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Men's RightsArticle: Man loses custody battle for kids living with sex offender. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by ldmc

The title of the article pretty much sums up how hard it is for a man to have custody of his children.

Father gets divorced, ex-wife remarries a sex offender who spent 4 years in jail for sexually assaulting a 15yo step daughter from a previous marriage. Ex-wife takes the girls to live with the sex offender. Father gets worried for his girls safety. Goes to court to get custody.

Court asks ex-wife if it's safe for the girls. Ex-wife says "it's totally safe for the girls to live with my sex offender new husband". Provides evidence of safety (he went to rehab and hadn't been convicted of assault in last 13yrs). Courts responds, "good enough for us". Court rules living with sex offender poses "NO SIGNIFICANT RISK to his daughters"!

Father gets mad, goes to court again to appeal the verdict. Appeals Court upholds initial finding. Girls have to stay with mom and sex offender.

The state says it is a significant risk to leave children alone unsupervised with sex offenders (no shit). However, if the custodial parent (almost always the mom) can show "evidence" that it's safe then presumption of risk DISAPPEARS! link: http://tinyurl.com/jqvby6d

Still think that as a father you have a chance of getting custody? So far this month I've read from local-ish midwest USA newspapers: a mother has kids live with sex offender, a mother put in mental hospital and a mother being arrested for doing meth. In all 3 cases the Father fought for more custody and in all 3 cases the mother retained full custody. (fyi in the mental hospital case the mom was released, then she killed the kids)

Let it sink in...


[–]TattedGuyser 140 points141 points  (18 children)

From the comments: (This is apparently the father)

Robert Hopkins · Works at USPS April that is a reasonable response and I greatly respect your point of view here. As the father in this case please let me answer some of these questions.

First, I have been involved in my children's lives since day one, literally. They are the center of my world and guide every action I take.

The fact is that this case was even more disturbing than this short article states. After we separated she moved in with a man that later molested her oldest daughter. At the time she was more interested in defending him than supporting her daughter.

I still lay awake at nights remembering her calling her child a "little liar" and how she (the child) just wanted to break them up.

Shortly after she cut off visitation with that daughter which was technically her right given that, even though I had raised this child from the age of six months, I was not her biological father. I was not allowed to present this as evidence given that the child in question was not technically my child.

I was also not allowed to present similar evidence of her using the other children as ransom on numerous occasions.

As for the matter of the current stepfather... who knows what his risk of reoffense is? This information is only available to law enforcement and the mother. Given that they only alluded to it at trial, but never presented it, no one knows.

Justice Connolly noted in his dissent that this places a near insurmountable burden on the non custodial parent. He then goes on to question that if he indeed had a low chance of reoffense then why were these documents not presented at trial?

Holy fuck... imagine having to live under the same room as the man who molests you, and your own mother who is your flesh and blood decides to defend this man. That is seriously fucked up

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 67 points68 points  (4 children)

Typical behavior of a codependent person. Won't protect her offspring, will rather defend partner. See my post history.

My boys know their mother won't be able to protect them from day one and that they need to call me in case shit happens.

I lived with abusive alcoholic father and when I was 7 or 8 I told him something along the lines "you're not my father because my father doesn't drink". My mother scolded me right after. She deliberately left me with him, I remember him getting drunk with friends, puking on himself, all that. She didn't mind neither his behavior nor cleaning.

That's codependency. See it once understand it once be able to find it anywhere.

[–]TattedGuyser 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know the situation all too well as well. I went through just about the same thing, except it was my 'father' who was codependent on my 'stepmother'. She would threaten and beat us relentlessly and he would never do anything about it, only ever called us liars and beat us himself.

[–]Stythe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not just sad that the code pendant defends/ enables the partner at their own risk, it's sad that they will likely end up partaking in the same behaviour as well. Double whammy in the making.

[–]GunPostal 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can you give me a link that explains this codependency word?

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[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I remember talking to my Great Aunt about this actually. She said, after being alive for 82 years that, "Frankly, some women just get off on having their husband diddle their daughters."

[–]Snazzy_Serval 8 points9 points  (0 children)

How is one not allowed to present evidence? The fact that his step-daughter is not his biological daughter is irrelevant.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Now imagine being the father and having no power over the fate of your daughter at all.

[–]aherne18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At the time she was more interested in defending him than supporting her daughter.

How typical would that be? A woman would do ANYTHING for an alpha: suck his cock, take ass-to-mouth, look on the other side while he fucks her/THEIR daughter, the list goes on and on. A couple of months ago saw a documentary about a woman prison guardian (!) who "fell in love" of some alpha murderer and helped him escape because she wanted to "live with him for the rest of his life".

Alphas are in such short supply today that a woman CANNOT afford to lose any!

[–]synpse 3 points4 points  (1 child)

When reading this, the Aerosmith song "Janie's got a gun" came to mind.

I know my daughter passed Hunter's Safety, and if her step-dad were to be like that.. we'd have a case of justifiable homicide. or self-defense.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just pray the molester doesn't have a bright orange vest.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Kids aren't even his? Good god how fucked in the head are men these days to put up with this...

[–]Tman5691 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Sometimes you just want to help a person not grow up fucked up, yours or not. If I had been the person who taught a child to ride their first bike, tie their laces and such, I'd probably want to make sure they made it to adulthood without getting messed up.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Seriously. Everyone should be feeling a need to help these children.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 8 points9 points  (0 children)

the first one wasn't

[–]aDAMNPATRIOT -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I'd kill him and kidnap the kids. No way around it.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 259 points260 points  (10 children)

Cant read. I want a pleasant saturday. I'll just upvote and move on.

[–]aanarchist 55 points56 points  (7 children)

right it's come to the point where this shit's for the newbies

[–]ldmc[S] 45 points46 points  (6 children)

Agree, but there isn't a newbie flair. Digested redpillers can say "Yup, shit's messed up, nothing new" and move on. For Newbies and those who haven't fully digested it's a good reminder of how the legal system is not there for you or your kids.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Precisely.

Men must remember that, while the law may shield them against other men, it will almost never take their side against a woman.

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    [–]Schveen15 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    ... hence why he said almost never as opposed to never

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]LE117 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Damn, the courts are just as bad with child custody in the UK....I have no words

      [–]McCoop_ 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      While I understand your actions, I don't think content should be blindly up voted simply because the title proposes a scenario that meets your expectations and validates red pill principles. We should encourage red pillers to seek and value truth, not blindly accept articles as fact simply because they support red pill philosophies. So many causes will quote "statistics" and provide examples of misbehaviour without verifying the sources or data simply because it conveniently supports their case in a meaningful way. We need to be better than the people we shame, mock, and pity.

      I know you aren't intending to send that message, but the number of up votes on your comment make me think people just want to read things that support their opinions whether they are true or not.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      the number of up votes on your comment

      Are from guys who read it and wished they hadn't.

      [–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (12 children)

      It depends on the state, the judge, and whether or not you have a court reporter (stenographer) in the courtroom at the time of the trial. I had an attorney on the oppossite side telling me it didn't matter that the mother and boyfriend were abusing my client's kids. There was nothing the court could do about and that my client needed to stop pestering child safety services. This is of course a case where the mother disappeared in the middle of the work day and moved to the other side of the state and couldn't be found for six months till my client hired me.

      The children were eight and nine and their telling him they were being abused wasn't allowed as evidence in court because it was hearsay, and luckily my client could afford a child psychologist that analyzed the kids while the kids spent the summer with my client (as part of a ruling for temporary time-sharing).

      The judge stated that she had made no finding of the children being in danger and I stood up and asked the judge if she was saying for the record that a mother who takes her children to the other side of the country to live with a boyfriend she support, where both adults spend their days drinking in front of the children, where the boyfriend's children beat up the children, where the mother and boyfriend are gone from the residence for days at a time to only be watched by one of the abusive children, is the superior choice for primary custody over that of a father who has no history of abuse towards the children and can provide a safe environment, mental healthcare, and exclusive attention. Because if that was the case, then the news media needed to be alerted immediately. The judge gave me an angry look and told me not to interrupt her. She paused, asked the parties some questions about what I had said, and then slowly and awkwardly stated that she found while the mother was capable of providing care for the children. Given that the childrens' doctors, larger family (both parents' families lived nearby), and mental health specialist, and that the mother's actions had caused the severe distance without notice to the father, and that the children had a history of complaints of mental and physical abuse. She decided that the father was to have majority time sharing during the school year and that the mother was to have all the off-school vacation time. And that the parents were to either split the costs of plane tickets or meet halfway (halfway between Washington and Florida, ROFLMAO). The judge had to redo the child support guidelines worksheet right there and the other attorney shot me the most evil look (a female attorney I've squared off with who doesn't give a fuck about allegations of abuse). My client did get hit with $5,000 in attorney's fees for his ex-wife (five grand out of twelve grand).

      The judged asked me to stay after the trial and gave me a very stern warning about threatening to go to the media. As lawyers in Florida have their first amendment right limited based on the Florida Bar when it comes to fellow attorneys and judges (you can't post opinions online).

      I also had one client, whose 12 year old daughter ran away from the mother and hitch hiked across three states to get home. The kid only called her dad after she was inside Florida and walked around a hundred miles on foot total. The father and I played cute with the court and kept trying to get the mother to tell us where the daughter was or to allow contact. For nine months the mother pretended she knew where the daughter was (was with my client). And on the day of the trial we presented evidence the mother had been lying about knowing where the daughter was. Had the grandmother walk in with the daughter and had her start talking in front of the judge. And opposing counsel was screaming objection after objection and claiming trial by ambush, which it was. And the judge got the mother to admit she had been lying about knowing where the daughter was. And the judge asked me if I had known where the daughter was and I reminded the judge I wasn't under oath nor a party to the action and the judge (a guy) laughed and decided to take an hour to speak to the kid in his chambers. It was epic and i wish we would have had a court reporter (client refused to pay for one, like a fool).

      It's a fucked up world guys.

      [–]McLarenX 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Women should not allowed to be judges. I have never known a woman to ever look at anything with impartiality.

      [–]Mildsoss 3 points4 points  (5 children)

      Wtf the ex husband had to pay for his wifes attorney fees?

      [–]Peter_Principle_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Absolutely. This is one of the ways they encourage women to file claims in court and keep the family court parasites in business.

      Here's how Oregon does it:

      https://www.stephensmargolin.com/blog/2008/03/divorce-myths-my-ex-will-have-to-pay-for-my-attorney-fees/

      Notice the very first factor the courts consider "The conduct of the parties in the transactions or occurrences that gave rise to the litigation, including any conduct of a party that was reckless, willful, malicious, in bad faith or illegal." Now pair that with how family courts handle false accusations (doesn't matter if women make them) and the Duluth Model (yelling at a woman, denying her money, or denying her affection, denying that her false accusations are true, owning weapons, telling her you're going to leave, this is considered domestic violence).

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Yeah when I got divorced I found it quite funny that although it was my ex-wife who hired the lawyer, and I had no one to represent me because I couldn't afford to hire one, it was ordered that I would have to pay for half of her lawyer. I often wondered if I had hired a lawyer, would she then have had to pay for half of my lawyer too?

      (Good joke!)

      Fortunately her mom paid for the lawyer completely presumably because she likes me better than her own daughter. She still comes to see her grandkids at my house to this day.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Usually. They make you pay for the sword that cuts you.

      [–]MuhTriggersGuise 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The Chinese send the family of the executed a bill for the bullet used in the execution. It's a shame thing.

      [–]SynfulVisions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      In Florida, my attorney was able to circumvent this by having my mother loan me the money for my legal fees, promissory note and all.

      It helped that on paper my income was exceptionally low (thanks to my LLC).

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Sound slike you try to some red pill good in the world. Keep it up.

      [–]plein_old 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It was epic

      omg awesome story thank you sir

      [–]sh0ckley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Incredible stories. Thank you.

      [–]Specter242 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Wow those truly are awesome stories but are also troubling at the same time because numerous cases like that happen but the end result isn't so epic. I really wonder if their will ever be a complete change in the entire judicial system especially the family courts where gender bias is either totally eradicated or occurs at an extremely low rate and is vilified by the MAJORITY of society

      [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The judged asked me to stay after the trial and gave me a very stern warning about threatening to go to the media.

      Fuck her. I would take it to the god damn judicial tenure commission. This is unprofessional bullying and threatening. You may not be able to criticize the judge in the media but you can present the damn facts of the case and publish how it affects your client. 1st Amendment can't be limited that much or it is judicial tyranny (aka "family court").

      [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 33 points34 points  (5 children)

      This is what happens when the legal system is set up to favor a woman's feelings over hard facts.

      [–]razormachine 29 points30 points  (0 children)

      The state says it is a significant risk to leave children alone unsupervised with sex offenders (no shit).

      Somewhere out there, there is a SJW triggered by this.

      [–]ivoryhawk 17 points18 points  (3 children)

      As a single dad with no custody agreement, this terrifes the fuck out of me. Even in cases where it's very clear that the father is the more competent parent they still lean more towards the mother. Especially when she has financial backing from someone. Had a lawyer basically tell me I was fucked unless I had a few hundred grand to spend.

      Lesson to be learned is keep your shit in your pants unless you are gonna wrap it up. There are no unicorns fellas

      [–]tb87670 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      Lesson to be learned is keep your shit in your pants unless you are gonna wrap it up. There are no unicorns fellas

      No the lesson learned is as long as women get away with shit they keep doing it and then going another step further. This will only stop once enough men start taking extra-judicial actions against both the women and the judges that allow stuff like this to happen. Tell me, would a woman pull this shit if the father trying to get his kids back was a hardcore mobster? No, she wouldn't. She knows anything near like the OP posted would have her and that molester 'disappeared' and a ton of witnesses that say they saw nothing. Ditto for judges, they would prefer to go home and be able to sleep at night.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      extra-judicial actions against both the women and the judges that allow stuff like this to happen.

      Maybe the 2nd Amendment people might have something to say about that. But I'll tell you what, that would be a horrible day.....

      [–]Battle-Scars 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      Saw a program the other day where an 11 y old went missing and ended up dead. Turns out her mom had 5 kids by 3 dads and married a known child molester. Yep, he did it and was thrown in jail. They interviewed the wife after and her comment was something to the effect that she should have made better choices in life. Took the death of her child by a man she brought into the home to wake her up. Disgusting.

      [–]alclarkey 22 points23 points  (8 children)

      "Best interests of the children"

      [–]1grubek -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

      Would it be correct to say that if the father gets more custody, their support payment get reduced and sowould the cut the justice system gets?

      [–]i_have_a_semicolon 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      Justice system doesn't take a cut from child support payments, first of all.

      Second of all, he wouldn't have to make payments at all if he was the custodial parent. I bet she would so long as she had an income.

      [–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      Justice system doesn't take a cut from child support payments, first of all.

      You're correct... kinda. It doesn't get a cut; It gets a kickback from the federal government.

      [–]smokecheck1976 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Both you and the other person that responded to you are partially correct.

      1. The state does get rewarded by the federal government for collecting child support.

      2. If the Child support is collected by wage garnishment then it first goes into an account owned by the state, which collects interest on that money until it disperses it to the awardees account. States make millions off of that interest.

      Either way, the entire system is a corrupt mess of kickbacks and incentives to do the wrong thing.

      [–]TriggeringEveryone 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      1. The state is not in the business of making a profit for the state. It's not a corporation. The "profits" go to employees, contractors, etc.

      [–]smokecheck1976 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yes, we are all aware of what giving money to politicians is going to result in. It's the same effect as giving a crack addict cocaine.

      [–]greencymbeline 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      This same exact thing happened to my (now ex) boyfriend.

      He had 3 sons with his ex-wife. She hooked up with a new guy and eventually married him. One day we saw a suspicious post on her MySpace page (this was a few years ago) hinting at her husband being accused of something by a "lying little bitch." Turns out, he had been arrested for molesting a 13-year-old daughter of a friend. However, the ex-wife never informed my boyfriend of this. We were suspicious and googled and found a newspaper article and confronted her. Keep in mind, my boyfriend probably would have never found out about this unless we had come across the post and article.

      Ex-wife stood by her husband 1,000%, calling the girl a liar out to get him, etc. She refused to believe he did anything.

      Boyfriend immediately contacted his lawyer to get custody (since they lived the majority of the time with the ex-wife and molester new husband.) They went to court but the judge allowed the ex-wife to keep custody BUT made a temporary order for the molester husband to leave the home and live elsewhere.

      After a few weeks the judge let the molester husband move back in while he underwent his trial for molestation.

      For almost a year, these kids lived under the same roof with this creep while he awaited his trial. All the while, the ex-wife defended him.

      Eventually he was found guilty of molestation and sent to prison. Ex-wife STILL stood by him. That is UNTIL she was finally able to read the court documents and victim testimony. Her husband hid it from her the whole time.

      Finally when she read the shocking details, she believed he did it. Turns out he had also raped a foreign exchange student of theirs.

      So my boyfriend is out like $10,000 in legal fees trying to protect his kids and he wasn't able to do a thing. The only saving grace is that the creep went to prison and was finally out of his kids' lives. (Of course she soon after hooked up with and married another creep with a criminal record.)

      The whole thing was heartbreaking and infuriating.

      [–]synpse 6 points7 points  (7 children)

      I'm the father to a 12 year old boy, and I have primary custody. His mom moved 4 states away and "Shanghai'd" him last summer. So, after Emergency Custody order, I got him back. Then 6 months of being tied up in the courts, I have custody.

      My other son is 7, and I could have custody if I wanted. His mother passed away a few years ago. He lives with his sisters & grandmother, in the only home he's ever known, in the same town as me. So.. I'm OK with it. We are all on good terms. No issues.

      Now.. If my ex could just pay her child support!! After I paid her for 10 years, while she raised our children "alone" (bunch of bs). And says I should move away, cuz no one can make a living here, in the area we grew up in. Yet.. she's not paying.. after hounding me for $$ for so many years. Ohhhhh, the turn-about in my life. So satisfying. I haven't even harassed her yet. and she's only like 6 months behind.

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        [–]synpse 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Yeah. while on the phone last week, i was casually asking about her "jobs", while submitting them to the PA Child support website Tip Submission page.

        I'm thinking she quit her last job because they garnished her wages. But, bar tending paychecks don't amount to much.

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          [–]Battle-Scars 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Up vote for the use of the word Shanghai'd.

          [–]synpse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Yup, he learned last summer's vocabulary word the hard way.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I would pursue her like the hounds of Hell. That is your kids money and it doesn't belong to that stranger.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Obviously this is all by design.

          [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          oh but they send me letters when a sex offender moves to my area

          [–]Battle-Scars 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          They only send those letters so the vapid whores in the trailer park know there's a new single man in town.

          [–]Enviromente 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Appreciate this post fam. We (Men) need to step it up. Women follow a swinging dick like goldfish do lights... Remember that recent story of the Mom&Boyfriend renaming the daughter 'Idiot'??? Only thing we have control over is ourselves... Ill spread this post with friends. Thx again.

          Does anyone know of a good website that has legal tips for Men in situations like this?

          [–]herewegoaga1n 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I think sometimes life as a man on this planet can be summed up as "All or nothing". Our minds are built on impulse, trauma, learning, and thousands of years of evolution and mutations. I mean, you have this poor sod pining over this situation that is literally putting his children in danger. Then you have guys like Gary Plauche who decided to be the fucking righteous hammer of god and kill the man who hurt his child. There's a whole spectrum in between these two men. But for any father worth his salt the one answer to the question: "How many people would you kill to keep your kid from getting raped or murdered?" the only answer is "All of them."

          [–]frostfire1337 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Dude, at this point we should really just get the public court number, and all go and call it once, and tell the judge what we think. Public outrage especially when it turns all the phones in a building into nonstop noisemakers is potent. And to whoever doesn't want to dox because rules and politeness and shit, this is stopping child molestation for fucks sake. If you can't accept that in this case doxxing is a benevolent act stfu or cry to your mommy but get out of the way!

          [–]boredepression 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I would have to just castrate the new husband to make sure my kids are safe! Fuck!

          [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 4 points5 points  (7 children)

          Demography is Destiny

          I blame the Krauts! America's largest ethnic diaspora is German. Germans arrived on the shores of the New World as early as 1670 and have established themselves so thoroughly that things we consider "All American" are actually very German. Examples include Sending children to Kindergarten, celebrating Christmas with a tree, and eating hot dogs and hamburgers.

          Before WWI it was common for Americans to be bilingual and many towns published newspapers in German. When the American government entered the war on the side of the English massive propaganda was used to destroy the linguistic heritage of Germans in the USA to sever the ties so many Americans had with their ethnic-Fatherland. German newspapers and magazines were curtailed. Some things don't die so easily. Even after WWI ended Americans, like Germans, were totally down with the Roman salute and things like eugenics.

          Germans have been a part of America for so long that they are America. Or at least, part of it. They've risen up through the ranks with their stereotypical hard work and attention to detail. They are our engineers, doctors, lawyers, elected representatives and judges.

          The mass cultural suicide and cuckoldry we see in Germany proper today is reflected in the German ethnics in America. Germany has committed itself to self-annihilation with the importation of radical Muslims that rape and pillage their cities with impunity, while the German people themselves reproduce at rates similar to that of the Japanese. The German state is committed to a radical feminist agenda (not unlike Sweden) that seeks to disassemble the German family and dissolve its political body into an amorphous global "community" with no history or consciousness, only an aggressive and imperialistic post-national capitalism enforced through frameworks such as the EU.

          The same rot inherent in Germany proper is in German-Americans. What you are seeing is the aftermath of that rot--that cancer--that has bubbled up, with its hosts, to the upper echelons of American society where they are passing laws and making judgments on cases. The rot is deep and there is no easy way to cut it out.

          Empires are rarely conquered by external threats. Rather, they implode. They are destroyed from within by their own inept bureaucracies, rampant corruption, shameless degeneracy, and the loss of will to go on or hope that things will ever get better.

          [–]JCCheapEntertainment 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Demography is Destiny

          Precisely. Why is it so goddamn hard for people to understand, if you import the third world, you're gonna get the third world?!

          [–]t12totalxyzb00 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          As a young German. I miss being normal

          [–]Battle-Scars 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          As an American I miss the tight ship Germany used to be.

          [–]Avskygod0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Ayy my assumptions that even though we slavs are the edgy emo of the world the germanic is the one to actually self-kill

          [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

          a kind of non related story about a kraut I met in college. at a party. I showed up and saw my friends talking with a few girls, I come up and this kraut (from Germany, not American) is there too with his friend also trying to get those girls. I come and introduce myself to everyone I don't know in the group, and to him. he asks if I'm Russian (which I am) right off the bat, I said yes. he says he knew a Russian by the same name in his high school, and then says he kicked his ass... ok... basically implying he'd kick my ass.. in front of the girls and my friends. I look at my friends and they're like wtf. so I said that my grandpa vacationed in Berlin once with his friends and for fun he ran over a bunch of Germans with his tank, implying that we won the war (and my grandpa actually was a tank division commander). the kraut didn't think it's funny and gets in my face so I decked him and sent him to sleep. now they're reaping their own seeds of progressivism and I couldn't give two shits. let em rot.

          [–]RedMoonAscendant -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

          Oh man this comment is so weird.

          [–]Jedi5241000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is a disaster waiting to happen. When it does, this man needs to sue the shit out of everyone that encouraged the mother

          [–]ChillyGator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I am beyond disgusted with family court.

          [–]Invoker11 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Court system and many other things are pure bullshit... most people are idiots so they get abused and don't try to change the insanity... The world is sick and delusional.. full of fools

          Also people are treated as property... At 15 or whatever age the kids are that she has.. I'm certain I had enough mental capacity to think for myself, more maturity then most "adults" , etc

          [–]bathwat3r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          What state is this in? Because at least here in Florida the father has the same rights as the mother so as long as the father asks for it and he has a place for the child to live he's awarded 50% custody right off the bat. In fact, as the judge told my friend, unless there's proof the father is a drug addict or alcoholic aside from not putting the child's safety at risk he basically has the same exact rights as the mother.

          I agree with you, it is messed up how some fathers are treated in a custody case...

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is a Men's Rights issue - not a Red Pill piece. Linked for sure, but you know the drill.

          On a side note - these sorts of things make me sick. Too many men have fucked things up in the past leading to these laws and others like prohibition. If there IS a link to be made here, it is that Blue Pill men can feel so screwed up that they behave in bizarre ways when they feel stuck and abused by the system they thought would respect them - yet they have no Alpha or Red Pill information to help.

          So they do weird shit (as Blue Pill men are known to do) and society has to react with laws like this.

          Let that sink in.

          [–]AdrianWerner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I hope that if something happens the man will sue that dumb ex-wife into oblivision.

          [–]Hateblade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          So I'm guessing it's also okay for him to become a school teacher or social worker dealing with children.

          No need to restrict him from areas where children are present or require that he identify himself as a sex offender, like every other one has to?

          But it's perfectly okay for him to live with children when they have a different parent willing to care for them.

          What in the god damned fuck?

          [–]ecosci 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Thats why they shame you into marriage so the state can get thier cut of money from vaginamony and child support they dont care about the kids welfare or safety unless the whore says she troubled by it, you see women try to get badboys and alphas outta jail and try to put good beta providers in jail, whos going to pay the bills?no logic right but thats what guvment is here for to pour beta out and fill with badboy monster molester our society is sick.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is one of the main reasons for the marriage strike and why so many men are opting out. The other is the let's be hypersexual until the wedding and then slowly cut off sex game. Both stem from the same thing- POWER. Husbands have been stripped of all power in marriage. Women have been given all power.

          In previous cultures men got married to have a family, a wife, a life, and the respect of society. Now they don't get a family because the kids belong to the wife. They don't get a wife but a harridan. They don't get a life but a burden. And respect? LMFAO.

          For thousands of years the wife and kids belonged to the husband and the husband literally had the power of life and death over his wife and children (be careful- believe it or not I was banned from Dalrock for saying exactly that!).

          In short, the family has been given to the wife. The children belong to the wife. The man gets to play house and family ONLY AS LONG AS THE WIFE PERMITS. The courts will back the wife in every case.

          Thus...MGTOW.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yeearrrggghhh. Grrrrrr. Me angry! Me so angry have no words, me want to punish and crush woman who did this, sex offender, judges courts, police, feminists. Aaarrrgggghhhh!!! Goddamn this fucking world. No wonder so many of us get stuck up on the anger

          [–]SouloftheVoid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          There has never been one single case of a successfully rehabilitated pedophile.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Lol I'd fucking kill the dude

          [–]DextroShade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Kidnapping is always an option, just have an escape plan and some bugs out money. Turn to carding if you need more cash. Alphabay is your friend.