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Red Pill TheoryIf you want a friend get a dog. If you want loyalty get a dog. If you want a chick magnet get a dog. Just get a dog. (self.TheRedPill)

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10 reasons why you should adopt a dog:

  1. Companionship.
  2. Attracts women when you are walking your dog.
  3. Will make you happy interacting with your dog.
  4. Will give you a new activity to work on.
  5. Will give you a strong reason to invite the woman inside. I had a first date with a woman and the only reason she came inside was to see my dog. We fucked.
  6. Everyone loves dogs. Even most psychopaths. That's why they bring out dogs during finals week to relieve stress.
  7. Will motivate you to go on walks outside and explore your nearby area.
  8. Will give you a reason and something to talk about with women.
  9. Will display that you are responsible.
  10. Dogs are awesome, and having a dog in your life will bring you friendship, happiness, and joy.

Adopting a dog is a responsibility that cannot be taken lightly. These are living creatures. They cost money to take care of. They require attention and care. But if you are up to it, I highly recommend you consider adopting a dog. Especially an older one, uglier one, or neglected one. Those are usually the ones that are best behaved and give the most love.

Friendship, loyalty, attention. Dogs have a lot to offer.


[–]LidlKwark 271 points272 points  (56 children)

Dogs are indeed awesome and I feel blessed for having grown up with labs and goldens. However I wonder how I could raise a dog while being single and working 40h a week.

[–]Feenz092 145 points146 points  (37 children)

Just adopted a puppy. I was not prepared for the amount of work that is needed, but the experience has been a blast! You just have to adjust your lifestyle to taking care of another being.

I'm two months in, and here are some of the personal benefits that I've found:

  1. Having a dog forces you to make a schedule and stick with it. No more snoozing my alarm because I want to sleep in.
  2. Having a dog forces you to go outside and socialize. Dog parks are perfect for practicing day game.
  3. Having a dog makes you a better man. You have to have frame to properly train a dog.

[–]burzuei 118 points119 points  (16 children)

You just have to adjust your lifestyle to taking care of another being.

its not that simple. Some people cant do it and their dog will have a really shitty life.

[–]bearmanpig4 46 points47 points  (0 children)

This.

I have a friend who I used to live with in an apartment for a time and he owned a dog. Except for the occasional trip to the dog park and a 5 minute walk every day to let it shit that dog was in a kennel for 90% of the day. Some people should most definitely not be in charge of animals.

[–]vagbutters 29 points30 points  (2 children)

I'm in med school, and as much as I'd love a dog, I simply can't afford to have one. My schedule between working out, studying, and working is incredibly tight.

[–]donkey_democrat 49 points50 points  (1 child)

Keep a goldfish in a water bottle with you

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    [–]burzuei 16 points17 points  (4 children)

    I've seen shit people do to their beloved animals you wouldn't believe. Sometimes they don't even realize that they're doing something wrong.

    [–]Mckallidon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    It's like people who don't realize they're fucking up their kids. They're just that selfish and stupid.

    [–]LidlKwark 37 points38 points  (14 children)

    I agree with everything you said. But I would not want to leave my dog alone in the house from 8 in the morning till 5 in the afternoon. How does your schedule look like?

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        [–]ChrisBenRoy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        My dog will sleep through the night, and as long as I want to sleep in and hold it the entire time. I take him out when I get up, but I never have him wake me up needing to go out. And he's only 3.

        [–]gigitygigitygoo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Agreed with all. The day care near me varies in cost but is about $18-30 a day. Discounts are usually given for multiple dogs.

        [–]OneInAZillion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Can confirm. Having 2 dogs is infinitely better than one due to not only the stress it takes off me to ease their boredom all the time, but also because they always have a play partner to match their energy the way they need it.

        Furthermore, a dog having another dog friend 24/7 makes them way happier overall. I've had one dog, and I've had 2, and I'd take 2 every single time, both for my sake and the dogs'.

        [–]Apexk9 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        2 dogs can create litter mate syndrome and that's not fun to fix.

        I don't trust anyone else to touch my dog let alone walk or take care of it.

        I've seen doggy daycare create pshycological problems in dogs.

        Leave your dog at home 8 hours they will be fine if they are a medium to large breed.

        [–]rathyAro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        2 dogs can create litter mate syndrome and that's not fun to fix.

        I read that this is an issue for siblings. Even if you feel it isn't you can get at least 1 non-puppy.

        [–]Frdl 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        I agree with everything you said. But I would not want to leave my dog alone in the house from 8 in the morning till 5 in the afternoon. How does your schedule look like?

        Get a dog walker. Get an actual good dog walker that will take them out for a solid 1 to 2 hours. Dog might love the dog walker more than they love you, but you won't have to worry at all about leaving them alone all day.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        And they are cheap...well worth it.

        [–]Feenz092 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        I work full time and I'm getting an MBA from one of the top universities in the US. Needless to say, I'm busy.

        The biggest thing I've done over the past three years to improve my life is to eliminate my commute. I had an hour and a half commute one way when I was living in Chicago, so I made the decision when I moved to my current city that I would always pay more to not have a commute. Everyone should do this for their own sanity. The only thing you cant get more of in this life is time.

        I wake up two hours before work to get ready, workout and spend time with the dog. I also take lunch and dinner at home with the dog. I have class Monday and Wednesday evenings, but I make sure to take my dog to the dog park on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

        I have given up some things. I don't have time anymore for video games or TV. That wasn't that hard. The hardest thing is being more mindful of my time. I schedule everything and plan in advance. I can be spontaneous when I need to be, but sometimes it's a calculated risk on whether or not my dog will have an accident in the house because I've neglected her too much that day.

        [–]burzuei 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        You can always get some older (like 3-4+ years older) dog and he won't really mind that you're gone from 8 to 5. It's not really that much of a problem when it comes to owning a dog, but before getting one consider these things:

        Every single day from monday to friday you will have to walk him before going to work. Weather doesn't matter. Same thing when you come home: one of the first things you will do is you'll be walking your dog. Wanna grab a beer with the boys straight after work? You can't. Plate is waiting for you? You need to drive home first to walk your dog. Every single day for the rest of your dog's life you need to remember that he needs to be walked.

        Holidays also suck. Forget about any spontaneous trips and stuff like that - everything needs to be pre-planned so that you can either go somewhere with your four legged buddy or have a place for him to stay (and it's a dog, so giving him for two weeks away to some random people he never met before seems for him like being sent down to Auschwitz).

        And remember. This is really big decision in your life. You decide to take a living creature who will love you unconditionally (unless you will really fuck this up) and defend you with its own life if needed. Your dog will be with you for 10+ years. When it gets older you will need to adapt. When it will get sick you will need to adapt. When you will want to change your life in some big way you will always have to make sure your dog will be ok with it (moving out, taking another job, etc.)

        If you still want to get one I'd recommend getting a mixed breed (I believe they're called mutts in english?) - I have 30+ years of experience with dogs and mutts seem to be way less problematic than legit dog breeds when it comes to health issues.

        [–]BreakerMark78 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        I leave both of my dogs in their crates from 8-5 on weekdays, and having the companionship helps them. But before that, I would leave the dog in a crate with a food puzzle, with kibble + a calming treat.

        As soon as I get home, take them out to pee/poop then let them run around the yard for awhile.

        [–]Feenz092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I use food puzzles and frozen Kongs. Helps a ton for your dogs boredom.

        [–]Apexk9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Why? Get a large breed dog. When I worked my gsd at the time would just chill for the 9 hours I was gone. They sleep most of that time anyway I mean dogs sleep 18 hours a day.

        [–]BreakerMark78 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        Working with a dog trainer for my aggressive dog, frame is the most important tool. Dogs look at body language and feel your energy way more than they listen to the actual command.

        [–]Feenz092 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        My dog is four months old. She doesn't nip or jump on me anymore because that isn't how she gets me to show her affection. I don't pet her unless she has four paws on the floor. It's kind of funny to watch now, but she'll walk up to me a sit down expecting me to pet her. Super cute, and I reward that behavior 100% of the time.

        [–]BreakerMark78 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Archer is a little different, I have trained him to not jump, get on the couch or bed, and to not harass me for pets. He has a bunch of territory aggression of the house however, to the point where we can't have people over because if he got out there is no doubt he'd bite someone.

        This sort of thing never goes away, but with the trainer we can manage it to some degree.

        [–]Feenz092 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Best of luck with the aggression!

        [–]The_Red_Lantern 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Consider getting an older dog. I adopted an older beagle and he was more than happy to sleep the day away while I was at work.

        [–]nikdahl 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        It sure makes things more difficult. I can't hit up happy hour after work with my mates because I have to go home and feed my dog. I can't take off on a whim for a weekend, because I have to secure a dog sitter. I have to clean my house much more frequently because there is dog hair (and smell) all over. That tinder slut finally wants to come over? Shit. Well, I guess I will spend the next 30 minutes sweeping and vacuuming instead of manscaping.

        Now, if you have a neighbor or someone you trust that can easily to take care of it while you are out, that can make your life much easier.

        As it is, I'm not sure the advantages of a dog outweigh the disadvantages for a single male.

        [–]moviemaker10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Same. I work 8-(6-8) every day but Sunday and love dogs too much to let them be alone for that long

        [–]Apexk9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Just get a Large Breed Dog by 4 months he should be able to hold it 8 hours. The Dog should be sleeping when you're gone so before you leave give him a good sniffing walk sniffing will tire a dog faster then you running with them which you shouldnt do as its bad for their bones as growth plates close.

        Some idiots will tell you they cant hold it that long but they're idiots because dogs supress the need to piss when asleep which is why a puppy can sleep through the night at 11 weeks.

        Humans baby their Dogs too much not realizing they are capable of surviving by themselves we're just making life easy for em.

        Bare minimum you would need to do to have a dog is.

        30 mins a day of training broken up into 5 and 10 min sessions reward is always play layered with food.

        30-45 min sniff walk before you leave for work 15 mins play.

        then you can go to work come home take the dog out for a piss you train calmness in the house so the dog will chill. I give mine a bone to also let him chew. Real Raw bone. Nature made dogs to eat bones.

        Then play with the dog for another 30-45 mins.

        You can do Dog Parks I personally dont recommend them. They are great until your Dog gets attacked.

        And your Dog will be chill.

        If anyone needs Dog training advice PM me.

        [–]InteriorEmotion 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Greyhounds are a good choice. They spend most of their time lounging around anyway. A short walk in the morning and at night will be enough exercise for them. They do get separation anxiety if they're left alone too long, but you can prevent that by adopting 2 of them. Also they have short coats and don't shed much.

        [–]ratleaf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Unless you can have the dog with you to work and get a super old one that doesn't need much mental and physical stimulation then no.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Exactly, I work 50 hrs a week. Leave at 630 am return at 6 pm. No way I'm gonna leave a dog in a pin that long. Too bad I can't bring one to work...

        [–]Tough_Luv 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        I raise a dog, work two jobs, go to school, cook all my meals, lift every day sometimes twice.

        Just don't be lazy and work hard.

        [–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (5 children)

        Not this dog thing again. Get a dog, if you want to be anchored to your apartment.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Yeah I don't see this post adding anything new to the last time someone posted this opinion.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        It doesn't really apply as much to city dwellers like yourself. That's a bad environment for a dog anyway.

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        It applies to everybody. Dogs need a home. If it's your home, then you have to be there to take care of it.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Outside the city, you can have a big yard for it to play in while you're gone. Obviously you still shouldn't leave it alone for longer than necessary, but it's still leagues better than leaving it inside or in some goddamn crate all day.

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        [–]jazerac 13 points14 points  (3 children)

        This. I love both of my dogs more than most people. But they are a pain in the ass at times, specifically on the point of vacation and staying out. Wanna take an extended weekend? Gotta find someone to watch the dogs. Going out of the country for 10 days in December, finding someone to watch them is turning into a nightmare.

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          [–]jazerac 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Interesting, never heard of it. Thanks for pointing that service out.

          [–]Apexk9 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          Sorry I stand by dog breeders who uderstand the breed and it's traits and know the science of breeding.

          Now buying a dog off kijiji or Craigslist or some backyard breeder is a no no but a good breeder will save you money on training and vets

          But if you want a great dog find a great breeder as half the work will be done.

          Adopting a dog will have unknown psychological issues potentially and health issues.

          [–]mediamole 32 points33 points  (6 children)

          Don't forget about poop, hair throughout the house, vet trips and bills.

          I nexted my dogs along with my wife in the divorce and never looked back. YMMV.

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            [–]mediamole 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            I absolutely look at getting at least as much as I put into it.

            I feel the same way about women, cars, contracts ... pretty much everything in life except my kids and charity. Why else would I do things?

            [–]Areu4realm8 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            why should he be ''giving'' to a fucking dog if he doesnt want to?

            [–]mercnet 10 points11 points  (10 children)

            A great alternative is getting a cat if you are not ready for a dog for those exact reasons. They require more work to build a bond but I have yet to meet a girl that doesn't like a cat unless allergic.

            You can leave them alone for a week as long as they have plenty of water, feeder, and large size or automatic litter box.

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              [–]Nikelu 10 points11 points  (1 child)

              Never had a girl telling me that . They think it is super cute and it's a Great excuse to pull them in your house to see it

              [–]putinbusch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Why the fuck do you yanks put the dog in a cage? If you did that here the RSPCA would take it off you.

              [–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

              Dog is responsibility though. If you decide to get a dog for the perks of the dog and can't deliver on the needs of a dog, don't get a dog.

              [–]neopet 22 points23 points  (4 children)

              I got an awesome dog 5 years ago when I was in my early twenties. He's been a great addition to my life, and I agree with the points made by OP, but I can't stress enough the huge jump responsibility when you get a puppy.

              The dog has to be your new passion for about a year if you want it to be well behaved. You will miss out on employment opportunities and fun trips because of the dog. You will get frustrated with the dog, and you will likely resent it at times. But if you have the discipline to handle the it, it's incredibly rewarding to be a dog owner.

              [–]Stuck_in_a_coil 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              I got my dog when he was 8 days old (his mother was hit by a car). He just turned 5 years old last week. Its been work, but rescuing him was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Rewarding is a good word for our relationship.

              [–]Areu4realm8 3 points4 points  (2 children)

              missing out on employement and trips looks a very bad idea to me. considering a dog more rewarding than these looks wrong to me, like you are being controlled by your emotions.

              [–]neopet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Absolutely, I got lucky because my mother is retired and loves having him around when I need to take off.

              Those first couple years though I had a serious LTR and was living the blue pill dream so trips and work opportunities weren't an option anyways.

              [–]Nikelu 99 points100 points  (5 children)

              No Fuck your suggestions . Dogs need extremely high maintenance and a lot of your time. I love pets and I have a cat myself but I would never suggest it to anyone . You want restrictions in your life? Then go for it. Wanna go on a trip ? Pay dog hotels that cost half your monthly income . Wanna over sleep ? Well your dog is gonna shit in your apartment then. Pets are not designed for the utopian male that TRP idealises. Not saying everyone who has a dog is beta. But you probably aren't millionaires yet and you haven't made it yet (neither did I but I'm 20) so you need all your attention focussed on yourself. Give some money to stray dog organizations if you love dogs . Could write more but I'm sick . But you have to consider many things before buying smth

              [–]Iappreci8thegr8r8m8 10 points11 points  (1 child)

              Another option would be to foster dogs. It's temporary and still allows you some freedom. Plus when you are walking your most recent "leased" dog it gives an extra conversational piece that makes you look REALLY good.

              [–]Nikelu 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              That's not a bad idea for people who would like to try out how living with a dog would be. Our orgs here even offer the dogs nutrition if you foster it and you can have it until someone that wants it is found.

              [–]Apexk9 16 points17 points  (0 children)

              I could sleep for 12 hours and my dog would do the same. You see dogs metabolism slows during sleep and if you train a dog well they are super chill.

              This is for large breed dogs as I only own German shepherds.

              When I had the flu I would sleep all day and took him out like 3 times for a few minutes and he was fine.

              He knew I wasn't well so he was chill.

              [–]ntvirtue 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Dogs are awesome!

              Getting a dog to show women that you are responsible and ready to be taken advantage of in marriage is not the best motivation.

              [–]InChargeMan 10 points11 points  (4 children)

              If you want to have this creature that needs to go to the vet, eat food, shit in your house, sent to a kennel when you travel, making sure you are back at your house to let it out every evening, and eventually dies. Yep, get a dog.

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                [–]InChargeMan 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                Sure does. So does being able to have the freedom to do things without hurrying home to let your dog piss.

                The good news is that many of the people in your life will die, so you've got that going for you. The +1 probably won't make a difference.

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                  [–]InChargeMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                  Lol, FYI I have a dog. I like him, but won't replace him when he is gone. I learned my lesson. The great thing about humans is that we can use written language to impart knowledge, instead of having to learn everything first hand.

                  I post to help those who might not be considering all points.

                  [–]svensin 11 points12 points  (2 children)

                  picking up shit every day literally

                  Stinky gross dog hair covers your entire house

                  Barking, running into shit, being a general jackass

                  Can't go on vacations without having your dog looked after

                  Have to spend tons of money on procedures, food, equipment

                  Some people don't like dogs

                  I Disagree entirely

                  [–]Endorsed ContributorObio1 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  Agreed. IMHO dogs are kind of like boats. I love it when friends have them. Having one of your own is a pain in the ass.

                  [–]svensin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  And I'd Still rather have a boat, at least it won't die

                  [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                  As soon as I get a house with a yard and have extra money for dog sitters on the regular, I might consider it. Until then I'm going to be a big fan of Snoopy, who acts like a cat.

                  Yeah, I'm not gonna have some mutt prone to barking/annoying my neighbors, smelling up my place, needing walks all the time, and me picking up its shit all the damn time. No. A dog is like a permanent 2 year-old.

                  It might behoove you to become interested in dogs, though. Excellent plausible deniability when you see a hot chick walking her dog. Game her by giving her dog attention.

                  [–]vorverk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  Please dont get a dog for this reasons. They are living beings that are completely dependent on you. Getting a dog to get chicks is as low as TRP can go. Please don't go there.

                  [–]B_Rawb 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  I definitely agree with your post, but dogs are a bit of a time sink. Especially when you're eating clean and being fit. I currently have two cats which take exponentially less effort to maintain than a dog from what I've been reading.

                  Although dogs are great, they're not for everyone. I don't have enough emotional currency to handle something that needs my attention all the time. My cats only fiend for my attention for about an hour so, the other times they are there when I'm interested in giving them attention.

                  It seems a lot of dog people women and men alike want something dependent on them rather than a companion.

                  [–]Areu4realm8 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  No thanks. You have to wash them, take care of them, feed them, take them for a walk, take them to the vet etc Im alredy too busy trying to improve my life, i would rather use my free time relaxing.

                  [–]1mojo_juju 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Dog =

                  REDUCES freedom

                  INCREASES obligations

                  I like dogs a ton. I just don't want to possess anything I must take care of, or which I cannot easily travel with. i.e. if i want to get on a jet for 3 month backpacking trip in Europe tomorrow, I can't do that if I have a dog.

                  [–]myprimetime 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Well let me play devils advocate, on why it's a horrible idea for most people, and it's actually a sacrifice to do so.

                  Note, I have a dog, and its usually worth it...but that comes at a cost.

                  1. When you get a dog, you are on the dog's schedule. That means you can't go hang out with friends after work, because the dog is going to shit on your floor. Met a girl and want to go over to her place? Sorry, can't...gotta get home to your dog.
                  2. Pet hair. That shit will be everywhere...that expensive $300 black sweater that you really like? Sorry, it's now covered in hair and looks like a $5 gap special. It doesn't really matter how careful you are, all your clothes are getting ruined. Speaking of pet hair, you can forget about keeping your place clean...that shit will be everywhere. Ditto for your car's interior(and no covers don't actually do shit, that stuff still gets everywhere)
                  3. Walking...it's Saturday morning, in November, you went to bed at 3am, after a fun night. You want to sleep in. Nope, sorry...gotta go walk the dog even if its 20 degrees outside.
                  4. Vacations...sorry, now you need to make arrangements to have someone sit with him. Don't know anyone who is willing to sacrifice a week? Congrats, that'll be $40/day to board them.
                  5. Speaking of costs, you now need to spend ~$1K/yr on the vet. And that's just regular checkups and shots. And once a month you gotta give them their medicine.
                  6. Speaking of medical issues, get ready for tons of scratches. And if you play a lot, chances are, you'll get hurt too...to give you an example, we were playing, and my dog head butted me in my nuts. I had blood in my semen for a week after that.
                  7. If you rent, you are now ineligible for 80-90% of apartments/houses.

                  [–]chris_sydney 16 points17 points  (1 child)

                  But no chuauas. Nobody likes those rats.

                  [–]joshsoowong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Had 3. They were really mean.

                  [–]bigcitytruth 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                  A dog is like having a kid. Say goodbye to spontaneity.

                  Be a man. Learn to embrace occasional solitude.

                  [–]GalacticSuperDrone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  I let my last LTR keep our dogs when I bailed, heres why:

                  Want to spend the night out? Can't, gotta feed and let the dogs out.

                  Want to go out of town? Gotta find someone willing to watch the dogs or pay a shit ton of money to put them up in a doggy motel.

                  Work 40+ hours a week? Enjoy your dog shitting/pissing in your house or tearing things up constantly.

                  Not to mention vet bills, and the hours and hours you'll spend training them.

                  [–]DillonDockery 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  Get a dog if you want a dog, but don't get a dog because you hope it will attract women. You have that as the no. 2 reason on this post. Don't let strange women you have never met dictate what you do with your life. You don't need a dog to attract women.

                  [–]MeatCurtainRod 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Dogs make better friends/companions than girls anyways. In fact, any dude who thinks a girl can be their best friend is an utter fuckup of a boy.

                  [–]MemeRiffler 11 points12 points  (2 children)

                  I'll adopt one when I'll be able to offer him/her a good life. That means a house with a garden, not an appartment. Dogs really are the best friends everyone needs

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                  [–]Askada 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  I wouldn't call it companionship if the animal can't even understand what you're saying

                  Well, while I agree with you on the mantainance cost in time and money, I don't really agree on this one.

                  It's not a fucking rabbit or turtle we are talking about here.

                  Dogs will read the shit out of you and will love you more than any woman ever will. They are called best companion for a good reason.

                  [–]Apexk9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Dogs wondering understand what you're saying but they will know what you're feeling by reading your body language.

                  A dog will know when you're sick.

                  [–]NeckbeardVirgin69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Yeah. I have a dog (not by my own choice) and I hate having a dog. It's well-behaved and everything. I just don't see the point of its existence.

                  [–]SunnyHillside 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                  If you aren't ready to commit. Look into fostering. Chicks will swoon.

                  [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  plus you get that chedda from the state

                  [–]hidden_but_true 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  Is there such a thing as fostering dogs? Or do you mean kids?

                  [–]SunnyHillside 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  There's such a thing. I've been doing it for almost 7 years. Gives me the flexibility to have a dog and travel. It's not for everyone but I love it!

                  [–]1RXRob 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                  So I want a dog, but I'm not home enough to give it a fair life with full time work, wrestling, and scouting.

                  My nearby friend is in a similar position. So we're now exploring the possibility of dog sharing. Getting a dog that we have joint responsibility to and splitting vets bills.

                  Has anybody here tried a similar setup?

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                    [–]1RXRob 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    I've grown up with cats and dogs so they're both options.

                    I guess a cat would be more practical

                    [–]burzuei 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    I've seen arrangements like this work. But you and your buddy must be really close and on the same page to pull this off.

                    [–]Apexk9 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    No.

                    Eventually one of you will no longer want to share then what?

                    Plus that's confusing for a dog and the bond will be off kilter

                    [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (5 children)

                    Crazy cat lady = emotionally dependant dog guy.

                    Men, be men. Don't invest emotionally in an animal. That's what children and women (and millennials) do.

                    [–]Areu4realm8 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                    this. this thread is pure cringe. these men learned only how to act with women, they didnt learn the psychology behind the redpill. never invest happiness in anything outside of you.

                    [–]hidden_but_true 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    The main point is: dog>girlfriend

                    Dogs are much better, in every way: maintenance, love and affection, loyalty.

                    Now, maybe nothing>dog. Different question.

                    [–]TheStumblingWolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    I agree - dogs are awesome. I choose not to get a dog until I go on pension though. They're social creatures and I'd feel bad for having a dog stay home alone for half a day while I'm at work.

                    [–]weirdfish42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Love dogs, no way I could have one. Work hours, random 3 day weekends out of town, etc. The cat, on the other hand, provides many, though not all, the same benefits without the hassle.

                    [–]Garconanokin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Solid post, there are a lot of great reasons to get a dog but the drawbacks always make it a hard no for me. What what I love? A dog share: I could split the expense and burden of the dog with other guys, and have all of the benefits that come with it: walking him in areas where attractive girls hang out, etc.

                    Obviously this is crazy, but does this resonate with anybody else? Who wants in on DogShare?

                    [–]knifpearty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Would love to have a dog but can’t see myself picking up dog shit. :

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    What if you don't like dogs?

                    [–]GunsGermsAndSteel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    What about the fact that I don't like dogs, and don't want to own one?

                    I mean, it's a little strong to say I "don't like" dogs... I just don't like having dogs in or around my house.

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                    Dogs are needy and annoying. How dumb do you have to be to believe that everyone just loves dogs? I don't want something to love me, or help me attract women. When I'm home I want to be left the fuck alone.

                    [–]brettfromtibet 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    NOT everyone love dogs! But the knckleheads who fall in love with them only notice the people who coo "Ohhhhhh.. what a cute dog!" and they begin to think they are doing the world a favor by bringing the damn dog everywhere.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Typical dog person wrapped up in their own world.

                    [–]kailibur 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                    My dog just got terminal cancer and is expected to pass sometime this week. What you didn't include is just how hard it fucking hits you when you realize they'll be gone forever soon. Still, always get a dog.

                    [–]RenaissanceMan79 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    My dog of 12 years (he was 14) passed a couple months ago, and I agree. I still miss him, but I'm now getting to the point were I do enjoy the lack of responsibility. I'm taking a planned break from having a dog since I have little free time right now and live in a small apartment. But as soon as I move to a bigger place I will be getting another dog. As I've told many friends when the complain about women, "If you want unconditional love, get a dog."

                    [–]kailibur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I'm losing my childhood pet, so I don't know really what life is without him. It'll be a strange few months. I can't get one till I'm out of college. Not fair to me or the dog with all my other time commitments.

                    [–]cantFindValidNam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Attracts women when you are walking your dog.

                    I ve picked up so many chicks this summer walking my sis's cute yorkie. Chicks would go crazy about him and I'd approach with something like "can I give it to you as a gift?" Then follow up with "but you have to take me with him" they usually laugh or smile and I end up with a number.

                    [–]Hunter2isit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Can confirm, had a pic of me with my dogs on my tinder profile (others were professionally shot non-headshots) was messaged ~4x a day.

                    Also when divorce was getting shitty, my dogs were there. Until she took them

                    [–]whats_the_deal22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Went to the park with my pup yesterday. The number of wealthy milfs who smiled at me while they walked behind their husbands was staggering.

                    [–]Rumzdizzle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I saw a guy walking a dog with wheels for its back legs due to some neuro disorder... man oh man did that get the attention of every person that he walked by. Almost too much attention from the ladies.

                    [–]woefulwank 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Sure, make sure you have plenty of money beforehand however.

                    [–]Andrian-TQM 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Dogs aren't loyal by nature. You can only train them to be loyal. If you train your dog to be nice to everyone it will stay loyal to the person who provides food and shelter. That's not a bad thing, but don't confuse loyalty with neediness.

                    [–]ScruffyPete101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    As soon as I sort my life out enough for the responsibility I am getting a dog.

                    [–]brettfromtibet 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Dogs are for betas, chicks & narcissists who can't relate to people. Better to spend all that time and energy on real human friendships and relationships - far more fulfilling.

                    [–]supremelummox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    DOG, the new product that solves it all!

                    [–]thedaynos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I love dogs but I love vacations more than dogs.

                    [–]bob1981666 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Everything in this post is accurate, in my experience. I would just add the caveat that you need to really be committed if you want a puppy, The first few months are intense. Since we are talking single guys here and ways to enrich out lives, I would think about getting an older dog first. So many good dog bros need a home and are already house ready.

                    [–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    +1.

                    Good idea.

                    Puppys bite furniture too.

                    [–]Native_of_Tatooine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Can confirm. Am sociopath. Love dog.

                    [–]Momo_dollar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I actually read this thinking it was going to be satire or an analogy. Not saying there's anything wrong with dogs or owning one, but fuck me

                    [–]90blacktsiawd 1 point2 points  (9 children)

                    If you've decided to adopt a dog go to your local kill shelter and attempt to find one there first. Not only do you get an awesome new friend but you also save the life of a dog that would more than likely get put down.

                    [–]Vasallo7G 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    those fuckers need to run DAILY, also just like a girl if they do not see you as their leader you are their bitch

                    [–]ObnoxiousLittleCunt 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                    It's also a great meal.

                    If you're hungry, get a dog.

                    [–]NiceTryDisaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Cant believe this peice of shit post has 300+ upvotes. Get a dog only if you want to get anchored to your house, spend a shitload of money, make life miserable for the animal and then get hit with misery yourself every time he falls ill or get hit with epic level of sadness, like you've never experienced before, when he dies after 10 years or so.

                    Was owner of two cats. Loved them both more than I love my family members. One died earlier this year. Second one is doing well but sadly its a burden too. Anyone reading this, DO NOT GET A PET unless you're filthy rich.

                    [–]gmcclintock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Dogs are awesome, if you have time to properly care for them. Fun story, when I was a kid I had a dog growing up. My dad took a job in europe for a year and we had to leave the dog in the United states, in a kennel. The dog died while we were gone because of loneliness. If you cant properly care for it, dont buy one. Numbers 2, 5, and 8 are irrelevant in your list, if your considering getting a pet to attract the opposite sex, or use them as an ice breaker, dont. Remember, a dog is a living, breathing, thing that you are responsible for. If you cant figure out how to have a conversation with a woman without using a prop to break the ice, remember that prop will eat the walls in your house, and shit on your life the instant you dont have enough time to properly care for it. If the only reason you want to get a dog is to get some trim, save your money and take a trip to Thailand.

                    [–]Apexk9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Don't adobe buy a puppy it'll teach you to hold frame and be responsible.

                    Dogs are men's best friend.

                    [–]Disaster532385 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I want to get a dog, but I work full time and don't want to leave it home alone all day.

                    [–]Iappreci8thegr8r8m8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Another option would be to Foster a dog or two. Kind of like leasing a dog and gives an additional talking point when you get stopped by a girl to talk and pet it. When the dog gets adopted you can take your time and travel or whatever then take on another when you feel like it.

                    Downside is you don't know what kind of problems you are inheriting with each foster dog and you may have some terrible dogs.

                    [–]orezavi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    German Shepard or Doberman.

                    [–]Pastelitomaracucho[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I travel too much. I can't own a dog :(

                    [–]babybelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    If you're hungry get a hotdog

                    [–]TedTheAtheist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Or a Bengal. They are larger cats which act like dogs.

                    [–]joshsoowong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Especially an older one, uglier one, or neglected one. Those are usually the ones that are best behaved and give the most love.

                    Really? How does this oppose adoption a puppy? I always thought it is best to adopt a puppy and that it will be easier to train and actually grow up with. Are older, ugly, and neglected dogs really good to adopt?

                    [–]Tmnsquirtle47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I'm a cat person, but the life benefits of having a dog really appeal to me honestly. I'm the kind of person that absolutely hates exercise, so I have to build it into my schedule. Dog fixes that. Also, I'd generally stay inside on my free days. Dog fixes that too. However, I really can't stand the all the slobber and washing involved. Any advice as far as that goes? Are there "cleaner" breeds?

                    [–]gr33nade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    You can add networking there, if you live in a good area you can make friends with successful people while walking your dog, I did.

                    [–]teeelo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    BOYS hit the SPCA or pound!

                    Mutts aren't inbred like the expensive dogs!

                    See here for more: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aCv10_WvGxo

                    [–]yendorion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    The expensive dogs are the one's not inbred, those sold as expensive dogs usually tend to be unfortunately. Just spent an arm & a leg on my second because of her pedigree/bloodline quality.

                    P.S . OP is absolutely right but they require absolute dedication if not, you're a shithead for getting one.

                    [–]Moonshineraider 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Hear! Hear! I've grown quite sympathetic to the phrase, "The more I deal with people, the more I like my dog."

                    [–]Temprament 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    Or up your meta-game and walk your cat!

                    [–]alclarkey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    You don't walk cats. They walk you.

                    [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    love dogs but I ain't got time for that shit. besides the fact that it gets over 100 degrees for 6 months out of the year here, I can come up with a ton of other reasons why it's not worth your time and will be miserable for your dog as well.

                    [–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I don't have time for a dog. I work at least 50 hours per week, workout, have a girlfriend, and some friends. Plus there are some other things I'd rather do with what little free time I have. Like watch netflix, read comics, play video games.

                    Though dogs are fucking awesome. I love them. Just not enough to adopt one and do just by it.

                    [–]disposable_me_0001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    sigh I wish I didn't live in a tiny apartment and work 10 hours a day. Seems cruel to keep a social animal isloated that long everyday. There should be some sort of dog sharing app where you can share a dog among friends.

                    [–]1Original_Dankster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Big time investment. Despite the advantages, I can't afford the time to properly attend to a dog.

                    [–]Azuresk-BINGE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Unless youre some idiot who doesnt have the dedication to take care of one. And no, thay doesnt mean putting food in the bowl and letting it out every night. Be ready to properly take care of it. If youre not going to, for gods sake, save that poor amazing animal some dispair and dont get a dog

                    [–]DongleNocker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    After Bill Clinton's impeachment he got Buddy (RIP), probably for many of these reasons listed here.

                    [–]squidracer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    This post makes me miss my dog..

                    Rip dottie

                    [–]fadiusmadius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    According to one study, a good looking man doing street approaches with a dog tripled his success rate from 9% without a dog to 28%. Success being: girl gives phone number.


                    Discussion: The dependent variable in this experiment was the number of participants who agreed to thecourtship request. The results showed that 28.3% (34/120) of the women approached com-plied with the request when the confederate was with the dog, compared with 9.2% (11/120)of women when the confederate was not with the dog. This difference is significant (²(1)=14.47, n= 240, p< 0.001; r= 0.25)

                    Participants:The participants were 240 young women (ranging in age from approximately 18–25 years) chosen at random while walking alone in a pedestrian zone in the same city wherethe two first experiments were conducted. In this experiment, a 20-year-old, male confederate was used. He was selected by a groupof three women, on the basis of a high physical attractiveness score, from a group of three malevolunteers. An attractive man was used because pre-test evaluation showed that it was gen-erally difficult to obtain phone numbers from young women in the street. This avoided creat-ing conditions where the ceiling effect of compliance was low. The confederate wore the samestyle of clothing as in experiments 1 and 3.The same dog that was used in the previous studies was used.Procedure: The experiment was carried out on sunny days in July 2007. In this experiment,the participants were selected following a random assignment in which the confederate wasinstructed to approach the first young woman in the relevant age group (18 to 25 years) whowas walking alone in the pedestrian zone where the experiment was being carried out. As inthe previous experiments, when soliciting the young women the confederate kept his dog ona lead in the experimental condition, whereas he was not accompanied by his dog in the no-dog control condition. The same verbal solicitation was made by the confederate in both thecontrol and the experimental conditions: “Hello. My name’s Antoine. I just want to say that I think you’re really pretty. I haveto go to work this afternoon, but I was wondering if you would give me yourphone number. I’ll phone you later and we can have a drink together someplace.” The confederate, who owned a dog, but not the dog used in this experiment, was trainedbefore beginning the experiment. He was instructed to approach 10 participants, accompa-nied or not by the dog, and his conversation was recorded by a digital recorder (Roland EdirolR1), as in experiment 1. Five judges (2 males, 22 years old and 3 females, 20–22 years old)listened to the recordings and were instructed to evaluate if the confederate was accompa-nied by a dog or not when soliciting the pedestrian. It was found that the discriminatory ca-pabilities of the judges were not statistically different to what would be expected by chance. In the experimental situation, after making his request, the confederate was instructed towait 10 seconds and to gaze and smile at the participant. If the participant accepted the con-federate’s solicitation, the confederate debriefed her about the study.

                    [–]thetenman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I wrote a guide for dog park game a couple years ago in the old trpgame subreddit. Having a dog is great to meet chicks, I would highly recommend it.

                    [–]greatslyfer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    ITT people who overblow the downsides of having a dog.

                    You feed em twice a day, near the time you have your meals so you're not really using additional time.
                    And you walk the dog for half to a full hour onceor twice a day according to your needs/schedule.

                    Bam that's it.

                    [–]TheFirsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I shall add that they do shit.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I'd love to but it will die before me.

                    [–]Lsegundo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    ...had a first date with a woman and the only reason she came inside was to see my dog. We fucked.

                    minor clarification: The dog was the plausible excuse she used to prevent herself from being a slut that was coming inside to fuck. She already knew you would end up in bed unless you did something dumb when you got inside.

                    [–]nimblenightnavigator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Look, no bullshit. I want a dog so fucking bad. But I'm about to head into my graduate program and followed by (hopefully) Med school. Is it possible to get a dog. I did think something along the lines of any life outside of a shelter is better than that hell hole but I don't want to be cruel to an animal. Any of you with taxing, busy, high profile hectic lives (Doctors, lawyers, bankers, entrepreneurs, etc.) have dogs? How do you manage? There is nothing I want more than to have true companionship and loyalty. (I would love a German Shepherd but know its difficult to leave them alone for 8-10 hours a day.) Any and all advice would be much appreciated.

                    [–]1earlpfeiffer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I have been surprised in the last few years how many girls I have met that don't seem that into dogs. It used to be a given but now I hear a lot about allergies or, and since my dogs are plus 200 lbs., how frightened they are of them. I can work with that. But the whole allergy thing is a red flag to me of high maintenance, snowflake likelihood.

                    [–]RichKingOfBangmar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Not everyone should have a dog.

                    I see people getting led around by dogs all the time. Idiots who can't recall their dog to save their lives letting them off leash. Worse yet, the shittiest dog owners seem to be the most attracted to owning pit bulls.

                    I would say those most in need of a captive friend are the least suited to be a dog's master. Achieve self-mastery first, then attempt mastery of another living thing. How can you expect to claim a dog's obedience if you're so emotionally needy that you can't be firm?

                    [–]deepthinker314 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    1 reason not to get a dog: Allergies

                    [–]1Soarinc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    What's the best dog capable of handling boredom? (I kinda feel sad if i have to leave a dog indoors alone for 10 hours daily -- I want the most DGAF dog possible)

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Pets cost money and time. If you don't have a lot of money, and you want to focus on making as much money as possible, you are better off not getting pets, but maybe get plants to bring more life into your house. I'm happy with my pets, but they're guinea pigs and I take care of them the correct way based on studies, which is a lot of work, and guinea pig owners are called "cavy slaves" online for good reason; but these count as exotic animals, and this is good experience for me to know what its like to do lots of research and put in more work than with a cat or dog, because someday if I have the money and the property I want to get a couple badgers. If that day comes I will have to be prepared to mitigate and correct indoor and outdoor property damage from the organic branch of my security system. =P

                    [–]Cas8228 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Can definitely confirm, I would however make sure you find an intelligent breed (they are more work) but the camaraderie you will get out them is huuuuuuge.

                    She literally speaks English I swear to god. Have gotten laid at leasat 20-30 times walking her down the beach in Santa Monica and she truly is my best friend.

                    When I am watching football or working emails on my couch, my little (not so little) furry 75 lb best friend curls up next to me and puts her head on my lap. She is amazing, I would never let her go and kill anyone whom tried to harm her.

                    She is amazing, if you are lonely, get a dog, totally agree with OP.

                    --- edit

                    She is an American Akita

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