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Red Pill Theory"I'd love to see her get plowed by a BBC" (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by PhantomNishobrah

Have you ever seen a picture of a hot chick, only to look down in the comments and see: "Man I'd love to see her get plowed by a BBC" (or some similar variant). Why does that happen? How does someone get to that point?

The answer is of course is excessive masturbation and pornography. What's happening is that someone has shunned real sexual experience for a virtual sexual experience. Instead of participating, they observe another man fuck the woman they're interested in. This plays tricks on your brain.

The porn star essentially becomes an avatar for the viewer, through which they can vicariously release their sexual energy. If it gets bad enough and habitual enough, masturbation to porn may be the only sexual outlet for that person.

Naturally, "I want to fuck her" transforms into "I want to watch someone fuck her" because watching someone else fuck is the only way these people know how to experience sexual gratification. You have essentially trained your brain to equate sex with "watching another dude plow the chick I want to plow".

I'm not a crazy no-fapper or anything like that, but the mind is a fickle thing, and porn is a dangerous rabbit hole. Be careful out there.


[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 166 points167 points  (0 children)

What? The ENTIRE British Broadcasting Corporation?

[–]BobbyPeru 556 points557 points  (46 children)

This actually makes sense that cucks can be born this way

[–]FlyePUA 56 points57 points  (3 children)

I work for a porn site- the majority of men who want to watch a girl get fucked by a BBC also want to "lick the cum up" and eventually want to be the ones fucked by the BBC as well. This is definitely a cuck fetish, if not a way to say "I'm actually gay and want a BBC for me too"

It is super disturbing :(

[–]The_Phoenecian 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Why do you work for a porn site? It sounds like you think it carries a degree of amorality.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Could also be a fucked up way to devalue a HB if you beta or have low SMV / self esteem

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[–]Self_Descr_Huguenot 15 points16 points  (1 child)

What a sad, sick society we live in. What you’re saying makes me think of all the #metoo bs. So what if Weinstein, for example, propositioned these women (they’re all vestal virgins in Hollywood right?)? What do men seek power and fame for if not to have dominion over others and material things? Among these material things being women and sex.

You’re a stupid empty headed bimbo with nothing to offer but her body, you’re easily replaceable, I can walk out into the streets of L.A. and find 100 more like you, how else do you think you’re gonna get ahead but by satisfying the whims of the power-brokers like Weinstein? Someone like him saying I’ll give you x if you sleep with me, is different from sexual assault or rape, you can say no you just chose not too because you wouldn’t get a part in a movie.

And not to go off on a tangent but with Roy Moore losing due to ultimately unprovable allegations, we can expect that nuke to be deployed in many more elections and subsequently become even more common in general society; I think yesterday was really a watershed moment for that reason. An election for an office at the national level was decided based on accusations, never mind that one of the women walked back her whole year book evidence and confessed she wrote part of the note on which the case pretty much hinged- that was the totality of the evidence besides the testimony of the women themselves.

Tl;dr What all that has to do with what you’re saying is, it’s gonna get so much worse. Men won’t be able to leave the house and catch a passing glimpse of a woman without being hit by an accusation lol. Porn will be the only safe outlet for expressing sexuality that many men will have, and it’ll lead to a lot more of what OP is saying.

Decline of the West or whatever.

[–]422456 262 points263 points  (117 children)

Porn is the single most destructive thing that has happened to masculinity in the last 10-20 years. It has made modern day men into a bunch of estrogenic pussys with no sense of discipline or self worth.

So many, many, bad behaviours are growing without people evening realising what they are doing. Binge eating, netflix, staying inside all day, the list goes on. This nasty chemical called dopamine is being exploited by every marketing department and business in the world.

Unfortunately, it is only getting worse. The millennial generation have literally grown up with porn hub and access to it all through there teenage years. This is why all these fetishes and open relationships are skyrocketing. Women are starting to pay attention, and will soon start to think they are 'missing out'

Cuckholding will be super mainstream in the future (5-10 years) Open relationships will be the norm, because guys have been porn soaked and trained to think its a great thing their woman will be moaning and horny for someone else. I wouldn't be surprised in the future if women will have 3-5 people watching her in person get pumped by chad, because porn.

Porn has even infiltrated male friendships. These days even guy friends will cock sham you about not being able to please a woman like chad does. The gap from AF/BB keeps getting wider - and abundance mentality has become increasingly scarce.

Worst of all - cuckholding has increased the 'outsource' mentality through women. The ultimate goal is to have an army of men at your disposal for different things. Guys who bring them food, guy friends, guys who give them massages, guys who worship them, guys who give them constant attention, etc, now more than ever you are being placed into a box of what you can do for a woman.

BBC fetishes stems from guys who have no self esteem and have dick size insecurity to the max. I have heard of cucked guys literally choosing chads and doing all the work in setting these things up, even providing food and paying for their hotels.

Stay frosty gents and enjoy the decline.

[–]Psychocist 85 points86 points  (81 children)

Cuckholding will be super mainstream in the future (5-10 years) Open relationships will be the norm, because guys have been porn soaked and trained to think its a great thing their woman will be moaning and horny for someone else. I wouldn't be surprised in the future if women will have 3-5 people watching her in person get pumped by chad, because porn.

Don't we advocate lifetime plating here? How exactly are we contributing to anti-open relationships by perpetual plating? You have open relationships with all your plates - they are fucking other guys and you are fucking other girls.

[–]reckful994 66 points67 points  (20 children)

There should be no "we" here, and even if there is, you should be thinking for yourself.

This sub outlines sexual dynamics- it is not supposed to be prescriptive. Once it becomes prescriptive, this place becomes nothing more than an ideological echo chamber.

I prefer monogamous relationships. "Well what if she cheats?" Dump her and move on.

[–]Psychocist 17 points18 points  (12 children)

this place becomes nothing more than an ideological echo chamber.

That's exactly what is has become. One of the reasons a lot of the original crowd moved on since it became semi-mainstream in the manosphere.

I prefer monogamous relationships. "Well what if she cheats?" Dump her and move on.

Ya know, I prefer monogamous relationships, too.. maybe with a little something on the side every now and then. I guess one of my biggest problems is because I've heard "it's just your turn" so many times, I just sit around in a relationship waiting for her to leave. I'm not in one now, but obviously is something I'll need to mentally resolve before I get back into one.

[–]MoronicBobbin[🍰] 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I just sit around in a relationship waiting for her to leave

Is that a bad thing though? Attachment being the root of all suffering and all that. You've just come to terms with the fact 9 times out of 10 they will leave for x reason. Women aren't monogamous in the long term. Few studies out there pointing to 4-6 years, long enough to raise a child, before they start upping sticks.

[–]Psychocist 29 points30 points  (6 children)

No, it's certainly not a bad thing -- it's an opportunity to overcome that attachment. But I don't think I've fully come to terms with it. I'm still saddened by it and I still lament the loss of what relationships could be if women weren't so fickle.

[–]KirklandCamber 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Why is this down voted? There's nothing wrong with a person accepting reality yet wishing it wasn't so.

[–]Psychocist 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Lot of sense here is downvoted. The place is filled with immature, chest-beating children.

[–]BokehClasses 9 points10 points  (1 child)

You probably won't ever come to terms with it. I have the same problem.

What a fucking sad time to be alive. So many good things things available to us through technological advancement, but the one core thing that men desire (a wife and kids) is pretty much impossible.

[–]reckful994 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If she leaves, its her loss.

My threshold as to when I leave is when she stops meeting my needs.

There's no reason to wait.

[–]loadacode 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Side note. Where do the old folks move to?

[–]Psychocist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Blogs? Who knows. I'm not part of that crowd (yet). Getting there, but I'm still gaining some minimal benefit from reading posts here.

[–]11-Eleven-11 11 points12 points  (8 children)

I don't know about anyone else who frequents this sub but the idea of plating disgusts me. Abundance mentality is an awesome concept that can be achieved without plating. The whole point of trp in mind is to become a high value men. IMO every guy here is higher value or will be higher value than 90% of men. We're allowed to have standards and I'm not going to fuck around with women that are seeing 3 other guys at the same time as me. And as someone who is disgusted by women who sleeps around, as many guys are, I'm not going to do the same because that would make me a hypocrite.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRuleZeroDAD 9 points10 points  (2 children)

That is a completely valid outlook, so long as you don't find it superior to those who do plate.

TRP is a praxeology of tools, knowledge, and tactics. A man can use these resources in any fashion acceptable to him. Abundance in practice is a demonstration of the concept, but so is "catch and release."

A moral person can't be "good" if he has no choice to act otherwise. If you are convinced that you have options outside of who you may be fucking at the time, but you choose not to act, then by all means, proceed. If you judge other men who act upon their abundance and are not "one woman men" you are tempting the BanHammerTM.

[–]AnAbsoluteSith 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Devil's advocate: Plating gives you an opportunity to really test your "RP" strength and understanding.

Like you I wasn't keen on plating. Especially if it meant sharing your plates with other men willingly​. Personally, in my books that's just playing puff puff pass with a woman. So what did I do? I specifically targeted the cute quiet shy ones who I knew had no big social life and lower chances of fucking around. The girls who had standards but "wanted a bit of fun". The girls who were busy pursuing education and just wanted that delivery dick after a night of studying. My max was 4 in rotation. Each one of them knew there were others. My main knew exactly who the others were.

In order to achieve that, I had to implement everything I learned here and from personal experiences and really fine tune my game. I thought I knew abundance previously, but you don't know true abundance until the day plate #2 is in a pissy mood; you call up plate #3 who's down but busy; then finally plate #4 comes through.

Lessons learned:

  • True Abundance

  • How to really deal with women

  • That God forbid my current serious LTR was to fall apart, I know for a fact that I will be okay in the end, because I have demonstrated 100% ability to attract and maintain a relationship with a woman

I should really explain this better in a full post

[–]witch_pimp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Please post! I like your writing style.

[–]AnAbsoluteSith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Definitely will later this month when I'm done exams.

[–]Solon64 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Men and women are different. Evolutionarily speaking, men want to impregnate as many women as possible. Women want one man who can provide the whole package.

It's, evolutionarily speaking of course, ok for men to do the plate thing. It's less ok for women to do so, as this lowers the chance that they find this male unicorn and manage to keep him.

The ideal for both genders is a man who sleeps with many women: open on his end, and the women only sleep with him: closed on her end. Unfortunately, life is rarely ideal.

[–]Senor_Martillo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Which of course, leaves a majority of males as incels. Cuz math.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This. Women can do the plate thing but they will pay with the changes of a chads attention. High value men who inevitably respect themselves, have options etc will never settle for an easy ho and men like this have the experience to sniff them out.

Really when you see a woman qq on social media about no guy giving her a shot after a couple dates you pretty much know what's up. Everyone knows it.

Women like this are the female equalivent of the beta male who keeps getting friendzoned. Except she's getting fuck zoned. It amazes me how modern liberal millennial esque people seem to not understand this, male and female. It's ludicrous.

[–]Psychocist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The ideal for both genders is a man who sleeps with many women: open on his end, and the women only sleep with him: closed on her end. Unfortunately, life is rarely ideal.

Yup. I think one of the only ways to increase the chance of this ideal is to have a very high SMV relatively to your spouse. That's my plan, anyway, because there is no way in hell I'll ever allow a woman/person to have sole-control over my source of intimacy.

[–]Brokenthrowaway247 0 points1 point  (17 children)

I think he mispoke. It will only be open on the females end, not open in the sense that they can both do whatever they want

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 23 points24 points  (15 children)

Oh yah. Just wait til the deranged feminist narrative spinners start trying to sell to the mainstream the idea that a guy is "selfish" if he won't let his wife go and fuck whoever she wants. "It's my body. I can do what I want. Keeping me all to himself is selfish".

I can feel this type of shit coming right around the corner.

[–]Senor_Martillo 16 points17 points  (13 children)

It's already happening. Huffpost and Vice and some other bullshit peddlers are writing articles about how "empowering" it is for women to have affairs.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 23 points24 points  (11 children)

Dude shit like this seriously makes me almost believe in religion. This is the type of biblical level societal delusion and corruption of the women that prophecies and shit talk about. It's overwhelmingly repulsive to me at the very least, especially cuz it's all done with this sanctimonious self righteousness. Goddam. Disgust has become the existential flavor of my frame of mind lately.

[–]Ro1t 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I think there is a lot to be said for religious ideals. I never used to think this but if you consider the ideas and culture contained within as genes, as in if these ideas are passed on they are selected for because they make society more stable or what have you, it begins to make a lot of sense. Certain people, like feminists, are equating systems that they imagine in their head with systems that have evolved over millennia they mistakenly assume that they were 'put in place by the patriarchy' to be stable, which is a big mistake and deeply short sighted.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 4 points5 points  (1 child)

100% agree. Have you not read about memes? Not the internet image jokes, but this idea you're laying out analogizing ideas and idea-sets to genes has been written about pretty extensively as memes and meme-plexes (a religion would be a meme-plex, a whole complex series of interlocking memes).

[–]Ro1t 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm familiar with it yeah, I've read the selfish gene and I understand memetics is a field of study in and of itself, I've just never gone deep into it.

[–]thetompain 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I think you will enjoy this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg3NR76XpQ

Talks a lot about why religion was useful for society, and how ingrained it is in our being. I'm not religious but after listening to Peterson talk about this stuff I appreciate it more.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Bro i been on dat der train since the beginning

[–]Martel_732_Tours 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If you read the Old Testament there's loads of examples spanning the centuries that the books encompass (both metaphorical and literal) of numerous societies that collapsed due to degeneration and immorality. Sodom and Gomorrah being one famous example, but also the fall of the Canaanites, the exile of the Israelites to Babylon, the list goes on. Each time that a society fell, similar patterns that we are witnessing in our own society were observed. One doesn't have to be religious to appreciate the truth to this.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's like the main theme of the OT is those cycles.

[–]SCV70656 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you want to see how it plays out, look into the mouse utopia experiment. It will explain all the social issues today.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I've heard of that. It can definitely shed some light on our present situation but I think we have a more multi faceted situation going on at present that only sorta correlates to physically cramped mice.

[–]askmrcia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That type of attitude is already here. I've seen this plastered all over the internet and even irl.

On the relationship sub the other day (I know, I know) a guy was asking for advice on his wife going on vacation for two months alone overseas.

Majority of the comments on there was supporting the wife saying she is due for a break every now and then. She needs her time to herself.

To me, that is the same behavior as someone asking for a break.

But no, it doesn't stop there. How many times do women put guys in awkward positions basically telling them to accept them going over guy friend's houses and spending the night.

Guys having issues with that are basically labeled as insecured and controlling.

This is where things are going now

[–]Psychocist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I suppose I can see that reality for the average beta. Thankfully, that isn't the reality for a RP-man. After all, women would rather share a high quality guy than possess a low quality beta. More guys need to wise up to this and insist on polygamy from the outset. If she doesn't agree, work on your SMV.

[–]reckful994 15 points16 points  (1 child)

BBC fetishes stems from guys who have no self esteem and have dick size insecurity to the max.

The only thing I'd add is that this also stems from some type of inferiority complex to black men. Otherwise there wouldn't be two Bs in "BBC"

[–]Arabian_Wolf 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I’d like to see a full post of this by you.

[–]chocolatex 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I remember thinking that the average 14/15 year old boy has seen more naked women and more sex than kings and emperors back in the day. They had to earn that shit. Now with 2 keystrokes they can be 'satisfied' like kings. No wonder most men don't even try anymore.

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    [–]422456 4 points5 points  (5 children)

    My context for enjoy the decline means simply observe and internalise what is happening and adjust accordingly - not to cry about it

    [–]1GroundhogLiberator 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    I read it in a sarcastic tone. Even if I become a top 1% man someday, I'll never enjoy watching the U.S. devolving further and further into degeneracy and knowing there's nothing I can do that will actually help stem the tide.

    [–]excludedprinciple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Just remember that the great societies of the future will grow from the ashes.

    One day we figured out, to our great surprise, that forest fires were beneficial to the forest ecosystem. But when you think about it for a while, it's obvious that there always have to be cycles of creation and destruction.

    [–]MoronicBobbin[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Also I take enjoy the decline to remind me to only worry about things in my circle of control vs the 99% of stuff I have no power over. Why I no longer read any news.

    [–]Psychocist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Really? That's not the attitude I see at all when this is perpetuated around this place.. it's more "we can't stop the decline, so you might as well enjoy it".

    [–]ThePwnter 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Agree! It's the same defeated mindset as an Alpha male proudly proclaiming that they will never have kids. Every beta male then wins against you, because at that point your whole purpose and genetic lineage is lost, and you become pointless to the human race and the continuation of your Alpha dominance. In the animal kingdom, alpha males keep a harem and have plenty of offspring, and it is the betas that don't always get to reproduce. Modern society however has flipped that concept on its ear, and the general TRP dogma exacerbates the issue in this case.

    [–]livinlavidal0ca 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    You’re supposed to have the kids and have the betas raise them for you. That’s the true cuckholding found in nature

    [–]ThePwnter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Except in nature the opposite is actually true. The beta males sneak in and mate when the alpha is away/distracted, and the alpha winds up raising the beta's offspring as one of his. This why animals keep harems, it's to increase their chances of successful mating, regardless of outside interlopers.

    [–]AlphaGrad 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I just can't. Just can't sit and watch. Won't.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    The gap from AF/BB keeps getting wider

    this. on the bright side, if you're on the AF side of the chasm, you're drowning in pussy.

    [–]Zerophobe 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    I mean if you want to blame anything msm it should be movies.

    Which has created this "ideal man" image which automatically excludes most of men from the dating pool.

    Ironic, its this sub which is addicted to "join gym bro"...

    Prostitutes have existed since civilization existed.

    Picking up rocks for no reason just to fit to an image? That's new.

    [–]KirklandCamber 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    You don't understand the significance because you don't go to the gym. Go to the gym and then talk. Aesthetic reasons is only 25% of it.

    [–]Art3mis2093 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    have you read brave new world?

    [–]aesu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Not sure if this is a parody account, or not.

    [–]TheWhiskeyTickler 68 points69 points  (19 children)

    It's always self flagellating white people. As a white guy, it upsets me that we as a group are losing our masculinity. Whites are always the emo kids, the underconfident losers, the nerdy betas. Not blaming other peoples or races, just an observation.

    I remember white guys not wanting to try out for the football team in high school because "some big black guy will be better than me". TRP to me goes above and beyond getting girls because it helps reassert your confidence and self reliance. So many people are missing that in our society. It manifests itself like this because I guarantee if you found the guys watching this stuff, they would be timid beta white guys too afraid to make a splash in other areas of their lives.

    Again, I don't blame blacks or some imaginary secret cabal of jews or something. The blame for this rests squarely on white folks. I totally understand the anger of asians and indian guys who feel pigeon holed into the nice guy beta role. The problem is when people realize this they lash outwards at society or blame other races (looking at you nazis) instead of inwards in observation of their shortcomings. Self reflection drives self improvement.

    In the end it doesn't matter what color skin you have, because you determine the outcome of your life. Always be improving yourself, it's the only thing you've got in the end, and always, enjoy the decline boys.

    [–]Your_Coke_Dealer 27 points28 points  (7 children)

    This sort of shit happened to Black people in a different way years before. Women embraced hypergamy, so many men got redpilled and adopted the "hoes ain't loyal" mentality. The rest, by and large, didn't reproduce, as natural selection entails. Listen to hip hop and hear the message of the redpilled. The reason the Black community is at a systemic disadvantage is the decline started earlier for them. Broken families and 'deadbeat' fathers are the fault of this.

    It's hitting white people now, and it looks different but it's not. Some will refuse to give a fuck and will be naturally redpilled. They'll get mocked as country bumpkins and [insert Trump-related insult here], just like redpilled Black men were called deadbeats, but the strong guys who hold frame and don't give a fuck survive. The cucks, the 'gentlemen', will not reproduce.

    Society is cyclical. We act like race and culture make so much difference, but they don't in the end. Humanity needs to reset itself of weak genes, within all races, so the whole cycle of "weak men >> hard times >> strong men >> good times >> weak men" keeps going with only a difference in the exact events occurring and a slight staggering between cultures.

    Enjoy the decline.

    [–]leonxtravis 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    What about techonology?

    Unless you're implying there will be some sort of dark age again, isn't tech supposed to offset this second "fall of Rome" through mass consumerism (VR, porn, netflix, etc.); thus leaving everyone too distracted to go into another world war regardless of whether or not "men are unhappy"?

    [–]Your_Coke_Dealer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    To your Rome analogy, more technologically advanced circuses to go with your bread are still circuses. Distractions only placate people for so long.

    [–]Steve_Chiv 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Not everyone is too distracted though. Islam is enormous in numbers and it's coming

    [–]JFMX1996 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    The conflict will most likely still happen. Those in power aren't likely to be that addicted to be distracted with such shit.

    What is worrisome is a conflict coming up and our men are too weak to stand and fight, and we have a military of weak men, feminists, and lowered standards in general.

    [–]leonxtravis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I definitely noticed the emasculation of men.

    [–]TangoZulu 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    I believe it's a result of the systematic breakdown of positive male sexuality combined with the vilification of the "CIS white male" for all of societies ills. Add to that the fact that white (American?) males have no strong culture and male role models to look up to, and you have an entire generation of confused, brainwashed men.

    [–]Vanwaq 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    as a brown man I find this view so strange. Asians are continuously shown as beta males in all media from tv to movies. Raj from big bang after 9 seasons is the only person to be single and shown with beta gay tendencies. Tinder stats for Asians speak for themselves. White male a dominating on all dating websites and blacks are second. Asians might as well not exist on these platforms.

    [–]TheWhiskeyTickler 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I suppose it's a "grass is always greener" thing. I will admit that white guys probably do better on Tinder, but I think that masculinity can still suffer. White guys are always sterotyped as the mild mannered guy who are averse to conflict. Asians experience this to a much greater extent. It's hard to speak out and fight it without being labeled bitter or racist. I suppose the best way to combat it, is to be the change you want to see in the world. (quoting an asian pacifist, I know). However, if more guys are masculine examples, people will start to see the disconnect between what they see around them and what hollywood/society projects.

    [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    What you say sounds nice on the surface. But it ignores the reality that genetics drive behavior and potential as well as culture and society. The latter two are engineered systems. But it seems like you are claiming those systems don't exist. For example to stay on topic--feminism. An engineered system built to destroy masculinity and society to create a power vacuum that the state can then fulfill. There are specific people that spread this ideology and they know what they are doing. But you are not even aware that you are a pawn in this game. This is why white people as a whole end up cucked, weak, and emasculated.

    [–]SpottyDam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    White women as well as non white men are absolutely complicit in the emasculation and humiliation of white men and they deserve to be called out for it.

    [–]BlackNaziSJWFeminist 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    i'm 15, and I made the choice to live porn free about a month ago. I feel better than ever.

    [–]tb87670 250 points251 points  (51 children)

    I never got that, even as a moderate porn addict while I was bluepill. There are guys who love watching their wives get banged by strangers. A married woman proposed such a deal to me before and it was just too weird for me to even consider because she kept saying her husband had to watch, I didn't need a nut that bad. Has to be a mental illness for a man to enjoy that, not natural. Porn probably doesn't help but it's not the cause.

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      [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 40 points41 points  (14 children)

      I don't think it's entirely demand from the viewers. I think there's genuinely a political agenda pushed by the porn industry these days to overemphasize certain things.

      For example I noticed a very high amount of incest themed porn with mainstream stars, and I cannot imagine that the demand for incest is as high as how common the theme is.

      [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 46 points47 points  (4 children)

      Yup. They are pushing these bizzare fetishes hard.

      It started with MILF, IR, Cuck, incest, tranny/sissy.

      Think it's best to avoid.

      Don't think the elite only use news and Hollywood to brainwash. They use every medium at their disposal.

      [–]memphisjohn 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      Don't think the elite only use news and Hollywood to brainwash. They use every medium at their disposal.

      here buddy have an upvote for truth

      [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      Yeah I would not be surprised at all at this point if it was an orchestrated attempt at subversion. And my guess about the ideology behind it would be, pardon the cliche, but neomarxist types who want to bring down bourgeois society and replace it with some ideal they have cooked up.

      [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Yup. there is no way it is demand driven.

      It is pushed on the populace.

      [–]PremixedBox 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      All porn companies are owned by one giant company, follow the money trail/paper trail

      [–]CosmicSpiral 21 points22 points  (7 children)

      I cannot imagine that the demand for incest is as high as how common the theme is.

      The appeal of porn isn't so much about the visceral enjoyment than the assemblage of signs that compose any specific "genre" (circularly, this is why porn is so easily segmented into genres). People aren't so much into genres as the subtext and meaning behind them. If you consider how emasculated and confused modern men are by our culture, it makes more sense. Society demands they live up to a narrow, feckless set of norms while it condemns them for anything else.

      Why is there so much interracial black-on-white porn? Because blackness is one of the last stereotypical paragons of masculinity left, and in an era that condemns and obfuscates masculinity blackness stands as a readily recognizable fetish. This is the same reason white teenagers latch onto black culture and aspire to be like rappers.

      Why is cuckoldry so widespread? Because men don't see themselves as attractive enough to deserve the type of sex they want; this type of narcissistic rationale is essentially how women feel when they go cold in bed. So if their wives are hot enough for other, more manly men to lust after, that proves via association that the husbands are valuable. And since the wife elects to stay with him rather than leave for those men, their connection is something stronger and purer than mere salaciousness. Or so the logic goes.

      Which are so many people into incest? Because in a world that demonizes interpersonal interaction and severely punishes those who aren't socially savvy, the desire for sexual interest and novelty will be conflated with the comfort and familiarity of familial bonds. The companies are still aware that these customers don't want real incest; notice how the entire genre is dominated by half-sisters, half-brothers, and mothers-in-law. Just enough taboo to make it exciting, but not close enough to activate visceral disgust.

      If you want a primer on this specific phenomenon, look how Japan's porn industry evolved as its social integrity broke down. The exact same shit occurred with regard to incest and more deviant strains.

      [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (6 children)

      Yeah that's a good analysis. Personally tho porn for me was simply about the visceral horniness of wanting to fuck nubile young women, and never about the plot or theme or symbology. If I found a pornstar I thought was hot, I would just look up all her scenes regardless of the theme. That was all just background noise and annoyance. I'm mostly over porn now tho fortunately.

      [–]CosmicSpiral 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      never about the plot or theme or symbology

      I'm talking about semiotics, not storytelling. It's also subconscious which is why it works so well.

      [–]Aconite_Eagle 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      And before this they pushed the transgender agenda hard before it became a "thing" when that Bruce Jenner guy went strange.

      [–]lolypuppy 25 points26 points  (12 children)

      Pretty interesting, but I'd like to add that (as OP suggested) porn could motivate some individuals.

      By that I mean not everyone is 100% or 0% "cuck". So, for the ones who might have a tendency to the side of cuckoldry, porn could be an influence.

      [–]1GroundhogLiberator 22 points23 points  (6 children)

      Porn is absolutely impacting this. If you watch people fuck on a screen daily for ten years, is it really that big a leap to wanting to see it play out live?

      [–]TFWnoLTR 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      I think this really comes down to the individual's personality.

      I am, or was, a heavy porn user but I can't stand strip clubs and sex shows. I thought I'd be into it because of the porn habit so I tried it out and it's just not the same IRL.

      Same thing when my wife went through my history on my phone and decided to try the kind of stuff I had watched, I just wasn't that in to it and I don't watch much porn that's like the sex I enjoy having IRL.

      Different strokes for different folks. This isn't something that can be generalized.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 33 points34 points  (4 children)

      If you kill a million people in a video game over years of playing, is it really a big leap wanting to see it play out live?

      That is the tired and widely disproven brain fart pushed by the likes of Tipper Gore and the "won't somebody think of the children" totalitarian cunts who wish to ban everything they don't like.

      While there are pathetic weak fucks who can get addicted to anything, the vast majority won't, and are in no danger of making something reality. If you're one of those pathetic fucks, you need to understand most are not like you. If you're like those album labeling cunts, then fuck you.

      [–]EPArt 4 points5 points  (4 children)

      Its true I got influenced when I watched quite a bit but the other way around. Just made me want to cuck other guys or what I would rather cuck potential future gf's with their sisters,friends,mothers without them seeing jap style. Havent done it yet but its on the to-do list for when I go to japan.

      [–]lolypuppy 21 points22 points  (3 children)

      I am more to the side of "anti-cuckoldry".

      Every time I read "wife/girlfriend/whatever getting fucked by another man", it is a huge turn off. It doesn't matter if it is acting or an amateur video in which everyone agreed, it just sounds wrong to me. When a person (man or woman) has a partner, they should only to have sex with their partner.

      I am a big fan of private property, just so you know.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 21 points22 points  (2 children)

      You are thirsty, not getting laid and thinking you own the bitch if you ever do get laid is why it turns you off. You know the bitch is going to cheat on you, but you think you'll find that unicorn that won't. Dude, she isn't yours, it's only your turn.

      I've fucked enough wives and girlfriends to know that any bitch will cheat given opportunity and plausible deniability. These bitches like me because they know I'm not going to keep them, it's nothing more than fucking.

      I know guys who like to watch their wife get fucked, it's their thing man. Not mine. I haven't cared in years if a girl I'm fucking is fucking other dudes, I get mine and she's not the only one I'm fucking. Like I said, I don't own her, she doesn't belong to me, bitches can leave any time they want, and if a sorry sap like you married one to try and keep her, she gets half your sit at least as a reward for your stupidity.

      This is reality, this is how people are, and while you wait for her to fuck you, she is out fucking someone like me then coming home and not giving you any.

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        [–]TunedtoPerfection 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Here is something people like you don't understand. When you get to a point where women know they can cheat with you, they usually don't tell you until after you've fucked. When you give off the sexual energy and DGAF attitude that women looking to cheat look for, they go all in and don't bring up anything that would even hint at being attached until after your in bed.

        Hell sometimes they don't even tell you until years later, after they tell their SO. I still remember a time I was up visiting a friend at SLO, go to a Halloween party, pick up a chick and fuck her senseless. Next morning she has to go on her way, nothing out of the ordinary, we fuck again enjoy some coffee in bed and she heads out with a kiss and a slap on the ass.

        Go to a different Halloween party the next night, I see the girl that like 25 minutes into the party. We duck into a bathroom make out for like 5 minutes and she springs this on me.

        "Okay that's the last time, my boyfriend is showing up to this party."

        Yup fucked her, twice, half the party sees us smash the bathroom door shut and start going at it and she has a boyfriend on the way. No one said a word and she just kept trying to tease me all night as I was hitting on her friends.

        It's not always a moral decision to cheat with women, just remember that it's not your job to decipher if SHE is cheating, if she wants to cheat she will might as strike while the iron is hot my friend.

        [–]we_are_compromised 11 points12 points  (3 children)

        Blaming everything on external things is a cucked way of being.

        There is not better way to explain this. I think it's a shame that the term 'cuck' in it's idiomatic usage has been so successfully affiliated with the alt-right by the media. Most people seem to think that it's just a catch all insult by people who are insecure about their girl's faithfulness, when in reality it's a word that fills a real linguistic void in this language. It's as plastic as the word 'fuck'. I don't know how else you could express this to a person.

        [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Actually "cuck" quite apt. Considering it describes a person who acts against their own interests for someone else's benefit and they derive some perverted enjoyment from being destroyed physically, mentally, and spiritually.

        [–]ThePwnter 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        You're post is pure awesome, although it started in the right and was used to describe the beta left, but I do wish more people could key into your well thought insight.

        [–]MrCarepig 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        If you read the book sex at dawn it touches on this subject. It has something to do with sperm competition.

        [–]colovick 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        I've been a bull before. It's about 50/50 on mentally ill doormats and closeted gay men who love the woman they're married to but neither get the satisfaction from sex with each other, so they bring a guy in to humiliate him, having him get slapped in the face by your balls among other things. I enjoyed it, the girls were hot, the guys I kinda feel bad for, but mostly just enjoyed the reactions from the girls who were really into someone abusing their husband or boyfriend

        [–]HeinousFu_kery 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        I've been sort of in this situation a couple of times - women fucking me and then telling the husbands about it (they weren't in the room). Weird, but they were seriously hot for it so I just put it down to the guys either being totally whipped or, as you said, closeted gay guys. Either way, kinda sad - you should just let your freak flag fly if that's what you're going to do.

        I've also had women who do this: "Tell me how my pussy feels on your cock in comparison to all the other women?" and even one who had some fantasies about watching me do another women but the stars never lined up on that one.

        The whole monogamy things seems pretty questionable after a while...

        [–]WastedPotential 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Has to be a mental illness for a man to enjoy that, not natural. Porn probably doesn't help but it's not the cause.

        I would imagine there are evolutionary reasons for it, on some level.

        It's not hard to see how it might be advantageous to let the tribal leader bang your woman. At least that way you get to live and take the sloppy seconds. Try to stop him and he'll smash your head on a rock.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        If that were the case, the tribal leader would have a greater chance of spreading his genes, and future generations would be less and less cuckold before disappearing.

        More likely they just get off on the high of jealous anger. It's interesting that it's viewed as a "kink" on Reddit. It seems like the cuckolds have deep seeded issues they need work on, and this is just stopping them from fixing them.

        [–]blackedoutfast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        this relates to the theory that the male penis evolved to pull sperm out of the vagina.

        this could have developed as a "sneaky" alternative mating strategy. alpha male goes and mates with a female. some of the betas who aren't strong enough to challenge the alpha get turned off by seeing this and wander away. but the betas with the cuck tendencies hang out and watch, and as soon as the alpha finishes and wanders off, the cuck betas jump on the female and also put some sperm in there.

        [–]WastedPotential 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        If that were the case, the tribal leader would have a greater chance of spreading his genes

        And so would the cuck, because he survives.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Over time, there would be less and less cucks to the point where they would disappear due to the tribal leader genes. You may have a couple who survive as a result, but nothing I see which correlates to a tangible evolutionary purpose for it.

        [–]martinko1337 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        These guys are just low test betas, porn might contribute to this but its FAR from the main factor. Lets assume basically everyone watches porn, source: it was impossible to find a control group that did not watch porn. This and the fact not everyone is a cuck leads us to the conclusion there must be other main factor.

        What's happening is that someone has shunned real sexual experience for a virtual sexual experience.

        You're on to something here, people lack real life sexual experiences and thus associate sexual release as masturbation only. Neuroplasticity will eventually lead you here, lack of real life interaction with women will only make it worse. If youre caught in a bad spiral you need to push yourself out there, fail a lot in the start, then fail a bit less, and finally start succeeding.

        [–]kowaikawaii 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        I honestly think the reason people think his way is because people view BBC as a type of humiliation for the girl. Usually in porn with black men, they have ginormous cocks and it’s a dominance / border line disgusting. Almost like watching a girl get fucked by an animal.

        [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

        Why nofap is crazy? Why taking distance from it.

        I respect nofap, evenif i found some excess of bluepill in it.

        Why? I see people with some courage (in various measures, of course), who recognize their problem, face it, and try to solve it.

        You have a point in noticing how our brain on porn tricks us.

        [–]LeftHookTKD 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        Nothing wrong with doing nofap. The problem is when these guys think nofap gives you super powers and swears by it.

        [–]Passthepogs 43 points44 points  (1 child)

        Porn has made us all into voyeuristic cucks.

        So this was always inevitable, only one thing can save us.

        POV VR!

        [–]xKalista 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        That will be the Dawn of brave New world

        [–]Kalinali 28 points29 points  (1 child)

        There was a meme circulating around that watching porn turns men into cucks, since you're watching other men have sex with women while you observe. So there's some truth to porn being harmful in how it rewires a man's brain into being a passive observer.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        There is also a lot of trolling involved. Some people love to post cuck spam on /pol/ and see people rage. Same thing in the comment section on a porn site. There is no need to take it at face value.

        [–]askmrcia 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        I scrolled way way way too far down to see this comment. People don't know what trolling is now

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Cuck trollig is successful because people take it far too seriously.

        Proof: This thread.

        [–]1mental_models 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I 'get' the amount of convo this thread generated. I don't get the ~700 likes/86%...

        that's fucking sad commentary

        I also get that generating traffic is good for TRP, but there is a question about quality. /keepingitreal

        [–]aZZburgers1 29 points30 points  (1 child)

        I've never understood cucks. The only thing about porn that makes me horny is to be able to fantasize that it's me giving the dicking.

        [–]Oppressions 32 points33 points  (2 children)

        All porn is cuck porn. Simple as that.

        [–]L3T 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        "Everything is about sex, except sex, which is about power".

        [–]lasttimewedidthis 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        Blaming porn for the inability to control yourself? Nah. I've been watching porn ever since i was a teen. Never once have i fantasized about another dude fucking one of my girls. It just doesn't happen for me. So a lot has to do with what you actually have in preference. Porn isn't making you a cuck. You are making you a cuck.

        Stop fantasizing about the dude and start applying what you see to your girl. Women love getting roughed up. I haven't met a single girl that didn't like getting handled.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I've watched a lot of porn in my life, but it's almost always solo or lesbian girls. My dick used to get soft and I'd have to find a new video if a naked guy popped in the scene.

        But porn is a rabbit hole, your brain will eventually not be satisfied by what you started out viewing. I used to waste hours looking for the perfect ass/tits for whatever my mood was.

        [–]AutofluorescentGrid 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        Porn is kinda okay but the problem is addiction and how it fcks up your dopamine release without even doing anything to deserve such feeling .

        [–]MKSsystem 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        Pretty sure "Man I'd love to see her get plowed by a BBC" and "made for bbc" is a meme

        [–]2Dmva100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Inb4 some dude who says all white chicks crave BBC, when all they fuck is white HB3 fat slag single moms.

        [–]telluwhut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I think the rise in the popularity of the cuckolding fetish is a direct result of ubiquitous pornography.

        [–]AnjaJutta 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        OP, you are making a good point. These people picture a bull fucking the hot chick instead of themselves because they lack the testosterone to see themselves as the bull.

        [–]Aurien7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Porn is easy to abuse and should be avoided. It is sad to see men cucking themselves.

        [–]PM_me_submissives 12 points13 points  (10 children)

        Orgasm is one of the most physiologically rewarding things with the amount of dopamine it provides to you. This reinforces not just the current stimuli, but also the neural pathways that were active before (getting ready to watch porn, pulling down your pants, etc)

        And it seems the most promoted type of porn is the blacked type porn, with apparently some of the most handsome black porn actors and most angelic looking white porn actresses. It's kinda like some pop stars, it's not that they're the best singers, but they're picked, promoted and pushed by considerable production.

        Who those producers are? Well if you used pornhub, you might have seen what happened to their logo yesterday.

        That will give you some idea to who is interested in pushing exactly that kind of pornographic idea.

        [–]cudder17 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        What was their logo? I don't watch porn anymore.

        [–]Graceful_Ballsack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        let me know if you find out

        [–]Listen_up_slapnuts 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Porn isn't a Jewish conspiracy. Come on.

        [–]PM_me_submissives 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        You're the one who calls it by the loaded word conspiracy.

        I simply pointed out one specific category and who pushes it.

        Before that it was male jew with white catholic female. Take it from this jewish scholar if you don't take it from me: http://archive.is/VZSVc

        And in the future it will be a lot more cuck porn.

        [–]Enigma221 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This. Holy shit man I know what you are talking about and have studied it extensively. Run the whole Porn industry and everything. We are really going to be screwed if we cant get out shit together. We shouldn't let them win.

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        [–]MoronicBobbin[🍰] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

        Most the stuff in Sperm Wars has long been debunked.

        [–]KirklandCamber 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Sources? I want to read these as I still think sperm wars is mostly true.

        [–]Phoenixtorment 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The head of the penis is shaped in a way that it removes the competitors sperm.

        [–]occupythekitchen 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Mind reprogramming is a thing. I've reprogrammed myself a few times but holy shit if it's not something people actively avoid.

        I don't think porn makes all user cucks but it definitely can program someone to think that is the new normal

        [–]travillo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        I'm pissed I just masturbated to porn. Fuck it's so a bitch behavior 😒

        [–]red_matrix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I've been curious about this behavior for a while. Lots of my friends follow 'hot chicks' on Instagram/Snap,etc it makes no sense. It seems like the ultimate beta activity you could do. I agree porn is cancer, and it's the reason why there is an epidemic of young guys with erectile dysfunction today.

        [–]Mr-Kabuki 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        people who comment on pornhub creep me out

        [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 8 points9 points  (4 children)

        So when I play call of duty, the character is an avatar for me to kill axis and allied forces.

        Naturally "I want to kill the russians' transforms into... You get the idea.

        Porn is like alcohol, not Mk ultra

        [–]1mental_models 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        alcohol is a good analogy.

        Pleasure can be a paradise or a prison.

        A taste or moderation is usually better than overindulging when it comes to pleasure.

        add porn, alcohol, drugs, food, internet, gaming, and zillion other things to the list...

        If I could keep a bag of heroin in the medicine cabinet, and only sniff a tiny line once a year when I had a bad migraine, I would. But I can't, so I don't.

        There's a great market for all these things to be used and encouraged to be used habitually. I don't see a 'need' beyond that market(financial) that involves weakening a percentage of society that lacks self-control/discipline, but weak/addicted men among the sheeple certainly doesn't hurt the rulers of our society. It's possible that some of the exposure, or even simply the lack of education/training on how to self-discipline, could be at the very least seen as a means of control.

        [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        If you can't say no, stop saying yes

        [–]bennyhapianno 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        The answer is black dudes watch porn

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          [–]Redpillandrew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          IMO this is the modern true foundation of cuckoldry

          [–]BeingRoman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I don't think porn is the cause of the issue, but I think it exacerbates the issue.

          Its like this person already cannot connect to women, but instead of solving the problem they escape it through porn. Over time porn mutates their problems with connecting to women into extreme fetishes like cuckold, or submission. They've tricked themselves into believing they actually like to be sidelined, because they don't want to overcome their problems with connecting to women.

          The difference is there are people who watch porn, and that's it. There are also people who watch porn as a substitute for intimacy with women, and that is what the problem is.

          Porn does not have to be bad, but it will make any problems you have with women worse. You also gain nothing from watching it so its better to quit either way.

          [–]They_Call_Me 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          really, its pissed of asian men trolling

          [–]Starfuckingman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Have you had any, what I'd assume to be called porn-induced fetishes and got rid of them?

          [–]fatboybug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Dayum.....Now that is some twisted shit

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Or maybe he's just got a tiny dick and wants to see her happy. /s

          [–]AstuteBlackMan 6 points7 points  (16 children)

          This is how all cucks, pedos, rapists and even simps start.

          Excess porn. Not good. Not healthy.

          Edit: y'all are annoying. I'm not saying rapists didn't exist before porn. I'm just saying its a major fucking factor in today's society.

          That's not to say everyone who watches porn becomes a cuck. Holy shit

          [–]Bulletproof_P 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          Shure man, rape and pedophilia did not exist before porn. You must be very smart.

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            [–]AstuteBlackMan 4 points5 points  (10 children)

            You guys aren't understanding my comment.

            A lot of people have been led astray due to porn. They were healthy beforehand and porn made their life bad in general.

            When people claim to stop using it they claim their life got better.

            You can believe whatever. I'm not saying rapists didn't exist before porn though.

            [–]stevenbarcynski 6 points7 points  (2 children)

            I've been porn sober about 2 or 3 months. Really wished someone explained scientifically to me how it would fuck me. Now I get it. I maintain eye contact and show my soul to others. The toxic shame is gone. Or way less at least. I'm more powerful than I ever was before. I'm also no fapping 2 weeks in before my Peru shaman trip at New Years. Bring on the great awakening baby.

            [–]AstuteBlackMan 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            Yeah the benefits are amazing. I think most men who don't like to hear that porn isn't that great are men who don't wish to date women. They say porn is their sexual substitute. That's sad.

            [–]stevenbarcynski 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Gotta agree with you. Very sad. Most of those who escaped are too ashamed to admit the depravity of what they experienced so it's rare to have fearless role models spearheading the anti-porn charge without sounding like a religious nut or your standardized nut. The no fap and red pill folks, while internet-based, really helped my perspective.

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            [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            "Now a days?" someone wrote about this problem in the 40s. Lol

            [–]lucidum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Subtext being Jews specifically are out to get you? Take responsibility for yourself man, that line of reasoning is played out and untrue.

            [–]whuttupfoo 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            I wonder if there’s any scientific proof of this or if it’s all just hypothesizing.

            [–]red_matrix 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            Yeah - there has been studies on dopamine overload and the brain's rewiring with porn (neuroplasticity). In chronic users the men have lost their libido when it comes to sexual encounters with women, but have no issue jerking it to porn. This strange case of erectile dysfunction is not physical (like with older men), but a mental issue tied to porn addiction. This is a fairly new phenomenon, and is still being studied, but it seems fairly obvious.

            [–]jamesbwbevis 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            What's wrong with that? Jerking off is the better option 99% of the time now

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            [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (2 children)

            Write a post exploring why nofap isn't redpill then. Don't just bitch about it, do something

            [–]lasttimewedidthis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            He's right man. This post has nothing to do with porn or red pill. Everyone here agreeing with this either thirsty for dick or just love the idea of being a cuck and blame porn for it. Jesus Christ. Get a grip people.

            [–]greatslyfer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            I'm kinda developing that over the years lol, what a cuck, amirite guys?

            But yeah holy shit I thought this was self esteem issue but this does make sense.

            You shape the way you visualize sex with porn. It's not just the woman. But the random guy behind the woman.

            I even had friends and acquantainces in my fapping sessions lmao.

            Should I just kill myself or what? 😭😭😭

            [–]themostlegit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I don’t think you’re right, and I say that with experience as a bull. In the relationships I’ve had with hotwives, it’s been a need for self validation. Most of these guys have been men who obviously had self esteem issues, and used the fact that they had a wife other men wanted as a way to kind of validate themselves. They were the same guys who were always showing off their cars, or the shit they buy to get attention.

            [–]EverythingIsFractal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            My theory is the guys who wanna see their wife get fucked are either gay or somewhat gay. I think they actually just want to see a dick and are severely closeted. Ive had several couples hit on me and the girl with me, at a bar. In retrospect I have realized that the guy was particularly flirty with me, I didn't notice at the time but it just clicked one day.

            He doesn't wanna see his girl fucked, he wants to see my dick and the only way he's gonna see a stud fuck someone is if he uses his girl as bait. I have no interest in watching but they definitely did. To each his own.

            For older men I think it could be declining testosterone and increasing estrogen causing a little gayness.

            [–]CarnivOre93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            @lordthunderbolt Any comments here sir?

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