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Field Report"...And Candy Cheats Again" (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior ContributorOmLaLa

TL;DR- A girl who cheated on me cheats with me.


“…And Candy Cheats Again”

“It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving, it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.” ― Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason


I dated this cute chick named “Candy”.

Together almost 6 months just as TRP really started to click. One post had me thoroughly convinced LTRs were stupid. Still believe it to this day. I think it was one of u/Whisper ‘s posts. Love the guy. Smart shit.

Anyways, I dumped her ass soon after reading that. No call, no text. Just stopped seeing her. Hurt like shit but it had to be done. Think she was cheating with some Chad, shit like that. Focused on me, moved on.

So last week me and Fine China [Plate] went to the mall and bump into Candy. She's with some guy. Mike I think. We kept it brief and left.

She called that night. Wanted to talk about ”us”. Wanted “closure”. Says she looks at our pictures and thinks of me. Asks if I do the same. Nope. I’ve moved on. She hung up.

Next day she’s at my door. Won’t leave ‘til I talk to her. But what about Mike? “We’re just talking. We’re not together like that.” Okay, sure. I hear her out.

She goes on about the good times we had. How nice our time was together. She misses the “old” me. The "me" that put up with her shit. That bought her shit because “that’s what guys are supposed to do”. That came by Every. Single. Fucking. Day. for hooours on end just cause that’s what a ”good boyfriend” does.

That guy’s been dead a while now. Tough break.

She had to ask who Fine China is to me. Like a cheap cologne I could smell that jealousy a mile away. “Are you two dating now?” “Is she better than me?” I tell her we're just fucking and we hang out sometimes. And yeah she’s better. She cooks for me. Candy never did that shit.

That bugged her. She threatens to leave. Says she doesn’t have to put up with being insulted. I open the door. Say I don’t do games. You asked for my opinion, I gave it. Now leave or don’t. She leaves.

So that night she’s at my door again. Fine China’s over so we talk outside.

“I don’t know if I can ever see you as a boyfriend again…but I think we should at least be friends.” Okay? Ask her what kind of friends. “Friends that, you know… 'do stuff'.” She means fuck.

She asks if we can “do stuff” tonight. Fine China’s over, another time.

The next night she’s at my door, we “do stuff”, she’s asleep. Her phone goes off like 5 times. It’s Mike. I read a few texts. He’s her boyfriend. Poor guy had no idea.

Best part? She’s got me listed as her best friend “Miranda”. She told him Miranda was going through some shit and needed a “true friend” tonight. I’m Chad now.


LL- Through overcoming a woman’s perceptions of your former self and all her shit tests that’ll accommodated those opinions, you can ideally fit any role in which she deems you suitable. Past is harder to overcome than simply starting fresh with a new woman, but it can be done with time, frame, consistency and most importantly through dominance/control of the situation.


[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 240 points241 points  (50 children)

It's such a satisfying aspect of women's caprice - that is, if she ever cheats on you, you can bet your ass she's going to cheat on the guy she cheated on you with.

It's almost never as personal as the guy on the receiving end tends to think it is. It comes from habitually giving women way too much credit that they never deserved. Most of the time, the infidelity has nothing to do with our guy or his qualities, she's just "being herself"...

[–][deleted] 161 points162 points  (4 children)

good to see you're not holding them back from discovering themselves, that would have made you a misogynist

[–]newls 3 points4 points  (3 children)

As a side note I find it amusing that whenever somebody here regales about how their ex said they wanted to "discover themselves and who they are", nearly all of the new guys reading it say "holy shit that's exactly what my ex said, word for word".

Is this phrase a thing among women? Or are all hamsters just as homogeneous as we say they are?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

women for the most part defend each other even if they dont know each other and if they are obviously in the wrong. they will also do it for the government. this is toxic femininity, the consensus reality, hive mind borg collective

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 166 points167 points  (89 children)

The first time I realized I was being Chad was a transcendent moment for me. One of those "holy fuck, I can see everything clearly" kind of moments.

I wasn't even trying to be Chad, just applying red pill principles. That's the moment you finally see first-hand the machinery underneath the guise we call "romance" or "love" or whatever. The script of male/female human mating behavior, humming away like clockwork. The moment it goes from being theory to your reality.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 42 points43 points  (16 children)

This should be its own post right here, with comments galore. "Tell us about the first time you realized YOU WERE CHAD"...

[–]hirjd 24 points25 points  (1 child)

You can be like chad but you will never actually be THE chad. Ive heard enough blasphemy today. Praise his thunder.

[–]2SidedTriangle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The praise his thunder made me actually lol

[–]ilikeurbootyimnotgay 10 points11 points  (0 children)

When her husband called that I didn't know about. Oops.

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    [–]blacwidonsfw 13 points14 points  (4 children)

    I keep weekends open cause I'd rather go out with my buddies and meet new chicks then re-do old ones.

    [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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      [–]blacwidonsfw 13 points14 points  (2 children)

      I get the biggest and only Shit tests from long term plates for it. "Why don't you ever have time for me on the weekend? why don't you ever take me anywhere on trips like you do with your friends?"

      [–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Classic line from GOODFELLAS: "Saturday night was for wives, but Friday night at the Copa was always for the girlfriends..."

      [–]CacTye 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      When her husband called, knew she had driven six hours to have dinner with me and go to a swank hotel, and believed her when she told him we were just friends.

      [–]neveragoodtime 36 points37 points  (1 child)

      That was a brief moment for me. I was in an LTR, told her I wasn't going to be exclusive any more and she didn't care. I started fucking this other girl who knew I was fucking others and didn't care. The LTR asks if I'm fucking new girl, and like an idiot, I lie "no." Pretty much stopped talking to her after that, but I'm quite confident if I had been a man and said "hell yeah," I would have been on the path to a threesome. Exhibit brutal and consistent honesty with women like OP and you will be shocked by how much they let you get away with and want more.

      [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (9 children)

      Seriously, it feels like being Socrates in his time where his beliefs were considered a threat to the state. Or Copernicus and Galileo's discoveries being considered "heretical" to the church.

      These men were that tiny fringe portion of the populous who had uncovered this unknown knowledge for the first time that very few people knew or understood. They were seeing their theories and understandings of reality unfold before them repeatedly under the nose of the ignorant masses.

      TRP and its principles have a very similar dynamic. We're seeing everything unfold and as you say witnessing these theories "humming away like clockwork" while TBP masses stand on the sidelines and shout "misogynist" "woman hater" and other things; much like the Athenian court condemning Socrates or those who followed the church condemning scientific discoveries in the enlightenment.

      [–]Elodrian 7 points8 points  (8 children)

      Socrates drank hemlock and Galileo spent his life under house arrest...

      [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

      You're missing my point. Whatever happened to them; fact is the masses demonized their beliefs as "heretical" even though they were the truth because they wanted to hold on to the fantasy that the church or state created for them.

      Just like Blue pillers who want to hold on to their blue pill beliefs and demonize those who took the red pill and took in this newly found knowledge.

      [–]Elodrian 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      I get that. My point is that the heretical truth tellers might be exonerated by history but things tend to go poorly for them within their own lifetimes.

      [–]warjesus420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Have you had white knights or other blue pillers "burn you" online. That's today's equivalent

      [–]StrokeGameHusky 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      when being "Alpha" goes wrong....

      [–]NidStyles 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      A lot of alphas need to learn to just keep their mouths shut.

      [–]Mr_Andry 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      It takes a strong man to be able to smile and not reply.

      Sigh. I'm not that strong yet, but it's a goal.

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        [–]RealRational 15 points16 points  (6 children)

        I find that you have to be at a pretty stable place mentally to be able to handle acid. And on a related note, a lot of girls can not handle acid.

        lol, yeah. I find that to be the case with all psychedelics. Your Ego wants to fight the trip, but you cannot beat the trip. Either you yield or you have a terrible experience.

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          [–]RealRational 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Unless you have some cool ass chicks it's usually better as a guys-only sort of thing.

          Completely agreed, I do know one girl who's hot and "chill" enough to do stuff like that. I like her a lot, but sometimes knowing her is depressing cause it acts as a reminder that literally every other female I've ever known is, by comparison, terrible.

          [–]RealRational 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I just noticed your username too, assuming that's a reference to the games. How cool would it be if you turned out to be one of the developers, haha.

          [–]kaspell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          This is so true. Even at my worst hallucinagens have been like my annual trip to church. Spiritual in good ways... and fun. The only time I experienced some with a gf and she freaked out and tried to ruin my trip. SHe was not prepared for the beach

          [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

          So... what was the activity?

          [–]NidStyles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I've seen the same dynamic with lsd. There are a lot of people out there that shouldn't touch it. I pretty much used to swim in the stuff, as it was the only drug I have ever actually enjoyed myself on. The rest make me feel sick or paranoid.

          [–]_the_shape_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          a lot of girls that I've tripped with can not handle acid.

          What girl would want to take a drug that shows her her own hamster in all its glory?

          [–][deleted]  (45 children)

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            [–]Dude219 24 points25 points  (36 children)

            deleted What is this?

            [–][deleted]  (12 children)

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              [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 20 points21 points  (10 children)

              You could easily amend that to "not be in a serious relationship while in the military" and it'd be totally valid.

              [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 26 points27 points  (9 children)

              LTRs can be discarded and replaced with no damage other than the emotional. Marriage, not so much.

              [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 11 points12 points  (7 children)

              Most LTRs. I'm in my early 20s, and though I have no plans of forming an LTR anytime soon and will never get married) I'm still thinking over how to raise a family with as little risk as possible.

              [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 9 points10 points  (6 children)

              Cohabitation. Raise children without a marital contract.

              [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              It's going to be some variation of that. I'm thinking more on legal aspects, asset division/retention, LTR game, qualities for a potential LTR, etc.

              [–]trpftw 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              Yes do it. Once you figure it out make sure to make a guide for the rest of us and then help raise a generation of red pillers, we'll call it the 2nd wave of redpill.

              If you can make a better legal contract that would be great too. We could call it a "relationship union contract." Suddenly we destroy the institution of marriage, and it won't be the gay guys that destroyed it.

              [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              This is exactly why NEXT applies universally in LTR s when she isn't living up to her end.

              Marriage shackles a man as NEXT has serious implications for his children.

              Did I warn you guys yet? Do not get married

              [–]StrokeGameHusky 19 points20 points  (16 children)

              I'm quite sure I don't have to tell you this, but don't marry a military chick. It's like marrying a soriety ho, but instead she was bunking with 95% dudes for 2+ years, and MMFs in abundance.

              Source: plated an AF chick, great sex, but wanted me to punch her in the face while fucking. Also, wrap ur dick.

              [–]Dude219 9 points10 points  (15 children)

              deleted What is this?

              [–]StrokeGameHusky 8 points9 points  (8 children)

              I am not from a military background, (tried but can't do to a digestive disease) but I always keep in mind most military chicks have a very male mindset. The plate of mine did, she messaged me on fb, I fucked her that night. No longer playing her bc she became very possessive/jealous (male mindset)

              I have never knowingly been Jodie, bc I try and respect the military as much as possible, when it comes to other men, I try to live by the golden rule as much as possible (do unto other as you would have them do unto you)

              You are right about the socially awkward/loser type. She mentioned this many times. She probably enlisted expecting them to all be captain America Chads...

              [–]Dude219 3 points4 points  (7 children)

              deleted What is this?

              [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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                [–]StrokeGameHusky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Up to you at that point. Not my cup of tea either. There's plenty of single options. And the cheating thing makes it exciting, but not one of my kinks.

                [–]Dude219 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                deleted What is this?

                [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Your little brother cock blocked you. Traitor.

                [–]StrokeGameHusky 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Well being surrounded by men most times of day, made to wear the same uniform of a man, and going thru the extract same training and treatment as a man, may have an effect on most women.

                This chick hit me up on fb, go to her house, she suggested power hour, got drunk and fucked. She went thru the steps most men go thru to get laid. I had worked w her when she was 18 and had a bf, 4 years ago.

                She later got fake tits, nips pierced, they came out very nice. I Have pics to confirm of course

                [–]UniversalFapture 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Pics of tits or it didn't happen

                [–]n8dawwg 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Can confirm. After I finished AF basic and went to tech school, there was about 350 newbs that came in that week. OF those 350, I would say only about 40-50 were women. Most definetely there were tons of fucking losers. This one guy was about 27 years old and got arrested for stealing YuGiOh cards fromt he base BX.......... fucking loser.

                [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                You are in Charleston, aren't ya! Lots of sluts on and around that base, ah the memories of mammarys. I would guess you're Travis, but he got married to a thick girl... So it can't be you.

                [–]Dude219 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                deleted What is this?

                [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                Username is similar to his nickname, and it's obviously Goose Creek when you say Navy nuke. Dorchester Ave and the South end of 526 still full of complete idiots?

                [–]RobertCarraway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Couple years back I turned down the opportunity to be Jodie. Buddy was giving us both a ride back to my place and I said screw it - take her home - I'm not going to do it. I don't really blame men for going for it, but we talk a lot about brotherhood here, and for those of us who are legitimately disgusted by this culture a good course of action is to get her to be ready to cheat on him with you and then humiliate her by turning her down. She then suffers all the shame of being ready to cheat combined with the shame of rejection without any sexual pay-off.

                Screw these hoes, I get more fulfillment from being an honorable man who has enough opportunities with women that I can afford to put cheating hoes in their place. This is much more rewarding than an orgasm.

                [–]ReclusiveHermit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                finally see first-hand the machinery underneath the guise we call "romance" or "love" or whatever. The script of male/female human mating behavior, humming away like clockwork.

                It's an amazing realization. Everything we hold dear about "romance" and "love" is just the product of 50+ years of marketing.

                [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 160 points161 points  (18 children)

                This field report illustrates a very important principle:

                Whenever a girl interacts with you of her own volition, sex is on the table.

                Remember, women are constantly surrounded by men who are looking for an opportunity to get with them. Women don't have to go out of their way to get male attention. So when they do, something is up.

                Candy didn't have to come over multiple times. She didn't have to talk with you. She didn't have to interact with you at all.

                She came because she was impelled to by her biology. She was testing a theory that she wasn't even consciously aware of. The theory that you are a Chad that she let slip through her fingers.

                Now that she has re-categorized you, you are free to use her as you see fit. So, do just that. If you want her to continue serving you in this way, never let her believe she is satisfying you more than any other girl you're seeing. Tell her she's "doing all right," with a tone of mild disinterest. Make her work for even the smallest compliments. She now works for YOUR satisfaction, and if she fails to do so, she knows that you've got Fine China (and who knows how many other girl) lining up to make a fool of her.

                Congratulations. You are The Chad now.

                [–]Kaelteth 39 points40 points  (1 child)

                Exactly true.

                I have an ex in my past (way past, since I'm married 20+ years now) named Amy. Amy sucks dick like a champ, but is otherwise a typical well-past-wall single mom of 4 from 3 different baby daddies that might have once been a HB7 but has long since slid into a 4-5 at best.

                Amy goes through a cycle of purging me from her life, and then months later coming back, looking for me to leave the wife (or not) and ride the D. I refuse, she gets offended, purge, and the cycle keeps going. I don't ever initiate any contact, its always her, always "innocent", and then always about wanting to take the dick out for a ride.

                When she comes to me, sex is always on the table. Same with any woman that voluntarily comes and approaches you...she WANTS to fuck.

                Be Chad :)

                [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 30 points31 points  (5 children)

                The medium is the message. The fact she is approaching you is the message. Watch what she does, not what she says.

                [–]1lurkingtacopiller 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                That's one of the best articles I've ever read. Changed the way I view just about every situation

                [–]four20wenty 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                Please tell which article you're referring to, kind sir.

                [–]StrokeGameHusky 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                Can confirm. "The medium is the message"

                She didn't have to talk to you face to face. At your home. At night.

                She could've easily had texted you/called you to get the "information" she needed.

                She wanted to speak to you f2f, so she could see you again, watch your reactions, and in her case, hopefully get fucked.

                Source: BA in Communication Studies

                [–]BowlOfCandy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                Whenever a girl interacts with you of her own volition, sex is on the table.

                Too many male hamsters overlook this principle based on the expectation of always having to initiate. This rhetoric only serves to challenge your abundance mentality. There is nothing wrong with initiating, but you have to know your worth - your time.

                Female sexual strategy is based on them having something we want, (sex), and them giving it out selectively to maintain it as a high quality commodity in the supply/demand chain. That is their frame, if you align to it you "get" what you "work" for.

                You must define the context of the relationship, not her.

                [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                Whenever a girl interacts with you of her own volition, sex is on the table.

                This was a big realization for me. Literally a 100% correlation between a text from a girl and us fucking within 48 hours. They just have to save face by using symbols and placeholders ("we're just getting coffee").

                Let's get coffee never means coffee.

                [–]TaeTaeDS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                The most important bit about the re-categorizing it is that you have to think it yourself. It's no point acting like you're Chad T because you've gone monk mode or something but you have to believe it yourself. You got to tell yourself you are and believe it.

                [–]Zerwas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Whenever a girl interacts with you of her own volition, sex is on the table.

                These are true words of wisdom!

                In college I met the roommate of a friend for and went to a party with her.

                After that she did a surprise visit on my birthday. Needless to say she brought a personal gift.

                Also: When you are aware of this any potential fear of rejection is obsolete.

                [–]1aguy01 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                Whenever a girl interacts with you of her own volition, sex is on the table.

                Strongly disagree.. women love to 'interact' with their orbiters, by asking for favors and complaining about their problems.

                [–]willowhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                True, except if her orbiters where cold ass fuck with her and "opened the door to leave" she wouldn't be banging to get let back it. Quick whine, there back orbiting extra hard. Or she gains extra validation from other orbiters and the old one trys to claw back in.

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                [–]Trpidation 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                The biggest chad moment I've had was picking a girl up from work, getting a blowjob while driving and came in her mouth. Then dropped her off to her house with her bf outside waving. And I saw him kiss her.

                Mind sharing a bit more on this? I'm curious how all this went down, no pun intended. What was the relationship between you and this chick? What happened in the car leading up to the skinflute symphony?

                [–]bea5tly 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                The relationship was we drunkly hooked up once and we were just snapchat friends (I always seen her mirin my snaps). Then one day she said she needed a ride home and I told her ok but your going to give me a bj. She agreed and that was that. TBH I didn't know she had a bf til I dropped her off. She told me later she told her bf that I am her best guy friend and he didnt need to get her that day as I was already in the area.

                [–]Trpidation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Lol that's fucking classic. Excellent work, sir, I'll be using this as a reference.

                [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 29 points30 points  (7 children)

                What people here will find is that when their ex dumps them for being beta and branch swings to chad(s), chad pumps and dumps her, then she goes looking for beta bob for security. This is the time she will most likely reach out to you and you can test TRP.

                Chad theory/instructional posts coming soon to a screen near you.

                [–]GrandmasterHurricane 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                Nah dude. Honestly, the best thing to do is bypass her altogether. If a girl dumps you for Chad, she probably had already fucked him.

                You need to have self respect and completely erase her from your life for life.

                [–]Nebulose11 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                I think you should design some matching pants/jackets to go with GLOs shirts. The two of you combined bring a fantastic knowledge database to TRP.

                [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                You (u/dr_warlock) and u/GayLubeOil could also make them "GLO"-in-the dark.

                That'd be neat.

                [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                Bluepillers called me a 'second rate GLO' in their sub awhile ago lol.

                [–]TRP VanguardCyralea 45 points46 points  (14 children)

                Good shit. It's kind of funny how fast the transition can be. Chad is the caricature of the uber alpha, a non-existent entity that just exemplifies our ideas. Going from being a beta that gets walked all over, however, to the guy women are willing to cheat on their boyfriends with can happen rather quickly.

                [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 31 points32 points  (6 children)

                I have two posts in queue about (1) what I learned from being chad and (2)how to test TRP with your exgf (be her chad). It is the most important experience newbs will acquire and is a major eye opener, especially if she was his innocent unicorn who was a prude in bed.

                [–]fpsdr0p 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                are you going to be posting it soon? would love to read it

                [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 27 points28 points  (3 children)

                Still working on it and will require at least two posts due to the character count limit. It's very extensive, detailing what to expect her to say (and the alternatives), why she says it, what her thought process is, how to arrange a meetup, how you should respond and why you should respond that way, the mindset you need, the new feelings that it will evoke and how to deal with them, how to counteract asd and lmr, how to fuck her correctly, how to act right after sex, how to leave the scene post coitus, and how to make it FWB.

                [–]fpsdr0p 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                can't wait to read it bro. will keep an eye out for it.

                [–]thefisherman1961 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I'm really looking forward to reading those.

                [–]Jaghiro 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                While reading your text, I always thought "His name was Robert Paulson"

                [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                His name is Chad McThundercock.
                His name is Chad McThundercock.
                His name is Chad McThundercock.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Lol, really?? Quickly?? I wish someone would've told me that sooner

                [–]TRP VanguardCyralea 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                Yeah man. A big part of it is the little mental switch over from "I'm a beta nice guy" to "I'm the Chad". Telling yourself you are the former cements the idea that you always will be. You can't really get far until you change your mindset from "I'm a loser" to "I'm a winner".

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                labels are important. Don't let someone label you as Beta Brad, or unsuccessful, or limited. Once you accept the label, you accept the frame. It will color the entire way you view your opportunities.

                [–]1KyfhoMyoba 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Going from being a beta that gets walked all over, however, to the guy women are willing to cheat on their boyfriends with can happen rather quickly.

                And back the other direction even quicker. I just realized that I was Chad with the girl I lost my V-card to, and in beta limbo within a few weeks.

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                  [–]MyLittleAtomBomb 21 points22 points  (2 children)

                  Time to add to my growing list of red flags:

                  Chicks named after carbs.

                  [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (6 children)

                  Its often said its much easier to start over with a new woman then to change an old ones perception that you "turned alpha from beta"

                  While thats true, OP shows how its done. Preselection, negging, holding frame, and abundance mentality.

                  Well done you could've ended up like Mike.

                  Dont be Mike

                  [–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                  Plate to GF is a common and uncomplicated transition.

                  GF directly to plate usually doesn't happen in one step though. There needs to be a breakup "reset period" after which a new relationship is started on the new terms. Note: Her hamster still likely won't see it as a "new" relationship; how you work this can be a big factor in success or failure at re-plating.

                  [–]The_BeardedGentleman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  I found its easiest after about 4 months. Its long enough for them to not hate you entirely, but not be over you entirely. Instead they end up hating themselves because they're fucking someone they somewhat hate. Its kind of funny to watch them try to hamster it away.

                  [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                  GF directly to plate usually doesn't happen in one step though. There needs to be a breakup "reset period" after which a new relationship is started on the new terms. Note: Her hamster still likely won't see it as a "new" relationship; how you work this can be a big factor in success or failure at re-plating.

                  He's right u/theultimatecad.

                  Read "The RP Guide to Defeating the Enemy: Attraction". It covers all that shit.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Oh I agree. I post regularly at MRP and see the long hard road it takes to reclaim power in a relationship if one didnt establish his terms at the onset

                  Dont get married.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Very very uncommon, women can't go backwards in lifestyle, men in sexuality

                  [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Its often said its much easier to start over with a new woman then to change an old ones perception that you "turned alpha from beta"

                  /u/Rollo-Tomassi explains this well in his post The Quick Fix. Hint : there is no quick fix

                  [–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (0 children)

                  There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes

                  [–]FarOrAMess 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                  I fuckin' love your posts, OmLaLa. Just wanted to say that. Very eager for your future plans (the dating sites post & YouTube stuff).

                  [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                  ...and I fucking love you fucking love reading my shit u/FarOrAMess.

                  I also love covering online dating. It's a new frontier. A lot of my future stuff'll cover it in more depth. Hope you'll read that shit too.

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                    [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                    Yeah. We tighter than leggings on college chicks.

                    [–]nantucketghost 10 points11 points  (4 children)

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                    [–]GrandmasterHurricane 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                    Got some bad news for you bruv. She probably had a side of guacamole while with you and your couldn't even tell. Maybe some chips too? Seviche even?

                    A girl like that can never really stop herself.

                    [–]Muhguul 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    So true. Don't know how people go around boasting being alpha while they are in a LTR with a slut. And that's what she is.

                    20 years ago? I'm sure that your salsa lost it's kick a while back. What's that thing we say around here? AWALT? Yea, your girl isn't special.

                    [–]MGHOW_ATL 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    "Nah, we're not dating, just fucking. And she's way better than you. Wanna learn some new tricks?"

                    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                    A wise philosopher once said that these women be not loyal. And then he made that statement into a lyrical song and spread the message to every scholarly man out in the world, right after his boxing match. He danced a jig of happiness as his message spread. Another man, one with long braided hair, but nonetheless a good scholar, aided the man in his research on women. He also spread a message, while donning golden chains to gather attention. His message quoth that why should a man give a woman his heart when she would rather have a purse. The listeners to his message realized the man was right, even though his voice was wheezy, and he was quite young. They all proclaimed AWALT

                    [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                    I doth believe you have failed to accurately provide quotation of said philosopher. I doth remember his exact words to be "these promiscuous harlets be-eth not of the trustworthy variety".

                    Please do practice correct citations, old sport.

                    [–]Veqq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    he/she/it doth, I do. (thou dost) these harlets be

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                    [–]miladmaaan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Great post, this was my favorite part by far.

                    [–]Crotch_Snorkel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Cheers buddy! Good field report

                    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    " I’m Chad now."

                    Sweet writing, you have potential!

                    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

                    I had this, and I let my "morals" get the better of me. That slut could suck cock better than a high-dollar hooker and I let her go all because I "felt bad for the other guy".

                    I guaran-fucking-tee she's blowing some guy other than her husband/whoever... it's just somebody other than me. Ah well, I'm still somewhat new at this. I'll get it eventually. And if I die at the hands of a jealous husband... well, there are worse ways to leave this world I'll tell you that much.

                    [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    Key here is you're recognizing and learning from your mistakes. Good luck out there.

                    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                    I went through the same thing with a girl who had a boyfriend before and learned that it's honestly not even worth giving a fuck about. Men who put up with shitty women deserve to have it happen to them, because they're the dudes that reinforce the idea that it's okay for said woman to have all these "guy friends" and shit that they're secretly fucking or have attraction for.

                    Plus it's happened to me a bunch of times since I first started dating until I discovered TRP like 2 years ago. That's what happens when you date a fucking shitty woman because it's "important to be open minded" and "trust her" SMH.

                    "Trust" what a fucking con-game that is. Trust and loyalty are things that are earned, not just given out. Oh well, I learned through my stupidity, naiveté, and desperation not to be that way anymore.

                    [–]holytrpbatman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Bingo. Any guy that puts up with the shenanigans deserves the end results. Had a fling with a bird, two kids and a fiance who kept putting off the wedding. He found out, she kept at it for a while till I next her. Goes back to him. A few months later I see her at the store, next day she's at my house. A few weeks and he finds out again. A year later he married her. When I run into her at the store again, he'll deserve it even more.

                    At one point I even told his brother to tell him he's an idiot if he marries her. Turns out she was (and probably still is) blowing the brother...

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Betas "trust" their girlfriends. Alphas don't give a fuck. Guess which ones get cheated on?

                    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    "I'm Chad now"... That is some powerful shit I wish I could upvote more than once

                    [–]F_Dingo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    She’s got me listed as her best friend “Miranda”. She told him Miranda was going through some shit and needed a “true friend” tonight. I'm Chad now.

                    Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

                    [–]RedKnight1990 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Fascinating. One of Rollo's laws is if a woman wants to have sex with you, she will find a way. Candy here is literally throwing herself at you and wanted to fuck even with another girl over.

                    Good job, OP, you took control over the boat and made yourself the captain.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Cool story bro. Would read again.

                    [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 13 points14 points  (2 children)

                    And this, class, is why /u/OmLaLa is distinguishing himself as a rising star around here.

                    I usually advise hard nexting women who see you as a beta. Because you're starting from less than zero. It's better to begin with a fresh woman. In fact, I write snarky comments about how impossible it is to dig yourself out that hole. But of course, that's not really true. Like so much around here, it's an colourful exaggeration intended to instruct. It keeps novices away from the oneitis who had them on a leash.

                    When you get good enough, you start to realize the true power of standing your ground. 90% of game is standing your ground. Women take their cues for what is acceptable from others. Women will accept just about anything you act unashamed of, and all but murder you for the slightest annoyance if you apologize for it.

                    • If your girl "catches" you eyeing another woman, and you protest your "innocence", she'll soon have you not allowed to talk to other women, including all your female (former) friends.
                    • If your girl "catches" you eyeing another woman, and you confirm her suspicions and then dress her down for daring to try to control you, you can soon have her helping you pick up other chicks for threesomes.

                    Same woman.

                    /u/OmLaLa had no advanced techniques here. No special trickery. Just an abundance mentality and no fear of "losing" her. When you can discard a woman with no distress at all, standing your ground is easy.

                    Free yourself of the desire for her in particular. Then free yourself of the desire to score or "win" by getting her. Free yourself of the desire to be a "Chad" instead of a "Chode".

                    Learn to regard standing your ground as a higher form of victory than getting laid. If you can do that, I promise you, you will never be thirsty again.

                    [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    Holy shit, u/Whisper. Got me blushing over here.

                    [–]dapowa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Watch, I bet Whisper escalates.. Kidding.

                    [–]tomQrsd 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                    I wonder if you've changed physically over the time

                    [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                    I have. Take my appearance a lot more seriously.

                    [–]Osoto_Gari 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    I'm at the start of my journey- but taking my appearance seriously is one of the first things I took on board.

                    [–]ChrisBenRoy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Can confirm. Last girl I dated I was your standard BB boyfriend. She cheated on me probably at least 3 times. Found TRP after, learned a lot. Not long after we broke up she started working at my building, got to talking a bit, eventually she came over and we fucked. Next night her new b/f was calling my house all pissed about it because she told him we were getting back together and he was trying to tell me that "I've been fucking her for awhile and you're a good dude and don't want to see you get hurt blah blah blah" even showed up to my house. Little did they both know I was just taking the easy pussy closure and my new TRP awakening.

                    Also, after we broke up and had sex outside of our "relationship" she did shit in the bedroom she never did before, I got more road head from just picking her up and taking her to my house the few times we fucked than she gave me blowjobs in our relationship, and she swallowed which she never did before. Par the course.

                    [–]doveenigma13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Being Chad is kinda nice when you leave all that BP conscience shit behind.

                    As I'm typing this I see the top comment showing that if she cheated on you, she will cheat on the guy she cheated on you with. Sometimes she cheats on him with you.

                    Just don't fall back into her trap.

                    [–]MrRexels 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    She had hooker name, what were you expecting?

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Now it's Mike's turn to become Chad.

                    [–]tallpaulguitar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    I was a chad in college. Girl ask me over to watch a movie. Mean girls drinking game. Her bf doesn't please her in bed. I didn't talk the whole night. She tried to impress me with knowledge of music. I'm a musician. Take her up to her room. Rail her out. Pictures of her bf all over her room. Says she will break up with him. I don't care. We do this for months. Bf is clueless. Amazing sex. She hasn't ever had it rough. I don't feel bad for her bf. He was a beta who after learning what I was doing never confronted me. Once he talked to me about Pokemon. We were in college. Lol

                    [–]The_Nekt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    The last bit was gold congrats on your transformation.

                    [–]rabbitriven 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                    Do you ever think that if you knew she had a boyfriend who was close you would still do it?

                    I mean I love what I learn here and all, and apply it always, but sometimes I feel there are lines for me. Especially with this topic. I know if she'll cheat she'll cheat, but I just feel I rather not be THE guy. But I can see me scrapping that if this was a girl who I knew before.

                    I don't know it feels like I need to have some morals, and know I would be pretty pissed if I was on the other end. But then again, I probably would realise.

                    Dunno what hit me from the story, the fact that her phone goes off 5 times and this guy has no clue, lmao. Whats everyones opinion?

                    [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                    As high value as I am (or at least think I am), even if I was with a low value woman dated me and a higher value man came along and tried to fuck her, he'd succeed.

                    Understanding this is key. You'll never be "the best", she'll never be happier with lower if she can get higher.

                    AWALT implies that all women have the propensity to cheat. And if she's faithful now it means you're the highest valued guy with her range.

                    [–]rabbitriven 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    I totally agree with you. in a lot of circumstances that would be the case. But is there never a boundary to which it's possible for a woman to reject a higher value man? I have heard stories of wives doing that (rejective actors/celebrities) and I can never place that on the AWALT scale.

                    Hope you understand why this is a bit frustrating to me, it's a part of the pill which I've swallowed but is going down really slow. Extremely frustrating because I know (to an extent) it's true, but at the same time want to refuse it because it's so frustrating to think.

                    [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    ASD would be a strong motivator not to. If a celeb approaches her in a crowd amongst her peers she might turn him down to save face. But should she be near him on multiple occasions, well... let's just say privacy opens a lot more things than doors.

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Had a genuine good laugh at the ending. Very nice.

                    [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    To u/akjoltoy, who wrote the following comment to myself and TRP yet quickly deleted it without giving me a chance to respond:

                    Hardcore man. Dump a girl just because you realize you're in a LTR.

                    No one is as sex motivated as the people in this sub pretend to be.

                    You're just guys who got hurt and learned the wrong lessons from it.

                    There's trash and quality in both genders.

                    Pretending all women are garbage and that acting like a stonecold dickhead is the best way to get laid is just your defense mechanism against the fact that in the REAL world, you have to actually play games to get ahead.

                    You have to do a mix of telling the truth and lying, of being yourself, and being someone else. Of playing games and being real. Of trusting people and being a dick.

                    This people in this sub are so unbelievably pathetic it's unreal. Every one of your posts reads like a virgin trying to prove he's not.

                    If (and this is a colossal if) this shit is face value true, then it's unbelievable because we've got a gathering of like a thousand guys with sex drives at the 3 standard deviation mark.

                    Statistically that's just impossible.

                    Unbelievably transparent and pathetic.

                    Here’s u/OmLaLa’s response:

                    Hardcore man. Dump a girl just because you realize you're in a LTR.

                    Dump a girl because I realized I'm in a bad LTR.

                    No one is as sex motivated as the people in this sub pretend to be.

                    Understanding sex and chasing it are two different things.

                    You're just guys who got hurt and learned the wrong lessons from it.

                    And what's the right lesson? Keep trying until I "find the one? Ignoring that divorce rates in the U.S. are nearing 50% for couples between 20 and 39?

                    There's trash and quality in both genders.

                    I'm not arguing against that.

                    Pretending all women are garbage and that acting like a stonecold dickhead is the best way to get laid is just your defense mechanism against the fact that in the REAL world,

                    Not once have I said or supported that "all women are garbage". I've said "all women are like that", meaning there's no special batch of women that operates outside a certain parameter.

                    You could say AMALT that on a ton of topics. A need for sex for instance.

                    You have to actually play games to get ahead.

                    Dating, marriage, relationships. It's all a game. Your there to get something you want whether it' sex or validation. To think it's anything but is willing delusion.

                    You have to do a mix of telling the truth and lying, of being yourself, and being someone else.

                    I'm me at all times. If anything I'm more honest then most because when all I want from a girl is sex, I tell her that from the start. She's a big girl, so I'll leave it up to her on whether or not to sleep with me.

                    Of playing games and being real.

                    See above.

                    Of trusting people and being a dick.

                    I trust people that have earned my trust. Trusting every person that hops into my life is a recipe for failure. I wouldn't trust every gun to fire or every car to start because I want them to.

                    This people in this sub are so unbelievably pathetic it's unreal.

                    How? You should throw around baseless insults.

                    Every one of your posts reads like a virgin trying to prove he's not.

                    If that's the only way you can read it, maybe you're perception is limited to that of a virgin or a sex depraved individual.

                    If (and this is a colossal if) this shit is face value true, then it's unbelievable because we've got a gathering of like a thousand guys with sex drives at the 3 standard deviation mark.

                    Every guy has a high sex drive. Weaker men deny this fact because they're taught it's something to be ashamed of.

                    Statistically that's just impossible.

                    Look up the average man's levels of testosterone compared to a woman's, then look up the range of a man's possible testosterone levels in correlation to their libidos and make that statement again.

                    Unbelievably transparent and pathetic.

                    Again, baseless.

                    You came to us for an answer. Don't leave before we can give it to you.

                    [–]musclebound92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Not to be a goody good and add morals to the equation, but if I was in your position, which I have been in similar ones twice, I would tell Mr. Mike. Fucken use a friends phone or leave a note on his car, who knows. If the sex is good with this ex girlfriend and is something you want to hold on to, I say be discreet in telling him. Being cheated on like that is a shitty feeling, no matter how tough someone is. Tell the poor guy what he probably already knows, and let this bitch know that she is not in control of the situation or her attempts to manipulate men. Its the right thing to do, and I would want a guy to do that for me. Men should look out for one another, fuck, tell him about TRP, maybe this will open his eyes to the vast, awesome world that can be his if he wants it. Good luck, and great fucken post man.

                    [–]thefinn12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Come on guys the real question is - did she improve ?

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Anyways, I dumped her ass soon after reading that.

                    Because women want what they can't have, alpha widows are created by the dumping, not the pumping.

                    Well played.

                    [–]EmpyMagazine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Lol, I remember the scene from the Highlander where the hooker walks into Kurgen's room."Hi,I am Candy."

                    [–]ucfgavin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Just be careful about Mike...it sounds like he already knows whats up. Make sure you call her on her bullshit and lies (you know she is going to lie to him).

                    [–]AntixD 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    "I'm the chad now" You funny motherfucker I love you

                    [–]mrmeyhemn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    same sort of story with my last LTR. stopped being her friend, she came back wanting to "be friends", found out a couple of months later that I was her chad. nsa sex? good times, enjoy!

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                    I'm not saying this is a fabricated story but it does read like TRP porn.

                    [–]Vlauer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    That feeling when your plate's bf calls her right after you fuck her... For now I've been able to "channel" Chad's spirit from time to time, but I'm working on fully becoming Chad.

                    Great post as always, OmLaLa.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Lol or when her cell phone is vibrating with texts from BF on the lamp table next to the bed while you're pounding her vag to orgasmville.

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