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Rant/Venting"but... come on guys, shape up! YOU have to save Europe." Former Swedish feminist now demands men save Sweden from the ravages caused by the philosophy she's only recently disavowed. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by worldnewsrager

tl/dr I tried to keep this short, I failed. read/don't read. Link to source at bottom.

So, this is a few days old, so someone may have commented on it already, and, if so, you know... ignore this.

I infrequently listen to Stefan Molyneux's philosophy shows on YT, but I happened to come across one tonight that I figured I'd listen to while throwing down on some game.

For about the first 40~ minutes everything was pretty standard fare. Back and forth cataloging exactly how fucked-up Sweden is, and appears to be, currently thanks to fanatical implementation of multi-culturalism. Though, not 'multi-culturalism' in itself per se, we all know the elephant in the room is Islamic (dis)immigration.

Around the 45-minute mark, they start delving into what actually has to/needs to be done to repair the situation, and Stefan cites a rather general attitude I've seen on social media which is that, many men "would love to save Europe, they just don't want to save the feminists along with with it. Men have been so beaten upon by feminism for so long, I think, at this point, many view it almost like saving their enemies from the consequences of their enemies' own misconceptions and hostilities."

Which I agreed with for the most part. It's a concept I share. I wouldn't piss on a SJW to put them out. The guest's response though, was mindbogglingly sexist. I mean upon hearing it, I was so dumb-struck by the sheer, unadulterated, solipsism and sexism of her remarks. I actually had to close the game, and run-back the tape to make sure I heard it right. And I had.

Now, the guest, is a Swedish journalist which means, at one point, she was a card-carrying feminist, pro-multi-culti SJW snowflake. Corroborating this is also early in the video, she actually makes the comment that, had anyone told her 20-years ago that Sweden would be where it is now, she "would have laughed in your face and said you were crazy". And also recounts stories from the mid-70's of being a young free-lover and stringing various dudes along, and then denying them sex at the last minute and them 'being okay with it.' She actually referred to that 'era' as 'really, the golden age.' The golden age of Cultural-Marxism I'm sure. So, as far as i can tell, she was fully on-board with the whole "New Society" ideology until only the last few years. You don't generate a career in Sweden otherwise. There is no notion there of 'loyal opposition'.

But her response to Stefan's argument was staggering. "yea.. and i can kinda understand that attitude (rolls eyes), but.... come on guys, shape up! YOU have to save Europe. And when you do, you will also crush feminism! And the women, they will be soooooooo sooooo thankful and grateful for saving europe. for saving their opportunities of being women, and being equal, but not being feminists. And they won't be feminists anymore. (Stefan laughing and looking off camera at this point) It's up to you guys. You gotta save Europe for us, and leave the feminists to me.. I will deal with them."

I had to stop the tape there. I mean WHAT!? This is exactly what Stefan was talking about. This fucking lifelong feminist has come to realize how deeply and how irrevocably the philosophy she believed in and perpetuated has FUCKED UP an entire continent, and the only thing this "strong, independent don't need no man, free-lover" does is DEMAND men fix it. DEMANDS.

Now, this likely childless, husbandless, waste of good white skin actually, like tries to shame men into what? Getting themselves killed doing what can only be assumed to be deporting the suspected million muslim immigrants. or overthrowing the government. And for what? So she is protected from the consequences of her life-choices, that she only now, once it's hitting her in the face, realizes might have been in err?

So much for equality, strength and independence, right? When the metal meets the meat, these Western 'feminists' abandon their principles as fast as they adopted them. And demand that another generation of men throw themselves in the grinder on their behalf.

When big-daddy State is rendered impotent, look who they come running back to.

I don't really know what else to say. I just couldn't believe how mindlessly and effortlessly this woman just reverts to 17th-century damsel-mentality and demands men save European women from themselves. And it just falls out of her mouth like she was born to say it. And this is supposed to be one of the smart ones. I'm just gobsmacked at the simple-mindedness. Couldn't even finish the interview. I'm just choked with rage at how little this woman values men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25VVmCviVao


[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 194 points195 points  (48 children)

she...recounts stories from the mid-70's of being a young free-lover and stringing various dudes along, and then denying them sex at the last minute and them 'being okay with it.

And then...

"yea.. and i can kinda understand that attitude (rolls eyes), but.... come on guys, shape up! YOU have to save Europe. And when you do, you will also crush feminism! And the women, they will be soooooooo sooooo thankful and grateful for saving europe. for saving their opportunities of being women, and being equal, but not being feminists. And they won't be feminists anymore. (Stefan laughing and looking off camera at this point) It's up to you guys. You gotta save Europe for us, and leave the feminists to me.. I will deal with them."

The stringing along continues. Come kick the football, Charlie Brown. She promises she won't pull it away at the last minute.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 103 points104 points  (6 children)

The stringing along continues. Come kick the football, Charlie Brown. She promises she won't pull it away at the last minute.

That's hilariously appropriate.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 57 points58 points  (5 children)

I wish I had realized as a kid that the ongoing situation of Charlie Brown, Lucy, and the football is a great analogy for how betas interact with women.

[–]aanarchist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

yea now that i think about it, that was the first red pill truth we were ever exposed to as kids, or close to it.

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    [–]mos_basik[🍰] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    My understanding of Peanuts is that Charlie Brown is the closest character to a Shultz self-insert, Lucy is based on Shultz's first, divorced, wife and Peppermint Patty is based on his second wife.

    So that reading is likely not far from the truth.

    [–]TryDoingSomethingNew 17 points18 points  (2 children)

    How kind of her to almost "throw men a bone." Really, how so very kind.

    Laughable, and pathetic. I'm glad so many here would be able to easily call out the bullshit when a woman says similar, as one day it may happen here (USA) as well.

    [–]FEMIMARXIST 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    I'm only a few seconds into the video and her countenance already gives it all away:

    The arched eyebrows, squinting dead eyes, slightly pulled smirk.

    This woman is a born and bred manipulative sociopath.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 12 points13 points  (34 children)

    perfect analogy.

    but she does have a point behind all the bullshit: We do have to fix this shit. Men let feminism in and only we can get it out.

    What are the other options? Letting the Muslim horde keep coming? Letting all of this bullshit spread?

    We stop it now while it's bad or be forced to stop it when it's too late.

    [–]RedPillAnonymous 14 points15 points  (4 children)

    Let the Muslim horde keep coming is exactly what we do. Let them rape and ravage until they destroy all the multi culti feminist and manginas. Let them destroy and pillage until the last morons head is removed from their ass. Let them put every bitch in a burqua. When there is no one left to shout "racist" or "islamophobe". When Noone will arrest you for "hate" crimes. Then and only then do you drive the sand n!&&€r's out. Until then, watch and laugh.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    this got really racist, really fast

    am i just a normal nigger? or am i cool because i post here?

    [–]RedPillAnonymous 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Honestly I'm not even advocating for racism. I wouldn't care if a bunch of liberal middle easterners immigrated to the west because they thought their own culture sucked and wanted to join this one. But if it's only economic opportunity they are after, they are basically cultural gold diggers.

    Also, big difference between black people and niggers, just like I'm sure you'd agree there is a difference between gays and fags, and Mexicans and wet backs.

    Edit. I'm Mexican, but I think Donald Trump can kick out all the illegals he wants. And build a wall.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    1.The problem is the Middle Easterners we get are either the rich ones who aren't really practicing Muslims anymore---they're Christians the way women who say they're "spiritual" are---or they're the ones who don't acclimate at all.

    20% of American Muslims see suicide bombing as useful on occasion. 50% of British Muslims think Gays and Gay Marriage should be illegal.

    2.The problem is we don't treat them like they're different. The Left uses us to serve them and their fascism, and the Right gets mad at us because of the Left.

    This is why we vote Trump. He cares about Americans and that's all any of us want.

    3.First well known secret is Mexicans don't vote. Second well known secret is that Mexicans vote for Trump alot.

    [–]makeshift98 9 points10 points  (20 children)

    It's simple. We deport all Muslims and send them back to their country along with feminists. Any women wishing not to become halal meat for Ahmed has to give up their rights to vote and own property.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 15 points16 points  (19 children)

    I think sending all feminists to an actual rape culture and around actual Muslims would be a fantastic learning experience for them

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 8 points9 points  (17 children)

    It would not change a thing, in their minds. They will march along their solipsistic and hypergamic highway taking any inch in any direction they can. You've seen it, we all have. Corner a woman with logic and rational thought (even if you are showing them how to achieve what they want) and they will kick the hamster in the ass to get it spinning faster. If that doesn't work, out come the tears. If that doesn't work, out come the fangs and claws.

    [–]hectortamerofwhores 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Good luck pulling that shit with Achmed the Terrorist hahahahaha

    [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 1 point2 points  (15 children)

    yes, once hypergamy is unleashed it's very hard to put it away.

    but what other options do you have than to try? let islam take over? let all the good parts of American Culture die?

    I'm seriously asking what do you think we do?

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 4 points5 points  (6 children)

    I wish I had an answer for you. The more I see, the more I am actually afraid that our (I'm a "Murkan) culture is completely fucked. People got too greedy in the 80's and 90's and trashed the middle class. The gov't is completely purchased and inefficient. Society is in the gutter and women run the show, burying any male that shows any gumption or backbone in social male shaming and bluepillery. (FB is the most BP feminist platform imaginable and the Tinders and OKCs only promote and allow women to get all the male attention they could possibly imagine with Chad sex on the sly at any given moment) Sure, we can live RP truth and keep the women in our own lives from destroying us but on a national scale we have truly dropped the ball. It will take decades to repair if we can repair it at all whilst battling the economy/job scarcity/male shaming/climate fuckage/oil to sustainable shifts and day to day grind. As for immigration and Muslim culture, hopefully Americans can learn from northern Europe's mistakes, as they unfold in front of our eyes this decade. American women have emasculated their men in a misguided attempt at gaining power. They will have to back up a bit before men will stand up and actually govern correctly.

    [–]RedPillAnonymous 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    Let the Muslims put hypergamy away for us. The Muslims aren't strong, the idiots letting them in are the real enemy. Corporations just want cheap labor. Arrogant wealthy fools figure they can lock themselves in cities of wealth and rule Muslims like the Saudis do. When the system letting them in wrecks itself the actual Muslims will be easy to deal with.

    [–]Betamax69 168 points169 points  (6 children)

    Wasn't there a bit in one of Bill Burrs routines where he said if there had been feminists on the Titanic they would have twisted their spiky dyed hair into little girl pigtails and ran to the lifeboats. That's what's happening in Europe now.

    [–]SantonioHolmes 115 points116 points  (0 children)

    "There are no feminists in a house fire." -Bill Burr

    [–]1FunAndFreedom 21 points22 points  (1 child)

    [–]Betamax69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yep that's what I remembered!

    [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    He says there's no feminists in a house fire

    https://youtu.be/XlR6CdJtRWM?t=1m44s

    [–]Betamax69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yep that's what I remembered!

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    [–]Grasshopper21 133 points134 points  (34 children)

    Feminism doesn't want equality. Never has, never will.

    [–]CornyHoosier 42 points43 points  (32 children)

    Does any group want equality or do they just want to be the best/have more power?

    [–]1PrinceofSpades 36 points37 points  (17 children)

    Is it possible for humans to be selfless? An individual can be, sure.

    But can a society? An entire population?

    There will always be those of us who move the pieces to benefit ourselves.

    [–]RojoEscarlata 19 points20 points  (14 children)

    For humans no, for men yeah. Selflessness, honor, duty are male abstractions and don't exist in the female mind.

    [–]Libertarian-Party 47 points48 points  (13 children)

    Dont want to break the circlejerk, but many, many men would he happy to fuck over their fellow man if only it meant a higher position in life.

    [–]manslutalt 27 points28 points  (3 children)

    I think the point TRP tries to make is that there are men who wouldn't.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Any dude reading here that hasn't learned it's better to build a neighbor up rather than beat him down isn't very far into his red pill enlightenment and is definitely no where close to being the best version of himself. That mentality is adolescent at best.

    [–]icecow 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Selflessness, honor, duty are male abstractions and don't exist in the female mind.

    I don't want to break the circlejerk either, but...

    Also, these male abstractions are tightly coupled with a lack of mindfulness of understanding how others think, and being chump beta who's in denial of his own situation.

    A man who toots his own horn about being Selflessness, honor, duty, etc has a great statistical chance of being a good guy/beta/kill-the-family-then-himself sort of guy. I'm sorry, that sounded like a personal attack on Rojo, I didn't mean that at all, just trying to drive my point.

    Of course these are quality traits, but to praise them in isolation and as if they are a solution in themself is problematic.

    [–]RojoEscarlata 5 points6 points  (6 children)

    Don't breaking anything, being men doesn't make you inherently good or bad, that's stupid.

    Self sacrifice, which honor and duty come from is only a part of male nature, women can't be selfless thanks to solipsism.

    And if you quote women sacrificing themselves for children/lovers I'd suggest reading some Nietzsche

    [–]callingouthipsters 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Women can be selfless but only to their children. The order of love goes men for women, women for children, children for animals. Or, for most SJWs, women for cats, cats for themselves.

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    [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 4 points5 points  (6 children)

    I suppose anarchists, by definition, don't really want power.

    [–]CornyHoosier 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    Only because they feel they have none ... they're anarchists!

    [–]AmazonExplorer 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    It's a fundamental mechanic of groups in general. The purpose of creating the American nation is to uplift the American people. It cards only for the people within that group, no concern for those outside it. The purpose of sub groups, be it new atheist, feminist, Catholic, black, is to uplift that group above others.

    People within the same group can be selfless with each other, because they all benefit from supporting the group. Helping the group helps themselves. Thus the more intermingled the group becomes and stronger the group is. A group sharing blood and familial ties is stronger than a group united by a vague sense of a ideology.

    This is hard to realize because as Westerners we've been indoctrinated from birth that individuality is the sources of our strength. Which it can be, but having strength of community is far more important.

    [–]TheColorOfWater 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Group thinking has caused much horror in the world. I prefer individualism.

    [–]TheInevitableHulk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    A mix of both is ideal else you end up with mass industrial age sweatshops or giving all your food away so your "comrade" can get his gvt provided tractor

    [–]Grasshopper21 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Does every other group constantly claim to be based on and work exclusively for the pursuit of equality?

    [–]InformalCriticism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The Federalist Papers called these groups Factions, and I think it's high time the term returned to common parlance.

    [–]TryDoingSomethingNew 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    It's always about what will benefit them at any given moment. Then revert back to concentrating on their own agendas; damage to others be damned.

    Never, yes...NEVER what is best for all or the greater good.

    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, she may as well have said "this cake is delicious, but when I eat it it goes away. Men should fix that for me."

    [–]RojoEscarlata 23 points24 points  (0 children)

    just women for you, you can't blame them for doing exactly what we expect them to do. Running to men when shit hits the fan is literally one of their evolutionary instinctive impulses.

    Think of Mika Brzezinski, she was full on anti Trump before San Bernardino, but after that she felt so scared that she went full on "muh children" that did a complete 180 and became pro Trump.

    Feminism wasn't created by women, it's just one of the ugly faces of the multicultural disease that is Marxism, women just happen to be always the ones to fall hardest for the equality meme, like those bonobos communist fuckers.

    Which it what it all comes down to, a very dangerous and toxic ideology is being pushed in so many ways and forms that people are so used to that no longer see it.

    TL;DR: women vote was a mistake

    [–]scamper_22 51 points52 points  (3 children)

    You really have to screw up real bad as a society to have men thinking like this. I look back at my former self and think yep... how the hell did I end up here. I would have risked my life and be there to take care of women. That was me. How I was raised. Almost instinctual.

    Now? The hell am I going to risk my life for such people. I say that, but the reality is I would still take care of my friends sisters... and if that's the case most of these women will still have men protectors.

    Heck, even beyond that, extreme groups will come to defend their women!

    In either case, I'm almost immune for the ridiculousness of it all. In the sense that most women talk simply to get what they want. When society is safe and you don't really need men... talk to maximize that. When society is unsafe... talk to get that. And she knows it will work a lot of the time. It's pretty rational.

    What it isn't in some underlying virtue of a lifestyle, but since when do we expect that? Well I did at one point :P But now... it's sadly clear as day.

    [–]StraightGlueWater 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I white knighted for a girl in a "domestic dispute".

    She was lowlife scum, and so was her man. Should've left them to their antics. But, I felt I should do the right thing and tell him to leave her alone at the bar.

    I got punched in the face and got a 24 hour suspension of my alcohol privileges (this was at a resort) for being involved in an altercation. The dude sucker punched me and his friends escorted him off before I could get a punch in.

    The next day I spotted that loving couple together. Neither said anything apologetic to me. No "Thanks for coming to help me." or "Sorry for punching you."

    Nope, just a sore jaw and a sober day of vacation. A day to reflect and think "What the fuck, why did I get involved?"

    Luckily for me, I learned the lesson then and there. Plenty of white knights learn this lesson on the other end of a gun, and it's the last lesson they learn before becoming white knight corpses.

    [–]scamper_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, I see it much clearer now. Western women are not ashamed to express their wants. A man might want to be independent and handle his own shit. But that's typically not a woman.

    If they really don't want to be in a situation, they will tell someone or leave.

    As you found out, she was with this guy and was fine with how he treated her. It might not have been ideal, but she was used to it and she got enough out of the relationship for it to be a positive. So who are you to intervene?

    I learned that lesson as well. You only screw up your own life if you try and white knight.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorStories_of_Red 48 points49 points  (13 children)

    Put simply: "All you betas go die for me, after having supported me all these years in my fiscal cocoon of state payments disguised as 'Salary' I rode the CC, and now I just want an easy few more decades before I die."

    I would tell those guys to laugh their asses off, buy a ticket to Thailand, and totally check out, unless they too have found a way to get some easy state money and game women. There is no way I would fight to protect Europe from anyone at this point.

    [–]vagbutters 15 points16 points  (8 children)

    Couldn't agree more. This is when/where the men of Europe have a chance to make a statement against feminism. Let the whiteknights/beta males sacrifice themselves for some big cause. Protect your own interests and don't aid the feminist whores at all.

    [–]worldnewsrager[S] 17 points18 points  (7 children)

    Honestly, had european men did this 80-years back, marxism would have never infected Europe. I wrote about this just the other day in fact, how this was basically the fault of three generations of western men being annihilated in pointless wars and leaving their progeny in the incapable hands of destitute widows, gay uncles and pacifistic academics.

    I actually mentioned at one point that 'short of a virus or epidemic that only affects social-democrats, the average man is just going to have to ride this out.' Maybe this is that virus.

    I do believe a renaissance is coming though. The majority of people just aren't happy.

    [–]vagbutters 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    The misandry bubble does seem to exist, and I can see rising sentiment lately among all males. When you send beta males off to die and suffer in wars only to come back to their women fucking Chad instead of them, they get pushed further and further to the edge.

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      [–]worldnewsrager[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      doesn't sound weird at all, they host the E.U., they've turned it into a puppet union by being the only economy with money, Merkel's influence is apparent in the enforcement of a number of EU 'laws'.

      [–]1Jax77789 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      Interesting comment.

      I am pondering about the future of western Europe and whether to flee or fight.

      You are totally right that it is idiotic to fight for feminism and this cunt can go to hell.

      However, Western Europe has to be saved. Islam is nothing but utter shit.

      What's more, it is a form of feminism in that it organizes mating according to the Pareto Rule ( 80/20), the rest of the men get to marry their cousins, this cause 1) the 85 IQ of Muslim countries 2) a permanent state of war mongering and economic failure.

      What happens when the muzzies get control over Western armies and weapon systems ? It is not like you can let it all burn and watch it from the other side of the world. You will flee a problem that will come at you eventually. The muslim problem has to be dealt with before they get too numerous. Past that point it is nuclear WW3.

      And in response to several comments below. Sure, the average Euro is a beta cuck but they are far from stupid. Most people today have a negative opinions of muslims, even socialists and "liberals" ; in my country applications for gun ownership have gone through the roof and we are not very gun friendly. People enlist in throngs in defense related activities, even the army here has seen a substantial increase of volunteers. The thing is, they keep their mouths shut lest they be ostracized. NO ONE likes the muslims in Europe except the muslims themselves and some hard core lefties. People are simply fed up and it will only take a few more terrorist attacks and several election cycles to get the show on the road. We will make quick work of these turds.

      Beyond that, I think that the entire middle east should be Westernized, by force, in the way Nazi Germany was denazifed after WW2, otherwise these muzzombies will keep coming forever.

      [–]TheGatherHunter 104 points105 points  (22 children)

      Yeah, okay. Then when the men are done dying and Sweden is safe, feminism will come right back like it was before.

      I hope my Swedish brothers don't buy into this BS and handle the feminist problem themselves, rather than letting that shrill woman deal with it. You can't expect women to handle themselves.

      [–]snobocracy 98 points99 points  (15 children)

      Feminism is literally AIDS.

      These Muslims aren't a problem to deal with. They're superstitious, uneducated, illiterate, dependant on welfare and generally plain dumb to boot.

      But our civilizational immune system, which would usually round up these criminal immigrants, has been stunted by feminists who have convinced the world that any form of masculine energy and will to protect your family and nation is evil.

      [–]TryDoingSomethingNew 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      I prefer what Milo says: "Feminism is cancer."

      [–]whenfoom 34 points35 points  (3 children)

      Holy shit. You're right. The essence of feminism is to make a country a) unable to defend itself b) detached from the roots that made it strong in the first place.

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      Someone should just walk in and take over sweden; it wouldn't take much.

      [–]Elodrian 64 points65 points  (0 children)

      Someone already did. That's the problem.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 15 points16 points  (4 children)

      You got this from /pol/, or at least this was on /pol/.

      Anyways, /pol/ is always right, so, carry on, brother.

      [–]TRPShill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      beat me to it. pol is home

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        [–]Dronitto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        no no, accepting feminism is like fucking someone with aids, knowing it. aids is more like muslim 'refugees', welfare for mothers, bailiff for any man after divorce ecc

        [–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (2 children)

        Until feminism and feminist attitudes, and SJWs, and all the PC bullshit is dealt with, is the culture worth fighting for?

        [–]neveragoodtime 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        Exactly, let's see if she can actually root out feminism and create a society that respects men, and then men will naturally defend the civilization without even being asked. It's like when a girl suggests you clean the bathroom while she cleans the kitchen. 15 minutes later the bathroom is done and she's just sitting there watching TV.

        [–]bluedrygrass 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        I hope my Swedish brothers don't buy into this BS and handle the feminist problem themselves,

        From what i've seen on various forums, there's close to zero hope on that front. Sweden males are always the one replying with "you may be partially right, but it's not as bad as it seems" "your culture doesn't let you see clearly" "i'm sorry you don't realize how inherently racist that is", and etc. etc. etc.

        The brainwashing is total.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Reminds me of the kid on the playground that talks mean shit to bigger kids while he thinks his boys have his back, only to piss and start screaming for them when he turns to find they are nowhere to be found. As soon as he is safe behind his friends again, the shit talking starts again.

        What we are seeing in Sweden is the point at which the other kids get tired of this kids loud mouth and stand idly by while he gets the shit kicked out of him.

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        [–]e2npau 51 points52 points  (4 children)

        I think this thread perhaps gives Ingrid a little bit less credit than she deserves.

        She was the ONLY journalist in Sweden that spoke up against false rape and pedophilic accusations against men that were running amok in Sweden some 10 years ago.

        [–]okkyle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Right. Ingrid isn't exactly Peggy Sue-1950's housewife, but she's not a feminist, she's been railing against SJW's for a while

        [–]TheGatherHunter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Perhaps she just misspoke, but she showed a sort of gynocentrism that is alarming.

        come on guys, shape up! YOU have to save Europe. And when you do, you will also crush feminism! And the women, they will be soooooooo sooooo thankful and grateful for saving europe. for saving their opportunities of being women, and being equal, but not being feminists

        She's using the age old manipulation tactic of promising feminine affection for men risking their lives. Do you genuinely believe that gratitude will ever happen? I don't. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if those same men are called racist.

        It's all false promises, and this whole situation of men being shamed into solving every problem themselves is anything but equality.

        [–]Sdom1 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        I think this thread perhaps gives Ingrid a little bit less credit than she deserves.

        That's putting things mildly.

        [–]e2npau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Pehaps a bit of an understatement ...

        [–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 24 points25 points  (11 children)

        Everyone seems to think that the question of Swedish men "stepping up" to save their country is a matter of intent, that they "don't want to" but "should want to". I propose that in the majority of case, it's instead of question of ability.

        If the majority of them has been raised and told all their life to be sensitive, caring, "respectful towards women", the masculinity is toxic and violent, an that is a "bad thing", how many do you think would know how to save their country, if they wanted to? Remember the response after Cologne: men went to "march against rape" in miniskirts and high heels. The shaming by women like Carlqvist certainly won't work on the minority who is somehow still masculine (thanks to TRP or other factors), but it also won't work on the majority, because even if they wanted to save Sweden, they wouldn't know how.

        It's game over for them, there is no cure. Even if politicians closed their doors to immigration today, you cannot teach men to be masculine overnight, you can't convince native Swedes to reproduce at replacement level and you won't convince the immigrants who are already there to not have large families.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 23 points24 points  (5 children)

        the question of Swedish men "stepping up" to save their country

        Emphasis mine. Sweden no longer belongs to the men, so it's not even their country to save. They have been dispossessed of their ancestral lands. To have ownership first you must have a robust understanding of property rights, both private and public. They've spent decades systematically deconstructing the ideological underpinnings of property rights via socialism. High tax rates and generous social programs basically blur the lines between private property and force everyone into an equitable economic class. Combine that with racial and ethnic guilt/masochism, the Swedes were basically begging to give their country away to anyone who was bold enough to take it from them. They found just such a population in Muslims.

        At this point I feel that Sweden ought to be forced to continue their program until they are utterly destroyed. The example of their hubris must serve as a reminder to uncucked European peoples to take better care what they advocate.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Very true. It’s a subtle change, and we've gone from an ownership model to a lease model in so many facets of our lives that we don’t even realize the impact. Home ownership is too expensive, everyone rents. Entertainment and media is no longer physical, and everyone is pushing towards the licensing model. Relationships are basically the "leased version” of marriage, and parents (especially fathers) don’t feel like they can have a say in how to raise their own kids. And of course, the migrations happening everywhere means people treat where they live as just a temporary home.

        We have quite a bit of science showing that people take more care of what they “own" versus what they are just “leasing”, in all those aspects. So you’re absolutely right, it’s not their country, it’s not their wives and children they would want to protect, it’s not their institutions they would want to preserve. They are all things these men have a passing affiliation with, so why would they even feel the need to care for them?

        At this point I feel that Sweden ought to be forced to continue their program until they are utterly destroyed

        That’s why I don’t say to people that I oppose the mass migrations. I do for my country of origin, but I fully support more and more migrants coming to Sweden and Germany.

        [–]bluedrygrass 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        The example of their hubris must serve as a reminder to uncucked European peoples to take better care what they advocate.

        Problem is, we already have "similar" examples of societies collapsed and disappered from history after becoming too decadent and progressive. Yes, allowing too freedom to women , becoming too much feminine, losing masculinity, letting themself sink into sexual deprevation.

        But all those examples are wasted. History teaches, but nobody listens. And thus, history always repeats itself.

        Sweden may burn to the ground, Germany, France, all the socialist countries will simply shrung and say "their fault; they weren't true progressives/socialist/random buzzword".

        [–]Sdom1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        So an entire people shouldn't be allowed to save themselves so it can be an example of how right you were? Come on, listen to yourself. And if anything, if they got the ship back on course that's actually more strongly indicative that your ideas were correct.

        [–]makeshift98 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        He said he supports their right to be suicidal maniacs; I do as well. It's only when they learn the cost of their terrible decisions that they will begin to take appropriate action.

        [–]Albacorewing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I think you are right. Centuries from now, historians will remark that in 1975 in Sweden, it was just a question of time till someone laid them low.

        [–]Dronitto 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        Remember the response after Cologne: men went to "march against rape"

        Yeah, german cucks march with heels on, the muslims rapists get no sentence fuckin ridiculous, Europe is crazy, the worst part is i live here.

        [–]Sdom1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        It's going to get a lot crazier before it's done. A lot of people will die in the fighting, and a lot of those cucks will have to be made an example of because you know they'll work for the other side.

        And yes, what I'm saying is horrible, but that's why armies always had the death penalty for deserting. There have always been cucks.

        [–]Sdom1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        If the majority of them has been raised and told all their life to be sensitive, caring, "respectful towards women", the masculinity is toxic and violent, an that is a "bad thing", how many do you think would know how to save their country, if they wanted to?

        Not all Swedish men are feminine. I've known some who definitely were not. If anything they tend to be big and solid, and all they need is the right motivation. Eventually they're going to be dealing with horrible guerilla warfare in their urban centers, and at that point you'll see a lot of Swedish men be born again hard.

        [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

        Bill Burr: "See what I’m saying? where are all those feminists then? You can’t find ‘em! You have no feminists in a house fire. You can take the most hardcore feminists. You know some chick right in your face. “You chauvinistic son of a bitch”, you know. Little short little haircut, you know. Second those flames break out, she’ll twist those little hairs into little pigtails. “Ooo. I’m just a girl. I wanna go play jump rope.”

        [–]eddiae 14 points15 points  (7 children)

        this is just a male fantasy of the savior that will come back and save the day, women are too busy getting fucked and drunk in clubs to see whats happening in europe, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDSwTQHZGZM

        [–]okkyle 11 points12 points  (6 children)

        Damn man, something about that video is very demoralizing. I'm not German, but goddamn. What have Western men allowed their women to become?

        [–]BlackMwoyo 3 points4 points  (5 children)

        From a sad African I'm telling you they've allowed them to become whores.

        [–]PowerVitamin 6 points7 points  (4 children)

        Let's all be fair, the American ghetto has been a foreshadowing of these events 10 years earlier. The black man had to go through feminism and the red pill before the white man.

        [–]2Overkillengine 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        We can all thank Welfare for that. Women have always had to choose between men in the archetypes of "Daquan" and "Carlton".

        Before welfare, choosing Daquan meant risking abject poverty and starvation in exchange for being able to ho it up. Choosing Carlton meant at least some economic security in exchange for acting like an acceptable wife.

        After welfare, a woman effectively gets paid to ho it up with Daquan and does not have to act like a good wife. Carlton only gets Rosy Palmer until he gets fed up and decides to change his name to Daquan too.

        Modern welfare is dysgenic.

        [–]randarrow 13 points14 points  (6 children)

        "...all the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!'... and I'll whisper 'no.'"

        [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 28 points29 points  (4 children)

        I feel like women have an almost Biological need to cause problems for men. The more problems they cause the more opportunities they have for assessing men's problem solving skills.

        The classic example is: That guy did x to me (after I lead him on) you should do something about it.

        The problem is that feminism has made women not worth the prize. So now women can deal with the consequences of their actions up to and including getting culturally enriched by Mohammed and friends on the streets of Stockholm.

        [–]okkyle 12 points13 points  (1 child)

        Absolutely.

        Men love peace and calm. They know they're less at risk under peaceful conditions and can direct their energies to more constructive pursuits.

        Women subconsciously love conflict. Conflict allows women to find out who the winners are.

        [–]StraightGlueWater 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Women love drama in their lives. Many women derive a sense of value and importance from the drama in their lives, and they also get off on pretending they are above the drama.

        It's so overdone that it's hardly worth making fun of anymore; the trope of the girl who claims to hate drama yet revels in it and creates it at any point possible.

        [–]MakeEmSayAyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        That's some really good theorizing that seems true.

        The current theory is that they want strange dick and DNA but I think you might be right.

        It's probably a little of both factors.

        [–]razormachine 70 points71 points  (112 children)

        "yea.. and i can kinda understand that attitude (rolls eyes), but.... come on guys, shape up! YOU have to save Europe.

        Well she obviously does not understand. She says man should shape up... like this is some small problem and man should just snap out of it. Woman always take men for granted. If a woman is in danger, man should help her out, if a country is in danger, men should throw away their lives to save the country.

        But that doesn't work that way because...

        And for what?

        Yup... it takes a reeeeeeeealy good reason for somebody to risk his life.

        During WW2 16 000 000 americans served overseas. Number of deserters = 20 000. Only 1 in 800 of the soldiers had deserted. During Vietnam War 2 709 918 americans served in Vietnam. Number of deserters = 50 000. 1 in 54 of the soldiers had seserted. Man were drafted for those two wars. Man for Afganistan and Iraq weren't drafted they were profesional militaryman. It is hard to calculate the number of deserters in those two wars for a number of reasons, but I did dig out this: "According to Wallace, in the summer of 2005, more than 18% of the soldiers in their first six months of service left under one of those four provisions."

        If WW3 started tomorow... a total war that drafts milions of man to die for their country. How many man from US, Germany, France, UK, Sweden... would be willing to participate.

        Lets just take a moment to see what western man have at the stake.

        1. Man go to war and die. Western society is saved, females can still be equal, they are free to ride dick until they are in the 30's then marry a beta guy and cheat on him and divorce him for his money. Also as an added + SJW's get another reason to bash man.

        2. Man do nothing. Islam takes over the west. Western man convert to Islam. We have to stop eating bacon and can't drink anymore. "Ladies" however... they have to wear those hijabs and make us sandwitches.

        Now I do love bacon... but not that much.

        [–]Grasshopper21 39 points40 points  (30 children)

        This is the weirdest avocation of Islam

        [–]razormachine 38 points39 points  (21 children)

        Well...

        Traditional western society > Islam society > Feminist western society

        Feel free to correct me on this one.

        EDIT: corrected the symbols.

        [–]bluedrygrass 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        How about "neither one"? Both socialistic and islamistic societies are simply unlivable. I don't think you have any idea of how shitty islamic countries are. The corruption, the nepotism, the sheer violence, the laziness, the paranoia, the inbreeding.

        Why do you think islamists are so eager to go live in western countries? Because it's a better life to be a hobo in the western than an average citizen under an islamic state.

        [–]razormachine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Well... I was joking about the whole living in Islamic state shit. But I still think that it is better for a man to live in an islamic state then in a feminazi-socialistic state.

        Yeah, Islamists are eager to go and live in western countries. But western countries hand out money to them, they do not hand out money to european man. They generaly avoid EU countries that do not hand out money, and free housing to them (you should have seen how scared they were on the prospect of getting stucked in those countries).

        What I was serious about was not fighting for those countries if they refuse to change their policies regarding man. If I for instance lived in Sweden... and the goverment was like "young man should go to war and die for their country, but we are still keeping our precious system" I would say go f... yourself, pack my bags and leave to another country where man are appreciated.

        Backslash in Sweden has happened, and it is happening all over the EU. Me and countless other man are fighting for the changes. But it has yet to be seen if those changes are just temporary.

        [–]Grasshopper21 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        Your symbols are backwards

        [–]TacoNinjaSkills 9 points10 points  (10 children)

        Feminist western society doesn't want to imprison or kill me for being an atheist...so there is that.

        [–]razormachine 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        We will make our own Islam in which you will be severly shamed for being an atheist and not joining the exclusive club of "happy extremist bearded guys who treat woman like shit and have a fucking great time".

        All you have to do is lie that you do so because of religion.

        You will change your mind... in time.

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          [–]Sdom1 5 points6 points  (6 children)

          Go read about what happens when ISIS takes over a Christian village. BIG FUCKING HINT - the men are not usually offered the opportunity to convert. They watch their wives and children be raped, and are killed in front of them. Yeah, that's so much better than Trigglypuff.

          [–]Terapia_Tapioco 26 points27 points  (21 children)

          Man do nothing. Islam takes over the west. Western man convert to Islam. We have to stop eating bacon and can't drink anymore. "Ladies" however... they have to wear those hijabs and make us sandwitches.

          Well, since Islam is not centralized like Catholicism, in theory we can still invent our own brand of Islam which doesn't forbid pork and alcohol.

          There already are some shari'a schools who don't forbid beer or drugs because the Qur'an only mentions wine, so I guess we could manage to find other loopholes in the system for our convenience.

          [–]razormachine 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Not only that we could manage to find loopholes in the system, but we would find shitloads of loopholes in the system :D

          [–]Dronitto 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          Fighting feminism with islam is like fighting cancer with getting a stroke

          [–]MakeEmSayAyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Well no, you'd still have cancer.

          Islam DOES remove the feminist. It's like getting rid of a splinter on your finger by cutting off your entire arm, I'd say.

          [–]sharp7 3 points4 points  (6 children)

          Most muslim people <30 in first world countries already do this. My families muslim but all my guy cousins do whatever.

          [–]razormachine 2 points3 points  (5 children)

          Bosnian muslims certainly do not give a shit about most of these rules.

          They drink alcohol and eat pork.

          [–]sharp7 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Hah funny. I met a bosnian muslim girl. She was a complete fuck girl. All sorts of crazy drug problems and shit.

          [–]razormachine 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          I live in a country just next to bosnia. Bosnian girls are famous for giving pussy like there is no tomorow :)

          [–]Sdom1 2 points3 points  (5 children)

          in theory we can still invent our own brand of Islam which doesn't forbid pork and alcohol.

          And you would be branded heretics and slaughtered. Learn more about the history of Islam, their sectarian conflicts are brutal.

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            [–]razormachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Woman would still have the right to opinion on any matter.

            They would just lose the right to express that opinion.

            [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            I personally would never fight in any war unless that war was on my doorstep.

            [–]CornyHoosier 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            I'm not really about theocracy. Thanks though.

            [–]worldnewsrager[S] 8 points9 points  (9 children)

            i actually teetered on titling this post 'former-feminst surprised and indignant that European men don't rise to save her and the culture she helped create that doesn't value, reward, nor satisfy them." But opted to just go with the quote.

            Not to harangue your figures, but those were recruits that probably never even saw combat, they just went AWOL. Figure a week for reception, 9 weeks for training, another 9-14 weeks for AIT and that's 4 or more months right there. OSUT Infantry (for the Army, which combines uninterrupted BCT&AIT at a single location) is 14 weeks. Then you need all your JRTC-deployment training which was a couple weeks where you were hanging in the lurch.

            I wasn't infantry, I was in aviation and I never deployed, so I'm not certain, but I was pretty sure no one was assigned and reported to a deployed Unit without JRTC training or some additional form of preparatory training. I'd have to ask my friend who was infantry and deployed in Iraq around that time to be sure though.

            Most of that 18% is probably just training drop-outs and medical-chapters, not actually people that 'deserted.' I could be wrong though. I know we lost at-least 25% of the dudes in my BCT company and a handful in AIT aswell.

            [–]razormachine 2 points3 points  (6 children)

            "i actually teetered on titling this post 'former-feminst surprised and indignant that European men don't rise to save her and the culture she helped create that doesn't value, reward, nor satisfy them." But opted to just go with the quote."

            Well that sums it up pretty nicely.

            About the figures yup the deserters of WW2 and Vietnam are mostly guys who avoided draft. But still they are guys who "refused to serve".

            Numbers for Afganistan and Iraq are really hard to calculate. I should have been more clear 18% was for soldiers who left Iraq in the first 6 months, and that was at the peak. A number of them had real reasons like health issues, and a number of them used any excuse to get out. The realistic figures are probably around 5% overall... again it is hard to calculate the numbers.

            But this is profesional military. The real question is "if there was a total war tomorow, and countries started drafting young man en mass... how many would avoid drafting/desert".

            In US military are man who wanted to join the military. If there is a draft then you are calling the average able americans.

            And there is a great experiment on my mind. US military sends 10 000 drafting notices to 10 000 able americans to join the fight in Siria (as a joke) and counts the number of man who actualy show up.

            The situation in EU is even worse then in US.

            [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

            then you are calling the average able americans.

            the average amreican is too fat and out of shape to serve. pentagon describes it as reflexes of a 25 year old fighter pilot, physical shape of a 60 year old smoker.

            pentagon has known about it for a while, hence the focus on drones

            [–]worldnewsrager[S] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

            Wasn't the Pentagon, you're referring to Mission: Readiness' Too fat to fight report. Yea that was pretty damning, I actually wrote a blog about it, intertwined with the abysmal public school figures and the drug-war. That was probably 3-years ago, and fuck all has been done. Even back then it was so bad that the Army instituted a school to enlist men on warrant, put them through a GED course prior to BCT. U.S. is literally scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel regarding recruits. There's a reason why there's been a shift if relaxing of drug-policy and why they opened up all those MOS' to women a couple years back, and have been pushing for the women to now register with Selective Service, there's just no longer a large enough pool of male candidates.

            Apparently there are consequences for locking up two generations of kids on felony drug convictions: they can't join the army.

            [–]razormachine 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            Apparently there are consequences for locking up two generations of kids on felony drug convictions: they can't join the army.

            If there was a great need they would drop that low like a hot piece of metal. The more important question is just how much they would be interested in joining the war effort. Because even if you take a man, dress him up in a uniform, train him and give him a rifle. If his morale is low he will be one shitty soldier.

            [–]worldnewsrager[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            There is a great need, i assure you. I can only really speak about the Army, but since 2003, the standards of recruiting have been slashed into the core.

            Yes, you're correct that if we had a major-conflict or something, they could always fall back on the draft, but the issue is the army, in particular, doesn't want to mess with that and it's for the reasons you outline. That's why they've enjoyed the 'all volunteer army' for a few decades, and when they had such a plentiful crop of recruits, such that they could be discerning, it was all the better. That no longer exists though.

            The army is essentially shoe-horning volunteers into service that, even 10-years ago, they'd have never given a second look at. waiver after waiver after waiver. It used to be, that they could just go set up near a local high-school, talk to some kids, enlist them on split-ops and that'd be that. no fuss. The drug-war, and the militarization of public-schools, which is a by-product of the war on drugs, have dried that up. Add in entitlement culture circling like a buzzard, and you're where we are now.

            You have kids now that feel entitled to 10-years of secondary and p-secondary education, who think that not only should the education be free, but everything else along with it. Plus a stipend for spending cash, less they become 'burned out' by so much studying. And this is before they 'give back' in anyway. It has become the view, that simply being in college, IS giving back. They want a blank-check for 10-years or more of subsidized existence, and the notion that they be asked to do anything constructive in the interim is sacreligious.

            Regarding the army, the standards have dropped now to the point that soldiers are being required to read and write book-reports, because their levels of grammar and comprehension have been judged to be so low across the board that their ability to document and communicate effectively is debilitated. And these are the guys that are going to be managing the brunt of the day to day operations of the Army in 5 or 6-years. Much less war-fighting.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Too bad, I remember my old chiefs talking about judges telling them a tour of duty or a jail cell was the options for many

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              [–]bowie747 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              Places of the world where they can't eat bacon = Muslim / Jewish dominated Middle East and Africa

              Places of the world in a state of perpetual war and social/economic disquiet = Muslim / Jewish dominated Middle East and Africa

              Coincidence?

              [–]useyourmouth 3 points4 points  (4 children)

              Your willingness to submit to Islam is straight from Michel Houellebecq's predictions in his novel, Submission.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submission_(novel)

              [–]Dronitto 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              yeah, thats what awaits most of Europeans at this point

              [–]razormachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Well I was talking theoretically. "It is better to accept Islam then fight for feminist society".

              In reality things are not so grim. The socialists had pull the whole EU too far to the left, they didn't cared about the opinions of citizens who elected them to represent their wishes.

              The minds of the people are flexible, and as a result the whole EU is experiencing a hard turn to the right. This immigrant crisis may be the best thing that had happened to us because it is returning us to more traditional values.

              The feminists-socialists turn out to be quite dumb after all because they failed to acknowledge that their actions would result in a backslash.

              The Muslims who thought that EU countries will simply pay thousandths of euros to invaders until they are practically assimilated by their numbers were also wrong.

              Just about everybody ignored the possibility of the backslash.

              [–]1nzgs 5 points6 points  (11 children)

              or 3. Man fights islam and feminism at the same time, and defeats them both. This notion that muslims will convert us all is silly. They can't convert anyone except illiterate impoverished middle-easterners. They come to the west and fail to win over any western men so they end up living in ghettos. No one wants to employ them, no one wants to fuck them, no one wants them period. You can't conquer a civilisation when you're physically, mentally, culturally and militarily inferior.

              The only thing propping up the islamic problem is western feminism, which is on its last legs.

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              It's harder to convert a middle eastern Christian to Islam than it is to convert a white person.

              [–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 8 points9 points  (8 children)

              They can't convert anyone except illiterate impoverished middle-easterners

              Not entirely true, there are quite a few westerners who converted, I believe it's the religion that sees the most people converting into it. It's not large scale yet, but the other thing to take into account is that vast migrations like this one actually do impoverish an weaken the host country. If you are a young man living in France, for example, your job prospects are actually pretty bad (not entirely the cause of large-scale immigration, but it certainly hasn't helped). A man who can't get a job will look for economic opportunities in crime, and guess what groups are currently established in the criminal underworld?

              I don't want to be defeatist, I don't think all will be bad, but some countries are, in my opinion, beyond saving. Sweden certainly is one, France might be another, and Germany is making great strides in that direction.

              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

              Germany, I can't think of a more karmic kick to the balls in history.. Nearly one hundred years of building up its cultural identity, unification, and the rise and fall of the fascist party..

              Now you have white cucks like that idiot pierre vogel converting to Islam and let Muslims take control of their culture. Had a friend living in Germany and apparently it's "not PC" to stand up while taking a piss now (although I think he was living with leftist morons).

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                [–]worldnewsrager[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                lol ffs... so don't wildly piss on their toilets like your dick is a raging firehose. We here in the U.S. solved this 'problem' a generation or two ago without asking men to sit like dainty faggots while taking a piss: WIPING THE SEAT OFF. It even gave rise to humorous crafts for women to knit and embroider, and it is so prolific and engrained in the consciousness, it is now cliche' with more direct https://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/3336069677/

                [–]PowerVitamin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I mean, this was kind of brought on Germany by the deals that the UK made with Zionists and Americans. Either way, Germany was severely punished for WW1, even tho it was started by Austria, and severely punished for WW2 even though, Stalin was the one with the death camps and the countries invaded by Germany preferred the Nazi occupation to communism. The countries that traded with Germany off these, anglo-zionist sanctions, found them to be the most fair. There is even talk of this PC culture, filled with vice and decadence starting with jewish academics in Berlin. It all really comes down to a couple of colonial superpowers afraid of Germany's ability to grow so insanely strong in a miraculously short timespan. Hitler is said to have asked for peace with Britain, about 5 or 6 times. And refrained from returning bombs on British cities after German civilians were bombed because he did not think the UK was Germany's enemy. But, alas, all these colonial (semi-globalist) powers of Britain and France decided to ally with the globalists and thwart the potential popular dominance with Germany as a super power. So, now you have inherited the culture and philosophy of decadence, vice, and anti-nationalism. In the same manner, since the winners write history, nationalism has been blamed for the wars in Europe and will continue to take blame as long as the current winners still control the media, academia, cathedral, hollywood, centers of power.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                Yeah but look at the way of life over there aside from a few major cities (if you come from money).

                Nevermind the fact that you can bet your ass you'll be treated as a second class citizen (if that, probably more likely a slave) if you're a white or black non-muslim.

                [–]razormachine 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                I'm atheist. But I'm totally willing to act like I'm Muslim.

                Like a lot of Christians and Muslims do today anyway.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                You'll be second class citizen/slave status regardless if you're a white ethnic european.

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                  [–]Ducksfornipples2 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                  But Jews are Caucasian. Same with Arabs

                  [–]razormachine 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                  I have to disagree. If Islam takes over the Europe Jews are in some deep shit.

                  [–]Sdom1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  A lot of European Jews found themselves supporting Islamic immigration because they believed that any anti-islamic backlash would be like what happened to the Jews in the Middle Ages, and could lead to those things happening to them again.

                  So, in other words, even a really high-IQ population can make decisions that might be tactically understandable, but are disastrous long-term.

                  I don't think there was some big conspiracy, though, I just think they reacted and didn't consider the long term effects.

                  [–]razormachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  It is certainly a possibility. I know that they had supported muslim immigration, and in some countries they are already paying a hefty price for that since...

                  Jews were the first one who used whining to get anything they wanted. But now they had fallen out of favor.

                  If a SJW has to chose between a muslim and a jew, it will chose a muslim because jew has a higher priviledge.

                  [–]rundownweather 1 point2 points  (6 children)

                  Nice try kebab, but I'm wise to your tricks. You'll get removed yet.

                  [–]razormachine 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                  Never tried one. Also I'm an Atheist.

                  [–]1GroundhogLiberator 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                  You should try a lamb kebab. Pretty good stuff.

                  [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                  Remember the Costa Concordia, the cruise ship that sunk off an Italian coast? When it was time to abandon ship, men were pushing women out of the way to get to the lifeboats.

                  An Australian mother and her young daughter have described being pushed aside by hysterical men as they tried to board lifeboats. Another woman passenger agreed, “There were big men, crew members, pushing their way past us to get into the lifeboats.” Yet another, a grandmother, complained, “I was standing by the lifeboats and men, big men, were banging into me and knocking the girls.” Guys aboard the Costa Concordia apparently made sure the age of chivalry was good and dead by pushing it over and trampling on it in their heedless rush for the exits.

                  Feminists have always wanted women to be treated no differently than men. Yet when a disaster strikes, many feminist bloggers were criticizing the men for not being men. Not stepping up, being weak, etc. We’re equal, so why should a man lose a place to a woman? Why should a man have to help a woman when he’s in danger, too? That’s why feminism largely destroyed chivalry. If women are as good as men, then why should men be honorable to help? Why should men now suddenly need to "step up" to save Sweden?

                  [–]nyklippt 29 points30 points  (1 child)

                  Ingrid is one of the most vocal person in Sweden against Islamism so she's not some silly damsel in distress.

                  As a journalist she was not some leftish feminist, if anything she was the opposite. I would say she was MRA before the term was widely spread. In the early 90s she wrote abut false reports of pedophilia and incest (usually it was custody battles gone ugly) and the miscarriage of justice that followed.

                  It was an ugly thing with corruption spreading all the way from the social services and psychotherapists using dubious methods, such as repressed memories which in reality is more like planted memories to police using false statements and judges that sent men to jail without evidence.

                  She's done a bunch of other stuff aswell, such as creating a new press society for free speech and a online newspaper that's very anti-islam.

                  https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Carlqvist

                  [–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  For those interested, Stefan's question starts at 44:24, her answer starts at 45:54.

                  [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (6 children)

                  Are any of us surprised that women are solipsistic and when push comes to shove turn to men for sheltering and provisioning?

                  Islamic 3rd world "refugees" are running roughshod all over Europe and they were invited in and helped along the way by Globalist bankers. Why? Because Europe is the costliest place in the world to do business. They protect local cottage industries and they have strong labor representation across the board. In Germany, for example, corporations are legally obligated to have labor represented on corporate boards. It's called co-determination.

                  All these smaller, homogeneous nations you had low unemployment rates, decent standards of living and heavy labor solidarity. Now what you have is a large welfare class that will vote for whomever promises them the most freebees. Power is wrested away from the homogeneous voting block. Furthermore, these refugees bring a theocratic brand of fascism with them that sanctions totalitarian state power and control. These refugees are voting in their candidates, along with the help of idiot SJW allies.

                  Mayer Amschel Rothschild famously said "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes it's laws"

                  Feminism provided globalists with the social narratives they needed to get Europeans to vote starkly against their interests by promoting the message that they were all terrible people, guilty of racism and sexism who needed to cede their long fought for and hard won societies to peoples of the third world as recompense for "colonialism". The not so funny irony here is that the very people who are facilitating Europe's demise are the descendants of those that started and ran the East India Company and most other global shipping and colonization efforts.

                  We're all quite aware of how well funded feminists are. Now we are seeing why - what the end game is - for flushing out feminism with cash, consolidating global media and populating it with hardline feminists, and donating richly and politically supporting the idiocy of post modernism in academia.

                  Its all about destroying societies and making sure people are dependent on the government for survival so those governments can be strictly controlled via a desperate voting block.

                  Look at Trump's campaign. Large money interests have facilitated a coordinated effort to disrupt his rallies with violence. Then the media blames Trump instead of those organizing said violence. Why? Because both the media and the violent gangs are controlled by the same financial interests.

                  This is the fucking world we live in.

                  So of course all this shit is miles over this feminist cunt's head. All she cares about is being able to dress like a floozy and lead betas orbiters on for her own purposes. Only when that reality gets disrupted - her lizard brain now says FEMINISM BAD. She's able to piece together that feminism is bringing Islamic fundamentalism to Europe and that is counter to her personal whims. She doesn't have clue one on how to solve it because the progressive stack in Europe has placed refugees has a higher status protected class than European women. Her go to method of whining and getting thirsty SJW idiots to carry her water isn't working. They follow their regressive stack bible to the letter. Now she's turning to Red Pilled men to do it. Same method, different target.

                  For our interests, we don't really care if she and other women of her ilk dress like a floozies and play head games with dudes. We can handle that shit. Its the shattering of western society that has most of us concerned. Nobody wants flooded labor markets and a large dependent welfare class who try to leverage mob rule at the behest of global banking interests. What we want is a relatively free society driven by merit, action and results and not a statist one controlled by coercion, arbitrary protected classes, the desperation of poverty and coordinated mob politics.

                  [–]ghebert001 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  No, you don't get to treat men like shit for decades and then act nice and beg to be saved when shit goes south. A lot of feminists think that gender is a social construct and that we're essentially all the same...so my attitude is, they can help themselves. They made their bed, let them get fucked in it.

                  [–]TheInevitableHulk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Half of the Swedish natives are female if they are as equal as they say they can handle themselves

                  [–]1favours_of_the_moon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  "yea.. and i can kinda understand that attitude (rolls eyes), but.... come on guys, shape up! YOU have to save Europe. And when you do, you will also crush feminism! And the women, they will be soooooooo sooooo thankful and grateful for saving europe. for saving their opportunities of being women, and being equal, but not being feminists. And they won't be feminists anymore. (Stefan laughing and looking off camera at this point) It's up to you guys. You gotta save Europe for us, and leave the feminists to me.. I will deal with them."

                  Still trying to string them along, just like she bragged about doing in the 70s.

                  [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  And the women, they will be soooooooo sooooo thankful and grateful for saving europe.

                  This is why so many men end up with covert contracts... they're led into it by women who seem to actually believe that women experience gratitude.

                  No more. Women - you want something from us... it's time YOU went first, not us. After that we'll negotiate about YOUR rewards. Or we might just change our minds at the last second. And you can "be okay with it".

                  [–]DrakeSaint 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  I'd be perfectly fine with the premise of a group of people fixing other people's shit, as long as the ones that fixed now are in charge of taking care that the original group does not fuck up again. And there is nothing that tells us this is the case. It's a "Help us correct our own misdoings then get back to your place".

                  [–]RedSugarPill 13 points14 points  (3 children)

                  come on guys, shape up! YOU have to save Europe

                  Well, she's not wrong. European men are the only ones that could possibly save their culture.

                  [–]razormachine 26 points27 points  (1 child)

                  Nope. Our culture was destroyed some time ago by feminists, socialists, SJW's...

                  While we are the only ones who could save this femiculture... feminists are the ones who should save it.

                  After all they claim they are equal. Maybe it is time for them to fight and die for what they believe and for their way of life?

                  [–]Dronitto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  there is nothing wrong with trying to cure both diseases at the same time In the meantime every man is thinking like you 'the problem is too big to step up now' yet, they dont even make a change on a local level, local meaning their home, their life, their neighborhood, their city or community

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                  [–]worldnewsrager[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  I'd love to, but the border between you and I is the Atlantic Ocean, as I live in the U.S. :D maybe an island in Oceania though? Maybe that ww2-platform kingdom is taking immigrants.

                  [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  The words of old women are wind. They have nothing we want.

                  Until the young women start sucking for forgiveness, we ain't gonna do shit.

                  [–]suloco 9 points10 points  (11 children)

                  Even if the west gets taken over by Islam, women will be fine. When the new force invades, they just surrender themselves to it. No concept of loyalty or honour will force them to resist or prevent them from mating with their brother's and father's killer.

                  [–]KartagoPill 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  that only gives them tingles. Something fierce and savage is taking them. Dirty novel feminists.

                  [–]Dronitto 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                  yeah, thats why i dont understand man that do not act against islam as a new 'power' in Europe Some women will just convert, they do not give a shit yet the man will suffer, as always the only way to return Europe is to fight both, islam(its a barbaric, medieval view of the world,thats why its working on feminist Europe) and feminism(it make most man handicap)

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Will be fine?

                  More than fine. In terms of biology they win because they get to survive and reproduce, and they get to do it with the strongest men around.

                  [–]afkb39sdfb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  As the old saying goes, "you made your bed, now you sleep in it."

                  Or, " you reap what you sow"

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I made a post about this issue in TRP.red. I do not think many people read it. In light of this post it seems people are beginning to get my point. I may post a revised version in here soon. If anyone wants to read the original it is at

                  [https://www.trp.red/b/hankmoody/]

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                  [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  I guess the bitch never read the fable "the boy who cried wolf"

                  Or the contemporary version "the slut who cried oppression"

                  [–]nightshadez94 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Feminists are a fucking joke.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  thanks for writing this, had similar thoughts. that cunt can fuck off pretending to be on the right side.

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                  [–]ILikeTortuls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I think we should become better men, stronger and more skilled. Capable of not only fighting and beating these savages, but toying with them like a cat with a mouse. All the while completely ignoring women. A savage threatens your buddy, savage the savage. A savage threatens a woman, well, equality dictates that she is strong and capable of handling this situation herself. So let her. And let her suffer, like we have suffered year upon year upon year watching her live the good life free from consequences. They need to feel consequences.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  And to reiterate. FEMINISM IS A GIANT SHIT TEST. Once again proving that the feminine mind clings to power and stirs shit up only in the absence of masculine leadership. If men lead woman properly, the feminist movement would never have gained any traction.

                  [–]cthulhu_calling_ 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                  Let Sweden burn, let Europe fail, let America waste away.... I will enjoy the decline with a sprightly smirk. Why? Because its all too little too late. I'll take a page from emperor Nero and put on shades and just watch.

                  [–]KartagoPill 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                  I also think feminist made damage too much. But at least now ours Islam Overlords will set women in line and hijab.

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                  [–]SpaceChris 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Same thing happened on a smaller scale here in Germany. I'm not a butthurt mgtow, but I truly believe in pain being a great teacher, so i almost don't give a damn. It would be totally idiotic to white knight, considering that even AFTER cologne the vast majority of women don't vote right / conservative parties like AFD. Women supported it (wish i could erase that cringe worthy refugees welcome bullshit from my mind), women will take responsibility for it. Most german men seem to have checked out anyways and seemingly enjoy the decline. I received loads of heat last summer for supporting my hungarian Bros (where I immigrated from originally). But words are not enough to describe the schadenfreude i felt after new years eve.

                  [–]Foulcrow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I received loads of heat last summer for supporting my hungarian Bros

                  You don't keep track of things? Hungary is never right, and the media loves to portray it as a neo-nazi shithole where every right ever is being taken away.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                  Better late than never.

                  This surprises you? Every time, theres posts on how they act here. And every time they do JUST THAT, theres a post on here who cannot believe that it literally happened.

                  [–]worldnewsrager[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                  It's not the 'that' it happens, it's more about the unfettered shamelessness in which it's done. Just when I think I've seen it all, you see what is essentially "Yea, we may have messed up, NOW GO DIE FOR ME OR ELSE YOU"RE NOT A MAN!"

                  [–]manslutalt 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Now, this likely childless, husbandless, waste of good white skin actually, like tries to shame men into what? Getting themselves killed doing what can only be assumed to be deporting the suspected million muslim immigrants. or overthrowing the government. And for what? So she is protected from the consequences of her life-choices, that she only now, once it's hitting her in the face, realizes might have been in err?

                  A war where lots of European men died would actually solve a lot of these problems because it would skew the gender balance and make us more similar to Russia in that regard.

                  We still lack incentive though. "She will deal with the feminists" sounds like a very hollow promise. No thanks.

                  [–]x0diego0x 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                  I'm not even white, but it would be really sad not to have you folks around here in the next 100-200 years. You should definetly save your race by having ton of babies, but don't be aggressive if some of us want some of that booty.

                  Also, western values of freedom are better than Islam. Don't let Islam take your countries as already happened in London.

                  Best of lucks

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