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Men's RightsThe Cycle Of Female Inclusivity (Courtesy Of MGTOW Reddit) (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Darth_Sin

Step One: We demand you include us in your space.

Step Two: We demand you change your space to accommodate us.

Step Three: We demand you stop harassing us because you don't like our demands.

Step Four: We demand new laws or rules be enacted to remove "you" from the space "we've" created as you don't fall in line with our vision of what the space should be.

Step Five: Why don’t you go off and create your own space if you don’t like it? :)

Step Six: We demand you not create your own space after we have kicked you out of "our" space as men having their own space is inherently misogynistic.


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[–]Bielzabutt 138 points139 points  (8 children)

Agreed, that cycle is "I want more things, make more money" >> "You're always working and never around">> "You don't put enough time in our relationship""I'm leaving you/cheating on you because of your unavailability""You owe me half your stuff"

[–]crimsonpowder 63 points64 points  (1 child)

I've noticed what you're talking about. Women have parasitic behavior. A woman will try to infiltrate a man's life and suck as much as she can out of him. This is an instinct deep within her because she is the weaker sex and needs resources. If the guy's frame is weak and he caves to her ever-growing list of demands, the cycle you laid out is exactly what happens.

This behavior is fundamentally no different than what a ringworm does to the eye. It's stupid parasitic behavior where eventually the host dies.

A man's job, should he choose to undertake it, is to understand this reality and keep a solid frame to ensure this doesn't happen. A woman is weaker in each regard; she can only cause problems if he lets her.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also symbolically, a vagina squeezes the life out of a penis.

[–]Tom_The_Human 31 points32 points  (1 child)

That's only a cycle if you let it be.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but most guys are unprepared for the 'arc'. The thing that attracts women to you (high status job with stellar pay) is the same thing that drives them away (time demanding high status job)

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You get those, you say "buh bye..."

[–]yomo86 3 points4 points  (1 child)

TRP preaches to cut her off her legs. "I want more things, make more money" - "If you are not happy leave - IDGAF" suddenly a change of tune in her persona.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"I'm not happy!"

"There's the door."

Best dread game ever.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I told my ex very early in our marriage "you don't like it, you can go." I initiated the divorce. Always demonstrate higher value.

[–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (35 children)

Just dropped a new plate over this. She was fucking me outside of a two year relationship because her guy was "emotionally abusive." Well, after fucking her for a couple weeks she tells me she dropped her guy and I'd been promoted from "side nigga" to "main nigga." I told her I was "all time side nigga" and to pump the brakes. After that she would leave one or more items at my place every time she came by. Hair ties, hair pins, panties, etc. Bitch even bought me new pillows without asking. I drew the line when she asked to stay over and I told her no because I was getting up early to hit the water and she demanded I spend the day with her instead because she was off work. I had all her shit in a box the next time she came over after that and said we were going to start meeting at her place instead (which I think I'm going to make SOP after this). She wasn't down with that (maybe because main nigga wasn't made aware he was no longer main nigga?) and I told her that was her only option because I wasn't going to have her in my home. Showed her the door and that was that. Fuck branch swinging, this girl tried to slither her way into my life. They know what they want and they know how to get it. Vigilance is absolutely vital.

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    [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (28 children)

    This is the first one to try to edge in like that. I've had girls try to push for LTR's but most catch on pretty quick that I'm not that guy. I drop how much I hate kids and how stupid I think marriage is at every opportunity and all incentive to try and lock me down vanishes. I bring girls back to my place pretty regularly, it's easier than trying to get a girl who is unaware of the existence of cardinal directions to explain how to get to her place. This girl didn't even push for an LTR. She just started dropping shit at my place and ordering shit for my apartment. I think it's easier to get past ASD in your own space than hers (never had a girl change her mind at my door vice hers, for example) but this new invasion tactic has me rethinking it.

    [–][deleted]  (27 children)

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      [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (24 children)

      I find it hilarious that Weeknd turns girls on given that he only sings about being a womanizing drug addict, but it is what it is. No, I don't leave music on out of consideration for my neighbors and because I listen to music girls don't like. I don't hunt clubs anymore for this reason. EDM/club sluts are fun for a short while but they're all cookie cutter clones and really fucking annoying. I hit up bars instead. I meet much more interesting and diverse ass this way and it's more challenging (and rewarding) to talk a woman into bed than to rub up on a girl gorked out on molly and fireball. I really got burned out on party girls last year. They are the epitome of AWALT.

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

      Just watched my cousin get married 5 hours ago. When they exchanged vows I just cringed and thought, "how the fuck could I ever promise someone to spend my life with only them? There's so many women." It's crazy how disgusting marriage sounds post-RP.

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      how the fuck could I ever promise someone to spend my life with only them

      Two ways:

      1. Believe it and be in denial.

      2. Lie through your teeth.

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Always try their place if possible. You can leave whenever, they don't know where you live if they're crazy, etc.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      The way you described this just screams of her being a white or Hispanic female trying to sound more down by dropping egregious N bombs.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      1) Being a side nigga transcends race and 2) while it is said ironically as both of us are white, "nigga" is hardly an "N bomb."

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Ah I assumed you were black.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 87 points88 points  (6 children)

      Obligatory reminder that the 1600's version of feminazis in England tried to ban coffee houses because men were congregating there too often.

      https://www.gopetition.com/famous-petitions-in-history/232/the-women-s-petition-against-coffee-1674.html

      Women's natural enemy is anything that men can enjoy that is not women. There's a reason video games, porn, movies, sports, etc are always getting the "why isn't this thing inclusive to women?" and "this thing men like needs to be stigmatized or forbidden" treatment.

      In a feminist utopia, positive female attention would be the ONLY thing men are allowed to enjoy. If women hold a monopoly on our happiness, the stock price of femaleness rises. That means they can trade their bodies and their positive attention for more stuff - bux and fux alike.

      [–]DiscerningDuck 23 points24 points  (3 children)

      Conversely, if men are able to find happiness elsewhere in camaraderie, drawing attention away from women, their stock price decreases. Which then requires them to put effort into regaining attention from men, causing men's stock price to go up, which enables hypergamy.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Yep. It's like the mafia breaking the kneecaps of rivals who tries to sell drugs on their turf. You ruin their monopoly, you force them to price more competitively.

      [–]drawingroomgentleman 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      sup homie https://duckduckgo.com/?q=camaraderie+define&ia=definition THe reason it's not recognized is that you spell it this way.

      [–]skoobled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Good Lord, yes. It's so true and insidious. It's a wonder more people can't see it for what it is

      [–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      God - that hit me hard. Good stuff! Take an upvote.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 55 points56 points  (3 children)

      Step Two is probably the biggest leap to shitshow for whatever the space is.

      Anytime feminism becomes a part of any space, the conversation shifts away from whatever the thing was and becomes about the feminism.

      [–]thrway1312 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      Can confirm, have been a part of a nayurally-occurring male zone (electronics lab) and as we talk more about women inevitably working in the lab due to our success we've shifted from our normal behavior to talking about how we have to be more PC. Shit sucks.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      life cycle of the firm. Import the Clueless.

      [–]LarParWar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Either take over the lab, or move on. You've seen the future, act before it arrives.

      [–]Rikvidr 204 points205 points  (14 children)

      I feel like there should be another step at the end. Feminists constantly take over things that used to be safe haven for males, and are now poisoning them. Look at video games. We just wanna kill some shit, not be lectured on why that bikini on a pixilated avatar is a hate crime.

      [–][deleted] 72 points73 points  (3 children)

      It's not just video games.

      The female imperative also includes the replacement of men by more masculine men of possible foreign origin if the men of their own ingroup become feminine. This is the female imperative: Weaken an alpha and replace him if he does submit.

      [–]lord-denning 30 points31 points  (1 child)

      Bingo. Now everything Merkel has done and all the women holding "welcome refugees" signs make sense.

      [–]Pornography_saves_li 24 points25 points  (0 children)

      Read "War Brides" by Rollo Tomassi.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      It's the female imperative to make men compete for them.

      [–]DailyManliness 58 points59 points  (6 children)

      Remember dead or alive extreme beach volleyball? I can't imagine that ever being made again. I played it as a kid but it would never be allowed now

      [–]WhitePhillip 21 points22 points  (1 child)

      There was a new release just a few months ago in Japan but it did not make it to the US market. However PS4 is not region locked so you can order it online and partake in all the big jiggly boobies you like.

      [–]DailyManliness 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Just looked it up and it's funny how they couldn't include "volleyball" in the title even in Asia. Just some fun quotes from the Wikipedia page

      Shuhei Yoshida "It's due to cultural differences. The West has its own thinking about how to depict women in games media which is different from Japan […] Speaking personally, if it is a representation acceptable to the general people in Japan, I wouldn't be concerned about it in Japan. It's a difficult problem"

      Hayashi said a version of the game "adjusted for North America" might come to the West if the demand is high enough

      Unreal, the game just came out too. Apparently there's also an English option so I might need to order it just to put it on a "fuck you" mantle

      [–]Rikvidr 29 points30 points  (3 children)

      I do remember it. But feminists get offended by incredibly innocuous things like Tomb Raider. I mean I'm not a big fan of the TR games, but I'm assuming some of settings in those games might warrant for the main character to be wearing something you know, that doesn't make them hot (as in temperature). Oh no, a spaghetti strap shirt in a video game, call the fbiciansapolice.

      [–]LikeViolence 39 points40 points  (1 child)

      People were upset by cortana in the halo series. They were mad at a hologram in a video game.

      [–]DailyManliness 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      I'm not a fan of the games either, I wrote an entire thing about this and "Quiet" in Metal Gear Solid. The absurd complaining about outfits of women in video games is insane.

      [–]nuesuh 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Or the military. That was one of the only places you could go without having to deal with or make special rules for women.

      [–]mirlalt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      They try.

      Doom just got released. Kill shit.

      Whatever happened to Tracer's ass in overwatch didn't change the gameplay.

      Meh

      [–][deleted] 95 points96 points  (11 children)

      Step Seven: We demand you to be replaced by more masculine men of foreign origin because we are sick of your feminine ways

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        [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (5 children)

        That won't happen until after step 7.5:

        Step 7.5: foreign men are raping us, so we'll blame local cucked betas for being misogynist rape-apologists.

        We are not yet seeing feminists demanding action against rapefugees, if anything they're clamping down even harder on the local male population.

        [–]_Madison_ 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        Women in the west are sheltered especially in Europe. They have no idea what men brainwashed by religion are actually capable of. They are so naive i don't think they realise they can get beaten half to death without a guy breaking a sweat.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        You mean like this afghan bitch gettin stoned because of adultery, eloping or whatever have you. This type of punishment is also in the bible, death by stoning. I wonder what these hypergamy loving women would do if they lived in an islamic state. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJv-72DSpaE

        [–]LarParWar 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        They are so naive i don't think they realise they can get beaten half to death without a guy breaking a sweat.

        Sounds like that religious brainwashing gives those men a spine of steel.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        No, really though, an average man is stronger than 99% of women.

        [–]LarParWar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The power of the State is greater than 99% of men.

        (White) women toed the line because the State didn't intervene in the male->female relationship dynamic and call it "family court" and "domestic abuse" and whatever other hysterical feminist phrases.

        Moslem men haven't broken because the State treats them with kid gloves. They in practice take Sharia law with them wherever they go.

        [–]sorceryofthetesticle 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        That one's a shit test that, no matter how you handle it, you lose.

        [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Yeah well, you invited them, have fun.

        [–]-Hegemon- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        "But... I did what you asked" :'(

        [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 47 points48 points  (6 children)

        It's just a series of shit-tests, and like all shit-tests, is best dealt with right from the beginning.

        Men just need to learn one of the most important sentences again: "Bitch, shut up."

        The world would become a better place.

        [–]Endorsed Contributordown_with_whomever 10 points11 points  (4 children)

        "Bitch, shut up."

        There is more to it than that. Humans are social creatures and context is anything.

        Imagine saying this phrase today in front of any audience and watch how quickly your enemies gather in every direction.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        Imagine saying this phrase today in front of any audience and watch how quickly your enemies gather in every direction.

        I have told people of any sex multiple times to shut their face and spare me from what they consider to be important. Where is the problem? It's all a matter of who says it and how.

        Besides that, I also do not necessarily to take it literally. You need to learn to stand your ground against women inducing drama though. Especially in relationships you will get heavy shit-tests if you exclude her from certain activities.

        Also what are those “enemies“ planning to do?

        [–]Spiral-knight 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Destroy your reputation, end any hope you have of seeing gainful employment, through another or alone. Make you a literal outcast harassed and attacked from every direction- either as the direct result of malice or by those wishing to direct the hate away from themselves. Like it or not we're not in an age where "bitch, shut up" and/or "standing your ground" will work regularly enough to bank on.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        You are watching too much TV. Unless you are really exposed to the public or in a very high position of power none of that will happen to you.

        [–]1aguy01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        ..what? I mean tea don't do it at work but I say shot like this all the time and women love it.

        [–]810809 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Dear God yes, so many men try and argue and convince women they're wrong. You don't: you tell them to shut the fuck up and throw them out on their ass when they don't. Women depend on US, every thing they have, every job they hold: the company is there because of men working. She wants a piece? You deicde how much she gets or doesn't get based on how much value she presents. She got nothing but a mouth? You tell her to shut the fuck up, you don't argue with children: do you?

        [–]Manmore 29 points30 points  (0 children)

        Step Zero: Your space is so silly

        [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

        Why aren't there any woman on the deadliest catch??

        Woman are great at catching crabs.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Porn has made having not having pubic hair the norm. Crabs are going extinct.

        [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (12 children)

        Fine observation. The cycle is akin to the awkward situation where someone interjects/interrupts a conversation and don't contribute anything of substance while assuming the conversation should align with their obscure comment.

        The difference being that the majority of men permit the intrusion (into their space)because they are thirsty for the female interaction.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 38 points39 points  (5 children)

        The difference being that the majority of men permit the intrusion (into their space)because they are thirsty for the female interaction.

        This often gets overlooked in mainstream in discussions on female inclusion. Men have always, at all points in history, with no exceptions, preferred to have more women around then less. When was the last time you were out with your boys and one of you said "man, this party is so lame, there's too many girls here. Let's go over to Dave's, I hear that place is a total sausage fest!"

        This is definitive proof that men are not trying to keep women out of anything, whether it's tech, video games, nerd culture, etc. Men, especially beta men, have absolutely no qualms with women entering their spaces. Quite the contrary, they wish there were more of them.

        This doesn't stop thinkpiece bloggers from saying "X doesn't have enough women in it! This must be because men are trying to force women out of X! Shame on you men!" and meanwhile the blogger herself has absolutely no interest in X to begin with.

        [–]2niczar 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        That's my definition of GamerGate: "the completely sane idea that the top priority of men supposedly starved of female attention is to remove women from their favorite pastime."

        [–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 15 points16 points  (0 children)

        Exactly how I knew the mainstream press' description of GamerGate was lies. Implying beta males want less women around? Bullshit.

        [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        Men have always, at all points in history, with no exceptions, preferred to have more women around then less.

        With a caveat: men of power and wisdom have always recognized the negative influence of women on male spaces and excluded them appropriately. The Greek assembly, the Roman Curia, the British gentlemen's club are all manifestations of men wanting to be able to discuss important issues without estrogenic influence.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        When was the last time you were out with your boys and one of you said "man, this party is so lame, there's too many girls here. Let's go over to Dave's, I hear that place is a total sausage fest!"

        Sure, it's like this when you are relaxing and trying to have fun.

        Now, lets imagine a different scenario, where you and your boys are on a mission, and you need to get shit done. Here women become a distraction and a nuisance.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

        Thats me - I always feel like I make random awkward observations into conversations. Its like I drop lead balloons into the conversation whenever I speak.

        I need to work on it somehow :)

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

        A key to this. Listen. You'll make less of a fool out of yourself if you know whats "really" happening. After a certain point ask a valid question about the topic which relates to the conversation. It engages the group, includes you in the conversation, and it open ended enough to allow a more diverse dialogue.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        You're completely right. But even when I listen, I don't seem to have much intelligent to contribute.

        Maybe I need to concentrate harder

        [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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          [–]nuferasgurd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          No one gives a shit about you, everyone only cares about themselves. You don't need to contribute, you need to get them to contribute so they feel smart. People project their emotional states onto other people so if you make someone feel smart they'll attribute that to you.

          [–]LateralThinkerer 12 points13 points  (3 children)

          Notice how much they're appropriating others' assets, rather than creating something of value themselves.

          [–]810809 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          It's like that one reality show where the male island were building shit and the women on their island lived in squalid conditions.

          [–]LateralThinkerer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          They were brewing makeup and weaving lingerie so they wouldn't have to actually build anything. /s

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Shit, I've recently been having fun playing Minecraft with my six years old niece and nephew, and even there I could already see these differences emerging.

          My six year old niece likes to play in creative mode, make things pretty, likes to build small pretty trinkets, and enjoys spending a huge part of time outside of the game, picking out different cute skins to put on her character.

          Six year old nephew likes to play survival mode, builds well-defended but messy structures with good lighting to protect himself his in-game wealth, and his female cousin from monsters.

          I just can't believe all of this was socialized into them.

          [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 12 points13 points  (3 children)

          steps 1 - 5 are the same steps with people from california moving to arizona and then try to change arizona to the shithole of california that they came from

          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Fucking this dude. I just moved back to Arizona. This place is the shit and I'm not telling anyone. Fucking California is the shittiest state in the union.

          [–]joseph_fuzzco_Jr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Those of us in Texas are shaking our heads right now.

          [–]1Entropy-7 8 points9 points  (3 children)

          It reminds me of that saying that any organization that is not explicitly conservative will, over time, become liberal. In this case, however, if the space is explicitly male then they double down and make out like it is a hate crime until it is not explicitly male-only.

          [–]1AmlanceJockey 11 points12 points  (2 children)

          The Harvard men only clubs doubled down in a big way. When given the ultimatum of include women or lose official status as a Harvard club, they chose to hit the road.

          [–]1Entropy-7 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Good for them, but it speaks to a rank hypocrisy when the same people issuing the ultimatum are the same ones creating and endorsing female-only groups. . .but we knew that already.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          This just makes the clubs look better and Harvard look worse.

          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          How much longer until we can't gather in groups unless there's at least one female present?

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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          [–]yarow12 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          Steps two, four, and six sum up what I'm noticing on American college campuses. If hypergamy is to be taken as the norm, females in general are going to be miserable and confused while searching for Mr. Perfect. Never to realize that he simply cannot exist anymore.

          [–]AzzyMcGee 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          That's the saddest part. They're too stupid to ever realize that they're the ones who are causing all of their blights.

          [–]yarow12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          "Women are children." -grandpa, Diana Davison, etc.

          The saddest part for me is the fact that I'm not a child molester.

          [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Or...

          Step Six: We demand you include us in your space.

          [–]TomRoberts2016 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Ironic that men are supposed to chase women, but when women because undesirable (late 20's) then they start chasing men, try to bully them when they're still not wanted, pretend they didn't want them in the first place.

          [–][deleted]  (5 children)

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          [–]FreeRadical5 29 points30 points  (2 children)

          This doesn't prove it though. They seem extremely cunning, amoral and ruthless if anything.

          [–]ItsCold_ItsCold 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          It's all instinctual -- no intellect involved.

          [–]gonorealover -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

          They seem extremely cunning, amoral and ruthless if anything.

          By being persistent and annoying ? That's what children do .

          Stop giving credits to people who dont deserve them , beta bitch.

          [–]KartagoPill 10 points11 points  (1 child)

          women are different than men, yes.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (9 children)

          Please don't happen to the NFL

          [–]SgtBrutalisk 13 points14 points  (8 children)

          NFL has female refeeres and the players wear pink ribbons for breast cancer awareness.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

          You think I didn't notice or something? lol

          That's why I made the comment. It's the first step to the NFL's slippery demise.

          [–]SgtBrutalisk 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          Others might not know about it.

          [–]lucifersaveus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I didn't because I don't watch sports.

          I heard Bill Burr talk about it but I thought he was talking about women wanting to go to the game with their bf/husband or something.

          Female refs...that's hilarious

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

          I'm actually praying for the day they integrate the NFL. It will last exactly one week and I expect at least one medically brain-dead female player to be the end of it. Then we can finally have televised, honest, open, visual, irrefutable proof laid out before the eyes of millions that even the best women are no match for men. Then we can start rolling back all this inclusive bullshit.

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

          Whenever the topic comes up about integration and equality in sports, I proclaim "I am totally on board. We should make the olympics co-ed." I then conclude with "Of course that would end shortly after women stopped winning medals".

          [–]lucifersaveus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Shit. I forgot what video it was but some guy was talking about how women are kept out of the NBA, NFL, Men's Soccer.

          lol like it's us who are keeping them out

          [–]GC0W30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I'm actually praying for the day they integrate the NFL. It will last exactly one week and I expect at least one medically brain-dead female player to be the end of it

          They'll decide that the only way for it to not be misogynistic is for it to become flag football...

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Step Three: we demand special treatment we demand you stop harassing us

          [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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          [–]stro85 22 points23 points  (1 child)

          Like Chris Rock said "women only want one thing, everything"

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I read that as Michael Scott.

          [–]1rife_omeqa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Step 6 is usually when Men create another space without women. Then the process repeats.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          That bitchy little smiley face on step 5 is so fucking on point. Plausible deniability on the instinctual level. To the plugged in: 'What? I smiled I was being nice?' To the unplugged: 'I know this will piss you off, go on, get angry and shift public opinion my way.'

          [–]Noctis_Cloud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Step 8: It appears you gave up fighting for your space and walked away, now we are disinterested too. On to the next space!

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          If women demand to join a club, why fight it? If that's what they want, let them in, but give them responsibilities and tie their continued involvement into being productive members of the group. If they don't meet a standard, you give them another chance to shape up or ship out.

          [–]TheRedStoic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Tldr (of my response) women will invade anything male based and immediately try to make it female based. I agree entirely OP. I would as that the above is cyclical in nature. At least until enough men have been betafied that new male groups simply don't exist.

          I hold a testing and exposure session for one of our brands every week. Most of the buyers are male for this brand, as it is a rather brutal rule set which requires an appreciation of complex systems to be enjoyed.

          We've always invited everyone, never turn anyone away either, most of the women coming in end up bitching because it's too hard, and want me to rewrite an 8 year built, profitable design, to make it easier for them. (Or give exceptions because it's too hard without Mulligan's)

          Maybe it's because they're finger fucking their phones while they should be paying attention?

          Maybe because it's a neutral, merit based reward system?

          Maybe because of the above, there is no preferential treatment for a low cut or booty shorts?

          Maybe because rewards are not affected by who you know, but what you know?

          Maybe because the system is based on punishment for failure, and others on your team will point it out because you're visibly dragging everyone down?

          Maybe because 80 percent of the people who didn't go through the twenty minute prep to join (learn basic rules and mechanics) are female?

          Fuck maybe it's because they can't concentrate? Idunnolol.

          I dunno. My answer is always the same. If we made it easier, it wouldn't be rewarding, it would also be blatantly unfair to everyone else looking for this kind of challenge. Maybe this isn't the product for you. Why not try (kiddy supplement) instead.

          It's funny. Our core repeat testers are split pretty evenly, 13/7 male lean. Our subscribers are 40%female. It's obvious women can do this fine, if motivated properly. Hell one of our best engine designers is female.

          I will not bow to any one person because they feel excluded. Change yourself or move on, no one is keeping you here. (Of course you must be diplomatic in telling people to fuck off)

          If there's one thing this has taught me over the last few years, it's that men relax with complex merit rewarding systems, women bitch about simple systems being too complex and not having enough support. It's also taught me generalizations are too general.

          Customers are weird.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Engines? Supplements?

          I'm curious what type of product you're actually pushing.

          Maybe because rewards are not affected by who you know, but what you know?

          I agree with all in your post except for that, you yourself have to realize it's a lie. It's WAY more about who you know than what you know, ESPECIALLY for women.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          basically islam except step three is them killing you and enslaving your women

          [–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It's insidious, but that's the way that female reasoning (and gay male) reasoning works.

          [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'd say you have nailed it perfectly.

          [–]1v1crown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Have you seen how many female only colleges there are compared to male colleges in US? There are 3 male only colleges, and about 70-80 women colleges (based on wikipedia). In fact, there was one military college that tried changing to all male college and got sued for discrimination.

          And people wonder why the current trend is more women are attending college than men.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_colleges_in_the_United_States

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_colleges_in_the_United_States

          "The most notable men's college to begin admitting women in recent years is the Virginia Military Institute (VMI), which had been sued by the U.S. Department of Justice in 1990 for discrimination. The Department of Justice argued that since VMI was a public institution, it could not prevent women from attending based on gender alone. Due to United States v. Virginia, VMI admitted its first female cadets in 1997."

          [–]i_got_the_clearance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          There will always be "women-firsts", first woman-president etc, because men need to first create the institution and then the conditions for women to succeed there. Here is the NYT story of the start of the WNBA. Includes an unintentionally hilarious account of the first women's pro game (shooting 35% on both sides and a million TO). An advance for women? Well they don't mention that men started the league 20 years ago, and have lost $1M to $2M each year per team (12 of them) over that time. Only in the last few years have even half the teams made money.

          [–]odileLee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Stupid witches dont understand- men need their space , always have! Look at Freemasonry( making good men, better. And they do!) It is downright hypocrisy, as per their norm. Good women know, not only do men need their " mancave" but also, have secret mens business ( whatever that is, none of my business!) They are narcississtic to a fault.