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ScienceThe SERIOUS Importance of Vitamin D (trust me, read details within) (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by jeddzus

About two years ago my mom convinced me to get my blood tested. All was well except for one glaring deficiency: Vitamin D. I was at like zero, shit was non-existent. So my mom bought me a bottle of supplements and tried to get me to take them every morning (this was back when I still lived with her and was stubborn about shit everything) and I didn't really take it all too consistently. I didn't really notice a difference, didn't really give a shit and I dropped it. Recently I just started thinking about how fucking exhausted I am ALL THE TIME. Like all the fucking time, for serious. I would nod off at my desk for hours (thank god I have my own office) and still not have more energy. I was all fucked up. Thought it was just this way for good. I decided to google the benefits of vitamin D. What I came across led to a facepalm to end all facepalms. The following are REAL scientific benefits of ensuring you have the correct fucking amount of vitamin D:

  • HIGHER FUCKING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS & LOWER ESTROGEN LEVELS
  • PROMOTES DAYTIME WAKEFULNESS & BETTER NIGHT TIME SLEEP QUALITY
  • BOOSTS YOUR FUCKING IMMUNE SYSTEM
  • PROMOTES MUSCLE STRENGTH & INTEGRITY
  • HELPS WITH ERECTILE FUNCTION
  • MAINTAINS BONE HEALTH
  • PROTECTS AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S

    So, in conclusion, a lot of us computer reddit dwellers tend to not get one important thing, especially when our beta blue asses are first swallowing TRP: WE DON'T GET ENOUGH FUCKING SUNLIGHT. Because of this, we can be groggy all fucking day, have LESS FREE TESTOSTERONE, not be getting the optimal muscle quality when hitting the gym. Yo, in the beginning especially, us beta fucks need all the help we can get. The testosterone factor alone should be enough to make sure you get enough. I've been taking a supplement for a few weeks now, and I shit you not, I have more energy and better mood and better sleep quality than I've had in years. 100% better fucking quality of life. Because my dumb fucking ass was too stubborn to try and rectify my dangerously low deficient shit problems because my mom was trying to help me and I was a big tough know better beta fuck. And it's the only adjustment I've made in my life recently. Don't take it from me, there are plenty of sources on the internet to back my shit up. And it's NOT JUST VITAMIN D!! Get a blood test, make sure you aren't deficient in shit anything. Taking vitamins and minerals just "because they're good for me RIGHT!?" is dumb as hell. Find out for sure. Fix your shit. Fix yourself. Grow and improve, YA DUMBASS. Sources:

  • https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sleep-newzzz/201301/vitamin-d-deficiency-and-daytime-sleepiness

  • https://prostate.net/articles/vitamin-d-requirements-for-men-over-40

    Edit: DON'T JUST START THROWING BACK VITAMIN D CARTE BLANCHE! I'm not a doctor. I'm saying get your bloodwork done and consult with your doctor before taking large amounts of vitamins, there is a legit problem called vitamin overdose - it's a real thing. You can mess up your kidneys, liver, heart, etc. if you're just taking a shitload without proper monitoring. Consult with your doctor first! Be healthy and smart!


[–]frostdrachen 85 points86 points  (19 children)

Up north this is a common deficiency due to an extreme lack of sunlight during the winter. So unless you're getting plenty of direct sunlight (even just thin glass blocks UV light which is needed for the synthesis) you're going to need supplements. We have them all over the place and most of our milk has added vitamin D.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 28 points29 points  (16 children)

When you are far enough from the equator it's impossible to get enough vitD from sunlight in the winter because the angle of the sun is too low. It's likely that our ancestors used to compensate this partly with high fish intake.

I supplement 5000iu in winter and switch to every other day in spring/fall and once or twice a week in the summer.

Edit: anyone supplementing high amounts of vitD should also take vitK out of precaution. Magnesium is probably also a good idea.

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    [–]Immaculate5321 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Vitamin D can boost cognition, bone health and if you are deficient can increase testosterone as a side effect of supplementation. If you have too much vitamin D, calcium can begin to build up in your blood and cause many side effects including kidney stones. It is very difficult to get vitamin d to dangerous levels without supplementation. Vitamin K Assists in the transport of calcium and promotes bone health. This also means a decreased risk of calcium buildup in arteries. Great synergy. Vitamin K also has a role in blood clotting so don’t supplement without talking to a doctor if you are on blood thinners.

    [–]Cynthaen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Make sure you get K2.

    It has a lot higher affinity to bind to osteocalcin (the enzyme that transfers calcium to the bones, which needs K2 and D3 to activate).

    [–]PaulAJK 1 point2 points  (9 children)

    I thought 1000iu was enough?

    [–]Azhet 10 points11 points  (8 children)

    Newer studies show that our previous assumptions were off, around 8000 is now recommended. I take 10,000 IU daily and have definitely noticed a huge improvement in my life. $10 for 3 months worth, only wish I’d started sooner!

    [–]Extremely_Photogenic 3 points4 points  (4 children)

    8000 is now recommended. I take 10,000 IU daily

    That's a lot.... I have heard that 1000 is too low but 8,000?? I thought the new recommendation was like 2k from a previous of 400.

    Do you have sources for this?

    [–]Azhet 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    Link to the study

    we call public health authorities to consider designating as the RDA at least three-fourths of the levels proposed by the Endocrine Society Expert Committee as safe upper tolerable daily intake doses. This could lead to a recommendation of 1000 IU for children <1 year on enriched formula and 1500 IU for breastfed children older than 6 months, 3000 IU for children >1 year of age, and around 8000 IU for young adults and thereafter. Actions are urgently needed to protect the global population from vitamin D deficiency.

    It seems like a lot but I feel a lot better taking it. I ran out for a week because I couldn't afford more and I felt more tired and less healthy overall. It helps with seasonal affective disorder significantly. I think the reason there is a large trend of depression (evidenced by it's popularity in memes) is we are low on Vitamin D because we stay inside so much.

    [–]Extremely_Photogenic 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    I completely agree with everything you said, except I am still shocked to see 8000 IU recommended. I typically dose 2-4k a day in the winter...

    [–]Azhet 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    You actually make a lot more naturally

    If you're fair skinned, experts say going outside for 10 minutes in the midday sun—in shorts and a tank top with no sunscreen—will give you enough radiation to produce about 10,000 international units of the vitamin. Dark-skinned individuals and the elderly also produce less vitamin D, and many folks don't get enough of the nutrient from dietary sources like fatty fish and fortified milk.

    Some people need less, some people need more. I have a particularly low deficiency according to my endocrinologist, so 10k IU works for me :)

    [–]StrikePrice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I also take 10k IU per day. Have for years. My GP told me one time “you’re my only patient with normal Vitamin D levels.”

    [–]George_H_W_Kush 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, a lot of people up here just assume vitamin d deficiency is “feeling crappy because it’s thewinter”

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                                                                      [–]BigMawsmidget 99 points100 points  (38 children)

                                                                      Honestly think vitamin deficiency across the board is understated. I've heard people use the saying "multivitamins are expensive urine", but my own opinion disregard those people if you're deficient in anything a high quality multivitamin will help, but it's only a tool. Still have to get most of it from foods.

                                                                      [–]markdumte 42 points43 points  (19 children)

                                                                      If you eat enough vegetables, and you should, you are getting more than you need of most vitamins and minerals. The vitamins in vegetables are more bioavailable than from artificial sources. You also get a lot of fiber and other non essential micro nutrients, that help a lot that you don't get with multivitamin supplements.

                                                                      Instead of taking a multivitamin, it is much better if you increase the amount of vegetables you take, for example by taking a daily vegetable/fruit shake.

                                                                      The exception is vitamin D as it is not present in any vegetable or fruit. You can find it only in some mushrooms and in cod liver. In general, the body relies on the skin production when the sun hits. But because we don't get that much sun in our lifestyles anymore, it makes sense to add vitamin D supplement.

                                                                      But vitamin D is the exception. If you have vitamin deficiency it is much better to increase your vegetable and fruit intake.

                                                                      [–]THEnimble_mongoose 10 points11 points  (15 children)

                                                                      Don't we only need something like 20 minutes a day in the sunlight to get the vitamin D we need?

                                                                      [–]Run_Che 29 points30 points  (4 children)

                                                                      20 minutes on full/naked body and not just face/hands? What time in the day/year since sun isn't always the same intensity? What about the days when it's cloudy or when you don't leave house during the day. What about living in far north/south countries where sunlight isn't as strong by default..

                                                                      Chances are, you need it suplemented.

                                                                      [–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 22 points23 points  (3 children)

                                                                      That is when you go with the current insanely low recommended daily intake. That number is based on preventing rickets, not achieving optimal health. There is a lot of shit that goes bad before you develop rickets.

                                                                      This is a common problem with these recommendations. They are based on preventing disease instead of optimizing health and performance.

                                                                      If you want to get a better idea of whether supplementation is beneficial and at what dosage go to examine.com for more in-depth info.

                                                                      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                                                                      I’m not sure about that. Both of us run in the sun, lay out every weekend in the summer and are generally outside a lot. Our levels were still low.

                                                                      [–]markdumte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                      That is usually the minimum recommended that prevents your body from malfunction, but usually the optimum is much higher. Just go and get a blood analysis to check. They are usually included in most insurances, so you don't go around guessing.

                                                                      Also, sun makes the skin age quicker and increases the chances of cancer. I wear sunscreen daily, even in winter. So moderate amounts of sun with vitamin d supplements is a much better overall approach IMO.

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                                                                        [–]ValuePrestige 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                                                                        What is a good multivitamin?

                                                                        [–]BigMawsmidget 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                                                                        Right now I'm taking something called Thorne Research I recommend that one, but it's expensive for a month supply. That's really the big catch around 62 dollars on Amazon it's two bottles an A.M and P.M, but for the dosage combined that's what sold me.

                                                                        Most multivitamin have low vitamin D for example or even vitamin c this one has 2500 iu for vit D and think 350 for vit C.

                                                                        As I stated used as a tool this is awesome if a bit expensive.

                                                                        [–]ATrashMan 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                                                                        counter point tried taking the thorne research 1 and it made me feel like shit so i stopped.

                                                                        [–]BigMawsmidget 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                                                        Are you eating before taking it cause so far I have no side effects to speak of.

                                                                        [–]ATrashMan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                                        yes. it gave me a brain fog like feeling where it was hard to think clearly. after i removed that supplement all issues stopped.

                                                                        [–]BigMawsmidget 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        I haven't had that issue at all maybe it's just a particular ingredient they used. Although always open to suggestions for better one I don't trust any one company, but if you give a suggestion don't like it be something like One a day.

                                                                        [–]revente 6 points7 points  (10 children)

                                                                        Multivitamins might be but a good grade of medical d3 is very reccomended. Obviously its still best to get proper levels via sunlight exposure.

                                                                        [–]Rabbit-Punch 15 points16 points  (9 children)

                                                                        It takes like 3 hours in the sun to get enough vitamin D, not the 15 min lie

                                                                        [–]FinallyRed 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                                                        You can't make a blanket statement like that. It will depend on where you live, the time of year, your skin pigmentation, and how much of your body is exposed. Plenty of people do live north enough that there is very little radiation and their bodies will be mostly covered up for most of the year, so the conclusion is pretty much the same for most people.

                                                                        [–]adam_varg 7 points8 points  (7 children)

                                                                        in europe it would take 8-12hours per day being topless outside year round for most men..

                                                                        cali, flo.. not being basement dweller is enough on other hand

                                                                        depends on how far from equator you live

                                                                        [–]Rabbit-Punch 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                                                                        myself and many other Californians that spend over an hour in the sun a day disagree

                                                                        [–]adam_varg 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                                                        Sure, its individual.

                                                                        My point was those 15min-2h time frames are for most whities living at such locations. Nigerian living behind polar circle in Finland can be outside naked 24/7/365 and still deficient.

                                                                        [–]RonieGarret 41 points42 points  (10 children)

                                                                        I resigned from pills and now I'm taking D in liquid form: dissolved in oil. If you have to stay with pills, take them with some fat (eg. yolk).

                                                                        I never supplement D3 alone, always with K2.

                                                                        Good mood guaranteed.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                                                                        Gotta look into K2 supplementing, thanks for the heads up

                                                                        [–]BigMawsmidget 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                                                        Yeah they help each other think there is another vitamin that works like that.

                                                                        [–]Goodwin512 30 points31 points  (4 children)

                                                                        I had my blood tested fir vitamin D deficiencies (didnt think about it since i walk around outside for college fairly often and i have a summer job that is outdoors. Now im on a 50k mg pill once a week for vitamin D... oops I had same issue as you where I was always dead ass exhausted and couldnt help no matter the amt of sleep.

                                                                        [–]redd_reality 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                                                                        Did the vit D supplement help you?

                                                                        [–]Goodwin512 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                                                                        Odd story, but the first 4 weeks i was hyper as shit, all the energy in the world, but not sleeping much hit me way harder so i needed 2/3 extra hrs. Energy wise i really was unstoppable tho!

                                                                        And then another 3 weeks later and im startig to lose the energy again? Idk if my bodys adjusting to new amts and wants me tired as shit but its not the same.

                                                                        Im planning on going back in to see if im getting too much vitamin D and have toxicity in my blood... cant find a middle ground (-.-)/

                                                                        [–]redd_reality 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                                                        At least you know your energy is a direct function of your vit D intake. Guess regular blood tests are a must.

                                                                        [–]Goodwin512 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        It was just really weird, i thought i was going through a depression and then realized i had no reason in the world to be depressed, so i started looking to clinical reasons. My thoughts were possibly thyroid or vit D or even low Testosterone

                                                                        [–]ghosts_of_me 43 points44 points  (30 children)

                                                                        A couple of months ago I got a new job that puts me outdoors doing physical work for 8 hours a day. Since only recently my jizz loads have been enormous compared to the past. I think I may have found the correlation. Nice!

                                                                        [–]assholeofthesky 27 points28 points  (11 children)

                                                                        I think it's a massive shame that a lot of work is performed indoors. i felt way way better working days outside as apposed to working indoors at night, but ya know shit happens and life happens

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 10 points11 points  (10 children)

                                                                        If I could do my job at an outdoors desk standing up, my quality of life would increase and hundred-fold.

                                                                        [–]assholeofthesky 5 points6 points  (9 children)

                                                                        waterproof laptops? it'll be interesting to see ;)

                                                                        speaking from experience, i was beyond fucked up when i worked night shift. transferred to days and immediately felt better

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                                                                        I started a new job years ago that bumped my pay up from $60k to $80k but they wanted me to work 10pm-6am shifts 6 days a week. I dropped that shit like a rock. Goodbye social life. Goodbye sanity. There's a reason they offer that much.

                                                                        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                        This is probably why during the summer time (I live in Canada where it's winter most of the year) I feel more horny and muscles usually look more vascular and on peak than during the winter (tan is probably a big factor to tho)

                                                                        [–]FinallyRed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                        To be fair they were eating loads of animal products from beasts who were getting sun and eating right unlike modern factory farmed trash meat.

                                                                        [–]WolfofAnarchy 6 points7 points  (9 children)

                                                                        May i ask what job that is? I'm looking for some 'manly' jobs myself, working outdoors, being in the sun, lifting stuff, etc. I can't help but think my sitting is slowly killing me.

                                                                        [–]ghosts_of_me 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                                                                        Landscaping labourer. No skills required to start. Highly recommend.

                                                                        [–]WolfofAnarchy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                                                        Thanks. Can you - in a few sentences, I don't want to bother you - walk me through your most frequent tasks? I have a hard time imagining what exactly you do!

                                                                        [–]ghosts_of_me 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                                                        If we are building a new landscape then it is like minor construction, moving earth, placing boulders, concreting, tiling, installing irrigation systems, building walls or decks, planting trees, plants, etc.

                                                                        If we are maintaining landscaped property then there is a lot of weeding, digging, hedge trimming, ground clearing, green waste removal, and so on.

                                                                        [–]lilbro1984 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                                                                        Look up Deskbound, has some really good tips if you are stuck on a desk. And oh yeah sitting is killing you!

                                                                        [–]writewhereileftoff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Ok that's it I'm getting on the D train!

                                                                        [–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                                        Could be also due to the physical activity itself.

                                                                        [–]ghosts_of_me 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Im sure that's also contributing greatly.

                                                                        [–]EmberTraveler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Before I had a car, I walked everywhere. The benefits of walking are great but add in sunlight?

                                                                        Awesome duo there

                                                                        [–]ag101 18 points19 points  (2 children)

                                                                        Maybe it's a placebo effect, but I can definitely tell the difference after a few days when I haven't supplemented Vitamin D.

                                                                        I feel more lethargic, have less energy and overall get in more of a "depressed" mood when I have not had my 3000iu of Vit D for a few days.

                                                                        [–]greatslyfer 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                                                                        Maybe it's a placebo effect

                                                                        Isn't that though kinda redundant though to question whether it's a placebo or not?

                                                                        Like I get what you mean, how do you truly know if it's a placebo effect or not... you don't.

                                                                        [–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 14 points15 points  (4 children)

                                                                        Started taking Vitamin D in the 35,000 IU tablets once a week for the last 3 months and HOLY FUCKING SHIT, major improvement in sleep quality, restfulness, erectile function, appetite, healthy looking skin, overall happiness and positive attitude. Those are just the ones i'm aware of.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                                                                        It's insane dude. Like I said, I was blown away by the quality of life increase. I didn't want to get THAT into it and act like it's some miracle cure all snake oil shit but yeah.. I hope that this post nudged some people to get bloodwork done and possibly supplement with VitD and feel just as good as we do brotha.

                                                                        [–]30fretibanezguy 14 points15 points  (4 children)

                                                                        Few weeks ago self prescribed zinc, then iron, then vitamin D (to see cumulative effects of each).

                                                                        The zinc got my sex drive and drive to deliver intensity in the gym more. The iron massively improved my mood and ability to keep away from watching YouTube to pass the time. And the vitamin D seemed to make me feel genuinely better in general (I know, vague, but its true, physically and mentally).

                                                                        I found those three supplements from my own research on what I should be taking and why. I reccomend everyone goes on their own journey to see what vitamins and minerals they see change from.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                                                                        Weird wild stuff. I wonder how much of that could possibly be placebo? Not saying your lying, but sometimes it's hard to tell, I was unsure if my improvements were placebo or not for a while. Until I tried starting then stopping a few times and noticed an immediate difference. I'll look into the zinc and iron too, I'm probably deficient because I eat garbage food and in insufficient amounts too. I really need to improve my diet to start showing my gym gains more.

                                                                        [–]30fretibanezguy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                                                        Hey you could well be right. I based my findings based on what I read the vitamins were supposed to do and compared it to myself so I definitely lack proper objectivity whether its true or not.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                                                        Hey whatever works for you man, all that matters is you're feeling better, less sedentary, and more intense at the gym. Keep on

                                                                        [–]cyanidez 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Thanks for sharing man. The only person who is going to take care of you, is YOU.

                                                                        [–]ReggieCarl 12 points13 points  (16 children)

                                                                        Vitamin D is essentially a anabolic hormone. I was deficient in it as well. Been taking supplements for it for over half a year. Difference is day and night. Also gained two inches in height probably because of my deficiency getting corrected.

                                                                        [–]soider8 2 points3 points  (15 children)

                                                                        If you don’t mind me asking, how much were you supplementing with? I’m 22 and I believe I could have suffered from a Vit D deficiency for most of my life. Anyway I will be supplementing soon so I hope it makes a difference, I’m from the UK and from what I can see on Amazon and other reviews Ultra Vitabiotics Vitamin D 1000UI daily seems to be good. The company also has a 2000UI version.

                                                                        I will begin with 1000UI and see if there’s a difference.

                                                                        [–]revente 3 points4 points  (14 children)

                                                                        1000 is really low. 3-5k is proper way to go when you are deficient.

                                                                        [–]soider8 1 point2 points  (13 children)

                                                                        How will I know this is not dangerous? I’m not supplementing anything else like K2

                                                                        [–]ReggieCarl 1 point2 points  (12 children)

                                                                        If you don’t mind me asking, how much were you supplementing with? I’m 22 and I believe I could have suffered from a Vit D deficiency for most of my life. Anyway I will be supplementing soon so I hope it makes a difference, I’m from the UK and from what I can see on Amazon and other reviews Ultra Vitabiotics Vitamin D 1000UI daily seems to be good. The company also has a 2000IU version.

                                                                        I am 22 as well. I took two Vitamin D3 3000 IU, so 6000 IU. I bought and used these from Amazon.co.uk

                                                                        How will I know this is not dangerous?

                                                                        Up to 10,000 IU should be regarded as very safe unless you have some conditions that predispose you to high blood calcium, such as hyperparathyroidism or acidosis.

                                                                        If you're a white person in t-shirt and shorts in the summer sun you can produce up to 10,000 IU within 15-20 minutes easily. Toxicity doesn't occur until at least 40,000 IU according to most recent studies.

                                                                        [–]soider8 2 points3 points  (11 children)

                                                                        Hmm that’s interesting, thanks for the reply mate. I believe it may be good for me to get some tests done beforehand and possibly consult my GP as well as doing more research on the whole topic of Vit D.

                                                                        Thing is I’ve always had sleep problems such as sleep talking, sleep terrors occasionally and day time tiredness used to be bad for me. Anything wrong with just taking 1-2kUI for the time being to see it there’s any difference?

                                                                        [–]ReggieCarl 1 point2 points  (10 children)

                                                                        Do that. It's always a good idea to consult with your doctor about your recent blood work.

                                                                        Those symptoms you stated can be caused by a lot of things obviously. It's difficult for me to say unless I knew all your environmental factors like time spent outside and diet etc. So anything I'd tell you would probably be an inaccurate estimation. So I rather not.

                                                                        So if you really wanna be on the safe side, just take 500 IU by cutting your tablet in half and work your way up every week. Listen to how your body responds and adapt your dose accordingly.

                                                                        [–]soider8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Right thanks for the reply!

                                                                        [–]soider8 1 point2 points  (8 children)

                                                                        One last question, do you supplement with vitamin k2 also?

                                                                        [–]ReggieCarl 4 points5 points  (7 children)

                                                                        Yep. Vitamin K2 mk7 form. Vitamin D & Vitamin K2 synergize very well together. For every 5,000 - 10,000 UI of D3 I recommend 100-200 mcg of K2 mk7.

                                                                        I started with this half a year ago, and I feel my bones are significantly denser. I never get pain in my knees or anything anymore. I had really frail bones just 6 months ago (I was deficient in Vitamin D and other things)

                                                                        [–]NotMeUsee 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                                                                        I had the same diagnosis. Started taking vitamin D and am thinking more clearly and have way more energy.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Yeah man, the change was large enough to motivate me to make this post lol

                                                                        [–]Deezney 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                        You literally made me get up and get some Vitamin D today lol

                                                                        [–]I_LIKE_THINGS_OFTEN 9 points10 points  (3 children)

                                                                        I’ve got several concussion in the past and have been dealing with chronicle depression since the last 8-10 years. I also live up north in Canada so sun light is near non-existant during weekday at the office while in the winter.

                                                                        I second OP, I started taking vitamins D and other supplement and my mood and mind really improved. This winter has been the easiest to go through, with only a week or two of down. 10/10 would recommend.

                                                                        [–]DouglasB2310 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Probably the most useful post I've ever seen today.

                                                                        Thanks OP. 👍

                                                                        [–]AircraftWelder 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Moved to the interior of Alaska last summer, and started taking vitamin D as the days got shorter. This is the first winter in memory that I haven’t been lethargic/depressed with the lack of sunlight, going to and getting off work in the dark, etc. and it’s by far the least sunlight I’ve received. Vitamin D gets a thumbs up from me.

                                                                        [–]NACHTK1113R 6 points7 points  (8 children)

                                                                        Well some people are sensitive to dht so we can't even build muscle without the risk of hair loss. I can't even eat dark chocolate or drink pomegranite juice because it causes shedding.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

                                                                        Ahh sorry to hear that man. What's the treatment for that?

                                                                        [–]NACHTK1113R 3 points4 points  (6 children)

                                                                        I'm not sure, but I know I would need something such as finasteride(to combat it), but it causes erectile dysfunction(so it isn't worth it, what would be the point in having big muscles, and a limp dick? I will need to find another alternative). High testosterone is essential when building muscle, but it always gets converted to dht, and that's what causes the hair loss. Exercises which significantly increase T levels such as squats and pull ups etc cause hair loss in certain people who are sensitive to dht, so they have to avoid them and just mostly stick to cardio if they do do any exercise at all.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

                                                                        Well I guess if you're gonna bulk up then just go at it head first and bulk up. A well built bald guy can 100% still be sexy. Look at The Rock, or Jason Statham, or Vin Diesel or Andre Agassi.

                                                                        [–]fresh--tendril 12 points13 points  (5 children)

                                                                        Isn't it really odd that we get vitamin D from the sun - of all places..

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                                                                        I agree - it really is lol. Our bodies synthesize it from cholesterol when exposed to sunlight. Our bodies are really beautiful insane things man.

                                                                        [–]fresh--tendril 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                                                                        What makes it weirder, in a sense, is we get everything from the sun. But as you said, that our bodies can be the things that extract Vit D directly from the sun.. It doesn't have to go through all manner of geological processes.. Going to catch a lot of rays this Summer - and get down with the corporeal alchemy

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Yup, light and energy are the genesis of all life

                                                                        [–]rorrr 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                                                                        We get vitamin D from the sun and from the foods (and now from the pills as well). The problem with getting it from the sun, you increase your chances of skin cancer. You need to combine all 3 sources. The best way, according to some recent articles I've read, is vitamin D fortified foods: salmon, tuna, dairy, egg yolks (also some types of orange juice, but that shit is loaded with sugar). Supplements are a lot less effective for some reason.

                                                                        [–]sadshark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        The problem with getting it from alimentation is that you need to eat a shit ton of UNPROCESSED foods like fish and still the amount you would get would not be sufficient.

                                                                        We need sunlight and when we dont get it, we need high doses in other suplements.

                                                                        [–]aga080 4 points5 points  (7 children)

                                                                        This is correct, an adult male should be taking 5000-10000IU of Vitamin D per day. the "daily" amount written on bottles is all wrong, the correct amount is 10 times higher

                                                                        [–]Duzand 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                                                                        Love it man.

                                                                        HIGHER FUCKING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS & LOWER ESTROGEN FUCKS

                                                                        PROMOTES DAYTIME FUCKING WAKEFULNESS & BETTER NIGHT TIME SLEEP QUALITY

                                                                        BOOSTS YOUR FUCKING IMMUNE SYSTEM

                                                                        PROMOTES MOTHERFUCKING MUSCLE STRENGTH & INTEGRITY

                                                                        HELPS YOUR FUCKING DICK

                                                                        MAINTAINS THAT FUCKING BONE HEALTH

                                                                        PROTECTS AGAINST FUCKING ALZHEIMER'S

                                                                        WE DON'T GET ENOUGH FUCKING SUNLIGHT

                                                                        I'm motivated as shit right now.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Lol, you know I loves me some capitalization overuse!

                                                                        [–]1Ill_Will7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                                                        before i read this, i thought by vitamin D, you meant the importance of giving HER the vitamin D.

                                                                        [–]OminousOmnipotence 5 points6 points  (7 children)

                                                                        I would add DHEA and Zinc every night before bed.

                                                                        Anywhere from 25mg to 100mg of DHEA moderate if you start getting too pissy as it will dramatically increase your testosterone levels. Also, take at bed so you sleep through the initial pissy attitude too.

                                                                        Make sure you pair with Zinc as DHEA can be converted to Estrogen. The Zinc ensures it becomes testosterone.

                                                                        [–]BornShook 2 points3 points  (6 children)

                                                                        Good shit man.

                                                                        Add ashwaganda and B12 in there as well for the fuck of it. Thats what I take everyday. D3, zinc, DHEA (most days), ashwaganda and b12.

                                                                        [–]OminousOmnipotence 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                                                                        Well. If you want my full

                                                                        50mg DHEA Tribulus 100mg Zinc 15000 Units of D (I live north) Arginine 1500mg Fenugreek Multi Vitamin

                                                                        I'm looking up Ashwaganda now.

                                                                        [–]BornShook 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                                                        Decent man. What id fenugreek for? Ive heard of that one but never considered it.

                                                                        Ashwaganda is definitly worth trying. There was a study that showed that men who used it everyday for 3 months had a 33% boost in testosterone levels.

                                                                        [–]OminousOmnipotence 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                                        Fenugreek and Tribulus both improve athletic performace and testosterone levels.

                                                                        I started taking as a competitive athlete and have just maintained. I just learned Magnesium also frees up loose testosterone increasing levels by 25% so I am add that to my regiment.

                                                                        As I continue being an old guy I can attest I definitely feel younger.

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                                                                        [–]pastarotolo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                                                                        No, vitamin D is fat soluble which means it can cross cell membranes unfacilitated and be stored in cells.

                                                                        Hell, our bodies are so good at soaking it up that taking too much can be toxic- that doesn’t happen quite so easily with water soluble vitamins, like vitamin C, which you do piss out quite quickly

                                                                        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Half-Life of D3 is less than 2 months.

                                                                        [–]rakeshgupta1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Gotta fix myself, my left leg's nerve kills me even when I'm not doing any lifting.

                                                                        [–]TominatorXX 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                                        But don't take a multi -- buy a 5,000 IU capsules of D-3 and take one a day or 7 once a week.

                                                                        All you need to know: www.vitamindcouncil.org.

                                                                        [–]VictxrSenpai 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                                                        Can you live in the desert, get sun all day on your skin and still be deficient ?

                                                                        [–]adam_varg 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                                                        literally yes, but that would 1:1000***** exception

                                                                        depends how far from equator you live

                                                                        unless its cali, flo etc get your levels checked

                                                                        [–]FinallyRed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Definitely not unless you have a disorder. Lifeguarding in the summer has given me so much D it actually holds me over through the winter.

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                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                                        You might be better off, really not entirely sure. Like I said at the bottom, best way to know for sure is just get your bloodwork done at the doctor. You should anyway, it'll tell you how your cholesterol is, blood glucose, white blood cell count, fat levels, vitamin deficiencies, possibly indicate cancer. Definitely a thing worth checking out especially if you're noticing you're a little "off."

                                                                        [–]1v1crown 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                                                        Any idea what the best supplement to buy is?

                                                                        [–]DokDaka 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                                        I like pure therapeutics liquid d plus k from amazon

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                                                                        [–]0FO6 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                                                                        Really want to emphasize taking the correct amount. It is really easy to overdose on vitamin d . Taking too much has some serious toxic effects like but not limited to: kidney failure, bone loss, stomach pain, constipation, nausea, vomiting, poor appetite, elevated blood calcium levels, and elevated blood levels.

                                                                        There are some foods that have naturally occurring vitamin D. There are a few different kinds of fish that can provide vitamin D, like salmon, herring, sardines, cod, tuna, oysters, shrimp.

                                                                        The general consensus of what I could find says that around 2000 to 4000 iu a day should be good without getting too much into the toxicity range. I bring this up as my brother ended up borderline getting into the toxic range by taking over 10,000 iu of vitamin D for several months and started having a variety of issues from it.

                                                                        [–]TriggeringEveryone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                                        What the fuck happened at the top of the comments?

                                                                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Just today I took a little bit of sunlight in a lot of time due to bad weather and I already feel better.

                                                                        [–]Don_Himself 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                                                                        i grew 2 iron midgets as hands once i fixed my diet and started getting necessary vitamins

                                                                        [–]Alchemist_XP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Couldn’t have said it any fucking better myself

                                                                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                                                                        Regarding Vitamin D at such high levels, I believe you’re only supposed to take it for 3 months, just until your levels are good again. I don’t think you’re supposed to take high levels for very long. I could be wrong...

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                                                        My doctor recommended me 2 D3 pills (forget the exact dosage) per day. We'll see down the road, he didn't say to lower my dosage, but I plan on getting blood work done every year from here on out. Ever since I got sober, my health is numero uno.

                                                                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                                        As it should be. Congratulations on your sobriety.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Yeah, after years of drug usage, family wrecking, friend losing, crime committing, probation serving, beta-bucking, and rock bottom hitting, I finally learned my lesson. I finally learned why for the previous 25-26 years I felt the way I did, and acted the way I did, and turned to drugs in the first place. Best thing that ever happened to me, wouldn't change it for the world.

                                                                        [–]nofishtocatch 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                                                                        Do you not drink milk? The majority of us do, and that gives us about 50% DV of D per cup.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                                                                        I don't really drink milk, especially 2 cups on a daily basis. I consume about the amount that I put in my coffee when I drink it and that's about it lol. I'm more of a water/iced tea kindof guy. But hey, good on you man, how ever you get your nutrients.

                                                                        [–]nofishtocatch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                                                        I do take supplements of it occasionally, and going to more often now thanks to your post. Despite drinking milk I only drink a cup of it, being less mindful of the D benefits. It's just something I drank a lot of when I was younger.

                                                                        [–]donkey_democrat 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                                                        The DV is too low of a dose, that's what others in this sub are talking about. Some say take anywhere from 4-10k daily

                                                                        [–]DeadPisces 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        4mins of Vitamin D info goodness from aweso e researcher Dr. Rhonda Patrick: https://youtu.be/uc815fQn8iY... This is a great post as most folks are deficient and could benefit greatly from supplementing their diet with it.

                                                                        [–]bigbodybuilderr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                                        I take about 6k IU a day is that good?

                                                                        [–]Raknith 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                                        I have a vitamin D3 supplement that says to take 2 every day, should I take 2 or more? I have a multivitamin too, should I take them at the same time? Regular dose? For reference I get about <5 minutes of sun on an average day and usually eat unhealthy (i'm working on it)

                                                                        how much d3 and multivitamin should I take?

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        I'm not a doctor, sir. Depends on your weight, your current levels, etc. I'd highly recommend getting bloodwork done (for a multitude of reasons) and working with your doctor. I don't take multivitamins, I only take this one, and it was a dosage recommended by my doctor. I believe it was like 2000 twice a day. Don't quote me on that though, the bottle is in my bathroom at home I'm not sure lol. You'd be better off doing research online or consulting a doctor.

                                                                        [–]andyman30 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                                        I was having this issue as well, can vouch for the good ol' Vitamin D helping me have more energy. I thought it was a thyroid issue, but ended up with WAY more energy after taking 5000iu a day. My asshole doctor literally thought I was on steroids and that is why I had energy issues, (25yo and relatively muscular). Glad I started taking it!

                                                                        [–]Mildsoss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Don't skimp on the iodine bro.

                                                                        [–]greatslyfer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        As a person working in London, crikey!

                                                                        [–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Maybe this is why cabin fever is a thing...

                                                                        [–]IdoNtEvEnWaTz 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                                                        I started growing some chest hair after taking vitamin d lol.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                                        This made me LOL. Is this really true? How old were you when you started taking it?

                                                                        [–]MortalSisyphus 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                                                                        You say "fuck" a lot. Once or twice is okay but if you keep repeating it, it sounds lazy and ignorant. No offense, just a word of advice.

                                                                        [–]EL_TATICH 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                                                                        Insulting that much makes OP looks like a 14 yo trying to give advices here.

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                                        Thanks for the vocab coaching, but I don't want it, let me stay internet ignorant.

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                                                                        [–]rgmw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                                                        I understand, and I take, that D3 should be taking with K2 to maximize D3, and I believe to reduce or eliminate side effects that can be brought on by taking only vitamin D.

                                                                        [–]1redpilldick 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                                                                        What's the best way to hit all the bases with multivitamins (ADEK Zinc B6 B12 etc)? Many single pill supplements don't have the best bioavailability

                                                                        [–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                                                        Consult with your doctor. Don't just take blanket multivitamins for the hell of it. Get testing if you show symptoms of things being "off."

                                                                        [–]Seven_Veils 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                                                        Good thing I live in Florida

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