your cash stays in the business not your bank account, less gets eaten by tax.

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        [–]Master_Elrond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Lol heard that one a few times

        [–]OODBX 41 points42 points  (2 children)

        Fuck being top 20%. I'm gonna be 100% of what I am...a nigga that don't need validation from no THOT.

        [–]mingamo 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        Remarkably well said D'Quavis

        [–]_quote 24 points25 points  (8 children)

        According to this, I'm in the top 20% but In my opinion, alpha-ness is genetic and transcends all of these things. I know average looking guys who are short, poor, and apparently have a small dick from what I hear. Yet they are inherently attractive to girls. Some guys are just really low inhibition, high testosterone, and girls can tell instantly. If you're a tall, debt free, 72000 dollar making, long penis having beta you're still fucked when it comes to dating.

        [–]trees_away 2 points3 points  (6 children)

        This.

        I’ve noticed the change over the past year and a half on TRP. As I’ve become more assertive, dominant, and masculine, that’s all that has mattered. I looksmaxed everything but my body immediately (body in progress - 287lbs at 6’4”, 24% BF from 340 1.5 years ago) but it wasn’t until my testosterone got right (from TRT) and i started not giving a fuck what people thought of me and being unafraid to stand up for myself that women began to take notice. I’m sure as I lean out it’ll make an even bigger difference, but I can tell that even then woman wouldn’t have responded to me like they do now if I wasn’t sporting the cocky, confident personality that I wear now.

        [–]_quote 2 points3 points  (5 children)

        Nice job on the progress. I'm happy to hear TRT is working for you. I would love to get on roids myself but I can't justify it as my T levels are already high. It's pretty funny how we are the exact opposite. I've been reading this sub almost for the entire time it has existed. So being unplugged is old news for me, I've been a jaded motherfucker since high school.

        Despite being in insane physical condition from quitting drugs, doing physical labor, and cycling all summer, I still can't get laid. It's not that I'm beta per se, but something built deep into my personality is not attractive to girls. It's like they can tell that I'm a science loving, video game playing weirdo even if I never talk about it. Sucks to have niche interests.

        [–]SeedThrownAway 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Shooting from the hip here, but maybe there's something deep in your personality that you think is unattractive to girls, but in reality, they wouldn't care or even notice.

        Or maybe it's buried trauma?

        Idk, guess I can relate.

        [–]Bruchibre 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        It's all about the sample. You are talking about 80th percentile overall. But if you say all college students, or all expats, the percentile changes a lot.

        So for n-count, same. If you look at girls who go to club, 25 is probably not the 92 percentile but more like the 40th lol

        [–]felipebarroz 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        About Height: it would be better to check stats regarding young adults.

        99% of TRP are 30- y.o., and Height changed A LOT between generations. Our grandparents were smaller and shorter than us due lots of reasons, including lack of a balanced diet and lack of medical knowledge and health services.

        [–]blacklightsleaze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yea almost all the younger 15-20 yo guys are tall then me. And some of them still have room to grow.

        [–]Samatic 9 points10 points  (3 children)

        So to sum it up if your all this you are in the Top 20% of men correct?

        If you’re 5’11’’ or above you are in the 80th percentile for height.

        If you’re above 5.7 inches then you’re in the 80th percentile.

        If you are 30 years old and have banged 21 women you’re in the 80th percentile

        If you are 25 and have banged 16 women you’re in the 80th percentile.

        If you have zero savings and no debt – you’re ahead of 85% of the population in the US

        If you make $72,000 a year in the US you’re in the 80th percentile for income.

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          [–]Mr_Tomorrow_ 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          Women lie about their n count. They only count relationships and somewhat boyfriends. Anyone they one-nighted or used as a booty call / side-dude doesn’t get added into their count.

          They know they’re viewed as less attractive after so many dicks have been in them. That’s why most lie about it.

          I’ve had female friends (who I’m not attracted to - thus no sex) straight up TRY to lie to me even when I knew better. They can’t help it.

          One last thing, when you ask a girl “how long have you been single?”, and they give some asinine response like “2 years,” please don’t think they haven’t had dick in 2 years. They’ve had plenty in that 2 years. But, they’ll gladly accept your assumption of them being untouched though.

          Good write up amigo. Appreciate the research.

          [–]1-Fidelio- 24 points25 points  (9 children)

          Didn't san francisco recently start offering $100,000 or so a year for poop-shovelers or something because they were short on them? You could be in top 20% earning doing an easy (if nasty) job.

          These are some interesting benchmarks. Great post, assuming the claims are true.

          However, the claim that "you're likely are ahead of the game" is false by definition if the goal is to be top 20%.

          [–]Gainznsuch 18 points19 points  (5 children)

          Not if 51% of the subs followers are in the top 20% already. I'd argue that a good number of people in this sub are of a competitive personality type and strive to become the best they can be. You don't hang around here unless you are constantly looking for ways to improve, and that attitude in itself puts you far ahead of most of the pack. That being said, if you're here then you probably are competing enough that these life metrics are far more easily attainable than you thought. For instance, my n-count is 22 and I figured it should be around 50 for me to be in the top 20% at my age.

          [–]3LiveAFTSOV 25 points26 points  (4 children)

          . You don't hang around here unless you are constantly looking for ways to improve, and that attitude in itself puts you far ahead of most of the pack.

          LOL. Are you forgetting this is a forum created by sexually frustrated men, who couldn't get laid?

          People come here cus they have problems with women, THEN stay for the self improvement and memes.

          its maslows hierarchy.

          [–]bevocoin 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          I think it's a mix of men frustrated by Western women for various reasons, not all of which involve not being able to get laid.

          [–]3LiveAFTSOV 10 points11 points  (1 child)

          High SMV men who spin plates are not worried about women what so ever

          [–]bevocoin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Until they lose custody of their kids to a homeless alcoholic bipolar c*nt who didn't start out that way.

          [–]Gainznsuch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          No, I'm not forgetting. I considered that to be an attempt at self improvement. Granted, the ones that stick around for other reasons are the ones that are likely close to or already hitting the OPs benchmarks. At least, that's what I would guess.

          [–]eccentricrealist 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Where do you get to live on such a salary in San Francisco?

          [–]3LiveAFTSOV 14 points15 points  (0 children)

          In a mobile home

          [–]BlackMarmoset 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          The problem is that if you're not in the top 20% with the qualities you can show her, it doesn't really matter if you're in the top 1% beneath the surface.

          I think it's more a weighted than a standard average.

          [–]stokacanec 8 points9 points  (17 children)

          I am 5'5'' and my penis is 5.4 inches. N-count at 23 is 6. I'm the top 20% of debt and earnings.

          I have no control over my height and penis length, which means I'll forever be handicapped against other men in those aspects. How am I supposed to accept this and prevent it from bringing down my self-esteem?

          [–]TheMajesticDoge 10 points11 points  (3 children)

          Not focusing on them? By going the natural path of self-improvement(meditation, lifting, reading etc.) you will realise that you don't need to worry about that shit.

          [–]stokacanec 6 points7 points  (2 children)

          I lift and read, and will likely start meditation soon. I agree that I should not focus on them, but it's really really hard when I'm surrounded by people taller than me.

          E.g. I approached a few girls in a club last week, got immediately rejected by all of them. Then some very tall and muscular guy walked in, and I could see one of the girls that rejected me literally not being able to take her eyes off him. She approached him and they left together.

          That kind of shit fucks me up, as no matter how much I lift I'll never be able to match those body types.


          Even if I have incel-like thoughts at times, I don't want to be an incel. I'll keep trying and self-improving until I can, giving up is not an option.

          [–]ebaymasochist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Stop going to clubs and go to the grocery store instead.. Everyone's gotta eat. Not everyone goes to the clubs. I bet that 7 foot guy is not approaching at the grocery store, but you are. She'll think you must have a giant dick to pull that off.. And once it's in, you won.

          [–]SeedThrownAway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Clubs are designed for to give 98% of the population anxiety so they'll buy overpriced drinks.

          The hot girls get to strut, Chad's get laid, and the owners get paid.

          Keep grinding, and find an environment where height doesn't matter.

          [–]Snazzy_Serval 4 points5 points  (5 children)

          How'd you manage to get 6 girls by 23?

          I'm 36, 5'5 and my n-count is 2 :(

          My penis is bigger than yours but I make far less money. Want to trade?

          The only thing this guys post did was make me feel more depressed.

          [–]stokacanec 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          How'd you manage to get 6 girls by 23?

          Met one at uni, one while traveling, the rest from Tinder.


          I know it sucks but crying over it doesn't change anything. We both are greatly disadvantaged because of our height, but we have no control over it. Better suck it up and keep grinding

          [–]MurkyArtichoke 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          It's really tough dealing with something you can't change. You can improve your body, make more money by working hard, but you can't change your height or penis-size. It's always been a huge burden for me too, considering my penis size is even slightly smaller than yours, and i'm 5'9". Used to be extremely shy even being naked in locker-rooms. Thing is, you just have to accept it and try not to think about it. Don't act insecure, that's what girls notice. My N-count is around 13 at 26. I've never had any girls complain about my penis, but then again, i guess it's extremely rare if a girl would actually bring that up, that's just rude. I have no doubt some girls i've been with have thought that though. But some of the girls i've slept with have wanted more, so surely it can't be that bad? I've begun thinking that if a girl doesn't want to be with me because of the size of my dick, then she's a shallow bitch and i dodged a bullet.

          [–]Supremedis 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Surprise surprise, you can change your penis size and height.

          [–]EveryGodDamnDay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          By not basing your self esteem on comparison with others. Self esteem is an idea in your own head. You make it what you want.

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          [–]TheMajesticDoge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Do you make 10% in NYC? Can't really compare making something like 6 figures to 6 figures in Kansas or whatever. But you are right on the other stuff, being 20% in something puts you ahead but it depends on competition. It's a little bit harder to be 20% on Tinder than in real life but it's still pretty fuckin easy.

          [–]Savaaage 22 points23 points  (10 children)

          Is the N-count really that important? What if you generally don't give a fuck on how many girls someone has beded? Because I really don't give a fuck

          One red pill principle I never agreed with: Go and fuck as many girls as you can before settling down. *after bedding 70 women 10 years later * Huh?? Where are all the good girls at? Where the fuck is my Virgin bride??

          [–]askmrcia 14 points15 points  (2 children)

          Is the N-count really that important? What if you generally don't give a fuck on how many girls someone has beded?

          I think you mean guys your girl been with? In any case it's only a problem if everyone knows your girl was a whore and if you're girl is holding back sex, making you wait giving you boring sex when she most likely didn't for all the other guys she's banged.

          Those are the two main reasons why n count matters. Other reasons are subjective, such as pair bonding and shit like that.

          One red pill principle I never agreed with: Go and fuck as many girls as you can before settling down. *after bedding 70 women 10 years later * Huh?? Where are all the good girls at? Where the fuck is my Virgin bride??

          You have somewhat of a point here, but I still feel you're looking at it wrong. No one is saying to fuck as many girls as possible. I mean you can if that's what you want to do.

          What is being said is you don't want to be the guy that has only been with two women while getting with a chick who's been around. Because if that's the case, you are basically cucking yourself.

          The spinning plates thing comes into play because most people here preach against ltrs. So spinning plates is the alternative.

          [–]Gettingaware 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Is cucking yourself the issue here? I always assumed that the whole point of learning game and fucking lots of chicks was to blow up the illusion that women are special.

          With so much effort and time killing the beta, or atleast morphing into something better. I believe that, the lessons we learned but dont fully comprehend would become internalized and more satisfying, then finding the perfect woman. Lessons like you are the prize, and the importance of self love.

          Its hard to care about how the woman treats me, when i understand it was me, to have failed to set boundaries, and failed to spot bad behavior due to fantasizing the woman and situation at hand.

          And its hard to waste energy caring about if i am good enough for her when, i realize how much time i wasted not taking care of myself and my own family and friends.

          Im not pretending to have figured it out. Im actually asking, is it more important to develop game and self actualization in order to have the tools needed to destroy neediness and be able to control ones situation moreso than if one didn't learn game?

          Or is that just another western ideal that builds ones ego and distracts us from whats really important, the fact that you can only control how you react to the chaos. The fact that we as humans are 9nly for ourselves and not for all people, and that we're not actually free or trying to obtain freedom.

          Sorry if this sounds stupid guys, normally i would write this out, realuze how far gone i sound and delete it. But im leaving this up. Thanks for reading.

          [–]ebaymasochist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I think something that needs to be mentioned is that if you don't fix your internal problems, fucking a thousand different women won't make you "happy" or more accurately, fulfilled. It's just overcompensating for something that's missing. Like trying to fill a bucket of water with a hole in it.. More water won't fix the bucket.

          There's also something called narcissistic supply, and I think it's relevent because everyone has some degree of narcissism and these forum probably draw more of that crowd. Narcissistic supply is the good feelings we are able to pull from others' praise and validation.. Once that goes away there's not much left and the person crumbles to where they were before, and even lower. There is no self esteem built on real connection, just ego.

          [–]fullyincorruptible 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          being in the top 20% of 50% of the worlds population 100% of the time... 40% of the time it works every time

          [–]Hoodwink 4 points5 points  (3 children)

          The Debt statistics is misleading. You can be doing well and have debt. A doctor buying a house is going to be in debt.

          [–]TheMajesticDoge 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Of course, it depends on the situation, but still, probably the majority of people are more fucked financially than you think.

          [–]Hoodwink 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          I'm not denying that. I'm just saying that the number doesn't take into account responsible debt.

          Not all debt is bad which is what statistic seems to claim.

          I assume the statistic is personal, consumer debt rather than business debt.

          [–]fingers144 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          If you wear clothes that are clean and that fit you, paired with some grooming standards, you are wayahead of the game.

          [–]kn4- 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          I'm no stats guy but I imagine if you're in the top 20% for all of these you would be well into the top 20% of males overall.

          [–]Snazzy_Serval 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Uh, thanks for pointing out how bad off I am.

          The only thing that I'm in the 'top 20%' of is dick size, and it's not even 7 inches. Regardless it's the most useless one as it doesn't help me get laid.

          [–]Gospel_of_Fredbird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          This makes me feel a lot better. lol

          [–]bevocoin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Easily top 20% in everything but debt. And probably body fat.

          [–]thirdincomestream 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          If you have zero savings and no debt – you’re ahead of 85% of the population in the US

          This is the reddest pill in this post

          [–]jeromeantoinecarter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          None of this helps if you're an ugly fucker though...

          [–]sjdfhskdjfh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I'm in the 95+ percentile is basically every metric except height (5'5"). Everything else I've accomplished barely makes up for that. It's pretty upsetting.

          [–]listenhereboi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          And no, you’re not eight inches long.

          Unless my ruler is not being truthful with me, I beg to differ.

          [–]Drumcode-Equals-Life 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          TIL that I’m in the Top 20% for all these metrics except height (5’10”)

          [–]xtsv 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          tfw in the top 20% for everything except N-count and Earnings.

          I'm 100% sure the earnings will improve over time, but I doubt the N-count will.

          [–]Iwannachokekatie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Seems like the take away is that I should migrate to the US.

          [–]frooschnate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Did you measure my peepee while I slept Atti?

          [–]ToryTosh1922 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Great post. Really puts things into perspective.

          [–]jomike85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I meet all this criteria, except at the moment, I’m no longer making over 72k......and I never get laid.

          [–]Blackops_21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Apparently I'm the perfect guy? Damnit man. Now I'm thinking my girlfriend isn't good enough

          [–]Hormander 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Those figures are way below than one could imagine. Thanks for this post.

          [–]superyute 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          do you have sources you can link to for these analyses? especially the N-Count bit

          [–]SpecOpsAlpha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Pareto’s Principle makes it to the Red Pill! Awesome!

          [–]conflagratorX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Do you really think that for casual hookup things such as earnings and debt matters?

          [–]Greek-God-Brody 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Blackpill no.1: Most of you who believe you are in the top 20%, are not

          Blackpill no.2: Your looks (face + SMV) make up 80% of your SMV

          Blackpill no.3: 5'11 is barely above manlet-tier in 2018. The younger generation is getting taller and taller. I'm 27, 6 ft and routinely bump into girls that are 5'10 and above.

          [–]VoidInvincible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          If I am 5'9 but 5'10 in lifts can I still say 6 foot?

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