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Men's RightsRed Pill Going Mainstream: I thought I was reading a Reddit Post on this Fox News column! (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor

From Fox News:

Male Backlash Against Metoo is Brewing

Men are scared, and feminists are delighted. But the urge to call out and punish male sexual transgression is bound to clash with an inescapable truth: We’re all in this together, men and women.

Read carefully. Men being "scared" is fine until it affects......women!

Female staffers and lobbyists have found “many male legislators will no longer meet with them privately,” reported The Miami Herald. “I had a senator say, ‘I need my aide here in the room because I need a chaperone,’ ” lobbyist Jennifer Green told the paper. “I said, ‘Senator, why do you need a chaperone? . . . Do you feel uncomfortable around me?’ ‘Well,’ he said, ‘anyone can say anything with the door shut.’ ”

Oh No! Women are being affected by the whole Metoo thing. It is time to back off! We are all in this together don't ya know. Men and women, together. Forever. LMFAO.

“I’m getting the feeling that we’re going back 20 years as female professionals,” said Green, who owns her company. “I fully anticipate I’m going to be competing with another firm that is currently owned by some male, and the deciding factor is going to be: ‘You don’t want to hire a female lobbying firm in this environment.’ ”

HAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHH!!!!!!! Do you mean that extreme actions beget extreme reactions? Who knew?

This kind of thinking is catching on in aggressively P.C. Silicon Valley, where men are taking to message boards like Reddit to express interest in sex segregation — sometimes labeled “Men Going Their Own Way,” or the “Man-o-Sphere.”

Yah! She said it. So what is important about MGTOW and the Manosphere?

How will that work out for women in the tech industry, where they already face substantial challenges?

Of course.

My guess is not good. The Pence rule, as advocated by none other than the professor, is now in full force and effect. Men are not stupid and we are not going to be put into helpless situations where 'anybody can say anything' BUT women are to be believed.

Nope!

Several major companies have told us they are now limiting travel between the genders

Yes they are. But don't forget what is important. How is all this going to affect THE WOMEN!

If men start to back away from women, at least in professional settings, it’s difficult to see how that will aid the feminist cause.

Oh, so not good huh. Maybe this Metoo thing wasn't such a good idea. Maybe going for the jugular and total supremacy was a bridge to far? Of course none of that matters. The important thing is how it affects the women. Got it. Goddesses must be comfortable. KK.

Wait, what happens if we decide to MAKE THEM A BIT UNCOMFORTABLE? Maybe something happens? Who knows.

be wary of unintended consequences. Turning men and women into hostile opposing camps is not going to be good for either sex.

We are WAY past that point broh. Way past it.


[–]Coroshi 551 points552 points  (10 children)

Boy does this remind me of the meme where the kid puts a stick in his own bicycle wheel, falls down and cries.

[–]Da_llluminati 171 points172 points  (1 child)

"Stupid men! Feminism pls help"

[–]newls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This fallout perfectly distills the self-harming that third wave feminism has done to women at large, because they realise the reality is that yes, in fact, they rely on men for everything of any meaning in this world.

They can talk inane nothingness for hours with their girlfriends, but at the end of the day they need men to build them a house, build them a smartphone, and produce their food.

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    [–]Throwawaysteve123456 22 points23 points  (1 child)

    [–]zestytacoz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    STEM is hard. Complaining is easy.

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      [–]BertranThePharmacist 190 points191 points  (0 children)

      she just discovered she has a new power: the power to ruin the career
      ...
      anyone can say anything with the door shut

      And people on this sub are still asking why many men are "overthinking" or "overreacting" to poundmetoo.

      [–]refunkulation 171 points172 points  (10 children)

      I remember hearing from this Texas businessman when I was in college, the father of my friend, he told me 13 years ago that he's extremely careful to have any meetings alone with women. He's afraid to even be in an elevator alone with a woman, especially if they are not American.

      Getting dirt on people has been around forever, we just added in an excessive mass media culture + social media + an entire generation of people growing up from the terrible Baby Boomer generation that its exceeded logic.

      Its hilarious though that women can start all female companies and be "champions of women's rights" and choose to not do business with men (and fall by the wayside after their model inevitably fails), but if men do the same thing its harassment.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 150 points151 points  (8 children)

      30 years ago I learned to not be around military females in private, or be friendly with them on or off duty. I stopped talking to them entirely except for mission essential conversation. They partnered me with females in my physically demanding job because I could pull their weight easily, but I made damn sure to say nothing to them even remotely not involved with the task at hand and mission only conversation. You can't berate them, and as a supervisor you have to have all kinds of evidence to write them up, and then it's usually overruled by the chain of command. Never be alone in a room with a girl when you're writing her up, they drive that into the head of every male NCO. Overseas bars I went to the men get an extra briefing about going off base to get laid instead of playing Russian roulette with girls in green. Sure as fuck can't say that in front of the girls.

      I thrilled that I don't need to worry about any of that shit anymore.

      [–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 30 points31 points  (0 children)

      Pretty fucked up that something that is usually frowned upon for safety/secrecyreasons (sleeping with local girls) is considered safer than the girls from your own team.

      [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

      Vet here. I served in the Marine Corps in a combat arm. After a while I went upstairs to the gender integrated regimental headquarters. I cannot even describe how night and day these environments are. It's so obvious for anyone to see how fucked up the gender integrated units are. It is like a high school class. And what is the solution... better leadership of course! What a fucking joke.

      In fact, some of the platoons in HQ were gender integrated and a few were all male, so it's literally a perfect natural experiment playing out right in front of your eyes. The gender integrated platoons were like a high school class. People fucking. False rape accusations. Lack of military bearing and discipline. Girls crying (yes, girls in the Marine Corps cry ALL THE FUCKING TIME). Girls getting out of field exercises. The military is seriously in trouble folks. I know most people don't care because it doesn't directly affect their lives. Hopefully the country doesn't face any existential threats that will really require hard fighting anytime soon.

      [–]Selfishaltruist181 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Honestly both hilarious and scary at the same time. On one hand your decreasing the combat effectiveness of a unit having integration between the sex's and the other its like, they see the statistics, they see that those squads are jokes compared to the others. How do they justify using the military as a political tool. While decreasing your ability to fight someone. What if they have to be combat ready? Do they see action and just fucking cry while gun shots go on around them?

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Well there's no statistics for what I'm talking about. It's inherently difficult to measure. The Marine Corps did set up a legit experiment when all this was being talked about. They formed an entire experimental infantry unit and compared all male vs mixed gender platoons, and this was using the top females that volunteered to be part of it. The mixed gender platoons of course got crushed in any direct measurement against the all male platoons.

      The Navy Secretary said the study was biased. The decision had already been made.

      There's a lot of blame to go around. Obviously Obama and his minions, but this was not unexpected from him. It's pretty incredible how little the generals did to fight back though. A few Marine generals spoke out but not many, and not a single army general that I'm aware of. They all should have threatened to resign in mass. These are guys that are already past 20 years. They would still get their pensions. I guess they love their precious fucking careers so much that they would rather to go for that extra star and a couple thousand more in the pension than try to actually do something to help us. Once you get that high I think you are more or less addicted to the power trip.

      [–]Jester2552 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      100% true in my experience as well. Females operate by a different set of rules and standards in the military

      [–]Bing_Bang_Bam 144 points145 points  (36 children)

      Feminism has basically declared war on men. The thing is, Men Love war.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 87 points88 points  (2 children)

      men love competition, not so much war. Bring a fight to us that we didn't start, and those of us who aren't weak fuck feminists will fight back, and we can handle far more bullshit than any girl.

      [–]Riace 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      It's not really gonna be much of a fight tho. Men will just get on with solid, hard work whilst the vocal feminists will contribute nothing of value to society thus alienating more and more of their fanbase.

      Some times you win by not taking part. Some times all the other side needs to lose is enough time to hang themselves with.

      [–]Selfishaltruist181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I know its said alot here but "hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times" This is very much becoming hard times for men very fast. Honestly the red pill is evidence of that. Weak men come here because they are faced with hard times, the red pill makes them into strong men. So the irony of it all is feminism, which is now oppressing men, to make them more weak, is making us stronger and smarter.

      [–]1RPLawyer 18 points19 points  (31 children)

      If men love war, why are we losing it? Why are we not figuratively slapping feminism in the face and telling it to go back to where it belong? I think most alpha males died in WW2 and all we are left with are the soyboys.

      [–]deville05 76 points77 points  (1 child)

      not really. men have yet to come to realise that its war. secondly... the they want to sleep with the enemy too. so its confusing.

      [–]satellitecolorskin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Until recently this was more of a break up than a war, and women deal with break ups better.

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        [–]PhaedrusHunt 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Nah. My grandfather was a machinist on the Manhattan project. Alph AF. Passed it on to two of his four sons (my dad and my uncle) who passed it on to me and my cousin. My dad had some serious BP programming along the way but all in all was alpha. My grandfather never had to live through the social revolutions of the 60s. My dad is diababled and divorced from my mom that divorce raped him. He's broke. I got divorce raped early enough (age 37) to bounce back, not 57 like he was.

        I talk to him about the concepts here, and he drinks it up. He's glad I'm getting back some of the lost ground, and that I'll teach this stuff to my own son.

        I look at my six year old boy. He's got it. He's gonna be fine. He's being raised in a femjnized world by psychotic, unattractive women in the school and city we're in. But he's smart. I'll teach him to look with his eyes. Believe what he sees, not what he hears. He'll be alright.

        [–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Because they are pumped full of ritalin, antidepressants, feministmedia (eg hollywood) and culture and law is setup to discount/remove fathers.

        It's not that geneticly weak Men are left. Male knowledge isn't getting passed on, hence the rapid opportunity for growth for men that discover redpill.

        [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (1 child)

        Re read The Manipulated Man (it’s on the sidebar). You cannot fight a phantasm or an illusion, it is not real. It is like creationists arguing with scientists, you cannot dissuade the creationist from believing the world was created magically. Think of it like this, a man and a woman decide they will sort out their argument in one of two ways, first option is a boxing match, the second option is a talk about who can best describe how wonderful the book 50 Shades of Gray is. They go for option 2 and the man then wonders why he lost the argument. Third wave Feminism is a myth, a lie, an illusion. You cannot beat an emotional argument with facts. We are on their battle ground and we cannot possibly win. Fortunately it is like the snake that eats itself, it is just a matter of time before third wave feminism collapses under it’s own weight.

        [–]PhaedrusHunt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        We are on their battle ground and we cannot possibly win.

        Basically THE definition of frame.

        [–]AmazingAsianGuy776 4 points5 points  (3 children)

        Well the opponent are women and it was always considered wrong to fight with a women. It was looked down upon. I find that women are men's biggest weakness. No matter how smart someone is, they become stupid in front of women unless they learn to train themselves otherwise. Even then we have a tendency to fuck up. I think it's in our instincts to protect women. Even during war it was rare to kill and murder the women and children and was considered cruel. Guess we also rather capture them and fuck em back then as well. Seriously who wants to fight a girl? Yes I had more than one bitch that I wanted and had the intention to beat the shit out of but fight? That's embarrassing really. This "war" is only happening cuz now we're literally on the brink of life or death. We don't really have a choice. So the biggest reason why we're still "losing" is simply because we didn't really start fighting back yet and we still have a shit tons of blue pilled cunts that wants to be the "good guy". We're still in the process of gathering our troops and figuring out our game plan. No one really knows what we want to do. A good portion of us just want to get a sex doll and be over with it. The only thing we know is this shit is getting out of hand and we need to do something. Are we going to go back to before feminism and take away all the rights females have? Take away their voting rights? Try to create "equality" between men and women and try to balance things out again? What we gon do? Everyone has a different opinion on it to really know what to do yet. We didn't even join the war yet that is the only reason why it looks like we are "losing". Once we have a general to lead, a game plan in hand, and enough troops to go into battle, it'll be over before you can blink and realize what happened.

        [–]goatwithbeergoggles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The precondition for a civilised society is that men give away power for the benefit of everyone, meaning that identity politics and feminism only exist because they're allowed to. When men get pushed too hard to feel shame about their skin colour, gender, sex drive etc. they will eventually stop playing along. So we get the growth of movements like the alt-right. The feminists only see one possible reaction: escalating the conflict. Obviously, this plays right into the hands of the group that derives its strength from a lack of civilisation rather than the one that owes its very existence to the comforts of civilised society.

        It is inevitable that feminism will lose such a conflict - but it will undoubtedly be a bloody and painful process and we don't know what will actually be left of democracy and civilisation afterwards.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Your assumtion is flawed. You can love war(and be good at war)....and still lose, such as the Third Reich in WWII. However, men are not losing. You're seeing a battle surge. And, the amount of effort and energy the Feminist side is putting out is not proportional to the ground being gained. In fact, with every "victory" they're weakening their position like this post details. Itsy bitsy spider type dilemma for them.

        [–][deleted] 376 points377 points  (95 children)

        Metoo was never about helping women. It was about keeping betas in their place.

        [–]refunkulation 217 points218 points  (62 children)

        I think its also social evolution at work. There are two movements among "feminists" working against one another simultaneously. This is about power in the workplace vs. men, but its also about taming women too who are stepping on the sexual territory of other women.

        There is article after article of women in their mid-30s who can't find a partner. This is evolution at work, pissed off women who can't get married who fear younger women dwindling down the mating pool even more.

        Women are fighting women in the sexual marketplace now as well. So you've got metoo in the workplace to gain more power against men, but simultaneously you have these same women carving out territory in the sexual market to prevent other women from having too much sex and threatening their ground.

        Not to mention, if you throw in the extreme heightism women possess that is obvious in the online dating game, and any man under 5'8" is considered toxic waste. Everyone truly is losing in the conditions set forth by women!

        Also, this entire movement is basically only about white girls too. I heard a great point, all the demographic movements of suburban young white girls moving to like New York City, living in Brooklyn and suddenly getting a dose of reality has thrown them for a loop. A black girl I know responded to the Aziz case by saying "I would have told him to fuck off if he wanted a blowjob and I didn't want to sleep with him". Black women and Latino women in major cities operate in a far more alpha culture than white women do.

        [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 188 points189 points  (14 children)

        You nailed it on the point about washed up women fighting the competition. It was good for their careers years ago, but now that they're out and younger women are in those career advancing BJs were rape? Uh huh. Riiiight.

        Cue that picture of all those wen kissing all over Weinstein years back on the red carpet, but now calling him out as a sexual predator.

        These women traded sexual favors for career advancement and knew exactly what they were doing and now they regret it and realize younger women will replace them. Cry me a fucking river.

        [–]refunkulation 143 points144 points  (12 children)

        Lol exactly. If you read the Uma Thurman article, she's like patient zero here. She is Miramax's golden girl post-Pulp Fiction. Then she has a fuzzy memory but says Weinstein made a pass at her and then "tried to expose himself to her" (in the article, she REALLY makes vague claims, just says he pushed himself on her, she's probably afraid of a libel suit I'd imagine and thus intentionally says she doesn't remember all the details, then makes 60% of the article about a workplace incident against Tarantino because "fuck men" right?).

        But, then goes onto work with him for years and years after the supposed "horrific" incident, because it was shockingly, good for her career. Weinstein even sent out a cache of photos of her kissing Weinstein on the cheek, eating food with him, photographing the two of them together at all kinds of events.

        Only now, when she's 47 and recently divorced, for the third time, hasn't appeared in a movie since that shitty one Burnt from 2015, and has FOUR films coming out in 2018, she has to say 3 months ago she needs time to "process her anger before she can speak out".

        I feel so sorry for her for having to relive her "traumatic" experience with him, especially after she had no issue smiling, talking, and taking his money for 15+ years after the "incident".

        [–]AncientScrolls 52 points53 points  (5 children)

        Only now, when she's 47 and recently divorced, for the third time, hasn't appeared in a movie since that shitty one Burnt from 2015, and has FOUR films coming out in 2018, she has to say 3 months ago she needs time to "process her anger before she can speak out".

        I feel so sorry for her for having to relive her "traumatic" experience with him, especially after she had no issue smiling, talking, and taking his money for 15+ years after the "incident".

        Uma Thurman is the typical hb 7 snowflake girl , who got to the top by using her looks when she was younger. She knows her SMV is decaying each day as she gets old and her looks fade away. She is desperately trying to get some attention from the media and Hollywood to relieve her good old ways.

        Poor self centered SJW Woman. She will probably end up sad and alone.

        [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        See also: Ashley Judd. Boy is she bitter.

        [–]juliusstreicher 25 points26 points  (3 children)

        I feel so sorry for her for having to relive her "traumatic" experience with him, especially after she had no issue smiling, talking, and taking his money for 15+ years after the "incident".

        I'm pretty sure that she was going to file police charges, but, she wanted to see whom they were going to hire for Kill Bill first.

        [–]SlainFunicle 12 points13 points  (2 children)

        Uma Thurman

        she release footage of a crash blaming everyone even though she was the one driving

        [–]beginner_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        To be fair is probably not a good idea to drive down at 40 mph a dirt road in a insecure car if you don't know what you are doing.

        We don't know how much she was pressured to drive herself on the other hand a strong person should resist to enter a potentially hazardous situation. my impression is Tarantino talked her into it and she regret it afterwards. Of course that rhetoric doesn't work well because it contradicts the "strong independent women" mantra.

        [–]beginner_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Yeah that article was ridiculous. She was never forced to act on another movie created by Weinstein and/or Tarantino. She did it with full knowledge what can happen but obviously the fame and money was more than enough to compensate for the possible abuse.

        What's more puzzling is this focus on the driving incident with the subtext that Weinstein and Tarantino conspired to get her killed. In the end however she was pressured (if at all?) she decided to drive and she could have backed-out of the scene. Meaning she is either weak (so much about the strong independent women) or really did not mind all that much,

        [–]newls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        You nailed it on the point about washed up women fighting the competition. It was good for their careers years ago, but now that they're out and younger women are in those career advancing BJs were rape? Uh huh. Riiiight.

        The hilarity is that each generation of women, through their solipsism and narcissism, literally cannot see that their time as the young cohort within the female gender will pass by.

        Rejecting prospect after prospect after prospect through sheer overwhelming numbers of interested men only for it crash to a halt at The Wall, it's an ego destruction that causes fucking dangerous damaging behaviour (all this #MeToo shit) borne out of sheer desperation.

        Women never doubt themselves on ethical grounds, full stop. But a desperate woman in her mid-thirties who spent her twenties rejecting dozens of perfectly nice eligible men to find herself single but for her cats, puts this condition into overdrive.

        [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (1 child)

        You have hit the nail on the head when you say this is only about white girls. I will take that a step further, it is about rich, post wall white girls. Just look at the main players. McGowan, Milano, Thurman. They were once the hot blue chip stock, now their market value is non existent, so they want to cash in again on their former bad choices. They used their sex appeal as a cheque book and now they want to renegotiate the payout. In Africa and most of Asia women do not act like this.

        [–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (9 children)

        In the workplace, its about equal outcomes. True Marxism.

        In society, its to eliminate obligatory sex to undeserving men.

        [–]refunkulation 37 points38 points  (7 children)

        You're absolutely right about Marxism.

        While in society, yes it is sort of about eliminating obligatory sex, I don't think women have a problem with obligatory sex for beta men as long as they get something out of it (i.e., commitment, marriage, etc.). And as long as (beta guy) has a decent job she'll be willing to compromise at a certain age. Just you have a dwindling number of beta or alpha guys in these corporate environments, which all happen to be in this super liberal cities, while having a higher number of seemingly young millennial girls spoiled their entire lives from the suburbs moving into cities, with their rent being paid by daddy.

        The women who have been in these corporate environments for 10+ years in their 30s who grew up with the 90's/2000s feminist ideas of "a woman can have it all, work/marriage/family!" who now have less numbers of males to choose from because they 1) delayed marriage 2) were misinformed about how sexual politics actually work and that life isn't about having it all 3) probably dismissed most men who now would be suitable because they were trying to marry upwards and it never happened and now the market has shrunk, they're afraid of the remaining 35-40 year old men opting for younger women.

        Those mid-to-late 30 year old women are fucked right now, and all these younger 20 year old women in a much larger cohort of millennials are stacking up in these cities. This is the most numerous generation in the country, and while I'm technically a millennial at 31 years old, I was born in the mid-80s and having nothing in common with the types who don't even have a memory of 9/11.

        If you just look at raw demographics in America now, its obscene how many women are packed into LA, SF, NYC, etc. Even though I hate their politics, the NYTimes publishes great data on these kinds of demographic trends and it backs up the sexual competition theory well, you can see just how significant numbers of younger women are working in these cities in the wealthiest neighborhoods.

        In Utah, where women work a lot less and men work a lot more than the national average (but you also have stable married religious families) there are balanced conditions at work that lead to great economic mobility conditions. Turns out the family values type Republicans promoting free market capitalism as a means of moving up the economic ladder proves to be true, capitalism works, and upward mobility works even better if there is the nuclear family involved (although I'll admit Utah does also have a mainly homogenous population as well).

        If I could figure out how to use archive.org I'd link, but the two data articles I'm referencing are titled: "In Climbing Income Ladder, Location Matters" & "Where Working Women Are Most Common" if you're curious.

        [–][deleted] 84 points85 points  (1 child)

        no dude. women used to be ok with transactional sex with betas. it was tolerated.

        metoo is about breaking free of that obligation and keeping what betas provide

        Most women held their nose and fucked harvey to get famous. that situation is being redefined as assault

        [–]SuperCrazy07 14 points15 points  (3 children)

        they're afraid of the remaining 35-40 year old men opting for younger women

        It's much worse than that.

        Yes, there are a few amazing guys that age who date younger women, but the big issue is that the vast majority of 35-40 year old men who are still single suck at life.

        I know a few women that age who are single and every time they bring a guy around its embarrassing (no college, low income job, lives at home or with a roommate, etc).

        tl;dr While TRP advocates not getting married, the reality is most quality men do get married and by 35 they're taken.

        [–]Gozsayin 15 points16 points  (0 children)

        I have to disagree. Alot of men 35-40 and single are either recently divorce or had enough experience with woman to be more selective of their partner aka younger woman or aleast a much easier to handle type of lady.

        I know from my point of view if your an older woman with no man it's a major Red flag but and older man with no Woman could be a loser but is probably just playing a string game of chess where old hags are the pawns.

        [–]chaseemall 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Well, who did they get married to? Someone of the same age cohort? If that was the case, and it's mostly losers that don't get married, then what are the ramifications of that. Had those men been gainfully employed, would the women have gotten married? Had those women been willing, would the men have been gainfully employed? However, I'm not certain that this is the case.

        Remember Rollo's Discussion of the Sexual Marketplace? In particular, remember the infamous graph? Men and women mature at different schedules. Men in their early thirties are ascendant. Women in their early thirties are in profound decline. Men in their forties are distinguished. Women in their forties are disgusting. So it's far more likely that the unmarried men in their early thirties, having been spurned by the women of their age cohort who, desirous to have it all, engorged themselves on the combination of the cock carousel and career-building (also a cock carousel), are now enjoying the attentions of women in their twenties, who are at their sexual peak. Thusly, these men, enjoying the attentions of far more attractive women, have neither the time, nor the inclination, for women in their thirties. This would account for what you've observed of women in their 40's bringing home losers.

        Having only a few men, as you note, dating younger women, doesn't make sense, as their smv should be far higher.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Which is why the Marxist/leftist movement requires a break down of religion as well a breakdown of the nuclear family. Both are simply value systems at their core which interfere with the Marxist mandate of overarching government control.

        r vs K sexual selection theory. The war is not between men and women, it's between the low IQs and the high IQs, which the lowers attempting to subjugate the highers through legislative control. Replace God with the State and have their representatives become their new priesthood.

        [–]destraht 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This is why I say that Marxism destroys price discovery in all markets it touches including; sexual markets, fruit markets, bread markets, apartment markets.

        [–]1Tommy_407 45 points46 points  (9 children)

        Brooklyn resident here can confirm. I wrote a thread on this a whileback titled "why is masculinity better preserved in lower socioeconomic cultures", and my observations were directly from what I've seen living in Brooklyn, Newark, & Chicago.

        This is gonna sound very keyboard Chad-esque, but BTW: As a suburban white male, living (transplanted to) in Brooklyn, being 6'0, 255 (currently running Test & Clenbuterol), I can promise you, that #metoo does not apply to me or my lookalikes.

        You dont have to perceive me as alpha, but lookswise, I am atleast by women the perceived alpha, and I have gotten away with more "transgressive" remarks this past year than you can imagine. I even had a die hard feminist STR recently who was my BDSM sex slave who I would walk on a Leash and make her tell me "im a filthy whore" during blowjobs.

        I have never been a target of #metoo albeit i do not act creepy, I firmly agree that #metoo is to keep (perceived) betas in check.

        [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (6 children)

        Yo i live in Brooklyn too. Lots of girls out here (especially the feminists) are freaks in the sack. The feminist and SJW women I know are the dirtiest whores you can imagine and fuck like pornstars. I sometimes wonder if it's a bullshit front/shit test and they're just projecting their sexual thirst. On top of that, I find it's a lot easier to stand out amongst men than in my native Boston cause Brooklyn's flooded with scrawny ass soy boys and gay dudes or 5 ft mexican guys. On top of that, just the feminist weak dick social atmosphere out here.. It's pretty easy to appear "edgy" or more alpha than the masses.

        Fuck, even soy boys get laid out here.. My roommate is the definition of one, post modern theory junkie, male feminist, bernie bro, has no sense of humor and can't laugh at offensive jokes.. That kid usually gets laid at least once every 2 weeks. Although he's also like 6'3".

        I'm only 5'8" not a lot of muscle but I lift and am toned and can do ok when I put in effort. Been taking a break to focus on my studies though.

        [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

        Can confirm that feminist Brooklynites do in fact like sucking cock on the sly in hotel rooms that they pay for

        Sooo liberating to take money from evil patriarchy (beta husbands) and spend it on the exact type of man they cant stand

        [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        The only reason they "can't stand" the guy is because he refuses to submit to her and she actually craves that type of alpha rock. Beta hubby just gives in to her whims and wishes and he’s a pushover that enables her runaway female impulses.

        Women finding the 50 shades type of guy attractive is just as common as guys preferring a woman with a slim/fit hourglass figure and nice boobs who's traditionally feminine and submissive.

        [–]1Tommy_407 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Dude, I fucking couldn't agree more & I've been waiting for someone to post a comment like yours so I could relate to it forever now.

        Its pretty damn prime climate for getting laid out here, especially with all the feminist SJWs dude its insane, confirm fucking soy boys are also getting laid like hell.

        If you are halfway alpha and not a total hipster, and you are lifting properly you do stand out here as pretty edgy and even the local girls that grew up in brooklyn with their accents can always appreciate a red pill guy and they are usually easier than the tradcon girls in Staten and Long Island because they grew up in a more blue collar atmosphere.

        The whole SJW thing with the pseudo punk rock feminist look has always been a projection to some degree but yes they are all complete freaks in bed.

        Man we should have a red pill meetup in brooklyn lol

        [–]Mylominderbinder 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        "Creepy" is a woman's definition of a man she's not attracted to making advances on her. Hence why you get away with a lot of shit because you don't fall in to the spectrum of unattractive male. You said it yourself.

        [–]thefisherman1961 16 points17 points  (9 children)

        Women are fighting women in the sexual marketplace now as well.

        What do you mean “now”? Women have always been competing viciously with each other for access to high quality sperm and provisional men. Our society has just evolved to the point where they do it on a much higher level than they did in the past.

        Not to mention, if you throw in the extreme heightism women possess that is obvious in the online dating game, and any man under 5'8" is considered toxic waste. Everyone truly is losing in the conditions set forth by women!

        Most Women are terrible at judging height, you can literally lie by 2-3 inches on your profile and they won’t know the difference as long as you’re taller than them.

        [–]refunkulation 20 points21 points  (2 children)

        They have been competing for high quality men always, but in recent generations, it was in their own self-interest to just marry when they found a decent enough guy, there wasn't as much of a drive to rise as high as possible and keep playing high stakes poker, if she found a suitable enough beta guy then she'd settle, because the idea of not being married for women would be like a scarlet letter.

        Women, as a whole, don't do as well independently. Men are independent, we don't feel the need to pair up, we don't care about the social stigmas attached. Women do, and its a serious issue for them if they can't find a mate. I know a few women who are unmarried in their late 30s/40s who are still trying to get married, they're off the charts insane and have completely themselves to blame for their situation. They thought they could win at the office politics and choose when to settle. Then when they hit 33 and time is running out, they aren't able to marry up, and maybe are seeing guys their age marry younger women in larger numbers.

        Just now with less educated men across all demographics, there are less men to marry up. The net number of educated men is lower than it used to be, and because they chose to go for their career at a younger age vs. a family life, they've boxed themselves in and now have to settle.

        I agree they've always viciously played the game, but the ones who wanted a career first then marriage misplayed their hand. They expected at a later age there would be a lot of educated men to choose from and they're wrong. They're just afraid of the huge number of millennial 22-28 year olds stealing whats left of the mid-30s men, so putting fear into men who date around more is a way to tip the odds in their favor.

        Its why the Aziz case to me could have been an agenda by an older feminist. It was anonymous, by design. Young 22 year old thinks she's abused, etc. Now its scaring men that they can be accused of sexual harassment when they literally did absolutely nothing wrong, morally or legally. Older women trying to scare the bachelor men into pairing up before they get the harassment label.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        They expected at a later age there would be a lot of educated men to choose from and they're wrong.

        Interestingly, the modern movement of gender equality caused the pendulum swing in the opposite directly in education from kindergarten onward. The move which was intended to give girls more advantages, left boys behind in a big way. Proportionally, fewer boys graduated highschool and college. This led to a disproportionate amount of women with higher levels of education and higher earning potential nationwide. Unintentionally this created a smaller pool of potential males which hit all of the "classic" requirements woman had maintained for eons: a more educated, higher earning male than themselves.

        Isn't it funny how every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

        [–]MadeSomewhereElse 9 points10 points  (5 children)

        I'm exactly 6' tall and I've gone out with girls who say they are 5'10" who end up being an inch taller than me. You can say you are taller than you really are, but a lot of women lie on the opposite direction.

        [–]juliusstreicher 7 points8 points  (4 children)

        No joke. I had one gf that insisted that she was only 5'7", when in reality she was only a few inches shorter than my 6'2". I couldn't really understand it, she was almost perfect, and her height was a bonus, but, she just kept up the pretense.

        [–]MadeSomewhereElse 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        I ran with a girl for a while who was about an inch taller than me and, as a result, insisted that I was in fact 5'9". I got out the tape measure one day and had her measure me to show her that she was in reality 6'1" tall.

        [–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        It's the same reason why guys send dick-pics and girls have profiles with an animal in the picture; they mistakenly believe the other sex cares about the same things as themselves. And a tall girl who is honest about her height expects fewer responses/likes.

        [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

        all the demographic movements of suburban young white girls moving to like New York City, living in Brooklyn and suddenly getting a dose of reality has thrown them for a loop

        Too fucking true. I live in Brooklyn and that's how it is. Spoiled UMC white women from CT and Jersey acting like they don't have human rights. They go out and protest and cry about gentrification, yet they fucking enable it by paying exorbitant rent rates to live in some shithole in crown heights or bedstuy just cause the landlord asks for it. Their parents coddled them their whole lives and never learned you have to speak up and be assertive to get what you want/need.

        These bitches might as well be honest with themselves. They came to the city and figured going to art school was a reason to come live in New York for 4 years while they look for a rich husband/boyfriend/betacuckprovider to settle with in Greenwich connecticut.

        [–]1kevin32 11 points12 points  (5 children)

        Not to mention, if you throw in the extreme heightism women possess that is obvious in the online dating game, and any man under 5'8" is considered toxic waste.

        Example profiles: 1, 2, 3

        [–]MaxWyght 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        #1 is using a friend to increase SMV
        #2 is a fatty that is trying to score way out of her league
        #3 has major crazy eyes

        [–]Ledoborec 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Thats trashy, holy fuck they sometimes deserve the shit.

        [–]fromthecrypt8 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        True, never underestimate the evil selfishness and jealousy of washed up, post-wall hags.

        [–]smaffit 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        This girl who's been throwing me less than subtle cues happened to ask in reference to my friends how tall I was. When my truthful answer of 5'9" came out, she seemed visibly taken aback... I act as big as my big friends, and she didn't understand that I wasn't, despite the fact that I am shorter. 6 feet is an imaginary number for women. They have no frame of reference, its about carrying yourself like you're over 6ft, because Fuck everyone who isn't you. You're the fucking man. Fuck them. Height is imaginary unless you're on the extreme end of the spectrum either way

        [–]jm51 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        There was a social experiment where a class got to interview, in turn, guys from different professions and social class.

        Afterwards, the class was asked to estimate the height of the guys. All of the guys were the same height but the higher class guys were perceived as taller.

        [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (17 children)

        It is far more complex than just keeping betas in their place, it has more to do with female entitlement and group think. Of course when a beta slob like Weinstein or Louis CK attempt to act alpha they get kick back. That may have been a trigger but the overwhelming narrative here has been correctly identified by the professor, female entitlement. It is not just female entitlement though, it is white, rich girl entitlement, solipsism and the toxic mental cancer of feminist ideology. It is not feminism, if it were real feminism then they would have all worn black to the Oscars when the girls were kidnapped by boko haram but this is not about women and girls being raped, it is a power grab. They have simply overplayed their hand and now they are being called on their bluff.

        [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (1 child)

        MeToo is about women pushing against the need to have sex with less than desirable men to secure their needs. Thus all the decade old regret rape accusations flying

        Look at the most visible Metoo cases

        Harvey....Aziz...The bitch in Gowoman magazine who worked at the movie theatre and had a bad date with a chubby loser and had sex because it was easier than saying no at the goalline.

        Its all about retroactive rape becaue the sex didnt involve tingles. That is putting the fear of God into every Brooklyn Bearded IPA sipping soyboy from making a move

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        MeToo is a tribal as well. They want to jump on the bandwagon. Females have serious issues with the FOMO.

        [–]BurnDownTheMission68 1 point2 points  (14 children)

        Weinstein is not a beta

        He had extremely high SMV because of his wealth and personality

        Louis too—not a beta

        [–]spencerc25 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        "Being alpha or being beta" isn't a binary thing. There are alpha behaviors and there are beta behaviors. I can guarantee that when Harvey was making decisions in his company, he was top dog in the room and everyone hung on to every one of his words. I would bet my last dollar he was in meetings puffing his chest, making the top decision, and making his voice heard - all alpha traits.

        Around women, it sounds like the beta behaviors were more prevalent.

        [–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The way he framed the sexual interaction as transactional in nature is what makes him beta. Alphas don't give resources for sex, women give resources and sex to alphas.

        Alpha and beta are determined by the female: why does she fuck him? For resources? Beta. For the pleasure of it? Alpha.

        [–]Gozsayin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Wrong being alpha isn't about money or status it's about keeping frame and having Tru confidence. Weinstein and Louis had wealth and fame but still got fucked because they had weak frame and thought my status would cover for my lack of game/understand in if the pill. That said sometimes bad things happen to good people.

        [–]BigGreekMike 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Weinstein had the alpha attitude in public, but went beta around women. Listen to the recording of him and you can hear it in his voice. His behavior wasn’t alpha dominance, it was beta compulsion.

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (8 children)

        I suggest you learn what beta bucks means before you say that fat, ugly betas are not beta. Moron

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          [–]refunkulation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          The vast majority of the wealthiest people in America are not "alpha" the way most people around here would define the term.

          On a deeper, philosophical level, humanity has progressed to a point whereas to be insanely successful in business, even moderately successful in business, you need to give up things in life because there is a massive time constraint we are all up against (in economic terms, opportunity cost of being wealthy in America requires perhaps giving up the endless pursuit of tail, or of even working out on a daily basis).

          To be successful in America requires adopting beta mentality to an extent because A) to be a business tycoon means appealing to the masses which also means buying political favors and protecting yourself legally and B) requires hiring highly intelligent people around you and building their loyalty so that they don't steal your core ideas and build it themselves.

          Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellinson, Mark Zuckerberg, Koch brothers, Michael Bloomberg, Larry Page, Sergey Brin. Those are the wealthiest people in America, and none of them you'd consider alphas (maybe Larry Ellison a bit, although he's also a pretty old school, street savvy guy how he carries himself).

          Of even the top 50 wealthiest people in America I'd only consider a handful alpha in how they carry themselves. Carl Icahn probably the best example. Only in finance would you see his kind of obvious street savviness but even finance has moved away from alpha mentality towards book smart in order to gain an edge.

          Harvey would be a monster to deal with in business, no doubt. But he's a product of the world he operates in, which is full of professional liars and narcissists. Actors are actors for a reason, they fake behavior to move ahead. Rarely are they this cooperative as there is an insane amount of competition, and very little barrier to entry into the industry of acting. Plus you really don't have to put out a quality product to make money, Hollywood makes shit movies all the time. Harvey hacked the ambition of young, naive, insecure women for his own benefit. In a Hollywood world full of narcissists and generally fucked up people, Harvey just sat on the top. But he's not representative of a normal business person in any industry (other than media, which is just as fucked up and just as much filled with women, just of a different type).

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          If you listen to Harv the Alpha cry when police recorded him at that New York Hotel bar you may reconsider whether his behaviour is mostly alpha

          [–]dthlist 3 points4 points  (3 children)

          I disagree, i think its about denying access of young girls to older more accomplished men.

          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

          And who doesn't want older more accomplished men to have younger women? Older women for sure, but does that explain the huge number of younger women sobbing MeToo about icky sex with creepy guys?

          Pretty sure it's you who can't stomach younger women going for older accomplished guys and are solipsistically projecting rather than using critical tnought

          [–]dthlist 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          That is my point, older women are the ones who are the backbone of the movement. I dont see younger women crying about it, younger meaning under 30.

          Pretty sure it's you who can't stomach younger women going for older accomplished guys and are solipsistically projecting rather than using critical tnought

          I know younger women want acomplished men, thats my whole point. All women want such men and older women seek to deny access to these men to younger women.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Its obvious some women are crying about the fact that they no longer get attention but so what? Women always cry and play victim and seek attention where possible

          Feminism isnt about protecting older women as much as maximamly restricting male sexuality and enabling female hypergamy.

          I give you rollo and if you want you can explore

          unlike our original state of polygamy in that only the most desirable Alpha men will be allowed breeding rights to women – with the social contract being all women are entitled to Alpha Fucks. Enthusiastic consent is a ‘thing’ because on some level of consciousness women loathe the idea of transactional sex with

          [–]NabunagasRevenge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yup, there seeing beta crossing the river the grass is greener bro

          [–]2Dmva100 77 points78 points  (9 children)

          Hmm metoo...TIMES UP on that!

          All women lie about sexual assault unless due process reveals otherwise.

          Women arent strong and independent like they say because they ultimately cannot protect themselves from unwanted sexual advances/assault/rape, so they dump the responsibility of their gender inferiority onto men and the media, and they 'listen.' Women's feminist 'empowerment' narrative doesn't include responsibility or agency and perpetuates their 'victimhood' which ultimately cannot exist in a realm of so-called equality.

          Blame the 'victim'? Nah blame the help.

          Hashtag donothelpwomen

          We cannot have equality in America until we have coed prisons.

          [–]AwakenedSovereign 66 points67 points  (3 children)

          All women lie about sexual assault unless due process reveals otherwise.

          Even for me after 3 years of TRP, that sentence stuck out as a firestarter.

          What's weird? That sentence doesn't say ANYTHING different from "innocent until proven guilty". Nicely put.

          [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 35 points36 points  (0 children)

          innocent until proven guilty, say that in any of the arguments around the accusations and you're labeled a racist, misogynist, rape promoting, pedophile. Because you want proof, you're obviously one of the people who do those things.

          [–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 16 points17 points  (1 child)

          Nope. It does for me as well. It's just sad that we've been put into a situation were we have to think this way out of self defense. Seriously. Unless I know the women in question (friend, family or coworker) at this point I just assume it's a lie.

          [–]Omnibrad 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          And if I know the woman in question I do a lot less assuming and a lot more knowing that she is lying.

          [–]Elodrian 11 points12 points  (3 children)

          Canada has coed prisons. Male criminals can say they identify as women and they get transferred to women jail.

          [–]hammerhearth 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          lol how is it co-ed if you're all the same gender

          [–]Elodrian 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          lol because outside of post-modernist lecture halls, objective reality takes precedence over subjective opinions.

          [–]hammerhearth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          not in canada man. things are so backwards here that you'll go to prison for two years for saying faggot

          [–]0kool74 31 points32 points  (14 children)

          My only question is, once #MeToo turns into a social pariah what will be their next catch phrase or debacle??

          [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 31 points32 points  (13 children)

          Who cares? We aren't going to wife these ho's. Keep a low profile and use a fake name, Sergio, Ahmad, Franco, Raul, pick one and go.

          [–]InterNetting 7 points8 points  (9 children)

          And a good name if you're as pasty white as me?

          [–]2Archterus 29 points30 points  (0 children)

          Tell them you are an albino and have been victimised your whole life.

          [–]F_Dingo 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          Your name is Juan and you're from Spain.

          [–]hbPUA 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Ill Take it

          [–]ShadyMahFuggah 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Try being both latino and more white-looking than most Americans. The little things people can't wrap their heads around are really funny.

          [–]Menchstick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You tell them it's been hard growing up so white in Spain or some other bullshit.

          [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

          Nice work Prof, thanks for keeping your finger on the pulse here. May I add that this is essentially a rich white girl issue. Why didn’t the actresses where black to the Oscars when schoolgirls were kidnapped by boko haram.? Why don’t they draw attention to child brides in Africa or the lack of women’s liberties in Saudi Arabia and the third world? This has nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with spoiled, rich, post wall white actresses seeking to rewrite history and double dip on a cheque they cashed when they were young and attractive.

          [–]red_matrix 43 points44 points  (4 children)

          Does anyone think metoo was a cry for help from women, hookup culture has gone wild and women aren't getting what they signed up for? You can't act like a slut and expect people to treat you like anything but a slut. Women want to act like a man in a man's world but get extra privileges - not gunna happen. Life is hard, and it's not easy being a man and I think women have figured this out and want a way to go back without losing face.

          [–]thetompain 29 points30 points  (0 children)

          Yes, but not an honest cry for help. They would rather throw you in jail before they get introspective about their sexuality.

          [–]jm51 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          You can't act like a slut and expect people to treat you like anything but a slut.

          I once had a fling with a single mother of 26, I was 46 at the time.

          For her, it was like time stopped when she hit puberty, 26 going on 14. She always wore short skirts, cheap ones so they rode up at the back, made worse by her wearing high heels. As much cleavage as possible.

          She dressed like this walking her kids to and from school. There was an unwritten code among the other mothers that there was no dolling up for the school run/walk. They fucking hated her.

          She'd bitch that she had the right to dress how she wanted. I'd say of course you do but they have the right to hate you for how you dress. She never did get it.

          [–]askmrcia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          This reminds me when I used to see those news articles every month back in 2012-2015 of high school girls complaining about being sent home for wearing the wrong kind of dress code.

          I mean it may still be happening, but the time frame I gave was when I used to visit yahoo news.

          It was always suburban girls basically dressing like whores and then complaining on Facebook how they were sent home.

          Used to annoy the fuck out of me.

          [–]NullIsUndefined 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          Mike Pence popularized this chaperone concept. Top keks

          [–]Charrington84 22 points23 points  (0 children)

          Lol.

          So what I’m getting out of this is, men are still at fault for a problem women created.

          Move along boys nothin to see here, just another day.

          [–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

          Men fighting back. I like it. Maybe someone actually read my

          "Men can fight back against the workplace #meetoo trend - withdraw ALL male attention at work" post. Read it here

          Or, go to my post history.

          [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 67 points68 points  (3 children)

          The only reason for this backlash is that feminism has pushed itself into western men's pockets. In other words feminism has gotten between Westerners and their green money God.

          Make their daughters whores? Whatever.

          Destroy culture tradition national identity marriage? Whatevs.

          Butcher important national institutions like The University, Military and media? Meh.

          Fox news is the channel of choice for boomers who shake their fists angrily at the sky, take cialis and masterbate to Blacked.

          [–]Magnus_Konrad 20 points21 points  (2 children)

          For radicals, they'll only be satisfied when there are considerably more women in power than men. Then they'll start eating each other.

          [–]refunkulation 18 points19 points  (1 child)

          Well, if you think about it, the women who do make it to the top have every reason to keep women out of their territory, they aren't the extremists. The extremists are the dummies, the smarter women are more malevolent, like Hillary. Its why Hillary didn't divorce, why get rid of Bill when you can just use him to advance your own self interests? I know Hillary kept Huma around, but most of the big names on her staff were men. Women are far more in tune with self-survival then men are often. Its why they lie and sleep their way to the top in the first place.

          [–]Magnus_Konrad 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          This also explains why HRC's campaign went out of it's way to disparage Jill Stein. There's only enough room for one vagina at the top of Capital Hill.

          [–]Cebby89 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          And remember now they are developing tech that lets you put any face into any video.

          [–]syf3r 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          So what you're saying is... deep down we're all lobsters?

          [–]spurdosparade 35 points36 points  (5 children)

          As a guy that is trying to open his on business in the engineering field, and as a guy that knows some good female professionals in the field, I had no problems in hiring women, as long as they are good in the work they do, but now, after this I will deny any woman a job in my firm, it's not worth the risk.

          [–]dagenought 24 points25 points  (2 children)

          Agree opening my own company and the pool of women went down to family only.

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            [–]dagenought 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Ya my biz is so small scale this won't matter for a long time

            [–]Aaronindhouse 10 points11 points  (1 child)

            Women at my place of employment are much more of a hassle to employ. They require more management to stay productive and on task and they are physically incapable of doing certain tasks in a reasonable amount of time. There are next to none of them in management because they don’t go the extra mile like more of the men do. #metoo is just another reason to hire less of them. They are shooting themselves in the foot.

            [–]AppreciateYa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Dude.

            Sub-40 year old women at my work place are so freakin loud and annoying at my office. They talk so much and loudly and distract themselves and other people. And it's never anything intelligent they talk about, of course.

            It makes me avoid the office. So glad I can work from home sometimes, where its actually fucking quiet and I can actually get work done.

            I mean, granted, they do get some stuff done (otherwise they wouldn't be employed), but they don't give a shit about building skills, and they think work is their social time, rather than the team's time to be productive.

            And there are some cool & smart women at work who don't talk as much, which is awesome.

            [–]bonusfruit[🍰] 20 points21 points  (4 children)

            To that last point, if the sexes are made into opposing camps, men will be fine and women will be devastated. Let's not pretend men and women both equally built professional spaces and need each other to maintain them. Men build everything

            [–]thecorgisleeps 10 points11 points  (3 children)

            Wasnt there a reality show that showed exactly that? Where men and women got put on an island with limited starting supplies and both genders were on opposite sides, and men built and worked together and rationed their supplies while women relaxed peacefully and used their supplies without reason..... until they ran out, then while they spent nights hungry with no shelter, men were relaxing and each pulling their weight to get by.

            I know for sure that happened like 8 years ago

            [–]sourdieselfuel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Yes I believe it was an Australian / New Zealand version of Survivor but battle of the sexes edition.

            [–]sjn2203 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            BUT MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL IN ALL RESPECTS< REEEEEEEE

            [–]AppreciateYa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            simply Look up on Youtube: search query: survivor men vs women

            there are several renditions to choose from, all with the same outcome

            [–]Just_Isaak 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            We need an onslaught of men to become journalists

            [–]1RPLawyer 10 points11 points  (4 children)

            This is so satisfying.

            We talked about #metoo today in one of my college class (in which I discovered my professor was a diehard feminist) and of course, I practiced Law 38, but if I had read this post before my class, I would have had to bring this up.

            [–]donniedarko5555 18 points19 points  (2 children)

            I got a Computer Science degree but had to take some feminism classes for gen ed.

            I can't even begin to express how happy I am to be done with school.

            Leaving high school I used to lean pretty far left, years of university has pushed me so far right its unbelievable

            [–]thecorgisleeps 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            The left is a dream you learn as a kid, the right is a realist you learn from experience. I was the same way before i got pulled into politics

            [–]1RPLawyer 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            Tell me about. I used to be a nice, tolerant, Canadian center-left liberal. But then I went to university and found the MRM, then TRP and finally folks like Jared Taylor.

            [–]grewapair 9 points10 points  (1 child)

            Weinstein owns a company with a lot of investors. There were two ways he could have used his power. The first way was to demand better terms for the company. A lot of starlets and even Uma Thurman needed the guy and he should have been locking them into contracts for ten years, when most would age out of Hollywood. But he'd have to share that with his investors.

            Instead, he used his power for his own personal gratification. The women got away with millions more than they should have, given the power dynamic, because he couldn't keep his pants on.

            The guy owned 23% of his company. Had he sucked another ten million dollars out of Uma, which he could have easily done if he hadn't wanted to fuck her, he'd have had a dozen women who would have gladly gone on trips with him in exchange for spreading that $2.3M in cash around and he'd have gotten a way better result.

            But he was trying to gain all that advantage for himself, instead of sharing it with his investors. Big mistake, Harvey.

            So the PoundMeToo movement is good for everyone. Screw the women you work with financially. Then use the money to get other less sensitive women. Way safer and a better result: He got nothing out of Uma. All so he could use his power for himself and not his investors.

            [–]anonymau5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Good on Ryan secrest for fighting back

            [–]Arabian_Wolf 2 points3 points  (6 children)

            The real question is:

            Who REALLY benefits from this feminism vs redpill/manosphere etc?

            EDIT: iPhone grammar.

            [–]says_harsh_things 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            Anyone trying to ride the outrage wave to their 15 minutes of fame and the people that make money facilitating it (news media).

            [–]Arabian_Wolf 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            money

            Correct answer.

            Now who really owns and have a say in the news media?

            [–]says_harsh_things 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            The people that pay the bills - advertisers. They want anything that goes 'rabble rabble rabble' and keeps eyeballs on the screen, whether glued intently or rolling in disbelief.

            [–]Robx9001 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Vindictive post wallers in the short term.

            [–]TheDeadlyZebra 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            B-but isn't the 'presumption of guilt' a fascist instrument? Honestly, "me too" is like a Jihad on men in politics and any woman can issue a "fatwa" without evidence.

            [–]MaliciousMack 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Many of us knew this was coming. So just a thought bubble: What changes would everyone here want from Status Quo?

            [–]HandsomeCub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            That when women lead they might start thinking about how they can make men's lives better. It almost seems unfashionable to think about men.

            [–]AllahHatesFags 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            The backlash will be quiet at first, with companies looking at their applicants' social media history (as they do already) and refusing to hire women who have used the metoo hashtag or have other feminist bullshit in their posting history because HR departments will see them as a liability. So only non-feminist women will be able to get jobs and the feminazis will mostly be perpetually unemployed and have zero recourse. Eventually being a feminist will be the equivalent of having face tattoos in terms of being thought of as an unemployable loser.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Society is now completely ordered around women. Women's needs, women's wants, and women's worldview now dominate the public sphere.

            If a man is falsely accused of rape, this is bad because it might make it harder for women to be believed or to be alone with men at work.

            If there are not enough women in tech, all of the government's power and all society's attention should be used to rectify this wrong. If there are too many men dying from being roofers, no one cares. If there are less men now going to college, no one cares. If the prison population is 20-1 male to female, no one cares.

            If some women are abused by their partners, we must do the following: cops must automatically believe her when they show up and we must use our tax dollars to construct special centers for abused women (because for some reason they can't go to the hospital to be treated).

            If a couple gets divorced, the ultimate priority is that the women and children are taken care of. The man is not a person. He is a resource to be utilized.

            80% of advertising is directed at women because women consume 80% of society's resources.

            Every college, corporation, and government has agencies devoted to helping women.

            The military's primary purpose is no longer to defend the nation. It is to ensure that women in the military are not raped, and to ensure that they have the same career opportunities as men, despite being held to a lower physical standard. Ditto for fire departments and police departments. Ditto for hiring women at construction sites to hold signs while the men move heavy shit around.

            This list is like 10% complete. I could go on and on.

            [–]Starfuckingman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            This felt so fucking good to read, I came.

            [–]throwawaypsycho80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            This is something anyone with half a brain can see...

            Third wave feminists keep shooting themselves in the foot.

            Hell previous generation feminists are starting to think feminism has just gone way too far.

            [–]Zchavago 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Omg! Think about the women! It’s all about then.

            [–]radixaf 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            It’ll be a good thing in the long run. Sure there’s a massive over correction now, but other instances for witch hunts in our history have shown that it will be temporary. The most recent time of this happening before that I can remember is post 9/11. Where everyone was so concerned about terrorism that everyday you would check the terror risk level like the weather. Now we usually go weeks without worrying about terror attacks.

            I think this is part of the overall trend in which men are losing power in society. Where 20 years ago men had 85% of power, we now have maybe 60% of that power.

            [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Yes they are. But don't forget what is important. How is all this going to affect THE WOMEN!

            This is good thinking though. We can all be outraged that "noone cares until women are affected", but if we accept this as truth then the logical cause of action is clear: state how women are impacted by their actions.

            This is what feminists do: "men are better off under feminism!". We need to do exactly the same thing: "women are worse off under feminism".

            [–]zyqkvx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Feminism isn't about women. It's a public tool available for every woman to help themselves. The fatties don't care what the grid girls want. They want fattie(s) to comfortable. Herself.

            [–]Riace 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            be wary of unintended consequences. Turning men and women into hostile opposing camps is not going to be good for either sex.

            at least they are finally, slowly waking up.

            You gotta give them time. Imagine you are a therapist and the MSM is your patient who has no idea why they are so messed up. You can't just give the truth all at once. You gotta be very patient and slowly introduce them to it because it will blow their heavily-conditioned mind.

            Nice write-up BTW.

            [–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            The epic rationalization that takes place is flabbergasting.

            This kind of thinking is catching on in aggressively P.C. Silicon Valley, where men are taking to message boards like Reddit to express interest in sex segregation — sometimes labeled “Men Going Their Own Way,” or the “Man-o-Sphere.”

            First, I do not encourage MGTOW nor do I practice it, but I certainly understand the notion of it. That being said, look at the fine print. It is not so much about men in general dropping out, who cares, it is about the Silicon Valley men. You know the 6-, 7-, figure guys who used to put pussy on a pedestal are tired of being unfairly milked.

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