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Red Pill Theory'If' by Rudyard Kipling is a poem every man should take very seriously (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by dude_idek

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

Growing up, my father had this poem framed and put up in 3 rooms of my house. I was basically raised through it. It's gold. It's more than just a poem, they're introductory guidelines. What are you thoughts ?


[–]4D6N2 217 points218 points  (20 children)

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

And treat those two impostors just the same;

The essence of stoicism right here. This is one of the most important lines in the poem. The external never affects the internal.

[–]RPFlame 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And the base requirement for frame. It's not always about the events, it's the inner interpretation that affects you.

A youtube comment from one of the linked videos in this thread also says "It's essentially the philosophy of Seneca, in a poem."

[–]J_AsapGem 7 points8 points  (15 children)

Question though, i'm all for stoicism but shouldn't we act accordingly? i mean we have emotions for a reason and i seriously think we take the stoicism thing over board, YES we should keep our composure if needed too but all i'm saying is we should also enjoy the " high " of the instant gratification of temporary happiness sometimes, it does feel good, i'm agreeing with you but i hope you get what i'm trying to say.

[–]Chozo_Joe 71 points72 points  (2 children)

Typically within stoicism it's not that we can't enjoy the "high" we feel from success, it's that we shouldn't base our happiness on it.

For example, you start a business or become a great investor and as a result, you have become wealthy. Stoicism doesn't discourage this, nor does it discourage you being happy with your wealth. It discourages you basing your happiness on you being wealthy. Your happiness comes from you. Some wealthy stoics regularly practiced poverty for this reason. I hope that helps answer your question.

[–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (1 child)

all i'm saying though is like, don't forget to live and enjoy life, everything you said is completely true but it's not bad to enjoy a successful moment now and again, it's what makes us human, hope you see what i'm trying to say

[–]JackGetsIt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Like he said, you CAN enjoy it. But you must except that it will pass, and so will sorrow. 'This too shall pass' is the essence of stoicism.

[–]Eyeswears 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Not being jubilated or eviscerated by things outside of our control often gets construed to mean we shouldn't let anything affect us, which is wrong. If your favorite professional football team wins, and you're only a spectator or armchair coach, you really shouldn't feel any pride and joy in it. But if your girlfriend surprises you with your favorite movie to watch on a Friday night, absolutely take pride and joy in the fact you worked hard to cultivate a strong a stable relationship, but don't let yourself fall prey to the thinking those results will simply remain without continuing to put in the work.

[–]CaptainRaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

correction: "don't let yourself fall prey to thinking those results will remain, forever" Remember, everything can be taken away, and this is not a bad thing (its just life).

[–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (2 children)

but don't let yourself fall prey to the thinking those results will simply remain without continuing to put in the work.

you totally miss my point, i'm not saying to rely on it, i'm saying to enjoy the instant gratification sometimes, IN OTHER words don't be a robot all the time, i understand the stoic remain calm and keep your composure, all i'm saying is don't forget to enjoy life.

[–]10211799107 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Let me try to frame my view and see if this makes sense.

Stoicism is the practice of changing what you can and accepting the things you can not. It's living right now in the moment, not fettering about the future(you can't change it, it's not here yet) nor regret the past(it happened, out of your control so move on. Right now, in this moment, you can change your mindset and change your outlook. Here's an example:

You start a business and it takes off and you make a shit ton of money. Right now, you have tons of money. You sit back and enjoy it. You feel euphoria. YOu feel good. Then, after a couple minutes/hours, you sit back and reflect what just happended. You enjoyed it, you felt good, and now you think about it. Is it a constant flow of millions in cash that will last forever? no. So decide that you will, at this moment, do whatever you can to generate more money. Relish the feeling, feel your body and enjoy the happiness. Your rational thinking knows it won't last, but you know in this moment you're happy. here is the critical moment like others have said. Don't let this be your sole source of happiness in the future. Don't base your happiness, or wait for it to come, when you think you need to reach this state of wealth again. That's the difference. The ability to udnerstand what is temporary and what you can't control.
Another is when people are arguing politics. You know now from your studies in philosophy and human behaviour that all of us suffer from cognitive dissonance. No matter what you say or do or present how many facts you will not change someone's view about their ideology. So in that moment, you can't control the outcome so you make a rational decision if you're goin gto participate, or not. What you can control is your thoughts and keepng your mouth shut, and you can't control other's views so why bother.

[–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was basically what i was trying to imply in a nutshell, you worded it better.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Emotion is the wind that moves the sail. The stoic is the calm captain who uses the wind and waves to his advantage.

A stoic doesn't ignore his emotions. In fact since he faces them head on you could say he feels them more intensely, but he never lets them toss his ship or tear his sail.

[–]Ozymanberg 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Exactly. Stoicism explains that we will and should feel emotions because we're human but it's up to us how we deal with the emotions and how much it affects our well-being.

[–]fenghsui 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I find this stoicism thing a bit disingenuous, honestly. What we really mean is simply 'manly Greek and Roman values'. Stoicism is not about maintaining equanimity - if anything, Epicureanism is more focused on that - but on having a reason for maintaining equanimity, i.e. behaving in accordance with Nature or the Right or what we would think of as God. Yet, most TRPers don't think those things are knowable, especially not in Capitalized form.

[–]RPmatrix 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What we really mean is simply 'manly Greek and Roman values'

Er, NO, that's Not what 'stoicism' refers to.

You need to recheck your definition of the word, "stoicism" and correct your semantic errors.

stoicism ˈstəʊɪsɪz(ə)m/ noun noun: stoicism; noun: Stoicism

1.

  • the endurance of pain or hardship without the display of feelings and without complaint.

    synonyms:

    patience, forbearance, resignation, lack of protest, lack of complaint, fortitude, endurance, acceptance, acceptance of the inevitable, fatalism, philosophicalness, impassivity, dispassion, phlegm, imperturbability, calmness, coolness, cool;

2.

  • an ancient Greek school of philosophy founded at Athens by Zeno of Citium. The school taught that virtue, the highest good, is based on knowledge;

  • the wise live in harmony with the divine Reason (also identified with Fate and Providence) that governs nature, and are indifferent to the vicissitudes of fortune and to pleasure and pain.

[–]wisty 1 point2 points  (1 child)

i mean we have emotions for a reason

Like almost everything (especially in psychology), emotions can be adaptive and maladaptive, especially if they're taken to an extreme.

There was a study on racehorses. They found that the best racehorses are those with average proportions. Average is highly underrated. In many ways, average performance comes from extremes, and great performance comes from being very average.

Emotional stability is one of those things where the population average is less than ideal though - generally most people are a bit too emotional. Humans didn't evolve to deal with first world problems.

[–]InChargeMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Daylight savings is killing me! Uhh, my body thinks it is a whole hour later, I can barely stay up late enough to watch Hawaii 5-0."

Meanwhile in much of the world:

"Daylight savings is Warlords are killing me! Uhh, my body thinks it is a whole hour later, I can barely stay up late enough to watch Hawaii 5-0. family is dead"

[–]tralfaz66 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Actually I'd call this the heart of Zen

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[–]JackGetsIt 22 points23 points  (0 children)

William Ernest Henley. 1849–1903

Invictus

OUT of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

[–]penis_butter_n_jelly 22 points23 points  (0 children)

My head is bloody, but unbowed.

[–]sfstexan 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I thought that was just joining a fraternity starter pack

[–]jm51 32 points33 points  (0 children)

If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breathe a word about your loss;

That's the one I had trouble with for a while.

Then it occurred to me that being able to do it and usually choosing not to is a lot different than doing it just because you can.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

"If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"

Very important point. In all my endeavors, those around me(family and friends) would always try to dissuade me or try to convince me I'm crazy or misguided. Every single time. Whether it was when I started to lift hardcore, travel across the country to find an oil job, or travel to Thailand alone. I remember reciting this line to myself and gaining strength and courage. Fuck the allowance for their doubting though.. at least in this society. Other than a few monks, and probably my old martial arts teacher, I haven't met anyone whose "doubting" was worth taking into account. Everyone elses doubts leads them back to the fucking bottle, couch, or to the teat of their surrogate mothers.

It's a powerful poem and I wouldn't care if I saw it posted everyday. I remember when I first saw it actually, in the hall of some boys highschool I was training at. I just stood in the hallway for a while reading it over.

[–]koolaid_zombie 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The part about making allowances is still important in the sense that you acknowledge doubts from others and examine them long enough to see if there's logical backing to them.

If your friend tells you, "You can't jump off that bridge because the water is only 6 inches deep," you have to have a system in place to where you can acknowledge their doubt and realize that they have a solid fucking point and you need to readjust your course.

And if there is no truth to it, like you went out after they said that to you and ran a 10 foot pole into the water and found out it was plenty deep, then you can say, "Fuck em. I know for sure that he's wrong and I can do this no matter what he says."

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree with what you're saying as it applies to practical matters, but I'm referring to a different kind of thing.. people trying to doubt your deeper reasons and trying to undermine your confidence or faith. Basically concern trolling. Logic is important, but it's easy to get stuck in circular logic that ends up only rationalizing inaction or destructive habits. My point is that that's all anyone seems to do these days so a DGAF attitude is more necessary than ever.

[–]asotranq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I interpret the making allowance for their doubting as accepting that some people will not believe in you and might even try to knock you down but you simply internally understand that this will always be the case, and just push past it and don't dislike those who try to take you down

[–]Shmagtaff 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Pretty inspiring. The keyword here is maturity.

[–]pplassm 12 points13 points  (2 children)

My Dad had framed Coolidge quotes. Here is the one I remember most:

Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not: nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not: the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.

Calvin Coolidge

[–]trp_angry_dwarf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love this one.

I've put it above my desk at work.

[–]DodgedAFew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who is Coolidge? Another president?

[–]seducer4real 12 points13 points  (5 children)

The line about not talking about your losses is good

[–]FlexGunship 9 points10 points  (3 children)

It's an important lesson too. As an engineering manager I walk a fine line with my employees (especially younger). I've been in my industry for over a decade and have lots of failures.

Success is for discussion. But failure is for lessons.

[–]winndixiedirty 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I want to learn from you, I'm an entry level engineer interviewing for a management position.

You're saying we need to filter words and say certain things to certain people? Or do you talk about success and failure the same?

[–]FlexGunship 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just my two cents but, definitely have your interview and I wish you luck.

But consider spending time as an engineer. Leaders need time in the shoes of those they lead. You really need a decent history of experience to draw on when difficulties arise.

I'm not bashful about talking about my previous accomplishments and the challenges I've overcome as an engineer. If I bring up a particular failure it's to build empathy and share a brief lesson.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

don't go into management yet. You need more failures under your belt.

[–]Rocky_Bukkake 19 points20 points  (2 children)

lovely poem. here's another, from the dao de jing:

Ancient masters of excellence had a subtle essence,

And a depth too profound to comprehend.

Because they were impossible to comprehend,

I will try to describe them by their appearance.

Cautious, like crossing a river in the winter.

Wary, as if surrounded by strangers.

Dignified, like a guest.

Yielding, like ice about to melt.

Simple, like uncarved wood.

Open, like a valley.

Obscure, like muddy waters.

Who can wait in stillness while the mud settles?

Who can rest until the moment of action?

He who holds on to the Way seeks no excess.

Since he lacks excess,

He can grow old in no need to be renewed.

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    [–]Rocky_Bukkake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    super dope. i like the whole book :D

    [–]Dammad 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Reminds me a little of Desiderata. Link ... I have that framed in my apartment, but got it from my father, too.

    [–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yes, Desiderata and this poem are two absolute Classics!

    I've linked both here several times

    [–]En-Zu 8 points9 points  (9 children)

    Was losing all my friends. Was losing them to drinking and to driving. Was losing all my friends. But I got 'em back.

    [–]TheAceofWands 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    Love this, what connection do you see?

    [–]En-Zu 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    This is a song by brand new, haha. The song quotes heavily from this poem and makes it seem a lot sadder than it actuslly is. Sowing season is the name.

    [–]TheAceofWands 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sorry should have explained this better; Fuck Yeah Brand New! I just didn't correlate this with the lyrics immediately, now I see.

    [–]unicornspudding 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I am now a man. At least now I can say that I am trying. I hope you will forgive Things I still lack.

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      [–]En-Zu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yeah im surprised i saw it. Its really just the verse.

      If you can bear to hear the truth that you have spoken twisted up by knaves and made a trap for fools. If you can bear to watch the things you gave your life to broken, and stoop and build them up with worn out tools.

      Those are probably the most powerful lines in the poem so it makes sense. Its also a good way to remember those lines if you ever want to feel fancy and recite them.

      [–]salamander564 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      [–]PranksterLad 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      Has anyone seen the film 'Mike Basset - England Manager', Here ill attach a clip. This is my favourite scene in ANY movie, and it is about this poem.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TPVtl6Xoew

      [–]808080128128128 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Ladies and gentlemen, England will be playing four four fucking two.

      [–]128bitworm 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Another one I love. Don't remember where I found it though.

      "Never quit, never surrender

      Forever try, until I die

      To brave the storms that

      Life shall bare,

      Someday I'll fly where eagles dare"

      [–]Mr-Ed209 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      England will play 4 4 fucking 2!

      [–]Supersubie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Haha read the whole thing in his voice

      [–]luckinator 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
      Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

      Been there.

      [–]aazav 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It's more than just a poem, they're introductory guidelines.

      Operational principles. Yes.

      [–]dux_belisarius 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      In Canada upon graduating, engineers participate in a ceremony meant primarily to highlight their ethical responsibility. This poem is read and a copy is given to the new engineers.

      [–]EpicHeroKyrgyzPeople 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That ceremony, and the poem, were written by the same Rudyard Kipling. "The ritual of the Calling of an Engineer" is a great example of how a value system can be reinforced through ritual.

      [–]a-e-robson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Heres a quality reading with a good video montage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6aY3Gc5QXc

      [–]Linoran 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Love this poem. My personal favourite:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtBdiNghl7c

      Michael Caine reading and Nigel Farage montage. You might disagree with him politically but he has balls.

      [–]ghee99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Farage is the shit

      Love him!!!

      and Caine knows how to narrate like a champ

      Give them both a coat!!!

      [–]waldo888 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      well I'm about 80% mature and know better my weaknesses haha. This is great.

      [–]xXSoroxXx 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      What's so bad about looking too good? Are we talking like pink fur coat with multiple Cuban chains?

      [–]asotranq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Be humble. There a common saying 'speak less than you know, earn more than you show' which plays into this

      [–]FlexGunship 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Love it. This is a new on to me. Kipling was never much on my radar.

      [–]LiteVisiion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      My 6th grade teacher gave this poem to us, and it still is one of my favorites of all time.

      [–]keytoimmortality 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      What does this part mean? I'm not sure how to interpret it

      If you can fill the unforgiving minute
      With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,

      [–]LosingMoneyAllDay 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Don't waste time. No idling.

      [–]ghee99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      it means if you have a time (minute) in your life when you feel fear or doubt, rather than just pass that time doing nothing, even in those rough times (unforgiving minutes) use every second of that time to move forward, and keep going after what you want.

      in other words, its easy to go after what you want when life is easy, everything is going your way, but also use every second to go forward in the rough times, or when its not so easy, or so clear, or when everyone else isn't there cheering you on

      [–]trp_angry_dwarf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I interpret it as be productive and not idle or a time waster.

      [–]enke796 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Fun fact: in all professional translations to Russian the line:

      you’ll be a Man, my son!

      Changed to:

      you’ll be a Human, my son!

      or

      you’ll be a Person, my son!

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Interesting indeed. You could say that this is because of socialist feminism, but it goes deeper than that. мужчи́на is very... prosaic and bland. You can tell it to someone in a context of "be a man!", but would have much less of an "inspiring", and much more of a "condescending" sound to it. Less "face your destiny" and more "ask her out already".
      Then you have муж , but that sounds archaic, as in "important older man". Although, from that comes a verb that's a better equivalent to "be a man", мужаться . .... I think that if the new wave of conservationism progresses, we might still see a translation with that word.

      Always fascinating how environment, thinking and language are all interconnected.

      [–]ghee99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Awesome poem, and WAY more inspirational than this guy's version of "If"

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk

      [–]mancozbi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Haven't read that in 30 years. It's so alpha male. I'm so far away ...

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        [–]Elodrian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        [–]Rorta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Aside from this and 'Invictus' another brilliant and stoic poem is 'Those Kingly Days' by the British climber George W Young, written after he lost his leg in the First World War. Young walked sixteen miles after his leg had been amputated to avoid capture and then made an artificial leg for himself so he could continue climbing.

        http://adventure.bivibag.com/poetry/i-have-not-lost-the-magic-of-long-days

        [–]raka_defocus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Of broken hearts and dead heroes- Kurt Vonnegut

        Breakfasting with champions Sound nutrition for a growing girl Delicious, too. Damn near perfection.

        Cat in my cradle sharp claws and foreboding meows prophetically scratching out neural canals filled with songs of the way it goes.

        ‘Charm’s a scheme’ – opus in D Major ‘Maturity a bitter disappointment’ – e minor fugue and ‘The purpose of a human life, no matter who’s controlling it is to love whoever’s around to be loved’ – Symphony in C

        Songs to plug in by Lifted by laughter into the network of lovers and livers thinkers and givers titans and dreamers and friends.

        When the overspeed trip triggers it’s good to know that the power’s still flowing ready for next time of plugging in and cooking breakfast.

        [–]TheCasualists 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Guessing you saw Murray's instagram post?

        [–]InChargeMan 0 points1 point  (6 children)

        If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breathe a word about your loss;

        I never liked this part. Seems like a dumb-ass thing to do. Accepting that something bad may have happened to you, and you move on, recover, and don't dwell is a good message, but in this case, it's just being stupid.

        [–]Venny_1 1 point2 points  (5 children)

        Basically it has 2 idea sets. 1st is the courage to take risks in life, and the 2nd would be to move on and not cling to the past if your actions back then turned to be unwise.

        [–]InChargeMan 0 points1 point  (4 children)

        Yeah, I get it, but still, I think that section could be better. Maybe more along the lines of you fail at a worthwhile endeavor, not just lose ALL your cash on a game of chance.

        [–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Yeah, I get it, but still, I think that section could be better

        well, it's time your began writing better than this guy -- How would you say the same in so few words? IF only you could ...

        it's easy to be a critic But it's much harder to produce something 'worthy of criticism'. Go on, show us what you're made of.

        not just lose ALL your cash on a game of chance.

        That's NOT what Kipling meant and if you can only read it that way ... I feel sorry for how you "assume" Kipling was referring to "cash and gambling"!

        Why 'project' your beliefs into this man's words, which millions have extolled?

        and IMO are "self explantory" and in no way suggest that one should " lose ALL your cash on a game of chance."

        [–]InChargeMan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Listen dick, I've been a fan of this work for most of my life, it doesn't make it the bible. Could I make that stanza better, possibly, but that's not my job, especially not to prove it to you.

        Blindly following the teachings of others is not RP, FYI.

        EDIT:

        I feel sorry for how you "assume" Kipling was referring to "cash and gambling"

        By the way, look up "pitch and toss" you dumb shit.

        [–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        ooh, you angry bro?

        lol ... point the finger sunshine ... you've got 3 pointing back!

        [–]jkcrooks90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Heres a video of boxers with that poem being used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS0POjriQMs personal favourite video

        [–]AloysiusC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I grew up with this engraved into copper hanging in my room since before I can remember.

        After each stage in your life you read this again and a few more lines make perfect sense than the last time you read it.

        [–]WaterSpiral 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I needed this now, more than ever. I will regain what i have lost

        [–]SnipTheTipthenSip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        That sums me up quite nicely actually. I was wondering how red pill inwas, this poem makes me feel like I'm there. whew and does it feel good!

        [–]untitled_redditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        "If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken"

        ...Bear :) :) :)

        [–]PlatosBalls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Awesome powem, thanks for this.

        [–]goldnhorde 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Obviously a great poem. Maybe even one that should be memorized and recited every morning as an affirmation to what one might inspire to be.

        Best reading ever .... Grandpa Simpson from The Simpsons.

        [–]BlondedLife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I wanted to thank you for posting this. I'm going to read it again and again. This was very moving.

        [–]evictors 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Great YouTube video incorporating this with Arnold lifting https://youtu.be/ptcqyPg1zus

        [–]theJMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Interesting -- I just went through a Men's Leadership course and this was to be memorized.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I read this poem aloud if anyone's interested: Great poem!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9zk9bR-00

        [–]KingWalt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Do yourself a favor and watch (or convert this to mp3) this video of "If" read by Sir Michael Caine:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWvcwVWCcnY