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MetaThe Reddit Administration Recants (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Modredpillschool[M]

As many have noticed, Reddit Admin have taken down their required truth reading link to Michael Kimmel's Scam before entering /r/TheRedPill, mainly after I posted this scathing takedown where I explained that their resource on "positive masculinity" was, in fact, a male abuse victim denier.

That's right folks, you can't make it up. Reddit admin, who fancy themselves as the purveyors of what is good and what is not, accidentally told a men's forum that they were absolutely and unequivocally wrong, bad and offensive, and then tried to tell them that the true path to positive masculinity IS DENYING MALE ABUSE VICTIMS.

Holy fucking shit, Reddit Admin. What on earth are you thinking?

Here's what we know now:

The Reddit admin- the ones who believe it is up to them to tell us what we can and cannot read not based on rules, not based on legalities, but on a false sense of morality and self-righteousness, just recanted on their allegedly moral position of what positive masculinity is. Because it was absolutely, undoubtedly, and utterly immoral.

We are still drafting our appeal to the quarantine, but honestly we're starting to think the Reddit Admin are writing the appeal for us.

To the Reddit Admin: You have demonstrated that you are not an authority on morality. You have demonstrated that you do not have the proper judgment to tell users what they should and should not read. You have just subjected 300,000 of your users to an anti-male, abuse-denier. I think you should be ashamed, and I think you should apologize to the users here.

A positive, non-toxic male admits when he's wrong and apologizes when he accidentally denies to 300,000 men that they can be victims of abuse.


Who here thinks the admin have the proper judgment to be able to tell them what they should and should not read?


[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (38 children)

I'm still amused at the unintended consequences of all of this. The Streisand Effect is real. TRP has largely been apolitical, but in one grandiose example of shooting themselves in the foot the left has damn near turned a 300,000 strong subreddit into a veritable Political Action Committee.

And not just ours, but several other subreddits who are aghast at the censorship that's happening. We're talking about 300,000 here, another 250,000 or so at /MensRights, a fuckton at /Mgtow, and the list goes on. Hell, even some subs that hate the strawman they believe we are have taken to our defense. Way to energize the base of your opposition!

This is why I don't think we'll see a blue wave in November. Every attempt at shutting down conservatives, or really just anyone the left disagrees with, is making people realize just how bug nuts insane the political left has become.

[–]Imperator_Red 275 points276 points  (51 children)

Funniest part of that: The woman that said she believed that the population should be artificially set at only 10% male or some shit. Can she not see that that would lead to the ultimate patriarchy? Almost every dude would be living like a fucking warlord. They would literally give zero fucks about the women. Every woman would be part of a harem and would do literally anything their new daddy wanted.

Second funniest part: The idea that a civilization composed of 90% women would actually be able to sustain itself. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good luck doing all those jobs that don't involve policing men's tone at work, indoctrinating children, or pushing paper around government bureaucracies. By day 3 the garbage would be overflowing onto the streets and shit water would be coming out of the pipes into their bath tubs.

Edit: Third funniest part: Leftists are now arguing under the banner of "it's a private company and it can do whatever it wants. You have no rights here." Gotta say I definitely did not see that about face coming.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 118 points119 points  (13 children)

Can she not see that that would lead to the ultimate patriarchy?

The woman in question is a lesbian. She isn't thinking in terms of how that would impact heteroseuxals.

> By day 3 the garbage would be overflowing onto the streets

If men disappeared, civilization would last until the first oil change.

> Leftists are now arguing under the banner of "it's a private company and it can do whatever it wants.

Unless it involves trannies, muslims or some other 'oppression studies' group.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 51 points52 points  (6 children)

If men disappeared, civilization would last until the first oil change.

It wouldn't even take that long. We live in a "just in time" society with goods being delivered on a regular basis. The grocery stores would be empty in about 2 weeks, and from there... they begin to starve. The world would quickly find out what it's like for the poor living in Venezuela. How long it'll be before they start eating their pets is anybody's guess.

[–]antariusz 13 points14 points  (0 children)

We don’t have to “guess”.

Fluffy the purse puppy owned by a New York City socialite would survive as long as pets survived in Venezuela.

Humans are humans.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4857008/Starving-Venezuelans-butcher-DOG-street-eat.html

[–]Selexus 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Recent (unsubstantiated) reports her in the UK have indicated that the average household has 9 meals available in the house at any one time. That's 3 days worth of food before basic groceries need to be sourced (from empty stores)

Hence the understanding that during any form of disaster/extreme event we are 72hrs from social unrest.

I remember reading on a preppers site that a lot of governmental disaster planning revolves around this 72hrs window.

There was a TV mini series (mocumentary) about a decade ago that dealt with the fictional events that unfolded from a country wide blackout. Sure enough violence and social breakdown happened very quickly in their depiction of events.

[–]beginner_ 11 points12 points  (1 child)

On some level I actually understand preppers. I should for sure have more essential stuff stored from food, water, batteries, flashlights, gas,... but not everyone lives in the country side and can afford at least 1 large extra room for all the stuff.

EDIT: If you have the guts for it, all you need to store is guns and bullets. The rest you can then get for free.

[–]ParanoidKasparov 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Water is the important one. Cleaning and more importantly hydration knock you out after the first day if your doing anything physical in most of the U.S. It doesn't take a 10x10 room either unless you want to go extreme 6 month prepper. For most its just a filled up food pantry with non perishables and some sort of water purification setup enough for say a few weeks or month. Maybe a portable generator setup if you want to pay the electrician 400 bucks to set one up. I live in the Midwest and honestly every house here can and should have an independent power supply I.E. Generator solar etc. especially if you have family on medical devices Like I do. If we ever get to the point where its months until govt. food trucks show up its the guns time so the food part wont matter until you find yourself eating to much human.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was making a subtle point, not providing a predictive measure.

All of this aside, if we have another Carrington Event, we’re pretty much fucked.

[–]Iamverydrunknow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

stores would be empty in less than a day because of panic and corruption

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Yeah. Just imagine what would happen if a privately owned business like i. e. a bakery refused to serve a gay couple for their weddi... Oh... Wait!

[–]DancesWithPugs 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Small businesses cannot do as they will, that privilege is reserved for larger companies.

[–]textualintercourse 16 points17 points  (0 children)

So they are now agreeing that the bakery didn't have to bake the goddamn fucking cake. Good to know.

[–]FrankVillain 6 points7 points  (1 child)

If men disappeared, civilization would last until the first oil change.

Exactly. And if it wasn't for men, our ancestors would never have crossed the first fucking river.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How many guys in this sub have changed their own oil?

I know that is south of 50%.

[–]redaftrp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's some short sighted thinking for sure...

[–]Pezotecom 33 points34 points  (28 children)

A friend just said to me "it's their site, they can do whatever they want". Like, are you fucking kidding me? A platform designed to allow their users to share content is now censoring speech and all you have to say is that shit? I didn't even respond to the guy because that kind of argument leaves you no fucking way to have a decent conversation.

"Man I hate mondays"

"Monday will continue to be a day of the week."
THANKS FOR THE INSIGHT

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 36 points37 points  (15 children)

A friend just said to me "it's their site, they can do whatever they want"

And to that you can say, 'Glad you think so. I hope you remember that the next time someone decides not to make a cake for someone.'

[–]Imperator_Red 36 points37 points  (14 children)

Rights are for women, gays, blacks, hispanics, and muslims, not me and you.

[–]greenovni 20 points21 points  (10 children)

I'm latino and find what's going on completely disgusting.... so do all my friends and family when it comes to over all leftist shit.

I can tell you this, they are ALL voting R in the upcoming elections.

[–]Knightofthewest 6 points7 points  (9 children)

And you absolutely should. Anywhere there's strong, succesful men, you guys are next.

[–]4matting 6 points7 points  (6 children)

When they're done with the white males, the hispanic and black men are next on the menu. It's only a matter of time.

We need to stand together.

[–]Winterknight82475125 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Heh, they ALREADY got the blacks, they destroyed our communities 20-30 odd years ago, pumping drugs into our communities, adding welfare to promote "Progress" i.e. co-dependancy, pumping our communities with tons of illegal immigration which pushes out the black population from jobs etc, then well there are drugs, might as well sell that, well, now the state can lock up all the men, which means no fathers which means rise of the matriarchy which equals the sorry state that the black community has been in since Nixon.

They're working on everyone else now, especially seeing how easy it was to destroy the black community. I wouldnt be suprised if they saw what happened and made their methods MORE efficient, and tweaked it so that they can have complete control over the men in all of western society

[–]4matting 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Reminds me of an article I read a while back, I think it was on the negromanosphere.com. Basically the writer made the argument that what is happening and what is going to happen to America, already happened to black America.

I'll try to find it, and share it with you.

Edit: Found it. It was on returnofkings.com. I'm not from the US, so I'm curious to know what you think of this. http://www.returnofkings.com/2090/how-black-america-has-predicted-our-future

[–]Winterknight82475125 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, a lot of black people already know this. The black Community is a Matriarchy now. The same forces that created this are using similar tactics to control. . .men everywhere else. Obviously they aren't using the same tactics, just similar ones as they've probably learned/run into problems (like the first amendment). But the End game is control. That much is obvious.

[–]TheObservationalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah they helped you black guys pretty much to death. Thank a liberal!

[–]greenovni 0 points1 point  (1 child)

And you absolutely should. Anywhere there's strong, succesful men, you guys are next.

Not sure what you mean about "you guys are next" but I can tell you this, if I am right about what you think, we have been preparing too ;)

[–]Sir_PressedMemories 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The largest population of men is currently white men, once you get them docile, feminized and basically, under control, you move on to the next demographic and so on and so on.

[–]farshadnm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i thought this sub is for men in general, not just white Christians.

i get what you're saying though.

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    [–]destraht 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    There is a good chance you'll have to get a new friend soonish.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 5 points6 points  (9 children)

    A friend just said to me "it's their site, they can do whatever they want".

    It's funny hiw libtards retread to the libertarian standpoint if it fits their narrative. It's even more funny, that nobody is arguing against the company's right to do whatever the fuck they want. We aren't arguing on a legislative level, but on a moral level and if a company with a product and a size like reddit should feel morally abliged to follow and implement the ideas that made the USA the country it is. Typing this as a German btw.

    Completely letting aside the fact, that "dangerous" but wrong ideas should always be openly available so they can be discussed and refuted and so they loose the mystical aura that surrounds them. Provided you regard TRP as a place where dangerous and false ideas are spread.

    [–]poohead3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Wrongthink is suppressed not because it's offensive, but because it's usually true.

    [–]Flawless44 -1 points0 points  (7 children)

    You're right, but there's no reason to resort to name calling. In a no bullshit forum, that's just bullshit.

    [–][deleted]  (5 children)

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      [–]Flawless44 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      Lol.

      You're the reason we can't have mature discussion.

      [–]DannyDemotta 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      "We", says Mr 1-Year Old account? That's rich.

      We do things differently around here - always have, always will. Content is what matters. Bring content. Scattered insults, emojis here and there, goofy jokes, toilet humor. But overall content is what matters.

      Nobody needs you here being a fuckhead concern trolling, gatekeeping and tone policing. Either you have something to add or keep your dicksuckers shut.

      [–]Flawless44 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Man. The idea of not insulting people you're conversing with is not something discovered recently.

      It improves quality, content, and let's people take you seriously.

      You don't have to listen to me. You're welcome to rant about libtards and snowflakes and dick-whatever's. It just makes you look like a fool, and violates rule 5 of this subreddit.

      Do not insult or harass members.

      Posts & Comments

      Debate the ideas, not the person. If you have a point to be made, make it with well reasoned rationale. Calling members "beta" or "bitch" brings the level of discourse down to preadolescent schoolyard bickering.

      Also, individuals with special flairs are members of the community who have proven themselves to add valuable content to our forum. We want them to stay. If you try to make their participation unpleasant, you will be banned. Feel free to disagree with them, but do so with courtesy.

      [–]Winterknight82475125 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      No one is taking you seriously. Time for you to figure out why. We can't do it for you.

      Good luck. . .?

      [–]Flawless44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      If quoting the rules doesn't do it for you, nothing will. Good luck to you too.

      Here, you can have your passive aggressive questionmark back.

      "?"

      [–]Eslapole -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

      Honestly, I think he is right. Reddit's staff should be totally free to manage its website as the please. However, in a ideal world, if reddit bans subreddits people should stop visiting reddit and try to sabotage the website for being dictatorial and not allowing freedom speech. We all know that this isn't happening since most people don't believe in freedom speech.

      Anyways, I have never understood why redpill people would come to the reddit. Don't you realize that by being in this forum we are giving money to the same people who would like to make us disappear from the world? I strongly feel that the best option that we have is to create and own website.

      [–]nmagod 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      only 10% male

      Hypergamy at its finest. I imagine she thinks men would be locked up in breeding chambers 18 hours of every day, never stopping their work to produce more women to oppress the male population.

      [–]4matting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      South Park had an episode about this, where men are kept underground on Mars, and milked for their sperm and jokes.

      [–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Speaking of patriarchy, that complaint that life's never good enough is eternal, because there are no extrinsic solutions into intrinsic problems.

      [–]AnonymousTSCM 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Well if the population was only 10% men imagine how much you could charge for an oil change. $300 per oil change and only do two oil changes per day. Be making $600 a day for an hour of work.

      [–]redditaccountiuse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      They don't tend to understand economics. Not surprising a supply/demand issue wouldn't be on their radar.

      [–]1Noblefiz 106 points107 points  (11 children)

      I'm glad you are our moderator, dude. Thank you for all your hard work.

      In response to your question, I currently do not believe any of the Reddit admin are in any position to dictate to their users what the "truth" is, or how to be a "man". Both are subjective.

      The reddit admin need to understand what it means to be impartial and be able and willing to see multiple angles of a discussion before attempting to push their personal ideologies on their users.

      Edit: a word

      [–]coldcanyon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

      If I was a spindly little pencil-neck nerd and my wife was one of the studliest he-man athletes on the planet, I would stfu about how to be a man. But that's just me.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 11 points12 points  (8 children)

      The admins know this. That's why this sub has survived so far. Problem is more the fact that having a platform where "hate speech" is supported is not good for bringing in advertisers. So they gotta find a way to shut it down, while still promoting impartiality... Not easy.

      [–]ANGRY_ATHEIST 16 points17 points  (7 children)

      where "hate speech" is supported is not good for bringing in advertisers

      Advertisers target women, because women buy more than 80% of all goods and services. This is an interesting fact considering the supposed "wage gap". How is it that men make 70%+ of the income, yet more than 80% of the money is spent by women? It's not difficult to do the math there.

      Since women are the main targets for advertising, any platform that goes against the female sexual strategy becomes not as profitable for most advertisers. Like it or not, this is more than likely just a business decision on admin's part.

      There's probably some deeper RP truths in all that, but I'll let someone more endorsed do that write-up (if it hasn't been done already)

      [–]Lib3rtarianSocialist 4 points5 points  (4 children)

      How is it that men make 70%+ of the income, yet more than 80% of the money is spent by women? It's not difficult to do the math there.

      The wage gap is a myth. But if you meant the above proves that, then no. Don't use that argument against a feminist in case they use a little logic and then it'll be embarrassing for you when otherwise you'd be right.

      [–]ANGRY_ATHEIST 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      The wage gap is only a myth in the way it's applied by feminists. Men DO make more money than women overall, but that is because more men work than women do. They try to say that it's because women are paid less to do the same work that men do, which is the myth.

      [–]Lib3rtarianSocialist 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Correct. But look at the words too. Wage gap means difference is wage, which doesn't exist. There is instead an earnings gap.

      [–]ANGRY_ATHEIST 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      That's why I put "wage gap" in quotes.

      [–]TrainedHelplessness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      There's this classic piece: https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/05/cyberbll.html

      If women are unsafe on the internet, as recipients of bullying and death threats, wouldn't the easy solution be to promote anonymous accounts for women?

      That doesn't work, because companies need to advertise to women and know who they are. So they implement real names policies and we get articles associating anonymity with creepy male behavior.

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Too bad. I thought for all the users frothing at the mouth in here, one was actually going to create the content they are angry about possibly losing.

      [–]NomBok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Oh but the new thing going around is the left using the term "his truth" and "her truth". THE truth is no longer required. Because everyone apparently must be believed now.

      [–]LEGALIZEMEDICALMETH 64 points65 points  (5 children)

      I’ve been here for a long time. All the way back since 2013 or so (over the course of several different reddit accounts). There were a few years in between where I was unsure if the ideas here were right or even morally true. But this has basically solidified my stance. Every young man needs to learn the knowledge we have here. It is so undefinably valuable. Not only with girls, or careers but with life. Before TRP, masculinity was slowing fading away and being redefined by people with destructive motives and often those who weren’t even men at all. This is one of the last few places on the internet, and maybe in all of western society, that places truth and reason above emotion and political correctness. The things I’ve learned here have already benefited me and will continue to benefit me for the rest of my life. Lifting, learning how to lead, understanding the importance of having goals. Learning how to deal with women was only a small part of it to be honest. But the powers that be want us shut down because of “misogyny”? What bullshit. Ironically the men here are probably around women alot more then those who decided we were misogynists. Women and men are different. Is recognizing a scientific truth misogyny? Should we ignore it? Cover it up and act like the sexes are completely identical with no differences? Society has sunk so low when lies are now favorable to reality. I don’t hate women. I doubt many men here hate women. I’m sure there are some who do, but there are also plenty of women who hate men in feminist circles. I don’t see any cries of outrage to shut them down. And I’ll support their right to hate men if they choose to do so for nothing other than the fact that I value free speech above forced good-think. I have no interest in banning ideas of any kind. If what we are saying here is so dangerous that it must be locked away and kept out of sight, then there must be something truthful then. Because why ban ideas that hold no sway? At the very least I’m looking forward to this: being one of the last real men in a feminized society full of the ignorant and blind.

      [–]1empatheticapathetic 34 points35 points  (1 child)

      Please use paragraphs next time bro.

      [–]xrKles 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      Good enough comment that i will excuse the blob

      [–]the-dan-man 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Frankly, i do not think it will be as good as you make out. I myself feel alienated and increasingly more alone in a world which seems more and more full of lies. Being made aware of certain truths and the inner workings of the world does not make you feel more free or powerful. In my eyes it gives you an extra burden and responsibility.

      [–]4matting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Keep learning, and working on self improvement. Every day you will become better at navigating this clown world, and you will have an opportunity to thrive.

      You have an opportunity to succeed over those who seek to live with their heads in the sand.

      [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 65 points66 points  (13 children)

      The truth is that reddit staff didn't give this more than thirty seconds worth of thought. Some butthurt intern wanted to answer back, using root access instead of a regular comment or post, and googled the first thing xe could find that contradicted us.

      Lo, and behold, it turned out that this was composed of the ideas of a creepy harrasser, a genocide advocate, a man hater, and a domestic abuse apologist. And that's just two people.

      Anyone think that's a coincidence?

      100% of our ideological opponents are morally bankrupt. All of them. The ones who appear clean just haven't been caught yet. Everything they accuse us of, they themselves are guilty of.

      DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. This is what they do.

      /u/spez doesn't care about any of that, of course. He's not truly ashamed because the possibility has never entered his tiny, self-absorbed mind that he might, just might be wrong. No, he's not ashamed, he's only embarrassed.

      He just doesn't want to look bad.

      That's why the link silently vanished, with no retraction or apology. He doesn't have the courage to take responsibility for his mistakes, or those of the team that reports to him. He is every inch the disgusting spineless manchild that his physical appearance would suggest. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

      That is why there can never be a debate or open dialogue with this sort of leftist human headache. Not simply because they lack the imagination and mental discipline to imagine someone else's worldview, but because they are so lacking in courage that they bear to sit and listen to someone contradict them, even for long enough to await their turn to speak.

      Being contradicted fills them with such pain that they cannot imagine the source of it to be anything but pure evil.

      • This will never be resolved.
      • No reddit staff will ever address this community directly in any medium that permits a response, unless that response can be shamelessly ignored.
      • The ban, when it happens, will happen silently and without warning.

      The good news is that we don't need them. We only ever used their resources out of convenience, not necessity. We have among us all the expertise and initiative required to build for ourselves whatever we need.

      All you have to do is show willing.

      [–]textualintercourse 7 points8 points  (3 children)

      Spez helped off his sane freedom of speech pal. He doesn't give a fuck about anything, Cold Blooded sociopath.

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Alex did, and I believe he committed suicide when he was threatened by a zealous DA over bullshit chargers...

      [–]textualintercourse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      "Suicided" is the proper term.

      [–]Winterknight82475125 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You misspelled Murdered wrong.

      [–]4matting 1 point2 points  (7 children)

      Their vain attempts to silence us will only make us stronger. I would love to see how much our community has grown in the last few days.

      edit: spelling

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The truth is that reddit staff didn't give this more than thirty seconds worth of thought. Some butthurt intern wanted to answer back, using root access instead of a regular comment or post, and googled the first thing xe could find that contradicted us.

      I thought the same, well that, or a troll.

      [–]theadj123 33 points34 points  (3 children)

      I messaged the admins about this the day it happened and got a 3 day suspension. I am now following up on why I was banned for 'harassment' when nothing I said met the Reddit TOS for harassment, unless 'messaging an admin something they don't like' is now harassment. No /u/bsutansalt there will not be a blue wave, it will be a fucking red tsunami.

      [–]Lib3rtarianSocialist 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      it will be a fucking red tsunami.

      Behold, the Bolshevik revolution!

      [–]Winterknight82475125 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      wwaaaaaiiit a minute there buddy.

      [–]mette13 37 points38 points  (6 children)

      I'd chop my dick off if the Admin actually left a decent apology.

      [–]Modredpillschool[S] 54 points55 points  (5 children)

      Don't say that- it might actually make them apologize!

      [–]Omnibrad 33 points34 points  (2 children)

      They will never apologize because they don't think they're doing anything wrong.

      [–]Modredpillschool[S] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

      Well they did just remove their mistake so there's another tacit admission...

      [–]jcrpta 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Thing is, in their world the mistake wasn't pointing potential readers at the opinion of someone who thinks there's no such thing as domestic violence against men.

      Their mistake was pointing potential readers at the opinion of someone who's been accused of sexual harassment.

      [–]Pezotecom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Since their goal is avoiding us to be men apparentely

      [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Worse yet - by chopping off his dick /u/mette13 would become one of them.

      [–]Gimmick_puppet 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      In the Reddit Admins minds, your takedown only reinforces their beliefs. Exposing their errors and backwards thinking will only make them more sure about their "correct thinking" because only a truly horrible person would question their beliefs.

      [–]3CainPrice 17 points18 points  (2 children)

      I think that the removal of that stupid link wasn't the Reddit administration "recanting", but correcting an obvious error. That link to Stoney Brook made the quarantine of The Red Pill look very obviously personal.

      If Reddit just did a general content review and made a list: "Here are 27 subreddits that violate our non-quarantined content policies and qualify for quarantine", then quarantined the list of subreddits, that would appear professional and impersonal.

      But when somebody sticks a link to a liberal, feminized, healthy masculinity university program on the quarantine page for The Red Pill, that demonstrates that the quarantine wasn't some professional, impersonal enforcement of content policies. It was personal.

      Whoever posted that link wasn't some office administrator who was enforcing content policies. It was somebody who intimately knew what The Red Pill was supposed to about and was posting an alternative source. Essentially saying, "Yup. I'm quarantining you assholes. And here's a link for how to be real men, instead of being losers like you."

      With the Stoney Brook link on the quarantine notice, it was clear that the quarantine wasn't mere administrative content enforcement, but a very personal attack from someone who knew what The Red Pill was about and disagreed with the viewpoints.

      I don't think the removal of the link is the administration recanting. They're just backpedaling from an emotional response by whatever administrator or intern pushed the quarantine button and typed the notice, to try to make the quarantine appear more official and impersonal, and less of a personal opinionated attack.

      [–]Limekill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Whoever posted that link wasn't some office administrator who was enforcing content policies. It was somebody who intimately knew what The Red Pill was supposed to about and was posting an alternative source. Essentially saying, "Yup. I'm quarantining you assholes. And here's a link for how to be real men, instead of being losers like you."

      I concur. Thats why I abandoned reddit - because I could feel this was coming.

      [–]Terdmuffin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It was somebody who intimately knew what The Red Pill was supposed to about and was posting an alternative source. Essentially saying, "Yup. I'm quarantining you assholes. And here's a link for how to be real men, instead of being losers like you." With the Stoney Brook link on the quarantine notice, it was clear that the quarantine wasn't mere administrative content enforcement, but a very personal attack from someone who knew what The Red Pill was about and disagreed with the viewpoints.

      I think it was more than that. I think it was done to antagonize us into lashing out so we would make ourselves look bad. An ettrmpt to garner justification not just for the quarantine but for an outright ban. I think we were being baited.

      [–]Nov51605 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      I don't think the reddit admins have the ovaries to admit they are / were wrong for this..

      [–]furcryingoutloud 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      This may sound weird, but I actually like that little quarantined tag. It kind of makes the sub look badass.

      Personally, I am not political. Oh I have my opinions, but they don't have anything to do with left or right, top or bottom. To me, all this arguing about parties and left and right is just political rhetoric to keep people fighting amongst themselves and have the stage set for them to do what they want, as usual.

      There is a small group of people who actually make decisions about what path the world is taking. Whether inadvertently or in collusion, it always boils down to real power is always based in a small group. Does anyone here think that the people with real power give a shit about who we like and don't like? The left and the right?

      The left and right are simply terms that are exploited to keep the flock arguing about nothing while the decision makers are left alone to decide for the rest of us. Look at the big picture guys. The big picture is what it has always been. If you don't look out for yourself, nobody will do it for you.

      [–]omega_dawg93 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      this. this. this.

      thank you for typing what i also think. in the USA, EVERYTHING has to be put in a little 'box' so one side can identify with it or against it.

      even when talking about POSITIVE MASCULINITY, there are multiple users who HAVE to label it as left or right. why? when does being a man align with political views?

      the real issue is feminism. instead of trying to claim positive masculinity for political purposes, MEN need to step-up and stop feminism from killing femininity; it can't kill masculinity.

      [–]Wikisnack 26 points27 points  (0 children)

      The quarantine is ostensibly a result of moral judgement by the admins that this sub teaches evil. Their utter lack of commitment toward addressing the supposed moral iniquity, first posting a half assed rebuke in the form of an poorly vetted talking head, then removing it, deepens the sense that they aren't quite sure what part of the communities content they are meant to disagree with.

      It is their duty, their absolute moral obligation to shine a public light on what they see wrong with our speech before they snuff it out.

      [–]Trainmasta 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      /u/Sp3z is possibly a bigger cuck than Trudeau which is quite an achievement

      [–]textualintercourse 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Only the weak must censor. Only the weak are afraid of ideas. Only the weak are afraid of the free exchange of information. Only the weak stifle dissent through authoritarian heavy handed tactics. Only the weak are afraid of strength.

      If any of you motherfuckers vote for the "pussy hat"/SJW/Antifa representative candidate, expect much much more of the same. This is some Orwellian Bolshevik level bullshit going on.

      [–]batfish55 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Siwwy wabbit, you can't abuse men! Men are the abusers! /s

      [–]AllahHatesFags 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      This is all just sjw admins throwing a hissy fit over Kavanaugh. I really hope there is a supreme court case that bans this kind of censorship by companies like reddit, Facebook, Google, etc. and the ruling is written by Kavanaugh.

      [–]Herdsengineers 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I'll say it again, the Liberal/Progress Democrat agenda is about enforcing conformity with their ideals and vision of what society should be. They are couching it in other terms like equality and justice, but it's really just them fooling the masses and getting the masses to conform to their agenda by appealing to the greedy side of human nature (wealth envy and class warfare), and fooling people with emotional arguments not based on fact (modern feminism).

      I'm starting to see signs people are waking up though, especially with just how outrageously and obviously false these Kavanaugh accusations have been. The masses are at least scratching their heads, seeing something's not right. Now might be just the time when they're open to other ideas if someone can present it in a way that doesn't come across as just another angry, male, racist woman hating guy.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

      Who here thinks the admin have the proper judgment to be able to tell them what they should and should not read?

      I'm still shocked >unnamed sub< hasn't been banned. After Charlottesville there was an endless stream of calls for violence against "Nazis".

      Many people, including myself, made calls for calm, that having an activist group present throwing items and injuring protesters was more likely the reason behind one individual feeling aggrieved than some ideology. And we were permanently banned from >unnamed sub< for being, according to the moderators, "Nazi sympathiser".

      You can't make this up: arguing against incitement of violence resulted in bans from >unnamed sub<.

      The administrators, of course, must know that >unnamed sub< is an active hate sub which condones incitement to violence. Yet there's been no quarantining of that sub. Even though that sub breaks a major rule of the site.

      [–]BlackFallout 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Can I have a clue what sub that is?

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      The bot removes any references to other subs, presumably because the sub is viewed with enough suspicion by the admins.

      I'd love to be explicit but let's just say it's a main (default) sub and it centres around discussions that pertain to non-US events - although US events do find their way into that sub anyway.

      [–]BlackFallout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Ah I know what it is

      [–]loveladee 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      at what point is the redpill ever pro-nazi. Half the time the people on this sub are saying that race doesn't fucking matter, and that is always about improving yourself as a male. I could understand the accusations of misogyny , but like i've never seen this place as "alt-right" or "neo-nazi". I read fucking Marx and leftist shit constantly. What's with all this political catch-alling?

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      My comment wasn't about redpill, it was a different sub. And it wasn't about Naziism, it was about calls for violence being tolerated, even condoned, on other main subs, yet in spite of that being a very clear breach of site rules - it is this sub that gets quarantined.

      The point is the admins are not applying the rules equally and fairly. In fact the site rules are largely a complete joke and don't mean anything.

      It's like most legal jurisdictions where the law is so vague and unequally applied that whether or not you go to prison comes largely down to whether you happened to annoy the wrong (powerful) person or not.

      [–]jimmahtimmah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I mean, hasn't reddit always kinda been a joke? this is just further confirmation.

      [–]fmanly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Who here thinks the admin have the proper judgment to be able to tell them what they should and should not read?

      More like, who thinks that ANYBODY should be able to tell them what they should and should not read? If you're into that sort of thing, just go start a review blog somewhere.

      I can't say I agree with everything on this sub, but this Orwellian nonsense is probably going to red-pill more men than anything in your sidebar...

      [–]the-dan-man 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      Hey guys, i just found out about the quarantine. And got VERY worried when i tried to see the subreddit on my mobile, to only find it unlisted.

      So, I am a bit late to the game here. What is the plan? It seems to me, that we are rapidly losing the fight here. Mostly because we do not see free-thinking as somethign we should have to fight for. It is truly truly worrying times for men. When social spaces for us to interact and share ideas die out.

      Personally, i am in a difficult time in my life. And the fact that censorship and the shutting down of ideas and anythign resembling masculinity online and in the media, only makes me more isolated in my social and personal life.

      Anyway, what is the plan? What are peoples thoughts? 300k subscribers is a LOT. Are we going to just sit here and wait until the subreddit is banned? Roosh is leaving too. The manosphere seems to be dying. What is going on?

      We need some leaders, badly. Ones that are not afriad to stand up and speak out and suffer the consequences against the tide.

      [–]jcrpta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It's way too late.

      Reddit's already framed any appeal in terms of "you're guilty; persuade us that you're going to change your wicked ways".

      [–]ReasonFreak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Roosh isn't really leaving he's just moving on to different things.

      [–]Pepethe1stofHisName 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I've been a victim of domestic violence. /u/spez doesn't believe in my right to be heard or exist

      [–]thoughtcourier 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Dropped in to say that I subscribed just because I heard this sub-reddit was "quarantined" (see: censored -- I couldn't access this on mobile).

      I never subscribed because, back when I looked through this subreddit, I agreed with maybe 10% of what is said in here and say maybe 25% of posts are hate speech or borderline and I don't want that negativity in my life. But people deserve to read and decide for themselves. TRP is also a gateway to various male right movements (MRA, Asian Masculinity, MGTOW, incels) where those who don't exactly agree with TRP can go.

      Anyway, I'm sure one of you guys have said it better than me and I already know y'all have backup plans for when the other shoe drops. Just dropping in for support. Proud now to rep "Yeah, I read TRP", to anyone who dares to ask.

      [–]SoulRedemption 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      As much as you your thoughts are appreciated it's best not mention in real life you read TRP. Unless you are openly and overtly standing up for Mens rights. Even then, saying you follow TRP leaves a bad taste in everyone's mind. It's because people have it wrong. Do be careful.

      [–]theglassisbroken2 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      Remember when Reddit's co-founder bragged about free speech? When asked what the Founding Fathers would have thought of reddit: "A bastion of free speech on the World Wide Web? I bet they would like it[...]" - Alexis Ohanian

      ...only to make a complete U-turn later on? "Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a bastion of free speech, but rather as a place where open and honest discussion can happen." - spez

      I remember, and it's what brought me to this site in the first place.

      I won't be surprised if they make another U-turn and argue "Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a place where open and honest discussion can happen."

      [–]DancesWithPugs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Riddle me this. How can you have an open and honest discussion without free speech?

      [–]Winterknight82475125 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Well Alex... just look him up.

      [–]dogkindrepresent 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I can literally hear him turning in his grave.

      [–]DancesWithPugs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Apparently I don't exist, no such thing as male abuse victims and I am one if the '0' subscribers.

      Eat a hairball, reddit.

      I guess y'all want me to keep sliding conservative? If this is the new "New Left" I'm out. Liberals were supposed to be about embracing freedom of choice and diversity, not mass shaming based on transparent bigotry.

      If I call myself a liberal or Democrat these days will people think I support a totalitarian thought control culture and corporate state? I thought that was supposed to be a Republican ideal. Ehhh, it's all crap now, they don't support the people. They bicker in public, fake fights, and then rob us in secret.

      Political parties won't save you.

      [–]FrankVillain 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Everyday, Trump is a bit more re-elected.

      [–]plascra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Grotesque lack of critical thinking. Really.

      [–]666Evo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Recant isn't the word I'd have used...

      [–]novalentineforyou 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Some things are subjective. The existence of male victims of abuse is not subjective. Fuck you, Reddit admins.

      [–]roguefreezemission 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Stony Brook, NY? And you actually thought i was gonna read that shit? brah

      [–]TheStoicCrane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It's as bad a New Paltz, NY. A liberal tye dye circus. Knew some half decent chicks that left for a NY State Campus and came back to town looking like soft faced dudes wkith buzzcuts.

      All of the SUNYs are little more than state funded indoctrination camps. Stony Brook is no exception.

      [–]MeanCaregiver 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      plot twist Reddit is run by women

      [–]richpianoo 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Why dont we create our own website and transfer all our community and the great knowledge that has been dropped here over to the new site and we can do our own thing. That way we own our voice??

      [–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Awesome idea. Make sure to sign up: https://www.trp.red

      [–]richpianoo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Hey cool registered. How come this is not being promoted?

      [–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I mean I think we are promoting it! I'm not entirely certain how people are missing it, since it's stickied in our addresses and on the sidebar and in a lot of EC's posts.

      [–]TheMadKnightRides 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Long time RP lurker here.

      This subreddit has helped me come to uncomfortable, but useful and transformative conclusions about my own life and society at large. It's helped me become a better version of myself and create positive momentum not only in my own life, but also in the lives of several people around me.

      That being said, is there any way we can take some action against this quarantining? Whether that's signing an open letter or a forum where we can share positive transformations that young men have experienced as a result of this forbidden knowledge; I feel compelled to contribute what I can to combat this shortsighted, inane act of censorship.

      There's been a lot of talk in this thread and others about the Streisand Effect and the effects censorship has on energizing a dormant base. I can unequivocally say that this has lit a fire for me. But how can we actually help?

      [–]TheMadKnightRides 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Also, would definitely like to find a solution to accessing TRP on mobile. If anyone has a workaround (other than Forums.Red and TRP.Red both of which seem to be a likely future for us anyway) please post it here so people can see!

      [–]SmamelessMe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The worst part is I always thought that MGTOW, MRA and TRP subreddits are eventually going to get purged, because of the eventual turn to family friendliness of companies that want to maximize their profit.

      But all this time I thought TRP will be the last light to go, since it deals "only" with social skills and self-improvement.

      I am still trying to wrap my head around why out of "openly political" MRA, "pointing out women are dangerous" MGTOW and "be the best you can, and become attractive to women as side effect" TRP, reddit decided to go for TRP's neck first.

      Where does that leave us? Did they try to test the waters of the manospehere, by pick up seemingly least political sub, to see what the reaction would be? Or do they see us as the most dangerous one, because we point out uncomfortable truths about female psychology?

      I always thought I would never involve myself with the political aspect of manospehere, sticking to self-improvement aspect of TRP, and self-preservation aspect of MGTOW. It always seemed to me that the "forces that be" only really had problem with the vocal political aspect of manosphere. Treating the self-improvement part of it with indifference, or at most as a butt of their jokes.

      But right now, it is starting to dawn on me that what they have a problem with is the idea of masculinity itself. Or rather, that no matter how progressive women want to be, they still find masculinity attractive. The MRA and MGTOW being a manifestation of that masculinity.

      Is it perhaps because they couldn't change women, they decided to change men?

      As it seems, we may not have the luxury of choosing to sit this one out.

      [–]Ratcheta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      To think I almost attended Stony Brook.. Granted, engineering is not "men's studies", but still.

      That said, I do not think anyone has the moral authority to declare their viewpoint correct without any supporting documentation from multiple, repeated experiments. And even then that doesn't give you the right to shut down opposition because your view may not hold forever as new evidence may come to light.

      The line between people shitposting insensitive jokes and discussing sensitive topics is fine but both should be allowed in their respective spaces. Your speech is free, but if you shout n-bombs in a predominantly black neighborhood, expect consequences. Shout it in private or among friends? No one should care.

      [–]Odins-left-eye 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Meh. I can't be the victim of abuse. This whole pity party shit doesn't fit our MO. We aren't MRAs; we're fucking vikings. We're the assholes that niceguys who consider themselves "victims" like to complain women always pick over them.

      At least we used to be, back when I used this sub frequently. I guess I shouldn't presume what it's become in the past year.

      [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 28 points29 points  (0 children)

      You are incorrect, though sloppy thinking.

      You cannot be the victim of abuse. Other men can.

      It is not size and strength that protect you from abuse. It is your social ability to stand up for yourself, or leave. The fact that some men do not have this ability is the sort of reason that TRP exists at all. We are here to teach men to seize back their own power and teach them to stand up for themselves.

      The goal is to turn men back into fucking vikings.

      Now do you understand?

      [–]rukken 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Is the quarantine gone? I can view this on my phone. Wasn't possible when quarantined

      [–]DancesWithPugs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      As long as it says 0 subscribers it is quarantined.

      [–]Starfuckingman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Damn, easy on the guy. He might get mad and press the button delete by a mistake lmao. And yes, I know we are ready for it but man, I love our reddit redpill community.

      [–]RegularExcuse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't think you should insult them for admitting they were wrong, always encourage people to admit mistakes and don't punish them when they do otherwise they get resentful. Good luck.

      [–]choontang -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      u/spez is a fucking homo, he gets butt fucked by Tyrone every night

      [–]ahackercalled4chan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      c'mon now. you know Tyrone has better standards than that...

      [–]Demiurge_Decline -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

      I see this differently. I think there is a REDPILL admin Mole or two at heart that secretly decided to act as a double agent and place that particular tongue and cheek link for two-fold reasonings. This tells me the ban does not come from the lower admins but from those even higher up and the admins themselves more than likely men have read as much information and are advent readers of REDPILL. Thus secret followers of the ideaology. So reading between the lines, the link/line was purposely put there as tongue and cheek against reddits higher uppers by a redpill Mole only to force it back down quickly. Which is what they wanted anyway. Thanks Admin. This is "Q" level espionage. I like it. We have some insiders but I fear its not enough...

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      proxy war for the battles men should be fighting on their own anyways.

      Beat into your head via sidebar is the idea that you can't listen to what she says, watch what she does.

      I refuse to put that aside, when some rando san fran guy is telling me nonsense. That link affected me as much as the reddit ads do

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