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MetaWomen are devoid of Character. You giving a fuck what a Woman thinks of you is like a hedgefund manager worrying what a hobo thinks of his investment portfolio. Its fucking laughable. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen

The more I learn about self development the more I'm inspired and passionate to go and fucking do it. The more I learn about women and game, the less I think of them. Now me thinking less of them doesnt mean I dont still want to fuck them, because of course I do, but each level I go up in understanding of game, I stop caring how girls react to me. How they judge me. Because I see how game is a fucking scam and I see how fucking stupid women are lol. Like here you and I can talk about our mission in life, and how we can fight to better ourselves every day and struggle so we can achieve that... WOMEN DONT HAVE A FUCKING MISSION, they have no reason to improve themselves, they're the gender of default success. So imagine you're 12 again but instead of hitting puberty and wanting to make something of yourself, you literally didn't. You didnt grow at all in terms of character from 12. You havent improved or grown stronger and in fact youve probably gotten more and more weak and stupid because you grew tits and then the world was instantly served to you on a silver platter.

Thats life as a woman. Thats what women are. I think sometimes we underestimate literally how underdeveloped they are compared to us. Like I know people say the modern man is a bitch compared to men 100 years ago and I get that and fully support you trying to improve yourself, but we are still literally light years ahead of women in terms of character development and strength. Like its not even close.

So heres my question to you: If you were to go up to that 12 year old thought experiment you and ask something from it and it denied you because it thought you were lame, why would you give a single fuck? Thats like a hobo making fun of a hedge fund managers investment portfolio. Women are completely ignorant of strength and character. All they can discern are its secondary effects. Its really like some sort of mystic magical force to them, they have no clue because it is absolutely absent from their lives. That's why feminists create male privilege to explain achievement gaps. No hunny, only privilege I have is that my whole life I wasnt given shit and I had to earn everything I got in this world. It made me incomparably stronger than you. This really cannot be overstated. We forget how unlike ourselves women are.

This should give you a free ticket to act however and do whatever you want around women because their approval and disdain are literally meaningless to your development as a man. And as we all know the less fucks you give the more they want it.

Self Development is where you should get your self esteem from but game is where you really fuck girls. They can work together but not always man. I know GOOD dudes who dont get laid and I know FUCKING LOSERS who slay it. As you grow in game you should be caring less and less what women think and honestly you should be thinking less and less of women in general. There is a reason why they should be submissive to us. They are like little children in terms of character.

NEVER forget your whole life you've been treated as a boy and her whole life shes been treated as a girl. Not to mention innate psychological and hormonal differences. Basically youre better than her. Know that and you'll fuck whoever you want.

Peace,

SWTDO

Edit: Lol finally, the snowflakes have arrived! Dont get me wrong I mostly write to help RPers grow but triggering BPers adds that extra indefinable zest to posting. My question to the snowflakes though is this, if you know the truth hurts then why come here? Personally, I think its because you like the pain, you naughty little snowflake. You want to be punished by us big bad Red Pill men don't you? Cowering in fear as we drop truth bomb after truth bomb, but still wanting more. Yes, I think that's it...


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[–]RPBulletDodger 213 points214 points  (2 children)

That's why feminists create male privilege to explain achievement gaps. No hunny, only privilege I have is that my whole life I wasnt given shit and I had to earn everything I got in this world. It made me incomparably stronger than you.

My favorite part of the post.

The girls out there will never know the meritocracy like we do...especially post-wall. When they realize that something is wrong (but it is never anything about them).

I'll take my earning over their deserving every single time.

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    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 301 points302 points  (1 child)

    OP, you're a shitlord.

    Upvoted.

    [–]TooHoly999 331 points332 points  (66 children)

    Most self-improvement literature targeted at males is read by 20-29 yr olds. The self-help literature targeted to women is read post-wall.

    [–]SasquatchMcKraken 161 points162 points  (11 children)

    Because men continuously build value, and we've got to figure it out fairly quickly. We can't cash in on our cocks until we're 40 and then suddenly not know what to do. Hence why Congress is only about 20% female, every President has had a penis, and there are more Fortune 500 CEO's named John than there are women.

    [–]zeeohsixer 141 points142 points  (6 children)

    Which explains another TRP wisdom- Never try to help a woman understand why it is that she's fucking up. Occasionally the logic driven part of my brain takes over and I'll explain to a plate how to unfuck her situation @work or fix something like I'm speaking with a client. Then I realize I might as well talk to the wall because they have zero interest in a solution, they would rather bitch and have me do it for them. Laziness.

    [–]SasquatchMcKraken 28 points29 points  (0 children)

    Precisely. Any man who's has sisters or has dated even one chick knows this. Hence yet another TRP truism: change her mood, not her mind. The fact that they're so emotionally-driven helps them in a lot of areas, but taking full responsibility (which is crucial for leadership positions) ain't one of them.

    [–]joh2141 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    Yeah that just sums up about 90% of women and the other 10% who are interested in solutions and seemingly good in that sense are completely void of anything ELSE useful that you'd look for in a partner assuming you'd even want to get married.

    [–]zeeohsixer 16 points17 points  (1 child)

    Very true, speaking of 90/10....

    My father always told me as a young lad that "Women are 90% emotion and 10% common sense" My father and grandfather routinely dropped these RP one liners, but it wasn't until I found TRP that it all meshed up.

    [–]novalentineforyou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is true for most people in my experience.

    [–]Troll_Name 21 points22 points  (0 children)

    Q: what do you call a female junior executive?

    A: golden parachutes for the senior executives.

    [–]TheReformist94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    You can cash out on your cock at 14. Alphas do. Cashing out at 37+ is BB/Exchange of RMV for SMV I.e prostitution

    [–]Gallobrax 46 points47 points  (12 children)

    When I asked myself at the age of twenty what happens to to change us so substantially as we head into our thirties I didn't realize how much of a loaded question this really was. You've hit the nail right on the head though as there is no literature targeted to pre wall women. Further much of behavioral science as it concerns psychology is aimed at getting women to "let go" - there is really nothing which exists anymore to teach our women how to be better people in general terms and it's sad.

    [–]HopeFarmer 51 points52 points  (11 children)

    I think there's a minority but significant exception to this literature rule for educated women who aren't attractive and have some strong male role models. Anecdotally, I have an ex with a "cute" but not really attractive face, and I hooked up a few times with another slightly below average classmate (both hb4). They were pretty smart and into math/engineering. I was interested in them at the time because they were oddly self-aware and receptive to logic. They'd get emotional for no reason, then later they'd acknowledge it and apologize. They would bring up some feminist bullshit they read online, then when confronted with contrary evidence, they'd actually think and change their opinions. They were also both really into reading about philosophy and self-help/career advice type things. Most of it seemed like it was directed at guys, but I think there's a growing body of modern literature aimed specifically at these kinds of girls.

    I can think of a few other similar examples. I guess you could argue these girls are born post-wall, so they have to learn to help themselves earlier. There also might be some biological connection like having unusually high testosterone levels or something. In any case, women who are "alpha" in the sense that they seem to have some concept of actual work and dedication to a mission almost all seem fit into this category. I'm thinking of political figures like Merkel, Thatcher, pretty much all decent female scientists, any mildly competent female professors/teachers in serious fields of study. They tend to be unattractive with slightly masculine vibes.

    [–]123InigoMontoya123 74 points75 points  (2 children)

    If you're a woman and you're born ugly... You're a man, essentially.

    [–]redpillersinparis 42 points43 points  (1 child)

    Honestly, I think it's worse than being an average man.. you don't get female privileges (no one trying to do shit for you) and you don't get male privileges either (you're not taken seriously). Unattractive women are pretty much ignored in groups.

    At least an ugly man can still achieve financial success and maybe marry some conservative woman. An ugly woman doesn't get any advantages.

    [–]jurguenklomiken 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Exactly. This sub focuses on sexual strategy and fucking cute girls. Therefore, most interactions presented on here are clearly biased towards cute women living life on easy mode. Lots of posters making huge generalizations based on their interactions with a relatively small percentage of women. RP tenants apply for all women, but the experience you get depending on how cute she is and her background is vastly underrated on here sometimes.

    [–]lopsidedlucky 4 points5 points  (5 children)

    I think this quote was meant for you bro

    Personally, I think its because you like the pain, you naughty little snowflake. You want to be punished by us big bad Red Pill men don't you?

    Two major points for you.

    1st, the women you're talking about that you believe are self aware, logical and into philosophy are conning you like any other women. They are low value and have to work harder. If you ask them truly critical question and dig you'll find they're parroting whatever shit they read. It's awalt, even an hb4 will work you how they can and feed you your version of a unicorn.

    2nd, Listen, Merkel and Thatcher are disasters that ushered in the end of the fucking western world in Europe. Thatcher created a femininzed big brother police state that allowed for Englishmen to have their fucking heads cut off in the middle of London in broad daylight by muslims while no one was armed to stop it.

    Now stop posting nonsense you don't understand, put down the mountain dew and get your ass to the gym, read the sidebar and go fuck some hb7's bro.

    [–]HopeFarmer 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    This thing with the two girls was a while ago and pre trp for me. I am not claiming to have been alpha in that situation. Everything is in some sense manipulation. Of course I did "ask questions and dig" at the time but talk is cheap. I was mainly reflecting on their actions of pursuing useful knowledge and choosing to study real subjects. They were successful stem majors. Both of those women have been advancing through demanding tech jobs for big financial companies throughout their twenties. Their colleagues are successful alphas who would never consider settling for them and they know that. They do genuinely have some kind of drive to succeed. I have no delusions that they are good/faithful people or that awalt doesn't apply to them. I am only citing a minor exception to this idea about self improvement.

    Obviously I'm not endorsing Thatcher or Merkel as people or any of their decisions, but it is ridiculous to pretend they weren't unusually successful in objective terms. They became the leaders of major countries.

    [–]rahl_r 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    2nd, Listen, Merkel and Thatcher are disasters that ushered in the end of the fucking western world in Europe. Thatcher created a femininzed big brother police state that allowed for Englishmen to have their fucking heads cut off in the middle of London in broad daylight by muslims while no one was armed to stop it.

    Glad someone set the record straight.

    In her day, Thatcher put her own dictatorial spin on democracy. FYI, they had those "The bitch is dead" celebrations in England a while back.

    As for Merkel... that's... grim. Betrayed her own country, her own people. Brought hordes of uncivilizable savages to the Fatherland. The aftermath of her actions won't be pretty. One thing's certain: It's coming, and there will be blood shed en masse (European pragmatist here, and stocking up on weapons - not because I want to, but because I have to).

    [–]lopsidedlucky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Good to see someone here gets it.

    [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 122 points123 points  (19 children)

    Women only understand that something is wrong once the Titanic is all ready sinking. Lectures on hull integrity and ice flows don't have enough feels for women to care. Only when the icy water is flooding in will they care.

    [–]redleader95 16 points17 points  (8 children)

    doesnt matter to them anyhow. women and children get to the lifeboats first

    [–]nestortheg 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    Actually it was mainly businessmen, rich and high in status that were mainly on the rafts leaving the titanic.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    80% of women survived and 20% of men survived. Only 50% of children survived.

    It is not Women AND Children first. It is WOMEN FIRST, LAST, ALWAYS. Children are just a foil that women use to bash men over the head. When the cold water is rushing in the women leave their children to drown and jump on the half empty lifeboat.

    [–]1dongpal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    thats how life generally went. now every Idiot gets a boat... Degeneration

    [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 31 points32 points  (8 children)

    Well, at least one of the two (1400?) genders needs to focus on assigning the blame and fostering the shaming.

    [–]Troll_Name 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    That's not women GLO, that's typical men.

    Women don't care until they discover a way to cash in their victim chips.

    [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen[S] 53 points54 points  (9 children)

    And even then its just so they can play at self improvement. Same as women in the military, they want to dress up and play soldier. They will never know what its actually like. Just larping.

    [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 41 points42 points  (7 children)

    Women in any uniform of authority looks ridiculous. It's a fucking kid in a costume at halloween. No respect whatsoever.

    [–]TooHoly999 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    You should be an EC at this point. Shortly after discovering TRP, we had a discussion. I can't remember the detail of the conversation, but you were very articulate and you changed my mind on the subject. I've read all your posts and comments here since.

    [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 20 points21 points  (4 children)

    I was "meh" on the original post, but I think this is like some salt and pepper on a dish. Seasoning makes it pop. Men MUST find their mission when they are 20. Women fall back to find a mission when they blow past the wall.

    [–]InstigatingDrunk 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    Could you give examples of a "mission"?

    [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 22 points23 points  (2 children)

    [–]lopsidedlucky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Nice delivery. Take your upvote

    [–]redpillersinparis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Interesting point. Is that really true? How can we know for sure?

    [–]mountainbiker178 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I've never realized this, until now. Mind blown.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 83 points84 points  (0 children)

    Women have succeeded in reaching their peak as soon as they turn 14-18 and their hips are round and their tits are perky. They are already high value, higher than pretty much any non-celebrity guy, simply for being young and hot. Evolutionarily they are in their prime condition to fulfill everything they have been programmed to do.

    Imagine if I gave you 10 million, a ferarri, and a muscled bod at 16 just for existing. Imagine how much you would know about anything. You'd know nothing. Literally, your head would become a flowerpot.

    This is why you don't care about what women say. You watch what they do, but never give a shit about their opinions on anything, especially when it comes to subjects where they have a vested interest in not thinking logically. (AKA pretty much all subjects concerning sex and power).

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 26 points27 points  (0 children)

    Preach, brother!

    My take on this is "There are no young girls at Codependent Anonymous meetings, why? Because as long as they're young and able to find somebody to buy them another drink and try to fuck them, why bother?"

    There are almost no young girls in churches, why? Because when you get old and there's nobody to buy your a drink or to fuck you, you start to feel that empty bottomless hole inside you more and more, then boom, you find Jesus. But not when you young and beautiful, because you rider cock carousel without any efforts by then.

    Of course there are exceptions from this rule, those are women who do something so they can achieve the development level of, say, 16 or 18-year old. But that's who they are. Exceptions from this rule.

    Bitches don't care about anything OP noted because they don't have to. And that's the way it is. So how you should treat them, what should be your frame? Exactly like OP's. Great post, brother.

    [–]Gallobrax 87 points88 points  (22 children)

    Your thought processes are well articulated, you have a relative grasp of some of the core redpill concepts and you are focused on what matters most: power and self development. Very few of us realize that we are here for more then just "slaying" and as you have correctly stated the more you dive into the concept of game the better you are at achieving results in the SMP.

    The reason any of this actually works is because it's very much akin to a science; where applied correctly there is a definable and measurable level of causation associated with the theory presented in the literature. If you do your homework you will succeed - it's a logic driven discipline. Why then do so many of us fall down? We aim to low.

    Think of it this way, what's more predictable: a conversation with an HB6 or an HB9? Who's the safest one to approach? The HB9. Why? Because in the case of the HB9 you are dealing with elements that are static: they have developed safety nets, shit tests, and all manner of other devices to keep them where they are in the SMP. Conversely the HB6 is often insecure, has not developed these tools and will date entirely via emotion rather then the systematic implementation of hypergamy employed by the former.

    Thus, the more predictable an encounter becomes the more power and leverage you have over it. You've done your reading you know the score; she does not, and while she might have impeccable good looks, and a natural social efficacy she does not know why it works. She simply rinses and repeats, sometimes multiple times a night. These are the women you aim for, because breaking down this foundation is easy once you've been taught. A woman without these talents however is a wild card and one who you will constantly second guess. There is no power to be found in this situation, and often few results. It's a waste of your time.

    A most interesting conversation for discussion - one I will elaborate on at a later date as I think there's much to be said on this topic.

    [–]boredepression 19 points20 points  (8 children)

    You just explained a new point to me I never thought of before but that makes perfect sense: 9's will present a more consistent encounter. So simple explained like that.

    [–]electricspresident 10 points11 points  (7 children)

    Yes this is why I've suprisingly 8s & 9s more receptive to me when I go to the pubs n clubs. What I also found out is the fake 8s and 9s the chicks who use a whole lot of make up end up having an inflated ego and get way too snappy and rude and this is how I come to know whether a girl is beautiful inside and out. Ofcourse even the true 8s n 9s still follow the nature but as far as 'I've seen it all before bitch, u ain't shitt' I think that's the way to behave always irrelevant of the HB rating

    [–]Gallobrax 22 points23 points  (6 children)

    The "I've seen it before..." is exactly the item you capitalize on. It's a perfect application piece for amazed mastery as you too have seen it all (and you find the behavior consistent). Thus, not only does this provide something you can measure (and act on) it presents a much more mailable individual once you've moved passed their defenses. Not only that but they are also better relationship material (if frame is held) as ironically enough they are less likely to succumb to further hypergamy as the approach has cemented your SMV. Comparatively speaking a HB7 will soon think she can do better because she will use you as a jumping off point if at all possible. Really, part of the puzzle is women want what they cannot have: a HB9 has been with chad, betas and men of all types. She knows the game and understands the problems with it. When you however present true alpha qualities alongside measurable intelligence you dominate in a comparative sense. She gets you are worthy. A lower tier woman will not, and if allowed will seek out what she has not attained before. This certainly gives women more credit then they are due but I view SMV in metrics beyond looks. Furthermore, this is the most logical assessment of the SMP I can think of as a lot of what is often confusing for men is why a woman acts in the way she does. It's due to the simple fact that they are ALWAYS looking for the better offer. However when one fishes at the top they remain at the top.

    [–]Kellywasmyfirst 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Fuck I've been lurking in this sub a reading every thread for almost a year now but I've never read something like this. Wow what a great perspective

    [–]Gallobrax 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I will hopefully be turning this thought into a post of its own in the next few days. I tend to think very logically and have absorbed much of what is here and in the literature over the span of three months. I'm what you'd call an active observer, and have spent a lot of my time people watching, reading the experiences of others and patiently expanding my social circle, business activities and getting back into martial arts.

    We all have our reasons for being here, and if you are in a position to contribute one should always be mindful to do so. I'm happy you got something from the above.

    [–]waking-life 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Goddamn I never thought about it like that. Well said.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    huh.. who would've guessed that AWALT actually helps you score hotter women...

    [–]Gallobrax 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    AWALT is a bit of a misnomer as all women are not explicitly the same. What they are however is similar and the closer you get to what is subjectively a HB10 (it doesn't exist) you will find expertise in areas such as hypergamy, shit testing ad etc. Conversely the lower you go the less developed these items are and in their place is often uncontrolled insecurity. We men are creatures of logic and reasoning: the higher up the food chain you go the more you can utilize this skill set. Conversely the lower you go you are likely dealing with base feminine emotions and psychology.

    [–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    To be pedantic, you defined AWALT on a post further up. Now you are waivering a bit. Hypergammy proves AWALT. If they all are looking for better, than AWALT. SMV will effect the varitions of behavior, but those variations do not negate AWALT as a static idea.

    [–]lopsidedlucky 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    You almost lost me there but you made a good point half way through. Many of them don't know why it works, just that it does.

    You're also right on the hb 6 example. Many poor guys have aimed low to snag something easy and end up wasting their time because the hb 6 is a different kind of nuts and doesn't have the social graces to be gamed by the rules. You end up spending more time overcoming their wild shit tests from their insecurities versus a 9.

    Good post.

    [–]Self-honest 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    The logic is flawless. Great perspective. Thanks for the insight.

    [–]kirbydirk 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Great analysis. It's the insecure ones who will eat your time, they want control but are usually confused and unstable. Much worse than the nothing.

    [–]Gallobrax 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The problem isn't just time but sanity. Before I took the plunge that was my number one issue: the mental health of my significant other consuming my own frame. Of course all women by default are consumed by these emotions but one must be careful to not bite more then he can chew. A mans place is to provide certainty and security. With some people this is simply not possible and that's why I gravitate towards women who are physically better looking then myself. Your appearance is very indicative of how in control you really are and as I've already stated I'll take a relatively predictive situation over (which could be a flop) over settling any day of the week.

    [–]1nonthaki 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Your summation is the missing link to my working knowledge of TRP. Thanks and I am glad that I didn't miss this post (and thus you comment) because I visit TRP less nowadays cause its usually rinse and repeat, and also it takes time away from my goals. Please elaborate your points in a new post , so that we can gain from that knowledge and hopefully, your idea will be so practical and novel that it gets a place in the sidebar as your idea is something that lots of TRPers dont realize or they dont think too much about , and hence their day to day game and lifestyle might suffer cause of it .

    [–]beginner_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    I think sometimes we underestimate literally how underdeveloped they are compared to us.

    In fact if you are somewhat intelligent it's hard to not see a huge gap towards almost everyone. But since the intelligence distribution is flatter for men (more dumb but also more highly intelligent men compared to women), you are much more likely to meet a man on your or a higher level and you will mostly associate with such men. This will give you the impression that all women are dumb/underdeveloped compared to all men and not just you.

    The hedge funds manager wouldn't care what a taxi driver or construction worker had to say about his portfolio. Or the beta slob living in mommies basement or said otherwise 99% of the population.

    [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    It's my world. I am the King of my world.

    It's not a popular opinion in blooperville, but it's a great mindset to have. You and only you get to control all aspects of your life.

    Nice post, awesome username.

    [–]Novembercriminal 112 points113 points  (16 children)

    I mean.. many girls are like that. True. But some of them actually have dreams and work fucking hard to get them. It's a VERY narrow percentage but it exists and I've worked firsthand with brilliant women.

    [–]beginner_ 157 points158 points  (1 child)

    Let's be honest. The percentage of men actually having a mission and working towards it, is very narrow as well.

    [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

    Not all guns are loaded.

    But you can bet your ass I treat them all like they are until I personally confirm the absence of the preconceived condition.

    [–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 85 points86 points  (1 child)

    OP is not talking about those exceptional women of brilliance. Ironically, while they're good at demonstrating a woman can be just as capable as a man in job X, they're typically terrible at being feminine and being women. They might as well be men, you can treat girls like that as you would a man, and they function fine under real world pressure.

    The only problem is that no one wants to protect, nurture, or fuck them, since they're basically men.

    [–]lopsidedlucky 27 points28 points  (0 children)

    You've entirely nailed it. Not only that, those women are a mess sexually and entirely insane in relationships. They basically sacrifice themselves as women just to live as a man. When they hit the wall, jesus man they fucking hit harder than most and emotionally become dangerous.

    [–]ShotgunTRP 24 points25 points  (10 children)

    Awalt, it's like driving a car. You look left/right even if it's your right of way. You assume all drivers are idiots because if you don't it can fuck your ass up.

    It's an antidote to the "all women are special unicorns like your mother" which plenty of guys subscribe too.

    Yeah sure not all women are like that, but assume they are until completely proven otherwise. Just like how hot women view most guys as chumps until proven otherwise.

    [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (6 children)

    ... like driving a car. You look left/right even if it's your right of way.

    No, I look left/right because the other drivers might be women.

    [–]Shukakun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It's an antidote to the "all women are special unicorns like your mother" which plenty of guys subscribe too.

    FTFY. More accurate description of that particular mindset. Men look for a bit of fun. Adult children look for a new mom.

    [–]lopsidedlucky 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Good analogy.

    Need to correct you on this comment.

    just like how hot women view most guys as chumps until proven otherwise

    Not true, most hot women of higher value see guys as guys until they prove otherwise. If they see you as a chump you might still have work to do.

    [–]ShotgunTRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Might? More like most definitely

    [–]fromthecrypt8 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    Almost jacked off to this. Upvoted

    [–]Philletto 8 points9 points  (8 children)

    That's why feminists create male privilege to explain achievement gaps. No hunny, only privilege I have is that my whole life I wasnt given shit and I had to earn everything I got in this world.

    There's no pay gap but there is an achievement and commitment gap. A woman is just not going to study as hard, work as hard and especially not without group approval.

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    [–]TooHoly999 60 points61 points  (16 children)

    Absolutely. I believe TRP uses radical language at times because nearly every user was fed up with being a Nice Guy (TM).

    That being said, this is a useful frame of mind considering that:

    1) It is fact based. The effects of testosterone has been researched extensively.

    2) It helps the Nice Guy (TM) with pedestalizing.

    When I'm rejected by a female, I'm not going to consciously think "all women are total pieces of shit" and revert to my anger phase. Extended exposure to this material will strengthen one's frame without him having to exhaust his mental energy. Our society has done the same thing through advertisements, ("if I don't use acne cream nobody's gonna fuck me") movies, (Disney, Kids shows where the nerd gets the girl) and politics (wage gap) for decades. The Red Pill is an antidote for the Blue. It is based in subconscious processing.

    Obviously, that doesn't mean a man shouldn't research what he reads here. After it is researched, however, it's supposed to go to the back of your mind, where it can be utilized when it needs to be. I realized the other day I agree and amplify by habit. I make sexual jokes to women without thinking about whether I should.

    I don't believe posts like this are intended to put a chip on your shoulder for the rest of your life. These are subtle messages to help the average guy stop worshipping women.

    [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 17 points18 points  (3 children)

    Absolutely. I believe TRP uses radical language at times because nearly every user was fed up with being a Nice Guy (TM).

    It actually has a functional purpose. I drives away those that put too much emotional context into words. These are not people we want contributing. The bloopers-at-heart can go hand job each other in their little subs while obsessing over us shitlords and our every utterance.

    [–]TheIceReaver 12 points13 points  (6 children)

    Good points, but imo it won't work like that. The us vs them tone of trp is ironically a aspect of exactly what we should be aware of questioning and releasing in our lives. If it’s the tone of the sub, most guys will never look past it to see how it subtly undermines them in their own lives. I think its just totally counterproductive and dangerous to encourage or perpetuate what is a childish mentality, whilst ridiculing childish mentalities in others. Right?

    The only problem with this self blindness is that it's already present in most of us and its going to take a lot more than what Ive said to stop ourselves from passing the shit onto our own kids.

    Yall downvote but it's true.

    [–]cruzbmx 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    I believe this would be a genuine concern anywhere but here. If somebody is here and doesn't know how to utilize the info they get (from posts that may be upvoted by the endorsed, RP in training, cuck, and or BP bitch) they should definitely be reading more sidebar.

    I know that for me, at least, I've gotten better at interpreting RP posts the less BP I became. Take everything with a grain of salt, like this post tries to teach us. Above comments are good

    [–]TheIceReaver 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Yeah theres value in the material but not in they attitude bro

    [–]Psychocist 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    These are subtle messages to help the average guy stop worshipping women.

    This is the problem - they aren't. Maybe that is one of their unintended consequences, but too much of our own literature is infected by bitterness and has NO concern for other people, men or women.

    It's sad because this is a potentially great place to enable positive, masculine, change, and it is being polluted and derailed by immature little boys who are spazzing out with pointless, angry outbursts every other day.

    I'd like to say it will change, but it won't until mods start banning material that promotes these attitudes. Thankfully, it would seem (from votes and comments and some other posts) that there are still some mature folk around here. How long they stay is another question. I'm certainly done contributing to this shit-storm. I'll call people out on their BS but I'm fighting an uphill battle with that.

    There is a disease running through this community that is spread through people who think they have unplugged, but haven't fully digested TRP.

    [–]hahayeahthatscool 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Just had to let you know you're pretty much dead wrong about all of your points and your argument is ironically very emotionally fueled.

    [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen[S] 45 points46 points  (44 children)

    What has happened to TRP, whats with this influx of gender equality faggot bullshit? We used to be bad guys man... now look at us. Down voting posts and comments that talk about innate inferiorities in women? psht... were past our prime man...

    Look kiddo, no one is saying I have contempt for women, I love women, just like I'd love a cute little kid. But never would I EVER think that that little kid is the same as me, and never would I be fretting over how that little kid judged me as a man. He simply isn't in a position to judge me. Same as a woman. BP faggots think discussing women honestly comes from this blind seething rage usually from lack of sex. Matter of fact I've TOLD this to the girls I'm fucking and they get a kick out of it. This is a simple dispassionate conversation about the reality of differences between men and women. If you dont want to talk about that then you know where the door is cupcake. Welcome to TRP, shit aint changing

    [–]RedPillHanSolo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Purple pill faggots trying to shame left, right and center. Sad, really.

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      [–]RedPillHanSolo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      LMAO, HE'S INSECURE AND ALSO SEXIST!11 Fuck outta here, will ya?

      [–]StinkyDogFarts 11 points12 points  (34 children)

      Kiddo... That's cute. Deliciously condescending. I would say everyone here is Questing for some kind of happiness and frankly there is some quality ethos as far getting your shit together and taking responsibility for your situation and proactively fixing it. That makes confidence, it makes you look like you have your shit together and that's what gets you laid. You will get laid because bimbos like being treated like contemptable children but if you ever wanted to explore a concrete connection with another person, this may not be the path. It's like keto... It works but it's not for everyone. Unicorns are out there and they will see right through your shit, they will see the insecure boy psyching himself up and and plugging bimbos with petulance.... Focus on that self improvement, find that center, that inner happiness. Be the best person you can be... If it's this, then so be it. Kiddo.

      [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen[S] 34 points35 points  (33 children)

      This is like McEnroe pointing out how Serena Williams would not have a shot against male pros, and that she'd rank somewhere in the middle male college athlete rankings. Its a cold hard fact and yet he has to give this loud prolonged apology for offending the snowflakes. Fuck that. This is not your hug box. This is where we honestly discuss differences in the sexes in case you didnt get the memo. Character doesnt apply to women. Women have charm. They (can) have purity. But character, grit, toughness? This is the domain of men.

      [–]bountyhunterdjango 6 points7 points  (10 children)

      yeah women have no grit, which is why the Kurdish women are fighting ISIS and getting shot, whilst you have sunk a huge amount of time into a subreddit, complaining about women.

      The irony is that you're along the right lines! Men should work out, get tough, be masculine, and use that strength to fuck girls and dominate their careers. The belittling women bit is what pussies that are still bitter about girls for whatever reason still whine on about.

      [–]hahayeahthatscool 8 points9 points  (7 children)

      So just because a handful of Kurdish women are fighting for their existence women have a comparable amount of grit or participation level in warfare as men? How does a person reach this level of dumb?

      I once knew a guy who was a really great stay at home dad. Does that mean men are just as good as women when it comes to caretaking and child rearing? Because of my one data point I can make such a claim? Get the fuck out of here with that shit, you moron, and try again.

      [–]bountyhunterdjango 4 points5 points  (6 children)

      The argument wasn't whether women were better at fighting, I wasn't even arguing that they were equal in this regard. I was proving that women can have grit and toughness, and pointing out the irony in this generalisation considering they are tougher than him, you or I.

      Women are better at raising children on the whole. Does that make it the 'domain of women' and mean 'being caring doesn't apply to men'? No of course it doesn't.

      Just because the opposite sex are better on the whole at something, does not negate your capacity to be good at it. Maybe read what you respond to, it would make for a better argument than having to change mine to debate it. Fuck me you seem dense.

      [–]hahayeahthatscool 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      You are completely ignoring OP's point. He is saying that in comparison to men, women have no grit or toughness. You call me dense yet here you are sitting there pointing out the exceptions as if they break the rule, like a true donkey. You have to address the rule, not the exception. Show me your argument that women have a comparable level of grit or toughness. You can't because history directly contradicts any argument you can make.

      [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      Dude, you dutch ovened his hug box.

      and

      Character doesnt apply to women. Women have charm. They (can) have purity. But character, grit, toughness? This is the domain of men.

      is gold.

      [–]lopsidedlucky 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      dutch ovened hug box is gold bro lol!!!

      [–]Psychocist 9 points10 points  (3 children)

      This is where we honestly discuss differences in the sexes in case you didnt get the memo.

      Making statements such as "women are devoid of character" is NOT a discussion. Your post is full of random assertions, just like almost every other post. Here's another: we're all trying to be Rollo, and we're all behaving like we've discovered enlightenment.

      But character, grit, toughness? This is the domain of men.

      Tell that to female soldiers fighting ISIS. You talk of honesty and yet you are completely biased and close-minded.

      Character is BUILT. It can be built into anyone. Keep perpetuating your BS all the way down the drain. This community will never grow until crap like this is flushed down the toilet where it belongs.

      [–]hahayeahthatscool 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      "hurr durr but look at this exception to the rule, doesn't that make the whole rule non-existent? fucking hurrrr"

      Literally kill yourself, retard.

      [–]Psychocist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Another classic argument! Man you are on a roll!

      [–]hahayeahthatscool 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Pointing out that you should address the rule and not the exception is a classic argument? I guess so...

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        [–]hahayeahthatscool 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        "what about the exception to the rule. What about that bet u didn't think of that huh."

        Are you guys seriously this fucking stupid? I mean comon dude this is like baby's first debate. You have to be a straight up mongoloid to think pointing out exceptions some how breaks the rule.

        "This Nazi was a good guy, therefore fascism and national socialism are good things"

        "This bear didn't eat me alive, therefore bears are not 600 lbs killing machines"

        "This fish didn't die from pollution, therefore pollution isn't killing marine life"

        "My friend makes good money without a highschool diploma, therefore education is useless"

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          [–]hahayeahthatscool 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          You're a dumb ass. Not anywhere did OP state that every single woman you meet, on an individual scale, has 0 grit whatsoever. He made the claim that as a general rule of thumb, compared to the average man, the average woman lacks in grit which is simply an observable fact. Of course there are exceptions, can you name me a single rule where there are NO exceptions? Protip, you can't. You couldn't even do that with the laws of physics. What you are doing is the most common and easily done fallacies which is addressing the exceptions to the rule instead of the rule itself. Sure there are examples of women being brave and sacrificing their lives in the name of duty, but what OP is simply telling you is this: there are at least 10000x more examples of women being complete cowards and sending their men to die instead of themselves. Which is the point of the thread and 100% true.

          [–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          What about the Russian women's battalion of death in ww1? Created by a peasant woman who fought and rose to the rank of officer? Created to inspire and shame the war weary men?

          IIRC, the Batallion of Death was for a short term, and wasn't a resounding success.

          Basic insurmountable biological differences.

          That's what being discussed.

          [–]bountyhunterdjango 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Spoiler: he won't reply to you, too many facts and not enough angry feelings

          [–]StinkyDogFarts 4 points5 points  (7 children)

          That was a fact. Some dude ranked like 140 came off the golf course with beer buzz and smoked the both of them. Women can't deal with the speed and the spin.

          [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen[S] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

          So then by agreeing with me on that do you have contempt for Serena, or better yet all women because they can never match us in these things? No of course you don't, same as me.

          [–]yes_we_can_t 1 point2 points  (5 children)

          She can't beat the very best of the men, but she sure as hell can beat almost every man in the world.

          [–]TheIceReaver 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Even worse than the 'faggot bullshit' are spastics thinking too highly of their own opinions man

          [–]novalentineforyou 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          I'm pretty sure that beliefs perceived as mysogynistic do not significantly harm one's success with women if you have the classical traits of a high value man. Of course you should make sure not to let your beliefs make you angry at women.

          [–]StinkyDogFarts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          A) they dont. B) wasn't what I was getting at. Notches on the bed post are great, go for it! I'm jealous of you young whipper snapper, pussy is a fuck ton easier to get then it was 20 years ago. Listen to Weezers "tired of sex", that's merely the thing I'm throwing out there... Momentary happiness vs long term emptiness.

          [–]Mr-Ed209 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Im realising this more and more. Like, even the guys who did badly in high school still go out into the world and carve up their piece of it. They do what has to be done, wether thats risking their life/limbs on an oil rig, mine site or other equally shitty places just to make decent bank.

          There are a few women who work hard but as we can assume, they're greatly in the minority. It's really starting to piss me off reading articles of income disparity from leftist news sources. Until women are sacrificing their livelihoods in equal manner then they will never compete with men financially. Rightly so if they are to birth children and all that carry on.

          Of course feminism only ever focuses on flashy jobs. CEO's and hedgefund workers. Those men are freaks of nature or born onto a path of wealth through nepotism. There really should be some sort of revolt regarding the gender income debate - men's and families livelihoods are dependent on it to an extremely large degree.

          [–]fuckeduphomebody 3 points4 points  (7 children)

          NEVER forget your whole life you've been treated as a boy and her whole life shes been treated as a girl.

          So fucking true. Easy to keep in mind.

          Thanks

          [–]shnomoe 17 points18 points  (5 children)

          What are you trying to attain? What defines success or achievement to you? What constitutes character and what is the opposite of it? I am just curious what your mission is.

          [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen[S] 27 points28 points  (4 children)

          Character is virtue. Its using your will to create something of yourself. Its bringing an ideal world into existence through your actions. How we look at society and deep down we know it doesnt have to be this shitty, look at yourself in that same way. Its not having any excuses, its being exceptionally hard on yourself because you can take it. Doing it the right way no matter what happens in the material world to hurt or help you. Its living on another plane of existence. Its being a dreamer and then bringing that dream to reality. That is character to me. And achieving that dream for yourself is success.

          [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 6 points7 points  (2 children)

          Something also interesting is that the ancient concept of virtue was literally a male only thing. Prefix vir- same as in virility means "man". Virtues were things men strived after, not women. I'd recommend a google search on this. Later the term evolved and there became a female notion of virtue, but even still, this only referred to her chastity.

          [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          look at my submitted content. Two posts ago I did a whole article on that. "If youre struggling with women..."

          [–]shnomoe 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Thank you for answering! I only ask because they are terms that are difficult to define sometimes, cause they mean so many different things to different people. So I appreciate you taking the time to let me know what they mean to you.

          [–]imn0tg00d 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          When I first read the title I said to myself "here comes another shit post from someone in the anger phase" but then I read it and was pleasantly surprised. Quality post, sir.

          [–]jonpe87 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          On point. Care about a woman opnion about you or your life is like let a 10 yo kid tell you what to do.

          [–]leviathan51 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          This is a little bit over the top.

          I like it.

          [–]pmmedenver 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Your argument is bad and you should feel bad.

          Women absolutely do have a mission. Their mission is to get pregnant to the highest SMV man they can attract and raise beautiful healthy children while helping people around them and spreading joy and happiness. Attracting an alpha and convincing him to mate is more challenging in a natural environment then it is in one with birth control. Would you really be fucking that 5 if you knew a baby would pop out of her? And if you weren't fucking her, she would actually have to fuck someone on her level. Women's SMV is artificially inflated due to the pill and its the reason everyone here is mad and focused on self improvement.

          When you talk about the hotties running around in their 20's riding the CC you forget that the same exact thing exists for men: we call them Chads. Chads are just as stupid and underdeveloped as the women you are mocking. Some people are just born/raised with high SMV, get used to it.

          And yes, women can also develop later in life just like men can (Although I agree that men have more potential and a higher ceiling). Beauty can be a skill in its own right: healthy eating, frequent lotion applying, makeup, fitness. Women also have character traits which, when developed, raise SMV: kindness, generosity, acceptance, humility, empathy, etc. Most men around here just don't know they exist because they're too busy faking bravado and forgetting that these traits are valuable to men as well.

          There is a motif in TRP to shit on women for not having masculine traits, and then in the very next post complain about how women are too masculine these days (I wonder why). Feminine traits are not as financially valuable as masculine traits so we can't hold their lack of financial success against them as some sort of failure. End the gender war. Stop fucking below your means. Encourage feminine women.

          [–]DemumA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          You're an actual idiot. There are women with far better attitudes and goals towards life than some men. You sound like an 8th grade boy who got mad bc a girl rejected him.

          [–]Maelshevek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          The problem is also contributed to by men who will take any woman to bed or marriage, despite her character. We put up with or try to overcome their shit just long enough to get what we want. It's a decision that may work in the short term, but has terrible long term consequences.

          My belief is that we get back from others the kind of character we expect. We don't tolerate bad behavior. If they don't like it--man or woman--too bad.

          Our standards can build a better world, but only if we hold the line and don't cave when we're lonely or even when we want sex. Yep, really.

          Real character is being willing to sacrifice what we want to make the world a better place.

          Women basically have a free pass thanks to hypergamy, dudes with no standards, telling every girl she's a princess, telling every man he's a perv or a pig, expecting men to work, while not expecting women to do the same--the messages that go out there paint every woman as good and every man as bad. And this serves as a justification for women to always view themselves in the right, despite behaving in ways that they don't tolerate from men!

          They get what they want, without work, we pursue and reward them and then wonder why they act like kids. It's crazy. This is why I'm pro personal development and staying single.

          Be the Ivory Tower, do good, live good, and show others what that looks like. Make them jealous by being what they aren't. If they can't cheat their way into a better life, they will have to learn character.

          [–]TheIceReaver 8 points9 points  (4 children)

          We give a fuck if we ourselves have the mentality of a 12 year old. I feel your passion in your writing but all I can think about is how most most men and indeed people have ridiculously underdeveloped and delusional mentalities. I don't know why you feel the need to talk down on people. There's a lot of work to be done and the people you are seething on are honestly not deserving of it. They are leafs being blown about in the damn wind, feel sorry for them if anything. Why make it us vs them? That's so counter productive

          [–]Rosenmyah 17 points18 points  (9 children)

          Isn't this a bit extreme? Don't any of you in this sub have strong, respectable, loving mothers? Aunts? Grandmothers? Neighbors? I have women in my family and have worked with many women who are pleasant to be around, hardworking, and have great personalities. You don't have to go your whole life hating women and thinking they're horrible people.

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            [–]TheIceReaver 9 points10 points  (2 children)

            Sure. So whats the point then of hooting around and ridiculing the lion and swearing black and blue how dumb the lion is because he lets birds perch on him? Whats that concept about man? Like, that shit doesn't make you 'alpha' and the only laughs and love you get from it are from other 'bigalphamanoverhere' fellows. I guess it's kinda funny but not if it's carried on and on and on about like it is here. Its ultimately just another echo chamber of mental masturbation that will hold you back from the real work at hand. You see that?

            Understand the lion so you can work around the lion, keep your chat sharp (not a broken record trying to copy better records from before you), focus your energy on your task, get the results

            @ u/shitswiththedooropen yeah, this is for you

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              [–]TheIceReaver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              The focus of my analogy is the loud yammering, not the lion or what the lion is doing. You bring up a good point - it's important to have discussion, but my point is obviously about how the "discussion" is carried out...
              ...

              [–]NibblyPig 4 points5 points  (3 children)

              All my aunts grandmothers parents are post-wall. You don't get to do nothing for your whole life then become a parent and somehow become a respectable person. If I am a shit person for 25 years then suddenly learn accountability because my free ride ends I don't suddenly deserve respect.

              I do look back at a father who worked every single week on 8-12 hr shifts at random times of day for my entire life in a job he wasn't mad keen on to provide for his family though and the depths of respect I have for that are bottomless. I don't think he got the life he deserved for it, and I think that's a sentiment to apply across the board.

              [–]Rosenmyah 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              What about a woman who worked 8-12 hour shifts to support her family because some guy knocked her up and ditched town? Ya there is a lot of truth to things that are said about women on this sub but guys are just as capable of being reprehensible pieces of shit. Generalizations are great because they're useful in psychology/sociology but you have to treat people on an individual basis, even though trends HAVE been identified.

              [–]NibblyPig 10 points11 points  (1 child)

              Sure, in that case yes. Also if your parents are unicorns and you were conceived magically I would agree. But at least look at the numbers. Would you stick your hand in a box of snakes because you once met a snake that didn't bite anyone?

              [–]cruzbmx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              god, I couldn't upvote this enough

              [–]Hiimusog 12 points13 points  (0 children)

              He is just still completely in the anger phase, which makes me ponder why he thinks he is suited to teach anyone else anything..

              [–]UFND 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              The whole irony of this post and the flow of comments that have passed by is that this can easily be interpreted as coming from a place of anger or resent, even if good intentions are there.

              And no woman will ever spread their legs to a ManChild or Kidult in genuine desire (be a Rock as per previous threads) - unless you like starfish sex.

              As such there lays the divide between those in the Anger Phase, those yet to reach it, and those that are beyond it.

              Truth trumps lies. And if the truth of your nature is hell and fury, then the chances of good looking women seeing through your facade of confidence will be higher.1 Then she'll be as dry as sand, not because you're another AFC, but instead from fear.

              1. Alternatively because humans are adaptive organisms, good looking woman might just be dumb instead. Who's to know she got through life with beauty over brain? She wouldn't know any better.

              [–]metallicdrama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              This. As soon as she knows you care what she thinks per se, she doesn't respect you as a leader and sperm donor. The key is to honestly respect the few good ideas she does occasionally have, because she is your copilot, be indifferent otherwise, and lead by example without openly criticizing her or arguing. This works because deep down, they don't care what you think either lol. Only the most damaged insecure women give two shits what a man thinks, and because of projection they figure other people are the same. They only care how you navigate life and handle shit. Not giving a fuck without being a dick about it gets a wider range of pussy.

              [–]Millhousegoku777 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              700th upvote & my first comment ever! Been reading for 1.5 years silently. Thanks to TRP for everything I have learned.

              [–]tolerantman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Women are 'tough' as long as they have groups of men to defend them.

              We can make them cry by saying mean things about them.

              [–]0010000100111111 8 points9 points  (2 children)

              You don't need to put women down to pull yourself or other men up. There are valuable women in the world, my friend. You're overgeneralizing quite a bit here. This isn't a place to bash women or put them down - but, rather to share experiences on how to be more successful in life in general. Self-development and becoming a better version of yourself will facilitate attracting good women (and bad women) into your life.

              Surely, if you want, you can simply "slay" as many women as you want - that's your prerogative. I will concede to the fact that some women are only worthy of having sex with as they would add no value to your life otherwise due to poor character.

              [–]Shukakun 15 points16 points  (1 child)

              Generalizing is how we've survived for thousands of years as a species. If I see a panther, I'm going to assume it wants to kill me and act accordingly. If, after some time, it turns out that the panther isn't killing me, I might change my opinion of this particular panther, but not panthers in general.

              Thinking "Women in general aren't as philosophically developed as me, and this one probably isn't either, but if she proves me wrong, I'll change my opinion of her" isn't evil, just realistic. Sure, it sucks for her to have to prove herself, but as you know, we men have to do a lot of that too. And sure, you can meet new people with an open mind, the whole innocent until proven guilty thing, no need to be negative and hostile in everyday life.

              [–]0010000100111111 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Being cautious shouldn't be exclusive to just women, but also to men. Although, I will agree that are differences in approach to having relationships with men and women (romantic & platonic).

              I will agree that judging has helped humans survive for thousands of years, but I think generalizing is a bad form of judging because it frames whatever you're placing judgement on in a negative light (the opposite of what is required to have an open mind...).

              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Posts like this are asinine. Anybody who is actually redpill knows that women have inherent value due to them being the "selectors". Men are the "selected". This is our nature. The biggest reason men strive to better themselves is to make themselves more appealing to the opposite sex.

              Why the fuck do you think you came to TRP in the first place- a sub that is based on MALE SEXUAL STRATEGY and the best advice to do so is to better yourself. Lifting, being more social, earning more money.... all sexual strategy.

              You're not on a subreddit for building virtue to be free of attachment. You'd think more people would realize women's value is in their looks and fertility.

              And let's face it. Most guys are fucking losers! Look around at all the average shmucks. Sitting around smoking weed, playing video games, not doing shit with their lives.

              A FEW MEN actually make something of themselves. To act like men as a whole are somehow better than women is the dumbest shit I've heard in my life.

              Look at a bell curve, men and women mostly fall in the same middle. The only difference is there are MORE men at the low end, and MORE men at the high end.

              Where does that leave 80% of people? Average. Most people are lazy, dumb, mouth breathers. To get a boner because you're a man is absurd. There are plenty of women who try and better themselves.

              Why do you think women love fashion and makeup? THEIR VALUE IS IN THEIR LOOKS. They do "self-improvement" but they're DIFFERENT than we are. FFS, go jerk off to how awesome men are.

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (16 children)

              OP, nothing you said here isnt true and I look forward to your essays but I can't help noticing you seem a bit angrier at women today than your usual reflective self.

              Nothing wrong with being angry, just curious what motivates you to write this one.

              [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

              Honestly no one is going to believe this but I wrote this with 0 anger towards women or anything. My "misogyny" is a dispassionate view of how women are. Now... I had some fun triggering BPers after they lost their shit over the title but I mean cmon, who wouldn't :D.

              The older I get the more I develop myself and it becomes even more glaringly obvious how women don't because they don't have to.

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Homeless men probably have more character than the average woman

              [–]JarJar-PhantomMenace 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Op do you not have any female relatives or something? Did you come out of your dads ass or something? Little too far. So many generalizations here it's ridiculous. Have some respect.

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              [–]hahayeahthatscool 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              How about you actually point out what part of what he said was wrong so we can all laugh at you?

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                [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                DO NOT UPVOTE THIS COMMENT (PAST 0 KARMA). BELOW THIS LINE LIE THE REMAINS OF TRIGGERED SNOWFLAKES. RIP IN PEACE SNOWFLAKES


                [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                And so they downvoted you.... heh. Need to work on strategic thought, gov.

                [–]UFND 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                The problem is not just the triggered BPers.

                There also lies a conflict between points-of-views between pre-RP (there's quite a fair bit to read now, enough for people not to read it, and just post instead), co-RP (anger phase, depression phase, all the misery and suffering, etc), post-RP (swallowing them no longer leads to indigestion) and PPers (cognitive dissonance stage).

                I tried to capture the essence of the issue in a separate comment, but AutoMod doesn't allow internal subreddit links :(

                [–]victordmor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Excellent. Outstanding post. Thank you, brother.

                [–]wsba910am 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Brilliant post. BP transitioning to RP here. I think the main reason I have thought so highly of women is threefold: movie fiction (e.g. Disney), a brutally manipulative mother who forced me to literally treat her as God, and I just don't know other women well enough to say, "you're fucking stupid and shallow, and the only thing going for you is you're hot".

                I know my mother well enough though

                [–]huge_gap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Generally I agree but I see and know hardworking women that navigate difficult and stressful situations in their professional/business lives that aren't entitled children but act more like men. In fact I've seen them succeed and perform better than some lazy pussy-ass cucks.

                Good post but generalizing too much. Most women are like this but not all. Not saying they're unicorns and to wife them or anything but there are women that succeed and work harder than some men.

                [–]Mattcwu -1 points0 points  (9 children)

                That's beautiful women, sure. But, do you also think ugly women have the world handed to them on a silver platter? I do not.

                [–]Willow-girl 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                Nor do average-looking women.

                WHERE IS MY FREE SHIT AND PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT? I WANT MY FREE SHIT AND PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, DAMNIT!!!!!111!!

                [–]hahayeahthatscool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Nah u idiot, the whole point is average looking girls will always get preferential treatment in comparison to an average looking guy. Just because u have a hole between your legs.

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                [–]shnomoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                If "women are the gender of default success" it is only because men bestow that success onto them. Who is then in the true role of power? The men who try desperately to get laid and define themselves by their history with women? Or the women who watch as the men flock to approach them at bars? Men who feel they have to prove their worth by sleeping with beautiful women are hopeless slaves to societal pressures. How sad of an existence that must be, to define yourself by such arbitrary definitions of success. True power is knowing that feeling the need to display "dominance" is the true sign of weakness, because when you are truly powerful nothing has an effect on you and you need not prove anything to anyone because all you need is yourself. You rely on no other being.

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