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Men's RightsMacron wants make wolf whistling and asking for women's numbers illegal under new plans to end 'macho' culture in France (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Casd12

Yeah, you read that right. The feminisation and suppression of men continues.

Heres the link to the article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4902104/Macron-s-plan-end-macho-culture-France.html

https://imgur.com/a/fVOrI

The Key points in the article:

  • French President has vowed to end harassment in steets and on public transport

  • A working party has been sent up by his under-secretary for gender equality

  • Marlene Schiappa is looking at what fines to introduce and how to impose them

  • Plans to end 'macho' culture could see wolf-whistling become a criminal offence

Emmanuel Macron wants to ban men from following women and asking for their phone number under new plans to end the 'macho' culture in France.

The 39-year-old French President vowed to crackdown on harassment on public transport and in the street when he was on the election trail earlier this year.

A Brief Summary

"A working party set up by, Marlene Schiappa, the under-secretary for gender equality, is now looking to produce legislation making it illegal to harass people in a public place - and this could mean outlawing wolf-whistles."

To Conclude

This proposal gives women the power to claim harassment if she is at all feeling uncomfortable, and if convicted, you'll have a criminal record. The fact that this type of harassment is very hard to prove makes this law a very deadly weapon which can ruin mens' lives. Also because noone likes being harassed, this proposal's true intent is hidden under a mask portraying the intent of stopping harassment while in reality, its to promote censorship and the supression of men.

EDIT: grammar, imgur link add on and final sentence

Here are some additional links

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4506566/france-wolf-whistling-chatting-up-telephone-number-sexism/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-ban-wolf-whistling-sexual-harassment-marlene-schiappa-a7956836.html

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sexual-harassment-france-could-ban-105102522.html

These are links from medias in France.

http://www.journaldesfemmes.com/societe/actu/1909489-harcelement-de-rue-marlene-schiappa-groupe-travail/

http://www.la-croix.com/France/Securite/Marlene-Schiappa-sattaque-harcelement-rue-2017-09-20-1200878240

http://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/penaliser-le-harcelement-de-rue-est-ce-faisable-1244846


[–]1v1crown 419 points420 points  (59 children)

This is above mens rights and more along the lines of freedom of speech/censorship. This could be a very slippery slope for the freedoms that citizens of France have.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 206 points207 points  (32 children)

Freedom?

They only have freedom to get cuckolded and murdered and not necessarily in that order.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 105 points106 points  (24 children)

You can't even paternity test when you're French man.

[–]Wilreadit 74 points75 points  (9 children)

First declare you're not a man but an attack helicopter.

Then point out your "alleged" offspring doesn't have turbines.

Call for paternity test.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I bet they have law that actually forbids white heterosexual males to claim that

[–]Karlj213 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Technically turbines are used for jet propulsion. Rotors are used in helicopters.

https://m.imgur.com/t/reaction/Ek6jgeF

[–]sigma272 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Shit, so if my kids have turbines but I'm an attack helicopter... has my wife been taking some Big Black Cockpit on the side?

[–]rp_newdawn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Shit man you don't even need a paternity test with evidence that damning

[–]Quantic 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Former Marine Helicopter mechanic here,

They technically do. If your children are apache helicopter offspring they'd be born with jet turbine engines which power the rotors.

[–]Karlj213 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Please don't prove me wrong I'm trying to win internet points

[–]Wilreadit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well I am a Kamov Ka 52. How the hell did they become Apaches?

[–]intentionally_vague 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah most helicopters are powered by turboshaft engines.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That's the cuckoldry part of my statement.

Although, I could've meant immigration, but per UN definitions Europe's coordinated population replacement plan is genocide.

[–]HobbesTheBrave 0 points1 point  (12 children)

After my understanding of all things TRP, I can't decide if it's the dumbest or the smartest law there is.

Either it's great to get rid of all of the non-alphas out of the french genepool. Or it's stupid when betas check out of the ambitious work, the tax-paying for their children.

[–]throwawaypsycho80 21 points22 points  (11 children)

It is stupid.

If you knew how genetics really work you'd know women actually fail to spot good genes based on first impressions.

All this is going to achieve is create a massive MGTOW-type current in France which will eventually leave the state broke.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Isn't it a beautiful world. They are implementing every single law to fuck you over in your efforts. But those two. Great stuff.

[–]xrorox_rp 20 points21 points  (5 children)

As a French, I would like to point that you are not sent (yet) to HR for holding a door or things like that.

The worst part is than pro EU, open borders proponents like Macron only got a close victory at last presidential election.

But the damage may have already been done. Head of DGSI (french counter espionnage and interior security) thought civil war was only matter of time. This possible Civil War would be between muslims and alt-right supporters. Actually, this seems improbable or extremely remote to french people. But the 2005 riots may prove his points.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3685561/France-verge-civil-war-sparked-mass-sexual-assault-women-migrants-intelligence-chief-warns.html

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 6 points7 points  (2 children)

If you look at history and recent history you will see a systemic pattern of brainwashing and genocide.

article 2 of the Convention defines genocide as

...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2[3]

Article 3 defines the crimes that can be punished under the convention:

(a) Genocide;

(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide; (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

(d) Attempt to commit genocide;

(e) Complicity in genocide.

— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 3[3]

Whether or not the proles wake up from their brainwashing and reclaim their manhood will be the deciding factor in whether a civil war breaks out.

Globalists do nothing if not sow the seeds of destruction so that they can profit later. They are a cancer that eats at its host to survive.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a fellow French, I’m so glad I don’t live there anymore... ce bordel.

[–]Skrittext 54 points55 points  (2 children)

This is not a men's right issue, it's an immigration issue. Women can barely walk around without being hounded by refugees. It's become a third world country and they can't address the problem because it's insensitive to the multiculturalism and subsequent destabilization of western culture within France.

You take a coyote out of the wild and put it in your house and it pisses on your rugs and bites your children, then you have to keep it in a cage or kick it out. Macron approach: keep your children in a cage until they get tired of it and move out while making excuses for the coyote

[–]krefnasterploc 106 points107 points  (19 children)

Are they doing this because of all the Paki rape gangs raping hundreds of thousands of young girls all over Europe in that huge slave sex traffic circle shit.... or Muslims throwing acid at women?

Or is this literal feminist Nazis taking over at this point. I'm confused

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 61 points62 points  (7 children)

They are doing this because socialists always need a new way to spend someone else's money, and giving the government the power to collect money from men who were reported to have spoken to a woman is a way they can actually do that in 2017.

France's shit is cucked up. Has been for a long time.

Just like with child support and alimony and their ban on paternity testing, the point of these laws is to target the men who have the ability to pay.

This is the government being greedy and opportunistic and looking for a way to take advantage of 2017's political climate to get some positive PR and extra $. They have no interest in actually protecting French women from being raped by migrant populations.

[–]throwawaypsycho80 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I thought women LOVED being "raped" by migrants anyway.

Look at what happened in Germany and Sweden...

[–]AlphaGrad 68 points69 points  (0 children)

The shit test has gone too far now.

And now, mating rights are only reserved for foreign immigrants from established shitholes.

[–]BullshittingNonsense 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Well I mean there are already laws to stop Muslim rape gangs because, you know, rape has always been illegal. This is definitely more feminazi shit

[–]caliboo2 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Haha somehow I don’t think the sand people are the ones asking for phone numbers.

[–]Hombremaniac 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Perhaps they are, but only after they are finished with the whole "cultural exchange".

Btw Macron is gerontophiliac, but more importantly conmplete idiot. He is trying to earn PR points on this and other such cases like for example when he called Putin to stop the oppression of gays in Chechnya. If he only was trying to solve his own's country deep economical and social problems instead...

[–]CrazedHyperion 6 points7 points  (1 child)

His name checks out - Mar(i)con.

[–]Hombremaniac 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, did not see it there. And he indeed is the prezident of maricons, spending so much for makeup, that it would make supermodel jealous.

[–]lucafrattatoni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not against what you are saying, I'm not in favour of what you are saying, I'm not taking any stance, I would just like to have some proof for your claims.

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[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Unless a refugee, then innocent because dey coultcha

[–]1empatheticapathetic 56 points57 points  (0 children)

I can see this very soon actually.

[–]BullshittingNonsense 17 points18 points  (2 children)

You must get signed written consent to have sex or you are at risk of being called out for rape

[–]sweetleef 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Retroactive withdrawal of consent. Checkmate, shitlord.

[–]CrazedHyperion 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, consent can be withdrawn at any moment, or even ex-post facto.

[–]AlphaGrad 11 points12 points  (6 children)

I'm sorry, is this the UAE? Seems like it.

[–]ezone2kil 40 points41 points  (5 children)

Ironicaly the UAE is the most TRP. Women are treated that way there because they recognize women are emotional creatures that cannot be trusted to make rational decisions in the household. Women also can't be the leader of a country because of their emotional nature.

[–]Maccabaei 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You reminded me of Hegel when he compares women to plant and men to animals. Neither is good nor bad rather than just a way of life like yin and yang. He also states that "when women become leaders, the nation are in jeopardy. They can be good but no excellent". It's sad for me to see a masculine culture in Germany has been dead and now the fuckwits feminists are taking over the place. But at least Russia still keeps their masculinity and Trump has been voted so there's that.

[–]winterrider 39 points40 points  (3 children)

UAE goes too far. I don't believe in sentencing women who have been raped to jail and women do deserve equal rights.

[–]ezone2kil 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Agreed. I'm Muslim but from a different region so while I understand the reasoning, the UAE does take things too far.

Originally, the requirement for 4 devout male witnesses in cases of sexual intercourse outside marriage was due to women being unreliable witnesses.

It's a bit much to me personally but looking at all the false rape accusations it's not without basis.

Jailing the woman is totally something the UAE made up as far as I know though.

[–]CrazedHyperion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you crazy? I'm pretty certain that they have marital rape law, also.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This actually sounds plausible.

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[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (3 children)

This is the winning answer

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

But now it's deleted, how do we see it?

[–]Shariabluew 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Too true, no experience understanding it so being the good little teacher's pet he takes their word for it. Pure grandstanding bs

[–]1SirKolbath 114 points115 points  (15 children)

Since when has fuckin' FRANCE been macho?

[–]Linoran 57 points58 points  (2 children)

There was that one time when Napoleon was around.

[–]INTJokes 29 points30 points  (0 children)

They needed a Corsican to be macho.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah napoleon was hangin big dong while it lasted

[–]Perfect-Practice 27 points28 points  (0 children)

They are HARD closers...

They just cant fight.

[–]AlphaGrad 8 points9 points  (2 children)

The only thing macho about France is the big dick Eiffel tower.

[–]InternetHateDevice 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's really not that impressive honestly.

[–]yaardi 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Since always. French men have the lover stereotype going on for them. Same with the Italians and Spaniards.

[–]WolfofAnarchy 38 points39 points  (3 children)

French men have the lover stereotype going on for them

Which is a smooth image, not a macho one.

[–]sicknick 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I always thought it was the overly aggressive, smelly Pepe LePue type.

[–]Orsick 8 points9 points  (0 children)

In my country French have the gay stereotype, also some of my friends who lived in France for about a year told me that their game is incredibly weak.

[–]Dead_Art 80 points81 points  (3 children)

Yeah lotta native french over there cat calling, definately has nothing to do with the high influx of african and middle eastern immigrants from countries where women have no rights.

[–]The_DogeWhisperer 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Just wait until they start to feel targeted by law enforcement and new laws such as these and decide to rebel. Going to be like Bastille all over again.

[–]BullshittingNonsense 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Honestly would be kinda funny and just desserts if the Muslims started to rebel in Europe. Don't think Europe will have the balls to do anything before it's way too late and it's kinda already too late

[–]slumdog-millionaire 80 points81 points  (100 children)

This is fucking absurd if it's true, but isn't the daily mail kind of like a tabloid in the UK

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 20 points21 points  (39 children)

Nah they have laws like this in the UK already.

[–]WolfofAnarchy 19 points20 points  (37 children)

Yeah, but no one here believes that the UK is worth comparing or saving anymore. That society is fucked.

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[–]2awalt_cupcake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

its like school bullshit when one small group in the classroom misbehaves everyone gets punished

[–]mikas75 28 points29 points  (20 children)

I'm french and I'm fuckin disgusted this man won the election, 3 years earlier nobody knew who he was and millions of french people are persuaded the election was corrupted the way the medias praised him while they attacked all the other big candidates for months before the election, and the only reason he won was not because he had such a wonderful charisma, political project or what but because people did not want to vote for her opponent, Marine Le Pen, considered a fascist, neo-nazi and so on by the medias, after only 4 months he's already the most hated president since 1958 ! Wish me good luck with that prick I'll have to bear til 2022

[–]throwawaypsycho80 1 point2 points  (17 children)

J'en peux plus de la France (et l'Europe en général)... Je pensais que c'était pourri avec Sarko, ensuite c'était pire avec Hollande, mais là c'est le pompon...

[–]mikas75 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Ah tiens je pensais pas croiser un français ici ! Là je fais tout pour gratter un visa pour un pays anglophone et d'ailleurs c'est pour ça que je traine sur Reddit pour améliorer mon anglais ( USA, Canada ou Australie) car je vais sur mes 25 ans et je refuse de passer ma vie d'adulte dans un pays et un continent aussi claqués, je suis jeune mais je me rappelle de 2007 comme si c'était un monde complètement différent avant Sarkozy, la crise et le traité européen, et plus ça va et plus ça devient invivable !

[–]throwawaypsycho80 2 points3 points  (2 children)

J'ai 37 balais... Et franchement je me vois mal refaire ma vie bien que tout semble m'y pousser...

J'ai vécu aux USA (en fait j'y ai fait mes études) ne t'attends pas à des miracles pour ce qui est des femmes; ceci dit elles sont moins "policées" qu'en France, mine de rien.

Je ne sais pas, la mentalité française... Je la trouve finalement moins "ouverte" que dans les pays anglo-saxons. Je suis d'un naturel artistique bien que finalement aussi un bon geek de première; aux USA ou en Angleterre on te regarde moins de travers si tu t'habille un peu "bizarrement" ou alors que tu expliques que tes centres d'intérêt sont: la compo musicale, la philosophie et les algorithmes de compression audio/vidéo... En France j'ai l'impression de devoir dire que mes centres intérêt sont: le foot, le foot, les apéros entre "amis", et le boulot.

J'ai connu la France et de manière générale la vie avant tout le bordel mélodramatique du politiquement correct, des réseaux « sociaux » et tout se passait finalement pas si mal que ça. Les relations hommes-femmes étaient beaucoup plus simples et satisfaisantes sans avoir à gérer les délires du féminisme "third wave". En même temps peut être je me fais vieux...

[–]mikas75 1 point2 points  (1 child)

37 ans c'est pas vieux ! Et si je vais aux US c'est pas pour les gonzesses mais pour moi quoi, le boulot, le lifestyle, etc...! Côté filles j'ai commencé à m'intéresser à la séduction en 2006 donc j'étais vraiment jeune et du coup j'ai vite appris à pratiquer et à maîtriser le truc et à creuser mon trou avec les filles, mais depuis près d'un an que je fréquente Reddit et trp je me rends compte que là aussi comme partout les américains sont vraiment loin devant nous question drague ; globalement même s'il y a une bien pensance en France avec suffisamment de confiance en soi tu peux te faire accepter à peu près partout sauf chez les gens vraiment cons même si t'as des délires un peu "edgy", juste après les présidentielles jme rappelle avoir dit à un groupe de gens en soirée que j'avais voté Le Pen aux deux tours ( ce qui était vrai, mais plus par déconnade que par adhésion car je savais qu'elle passerait pas de toute façon) et globalement si tu te défiles pas ils s'en foutent autant que toi et c'est même une manière d'attirer l'attention sur toi aussi bien de la part des mecs que des meufs. Quoiqu'il en soit t'as raison sur le fait que les choses sont allées beaucoup trop vite ces dernières années, on est saturés par les réseaux sociaux et les mouvements d'extrême gauche en lien avec le féminisme dégénéré et autres anti-fascistes, je me dis donc que l'herbe est forcément plus verte quelque part ailleurs

[–]throwawaypsycho80 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Niveau drague je m'y suis pris très tard, après la rupture avec mon ex... On va dire à 34 ans... Sinon avant ça j'étais trop pris dans mes centres d'interets d'"autiste" comme l'electronique, le code etc...

Donc sociallement je suis plutôt nul.

[–]meaningintragedy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tu serais surpris du nombre de français/francophones sur TRP. ;)

[–]meaningintragedy 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Tu serais surpris du nombre de français/francophones sur TRP. ;)

[–]xrorox_rp 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Feminists are going to be the first to applaud. Then the first to cry when sex robots will become mainstream.

[–]newls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ten seconds later she's like... "ewww so many creeps here... arrrghh why won't this hot guy take my hints and ask for my number???"

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (3 children)

France lost their macho culture long before Macron was ever born.

[–]Xoramung 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He is a product of the beta culture.

[–]CrazedHyperion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The moment they started building their tanks with reverse gear.

[–]bkk123 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Modern France has always been a shitty place.

Sky high taxes, low incomes, shitty work environments (very top down management that acts like they do you a favor by employing you for low pay), flooded with impoverished low IQ unskilled migrants. This is merely a last measure to make a shitty place even shittier.

[–]Dimone_Freehold 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Maybe he should outlaw migrant rape gangs first. Highly unlikely he will cause apparently France/Europe is into live cuckolding porn.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that would make them racist and we can't have that in this day and age

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[–]Shakydrummer 81 points82 points  (0 children)

Honestly pretty valid. Some people don't know when to back the fuck off. That being said, making it illegal is pants on head retarded.

[–]Hyperian 27 points28 points  (9 children)

You must be a very hot looking gay straight man

[–]ktchong 12 points13 points  (8 children)

... or the OP was Asian, and the creep was a Rice Queen.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 17 points18 points  (5 children)

So are we going to ban all the things which are "annoying" to some people now? If that was a petite red head with a sweet face, big titties and a small ass, you maybe wouldn't have been annoyed, would you?

Also pretending that there is some kind epidemic, where women can't walk 10ft. without getting harrassed is just fucking bullshit.

[–]greatslyfer 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Except 99% of the time it's a fat, ugly fuck who's bitter when he doesn't get a good reaction when he catcalls from a distance.

[–]Maccabaei 13 points14 points  (9 children)

Gay man here and can confirm. We give up if the guy refuses and tells us he's straight. Prob the guy keeping hitting at you has some sorts of his personal issues.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 17 points18 points  (8 children)

No we were busy painting gay men as all the same. Why'd you have to ruin it.

[–]Maccabaei 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Lol. Just let you know that I'm gsy, can look a bit effiminated since I'm vain but inside, my mind and way of thinking are masculine than lots of straight guys who are pussy as f. 😂

[–]CrazedHyperion 2 points3 points  (6 children)

May we ask you, out of sheer curiosity, what kind of job you hold, or at least if it is a quintessentially masculine job (coal miner, bricklayer, trash collector, etc), or something softer, like office work, interior design, art critic, etc?

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (5 children)

He's a fashion designer on a space ship. What other job would hire a homosexual?

Why would the masculinity level of a job define any man?

[–]CrazedHyperion 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Why would sexual orientation define any man?

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It wouldn't. How about my initial question of why would his choice of job define his masculinity?

[–]reckful994 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Where in SF? I've worked here for about 8 years and lived here my whole life - my job takes me across all social circles from the politicians at City Hall to the slums of Hunter's Point. I've rarely seen people aggressively hitting on others in public outside of the nightlife at bars and clubs (and even then its rather tame compared to other big cities). I can count the number of times Ive seen "wolf whistling" on my hand during the day (literally twice).

I don't know where you're seeing this.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Are you serious? I lived in the gayest neighborhood in the world for much of my life and usually gay men know when you are straight.

[–]AlphaGrad 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They still did in OP's case.

[–]wanderer779 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm a straight guy and I've been hit on by gays. It's really not that bad, you just tell them no. They usually persist and then I just laugh at them.

I understand it's worse for pretty girls, but it's just part of life. If you're a girl you get hit on and aren't taken seriously. If you're a guy you have to deal with rejection and aren't given any sympathy. And if our politicians get to feeling macho then you might have to go die in a ditch. On the whole women are getting off easy.

The other complicating factor is that for most guys you can't get laid without being proactive, bordering on pushy. How many stories have we heard where an old couple is interviewed and the girl says, "he kept asking me out, I didn't like him at first but he started to grow on me.". Translation: I said no to everyone but Chad, but this guy had balls and that turned me on.

[–]BullshittingNonsense 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How is it the government's job to regulate that? Also step up and tell them to fuck off. Most women now have no problem telling you off if you check them out.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 150 points151 points  (13 children)

Who knew that a Rothschild banker would push the Globalist agenda? Gotta keep them white goys weak and docile during the Muslim takeover. Laws only apply to Europeans. Muslims are free to continue to rape and pillage because that is their culture.

[–]1AfterC 46 points47 points  (4 children)

Yup, the irony is that these policies may inadvertently target black and muslim frenchmen.

Alas, no white french woman would dare a racist accusation of that sense. So primarily whites will be punished.

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    [–]BullshittingNonsense 22 points23 points  (0 children)

    Just like in the U.K.: we could not let terrorists in and watch the ones that are here but instead we're gonna crack down on Tommy Robinson

    [–]donkeyotee 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    Well shit. What's a man supposed to do? Just stand passively and wait for a woman to come and rip his clothes off? Because at this point that seems to be the only way a man can avoid being accused of harassment or rape.

    [–]sweetleef 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    No matter what you do, or don't do, you can be "accused" of it, which carries stigma, cost, and reputation destruction equivalent to being convicted.

    And even if she pleads for sex in front of a notary, with her hand on the Bible, they can argue that the consent was retroactively withdrawn, so it's still rape.

    [–]p1ndl3t0n 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Welp--looks like wearing a body cam for day to day life won't be such a bad idea here soon.

    [–]Utterberetacht 14 points15 points  (3 children)

    Countries like France are already well beyond saving. Best to just pull the plug rather than prolong the suffering.

    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    #1 baby boys name in London is Muhammad.... Europe is no longer Europe.

    [–]Cantloginhere 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    This is already a law in the UK, I don't know whether to laugh or cry: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-37405732

    Martha Jephcott, who has trained Nottinghamshire police officers on how to deal with misogyny as a hate crime, said: "Recognising misogyny as a hate crime is important because it acknowledges the world in which women live and the everyday nature of these sorts of incidents."

    Fifteen police forces will attend a conference in Nottingham on Wednesday, looking at the possibility of adopting similar schemes, which they hope will increase the reporting of harassment.

    Ms Jephcott said: "I want forces across the country to adopt this. I think it's a matter of equality.

    [–]Cantloginhere 6 points7 points  (5 children)

    This is my local rag: http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/15142043.Misogyny_now_a_hate_crime_in_North_Yorkshire/?ref=rss


    MISOGYNY will now be considered a hate crime by North Yorkshire Police.

    In July last year, Nottinghamshire Police became the first force to classify unwanted sexual or verbal advances towards women, including catcalling and wolf whistling, as hate crimes, in a move to tackle sexist abuse.

    The crime will be defined as any criminal offence perceived by a female victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice based on her gender.

    HER. The other day a drunk guy followed a woman down the street, when she ignored him he put his hand on her shoulder (not a good idea), so she called the police. He got 3 years.

    [–]belfastbiker 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    3 years for putting his hand on her shoulder, can you cite source?

    [–]CrazedHyperion 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    That qualifies as assault -two, but coupled with other things, and a white knight prosecutor, yes, I can see three years.

    [–]belfastbiker 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Yeah, I'm asking for the source, but thank you.

    [–]McVaghunter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Do you even know how old is that little shit's wife? 64 fucking years old! Just imagine yourself stuck with that super dry jerky vagina, just imagine how that hole looksdontgoogd64yovagina ! He's watching helplessly as his life slips away, he's mad an has presidential powers. In his mind, if he can't get fresh pussy then no one else should.

    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    This is hilarious because soon the muslims will take over France anyway.

    [–]Project_Thor 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    My Breathing offends the feminazis nowadays.

    [–]jtzabor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Its that shit your penis is spitting out that offends them!

    [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (5 children)

    More or less they want grounds to deport illegals when they stalk women.

    Daily mail. Top kek

    [–]Far_From_The_Fame 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Yeah, but I think they usually skip asking for her number.

    [–]2awalt_cupcake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    exactly I think it's a double-edge strategy. it looks like a cause to deport illegals while also cucking masculinity. it makes sense to import immagrants, allow them to run rampant, and then remove rights from everyone because one group was acting up.

    [–]SilverGryphon 25 points26 points  (2 children)

    I'm fine with these laws if it means deporting illegals. We have far to many of them stinking up Europe.

    [–]Rapante 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Will you still be fine with it when the law is used against you because some woman thinks you're not attractive enough?

    [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It won't, sadly. That's one thing that will never happen, because they risk death or torture when they go home.

    [–]bountyhunterdjango 30 points31 points  (1 child)

    "could mean outlawing wolf whistles", classic daily mail spin, shit paper with zero credibility. Calm down, it's anti-harassment, neither wolf whistling nor asking for numbers will become 'illegal'.

    [–]beginner_ 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    He is just jealous he was only able to snag an old hag.

    [–]anon35201 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    It's outer-limits plot worthy.

    A ruler who is blind puts out the eyes of all his subjects, because he himself cannot see. There is some timeless poetry here.

    Aesop's fable: The Lion in Love: A Lion fell in love with a beautiful maiden and proposed marriage. The maiden’s parents did not know what to say. They did not want to give their daughter to the Lion, yet they did not wish to enrage the King of Beasts. At last the father said: “We feel highly honored by your Majesty’s proposal, but our daughter is a tender young girl, and we fear that in the heat of love you might possibly do her injury. Might I venture to suggest that your Majesty should have your claws removed, and your teeth extracted; then we would consider your proposal again.” The Lion was so much in love that he had his claws trimmed and his big teeth taken out. But, when he again came to the parents of the young girl they simply laughed at him.

    [–]vampform 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    He's just mad that he is married to a SJW twice his age. If he can't have fun none of us can.

    [–]TheLegionnaire00 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    It's ironic that in france a women would have been a better president(for france in general and for men in particular) than this granny fucker midget.

    He is a puppet of the occult. He worked for a Rothschild bank. What did You think he would do?

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

    Fine by me and I hope they do it.

    When I see French women here in The States then my game will work even better. French bitches will be starving for dominance and charisma

    [–]CarnivOre93 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    You sound like you're starving for puasy yo dam seff

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    famished. usually i crave a big dik

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Don't worry, France is dead already because muslims and "refugees"

    [–]peace36 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    “Talking to someone and asking for [a number] will not be considered harassment."

    http://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a12442465/wolf-whistling-illegal-france/

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    [–]wristcontrol 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    ... doesn't he have more important things to do, such as turn the economy around, address racial divides, keep the EU from collapsing, removing red tape from France's infamous bureaucracy, etc?

    [–]Ntghgthdgdcrtdtrk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, it's not going to happen. This is just some virtue signaling from a feminist minister of Macron.

    Both the police AND feminists groups said that it's not possible to enforce such laws. Belgium passed something similar years ago and so far only three complaints have been filed with no follow up.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It's funny because Frenchmen are too cucked to do this shit and Muslims are too alpha to follow the cuck's laws anyway.

    [–]IdolStud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    This is what happens when men FAIL to assert themselves. The general loss of frame of men on a macro-scale in western society, will lead towards a bottomless pit of concessions that will never satisfy the menopausal harpies, and vapid dykey cat-ladies that have waaay too much power in media, academia and politics. They want infinite sacrifice from men, and their eternal humiliation - that's what awaits you for being a spineless beta. If men in general had game, and weren't raised with the equality bullshit by overbearing feminist parents (usually defeated dad), all of this nonsense would stop.

    [–]Fuck_my_Life1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    So I'll have to ask her permission to ask her for her telephone number?

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    The globalists hands down installed that fucker. It's a lot easier to manipulate elections in European countries than it is the US. Le Pen had much more support than the media reported.

    [–]SOFA_KING_FUTURE 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    But. But then who iz going to butter ze baguettte?!

    [–]biggerbetterjobs 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    Harassing and following women around like a creep isn't okay. There's ways to compliment or chat up a woman without harassing them or being a total creep.. In all my time of doing pickup/meeting women, I've never acted like some fucking loser who gropes women or says creepy shit to them in public, nor have I felt any desire or need to in order to build attraction.

    [–]8n0n 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    The difference between being labelled a creep or otherwise is based purely on your SMV.

    I'd love to read a field report of someone that would make a good example of what is a TRP man demonstrating how much they could get away with on the creep-o-meter (stalking and obsessive behaviors).

    I know that there are some things I wouldn't get away with, my SMV is not that high, but there have been plenty of other things (not relating to sex) I have been getting away with purely by adopting things in the sidebar.

    Tagging /u/redpillschool to see if any of the endorsed posters would be interested in fleshing out my post with something along those lines?

    Read this post at own risk and presume this has been modified by Reddit Inc

    [–]sweetleef 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Harassing and following women around like a creep isn't okay.

    Thanks for telling us that. What would all us morons do if we didn't have enlightened champions to lecture us on the obvious.

    [–]yaardi 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Clickbait title.

    Stop falling for sensationalist bullshit for Christ's sake.

    [–]corsega 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yup. None of the articles mention anything about making asking for numbers illegal.

    You morons will fall for anything that supports your views.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    How quickly the French surrender again...

    [–]chadeusmaximus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Easy way to fix that. Every single man should go on a 10 year strike and not date a single female for that time.

    Never gonna happen of course, but it would be fun to watch.

    [–]Wilreadit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    So much bullshit from a guy who is willing to fuck anyones grandma.

    [–]SocietalEngineering 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Get this black pill political stuff off this sub.

    [–]AllahHatesFags 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    At this point, the inevitable descent into sharia law is starting look merciful for the French. I personally can't wait to purple-haired feminazi hambeasts beaten publically by the virtue police when that happens.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    France new slogan for future generations of men: Je suis pussy

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Just tell them you're muslim and you can get away with anything.

    [–]jroseland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This is a country on it's knees.

    [–]Pastelitomaracucho[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Do any of you live in France? I do.

    Man, my girlfriend/friends will not go out alone a SINGLE day without being catcalled or simply called a slut for ignoring the catcalls.

    Not. a. single. day.

    This is something that struck me, coming from a country I thought progressive, tolerant, multicultural, etc etc etc.

    I don't know how will this be enforced tho. Most women here I know just shrug street harrassment off and go about their day without making a big fuss about it. It also doesn't happen when they are with males.

    As a dude living here, I can confidently say this is not a suppression tool. Sleazy fuckers need to be stopped somehow.

    [–]Redasshole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I've been living in Paris all my life.

    10 years ago, you would have been able to witness intergenders interactions in every day life settings. Now men are too afraid. I was talking to a friend of mine whom I did street pick up with 10 years ago and he told me he stopped hitting on girls on the streets because 9 times out of ten the girl calls the police.

    You should know that this is nothing new really. There has been campains from the governments taking position to end "harrassment" for a few years now.

    And right now, there is a law being voted to allo all women to use random men's sperm to get pregnant. Which is replacing the male.

    On top of that, add the migrants who doesn't get any prison time or fine for raping French girls.

    I fucking hate what my country became. It took about ten years to go from average to bad.

    [–]redlurker9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    So? Just don't whistle and ask for their facebook instead.

    [–]WoahScienceCool 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    You know what? Good.

    European men are a bunch of sissified faggots who deserve every piece of matriarchal legislation thrown their way. No sympathy here. You think Trump would sign a bill like this into law? Nope, and thats exactly why us "stupid Americans" voted him into office. Thank fucking Christ. Enjoy your terrorists and feminist dictatorships, Eurocucks.

    Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. Hope you all are prepared.

    [–]IdolStud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I live in a northern european country, nobody wolf whistles here, not even when drunk. People are too timid/beta to aggressively open women (not an effective strategy for getting girls anyway). You will not believe it, but most women will probably welcome such behaviour as it would make them feel WANTED (and something to complain about to their gfs lol). Many women have become like beta men (and probably enjoy feeling feminine/vulnerable), and a lot of men have become effete and even effeminate, so women lust and respond well to raw masculinity. I see this in the gym, just by approaching a girl (including the truly cute girls with a plump ass in tights) her face will light in all smiles, and laugh at even my lamest jokey little comment. THIRSTY for masculinity from a red pill man lol.

    [–]crazypants88 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    You implicitly decry a generalisation of Americans but then perpetuate a generalisation of Europeans.

    Europe and Europeans are not a monolith.

    [–]1htbf 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    Can't find a single french source on this.

    [–]Casd12[S] 14 points15 points  (3 children)

    [–]1htbf 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    So a woman at the government, whose job is to look for men/women equality is building a proposal to prevent unwanted harassment.

    There is no mention of Macron wanting to make number closing illegal.

    [–]AnatoleKuragin 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    http://www.la-croix.com/France/Securite/Marlene-Schiappa-sattaque-harcelement-rue-2017-09-20-1200878240

    I speak French, let me translate roughly.

    After a string of harassments in a public street, the Secretary in charge of Equality between Men and Women (the title sounds more official in French) is looking to codify punishments against street harassment like propositions, catcalls, and suggestive gestures.

    Law enforcement does not like it because it's unclear whether the crime would be a violation or complaint (the terms don't translate well). If it's a violation, the cop needs to be at the scene and needs to view the act. If it's a complaint, it becomes he-says-she-says and it goes nowhere.

    Feminists don't like it because it may allow real sexual harassers to get lighter punishments by hiding under this "street harassment" code.

    There are already laws against unwanted public harassment. A slap on the ass can get you up to 5 years in jail. However less than 10% of these situations are pursued. Often the victims do not want to deal with the legal system over a catcall.

    The deputy Secretary says, "sure, it's difficult, but that doesn't mean we should try to fix the problem. Street harassment is a real danger affecting younger and younger women and we need to look out for them.

    [–]McVaghunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    A slap on the ass can get you up to 5 years in jail.

    No no no no just fucking no, a country where judges believe that a hand slapping an ass is equivalent to spending 5 fucking years, aka 1825 fucking days behind bars, almost 10% of a man's life, is not even worth living in. I would just pack my shit and move away to a 3rd world country.

    [–]belfastbiker 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    It's the Daily Fail. Please, ignore it.

    [–]Jack4ss92 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    nothing wrong with the daily mail

    [–]plainposter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    lol, women aren't going to even enforce this though... they're just waiting for a confident guy to pick them up on the street! are cops really going to waste their resources on a guy asking for a girls number? come on.. macron.. you need to get laid

    [–]JFMX1996 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Fuck! I was starting to like the guy for the arrogant, offensive shit he was starting to say to offend people.

    Like the shit about Africans breeding more than they can be feeding. Haha.

    What a bummer. EU is cucked.

    [–]SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    See you guys in France, where I'll be getting numbers and crushing ass.

    [–]victor_knight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I guess the global population growth must be really out of control for the powers that be to have to stoop to this level at undermining relationships between men and women.

    [–]miniwark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It's just a click bait title from the Daily Mail. According to the French sources:

    • Macron itself did not have say anything yet about this project
    • for now, this is only a project from Marlene Chiapas, a state Secretary, and a few other women deputies (equivalent of representatives in the USA)
    • the project itself is not yet very clear. It's intended to forbid a broad of "street harassment" behaviour: stuff like cat calling, "improper speak" and obscene gestures
    • there is nothing in the project to forbid real number asking, but there is indeed a way to to "ask for number" witch is improper : "t'as pas un 06 ?". This can be translated roughly by "did you have a mobile number ?" People doing it did not expect to get the number, it's more a way to say "your hot!"
    • this is in a reaction of men attitudes in a few poor neighborhood of Paris and suburbs with many frenchmen from arabian or african origin
    • French feminists do not like the project, because it may protect more serious harassment
    • One of the feminist group, who concentrate on recording this sort of street behaviors, even cite the case of an already existing similar Belgian law witch have been proved inefficient (used only 3 time in one year)
    • Police did not like the project because it would be very difficult to track

    In short, it's only an unclear project from the woman rights representative in the government, and it will go nowhere (like other of her recent projects and announcements).

    By the way, there is not really a "macho culture" in France except in poor neighborhood, where young men wander in the streets because they have no jobs (or they do small traffic). In this cases, this is indeed really uncomfortable for the women, and the men do not expect any real results. They are more showing off in front of the other men and did not effectively try to get the women.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Can women "cat call" men still?

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