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Guy asks for advice because he thinks his pregnant girlfriend cheated on him and the baby isn't his. Gets told he's being a paranoid asshole. This is the update. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by cassandrita

First Link: https://archive.is/QWHIt

Update Link: https://archive.is/ZhZN1

TL;DR from first link. Guy posts for advice because his gf was acting strange, (buying lingerie, hiding her phone) before she ended up pregnant. Oh also the guy used a condom every time so its pretty unlikely that the child is his.

He wants to know if he should snoop and find out if his girlfriend cheated on him or if he's being irrational.

The top responses:

OK, you know the last 3 weeks where she's been hiding her phone and internet. That could have easily been her searching pregnancy symptoms or looking for a doctor and chatting with her best friend about missing her period.

It is suspicious but not 100% damning as there could be a simple explanation.

Snoop if you must, then talk to her.

Remember she was also buying lingerie she never wore with her bf but the guy is still being too paranoid.

Another response:

This is the most obvious answer on here honestly. But of course it wouldn't occur to a dude. Not to mention you can't meet someone, have sex, conceive and get a positive pregnancy test in THREE WEEKS! The earliest ones take at least 2 weeks after conception to even show.... she would have to be SUPER CONCEIVER WOMAN! Bahahaha.

And another response:

WAIT. How the hell could she have met someone, slept with them, conceived, waited the absolute minimum of 2 weeks it takes to get any result on a pregnancy test, all in the three weeks time you have noticed her "acting strange"?

I know your a dude so you probably haven't thought about this - it's very possible she was just online hiding things because she is googling pregnancy facts, messaging her girl friends on social media about it, etc before breaking the news to you.

Kicking her out without talking to her about it and getting the facts is bat-shit crazy dude. Don't do that. You will regret it majorly if it turns out you had a faulty condom at some point and you just kicked out your pregnant was-to-be wife who is carrying your child. Now THAT is a relationship breaker.

Now to the update

She was cheating on me. She was doing it since mid June with some guy I don't even fucking know, fucked him 3 times in June and then he ended it because he had a girlfriend. Then in late July he broke up with his girlfriend so then my girlfriend and this guy started seeing each other again more frequently, which explains her suspicious behavior in the last 3 weeks.

As for the pregnancy she confessed to him two weeks ago she's pregnant with his kid and how she plans to pass it off as mine. I'm so pissed and feel like a fucking fool right now. Right now she doesn't know I know about this so I'm just keeping up appearances.

Lesson: Never trust the hivemind.


[–]1RXRob 203 points204 points  (23 children)

If something feels wrong, then it is wrong. Always trust your gut.

[–][deleted] 90 points91 points  (3 children)

Pay attention to subtle cues. Being a junkie taught me that. You could tell when a dude would run off with your money. You had to be really attentive, and after you got beat it would seem obvious.

[–]r1chten 40 points41 points  (7 children)

Trust your instincts.

I avoided many awkward/violent situations with this sage advice.

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    [–]ShazzMichaels 18 points19 points  (5 children)

    I remember learning this as an 18 year old. Had car trouble in the middle of bumfuck nowhere in alabama. Some guy pulled over. Immediately, within seconds of him getting out of the car, my gut was screaming at me that their was something very wrong about this. I told him AAA was on the way and thanked him trying to get him to leave. He walks back towards his car and I whisper to my friend "fuck that was creepy. He's probably gonna get a gun." He then opens up his trunk and pulls out a double barrel shotgun. Goes up to his driver side window and just lays it in the seat and drives away. Shortly after that the tow truck came but the guy with the shotgun drove by us three more times. I'm positive that if the tow truck driver didn't show up something would have gone down

    [–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

    He was just patrolling the area to ensure you guys were safe.

    I have the opposite story from driving through the middle of nowhere in Canada. Ran out of gas, because my friend was driving and not paying attention to the gauge. It was after midnight, somewhere in the prairies. The nearest town was miles away. I was getting ready to walk to the town's gas station and couldn't decide whether it was safer for us to go together or to leave my friend in the car with all our stuff. I was deliberating this when an old farmer in a truck stopped and asked what the problem was. He told us to wait and drove off. He came back 20 minutes later with several gallons of gas in a can and just gave it to me, refusing to take any payment.

    [–]abetterarsonist 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    Love this story. There's just something about creepy Americana.

    [–]ShazzMichaels 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Lol besides that really fucking creepy guy there were about 4 other people that offered to help us which is nice. Don't think that would happen in many other places.

    [–]monkdick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Yea, please don't think all of us from Alabama drive around with shotguns being creeps. We are for the most part a genuinely helpful bunch.

    [–]1lurkingtacopiller 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    "If you feel a tingle in your nuts, chances are you're about to be kicked in the balls."

    [–]Manmore 425 points426 points  (139 children)

    she plans to pass it off as mine

    HOW can you do such a thing?

    [–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 166 points167 points  (5 children)

    1. Hide pregnancy from cuck
    2. Fuck his brains out ASAP
    3. Wait a bit
    4. Oops, dear. I'm pregnant and I wanna keep it. Pay up!
    5. If he finds out later it's not his, divorce-rape and get the perks of marriage without the responsibilities

    [–]I_is_the_best 30 points31 points  (2 children)

    Women have no problems with dualistic mating strategy. They don't even have to do it conciously - hormones take care of that.

    My relationship with a former GF could be summarised based on her cycle. Where during ovulation she was all over me and dying to see me and hated me during the rest of the cycle. Then she got pregnant and within 3 weeks into it she hated me again.

    She later met a beta type of guy. You know the kind of guy that would have given her vomiting reflexes two years earlier.

    Women can have a cake and eat it too.

    [–]McLarenX 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    "I want to settle down" for a woman basically means "I am admitting weakness and need a doormat to pay the bills". This is after getting used and abused by a litany of men. Fuck, it's so rare to find a decent woman these days. They all lie about their sexual past.

    I consider myself lucky to be dating a younger girl that hasn't had many sexual partners but who knows one day she could have a renaissance moment and go of the rails. It's a daily battle keeping these women in check it's either you become an asshole and endure lots of crying and fake fights to keep them in check or get used and abused.

    There's no middle ground, just guys that get used and guys that don't. It takes some people a ton of mental strength to say no.

    [–]tomdanksthethird 406 points407 points  (55 children)

    I have this crazy personal theory of mine that through thousands of years of evolution every women is hardwired to be able to cuckold a man without feeling any remorse.

    If she admits it, she and her bastard child might get killed, and fail to pass on her genes, so basically evolution programmed them to not feel any nagging guilt for cuckolding men.

    AF/BB is hardwired into every women.

    [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 242 points243 points  (29 children)

    I concur, or rather: I think they do feel remorse, but have a powerful ability to rationalize their behavior to such an extent that it overrides any doubts.

    "oooh I got pregnant by another guy.... but my SO always wanted a child, and it'll make him happy... yadda yadda yadda"

    This is the conscious act, but subconsciously she followed two powerful drives: conceiving children from the best guy available and carrying them to term.

    [–]through_a_ways 109 points110 points  (4 children)

    The best lie is the one you believe yourself

    [–]FeltzeR 59 points60 points  (1 child)

    Remember Jerry, it's not a lie if YOU believe it.

    [–]falafin 61 points62 points  (8 children)

    'it will be the best for the child'

    I bet that they use that one, for all the shitty things they might do they will always have the excuse that they did it for the sake of a child,

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      [–]wll89a 35 points36 points  (0 children)

      Actually laughed out loud at that one.

      Of course, when 10 years down the line she can't stand the sight of her goody-two-shoes anymore, she'll be happy to divorce him and put her (not their) child through that. But he was never the child's real father and there was no love in the marriage, so it's for the good of the child, right?

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      She didn't like that, for some reason...

      Not surprised, a lot of people can't take hard truths very well

      Usually you end up being called a sociopath for speaking those out

      [–]AEther_Flux 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I remember reading (years ago) how statistics showed that one in ten men were sociopaths. I'm totally fine with being called a sociopath if it means I know what is actually happening to the world around me.

      [–]Omahunek 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      'it will be the best for the child'

      Of course this is literally an expression of the evolutionary benefit of cuckolding. It is best for the child, at the provider's expense. That's the point of the strategy.

      [–]ColdEiric 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      You've officially ruined 'It's for a good cause'. Thank you so much!

      [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      Another man's spawn, another woman's uterus turd will die before I become its legal father or provide child support.

      [–]Redasshole 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      They feel remorse long enough to convince themselves they are good people. "If I feel remorse I'm a nice girl so it's all forgiven" - proceed on destroying a man's life because, you know, she is a nice girl so she can't do anything bad.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 23 points24 points  (3 children)

      She'll use her hamster to rationalize it as being best for the baby when all she really wants to do is cuck the beta bucks who's got the most bucks to beta for her.

      [–]throwawaymatthew 32 points33 points  (1 child)

      i had to fuck chad, his genes are the best for the child....

      [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Ironically that's what her millennia of evolution is telling her body.

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      How many bucks would a beta bucks buck if a beta bucks could buck beta?

      [–]1Yakatonker 11 points12 points  (5 children)

      Women are not men. Innate to women is a biological kill switch which developed over time due to severe economic instability in our species. Women needed it to integrate and survive when their tribe was obliterated and they were taken as the prizes of conquests, often men in biblical times were outright slaughtered to kill the religious and social based architecture attached to the those women, and or became slaves. Basically if their kill switch is activated things can go to hell fast. Women have a different set of innate motivators, they need not rationalize what they perceive as weak men because they have absolutely no use for them from their primal perspective/subconscious(well except for free resources/orbiters, etc.).

      Therefore the often spammed line men are just economically disposable holds true. Especially with men who're alpha, however such an innate state does not exist rather its the exertion of the utilitarian traits women find to be a useful of the man for the purposes of mitigating the risks of survival in their progeny at least in elder human systems.

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        [–]RobertCarraway 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        You need to get on-board with evolution bro. You are using some seriously outmoded mental models. Like pre-19th century mental models.

        there is no woman's instant evaluation of system likelyhood of success and then a kill switch for loyalty. those things don't go together.

        Yes, there is. It's called feelz. Do a little reading on evolutionary biology. Realize that most decisions are actually sub-rational. You are posting some seriously confused stuff.

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          [–]1Yakatonker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          What you say is true, people, human animals are first and foremost economical in their own survival. What many may perceive for loyalty may be nothing more then economic favoratism as a means to create gate economic networks which ensure a person's survival. Its kind of like micro perspective tunneling where many people are rather incapable from the onset to observe macro economic trends in the human animal because of the fight, clutter, spam of competing perspectives for economic power and consolidation.

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            [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            He doesn't have to know.

            Tadaaaa! Problem solved.

            [–]SexistFlyingPig 31 points32 points  (0 children)

            It's not even going to make the hamster break a sweat:
            Before the pregnancy, she's just fooling around. Her main man isn't as hot as Chad, but she doesn't want to have to move away from free rent.
            Then she gets pregnant. Now she's the victim. She has to think of not just her needs, but also the needs of the child (with that hot hunk Chad!). So her fooling her paycheck boyfriend is just her looking out for her child. How selfless of her!
            After the baby comes, she gets to keep the "get out of relationship free card" because as soon as she wants to end the relationship, when she's found a better BB, she can just tell him it's not his (after securing permanent maintenance through Child Support Services) and he'll kick her out. She gets to be the victim here too, because the man that she devoted 3-5 years of her life with is just kicking her out! He's so mean! She gets to keep all the friends.

            [–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 30 points31 points  (0 children)

            That is correct. Humans are one of the remarkably few mammal species with concealed ovulation, meaning, you don't know when she's fertile. Other mammals go into heat; other primates have their vaginas swell in estrus.

            Human women don't outwardly indicate fertility. That makes it easier to cuck the BB, as he doesn't know when to mate-guard.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            Evolution my friend. A female wants their children to be the strongest physically in order to survive, gather food and fight of predators. We are apes after all. Now that the human brain has evolved as well as society, a woman can have an alpha son whilst married to a beta who provides support and shelter for her and her offspring.

            [–]14931125 14 points15 points  (13 children)

            there are 4 options

            1. she has kids with the beta, this produces beta kids, as they are weak/inferior they have less of a chance of surviving/reproducing. Less chance of producing kids of their own means this trait is less likely to be passed on to future generations.

            2. she has kids with the alpha, this produces alpha kids. She attempts raises them on her own. They die. or if they do survive, they grow up weak/inferior. they have less of a chance of surviving/reporducing. Less chance of producing kids of their own means this trait is less likely to be passed on to future generations.

            3. she has kids with the alpha, this produces alpha kids. She tells the beta. Beta kills her/kills kids/turns her away. They die. or if they do survive, they grow up weak/inferior they have less of a chance of surviving/reporducing. Less chance of producing kids of their own means this trait is less likely to be passed on to future generations.

            4. she has kids with the alpha, this produces alpha kids. She doesnt tell the beta. beta raises kids. kids grow up and pass on alpha genes, which include the tendencies of the mum. thus repeating the cycle

            [–]KnG_Kong 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            They'll be fuck when that new sperm blocker injection comes out lol. They won't even know what happened, boom not mine that shit is blocked.

            Can't wait.

            [–]RobertCarraway 7 points8 points  (9 children)

            [–]laihipp 1 point2 points  (6 children)

            I mean it's a simple genetic test at birth of the child.

            [–]RobertCarraway 3 points4 points  (5 children)

            YOU HEAR THAT BITCH, /U/LIAHIPP HAS A SIMPLE TEST.

            [–]laihipp 1 point2 points  (4 children)

            I mean I love my wife and trust her, we have a joint bank account ect but if we had a kid, it's getting a paternity test. Doesn't seem unreasonable to be sure on something like this.

            [–]RobertCarraway 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            I wouldn't tell her you are getting the test. Makes total sense to me though.

            edit* Wouldn't

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              [–]Darkuso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              If she admits it, she and her bastard child might get killed, and fail to pass on her genes, so basically evolution programmed them to not feel any nagging guilt for cuckolding men.

              I thought exactly the same a couple weeks ago watching a documentary of lions, when a new male arrives to the pat by killing or kicking out the former male they will always kills the lions cubs that have less than 2 years old, because they don't want to raise another lion genes and by killing the cubs speeds up the lioness's zeal and have their own cubs.

              Before TRP I thought that this was something just normal on lions and kind didn't understand it but now for me is unnatural that a men raise another men childs, I'm sure that women do not feel even a bit of remorse passing another man child as yours but when a men do it knowingly is just stupid.

              [–]The84LongBed 31 points32 points  (2 children)

              Was friends with a girl in college who grew up with strict baptist parents let's call her Erin. When she got to college she became a total slut and would fuck so many dudes that's she couldn't keep track. She wasn't on birth control and often didn't use condoms.

              Erin's best friend was having a romantic valentines dinner with boyfriend. Erin shows up and convinces them to have a threesome. The dude barely fucked Erin then finished with his girlfriend.

              2 weeks or so later and Erin is pregnant. But Erin fucked so many dudes so often with no protection that she literally had absolutely no idea who to even suspect as the father. She can't tell her strict parents that doesn't have a clue who the father is. So she picks one. She claims that she got the baby gravy the night of the threesome from her best friends boyfriend. He was in school to be a veterinarian so she just pick the best candidate.

              So Erin's friend has to break up with her boyfriend so that they can raise a baby and get married.

              Erin's friend and I knew the whole story. We tried contacting the poor dude a couple of times to tell him the truth. We told his friends and roommates. We even wrote him an anonymous email detailing the whole story. Rumor has it that he read the email and got mad that people would accuse her of that.

              They had the baby a little over a year ago and I saw on Facebook that they got married last weekend. One day that kid is going to have to go through a devastation divorce when dad realizes that the baby doesn't look like ether one of them.

              Tldr: slut gets pregnant, tricks her friend into a threesome with said friends boyfriend so she can claim the guy as the father.

              [–]Squeezymypenisy 25 points26 points  (0 children)

              That's the father's fault. He had people telling him and he ignored it.

              [–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (30 children)

              TRP says that it's just in a woman's nature to do this, but I'm sick of excusing shitty behavior under the "it's natural, that's what they do bro" shit that gets passed around here.

              Yeah, it's natural. And it's also fucking evil. We all have natural urges that we suppress to live in a peaceful society. Maybe it's natural, but I'm done excusing it. It's fucked up and horrible.

              [–]BangkokPadang 42 points43 points  (10 children)

              Not excusing. RP is just about acknowledging the reality of it. Being aware of reality isn't the same as excusing it.

              In fact, we're actively NOT excusing it by teaching ourselves to avoid/defeat it.

              [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (9 children)

              God damn though. I just don't understand how anyone makes it out of the anger phase. I think I'm through it and, never failing, I'm shown another example of how shitty women can be. Yeah, it's natural. I get it. It makes me sick, though. I don't understand how guys here can just laugh it off as "it's in their nature" and just accept it for what it is. This is the sort of shit that I can't stand for.

              Perhaps I just need time to let the anger phase die down, but it won't be any time soon. In fact, the more examples I see of this type of shit (in my own life as well as posts here), the less I think I want anything to do with women.

              [–]SinisterSwindler 14 points15 points  (1 child)

              A lot of us feel the same way mate, in all honesty i'd rather fuck my hand for the rest of my life than get cucked by the whores of babylon.

              [–]BangkokPadang 3 points4 points  (3 children)

              Whether you stand for it or not, it will still be.

              Do you get angry at a forrest fire? A lightning strike? A flood? A blizzard?

              Or, do you live your life with an understanding of the nature of these things, and live so they cannot harm you.

              I see stuff like this and still get angry too, but I don't live in it. I understand that it is what it is, learn from it, and move on with my own life.

              [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              The anger phase has the longest plateau of any of the stages, I can assure you of that. And that's to be expected, especially when you realize that you've been making a lot of fundamental life decisions on dangerously-flawed information up until now. Who wouldn't be pissed about that? Here's the issue:

              The anger you experience in the anger phase comes from the disconnect between your expectations of women's behaviour and the actual outcome.

              The trick I've found to slogging through the anger phase is to drastically lower your expectations of women. Force yourself to look down on them. Regard them as animals or idiot children rather than as peers of the same species. Not out of hatred or spite, but out of calm and reasoned understanding of what they are.

              You wouldn't leave your plate of prime rib and mashed potatoes unattended with a dog in the room, because you can count on a dog to behave like a dog.

              By the same token, don't bankroll a bitch or fuck her bareback unless you're snipped and she's handed you her monthly clean bill of health. Because you can count on a woman to behave like a woman.

              Adjust your expectations and you'll never be disappointed. Without disappointment, you'll never have cause to be angry.

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (9 children)

              That moment when you awaken to the real truth that religion was created to lock down the hypergamous nature of women. Hey Adam, eat this apple you cuck.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

              Elaborate on this, I'm interested in your thoughts on religion and its relation to hypergamy.

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Christianity reinforces familial unity. Familial unity provides the foundations for nation states, which are a defence of the tribe. We're now transitioning to the religion of Progressive Thinking / Communism which itself 'frees' women from moral obligation (we see the results of this in TRP) this will build harem societies which will implement real inequality through the world in the form of slavery etc. TRP is only the blemish on the surface that hints at the cancer growing underneath the societal skin.

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                [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                Saying, "it's natural, that's what they do bro", isn't excusing their behavior. Who cares whether their behavior is "excused" or not? Society is always going to look kinder on their faults than yours.

                What it means is, "watch your back, don't trust a hoe. Risk mitigation/management".

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I think the attitude is: if you go into a cage with a lion, you might get your head bit off. Be prepared for it.

                It's not that it's right or excusable; it's just typical behaviour. you get a pet snake, you know you have to handle it carefully.

                [–]THE__USURPER 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I also feel like this and it weighs heavy on my heart. What about moral fiber and having a conscious? Sometimes it is in my nature to break some assholes face or forcefully fuck some hot dimepiece with her ass hanging out of her shorts. Obviously, I never follow through.

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                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  When you look at it that way, we are all just tools being used by Mother Nature for her own purposes.

                  [–]Magnum256 56 points57 points  (12 children)

                  This is one of the few things, were it to happen to me, that would motivate me to seriously slap the shit out of a woman. I was raised to "never hit a woman" and I never have, but this is one of the few things that would cause me to reconsider that stance.

                  I mean this is life-destroying stuff right here, a woman who's consciously and actively trying to pass a child off to a man as his own, which would then require him to dedicate the prime of his life to raising and paying for that child, when in reality he has no moral or biological obligation to do so. In some ways it shares similarities with framing a man for a crime that gets him life in prison when he's innocent all along.

                  [–]my_sfw_alias 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I would never hit a woman. In this case, a choke with slow, even pressure..

                  [–]ether_reddit 18 points19 points  (9 children)

                  By assuming the guy is too naive to ask for to get a DNA test?

                  [–]vicious_armbar 102 points103 points  (6 children)

                  Just as a reminder to guys here. You don't have to "ask" for a DNA test. You can order one online or from walgreens/cvs. All you need is a sample of your DNA [hair/cheek swab] and a sample of the childs DNA[hair/cheek swab]. They can then test both samples to see if they're a genetic match.

                  Just make sure the lab that you're sending it to is approved by the American Association of Blood Banks. Which is the certifying body.

                  [–]StrokeGameHusky 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                  This extremely helpful comment needs more upvotes. Will undoubtedly help some poor cuck

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                    [–]Dravous 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                    I'd pay real money for an HD video of this going down(not in general, this specific case). it would be a great case study of female psychology, specifically the hamster in a high pressure, fast pace scenario.

                    [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    If they were married, he would have been the assumed father. You know, the rules implemented in the past because pregnancy tests didn't exist.

                    [–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    In poor communities, 10% of children come from other men than who they think is their biological father. Women usually know who the real father is, but they have two options: Be a single mother, with a scorned reputation as a cheater... Or, try to tie it with the current guy and hope he never finds out, and live happily ever after.

                    It's a pretty easy decision.

                    [–]AntixD 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    looking out for themselves and their child

                    [–]ECoast_Man 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Haha yeah that's what a stuck out for me as well. I can't imagine typing that out, to the biological father no less, 'I'm planning on tricking my boyfriend into raising your spawn Chad'.

                    Some 'plan'.

                    [–]Echelon64 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                    Cuckolding is a natural behavior in the animal kingdom and we aren't much different.

                    [–]quelques_heures 170 points171 points  (54 children)

                    Lesson: Never trust the hivemind.

                    It's like reddit is made up of children who have no experience in the real-world or with other people. People on here are so gullible and credulous. They'll believe a dog can talk before they'll believe a girl can cheat on her boyfriend! smh

                    [–]I_luv_twinks 131 points132 points  (34 children)

                    There was a relationships thread where a 35M was getting destroyed by women for not leaving his hot new 23F when his 35F ex came crawling back.

                    There was a lot of gold about how he was a sexual predator, how the age difference offended all the post-wallers, but the best was the 17F who was dressing him down, talking about how her experience with LTR's says he's a scumbag. I was like, ...you're fucking 17. This is who feels qualified to make judgment calls on your relationship when you ask for advice from Reddit -- 17-year-olds and angry fat post-wall ex-CC riders.

                    [–]1 TRP SupporterFred_Flintstone 85 points86 points  (12 children)

                    Women go mental at men dating younger women. It hits them so hard.

                    Look at this article I accidentally opened yesterday: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3199280/Ryan-Phillippe-s-girlfriend-Paulina-Slagter-shows-long-legs-flat-stomach-crop-skirt-romantic-dinner-date.html

                    Good looking girl, 24, Stanford law student. Quite a skimpy outfit for dinner but whatever; they may have been going clubbing next.

                    Scoll down to the comments and sort by best. Its all women saying "eww" "shes ugly" "her legs are gross" (wtf?!) "sexual predator" type stuff. Thats the true nature of women right there!

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                      [–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (2 children)

                      This is called the 'women are wonderful' effect.

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                        [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                        "Listen and Believe"

                        This is exactly how a conman starts his pitch. There's a sucker born every minute...

                        [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 21 points22 points  (2 children)

                        Not quite the same situation, but similar happened to me yesterday.

                        I was out with a long-time friend from college, and his 30+ year old girlfriend (who has put on some weight). I am 30.

                        At dinner she makes some comment about how I'd be going after women in a lamaze class (implying I go after single mothers, or some other easy, low value demo).

                        I respond (almost unconsciously) with, "Ew, gross."

                        The girl immediately freaks out and goes, "Ew, gross? You think that's disgusting? You're no spring chicken yourself!"

                        She seemed personally offended that I would find a single mother unappealing. I, of course, stood my ground and she eventually dropped it.

                        The catch? I had banged a 22 year old significantly hotter than the girl who was giving me shit literally about 6 hours prior.

                        [–]1sardinemanR 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                        Yeah, sometimes on TRP we'll say those are shit tests but...I don't know, is it really a shit test when it just makes a woman completely intolerable and irritating to deal with?

                        I mean it's one thing for a 19 yo HB9 to throw out the shit tests, but a 35 year old single mother? Come on now, those aren't shit tests, those are just worthless women being shitty and aren't worthy of any man's time.

                        [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        She was actually not a mother herself, which sorta surprised me, because she was so vehement.

                        The girl in question has known me for like 10 years, and has only seen me a few times since I found PUA, and then TRP (and improved drastically), so my only guess is that it was beta shaming.

                        [–]Hydris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        It's simple really. If these guys have other options, like a younger and more attractive women, over them then that fucks up their plan. How can they be young and wild and when they are old and used up find some guy their age to marry if the guys won't date them.

                        [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 44 points45 points  (16 children)

                        They call you a pedophile and don't believe it when you mention you're fucking someone half your age and you're in your 40s. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard "date in your age group" but what the fuck do I want with fat, ugly, single moms who make bad choices in life and either hate men, want someone to pay for everything so she doesn't have to work anymore, and think they deserve to have the very best of everything?

                        There's been multiple threads on reddit about how bullshit it is that I fuck 18-28 year old girls and I'm 46. Yeah, it happens. I have one girl who is 43 but looks considerably younger, it's her native American ancestry. She likes to say she is mature, has outgrown all that shit, but she is fucking a bad boy that doesn't care what she does, because there are plenty of young girls out there willing to get vengefully fucked.

                        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                        The funny thing is that a narrow age gap is a relatively recent phenomenon, mostly brought on by women continuing their education and entering the workforce alongside men their own age. Prior to this it was more common to have a ten year age gap. You can still see that today if you look at people in their 70s and older, but since WWII people have married with smaller and smaller age differences.

                        This is an indirect result of feminism. Interestingly, people with about a ten year age gap tend to be much happier in their marriages, on average.

                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Excellent insight. I think I read before that the best age for a man to marry was 35 and the best age for a woman was 18. Goes to show how much of an influence culture has on people.

                        [–]Lazlo-Red 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                        Keep up the good work! Wait until you are in your fifties and picking your date up at her college dorm. Earn it by staying mentally fit, lifting and making bank!

                        [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                        I am 30 and your posts give me hope for the future.

                        I am worried about the idea of not being able to pull 18-25 year olds. I don't seem to have any problems yet, but it's always a worry in the back of my head.

                        [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                        Lift, lift heavy and long. Push yourself to be bigger than the next guy, then stay in shape. I got out of shape for a while, it's damn tough getting back into it. June and July were fucking rough.

                        At my age you can fuck anything between 18 and 55, if it looks good enough. Damn the old ones get pissy about the girls half my age. Got another college chick on the hook, just need to set it on her mouth now and get her spinning. Honestly if I can do this, anyone can. You can get the attitude and the muscle, everything else is a bonus.

                        [–]Banchamekk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        i remember that thread. lets say he wrote 50 lines of text, in one of them he mentioned how his new GF is hotter than his ex and young and boom, they wouldnt stop throw shit at him for it. it was ridiclilous.

                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Please tell me you have a link

                        [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Would love to see that thread. He's a sexual predator for dating a grown woman? I wonder what they think of Hugh Hefner.

                        I've a friend who is dating a woman who is so much younger than him that he's older than her parents. She's an adult and chose to be with him. I personally hope to someday be in the same situation.

                        [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (13 children)

                        God we need a way to separate these fucking idiots from their money.

                        [–]through_a_ways 33 points34 points  (1 child)

                        Reddit gold does a pretty good job

                        So does feminism

                        [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                        Anita Sarkeesian already figured it out.

                        [–]interestedplayer 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                        I have a plan: we'll party and fuck chads while they support us emotionally and with gifts, then "give in" and marry them after our looks are ruined, divorce them After two years and take over half their shit.

                        Am I the first to think of it?

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                            [–]StrokeGameHusky 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                            In fact, it's worthless. "Keep reddit afloat!" Is worthless as well. This site is a forum, nothing more. It can, and will, be easily replaced.

                            [–]NakedAndBehindYou 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                            I might care about keeping Reddit afloat if the business wasn't full of leftwing SJW's who support people like SRS. Also whoever is in charge of the business itself is completely retarded. They've pledged to donate millions of their revenue every year to charity despite the fact that they don't even make a profit yet. From a business perspective, that's completely absurd. Right now Reddit is only alive because of the graces of their investors. My guess is eventually the investors will decide to sell Reddit to a big corporation like Google and then the site userbase will migrate quickly away to somewhere else.

                            [–]MakingItWorthit 25 points26 points  (1 child)

                            Based on the behavior of so many reddit users, it's mostly adult children.

                            Half the place is turning into 9gag.

                            [–]TheOboeMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Well, I mean, at least half of reddit is high school students.

                            [–]GrandmasterHurricane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            In the update, some dude went as far as saying that this story is red pill fiction because of how things played out. In his mind, it's impossible for women to be that evil.

                            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Adult Children.

                            Ever meet a redditor in real life? More often than not they're some geeky nice guy who loves anime and gaming, probably still lives with their parents, and probably doesn't have much of a social life and they're "socially awkward" or whatever they call themselves. Most of them probably don't even have any experience with dating, let alone banging chicks or even running the bases. They're the guy who's in the beginning stages of sexuality in their life, all hopped up on blue pills and disney princess fantasies.

                            Reddit should be the last place you come to for relationship advice. When it comes to sex, hook ups, and how to handle a woman; best advice will usually come from a Chad or your super manly grandpa who still chops fire wood at 85.

                            Women are incapable of giving a man relationship advice because they have never seen things from the male perspective. Obviously they're going to side with a woman more often than not because they're imagining the situation as if they were in the female's shoes, not the males.

                            [–]BeefJesusMaker 92 points93 points  (5 children)

                            Jesus Christ. Sometimes the shit I see on here really makes me fucking sick. It really is a cruel world out there and you really need to watch your own back. A friend of mine said this to me a while back and it really stuck with me:

                            "There's a reason for that feeling you get in your gut. If you're picking up a certain vibe, almost every time, that's the vibe you're supposed to be getting."

                            Good thing this guy trusted his instincts. If he would've listened to the shitty advice he was getting here on reddit, he'd be raising another man's child. Sometimes accepting "advice" from people is the worst thing that could happen to you. Be careful, guys.

                            [–]vicious_armbar 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                            Gotta trust your gut! Every time I felt like something was off with a girl I've been right.

                            [–]StrokeGameHusky 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                            100% agree. It's not worth your time. Gtfo and find another.

                            [–]SwissPablo 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                            Raising another man's child, and she would doubtless still be seeing the real father too, a double whammy.

                            [–]my_sfw_alias 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                            Beige Phillip Rule: If you feel a tingle in your nuts, it means you're about to get kicked in the balls.

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                            [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

                            "But, bit, but, I would leave a guy that asked for a DNA test because that's accusing me of cheating"

                            That's said all the time on reddit.. Ya, go ahead and leave bitch, you think being a single mom is easy? You'll still be taking that test of you want child support anyway

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                              [–]Absinthe99 26 points27 points  (4 children)

                              IMO she pretty much planned this whole thing from the getgo... that is before she even moved in with him.

                              Note:

                              I met my girlfriend when I was away on business across the country. We hit it off really well and started a LDR, visited each other around 6-7 times a year, usually lasting a week.

                              Well in June she decided to quit her job and move across the country to live with me. She has been living with me in my apartment but has yet to find a new job. She has no family or friends in the area. It's a brand new start for her and she is completely dependent on me financially. I am the sole earner and pay for everything, while she takes care of the housework.

                              Assuming that this "6-7 times a year" has been for probably a bit over 2 years (and I'd bet most of those "visits" were actually less than a week, he's idealizing it) ...

                              I'd also be willing to bet that she's been seeing other guys, and/or in other "relationships", and assessing her various options throughout the whole time frame.

                              Dude was determined to be the "winner" of her own special "pick the best beta bux guy" version of eenie-meanie-miney-moe.

                              So... she'd made her choice, decided the time was NOW to lay her claim to the "nest" -- which she did in June.

                              She has yet to "find" a job, because she hasn't even been looking for one... instead she's been flipping through Tinder accounts looking for the right "Chad-the-sperm-donor/baby-daddy" candidate.

                              She got the lingerie, and slutty clothing so that she can get Chad all hot & bothered and willing to do her raw -- promising him of course not to worry because she's got the whole "birth control" thing all taken care of -- which isn't exactly a lie, because she has also bought/prepared all of the other accessories... to be "in control" of her pregnancy (i.e. the "beta boyfriend" has probably also unwitting been the funding source for an ovulation test kit, in order to properly time the several hookups with "Chad"; as well as a "multi-pack" of home pregnancy tests).

                              To her mind this has all -- so far -- worked out exactly according to plan. Provider "hubby" is in place, has nice home, good income, etc -- the proper sperm-donor was selected, met up with, did his job of impregnating her (right on schedule), and now she can settle in... having established her life/family on a solid basis.

                              Or at least so she thought.


                              Also, interesting that the elationships forum deleted the following subthread of comments & replies: https://archive.is/9CZHD including some pretty SOLID advice on what this guy needs to do ASAP (before even blowing her little "game" wide open) to cover his arse legally:

                              DO NOT HOLD YOURSELF OUT AS THE FATHER (don't think you would, but needed to be said). You can never undo that. You may need to see a family lawyer to see what you need to do to prevent being listed as the father.

                              The more I think about it, the more I need to say this: Get evidence of EVERYTHING. Go take it to a family lawyer - a damn good family lawyer, and see what you need to do to protect yourself from a false allegation of fatherhood / child support. A lawyer can tell you want to do and what not to do. Mention nothing to your soon-to-be-ex-girlfriend about this. You want the element of surprise on your side. If she makes a child support claim, you want to be able to ambush her and legally crush her as easily as possible.

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                                [–]Absinthe99 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                Notice also how everyone in that thread -- including the wimminz -- are referring to it as "the child" or "the baby".

                                The chick is what? 3 maybe 4 or at most like 5 weeks* pregnant... why is it that -- in THIS context -- it has already become a "child" and a "baby" and is not referred to as a "fetus"? (The favorite goto word when people want to kill/rid themselves of it.)

                                Seriously only like one comment/use in each thread (and then in both cases relative to how DNA testing can be done prior to birth) used the term "fetus"... everyone, and I do mean everyone else is calling it a "baby" or a "child".


                                *Technically of course it's not even a "fetus" yet -- that's a technical term referring to the stage AFTER about 2+ months of pregnancy (depending on who you ask, and when you begin counting, it doesn't become a "fetus" until somewhere between 8 weeks and 12 weeks) -- prior to that it's an "embryo" or even a "zygote". At the current stage of gestation, there's probably not even a heartbeat yet, nor any brain activity.

                                [–]Hegemott 49 points50 points  (5 children)

                                How can she have sex with a guy, get pregnant from it, and wait 2 weeks for the test?

                                She has unsafe sex, waits 2 weeks, gets the test, and still has 6 days left.

                                [–]quelques_heures 41 points42 points  (3 children)

                                But also the "how can she meet a guy?" comments. Like girls don't have ex-boyfriends, co-workers, fuck-buddies, etc. that her boyfriend doesn't know about.

                                And how do they rationalize it: it's in the past, why do you care about who I've been with!

                                [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                                Like it's hard for a woman to hook up.. I remember once at a bar a chick came up to me, sat on my lap, and told me I looked like a good guy to have an affair with.. Her exact words..

                                [–]Hegemott 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                                No no no, you're way too specific. Like girls don't go outside the house, is what you want to say.

                                [–]TheOboeMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                Not only that, but he only noticed the odd behavior for three weeks. Doesn't mean it didn't go on for longer.

                                [–]KarYotypeStereotype 17 points18 points  (8 children)

                                If you read the comments on the update, there are a bunch telling him he doesn't need screenshots of her texts and Facebook messages, because ultimately a paternity test will save him... This is just about the worst advice you could give, since in the US a paternity test does not get you out of child support. Proof of this girl's intent will go much farther in the court room.

                                [–]Tgibb 2 points3 points  (6 children)

                                A paternity test won't get you out of child support? Please explain.

                                [–]KarYotypeStereotype 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                                Not a whole more explaining I can do. In the US, a paternity test does not automatically get you out of child support. There are countless cases of men who continue to be held responsible for child support despite having proven that the child is not theirs. Just google "child support despite paternity test" and you'll get an idea.

                                [–]Polaris382 102 points103 points  (4 children)

                                He's a man, no one cares. Nothing new here, we must think of the womyn.

                                [–]Scizzler 36 points37 points  (3 children)

                                I'd love it if someone waited a few weeks/months and posted the identical story, just from a girls perspective instead. Imagine the responses then.

                                [–]newls 40 points41 points  (2 children)

                                "Chad slept with me and he got me pregnant. I feel so confused right now... he makes me feel so good but I know he wouldn't be a good dad, so I think I should start being nicer to Chuck again. It's best for the child right girls??"

                                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Whoever does this PM me the instant you post it! I want to see how hypocritical each person is from the current post in discussion.

                                [–]monsterhunter32 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                                No matter how many times I read stories like this, and no matter how much I know it's just in their nature, this still truly disgusts me. I feel disgust for both the woman who was going to cuckold the guy, and the original posters who told him he was paranoid. As a man you truly walk this earth alone.

                                [–]cariboo_j 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                It's almost like, you're forced to go your own way. Go your own waaay

                                [–]bidi123 28 points29 points  (0 children)

                                Lesson learned: Never listen to the bluepillers (males using woman crazytalk).

                                [–]1favours_of_the_moon 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                As for the pregnancy she confessed to him two weeks ago she's pregnant with his kid and how she plans to pass it off as mine.

                                Because it's MEN who are the crazy ones. LOL

                                [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 26 points27 points  (8 children)

                                Lesson: Never trust the hivemind.

                                Lesson: Trust your gut. That's several millennia of evolution in your lizard brain telling you the truth. Also ATP (Always Test Paternity).

                                [–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                                Lesson: Trust your gut.

                                you know adults have as many neurons in their 'guts' as a six year old child? that are capable of processing about as much information as a 6yo (apparently we are born with most of our neurons already there, it's the connections which change as we grow)

                                I've learned never to ignore my 'gut feelings'

                                edit: a mistake I crossed out

                                [–]CNileDotA 2 points3 points  (6 children)

                                As a six year old child has in his head, you mean? This is a real question, not calling you out.

                                [–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                                yep, seriously, it's only been discovered via MRI's and later fMRI"s but it's for real

                                Ling Lee, a microbiologist, says it makes sense to think of the nervous system that governs digestion as a brain. The “gut brain,” as Lee calls it, contains hundreds of millions of neurons—“as many nerves as in an adult cat,” she says. And also, it’s autonomous.

                                tp://qz.com/342830/you-have-a-second-brain-in-your-gut-and-it-wants-cake/

                                I can't find the reference to the 6yo bit but I'm fairly sure I read it somewhere! Oh well, a smart cat then!

                                Here's a bit more about it from another study

                                Technically known as the enteric nervous system, the second brain consists of sheaths of neurons embedded in the walls of the long tube of our gut, or alimentary canal, which measures about nine meters end to end from the esophagus to the anus. The second brain contains some 100 million neurons, more than in either the spinal cord or the peripheral nervous system, Gershon says.

                                This multitude of neurons in the enteric nervous system enables us to "feel" the inner world of our gut and its contents. Much of this neural firepower comes to bear in the elaborate daily grind of digestion. Breaking down food, absorbing nutrients, and expelling of waste requires chemical processing, mechanical mixing and rhythmic muscle contractions that move everything on down the line.

                                Thus equipped with its own reflexes and senses, the second brain can control gut behavior independently of the brain, Gershon says. We likely evolved this intricate web of nerves to perform digestion and excretion "on site," rather than remotely from our brains through the middleman of the spinal cord. "The brain in the head doesn't need to get its hands dirty with the messy business of digestion, which is delegated to the brain in the gut," Gershon says. He and other researchers explain, however, that the second brain's complexity likely cannot be interpreted through this process alone.

                                "The system is way too complicated to have evolved only to make sure things move out of your colon," says Emeran Mayer, professor of physiology, psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences at the David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles (U.C.L.A.). For example, scientists were shocked to learn that about 90 percent of the fibers in the primary visceral nerve, the vagus, carry information from the gut to the brain and not the other way around. "Some of that info is decidedly unpleasant," Gershon says.

                                The second brain informs our state of mind in other more obscure ways, as well. "A big part of our emotions are probably influenced by the nerves in our gut," Mayer says. Butterflies in the stomach—signaling in the gut as part of our physiological stress response, Gershon says—is but one example. Although gastrointestinal (GI) turmoil can sour one's moods, everyday emotional well-being may rely on messages from the brain below to the brain above. For example, electrical stimulation of the vagus nerve—a useful treatment for depression—may mimic these signals, Gershon says

                                (link deactivated to stop bot removing post)ww.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/

                                Also, this is some trippy arse shit as our 'microbiome's' are coming to show they have an enormous affect on us in many ways, from health to moods!

                                http://www.livescience.com/49373-google-hangout-on-brain-and-microbiome.html

                                good question, enjoy

                                matrix

                                [–]Kwantuum 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                                This is sensationalism.

                                The enteric nervous system consists of some 500 million neurons, (including the various types of Dogiel cells), one two-hundredth of the number of neurons in the brain, and 5 times as many as the one hundred million neurons in the spinal cord.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system

                                Most of the article is vulgarization, it is written to be interesting to read, not to be scientifically accurate. Be careful of sources that rely on views/reads for their funding. The more commonly accepted theory is that the brain when put under stress (conscious or not) will activate the sympathetic system (also known as fight or flight response) because under stress conditions the blood flow and energy consumption need to be directed to muscles instead, effectively it will slow down gut transit and this can be felt.

                                If you have a gut feeling when a topic is brought up, your brain has detected something is shifty and it's probably worth investigating.

                                (reminder that I'm not arguing with the point of the gut feeling, just trying to avoid misinformation, even if it goes in the right direction)

                                [–]Kwantuum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                The enteric nervous system consists of some 500 million neurons, (including the various types of Dogiel cells), one two-hundredth of the number of neurons in the brain, and 5 times as many as the one hundred million neurons in the spinal cord.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system

                                The claim "as many neurons in their 'guts' as a six year old child" is inaccurate but yeah you do have a good deal of gut neurons. Though sensory information is not really fed to it, the gut feeling is more the brain sensing something and tensing up the gut than the gut neurons processing information into a threat signal, I still think gut feelings are to be investigated if not trusted. Do not rationalize, look into it before calling it a day!

                                [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                                Well he asked for advice in r/relationships.. Wtf was he expecting.. That place is overrun with hamsters and white knights.

                                Personally I think his story shows a lot of wisdom. On his part.. Yeah she tried to cuckold him but he's no fucking mug

                                [–]emblasochist 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                If you haven't been to TRP or even heard of it, /relationships seems like the best place to ask these questions. It is a default sub, after all.

                                Yeah she tried to cuckold him but he's no fucking mug

                                Disagree on that. She was just a random port in the storm and instead of treating it as a ONS, he treated it like a LTR where he would get to fuck her for 2+ years once every 2 months or so. If she was that good in bed for a ONS that he would decide to come back out in 2 months, she was already banging other dudes too. No girl that's a great fuck wants to go 2 months before getting fucked again...

                                [–]abetterarsonist 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                I read a book called 'I am Asher Lev,' which was about the Jewish artist of the same name. There's a quote in the book attributed to Russian Orthodox Jews which states that "every murder is a genocide."

                                The idea being that in murdering someone you're not just killing the person but all of his unborn descendants as well. I like the quote, and I beleive something similar could be said of cuckolding.

                                [–]fickle_fuck 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                                If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck...

                                [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                                It's a sorority girl making duck faces....

                                And taking several cocks.

                                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                I said it once and I'll say it again: relationships are TERRIBLE for men. LTR's aren't worth it anymore, let alone marriage. This infidelity shit happens more frequently than you expect.

                                It's a new age. Don't wanna get hurt? Don't commit to any girl.

                                [–]thegr8b8m8 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                Not trying to state the obvious here but do we really need any kind of reminder of who the average reader of reddit is?

                                [–]JohnPeel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                Dear god those people are idiots.

                                They're actually arguing the science of how possibly she could have tested positive for pregnancy in 3 weeks. Aside from the fact that it is actually possible, which whilst demonstrating further how retarded they are, is a complete red herring...

                                ...She was simply lying.

                                [–]darkshine05 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                                Ever ask women for advise. They just keep on with the pedestal mentality. Ask a guy for advise on women.

                                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                                Does a fisherman ask the fish how to catch it? Or does he ask more experienced fisherman?

                                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                "Also, just as an aside I got pregnant even though we used a condom, even though it didn't break. It can slip or have a small tear that might not be obvious during/after intercourse. It would not be the first time for this to happen."

                                No it wouldn't

                                [–]alclarkey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                Okay 3 weeks ago he just started noticing strange things, the cheating could have been going for far longer. Oh the hamster.

                                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                                As many as 5% of children are misattributed to the wrong father. That is 1/20. 1/20 men out there are raising somebody else's child because a woman lied to them.

                                If there was a phenomenon like this that men were guilty of, feminists would be bemoaning how evil patriarchy is.

                                This is straight-up sociopathic behaviour. Emotional manipulation. It's evil. It's disgusting.

                                [–]bea5tly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                Any one who is dumb enough to not get a paternity test when a kid is born deserves it. Walgreens sells them for $24 and you can do it fast without the girl knowning. All results are emailed to you and there you have it.

                                Note: Yes I've had my friend do this before so I know how easy it is.

                                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                Ugh so many "man-eaters" and apologists, that sub is kinda cancer

                                [–]Liverotto 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                I'll take "Am I a beta cuck?" for $400, Alex!

                                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                My favorite part is when they attack the timeline, nobody thought it might have started sooner and it was only when it intensified (as it did) that the guy noticed?

                                [–]All-DayErrDay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                At this point unless you straight up saw your girl being fucked by a guy, no one ever wants to believe that the girl was in the wrong. There's always so many 'variables' that these obvious red flags could be about. Who cares about the 'variables' when the most obvious and likely cause is what should be on your mind.

                                [–]ItsCold_ItsCold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                Please update when the hivemind justifies her actions.

                                [–]alphbux 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                From one of his comments later:

                                I pay the bills completely, I pay for all of our food and necessities. I feel humiliated that I paid for her new jewelry clothes and lingerie, all of which she wore just to look good for the other guy.

                                [–]__528491__ 16 points17 points  (6 children)

                                If he's smart he will keep quiet until an abortion is no longer an option. Then he dumps that cunt's ass for full effect.

                                [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 64 points65 points  (4 children)

                                No he should GTFO of that situation entirely. Fuck fucking around with bitches lives just make sure your own shit is in order.

                                While it hasn't happened yet acting as 'daddy' during the pregnancy could potentially leave you on the hook as the presumed father. I'd rather avoid having to try to make or break that precedent in family court. Remember family court is all about what's best for the child (and the government by blaming any man they can for child support) too not what's RIGHT.

                                [–]sir_wankalot_here 13 points14 points  (2 children)

                                In many countries and states if parentage is not contested after X years it is legally his kid even of DNA proves otherwise.

                                [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                                Yep let us not forget he may actually live in a commonlaw by adhesion jurisdiction where if he's been living with her for more than 2 years they might just be treated as married too. That really fucks you over as a man and is another reason not to move in with your GF or move her in with you.

                                [–]sir_wankalot_here 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Exactly, in some European countries they are attempting to rule that paternity tests violate the rights of the woman.

                                [–]holytrpbatman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                Well said. There is no reason to continue a game when you have been cast as the fool. Be better than that, if you play along, you will only give the hamster time to continue justification. End the game heartlessly and the hamster has to deal with reality in a much more focussed bout of self reflection.

                                [–]horsedream 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                I'd prefer 1 less spite baby in this world.

                                [–]bloodfoxtrue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Feel bad for you man! It's disgusting she cheated on you and (presumably) wants your support for the child, so I'm glad you know the truth now.

                                [–]The-Ban-Hammer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Yup. All the women couldn't wait to tell him he's paranoid and/or misogynistic for thinking she couldn't just "like lingerie for herself" or whatever silliness they say aloud when lying to others and themselves.

                                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                People forget when there is smoke there tends to be fire.

                                We see too often the fedora tipping excuse makers on reddit m'ladying all over themselves trying to protect the poor helpless womyns - even ones they've never met before or will ever know in their entire lives.

                                Meanwhile dude has seen some changing behavior patterns and sneaky behavior that troubles him enough to come online and ask people who he believes to be impartial the question of "I'm not crazy am I? This isn't happening is it?"

                                People (read: men) sometimes have a hard time wrapping their heads around the idea that someone could be that selfish and dishonest as to live that kind of lie and to lie to their own children about who their father is, just to escape blame for their own bad decision making. Unfortunately, the truth is it happens more often them people like to think (or know about).

                                Furthermore, people also dismiss the damage this does to people's lives - to fathers and children - for the sake of safeguarding the woman' interest at all costs.

                                The denial is deep and troubling for us observers in the know.

                                For me, this is just another wood on the pile. We've seen this so, so many times here on reddit (and elsewhere). I'm no longer shocked at any kind of revelation. I just shrug in acceptance.

                                This is how people are: the womyns who selfishly lie for their own benefit - and the dumbfuck white knights that defend these liars.

                                [–]FutureLawyer1989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                He's still keeping up appearances? Why not just drop the bitch?

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