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Field ReportMy "lesbian" plate (self.TheRedPill)

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One of my newer plates is a married woman with two young daughters. Her husband is a typical Billy Beta. Good job at some office or another, high salary, but completely pussified and a victim of the politically correct, gender equality bullshit narrative. The pillow talk I have with this woman is exceptional, and practically a waterfall of RedPill truths. I am sharing one such conversation with you for your amusement and further increase in awareness of how far women will go.

So we were just done fucking and she is in my bed texting somebody when she lets out this deep sigh. I ask her what's up and she tells me she's texting her husband to see if he can pick up the kids from school. Apparently he can't though and this has her all annoyed. I ask her if she had other plans and she gives me this horny look, telling me that she wanted to go another round. I shrug, give her a sheepish grin and tell her there's always next time.

She gets up and starts to get dressed. I can't resist teasing her a bit and suggest for her to fuck her husband tonight in stead of me. She turns towards me and looks at me with surprise. Not because she's insulted or anything, but because she genuinely thinks I'm crazy. She tells me she hasn't fucked her husband in over a year. Finding this hard to believe, there is still such a thing as duty sex, I ask her how she manages to get away with that.

What she told me blew my mind.

About a year ago she told her husband that she needed time to go “find herself” Being the BP beta he was, of course he approved of and supported this. So while she was abroad fucking her brains out her husband was “holding the front” back at home. Eventually she got tired of it, missed her kids or whatever, and came back home. By then she realized she really didn't want to fuck her husband anymore so she told everybody she discovered that she was actually a lesbian but that she still loved her husband and wanted to be with him. Billy Beta accepted this, told her she was also his best friend and that he would continue to support her in every way. Apparently he was applauded for this by friends and family.

After hearing the story I tell her she sure didn't sound like a lesbian about fifteen minutes ago. She grins and tells me, “well! I'm not REALLY a lesbian!” Then presses her finger against her lips and winks at me. I watch as she finishes getting dressed and leaves. Afterwards I spend at least another half hour in bed, just running through what the fuck she just told me. Took me a bit to process it all.

Gentlemen. This is what husbands are becoming under the politically correct, feminist narrative. Literal ATM's. This is also what women are becoming and they are raising the next generation of girls. I'm not sure if I should be scared or excited.


[–]Magnus_Konrad 389 points390 points  (20 children)

Poor guy. I can relate. Beta or not, no one deserves to go through this.

Reminds me of my marriage prior to separation in some ways. We hadn't had sex for over a year, with her always putting forth excuses to avoid intimacy - even kisses were sent straight to the cheek. After separation/divorce she came at me with "I found myself and I'm a lesbian" which had zero effect on me by then, since throughout the separation she'd revealed how far she was willing to go to get her way, including accusing me sexual deviancy with my children and claiming we had a history of domestic violence throughout our relationship. It's been almost a year and there's still no sign of Lynne, or Chad for that matter, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if my kids started talking about mommy's new yoga daddy one day.

Without knowing details, it sounds like Billy Beta is trying to protect his children from emotional trauma and spare them a series of painful adjustments. If he's also a product of a divorced home, he's likely got those memories motivating him to keep things straight for as long as he can. Hopefully he'll accept that divorce is the only option here and he'll be the one to initiate, making it more likely he'll get primary custody, although it's unlikely he will. It's a terrifying road to go down and it's impossible to understand exactly what makes a man reluctant to accede to that outcome unless you've been there. Financial issues aside, just being away from your children and having their future be so uncertain can unhinge a man - many end up resorting to substance just to cope. Sometimes they get addicted or end up killing themselves.

The law is not a man's side when children are involved, and most lawyers will advise you to suck it up, place your pride aside and use diplomacy rather than storm the castle, if not for you and your wallet's sake, then for the children. Men are double-fucked with divorce because at the end of the day, cuntosaurus rex is the person you're bound to in raising the children with for the rest of their lives, regardless of whether or not you live in the same home. If you piss her off by calling out her bullshit, you risk opening yourself up to retaliation, threats and abuse, and there's always the worry that mom will project her frustrations onto the kids or worse - attempt to turn them against you. On your end, you're condemned to a life of feeling a degree of guilt for choosing such a horrible person to breed with; the person who will be the primary example of womanhood to your children. It's a business relationship you have next to no leverage in, at least initially, especially if you don't have a strong financial base to back you up.

This is why I'd sworn early in my life to never romp with a woman who was married with children. I'd never want to play with someone who was so morally bankrupt that she's willing to devastate the people closest to her, especially her children, in order to fulfill her selfish desires. If anything, you never know what they're capable of if you stop giving them what they want, and given their track record, I'd steer clear.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 47 points48 points  (2 children)

If he's also a product of a divorced home, he's likely got those memories motivating him to keep things straight for as long as he can.

+1. I have a friend who exactly did that. Me myself, I also had my story of "keeping things as long as I could" because of other reasons, but this case you described is legit.

Guys, watch out. Especially if your parents divorced

[–]chinese-bible 8 points9 points  (1 child)

It depends largely. My parents divorced when I was 4. My reaction: Where's my fruit loops and cartoons? IE I didn't give a shit.

Now yes, arguably a functional relationship at home is probably better than divorced parents, but divorced parents are better than sexless dead-bedroom "lesbian" parents who hate each other and stay together "for the kids."

Also, I had several friends in college who had their parents divorce. They had stayed together for years until the kids were all out of the nest, and THEN divorced.

Result?

Defcon 5. These college-aged kids' worlds came crashing down around them. They were devastated. The "perfect" family that was all they had ever known just evaporated. Now what? Were they going to have 2 Thanksgivings? Are their parents going to be okay? Omg omg omg!!!

Moral of the story: Divorce early. Never "stay together" for the kids. For your sake + the kids.

[–]Gozsayin 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Great post I agree. As a product of a divorce I can tell you the effects are devastating even if it was a civil thing (like my parents who are still on great terms). That said it comes a time where a man needs to grow some balls in put his wife in a wife's place.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That said it comes a time where a man needs to grow some balls in put his wife in a wife's place. That time is always a lot sooner than men think.

[–]Blackhawk2479 16 points17 points  (3 children)

there's always the worry that mom will project her frustrations onto the kids or worse - attempt to turn them against you.

I’ve seen this play out first-hand. Cuntasaurus Rex spends all the maintenance/child support money on herself whilst simultaneously and constantly telling the kids what a shitbag their dad is (she left him, and kicked him out of the marital house when he’d done nothing wrong) and making it damn near impossible for him to see them.

It’s pretty fucking devastating seeing innocent kids wrongly turned against their own father by some crazy, bitter, twisted cunt. But that said, whilst I agree with the notion that OP should not stick his dick in crazy, I don’t agree with the moralising going on in here. This is solely on her, not OP.

Edit: fixed misuse of “alimony”.

[–]Magnus_Konrad 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What you described is literally how my situation played out. It was Hell.

On the other note; a lot of men consider morality inherent to masculinity. Obviously we don't all agree on that, but if morality doesn't matter to the OP or those that share his point of view, why attack the opinion?

People that believe in morality are going to express it when they believe the time is relevant. Expecting a man not to express his beliefs is like expecting a child not to lie.

[–]AshenIntensity 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It's not called alimony, it's called child support. Alimony would be where you give your ex-wife regular payments, so she can continue living with the same lifestyle she did pre-divorce.

It's meant to give women financial support after a divorce, so they can get a job, but it's a shitty system that's abused by women. They aren't obligated to get a job, or earn any money themselves at all, and it usually lasts years, until they eventually marry some other poor guy.

A good example of this, is Brendan Fraser. After he divorced his wife, she asked for child support, and $900,000 a year in alimony. He's been paying it for years, way longer than their marriage lasted, and that amount was calculated from his earnings in the peak of his career.

He's an actor who made most of his money when he was young, attractive, and popular, and he made most of it from just a few popular movies at the time. He told the judge he couldn't afford to pay $900,000 a year, and he tried to get his alimony adjusted for lack of work, but it was denied, AND THEN his wife accused him of hiding financial assets.

Here's a clip of him from a recent interview, it's sad to see him now, he looks completely broken.

[–]Blackhawk2479 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that sucks. The system is fucked, don’t get married.

I’ll fix my post, thanks.

[–]AboomalavaU 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"I'd never want to play with someone who was so morally bankrupt that she's willing to devastate the people closest to her, especially her children, in order to fulfill her selfish desires."

Amen brother. Unfortunately, i have been through that twice.

[–]ThePwnter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Without knowing details, it sounds like Billy Beta is trying to protect his children from emotional trauma and spare them a series of painful adjustments. If he's also a product of a divorced home, he's likely got those memories motivating him to keep things straight for as long as he can. Hopefully he'll accept that divorce is the only option here and he'll be the one to initiate, making it more likely he'll get primary custody, although it's unlikely he will. It's a terrifying road to go down and it's impossible to understand exactly what makes a man reluctant to accede to that outcome unless you've been there. Financial issues aside, just being away from your children and having their future be so uncertain can unhinge a man - many end up resorting to substance just to cope. Sometimes they get addicted or end up killing themselves.

This one of the most powerful insights that i think very few here realize, but this is in fact a very real problem for men. Even awakened men. A lot of times they feel that if they don't sacrifice themselves for the protection and well-being of their kids, that they will be sacrificing their kids well-being for the sake of their own selfish wants, and thus turning them into what they hate most about the woman in their relationship. They are caught in this horrible cycle of despair. One where they either sacrifice themselves (and their sanity), or sacrifice their kids (unacceptable), so they spiral into ever growing depression until they snap, IF they are not of strong will that can shut off their feelings, at least temporarily.

This is why I'd sworn early in my life to never romp with a woman who was married with children. I'd never want to play with someone who was so morally bankrupt that she's willing to devastate the people closest to her, especially her children, in order to fulfill her selfish desires. If anything, you never know what they're capable of if you stop giving them what they want, and given their track record, I'd steer clear.

This is some of the best damn advice I've ever seen here. Take heed gentlemen, take heed.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (2 children)

i give props to the guy, i mean... as someone who has gone through a broken home and SEEN IT ALL...

it really has had an effect on me. there is and never has been that " togetherness" in my family and i really miss/needed it.

sometimes I am even jealous of people who have had that. i guess every family has its problems... mine just happened to be a trainwreck we talk about openly ( well my sister and I do). It sucks balls but what can you do?

[–]Magnus_Konrad 0 points1 point  (1 child)

We all have to play the hand we're dealt. Do the best you can with it.

[–]Random_throwaway_000 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I'd never want to play with someone who was so morally bankrupt that she's willing to devastate the people closest to her, especially her children, in order to fulfill her selfish desires.

Women will do anything for the right man. AWALT

[–]Magnus_Konrad 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Themselves, good sir. Women will do anything for themselves.

[–]VickVaseline 135 points136 points  (3 children)

Before I discovered TRP, I would have said you were making this up.

[–]1dongpal 104 points105 points  (2 children)

thats what all the rappers and people who suddenly got involved with a lots of women feel too. in the begining you felt for all that shit, I mean why not, you dont see the truth before you get involved with a lot of women. then you see the truth more and more.

my favorite scene for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AHH0bdNKyM

it is impossible to respect woman 100% after you know how they tick

[–]themightycrunch 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Jesus Christ that video is amazing

[–]unn4med 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Took the words right out of my mouth. Been thinking that too recently, how most rappers seem disrespectful to women (maybe a bit) but they sure know the truth about them.

[–]LiteraIIyJesus 71 points72 points  (3 children)

Lol all of these moral beacons are missing the point. Sure, it's not a shining example of humanity to bang a married woman, but sexuality is amoral. The point we should all be making to you, OP, is that this kind of shit is potentially hazardous.

  • She is fucking crazy.
  • She already lies to everybody in her life.
  • She literally left her fucking children to go back to the CC.
  • BP betas become bloodthirsty savages looking for revenge for corrupting their unicorns.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, OP. Watch out.

[–]celtiberian666 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She is fucking crazy.

THIS!

This story is not just a red flag. Is a fucking blood moon coming to crash OP's world like a meteor. Let that plate go.

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    [–]2wiseclockcounter 21 points22 points  (0 children)

    You must be new here to have not heard it before, the idea is pretty core to RP beliefs. Except he didn't phrase it correctly. It's usually "sexual strategy is amoral." Which is very different from saying "sexuality is amoral."

    I believe it absolutely is moral.

    Case in point: Rape wouldn't be considered such a vile act if we didn't intuitively understand sexuality to be a deeply moral issue.

    The statement "sexual strategy is amoral" doesn't mean one's strategy has zero moral consequences. It's only saying that the most effective route to getting sex is not necessarily the most virtuous. If your primary goal is sex, you have to think pragmatically, not morally. I think the main reason people hammer the idea around here is that it's a necessary step in shaking newcomers out of their old paradigm.

    That said, I think there have indeed been some "impressionable minds", or maybe opportunistic nihilists is more accurate, who have fully and consciously perverted it into the rephrased "sexuality is amoral" lest they find it too difficult to look at themselves in the mirror. I've definitely grown into a more c'est la vie attitude towards these kinds of guys... if they want to behave that way, I can't stop them (and after reading enough stories about women like in the OP, a part of me can't really blame them).

    But what pisses me off is people who take it down a social constructivist route like a damn SJW rationalizing their behavior as though there is no right or wrong, everything subjective, everything is endlessly relative. That's cowardly bullshit. Everyone's welcome to be a piece of shit if they'd like, but at least own it.

    Men split first into two categories, those who are aware of the collapse of our civilization and those who are oblivious to it, and then into four: the oblivious who contribute to the collapse, the oblivious who abstain, the aware who contribute to the collapse, and the aware who abstain.

    A lot of RPers have said "enjoy the decline." Well what happens after the decline? You get to die off and forget about it? Eventually the task to rebuild must fall on the shoulders of some men. And if something isn't done by men right now, those some men won't even be born. Try telling the father of one of the thousands of girls raped and beaten by gangs of Pakistani shit stains in the UK to "enjoy the decline." Enjoy watching everything you've inherited and breathed life into be torn to shit and spat on by ungrateful degenerates, or worse yet add to it?! What kind of a masochistic bitch mindset is this? Is this really what has become of the Western man? For all the talk of beta's cucking to gynocentrism, it sure is something seeing the supposed alphas here scoff at the "moralizing simps" among us when they are just as guilty of molding their self-image and morals in the service of women's solipsistic self-interest.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 527 points528 points  (52 children)

    FYI this is how you end up getting shot walking to your car. Getting involved with stupid bullshit like this.

    Not trying to moralize, but this is a crazy person. Very likely cluster-b and you're probably going to get triangulated for her amusement.

    [–]glenthedog 151 points152 points  (0 children)

    Exactly! I couldn't even enjoy having sex with a woman like this. Plus I'd be terrified.

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      [–]anonlymouse 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      Nah, this is about giving a perspective from the other side. Most of us have seen something like this from the side of the friends who applauded Billy Beta's response.

      [–]Jyontaitaa 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      Agreed. On the other side of it the op seems to get as much pleasure out of kicking around a beta as he does banging the hoe.

      At the end of the day that beta is just trying to be a good father. It’s sad that he has compromise his own happiness to achieve it.

      [–]hammerhearth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      OP is a Chad.

      But OP is a Chad in the wrong situation.

      [–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (20 children)

      Yeah, I get your point.

      This is actually the first married plate on my roster and I'm figuring it out as I go. Definitely will be careful with her though.

      Thing is she seemed perfectly normal at the start of it all, as far as women go.

      [–]cBIGONE 102 points103 points  (2 children)

      "Seemed normal". She's just a real good liar

      [–]1empatheticapathetic 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      She's just a woman. This story isn't new.

      [–]throwbp 21 points22 points  (1 child)

      You said this isn't her first time cheating so there is a good chance she is very in tune with what your ego needs and giving you just that. Keep in mind she is doing it for herself and just using you as a means to an end. For all you know she's looking into divorce and you're next on her list.

      The moment you want to stop shit will hit the fan and you'll be front and center. Don't know if you have an easy out right now but if you see one, like her suggesting you two stop, take it.

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Meh, just act beta. She'll be gone within the hour.

      [–]whimsyNena 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      If you're not going to stop seeing her just make sure you wear a condom every single time. You're probably not the only guy she's fucking and you should never rely on a crazy person to bring protection. Needles are cheap.

      [–]Gilgs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Most of them seems "normal" at first, chicks are crazy. But you have to adapt to this fucked world we live in.. EDIT: clarity

      [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 14 points15 points  (6 children)

      No need to justify your choice. Fucking another man's woman is a great feeling.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

      Right? I was pretty surprised by the moral backlash I got on this. Not expecting it on the Redpill given its purpose but oh well.

      [–]TissueBabies 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      I can understand the moral backlash, of course it's not supposed to exist here, but TRP has grown away from it's roots a bit. Personally I've been attracted to married women from an early age. Something about "she's already got a man but she still wants me instead." Is that terrible logic that ignores the psychology of the situation. Yes. Does it mean I have some issues that may need addressing? Probably. Does that make it any less exciting? Nope. Probably more so actually, because her putting herself in that situation means that I can IDGAF when SHTF. And it will.

      [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      80/20 applies here as well.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Bro-knighting and whiteknighting are deeply rooted in many here. Just take it as a sign of them unable to unplug all the way.

      The morals society drills in to keep you from doing whatever the fuck you want to do run deep.

      Keep fucking the crazies and the taken.

      [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Few hot girls, legions of men. Simple math

      Most women 7+ and beyond college age are taken or are in transition to someone else. Small breaks if ever in between, and only a small circle is in close proximity and contact with her during this gap. To get most attractive women, you must take them from someone else. The SMP is not fair. Nature 'designed' it that way.

      [–]Skyhawk_And_Skyhead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Not so much an inability but a lack of time. People come here to start the process of unplugging. Once unplugged the only reason to stay is to teach the green peas or to get refreshed.

      [–]1029341238 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      'seemed normal': famous last words. I appreciate your honesty here. Good luck.

      [–]beta_no_mo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      The only way to be careful is to just let her go.

      Trying to control this is an illusion.

      [–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Finally someone that sees the pragmatic side of why certain social mores exist instead of letting their dick/ego (same thing really) do all their thinking.

      [–]demshty 6 points7 points  (7 children)

      FYI this is how you end up getting shot walking to your car.

      yeah not everyone lives in america, thank god.

      [–]crawtators 11 points12 points  (6 children)

      Crazy has no nationality...shanked, poisoned, piano wire...you find out your "lesbian" wife has been taking dick on the side the last few years and lack of easy access to a gun gonna somehow calm you down?

      [–]demshty 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      It's going to give you time to think rationally at the very least, maybe I shouldn't pull out my handgun from under my bed on impulse and shoot this guy and go to jail for the rest of my life. God you americucks are so fucking stupid.

      [–]crawtators 8 points9 points  (4 children)

      Takes an equal amount of impulse not to stab someone. Contrary to popular belief...the vast majority of americans cant hit a target from greater than 3 meters away. A 10ft seperation isnt going to help you against the guy whose lesbian wife has been getting pounded by your pole. This cuck has been rationalizing a lot of emotional shit for years...and he just found out it was all a lie and hes been wasting his life and money on this? I wouldnt want to be on the same continent as this guy if i was OP. I dont care about moral of banging married chicks...this girl is gonna get dicked by somene...you gotta weigh risk vs reward and make your own decisions. Risk to OP is same whether guns are readily available or not.

      [–]Incognito_famous 96 points97 points  (10 children)

      Don't stick your dick in crazy.

      [–]gixxerthouguy 66 points67 points  (3 children)

      That could be a lonely dick!

      [–]cBIGONE 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Ed Sheerans next hot song "lonely dick"

      [–]2Overkillengine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Meh, just calls for risk/reward calibration. If a particular woman has way more risk factors than she is worth, just move on to another.

      [–]IncognitoMaster91 8 points9 points  (5 children)

      But crazy is fun! Lol (joking here, sort of.)

      [–]Incognito_famous 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      The more you think about it, it would be fun to poke crazy. Maybe once, just to see.

      [–]truecrisis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Been there, done that, stay far away.

      [–]2comment 84 points85 points  (2 children)

      About a year ago she told her husband that she needed time to go “find herself”

      This phrase was beyond cliche already in the 90s... like SJWs say, "it's 2018, people". I really don't know how this phrase doesn't trigger every guy who hears it into shoving them and their shit out the door. "Use google maps and look for the closest bar or strip joint. I have a feeling your inner self resides there, go join it."

      [–]TheDevilsAdvokaat[🍰] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

      It means "I want to try fucking other people"

      [–]whimsyNena 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Finding yourself is what you do before kids. You know, that period where you're single and happy about it and exploring the world? You don't find yourself by fucking around with someone when you're married to someone else.

      [–]bluedragon239 29 points30 points  (18 children)

      Idk about you but I set strict rules about married women.

      [–]Im_Not_Kevin 72 points73 points  (9 children)

      I must have missed it in the sidebar but for RedPill, a sub that prides itself on self improvement, picking up women, and healthy smart decision making; why is fucking Married Women praised and accepted?

      I am all for picking up women, and if she is getting a divorce it's fair game. But I couldn't justify helping ruin a Family, there are kids in that house, as well as a potentially crazy and very angry Husband (along with a clearly unstable Woman who is sleeping around) who will take his anger out on ME not his (presumably) slut of a wife.

      [–]mcjustmatt 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      This isn't a praise post, it's a warning post.

      [–]JJ3314 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      Completely agree. I am not interested in victimizing any potential children, or even the husband. I don’t care if he’s a beta. Additionally I don’t want to let these women have their cake and eat it too. They get the beta bucks, while they get to fuck their alpha on the side. No thanks.

      I understand the logic that “well if not me, it will be someone else.” I say apply that logic to single women. Ex carousel riders should either behave themselves for their spouses or remain lifelong incels. Married women are on average less attractive than their younger, single couterparts, so avoiding them shouldn’t be that hard. Plenty of fish.

      [–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      Same reason I'd sell a homeless alcoholic booze. I want the money and he'd go to the next store if he didn't buy it from me

      [–]1ozaku7 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

      You are not ruining a family, she is. It's either your dick or someone elses dick. Because the point is that she chose someone else over her husband, and that someone else can be anyone. Understood?

      [–]Im_Not_Kevin 13 points14 points  (2 children)

      I don't. It takes two to cheat, and she made vows to not do so. Enabling that behavior with the mentality of 'well it'd just be someone else' isn't solving any problems other then getting your own dick wet. A divorce, which is likely to happen after infidelity, quite literally ruins a family.

      Shifting blame away from yourself (the cheatee) is blue pill logic, a Man owns up to his mistakes and actions.

      [–]1ozaku7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Since when did TRP turn into a social justice warrior castle?

      This is bluepill logic. You say that the cheatee is the family ruiner, but it actually is already ruined. If she won't fuck you, she will fuck someone else, because she wants someone other than her husband to dick her. It's as easy as that.

      [–]Im_Not_Kevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I was raised by my old man to own up to my actions and mistakes. I think that fucking married women who aren't in the process of leaving their husbands would be a mistake, and not wise for making myself a better man.

      You are 100% correct that if it wasn't one guy, she'd just fuck another. But my take away is that the gain of easy pussy doesn't outweigh the moral issues I'd have enabling such infidelity, for me personally.

      For some men, I guess you from your replies, don't see any reason to blame themselves; after all she's the woman who is in a marriage it's her fault for putting herself out there and slutting it up while the husband is at work. Couldn't do it myself, but to each their own.

      [–]TheRealJesusChristus 100 points101 points  (13 children)

      What the fuck, this is bad even for Redpilled people. This woman is not only like AWALT, she is psychopathic pr some shit like this.

      I dont know if I wouldnt feel bad for the husband and not fuck her anymore (knowing she would find another man to fullfill her needs for a real man).

      [–]2comment 44 points45 points  (0 children)

      It's par for the course. A mentor of mine and I travelled around (europe) when I was young and learning everything, he had a woman or two in every town. One day, on way to vacation he got in a head on collision and was permanently crippled in the sense he could still walk and all that but at no speed, etc. His gf was killed in the crash.

      The two married chicks he was fucking in his hometown, for the longest time already -- but it wouldn't surprise me if that area was rife with his bastards running around -- no longer had to make excuses to their husbands for their absenses. He registered at some organization for the disabled and they subsequently volunteered there to take care of him, each 2-3x a week, and were getting paid for it (supply/gas/needs reimbursement) by the organization and social accolades for their selfless charity work from their friends and family. He even met their husbands under that pretense and took them out to dinner and whatever, the wives smiling while their men were none the wiser.

      One husband had a debilitating stroke 5 years later and his wife permanently dumped him some months later on her kids because it cut into her quality time. She still milked most of the monthly disability money and benefits from that too.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      She’s like all women to me.

      [–]pookie513 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Psychopathy infers the ability to moralize in the 1st place. While I do agree to the possibility of cluster-b, the hamster has no bounds. It's righteous in it's necessity.

      [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

      The pillow talk I have with this woman is exceptional, and practically a waterfall of RedPill truths.

      This is the norm when women are attracted to a man they feel is superior and non judgemental and non needy

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I have noticed this in the last few years internalizing Redpill principles. The less fucks I gave about their behavior, the easier it became for them to relate to me...which in turn gave me all kinds of insights supporting Redpill theory.

      It's the primary reason I've been lurking and internalizing for so long, there was and continues to be a steady feedback loop between theory and practise.

      I have days worth of warning stories by now. But judging from the backlash I got maybe people aren't ready yet.

      I think one guy actually wanted to stone me, old Testament style. But that's not my kink.

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      [–]SocialCupcake 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      I've had this. She didn't stalk you, leave notes on your car or Photoshop pictures of you two together? This chick seems tame. Lol.

      I'm guessing she's 28-35 as that seems the peak of make a baby a any cost mindset.

      [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Dated a girl long ago. I dumped her and she proceeded to date a girl and told everyone I made her gay.

      Two months in, her "girlfriend" got drunk and cheated on her... with a man.

      They broke up and my ex came crawling back. When we broke up for the second time, I gamed the ex of my ex as "payback." This "lesbian" (the ex gf of my ex) decided the perfect way to get back at our mutual ex was to fuck.

      Moral of the story? Any lesbian is straight for the right man. Lesbianism is normally a smoke screen to deflect betas.

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      [–]DonWayneTonight 92 points93 points  (0 children)

      Its a place where you take money from your account. The things on the wall in a street.

      [–]mc070812 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      Lol. Automated teller machine.

      [–]Magnus_Konrad 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      He literally means automatic teller machine.

      [–]2comment 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      A literal ATM. A money dispenser they can kick and then gtfo to do their thing.

      [–]AllMyOwnStunts 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      Ass to Mouth

      Finding a plate like that is a real gem.

      [–]Blackhawk2479 5 points6 points  (4 children)

      Cash machine, in case you’re British.

      [–]Ch1pp 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Hole in the wall, in case you're British and old.

      [–]wokedaoist 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      On TRP, I'm sure that could be interpreted a different way.

      [–]RedPillCoach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      You are thinking of TRP-Alt.

      [–]unplug9000 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Batshit crazy, but I have to give credit to her solution. Her hubby is happy, his family and friends think he's a saint, and she is probably regarded as some courageous angel who finally came out. Such a beautiful and progressive couple by PC standards. Poor kids :(

      [–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      I've fucked enough lesbians to be skeptical of their existence at all.

      [–]leonxtravis 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Even “butch” ones?

      I know lipstick lesbians tend to be more sexually fluid but you never really hear anecdotes of the “masculine” types.

      [–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I know a couple. I guess I wasn't interested enough to try and find out. They do seem to respond to some of the same cues, though. AWALT, even ALALT.

      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      She’s a fucking psycho, you tool. This is not an example of cultural resolution, it’s an example of a psychopathic bitch abusing her husband and children

      [–]acekilo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Yea this is some murder stuff. Be careful. I would stop messing with that woman. You both can end up dead!!! Women are scandalous man. If you trust them, may God bless your soul!!!

      [–]askmrcia 5 points6 points  (6 children)

      My only issue with this post is that you're taking her words seriously. She SAID she hasn't had sex with her husband in a year. She SAID her husband is a beta and all of that.

      I thought one of the main rules is to not take what women say seriously. She is a cheating lying whore. You really think she is going to cheat on her husband and not mention any of her flaws?

      No of course she's going to blame the husband. For all you know, the husband could be a very good dude who is occupied going to work at his high earning job and taking care of the kids to pay attention to this slut. They could have had sex a week ago and her tingles just wants someone else.

      How many people on here was married and got cheated on and the women blamed them?

      Watch their actions, not their words. And this lady's actions is that she's a cheating whore.

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      My only issue with this post is that you're taking her words seriously.

      This is what came to mind. She is saving her ego and OPs. If she said she was still fucking both of them, she would have to admit how much of a whore she is internally and face someone else’s judgement.

      Sounds like some form of ASD.

      [–]SilentAlpha 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      For all he knows her ‘Beta husband ‘ could be banging interns or have his own plates. We tend to think she is telling the full truth by painting a picture of a supplicating Beta. Truth is hubby may well know everything and doesn’t care because he gets fabulous pussy himself on the side.

      [–]askmrcia 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      I agree. His whole field report is based on what she said. Foolish

      [–]SilentAlpha 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      For a guy to have a high salary....be seemingly relaxed about her finding herself and to have snagged her in the first place means he’s probably tired of her and is out having fun himself. He doesn’t care if she sleeps around because he already does. Remember what Billy Bob said about Angelina....

      [–]southpawshuffle 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      What did he say about Angelina?

      [–]SilentAlpha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That it was like having sex with the couch after a while.

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      [–]reckful994 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's the equivalent of the Church preaching messages of peace while going on the crusades.

      You can justify it... with extensive rationalization.

      [–]Bing_Bang_Bam 11 points12 points  (6 children)

      You should tell her husband what a slimy scumbag whore she is and help him actually be able to keep his house and his kids and make HER pay child support and alimony.

      [–]1Sir_Distic 15 points16 points  (4 children)

      The husband would blame OP and forgive his wife for being taken advantage of. He might cause trouble in some way, business, legal, whatever. There's literally no advantage to OP to talking to the husband.

      On top of that it's not OP's relationship to talk to him about. What they do is their business. OP is just enjoying his time with her.

      [–]1029341238 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      She is sick. This makes me sick.

      [–]danoranika 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      There seems to be a divide between the amoral red pill dudes and the guys trying to use red pill knowledge for the greater good. Unfortunately, the guys that have no problem fucking some chump's wife have a better understanding of the downward trajectory of society and are better equipped to exploit it.

      [–]the_mountains1985 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I would run away from that as fast as possible.

      [–]Tenth_10 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Plot twist, she doesn't know but the husband found out a sweet colleague at work and discovered, two years before, that he's actually gay.

      Damn, Hollywood shoud hire me. :)

      [–]spoulson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Sounds like a shitty mother to just give her kids up to "go find herself", then change her mind and come back into their lives.

      [–]throw31337 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Maybe the husband is happy fucking his secretary and just don't want to get divorce raped. I've been in this situation before and I didn't wanted to divorce because of the kids. My parents divorced and I didn't wanted to make my kids feel the way I did (hell, basically). I endured incredibly things for them, but you can only do so much to keep a relationship with a crazy women. Even then it never went as bad, we still had sex once a week.

      [–]BurnDownTheMission68 13 points14 points  (5 children)

      Not sure if it is the “flair” in the writing style or what, but many stories like this sound very made up.

      They read like a scene from a movie.

      Everything is a little too pat. The details too perfect.

      [–]Magnus_Konrad 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      They sound like they are media clichés because they are. The modern woman has been shown this example so many times in their lives within pop-culture, along with "humanized" excuses for this behavior that the impact it has on others has been reduced to dust in the wind. She lacks the strength of character to strike out on her own when she's already decided the relationship is dead and she is perfectly willing to exploit her husband for financial support until it's convenient for her to leave. Meanwhile the shameless cunt will eat her cake and have it too.

      [–]H42 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      The phrase is, "morally bankrupt".

      [–]and_another_dude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah, this one sounds extra bogus.

      [–]selfhelpjourney 15 points16 points  (9 children)

      I think fucking this woman is blue pill behavior. Why? She has all the power and control in the situation. She’s not the only one being plated, I guarantee she’s plating you. By fucking her, you are empowering her AWALT behavior, and perpetuating it, all for a nut. Sure, she’ll get it somewhere else, if not from you, but is it really cool to fuck a married woman? I wouldn’t want to have to look myself in the mirror every day if I was fucking her. Yeah, her husband is obviously blue pill, but he’s probably a decent guy. And the kids involved, that’s just icing on the cake. I’m all about some TRP principles, but I think fucking this woman is pretty weak. True alpha behavior would be to tell her to go back to her husband because she doesn’t deserve to ride my dick. There are too many women out there that aren’t THIS morally bankrupt that you could be plating. All you are doing is stooping to her level.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's not blue pill at all. It's just a bit dangerous.

      [–]FilosMan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I disagree

      He's getting nympho sex at the drop of a phone call.

      What more do you want

      [–]selfhelpjourney 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      A little more substance in my life than getting married nympho sex at the drop of a phone call. If that’s what you’re about, have at it.

      [–]FilosMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Agreed so then it would appear under this observation that you can't have it both ways in this case.

      [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

      I honestly don't see the problem with it. You speak as if I owe these people something.

      Of course I'm not the only guy she's fucking, I would never expect that to be a thing with any woman. But I don't owe her pussy of a husband anything. Why would I deny myself a good fuck?

      True alpa behavior is to deny sex over some ill conceived moral notions? Fuck that man. Great way to cuck yourself.

      [–]selfhelpjourney 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      I don’t think you owe them anything, but I do think you owe yourself more. I can’t speak for you, but if it were me, I would find a woman with far less bullshit surrounding her, that would be just as good of a fuck. She’s definitely not a quality plate. Ill conceived morality? I don’t think so, just good common sense. I think it’s more alpha to realize you deserve better than this type of woman, no matter how hot, or how good she is in bed. I would feel like a cuck for fucking her, because I’d be lowering my standards just for a piece of ass. Compromising my belief system just to get laid is the most cuck thing I could ever do, but those are MY beliefs. If your standards are already that low, then by all means.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      Your belief system is holding you back buddy. Keep following those imaginary rules you set for yourself and you'll never fuck above average pussy.

      But at least you have standards man.

      [–]iLLprincipLeS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Nietzsche called it slave morality. These cuckolds are simply projecting themselves in the role of the beta husband.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      u/rian_stone merps should definitely read this

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Cross post it, spell out the lesson for the noobs

      [–]silver-in-a-cloud 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      OP ... how can you find it enjoyable to spend time with such scum ?? I understand probably some good/great sex ... but man ..don't you feel annoyed to be in the presence of such a low life/low moral standard person ??

      I mean i probably wouldn't be able to maintain an erection with this plate ...knowing all the things you know about her ...

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Trust me buddy...She'd get you ready.

      [–]0kool74 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Gentlemen. This is what husbands are becoming under the politically correct, feminist narrative

      And yet day in and day out there are still a plethora of dumb stupid fuckers out there who get married. I have a hard time understanding that level of FAIL!

      [–]MAGA_God-Emperor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      The men are not raising the girls. The woman will always raise the children unless you are a firm presence. They have bonded with her wholly for their entire childhood(unless she neglected them, a whole other mess). Boys in their teen years will seek the man's guidance in becoming a man. While girls are asking for real life advice from dad their social interaction knowledge comes from mom.

      Society is feminine due to shitty single moms raising beta cucks and shitty daughters who then perpetuate the shitty woman problem. A single generation is all it takes to stop the cycle. Choose wisely whom you give your seed to. A plate is a terrible choice as she has proven by simply accepting a plate role that she will be a poor mother, certainly not a great one.

      [–]SteroidsFreak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      To be frank, if theres children involved and the cunts not divorced, i wouldn't enjoy stickin my dick in it. If i was in a situation like this and was Beta Billy, Id grow a pair of balls, kick her out and prolly beat the shit outta you. Then re-evaluate mylife, learn about motherfuckin redpill and fuck women.

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      [–]TrendingBargains 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Real shit. Pure fucked up logic as well such as "If I don't someone else will". Well guess what?

      If you don't do everything someone else will. Why not go to murder some kids in Syria, because if you don't ISIS will anyway.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Why not man? She's her own person and she's down to bang. If I don't benefit somebody else will.

      [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      Exactly. Fuck these other neckbeards with their moral bullshit. Hoes gonna hoe & Modern-day marriage don't mean shit. I'd fuck that bitch too.

      [–]Luis_McLovin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Anger phase; this will return you to it.

      [–]victor_knight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      And then there's always this...

      [–]Spacey_Lacy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Wtaf?? WHat a fucking bitch!!

      [–]the-peoplesbadger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      There’s plenty of great single women out there. Shame on you. Karma will come back around someday.

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      [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

      It's a good thing those works of fiction mean shit today.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Props to you, I don't think I'd be able to contain myself after she would tell me that story lol

      [–]Erfbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That is actually hilarious. I was feeling down because I still have a long way to go, but that made me feel a whole lot better about myself in comparison.

      [–]the_mountains1985 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      You think he's really gone a year or just keeping his plates on the side as well?

      [–]ExpertBirdLawLawyer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      So legitimate question, not that I’ve experienced this before, but what if a wife wants to “find herself” but as a practicing RP member this still manages to come up, how do you handle the situation?

      Obviously if it occurs there are other issues at hand, but I’m curious how it should be handled.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Tell her to go ahead & find herself, but you won't be here when she gets back.

      [–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      The relationship is likely over at that point. If you accept it, she can't respect you. If you deny it she'll resent you (possibly do it secretly). If you tell her to fuck off, it's over. If you say "finally" and start fucking other women it's over.

      When you tell her to fuck off, she might beg you to take her back. However if you do, you're back to square 1. Once a woman seriously suggests this, things have gone pretty far in the wrong direction. Would running dread work? Maybe. Unlikely.

      [–]brownhercules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This doesn't surprise me at all. One of the married women I was fucking told me how she hasn't had sex with her husband in 6 months. They've been married for 3 years now, but this bitch still fucks around on Tinder. Apparently she doesn't find her husband physically attractive anymore. Husband is a typical Billy beta, out of shape and naïve. Asked her why she doesn't divorce him and move on (no kids), she said she doesn't want her family's reputation to be ruined. That's India for you, folks.

      [–]Mescalean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Why the fuck did i read this before dinner. Billy betta made my fucking stomach churn dude.

      [–]melungeonmuscle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Agree with the other comment saying it's stupid on your part to fuck with a married woman. He might be beta but as we know from the news beta guys go crazy and shoot people all the time.

      [–]Senor_Martillo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Let's find that dude and give him an intervention.

      Of course that would break one of your plates, sooo...let us know when you're done with the two timing whore.

      Fuck man what a bummer.

      [–]WegGooi17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      There is the prophecy of the cum and joke mines on Mars. We man are doomed, unless...

      [–]Alpha_Jedi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Major truth bombs confirmed in the field. That's the crazy part about the Red Pill, once you see it, you can never unsee it and you see the truths coming to light all the time. I once had a girl give me the "I'm a lesbian" line: https://alphajedi.com/2017/08/17/the-lesbian/

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This thread is mostly reportable concern trolling.

      This has me thinking....there are cucks, and then there are cucks. It's one thing to want to watch your wife get railed out by a stud. It's another thing to understand that occasionally, she gets railed out by a stud and it's really not your business. I'm guessing most of the cucks in the first category have been driven there by desperation to hold onto their wives. Better to just understand, women have needs that Betas can't fulfill.

      [–]AllahHatesFags 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I could not imagine being so cucked as her husband; that mindset is literally foreign and unthinkable for me. Something is seriously wrong with these men, I don't know if it's BPA or phytoestrogens but something is seriously wrong with that THOT's husband.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Dude I know it's a blast to fuck psychos. I still remember the dual feelings of a rock hard erection and sheer terror that I got when a crazy/hot 18 year old I stopped fucking texted me "It's cute that you think this is over." But you are playing with fire. This shit is kind of scary TBH.

      [–]SirBoss7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      My stepmom is like this. She's raising my little sister to treat men like shit and there's nothing I can do about it.

      [–]Arabian_Wolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I’m wonder how much time will it take for the rest of the world to catch up to such ridiculousness.

      Unless America eat itself out socially.

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