Field ReportBe sure to make best friends with Chad Thundercock. It's eye-opening. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1StinkyDiaper

tl;dr: Go hang out with my very attractive best friend last night to shoot pool. Fucks a stranger in her hotel room 8 minutes after walking in the door.

Do yourselves a favor, folks - make sure that you become best friends with Chad. All ideas and beliefs about most women having self-respect, non-slutty mindsets, etc. will melt away right before your eyes.

My best friend is basically Chad Thundercock. Women go apeshit over this guy. Yes, he's in good physical shape, but he was lucky enough to be born with a face most women revere as a carving of a Greek statue. This guy has fucked every girl, her sisters, and their moms. Hell, my own sister fucked this guy. When we go out, 9 times out of 10, I'm the "less attractive" friend who doesn't get the attention he does. We'll chat with groups of gals, and they stare at him most of the conversation. Most of the time I simply accept this, roll with it, and it doesn't bother me.

But last night hit me right in the feels, and temporarily took all of the wind out of my sails.

To be fair, I get my share of compliments, women thinking I'm hot, flirting with me, etc. I am a married man, however, so I decide not to cheat; it's just not worth it.

So we arrive, and I'm just in the greatest mood, feeling buzzed off some rum, and ready to have fun. We approach the bar to get quarters. Chad puts down his money, and three girls are at the other side of the bar. One of them stares at Chad. He smiles at her, and stares until she looks away. She talks to her friends, obviously about him, and we walk away to play pool. He never says a word.

About 90 seconds later, here she comes. Now, to be honest, she wasn't my type, and not a girl I'd go for. But I'm sure many men would. We're playing pool, and he's making small talk. I'm focused on pool (it's why I'm there), and she looks at me and makes a "he's so serious" comment, instantly making me feel that she's viewing me as the "weirdo, dull friend." I could've hit back with something witty, but I was honestly focused on the game, and not some buzzed bimbo with nothing interesting to offer.

In 2 minutes, they're making out right in front of my face. In 3 minutes, Chad is grabbing her titty. In 4 minutes, she invites him up to her hotel room, and he gladly obliges. So, they leave, and there I am - all alone, with a pool table, just trying to soak it all in, simply astonished, again, at how easily highly attractive men get laid.

I have a good 20 minutes of standing around, feeling like a loser with no one to chat with, when he finally comes back downstairs, with a huge smile on his face. And I'm just thinking....holy fuck, man. You have no clue how lucky you are. This was, I think, the third girl he smashed just this week.

At this point, my momentum is gone, my mood sucks, and I just cannot stop thinking - like a little bitch - just how little effort is required from attractive men to get what all of us so desperately want. Sex.

I'm pretty sure he felt my shift in mood, and actually apologized for leaving me downstairs, and I just brushed it off as if it didn't bug me. But it did. The main reason is this: unless I lowered my standards a bit, total strangers fucking me raw within 10 minutes is not a common thing for me. It has happened, yes, but not with that tremendous amount of ease.

I slept it off, awoke the next day, and I'm back to feeling good. But it was another pill swallowed, a blatant display of the 80/20 rule, and how biology rolls the die and some people just hit the lotto, and some poor folks don't.

  • Be hot

  • If you aren't that hot, do the best you can

  • Hot guys will step in and fuck the girl you've been "working on" for a month in a single night

Bitchfest over.

[–]red_matrix 551 points552 points  (45 children)

It's the jagged razor pill we all need to take. Life is unfair by design, the sooner you realize this, the sooner you can learn how it works and how to start playing to win.

[–]mr_wiffles 102 points103 points  (2 children)

There is so much truth in this statement. And it goes beyond mating too: finances, politics, friendships, health, family and so on. NONE of these are fair, and as you said, the sooner we accept that simple truth, the sooner we can adjust strategy and start flipping the script.

[–]red_matrix 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Exactly. Don't let life just happen to you. If you approach life like a game then everything changes. Everyone should learn game theory, or at least understand the basics. There's a reason billionaires own NBA teams, and it's not to make money.

[–]clearbluwatr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What’s the reason they own nba teams ?

[–]Wolveryn 206 points207 points  (9 children)

Or you can ya know... take an LSD hit, and realise we're all part of a single consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, and that the need to win is just a part of our biological nature, until we understand our own nature we're a slave to it.... you realise sex with hot women is just another dopamine hit not unlike other drugs... we're all going to die, and no matter how good or how often one guy slams pussy it leads to no difference in happiness in the end... queue linkin park music.

Oh who am I kidding, the guys a lucky bastard.

[–]Heizenbrg 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I definitely like your take on it, sure life sucks and is unfair if you don't get bestowed with the best genes, but yea everyone dies.
Took my first hit not too long ago and it was definitely eye opening.

[–]Reunn 27 points28 points  (2 children)

I thought you were posting the Bill Hicks bit at first.

[–]CQC3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ditto, also makes you think of Third Eye by Tool right after.

[–]untonyto 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hamster down. Repeat. Hamst- death rattle

[–]yumyumgivemesome 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely the best part of taking it is that connection with the entire universe. Since that trip/connection doesn't last forever, TRP is a nice tool to help maximize the quality and frequency of our individual perceptions.

[–]MrPerfidy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely though psychedelics + observing women > observing women. I am married and do not try and get laid, but I am nevertheless fascinated by the game in play in all environments at all times, so I still keep informed and also try to remain competitive within that structure, if only for the boost to my own marriage.

So I sometimes recreationally approach and engage women, but at the escalation stage I tend to drop the W bomb and observe the deflating. I will ften keep a running internal scorecard/check list and gauge the likelihood that I could fuck this or that girl in-game. I like to think I'd do ok in my little ponds.

Tripping though, game is next level. Maybe it's being more attuned to their more subtle movement and then instinctively mirroring it- whereas with some effort I will advance to an escalation stage, if I am tripping, this is initiated just with eye contact, sometimes from across a room or through a crowd. You can just see in plain view a woman's thirst and suggestiveness and invitations.

[–]kardz33 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Well put. Gold. Someone that doesn’t take failure.

[–]TheDeadlyZebra 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I tend to believe at a certain point Transhumanism will completely alter the game of life. If we can immediately reprogram our personal genetic configuration, every man will look a lot like Chad Thundercock, and more importance will be placed on game and compiled intellect or wealth instead of on appearance.

Such a change would be revolutionary for the 80% of men lower on the ladder. Consequently, instant sex would also be more difficult for pre-existing Chads.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 205 points206 points  (30 children)

I am developing a theory that you can take the Red Pill by the oral route but it doesn't really stick until it is used as a suppository and shoved up your ass.

Of course your good looking friend is "Alpha" because, lift, and he is just "confident" with women. Yah, that's it.

[–]RedsideoftheMoon 137 points138 points  (10 children)

I’m positive most guys come here because of a bad breakup, or the unicorn of their dreams was effortlessly picked up and fucked into oblivion by someone they know.

[–]GOODLORD100 54 points55 points  (8 children)

I’m here because my ex-girlfriend of 2 years cheated on me with 6 guys. 5/6 of these guys had pretty goofy faces and no bodies. One guy was very overweight and sloppy and he sent me sextapes of them in Valentine’s Day, when she told me she was staying in because she was sick.

One guy out of 6 was a “chad” and he was the only one my girlfriend saw multiple times and talked everyday with. They met 2 days after we returned from vacation with her family. He texted me months later that he thought she was “weird” and stopped talking to her

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (7 children)

Why would this guy send you the sex gape? Did he have something against you?

[–]GOODLORD100 36 points37 points  (6 children)

He told my girlfriend that he hasn’t been laid in 4 years and until she came along and I had sex with him as a repayment for “being nice to her” when she was blacked out drunk.

I didn’t know at the time she cheated and we were still together, so he sent me the footage and told me about the other guys that she apparently told him about. He sent me screenshots of her texts too.

His reasoning for sending the sextapes was so we break up and he can get with her again. I’m not joking when I say this guy is very overweight and sloppy and ugly.

Edit: grammar

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

I don't get it. Was he trying to do you a favor by letting you know your girl was cheating on you?? If so he could've just told you instead of sending you the sex tape. If he was trying to rub it in your face then that's different and I'd be surprised cause where I'm from you get your ass kicked for doing something like that.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 21 points22 points  (0 children)

very overweight



From my experience, guys like this tend to act weird in a blue pill way, bordering omega territory, and sometimes out of revenge for “unfairness” done by his family, which spilled into his social life.

[–]untonyto 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dude so steeped in blue pill thirst that the programming has overwritten some Basic Decency 101 in his head.

[–]TheBloodEagleX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did the dude wear a fedora?

[–]AwkwardEmpath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol unicorn of their dreams. Love it.

[–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 60 points61 points  (6 children)

Yeah, last night was definitely a no-lube, right up my ass redpill moment. No matter what I ever do, I will never be as attractive as him. And that's okay - that's reality. And I can accept it.

But it's painful.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I have a very attractive friend who women hit on him all the time, he’s one of the most timid, bluepill guys I ever known, yet he slays like a raged barbarian.

Perhaps it’s a blessing in disguise, maybe you need to move to a place where your SMV will skyrocket, if you want to cheat that is.

[–]TheDeadlyZebra 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You could always go the South Korean route and smash your face into something better

[–]RedHoodhandles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If there is always someone better, nobody wins.

[–]searcher612 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Put your friend, who I am sure is top notch, in the right group of guys and he won't be. There's always someone more attractive.

Sounds like you are doing good for yourself and crushed it and are happy in the marriage ... no need for it to be painful.

The post is spot on though, shows just how easy it is for some (at least with getting laid).

[–]PaulAJK 46 points47 points  (10 children)

no, naturals are defiately a thing. I've a mate who's incredibly blue in his relationships, buts slays like a Hollywood A lister because of his height and face.

[–]richpianoooo 6 points7 points  (9 children)

so they attract andd pull but as the relationship goes on thats when if he is not mentally alpha she will see through it though.

[–]FindTheBus 21 points22 points  (4 children)

so they attract andd pull but as the relationship goes on thats when if he is not mentally alpha she will see through it though.

sounds like a nice





you got going there

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yeah this entire post was actually just proof of the black pill.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Biggest fucking cope I’ve read.

[–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

So she sees it through, leaves, and a plethora of new women stand in line to take her place.

[–]searcher612 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Assuming he is RP enough to not be stuck or broken up by the one that leaves.

[–]LeftHello 277 points278 points  (46 children)

Anyone of us can get in great physical shape, and you will notice a significant increase in how you are perceived by others. Historically, I'm a huge nerd so starting to lift was extremely difficult, but I still bust my ass in the gym, and it pays off. Chodes at the bar will look at me and say I'm "lucky" assuming I was born with muscles or something. For an extra hour of fun on the weekend, it cost me hundreds of hours in the gym. Not easy, casual hours either - I'm talking lifting to failure every time (no pain no gain). Yes part of it is genetics, but boi you can elevate yourself higher than you think.

"It takes 10 years to make an overnight success"

[–]washington_breadstix 123 points124 points  (4 children)

Preach! I've seen some guys on this subreddit who need to stop lamenting Chad Thundercock and start lamenting their body fat percentages.

[–]CuckedByTRUMP 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Hell, most trp people advocate doing a cycle or five. They aren't even advocating for you to do it the fair way.

[–]Shakydrummer 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Entirely. As my roommate put it, you really don't see how shallow people are until you get more attractive.

I spent the last year basically sticking to a 4 day a week workout regiment, diet adjusting, calorie counting, and even quit drinking. I'm seeing the difference now with how people are flirting with me and so on and so forth and if anything it's a nice incentive to stay the course.

[–]BobbyPeru 54 points55 points  (2 children)

Same here. I lifted regularly in high school and I couldn’t get over 145 lbs, 6’ tall. But, I wanted it so bad, that I lifted every set to fail. Changing diet to add calorie and protein was key too. I went from being the skinniest high schooler you’ve ever seen to a pretty jacked dude.

I’m near 50 and in the best shape of my life. Why? Because I never stopped.

[–]Batmansiphone 10 points11 points  (0 children)

At 6'4 I could never get over 150lbs in high school. At uni just kept trying to add calories, im up to 5000 a day just to increase by about a lb a month. Almost always full and bloated, but at the end of the day boy is it worth it.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"It takes 10 years to make an overnight success"- im putting this as my phones wallpaper

[–][deleted] 163 points164 points  (30 children)

If you think HE has it good, imagine the life of an equally attractive woman. Just sit back and contemplate that for a few minutes - how exponentially amazing a beautiful woman has it. Hell, men pay money just to look at pictures of sexy women! Let me repeat that - men pay money just to look at an image of them. Let that sink in.

[–]Knives91 59 points60 points  (13 children)

But an ugly woman has it worst of all. Haha

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (1 child)

You'd be surprised. As long as they're not a pinhead circus freak looking uggo and have a decent social circle they can get dick. Trust me.

I was in the elevator at my school last year and overheard some fat gross chick I'd consider to be a 2 maybe 3 bragging to her friend about cheating on her BF. I mean her BF was probably a weak dick chump but thats still an option.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Their ability to cheat is their measure of their success. Not even so much the SMV of the boyfriends (unless he's an obvious outlier).

[–]WalterEArmstrong 17 points18 points  (0 children)

There's NO woman so homely, obese and stinky that some pathetic wretched excuse for a male won't prong her.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 88 points89 points  (9 children)

An HB3 guy has is way worse than a HB3 woman. Not even close.

[–]CuckedByTRUMP 18 points19 points  (7 children)

I think he means potential wise. An HB3 guy can become successful and get women who want him for his desirable traits of being talented in the world of business or just straight up gold digging.

An HB3 woman? She's screwed. No amount of degrees, business success, etc. is going to get some good looking guy to want her. I mean actually want. Plenty of women actually want people like elon musk. Musk is ugly as sin. Look at pictures of him. I mean really look. The dude is an HB3. If he was fatter he would be an HB2. He had to get hair implants to not be bald since his twenties. Women would line up to take his sperm donations at a sperm bank. They would want his children with no financial incentive.

Not a man in the world would want an HB3's eggs. I mean, if she was like joan of arc or some badass 1 in 20 billion woman who changed the fate of the whole world and your son having her as a mother would be helpful to him I guess maybe but everyone likely goes with the tall chick with good genetics and a good degree. They don't care at all if she reached billionaire status.

I am rambling, it's late but I hope I got the feeling of what I think he was saying across.

[–]zephyrprime 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She can lose weight. Losing weight is a lot easier and faster than becoming a body builder. Even if she has an ungly face, just losing weight can boost her to a 5-6.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Idiot religious guys marry HB3 for love and her apparent inability to cheat hahaha.

[–]padrehopeccato 14 points15 points  (6 children)

I think, a part from casual sex, life as a hot woman must be horrible. No one is interested in knowing you and everybody tries to manipulate you

[–]LuvBeer 21 points22 points  (3 children)

As a man, are people actually interested in knowing you? Or are they primarily interested in what you can do for them? I suspect this is merely human nature.

[–]TheBloodEagleX 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Everything feels like a transaction the older I get. Only person I trust and really care about is my father.

[–]SelfTaughtPiano 2 points3 points  (0 children)

get the fuck outta here with that BP thinking.

She could have a million nice betas if she wanted.

[–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 11 points12 points  (7 children)

Lol, it's fucking amazing, isn't it? If reincarnation is real, I hope I come back as a smoking hot female model.

[–]SomeCoolNickname 19 points20 points  (5 children)

You don't actually want this. Nor do you really want to be your hot dude friend. Being either of these does not incentivize growth...

[–]AttackOnKvothe 8 points9 points  (4 children)

What is better, though?

Growth, or having 70 years of easy and fun and great life?

[–]trpcounsel 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Lol what? It's 30 years of easy and fun and great life. Post-Wall they're all miserable. Are you new here?

Edit: Spelling

[–]SomeCoolNickname 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They don't have this great life you're thinking of, hah :D.



Factors that don't correlate much with happiness include: age, gender, parenthood, intelligence, physical attractiveness, and money (as long as you're above the poverty line).

[–]thefisherman1961 129 points130 points  (11 children)

Sometimes all you have to do is go to a bar and exist, and a hot 21 year old piece of ass whose got a couple drinks in her will just come up to you and try to get you to fuck her ASAP.

[–]StudntRdyTeachrApear 56 points57 points  (2 children)

This happened to me five times this summer. Living in a tourist beach town is cheating though.

[–]leviathan51 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Could you please elaborate?

[–]thefisherman1961 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You're just chilling at the bar, she's horny and a little tipsy, she comes up to you and starts flirting with you after you make eye contact.

You don't need much game either because if a girl wants you she makes it really easy for you. Only requirement for game at that point is to not be an aspie fuck and just escalate sexual tension mostly through body language. Easier when you've had a couple drinks too.

[–]301niko 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It's all about her mood she's in at the moment. So anyone can fuck if they time it right.

[–]matisseman 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Or go to any place with a dance floor and bust a move like you don't give a fuck, generally have fun just dancing by yourself or with friends, and babes will be drawn to you. Can do wonders for you if you're not Chad.

[–]thefisherman1961 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Guys who don't have an excellent sense of rhythm should not be dancing, ever. And if you're going to dance, for fuck's sake dance to the beat and not to the melody. Unless your goal is to look as white as possible

[–]NotAnotherSJWAgain 38 points39 points  (5 children)

There's a guy I work with who moonlights as a male model, roughly same age as me. He's the 'after' picture on an actual product out there. He looks so good it is aesthetically pleasing to look at him even for me. I joke with him that I did not realize how unfair life was when I was working so hard to get laid in high school and college - I was competing against people like him, no wonder it was hard! Anyway, he works for me now. Makes a tiny fraction of what I make. Has an unremarkable girlfriend. I would take his youth over mine in a milisecond. But at this age, my life is much better than his. Not sure what to make of all this. Perhaps a realization that if you have it too easy then maybe you don't strive as hard and in the end talent only takes you so far, you need to put in the work? I don't know.

[–]1OneRedYear 29 points30 points  (1 child)

I had a buddy like that. We called him Kelso. He was a tall sculpted greek god. We used to work out together. Seriously, he could get two women fighting over him with a few glances. He was a total dudebro stoner. All he did was eat, lift, smoke and fuck bitches with the occasional bit of work when he couldn't find some milf to leech off of. Now he's pushing 40 with zero skills and getting fatter. But he still pulls the older broads for sugar mamas and cheats with the younger ones. But the quality of both isn't as high as it used to be. Still does better than me though. He was always such a good, generous and cool dude you couldn't really hate on him for having a charmed life.

[–]electricspresident 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I find most of them, the genuinely good looking dudes face wise have this chill attitude. In this sense they don't get cocky arrogant or whatever. They just enjoying how easy it is for them but they don't go about showing off or putting others down in any context - girl or no girl. How nice it must be to be super naturally attractive.

[–]CQC3 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Honestly, guys in here are disproportionately uh...susceptible to feeling irritated at an uber Chad. Nobody here wants to hear this due to the nature of this sub, but is getting laid all the time really the only thing in life? Like is there really nothing more to life for some of these dudes?

I get it, I'm not downplaying needing to get laid, or wanting it. But how often is enough? I think that number varies man to man. If you wanna chase good looking pussy as a life goal then go for it, but I suspect many men here just have issues with themselves that they want to remedy by the validation of getting laid all the time. So much so that seeing really good looking guys get laid easily gets them down DESPITE the fact that they're no slouches themselves. It's not like an incel looking at Chad and feeling hurt, it's guy who are already getting laid (according to them) still looking at Chad enviously. It just strikes me as a mentality of "more is not enough".

More is not better. I think that is why so many notable men in history have advocated for some greater pursuit than day to day affairs in their lives, not because ordinary life is unworthy of interest, but it behooves a man to pursue something more than just trivial pleasures.

No amount of interest from women will rival the contentment of working hard and achieving something for yourself, investigating the world as a child would or cultivating awareness of something interesting to you. Ironically, outside the party sphere, it is this interest in other things that makes a man more attractive to the opposite sex.

[–]NotAnotherSJWAgain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hear you. By the same token your body produces sperm constantly. Men can get horny every day or even more frequently. Just a biological reality.

[–]Raikkonen716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wise words dude, this should have much more upvotes. Life is so much more than getting laid in big quantity.

Just look at the most successfull people on this planet. Politicians, entrepreneurs, actors, musicians, artists, and so on. How many of them look like Greek gods? Trump has a weird face, Putin is 5'6" at maximum, just battling in height with Al Pacino.

Sex is an important part of life, but there is a reason why some extremely successfull people aren't having sex all the time with an unlimited number of models, even if they easily could. As you, i suspect that a lot of people here are in love with the idea of receiving attention from a lot of hot women and the gelousy of their male friends, but it's just a whim that comes from the desire of validation. As someone put it here on TRP, having sex is great, but nobody ever found the meaning of life between the legs of a woman.

[–]Raikkonen716 60 points61 points  (4 children)

"To be a 10, it's an extraordinary thing. We look like you, but we're not like you. It's like, we're from another planet, where force of gravity is so strong, it bends the light. It bends people too."

I have some friends like that, and it is depressing, yeah. It fucking sucks knowing that some people will live the dream, will get laid like warlords, will have more chances to land a great career, just because of their genetics. Not joking, they live in a different world.

So how should one react? By surrendering and getting depressed like some people on the internet recently do? No, one shold know that there is no point in looking at the success of others. The best way to react to this is by man up, accepting how nature works, and do as much as possible to maximize oneself and its experiences. Some people will have it easier, yeah, but envying the success of others won't give you a single benefit. Good news is, an average can get laid, can attract girls, can be successfull. We know how, thanks to this subreddit.

[–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

The funny thing is that I know and am aware of all of these principles. I've been friends with the guy for 13 years now, and he's always pulled the hotties. I guess last night was just a reminder of what I thought I'd dealt with already - that, no matter what I do, I'll never have the raw genetic advantage that he has.

Accepting that can be hard.

[–]Morphs_ 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's not your game to play in this life. Almost no man does. I've been in your position often enough to know it can sing at your self worth. Just become the best version of you.

Few realize how good they have it. That includes you btw. The fact that you live in a western country makes you richer than 99% of the earth population.

[–]WalterEArmstrong 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You may have heard this already but LIFE AIN'T FAIR!! Get over it.

[–]yumyumgivemesome 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Additional good news is that by being men in today's society, we don't have to worry about aging the way women do. By sheer luck we won the very first genetic coin toss in life. It annoys me when fellow men bitch about how easy women supposedly have it. Just shows that those guys aren't paying attention and have so much to learn.

[–]SILENTSAM69 62 points63 points  (9 children)

Grew up with him as a buddy. Watched him do the funniest thing to this one girl in particular.

Back in high school he gave her a ride home, and nothing happened. One of our buddies who use to loo up to him was all convinced that "Chad" banged her. Talked about it she she hated "Chad" for spreading the rumor.

Years later I was talking to one of her friends when she found out I was friends with "Chad." She told me the story, and I told her it was the other guy who spread the story, not "Chad." She quickly changed her tune to saying she didn't ink "Chad" would do such a thing. So for fun I got her number and gave it to him and told him about the conversation.

So that night she came by his house during a party. We laughed while I joked about what trash she was. He banged her and then made her wait outside for a cab to go home at 3am when she wanted to spend the night. The next day a new buddy didn't believe it happened so he called her again and again banged her and sent her home in a cab at 3am when she wanted to stay the night.

Most RP stuff just seems obvious when I grew up with him as a buddy. Good guy who got a hot small town girl who had only ever been with one guy as his wife now. He was smart enough to never commit to a slut.

[–]mishasam89 23 points24 points  (8 children)

The 3 am thing...

I don't get it, don't these girls have any 'pride'?

[–]SILENTSAM69 44 points45 points  (6 children)

That was what I couldn't believe. He made her leave the house and wait outside to call and wait for the cab since he had to work in the morning.

The fat that he did it two nights in a row is what was saddest. I can't believe she came back after the first night.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

I'd be worried about getting falsely accused of rape or something. I'd just let her stay over, make up an excuse about having to get up at 6AM for work.. Or at least let her wait in my place lmao

[–]SILENTSAM69 27 points28 points  (2 children)

We were young and never considered that type of thing back then. It was around 2000.

[–]Sensei_Hensei 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I bet she's a mess these days.

[–]SILENTSAM69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hard to say. I would expect her to be married with children by now, but have no idea what happened after she graduated... if she did.

[–]JackWithTheHammer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Instinct is one hell of a drug

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When an alpha says go, you go. Thats how shit rolls

[–]RedIntrovert 19 points20 points  (1 child)

That’s life, son.

In your defence, these girls know subconsciously that the best of the best are not really relationship material so they just want 20 minutes lol

It’s up to you to look your best.

[–]tallwheel 12 points13 points  (0 children)

In your defence, these girls know subconsciously that the best of the best are not really relationship material so they just want 20 minutes lol

That just makes it all the better for Chad, since usually 20 minutes is all he needs from them.

[–]fromthecrypt8 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Wow. That feeling you described after receiving her comment on you being so serious, is the exact same feeling I’ve had when I am out with my friend who is Chad minus (hes pulling 7-8s with that ease). I can imagine it’s almost like the feeling of being cuckolded. It’s a horrible feeling. It’s like in the presence of a more attractive man, they’re not even recognizing you and are being catty at you for potentially vag-blocking them from fucking a real man.

Great example of the 80/20 rule.

[–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Dead-on, man. I know TRP members would love me to lie and say this didn't affect me at all, but it did, in exactly the way you describe. I was a mouse, he was a cat. I was a UCONN women's b-ball player, he was Lebron James on that court.

There's just no competing with that.

[–]450k_crackparty 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Hey I know that feel. I also have a good friend who is natural Chad. Basically the complete embodiment of TRP with no awareness of it. Honestly I just started to avoid going out with him if it was just the 2 of us hanging. No matter how good I am, how high energy, girls would see me as a pawn to get to him. It's eye opening and often hilarious to watch him effortlessly slay, but also kind of demoralizing. Really takes the wind out of your sails.

I'm fine at picking up girls in most other situations, but when next to a natural, forget about it.

[–]fromthecrypt8 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is your friend blessed with good looks? Or is it mostly other stuff that makes him attractive?

[–]banjew 107 points108 points  (26 children)

To be fair, it's worst for girls. If you were born a 2, then good luck, you can at most, be a 4 with all effort at 19, and then it goes all down from there. And you WILL end up a spinster, alone. That's why nuns exist.

If you were born a 10, and you are not stupid, you will end at 23 married to a millionaire, and fucking all the chads you want behind is back. Think about it, millionaire at 23. Just for being born with a cute face and big tits, while his fat friend is frantically running in a treadmill and doing shifts at McDonald's.

What I want to know is: This girl, was a 9? was a 7 at least? When I see histories of chads fucking girls in 15 minutes, it's because of a huge difference in SMV, I mean if the girl is a 6, and the guy is a 10, yes, she will fuck him in 10 minutes. Go speak to a fatty in a bar, she will also fuck you in 10 minutes.

If this guy fuck as much as you say, he maybe is eating a lot of fatties for lunch ;)

[–]gELSK 62 points63 points  (5 children)

// , Here's the thing, though.

You will ALWAYS have a guy who will go after you. Always.

The same is just not true for men.

Think about it. If a woman walks into a bar, uuuuuuusually there is a guy, some guy, in that bar, who is thinking, "hmm, I would take that home. Maybe hit it from the back."

The same cannot be said for men.

[–]banjew 37 points38 points  (4 children)

The same cannot be said for men.

If you ask 1000 times to 1000 girls that are under a 5, you will fuck dozens. But possibly you will regret it, lol.

[–]WalterEArmstrong 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There's sumpt'n to be said about having some pride in yourself and not stick'n yer dick into just anything with two tits and a twat.

[–]ThrowFader 13 points14 points  (1 child)

definitely not possibly.

5s are disgusting

[–]lordkrink 49 points50 points  (11 children)

Any girl can be attractive, she just need to be skinny and train her butt muscles, easy-peazy.

[–]NibblyPig 54 points55 points  (8 children)

Just don't eat like a hippo. It really is that simple.

Sadly for guys it's don't eat like a hippo, also eat carefully and go to the gym 3+ times a week and do sports.

[–]lordkrink 32 points33 points  (6 children)

Any girl with a bubble butt automatically becomes a HB7, they're privileged in every sense.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Seriously, saw this girl the other day with an amazing latina maid ass, the type you see in pornos, 18ish with a 4 face. I wanted to fuck her brains out, more than a pretty face plain body type girl you can find anywhere else in town.

The ass gave her priviledge for sure.

[–]washington_breadstix 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Women like that are why god invented doggy style.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

hashtag bubblebuttprivilege

[–]MyStepdadHitsMe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So fucking true hahah especially when makeup exists.

[–]36Drareg 6 points7 points  (2 children)

59 points. and this is about as blue pilled as a post can be. Oh this stud fucks alot of girls quickly, they MUST be ugly fatties.

[–]blacklightsleaze 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Agree. I have close Chad friends too and they never fucked ugly women and you see them only with +7s. While the average guys usually fuck 4-5s and rarely they get lucky with 6s and 7s.

It's ridiculous how easy if for hot looking guys(tall,wide shoulders, hot face) to fuck hot girls, like they are meant for each other. I was at some beach body competition with my Chad friend and in the morning before the competition the fucked some of these instagram fitness models. It was like 5 min talk about fat levels and dehydration, she found an excuse in front of me to invite him in her room. It was fucking obvious why she invited him and what is going to happen, you can see in their eyes. After 15 mins he came back to our room, I asked him what happened and he told me with chill voice that the fucked her, like it was not a big deal for him to fuck 9s.

[–]drizzleforrizzle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do these mofos look like lol

[–]Andgelyo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

^ This. So what if he’s a Chad. An average dude can bang a fatty deprived of dick just because she’s hungry. I’m only giving him major props if he’s banging a fit non whale girl.

[–]banjew 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My friend is tall, not really handsome but not ugly. He fuck tons of girls. I'm speaking 2 o 3 different each week. It's insane the amount of pussy he gets, he's famous for that.

Then, most girls he fuck are fatty, single mothers, girl over 40 and always less than a 4. Also he always tell them he's a engineer (he works at a supermarket).

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Ahh, but my question is, has Chad smashed your wife yet??

[–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Wouldn't surprise me at this point, lol.

[–]Reanimated1 31 points32 points  (10 children)

I have about a 9 face but started balding around 25. Killed my confidence for a couple years until I owned it, shaved the shit off, and compensated by packing on 80 pounds of muscle.

Lemme tell you - the big muscles pull wool all on their own. I’m not saying muscles can make up for a 4 face, but they can help even then. Other things you can do - make sure your fucking teeth are sorted. My teeth are perfectly straight and I make sure they stay nice and white - that goes a long way and can help with a less than perfect face.

But do not underestimate the power of a muscular body. I’ve had girls fuck me just because of my arms (saying shit like “big arms are my thing”). Had a plate for a while who every time we fucked wouldn’t cum until she started grabbing my chest. I’d flex and she’d pop.

Point being, absolutely do not underestimate the wool-pulling power of muscle.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Muscles like clothes are a compliment.

[–]Imakesensealot 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I don't think you have any idea what 80bpunds of muscle looks like.

[–]Reanimated1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I went from 130 to 210 and am lean.

Not sure what you’re talking about other than just making a (lame) attempt at throwing shade.

[–]Imakesensealot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, I'm saying that you gained muscle and fat and there's nothing wrong with that. You can't out on 80 pounds of bare lean muscle even on roids. It's just not possible.

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[–]squarehead93 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This is an issue that seems to befall a lot of "naturals." These guys were naturally good looking and charismatic, so they probably never understood why they were so successful with women. They just were. And then they marry a high school sweetheart and get old and fat and lazy and wonder what went wrong.

That's why TRP is such an invaluable resource. By teaching you the "why" and not just the "how," even a non-natural can up his game and avoid the same pitfalls.

[–]RedsideoftheMoon 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Your friends sound like losers. Work on your fucking careers boys. Chase your ‘mission’ as they say on here. Have vision. Chad or no chad, you can make something of your life and then when you’re 45 you’ll be a master of life and women will be cake. I know plenty of dudes in their 40’s who have been fucking BEAUTIFUL women consistently (obviously not pickup artist levels) since they were 20 because their first priority was figuring their lives out

[–]Andgelyo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I fucking love this comment. As a late twenties male, who lifts, dresses nice, and has a promising career in the health care field, I couldn’t agree more. Most of my friends are balding already and have dead end jobs, or got married and getting fucked in the ass financially and spiritually by their wives.

[–]Pluglord 10 points11 points  (0 children)

How is that silver lining? Just sounds like you were a shitty jealous "friend" who couldn't wait for their downfall.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s something I noticed about married friends that have kids.

They prematurely aged, I know one who’s hair is greying, the other started to have wrinkles.

All of them below 30 years of age.

[–]RatioRegnum 68 points69 points  (19 children)

I am that guy - over 6', fit, good looking, and smarter than the average bear. Fastest from "Hi" to sex has been under 2 minutes. I once made out with five women simultaneously (not as much fun as it sounds, BTW, you can't properly enjoy them). I could go on, but you get the point. Not bragging, I was dealt a winning hand.

But here's the thing.

It took me a long time to understand and put to use the advantages I have. I'm not a natural. My upbringing was horrible, I had zero self confidence. When I was young, women would throw themselves at me and I didn't close the deal because, despite all the evidence in my face (sometimes literally) I simply could not believe they were actually interested. I had to work on that, and at first I didn't even know what I was working on. The most girl-successful guy I knew in my highschool peer group was 5'4, halfway ugly, who walked, to quote another peer, "Like a duck with an egg up its ass", due to some condition for which he spent grade school in Forrest Gump style leg braces. He was an insecure, overcompensating fucktard, and to cap it off, he sported this ridiculous half-grown mustache because that was all the facial hair he could produce. However overcompensation was close enough to confidence for the girls, and confidence was what counted. I wouldn't say he slayed in high school, but he did well.

Fast forward to today, and he's a fat and balding plumber who failed at his dream, still insecure and overcompensating - but he still comes forward with hustle and I have to hand him that.

The equation is...

everything else X game = results

Everyone has at least a little in the everything else column, but if you have no game, you are nowhere.

[–]BreakingRed_ 32 points33 points  (5 children)

This rings a bell with me. Because of an accident that I had when I was young and my parents being uneducated to the point of agreeing with something unspeakable to my upbringing, I ended up lacking in self-esteem. Now that I got redpilled I can look back and realize that there were girls chatting me up, there was even a cute blonde that basically everyone railed and she was flirting me hard but I was such a virgin pussy I basically saw her as a man with breasts.

The shit your environment will do to you. People would kill to have my height or my young looks. I'm 6'2, low body fat, haven't stepped in a gym since forever and I look 10 years younger in my 30's. The vast majority of AFC's would love to have half of my biological dice roll, yet here I was in my room bitching and being depressed and unemployed.

Having a good roll of the dice but no game is like winning a Lamborghini but you can't drive for shit. Well, bad example because you can at least sell the car but you get the point.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Actually that is a good example because you could still sell your body /s

[–]BreakingRed_ 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I'm totally doing that post-death, for science.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

but why wait until post-death???

[–]untonyto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

At first it was all I could manage to NOT facepalm. Second time around I doublefacepalmed the fuck out of my face.

[–]mishasam89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so wait,

did you ever get out of this situation?

[–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Thanks for the post, Chad. I've always had a clinical social and generalized anxiety, so that certainly doesn't help things much. I understand all of the redpill philosophy, but I'll totally admit that I still get nervous around attractive women, and can tend to "hyperfocus" on a hot female present, trying to impress her or gain attraction from her, and that's obviously a great way to shoot yourself in the foot.

[–]Sonic324 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Even after all the experience you had you still get anxious from time to time? That's eye opening for someone like me still trying to overcome the first hurdles of anxiety. Mind sharing what you enjoyed the most in overcoming the greater part of anxiety?

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I gather he didn't get past it.

Read the Stoics- The Enchidron by Epictetus and most important The Meditations of Marcus Aralius if you want to learn how to "get past your anxiety."

Hint: Learn how to NGAF because a man (or woman) only has the power over you that YOU GIVE HER.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I'm not tall, but I have everything else going for me. Looks (besides height), intellect, money, etc. Growing up in an abusive household hamstrung me for years, though. I still got laid and had some decent relationships, but it was mostly pity-sex/dating. I didn't really start to get what I wanted until I started working on my game and confidence. I couldn't agree more that confidence/game is the most important thing. Everything else can magnify that, but without it, you won't really get anywhere.

[–]1OneRedYear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had nothing going for me when I was young, except that I didn't care. I wasn't ugly or handsome, just short and average. But dammit if I didn't swing for the fences in college and hit a few homeruns. Worth it.

[–]MysterManager 8 points9 points  (1 child)

You can knock fat and balding, but I live in a metropolitan area and many plumbers charge $300 an hour it’s a no joke profession.

[–]WalterEArmstrong 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing there's lots of doctors and lawyers who secretly wish they'd become plumbers.

[–]420KUSHBUSH 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agreed. No matter how attractive you are if you don't have the slightest semblance of game then I believe you strike out very very fast

[–]Jeffornaut 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I think one of the biggest RP attributes was when you mentioned how he looked at the girl, smiled, and maintained eye contact until she looked away (submitted). First impression shit test passed

[–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's good stuff. Him and I discuss redpill philosophy ad nauseum.

[–]BreakingRed_ 31 points32 points  (18 children)

Being a natural Chad is like being a natural scientist. You get to realize that the distribution of any human trait is not only Pareto-like but the top 20% will simply be a league on their own. I recall a lecture I was watching a few years ago with someone explaining this to the IQ difference between 125 and 135. It's like the 135 makes 125 look like a monkey struggling with a banana.

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    [–]askmrcia 10 points11 points  (3 children)

    Reminds me when I was in high school. This kid was the top sprinter in the state. Ran 10.2 - 10.4 100 meter dash times like it was nothing.

    Think he trained hard? Nooope. Ate a lot of McDonald's and slacked off a shit ton of times during practice. Some people just got it.

    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    I went to Ezekiel Elliot's first high school football game. We had all been hearing the hype for the first couple weeks of school, and I'm thinking, "man, this guy is 15 years old, no way he's going to be that much better than the guys that are seniors." First carry, and it's like he's shot out of a fucking cannon. No one on the defense even lays a finger on him.

    That same year, the dude broke practically every sprinting record in the state. And then subsequently broke every single sprinting record (his own records) the next three years. And now he's the starting running back for the fucking Dallas Cowboys.

    No amount of training will let any of us reach that level of athleticism. The good news is, you don't have to be Zeke levels of athletic to pick up chicks.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Not exactly a monkey or banana but I can confirm that extra 10 sure helps with math, physics, and organic chemistry!

    [–]marlan_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    As another random example, in Dota: 7000 rating is the top 0.00001% while 5000 rating is the top 0.1%

    The 7000 player will run circles around the 5000 player and make him look like an ape.

    [–]gELSK 2 points3 points  (9 children)

    // , If you have sources for this, I always love the science posts, here.

    I'm also preparing a presentation for my fam, and would like more ammo for our debate.

    [–]3whatsthisgarg 6 points7 points  (8 children)

    I'm also preparing a presentation for my fam, and would like more ammo for our debate.

    whoa whoa whoa whoa

    are you seriously going to talk about TRP to people you actually know? bad idea, usually, but I want to hear about how it goes

    [–]washington_breadstix 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Although this situation has never happened to such an extreme extent in my life, I've definitely experienced being the "less attractive friend" a.k.a. the guy who gets called "weird" and "serious" while I'm fucking standing right there. It sucks, but for the past few months I've been making a serious effort to turn it into my motivation instead of a reason to sulk and lament the guys who are more attractive than me. I've been lifting like crazy and putting more effort into the way I dress and style my hair, etc. But above all, I've been working on acceptance of the fact that I only have control over my own fate in life. There will always be some other guy who gets pussy more often / more easily than I do and I have to be able to live with that fact. Fixating on those guys is a waste of my time and energy.

    [–]SD14BaBs 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    Whenever I see posts like this I always want to see what this dude in question looks like... Could you provide some stats ? Like height and maybe a look-a-like picture or something.

    [–]Sol4ace 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    To be honest, if you're not getting that much action, dont be afraid to lower your standards.

    Don't fuck whales or very unattractive, but still go for the 7/10.

    I used to have this mentality where I would only pay attention to the hottest girl in the room. When I entered college I realized I couldnt just go for the 10/10's so I started approaching less attractive girls and it has paid off very well.

    Prior to changing my mentality I had only had sex with 3 different women. That number tripled within 3 months. Sure I'm a lot fitter than I used to be due to working out a lot and having a strict diet but my attitude is what changed everything.

    [–]youngchappa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Same here, would only go after 8s and 9s.. got laid a few times in a year.. Changed my mentally and not be so picky / stuck up about how hot the girl I get with is.

    So just been on tinder banging 7s and 6.5s

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    [–]mishasam89 1 point2 points  (0 children)


    great motivation to get married..

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    [–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    His wardrobe is completely irrelevant to his success. He can wear dirty jeans and shit boots and still slay vaj all day.

    [–]massivewang 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I know three guys who have top tier dead sexy model looks. When we go out women approach them, give them their numbers, try to pick them up/seduce them etc. it’s nuts!

    They’re all typical all American confident athlete types, but none of them have particularly fascinating/complicated game (and why would you when it’s that easy?).

    The genetic lottery is real!

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    Honestly if your friend wasn't a confident guy that wouldn't have happened. He would have saw the chicks looking at him, then broke eye contact cause he's worried about them thinking he's a pervert or something. Instead, he eye fucked her and it gave her incentive to approach him.. The same way a girl winks at you and you take it as a green light to go over and chat her up.

    One of my best friends growing up worked really hard and wound up being pretty alpha in his early 20s and would pull shit like this too. He was still not that good looking, but he played in a pretty successful underground rock band and hosted some killer parties. This kid would bring a girl to his bedroom and fuck her while his girlfriend was in the living room chatting up some beta orbiter.

    Personally, I have to admit.. I'm still pretty cowardly in social situations despite being a good looking dude and getting IOIs from women fairly frequently. Also it doesn't make sense cause I'm pretty NGAF with everything else. I love skateboarding and regularly bust my ass doing it. I have horrible social anxiety and it's something I constantly try to overcome but the amount of energy it takes is so draining. I would've been the guy staring at my feet and watching the ball go right down the center as the umpire yells "STRIKE!"

    Your friend inspires me to NGAF and try to make moves. I'm going home from school for the break and I know there's a bunch of thotty chicks back home who I know are down to fool around. I'm gonna make some fucking moves.

    [–]rigbed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I hate being a college student potential Chad with social anxiety

    [–]MarcosDomingues 36 points37 points  (8 children)

    I think we need to create another Incels sub, because they're already invading this one

    [–]11-Eleven-11 6 points7 points  (5 children)

    I was thinking the exact same thing. Reddit should have let incels have their shitty corner so they will stay away from subs like this.

    [–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

    Ehh, this post of mine blew up for a reason - people here relate to it. I am absolutely not in this mindset much of time. Last night was just a redpill-up-the-ass moment that left my colon sore, and I felt I needed to share.

    [–]mishasam89 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Can you please state your and Chad's ages as well as the girl's? This would help tremendously..

    [–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Me: 33. Him: 31. Her: probably mid 20s.

    [–]TheNextMilo 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    I agree. Some people just have perfect faces. I do combat sports and my nose is fucked up. The bridge is crooked. On the flip side, I have a very lean and muscular body, which only looks a little out of shape when I must pack on weight. I think another thing to add is that you should focus on what you can control.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Chicks dig scars.. tell them how your nose got fucked up and I guarantee you'll see a spark in her eye.

    [–]freethinker1976 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's unfair but we can't blame women for going for Chad. These guys are so at ease with themselves and so confident that they will probably still do great with women ones their looks fade.

    [–]jonpe87 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    "he's so serious" comment, instantly making me feel that she's viewing me as the "weirdo, dull friend."

    Here you lost your chance I think.

    [–]1WidmerBeer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    We know there was no chance from the start. The woman was purposely isolating him from his friend to set boundaries early on to 1) Show she's only gunning for Chad 2) To make Chad think that she's his SMV equal. Chad is always the target.

    Honestly OP, It's cool to be happy for a friend, but it's understandable if you were unhappy about standing alone for 20 minutes. In the words of some old friends that pulled lots of women, "Fuck you if you ain't down with the whole crew."

    [–]amekooky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    yep.. i was roommates with chad for a year, after he pumped and dumped on average 4 or more a week (HB7+) it really changed my perspective on women.

    He was cool though, he would always try and hook me up with chicks he wasnt interested in.

    [–]brinkleybuzz 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    simply astonished, again, at how easily highly attractive men get laid.

    I've been in the game over 20 years and have seen plenty of attractive men who couldn't get laid because they didn't have game. I've also seen plenty of butt ugly men who did get laid regularly because they had game, status, personality or something else that made them stand out.

    Lyle Lovett got plenty of tail in his heyday.

    Same for fat-ass Patrice O'Neal.

    The formula is simple. Be awesome, stand out and get laid.

    [–]richpianoooo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    lol i recently started working in a new country and so as i got to know people i started hanging out with this black guy model bastard anyways we go to the club i look to my left and hes already pulled and its not even been 3 min im like ok im just happy to be here i guess hahahah. fml but i am now starting to pick up my game as i feel i can learn from him. i cant help the genetics but i can surly use how he made me feel that night to lift more and game more to get better i might not get the whole bakery but a pie and a slice of cake is also good. but yea the crazy ripped tall chiseled jaw does help

    [–]_DiscoNinja_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    They should call it the red suppository.

    [–]gaki123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    This post is complete shit. This shit doesn't illustrate 80/20 dynamics Lmao. This guy is AT LEAST top 0.5%. It's comparing yourself to a billionaire and getting sad because you are not one (like 99.99% else). Completely bullshit useless incel shit.

    [–]1ozaku7 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    What would you do if you would be a decent looking woman that gets all the dick in the world offered to her? Ofcourse, you pick your best option out of many. It's like all the car dealerships offering you cars, free to use for moths. Eventually you just start dicking around, taking test drives without actually buying the car, and then just go for the Lambo, the most valuable car.

    It's shocking to see it actually happen in person, yes, but the fact remains that this is how the dynamic works.

    [–]VoidInvincible 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Is it his face? Muscles? Or height? Is he just really good looking and average height

    [–]victor_knight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    And if you happen to be Chad, don't forget to share her with your friends.

    [–]DopeMeme_Deficiency 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yes it is. Ive been in this same situation, and while my lot isn't the worst, oh man how nice it must be to be king. Fuck

    [–]prodigy2throw 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Unless you are planning to get plastic surgery there isn’t much to learn from a Chad like that. The only wake up call you’ll get is to finally see raw hypergamy in action.

    More often than not a Chad is a guy who is maxed out on looks and waits for pussy to fall on his lap.

    You want to really learn, follow the guy who looks like shit but bags models and pornstars. That’s the guy who has maxed out status and game and that’s who you want to follow around and learn from.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Am I missing something here? I see loads of comments on this thread whinging about facial vs body attractiveness.. I thought part of taking the red pill was realizing that, while they help, looks are not nearly as important on a guy as they're made out to be. Most of a man's SMV comes from non-sheer physical attractiveness.

    Sure, some people are born way luckier than others, and it gets their foot in the door far easier with women, but physical attractiveness alone isn't going to get you very far as a dude. OP's friend's good looks got the ladies to notice him, but it was surely his game that got him beyond introductions.

    Get some sweet hobbies, improve on your insecurities, step up your confidence game, and learn how to pass their shit tests. And you'll be far better off than the super hot dude who doesn't do any of these.

    Life's not fair, some people have it luckier than others. You got to work with what you got. Whinging about how some people are unfairly hotter is just a waste of your incredible brain. Take TRP, use it.

    [–]Omnibrad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    unless I lowered my standards a bit, total strangers fucking me raw within 10 minutes is not a common thing for me.

    Oh yeah? And what standards does your bestie set for useless whores?

    [–]Future_Alpha[🍰] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    Well fuck. Sucks to be me I guess. Finishing up my 7 years of undergrad. Had one gf in first year because everyone was still establishing social circles and I got in on that at the right time. Dumped her because we were 17 and she was afraid to put out and get pregnant (like her mom did at the same age). Was Incel for 2 years before I discovered pua. Even when I discovered pua (and a year later trp), still couldn't get laid from cold approach until I got lucky and got laid from online game (though to be fair I went out on dates with 7-8s). At my new uni, I was so focused on school I turned down one girl (she was horny af, and she gave me her number and tried to fuck me) because I didn't want a relationship (though I regret it now as if be getting easy pussy and would be able to focus on other things) and escalated too fast with another one that we got to make outs but then she LJBF. I was Incel for a year and got laid twice this year with two different girls.

    I must be ugly, bc most girls blow me off in cold approach (though I've improved style and everything) and am losing hair, though I am 6'2 and think I have an ugly face and wear glasses.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    think I have an ugly face and wear glasses.

    You are 6'2" and have all the advantages. An ugly face is hardly a barrier. The fact that YOU THINK your face is ugly is the problem. If you know you are attractive, even if you are not, you can still drag a girl into that frame. If you "know" you are unattractive then you will surely drag any woman you meet into that frame.

    [–]Future_Alpha[🍰] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    An ugly face is hardly a barrier.

    I don't think that's true. Girls judge men on looks on approach (and are more likely to talk to good looking guys). Being balding and having an ugly face sets me back significantly compared to my peers (I was rated a 4 WITHOUT glasses in terms of facial aesthetics), even if I dress well. Think about It, if you are ugly and balding it means one will have to work harder to overcome this (sometimes it is impossible to.overcome).

    I dunno how I look in person, but I have a baby face in photos and shaving my head is ugly as fuck.

    There's not much I can do about face, but I am trying to gain muscle. And hair since it's so prominent plays a role.

    [–]mleko69 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    According to this logic it's almost impossible for an average guy to settle and have a family, so what's the point in living a worthless life?

    [–]RedwallAllratuRatbar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    save money by not marrying to have sex 10/10 sex robot

    [–]GolfinEagle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Why does it have to be worthless? If you wife someone up, she’ll cheat eventually, and you’ll probably never know. I had a hard time accepting that, but with some time I began to put it in perspective. I stopped seeing it how I wanted to see it and saw it for what it was, and I don’t WANT that, so I will never raise a family. And now I’m fine with it. There’s more to life than putting all your faith into a woman and being inevitably ruined for it one way or another. It took me two kicks in the dick to realize I have no interest in the clusterfuck that is the third if children are involved.

    [–]roguealpha96 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    If you are married and not looking to cheat then I feel this should not be bothering you. If you have your girl locked down, who cares how many chicks your buddy gets with? Yes, it is not fair that it so so easy for him as compared to you. But you should be out of the game, it shouldn't phase you.

    [–]AshyBoneVR4 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    There are a couple of things in your post that confuse the fucking hell out of me.

    First, you said your married, then later in the post you said, "just how little effort is required from attractive men to get what all of us so desperately want. Sex." Ignoring the general consensus of how most guys here view marriage, you make yourself seem like you are desperate for sex. Sounds like you got jealous of your friend.

    Second, did you take the time to think about how much confidence your friend projected? Yeah, he might have the face and the body, but his body language spoke volumes. You by comparison just seemed distant. Her comment to you was a way to include you into any further conversations as no to be a total bitch. When you friend took over, she stopped caring all together.

    Third, you're in a bar/club, your friend found a whore, what a shocker.

    Last, why did it bother you so much that your friend left you? You yourself said you were there for pool. Not there to spend time with your friend. You want to play pool, play pool. You don't need someone else to have a good time to play pool. Just play pool till he gets back.

    You thinking some people are just naturally going to have it better then others will only serve as an excuse for you to not to try to improve yourself. You got married, so I'm guessing that means you value the companionship of the person you married over getting random sex with random people. Enjoy what you have, have fun when you go out, and fuck everything else.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 5 points6 points  (11 children)

    This should be removed, no lesson involved and is nothing more than a black pill rant at how OP is jealous of the treatment his friend Chad receives. Pretending that his "pool game" is why he's there. What a joke.

    OP should be considering what actions to take to continue raising his SMV so that when he goes out with Chad, both are valid fuckable options to women.

    [–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    Bro, you need to figure out how to compete against a prime Mike Tyson in the boxing ring. Just start training, every day, and go in there and beat the shit out of him. Raw talent doesn't even matter.

    [–]darkmoon09 7 points8 points  (5 children)

    It should stay because it vividly illustrates the alpha/beta dynamic and the 80/20 rule. Guys don't like to see these things or hear these stories its a punch in the fucking gut, almost makes you feel like utter genetic garbage, but guys need to see/hear this because they need to know exactly where things stand in real life.

    OP should be considering what actions to take to continue raising his SMV so that when he goes out with Chad, both are valid fuckable options to women.

    The biggest takeaway you should have gotten from this story is that all raising one's SMV is good and all, you still won't ever be in Chad's level. Ever. Again not saying you shouldn't strive to improve, but you need to be realistic about your options and the hand you were dealt with. Chad will always outshine you, so you'll never 'valid fuckable', at least not on his level where women drop their panties just at the sight of him.

    [–]electricspresident 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I tried but it's not easy to make friends with a Chad. Funny thing is I am your typical skinny normal dude. I can have interesting conversations for days but I'm not sure why I seem to have this general negative effect even though I'm a positive person.

    [–]1StinkyDiaper[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I'm a fucking nasty singer and drummer, and I blew him away with my talent when we first met. He basically worshiped my musical skills. He's having me record drums for many of his songs, soon.

    [–]MikeAlphaGolf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Good story. It flows down the chain too. There’s been times when my mates have said the same about me, picking up a hot young girl at the pub or something. (I’m 34). How the fuck does he do it. I’m no chad, but probably a solid 8.

    I suppose all you can do is climb the SMV ladder as best you can and enjoy the fruits that it brings.

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