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Red Pill TheoryLife or primitive Jane: the boys are hunting (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorPopeman79

Jane wakes up under the bear fur that she shares with two other females. It’s 100,000 years ago, and it’s freaking cold outside. The fire at the entrance of the cave has been reduced to a few glowing embers. She glances over at Bobnick, the only male who was left behind by the hunting party, and whose mission is to protect the females. His skinny ass is fast asleep near the almost extinguished fire, with a spear laying near him. Jane grumbles and walks towards the entrance, where she throws a couple of sticks on the fire. If the fire dies, it’s a pain in the ass for everyone.

She then goes out of the cave and squats to relieve herself on the ground. She smells like grease, sweat and shit, but she’s still one of the most attractive females of the tribe: her hips are wide, her breasts are heavy, she still has almost all her teeth, and there is meat on her bones. When she turns back she notices Bobnick, who woke up, staring at her naked ass. She smiles and winks seductively at him. She hates this useless fucker, but if the boys don’t come back from the hunt he’ll be the only male available to protect the tribe.

It’s been four nights since the hunting party has left, and still no sign of them. The females are starting to become agitated, hungry, and above all, afraid. What if they don’t come back? It will mean death for a big part of the tribe, unable to sustain itself. During the day they go to gather fruits and seeds in the nearby forest under the protection of Bobnick and his spear, then they stay in the cave, sowing or polishing stones. But there isn’t much to do and mostly, they talk. If the hunting party doesn’t come back, Bobnick becomes the de facto leader of the group. He was left behind because he’s the weakest of the males, and usually the whole tribe makes fun of him, and nobody shows him much respect. But now, every female is eyeing him and smiling at him.

Jane is Chadrock’s main female -or at least she competes for the top position. She knows how to gently lay on his lap and lick his penis when he’s resting, she knows how to ride him to shivering orgasms, and she knows how to stroke the back of his head to make him fall asleep at night between her breasts. Chadrock also fucks other females, in particular Uma who is younger, and Jane always has to improve her game to keep him coming back to her. Chadrock is who all the females want: he’s the best hunter, it seems like he leads the boys (although they always talk serious stuff away from the females), and he’s fucking huge. Jane loves Chadrock.

But now it’s getting late, and she’s eyeing Bobnick. Uma is sitting near him and giggling and caressing his hair. Bobnick is visibly happy but can’t believe his luck just yet and he’s not doing anything. Maybe the boys will be back tomorrow? Jane can’t take the risk, she can’t let Uma have him. She has to preserve her place at the top of the female hierarchy. Jane walks to them and squats in front of Bobnick, opening her naked ass and winking at him, just like she did in the morning when she was taking a shit.

That’s too much for poor Bobnick who throws Uma to the side and jumps on Jane, and immediately starts to fuck her furiously. She’s not wet and it hurts, but the pain is nothing compared to the pleasure of seeing Uma’s angry face in the corner of her eye.

Jane is moaning sensually to make this go faster, but then a shadow fills the cave and her moans change to screams, as she suddenly tries to push Bobnick away. A huge wooden mass comes slamming on the side of Bobnick’s head, and his brain splatters on the cave wall while Jane escapes from under him. It’s Chadrock. With one hand, he throws Bobnick’s dead body to the side like a piece of wood. He and the other males behind him carry a lot of meat, they look exhausted. Jane starts to thank him profusely, saying that Bobnick forced himself on her, but Chadrock cuts her short with a heavy slap to the face. She falls back on the ground, she can taste blood in her mouth. Chadrock then throws the meat to the side, and starts to fuck her. Chadrock is way bigger than Bobnick, but it doesn’t hurt. She’s instantly wet. She’s relieved too, the anguish of the past days has vanished, they will survive. And he chose to fuck her first instead of Uma. Jane is happy.

Lessons learned

This has been going on for approximately 200,000 years. Modern society has only existed for a few centuries (less than 1% of that time). Guess how our genes are wired?


[–]OMGtothemoon 547 points548 points  (10 children)

I have the weirdest boner right now.

[–]J_The_Juiceman 171 points172 points  (3 children)

Same... Not my proudest fap

[–]fromthecrypt8 61 points62 points  (2 children)

Probably not your least proudest fap either, am I right?

[–]J_The_Juiceman 35 points36 points  (1 child)

No... And definitely not my weirdest fap either... That'd probably be the time I fapped to literally nothing, as in, I came to the physical act, whilst maintaining a blank state of mind.

If you aren't a wizard by that point, you instantly become one.

[–]SKRedPill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, be grateful. It means you're not suffering from any kind of dysfunction.

[–]FrankCostanza111 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I know right. that was hot

[–]terminalplatz 45 points46 points  (0 children)

The most primal boner I've ever had

[–]The_Phoenecian 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Good to know I wasn't alone in that. This shit runs deep.

[–]lorum_ipsum_dolor 259 points260 points  (69 children)

she still has almost all her teeth

Ironically, ancient humans had fewer problems with their teeth. Modern diets, especially cheap refined sugar have been a boon to the dental industry.

Nice essay. The more things change the more they stay the same.

[–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 76 points77 points  (60 children)

Didn't know that about the teeth (admittedly I didn't do much research). Thanks

[–]VickVaseline 45 points46 points  (47 children)

Also, the average life expectancy at the time was around 18. Teeth didn't generally have much time to rot.

I also wonder how much penis-licking was going on when everyone reeked of grease, sweat, and shit.

I loved this post, though.

[–]Nocryingok 36 points37 points  (4 children)

Average life expectancy was around 18?

It's actually 30+ and if you reach more than 15 years of age, then it's 50+ (there's a very high mortality rate on childhood)

And neuroscience proves this. The human brain only finishes his development around 25 years of age, which would we stupid if individuals aren't expected to live at least double that.Be careful with spreading biased, "guessed" information.

[–]Inaspe 21 points22 points  (3 children)

One study I read based on remaining hunter gatherer societies states that if they reached ~15 their average life span was 72 years.

[–]Nocryingok 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Wow, that's pretty cool. Indeed I think that the hunter gatherer lifestyle is much less dangerous than people think, since they're used to the threats and know how to deal with them

[–]XenoMall 7 points8 points  (1 child)

main danger is other humans.

[–]GanksGriefersForFun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PvP is always a main way of dying. Animals can't coordinate like humans do. Tribes of +30 people can at least improvise a trap here and there, or always have a main force for dealing with threats like bears.

[–]uralian 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Why do people still think that life expectancy = the age you're going to live to? Infant mortality rate skews the numbers. Once you live past your wary years, you have a good chance of living until your immune system stops working (old age) or you get hit by a rock (bad luck)

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 73 points74 points  (33 children)

Ancient societies were surprisingly clean - for they were pagans and had gods/spirts of water that would often bathe in the water. Morever fertility was closely associated with water for harvests and plant growth heavily depended upon it as well as because many people would frolick (ie have sex) in rivers and lakes and on the banks of them. Ancient societies had entire rituals deidcated to cleanliness. It was with the coming of Christianity that the Church outlawed frequent bathing, especially amongst the clergy. There was only one day a year that the clergy would bathe, fearing that frequent bathing would wash the holiness of christ off of them. Similarly this was the case for peasants who listened to what the clergy said. Hence why the Black Death happened in the middle ages, at the height of the Churches power (not before when pagans bathed and fucked in bodies of water) and not after when the influence of the Church waned and many people started bathing again. Ironically though, it was the Church who tried to paint pagans as "dirty barbarians" when Pagans were cleaner than the Christians.

/Rant

[–]Sonic324 44 points45 points  (16 children)

We’ve had a lot of problems since a certain tribe introduced that certain abrahamic religion, haven’t we

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Indeed. Before then humans where inches from industalizing in Rome. The pagan Romans even managed to build prototype steam boats for Emperor Nero. All knowledge that was lost with the coming of a certain abrhamic religion.

[–]warburgio 9 points10 points  (3 children)

prototype steam boats for Emperor Nero

Rly?

[–]TheRealJesusChristus 12 points13 points  (1 child)

What I know is boats that had motorlike constructions on them. But they were powered by oxen which walked in a cirkle on the boat effectively making wind needless. And I know of steampowered selling machines and time measuring devices invented by greeks, romans and egyptians.

Edit: Source ox-drawn boat (only a picture I will look deeper): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/De_Rebus_Bellicis,_XVth_Century_Miniature.JPG

Source with more indepth: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_technology

1century AD in roman egypt invented or at least described steam machine: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile

As it looks like, steam machines werent used, they were more like a temple wonder... not sure about those selling machines, they, too, existed but apparently not steam powered.

(EDIT: deleted the „looking for a source“ thing)

[–]aduar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hero of Alexandria was a Greek engineer

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yup. He wanted to use them to assiassinate his mother. I read about it in "Ghosts of Vesuvius" by Charles Pellegrino

[–]COharbinger -1 points0 points  (9 children)

In my opinion forms of Christianity embody the pillars of red pill and the alpha male. It is based off of the family unit, community, male leadership, female submission. Yes it has its problems but I don’t think it’s that bad. What are your thoughts?

[–]throw_awwy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My thoughts are.. f--- religions, especially Abrahamic ones that introduced the whole concept of sin and sex being dirty and to be hidden!

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 23 points24 points  (5 children)

It is based on the premise that a man should submit and turn the other cheek when threatened. It is a morality of slaves, for instead of telling people to work on themselves and become superior, noble - it tells people that they are fine just the way they are as long as they believe in God and repent and that coveting more in this life (striving to be better) is "sinful" ("bad"). It tries to keep people in a slave state of mind. If you look at the predecessor to Catholicism - Orthodoxy, this is the case. Orthodox people refer to themselves as "the slaves of God". There is no strength and pride in being a slave.

Pagans were the opposite for they believed that the Gods want them to be strong and beautiful, to commit great deeds that will allow them to enter the afterworld were they will meet their illustrious ancestors who will stand in judgement of their life. Other pagans simply believed that the greatest way to glorify the Gods was to live a life of strength and virtue and their prayer was sacrifice and Great Deeds.

Do you see the difference?

[–]SKRedPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Religion might know a few red pill truths but it's solution is to turn into the ultimate betaizing machine ever invented by mankind.

[–]Johnny-Thunderfrost 5 points6 points  (5 children)

It’s a shame the church did that. The Old Testament law was fanatical about cleanliness and was way ahead of it time in terms of rituals to prevent disease. They should’ve read their Bibles a bit more closely.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 4 points5 points  (4 children)

The Old Testament law was fanatical about cleanliness

Because in many ways it was still based on pagan beliefs who greatly valued cleanliness. As more people became Christian and Paganism became a distant memory, the Church realized it did not need to hold onto these 'heretical' pagan traditions.

[–]francisco_DANKonia 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Most people lived near water, and I imagine they bathed in it from time to time. Not as often as today, but I don't think they were horribly nasty most of the time.

[–]randarrow 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Lived near and in water so long we lost our fur, developed control of our vocal chords, grew hymens, became boyant, developed a better layer of fat... only other animals which developed like this are other water mammals like whales, dolfins, hippos....

The missing link was some sort of water ape. Part of the reason we don't have it in fossil record is probably that it broke down in the water before it could be fossilized. We also don't know where this happened so we can't look, might have been only over a few thousand years, and that area might be submerged.

[–]francisco_DANKonia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That actually sounds like a really good hypothesis

[–]sky_fallen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

C'mon they weren't chimps. They were like us.

[–]SKRedPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where they really got nasty was in the Medieval period, because Christianity declared that exposing the body was sinful even to oneself.

[–]SnatchWhistle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Key word average. This average includes infant deaths.

[–]LuvBeer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just go to a natural history museum. You'll see a lot of thousand-year-old jaw bones with the remaining teeth undecayed.

[–]Mr_Zarika 8 points9 points  (1 child)

An example in more recorded history is the Aborigines in Aus.

https://imgur.com/a/tovcvrX

They had wide dental arches and all their teeth, before they started getting ahold of European foods.

[–]DONTuseGoogle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sugar is poison. Don't eat that shit. I'f you need desert, eat something high in fat, and cut all the bullshit hydrogenated oils

[–]m9299 10 points11 points  (1 child)

No teeth = best blow job... ask my Nan..lol

[–]MasculineDevelopment 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This. Look into Dr. Mike Mew, great red pill advice on growing a stronger jawline.

[–]Adeus_Ayrton 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's a pro, but not entirely true, since there's a catch: Because there were lots of small stones, bones and other stuff in what they ate, their teeth were way worse.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 221 points222 points  (3 children)

Did Bobnick even lift?

[–]Atheist_Utopia 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Poor soul should've read the sidebar.

[–]MarcosDomingues 134 points135 points  (11 children)

Actually you're wrong. There were no differences between sexes, until a powerful male patriarchy arose to oppress wymyn.

Also all cavemen were vegan and did crossfit.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Lol yep. Even though we see that among our most closely related cousin, chimpanzees, males are completely dominant over females and are the only ones who engage in hunting and warfare, we must assume that humans at some point lost these sex differences and they were only reinstated at the dawn of evil, patriarchical western civilization.

Also it’s only a coincidence that all the advanced civilizations we see anywhere on the planet are patriarchies. Yea. Just ignore that fact.

[–]MarcosDomingues 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Nah, male chimps were just conditioned by the evil oppressor patriarchy because of a hollywood rape culture that tought them to act tough and rape femal chimps, right?

[–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Haha fuck you're absolutely right. Thanks.
You and imnothingness prompted me to write the female version below his comment..

[–]ButteredPastry 150 points151 points  (15 children)

"When you get right down to it, human beings are nothing more than ordinary jungle beasts. Savages. No different from the Cro Magnon people who lived twenty five thousand years ago. No different. Our DNA hasn't changed substantially in a hundred thousand years. We're still operating out of the lower brain. The reptilian brain. Fight or flight. Kill or be killed. We like to think we've evolved and advanced because we can build a computer, fly an airplane, travel underwater, we can write a sonnet, paint a painting, compose an opera. But you know something? We're barely out of the jungle on this planet. Barely out of the fucking jungle. What we are, is semi-civilized beasts, with baseball caps and automatic weapons." - George Carlin

Anyone in this thread who spergs out about this post being some sort of fantasy or satire isn't getting the point of this post.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 62 points63 points  (10 children)

No different from the Cro Magnon

Absolutely right. We literally are Cro Magnons and they are us. We have not changed from them at all except by replacing our spears with guns and our furs with nylon, polyester and cotton.

Want to see true human nature, unrestrained by the thin veneer of society and arbitrary "social rules"? Go observe human behavior in warzone or disaster zones. Watch people fight each other likes beasts over scraps of food, women offer themselves for food/clothing/shelter/to not get killed, watch people kill for the sheer joy of it or if taken by bloodlust. People are beasts, the most dangerous and complete beasts of them all - whereas a beast of the forest is directed by his instinct, humans are the only beast capable of being cruel, of killing and maiming for joy.

Look at what happened in the Yugoslavian war as an example where seemingly "proper", "law abiding" citizens, people who you'd never guess, who look similar to your neighbors - become beasts of kmmense savagery

Mercy only lasts as long as the belly is full and the throat not parched.

[–]dotwav2mpfree 7 points8 points  (4 children)

You need to read some more Aristotle. Speaking of humanity as rational animals has some strong arguments in its favor, but it is certainly not an irrefutable truth.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I never spoke of them as such in my post. I said that humans live behind a veneer hiding their true natures that are revesled in times of crises when social restraints break down.

[–]Blue_Fix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From what I've been looking at in college this is now disputable. It turns out that the selection pressure of culture works much faster than natural selection and this means that the minimum time for a significant change has moved from tens of thousands of years to just over 800 years in the most severe cases.

It's related to The Baldwin effect and we learned about it in the context of Jonathan Haidt's book The Righteous Mind.

[–]Rabbit-Punch 2 points3 points  (1 child)

so deep. comedians are so smart

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[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 5 points6 points  (2 children)

MATE!

That was the first post I thought about after reading this.

I remember it wasn't upvoted or popular, but the truth is, it was THE shit.

I think it could be long before you've got flaired here.

Good job on that one.

There was that one more comment (or post) about that caveman who masturbated to stone porn, remember that?

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    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Fuck them, nobody understood it. Should have started with “trp conformed - straight from the horses mouth - what my sister and mother told me “ next time

    [–]SKRedPill 39 points40 points  (0 children)

    And before that it went on for at least 500 million years through the animal and reptilian kingdom...

    [–]anish610 23 points24 points  (8 children)

    Where to find more cave men literature?

    [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 52 points53 points  (5 children)

    I have no idea, but if this is well received, I'll write another one like that. I think it's interesting to see how our behaviours are rooted in more primal instincts. Once I started to see women in this light, it became all easier to understand.

    Glad you appreciated it.

    [–]anish610 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Exactly! Also it gives a well justification for men to not be ashamed of their sexuality. And reminds men to not forget that they are descendeds of those alpha ancestors!

    [–]puredemo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    except we're not allowed to bash some brains in because of the "justice system" -- so everything's fucked.

    [–]Chaddeus_Rex 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Read "Before Adam" by Jack London. Its very similar to the post - in fact while reading the post I felt a deja vu. That book redpilled me at an early age, or at least planted the seeds.

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (7 children)

    Good post. This is certainly one possible realistic scenario about our pre-modern mating patterns. I’m personally inclined to believe it was some combination of this scenario and a “flexible” monogamy. There is certainly an undeniable human desire to pair bond. We know that the brain releases certain hormones that encourage pair bonding after sex.

    Likely we were capable of either depending on the situation and individual circumstances.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 13 points14 points  (5 children)

    Pair bonding is one of the big unexplored questions of TRP in my opinion. There is something more to it than just sheer horniness. Male and female polarities are meant to be associated, it's just not working right now.

    [–]SKRedPill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    If nature's end goal is survival, genes and children - then all 3 sexual strategies (Polygamy, Hypergamy, and Exclusivity) make sense - but it's not possible to satisfy all of them at once.

    Pair bonding makes sense actually from a survival perspective. It's just that it can easily turn into one-itis for an amateur who hasn't been toughened enough. Pair bonding need not be monogamous and it exists even in polygamous tribes. Men can love multiple women. Women however only entertain multiple male fantasies when they want alpha seed, her needs of pregnancy and child care dictate the necessity to pair bond for her survival, while hypergamy means she usually needs to lose attraction for one male before falling for another. Competition between other men and other women usually dictate the need for strong pair bonding.

    Many aspects of modern sexual culture are not natural - they're aided by technology like the pills, condoms and modern social law systems, which means sex can be made consequence free and commitment is state supported.

    [–]Self-honest 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I believe like 4 out of 60,000 primate species are "monogamous". Humans being 1 of the 4, and we all know how debatable that is.

    I think the nature of life is impermanence. So the more lifespan increases, the less advantageous monogamy becomes. I know you said pair bonding, just throwing that into the discussion.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    So....when I started delving into the manosphere, it was TRP and Blackdragon, for the most part. I think that Blackdragon's system of FB/MLTR/OLTR makes good sense. There's no reason you can't have a girl you genuinely care for, root for, cheer on, and fuck a different girl the next day. I have two girls right now, and I know for sure for one of them I'm one of her biggest sources for game planning and advice.

    I think it's possible to have relatively deep yet multiple relationships. At the end of the day, it's women who tend to end relationships, and our skills at picking up women erode while in LTR's, which is why I have the stock phrase (I think this is mine anyway) "Spinning plates is a rational response to hypergamy."

    [–][deleted]  (48 children)

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    [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 117 points118 points  (17 children)

    The whole Red Pill Subreddit is a sexual Alpha fantasy. I don't know if you noticed yet....

    Sexual Alpha Fantasy is an excellent path out of Nihilist Hedonist Why Both Hentai Trap Porn degeneracy that our user base has found themselves in.

    [–][deleted]  (14 children)

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      [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 9 points10 points  (13 children)

      There's always Post Nihlism: being for the sake of being. It has a way of pissing of Gen Xers though and usually gets you compared to Australian painters.

      [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 3 points4 points  (12 children)

      That's pretty rich. A millennial lecturing gen x on being worthless.

      [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 28 points29 points  (11 children)

      Gen X successfully pissed off point proven.

      [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 5 points6 points  (10 children)

      It's not like I care about the decline, as it's been a long time coming, I just hope I die before I end up being this guy.

      [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 4 points5 points  (6 children)

      Sounds like a case of Reflexive Impotence. The future bis whatever you want it to be the only caveat is that you must first reach out and take it from those who don't deserve the future.

      [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      The millennials should be terrified of the generation below them. They are actively conspiring against them. The former doesn't want to let go other delusion. The latter doesn't give a fuck what they want.

      There are going to be some very shiny boots in the future.

      Meanwhile I got mine. I'll retire to my bagger compound in the middle of nowhere with my guns and dogs. Of course, nubile young blondes are welcome to join, though there is an initiation into this club.

      [–]1Senor_Schwifty 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      And the generation below the millennials should be scared of the generation below them and there's nothing any of us can do... Reflexive Impotence indeed.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Nubile young blondes of high quality will not want to retire until they are not "Nubile young blondes" anymore.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      What really declined anyway?

      [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Declining.

      [–]saltyafrican 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Thank you for the insight

      [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 40 points41 points  (4 children)

      This story is meant to show how the female mind works, and how all these traits that we criticize (hypergamy, use of sexuality as a weapon, lack of accountability, ever-changing mind and feelings based on circumstances) all have a very reasonable and grounded motive from an evolutionary perspective.

      [–]SendThotsAndPrayers 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      How do you describe a mindset to a person who doesn't understand the opposite sex in the first place? This is the real challenge right here, you've done your part - quite impressively I might add, but if the reader does not understand how females think, then he will see this as sexual fiction.

      Spergs are inflexible. Everything that is outside of their little worldview is fiction.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      How indeed. I assume you've heard the expression: "The only winning move is not to play." Another relevant one is: "Do not cast your pearls before swine."

      Evolution cuts out those who are not fit to survive. That includes the males with inflexible worldviews who are "unable to understand the opposite sex in the first place." They will likely fail to breed much and therefore by being that way they have qualified for living Darwin Awards.

      Those who are capable of becoming illuminated will read the sexual fiction and start to wonder if there is a seed of truth in it. The rest will be lost. It's just nature.

      [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Yay story time for Robo Spergs who only come here to follow direct instruction!

      What set of instructions do I need to follow as the spergs to become a *leader" not understanding the inherent contradiction.

      Fun post by the way.

      [–]Chaddeus_Rex 3 points4 points  (9 children)

      Thats how the world worked. Its in pur fucking genetics. Thats why men have fewer male ancestors to female ones in a 17:1 ratio.

      Fucking cuck.

      [–]strongcrunch 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      If you actually read the article men who had more power and wealth reproduced. In RP terms "betabucks" had all the babies

      [–]Chaddeus_Rex 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Power in ancient times was synonymous with physical strength. And the guys with physical strength had all the resources.

      [–]eyewant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      This. If you weren't strong enough to protect your wealth, you could easily be killed by someone stronger.

      [–]saltyafrican 1 point2 points  (5 children)

      What are you trying so hard to prove?

      [–]Chaddeus_Rex 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      Nothing. I'm just shaming you for using feminine language, not understanding the principles of TRP and being a cuck.

      [–]saltyafrican 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      You are trying so hard to justify yourself and calling me the cuck...great response! Its evident you follow TRP teachings!

      If my opinion offended you, good, because I really dont give a fuck.

      [–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Its not offending me. Im trying to make you more of a man, but stay salty bloopie.

      [–]saltyafrican 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      LOL. As salty as a sailor, arrrghhh!

      [–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 3 points4 points  (6 children)

      Write a TL/DR reply of how m-f dynamics worked in "caveman times", I'm interested in what you think was happening back then.

      [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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      [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (8 children)

      You should re-write this from the modern feminist man haters perspective so we can sit around eating sugar free popcorn...for the lolz

      [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 131 points132 points  (3 children)

      Jane wakes up, she sees Bobnick sleeping near the extinguished fire and she throws sticks on it, clearly without females this tribe would go to shit. She squats to relieve herself and Bobnick is watching her, she winks seductively because it's a great day and she feels like it, sure she never found him attractive but today she feels different also it doesn't mean anything. It's all fun and games. The boys aren't back from the hunt well she knew that it was stupid to send only boys and keep the females at home. If they don't come back the females will go hunting no problem, sure they've never tried but how hard can it be? Females can do everything males can. How big can a bear be? It's like big rabbit basically. Now it's late and Uma is eyeing Bobnick, Jane goes and squats in front of him because she feels like she wanna be part of this lighthearted sexy game, it's just fun after all, then Bobnick jumps on her and fucks her, it hurts but strangely she knows it's all in a good spirit, but then she hears people coming and she like kinda snaps out of it and realizes that hey! They're actually raping me! and she fights back but thankfully Chadrock crushes Bobnick's head, yeah this rapist had it coming! and Jane is so happy to see the love of her life but then he slaps her, but he must be exhausted so this time she decides to let him off the hook and by subtly seducing him she prompts him to start fucking her.

      [–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

      Good Fucking Lord sticky this right under the original piece where it belongs!

      [–]SKRedPill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      This might not be far from the truth either. Feminism is a gigantic case of AWALT under a marketing veneer of NAWALT.

      [–]1Zanford 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      The feminist version of this is the version of this story that Jane tells Chadwick at the end.

      Think about that. Now, what if every other feminist fairy tale you've heard has a similar origin behind it?

      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Most have.

      A guy I know recently split up with his wife.

      She is telling everyone some sob story about how he hits her... having known the pair of them, and having a red pilled lense, and having watched their interrelational dynamic when they were together, I don't believe this at all. Meanwhile all the BP people in his life are dropping him like flies and jumping over hoops to help her out in any way they can....

      Of course I could be completely wrong but I consider myself perceptive and due to past experiences I had to teach myself how to judge body language literally to survive (trauma is all I will say) so I doubt it.

      [–]1Zanford 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      Tale as old as time. Go with your gut.

      Plus, consider this:

      His incentives for actually hitting her are:

      • None. Doing so instantly hands her blackmail material, and his life is ruined if she uses it.

      Her incentives for lying to say he hit her are:

      • auto-win button in divorce proceeding and among their social circles

      "Cui bono" aka "Who profits?"

      [–]FarBeyondPissed 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Glad that Chadrock got his hole after putting in work for the tribe.

      Good point to take away about offering the most to society in order to reap the benefits of being respected and loved and all the good things that come with that, something I'm sure everyone can agree upon.

      [–]saggygooch20 35 points36 points  (0 children)

      I suppose that was a good example. Sounding a bit gay for chadrock though.

      [–]faggots4trump 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      At least 300k years - recently they found 300 thousand years old remains of Homo Sapiens in Morocco.

      [–]ben1324 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Lol’d when I read “Chadrock”

      [–]SendThotsAndPrayers 18 points19 points  (1 child)

      A good description of female mindset. Problem is, it takes IQ, open mindset and a total unplugging from BP world to understand the meaning behind it.

      Lets see how it goes.

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      [–]Adeus_Ayrton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      All I see in there are facts. I didn't even get the humor part, if there was one. I would bet my bottom dollar that this story occurred approximately the way it did, at the very least a few literal hundred thousand times.

      [–]bobaisdope 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Ironically, I feel pain and pleasure reading this story at the same time. Well written!

      [–]Bing_Bang_Bam 7 points8 points  (4 children)

      I would like to hear more (mis)adventures about this primitive tribe. It's kinda like "Clan of The Cave Bear" but with a more scientific approach.

      [–]International_Row 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      Clan of the Cave Bear has a strong feminist message the main character is a woman who can do anything a man can do and better. Then she is expelled and left to die due to the machinations of a jealous dude. In the next few books, she finds love but it is with a pleasant person who treats her well, not some well-endowed alpha. The author herself is a woman who previously worked in a male-dominated industry, where she resented the men being condescending to her and denying her opportunities to her gender.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      not some well-endowed alpha

      Actually the guy she found love with was exactly that. He was unusually tall, good looking, independent, very capable... pretty much the very stereotype of the ultra-male.

      And Ayla eventually fucks another guy (who is half black, too, no symbolism there) just because she feels like. And then her tall, perfect god-man forgives her. Hmm, yeah, it is pretty much a female fantasy.

      *Edit: Oh, and I had forgotten, it was explicitly mentioned and described that he had a very large penis. Plenty of sex scenes in that series.

      [–]Bing_Bang_Bam 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Right, that's why the op's story was better and funnier.

      [–]Dravous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      you should check out "the quest for fire". much better movie IMO, and much mire realistic(in terms of gender relations anyway).

      [–]ssr401 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Most cavemen didn't actually live in caves. They built huts out of whatever was around, just like poor people today.

      [–]puredemo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Neanderthals lived in caves. Resulting in a crazy evolutionary branch.

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      [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 15 points16 points  (4 children)

      Care to explain why?

      How do you think male-female relations worked for hundreds of thousands of years? By democratic vote?

      [–]SendThotsAndPrayers 17 points18 points  (3 children)

      This guy has been posting only negative comments on TRP - not a single useful contribution to this sub. He's not unplugged, and the unfortunate thing is that there are - at least, about 10 people like him lurking here.

      We've been invaded by BP betas.

      Just report and hope that mods nuke him.

      [–]modSlyGradient[M] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Dealt with.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Not gonna report him on the basis of this comment alone, but yeah thanks.

      [–]dontgiveupcarib 13 points14 points  (27 children)

      A million Chadrocks were eliminated by nerdy sociopathic conquerors with better weapons.

      Human females select males based on survivability, and intelligence is a far better indicator for survival than strength or size.

      Modern cultural circumstances provide gym bros with ample advantages compared to prehistoric times due to betas paying high taxes. If you go back to prehistoric world don’t expect to have better options just because you’re stronger or larger.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 11 points12 points  (21 children)

      I agree about the weapons, but the technology breakthroughs were shortlived (a few decades) in comparison to the length of human history. All in all, the best athletes had the best chance for survival up until a few centuries. At first they fought with hands and teeth, then some cavemen learned to do a spear and he had a technological breakthrough but after a while everybody had spears and it was back to who's the strongest. Then again with fire, swords, etc.

      The post is not to say that only muscle matters, but rather females are attracted (or make themselves attracted) to the male who embodies their best chance of survival at the moment.

      [–]1by1is3 7 points8 points  (9 children)

      While muscles and strength are important, intelligence is very high up there that increases attractiveness. A skinny cave-nerd could invent a trap or find innovative ways to hunt or defend would prove very useful to the tribe thereby increasing his status amongst other men (and logically attractiveness to females). He may never become the top dog but he would prove very useful to the top dog and may even get the alphas side bitches to procreate. This at least is very evident from the fact that humans have gotten more and more intelligent with every generation and have left all other animal species far behind. If intelligence was not attractive, it would have been rooted out by evolution but it was not.

      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Even in Chimpanzess the alpha male is not always the strongest. It’s equally physical strength and politics. The strongest male can always be overthrown if everyone hates him. He just gets surrounded and killed.

      The successful male chimp is physically strong and also cultivates a strong network of allies through mutual grooming and food sharing. Blood ties help too.

      [–]1by1is3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Exactly, there are lot of factors at play here than just size.. I don't like it when a lot of people is simply say size is everything, it's not. If a guy in the ancient world was intelligent, he could predict the movement of the stars, the seasons, the prey, and invent a new religion. People listened to intelligent men (and quite literally made them their leader) if they possessed attributes that put them in a unique position from which others would derive benefit.

      [–]Dravous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      well you're describing the beta male, which is a hated thing on TRP but in the past it wasn't as bad of a gig. the alpha was the leader but wasn't a dick who fucked over and killed the beta any chance he got, they worked together as a team. there was mutual respect. and the beta still got action. not as often and not the best(i.e. fertile) action, but he wasn't just out in the cold. sometimes the alpha would even direct females to provide him some, as he needed his team on their game, not thirsty, distracted, and resentful.

      for the record, the betas are not really discussed in this story, as they were the other hunters that went with chadrock. bobnick was the omega.

      [–]dontgiveupcarib 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The very fact that mammals could out compete reptiles and amphibians after the last giant meteor hit is a testament to intelligence being the most advantageous trait.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      You're describing the "primitive" version of BB, which is an alternative strategy to AF. BB do have kids of their own too, it's just that they are the secondary choice of women when it comes to sex.

      And just for the spergs reading this - no, I'm not endorsing the concept of becoming BB in order to have sex.

      [–]1by1is3 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      It's a bit more nuanced than that, you don't need to be the biggest or the baddest to be the leader, you simply need enough physicality and enough intelligence to become alpha. Just being the biggest or the strongest is useless if you cannot cultivate alliances within the tribe, and it requires a certain level of intelligence to do that. 5 other humans can gang up and beat the biggest alpha to death if he cannot use his brain to know that he cannot rule alone

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      [–]seducter 5 points6 points  (7 children)

      What does a modern day Chad do if he finds his Jane in the sack with another dude? I mean on the one hand you wanna knock some sense into him, but at the same time, he could easily be you at any given time.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 16 points17 points  (5 children)

      A true Alpha doesn't hit the guy: that's not his fault, also he kinda did you a favor by exposing the behaviour of your girl. I would personally give him a high five and offer him a beer.

      A true Alpha doesn't hit the girl either: that would be giving her attention, the opportunity to play the victim, and too much power to use in the legal system. Instead you wipe her out of your mind immediately, turn around and never think about her again.

      [–]seducter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      This is such a great answer, thanks man!

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      He does the only thing he can do - he utilizes Homo Sapiens greatest quality that allowed it to take over the world. He adapts to his environment. He finds a new Jane.

      Chad in our story had at most a few dozen Janes to choose from. You have essentially infinite.

      [–]Adeus_Ayrton 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Way, waaay longer than 200k years man. Oldest tools found in caves are over 3 million years old now.

      And the more we look, the older they get. And dig this: We've hunted longer than we've had tools. This story could easily push 5 million years; literally.

      [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (6 children)

      Then the dry season comes and chadrock can no longer sustain his large mass. When he tries to take water and food from the others who require less they kick him out the tribe to die. Bobnick 2 son of bobnick and Jane leads the tribe to water to become the new alpha. Not based on his size but his knowledge, the women are facisinated by his knowledge and instinct. Etc etc

      You can make up any bullshit for this.

      [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      You understand there are lots of different climates on this planet, yes? Take particular note of the migration patterns of early humans. They went from warm, drier places to cooler, wetter places.

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        [–]Chaddeus_Rex 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        Its irrelevant to us how baboons are (if they actually are as the article say and its not cherrypicking of facts to fit a certsin ideology - I will explain later). As Chimps are our closest relatives. And chimps act exactly as the post describes.

        [–]Dravous 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        post hoc speculation.

        well what else could it be? it already happened and nobody wrote anything down....that doesn't mean it's all just completely pulled out of our collective asses.

        [–]Colbster82 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        I'm new to TRP and this post has honestly enlightened me. I can absolutely visualize and relate to the undertones of this story. It's crazy actually and I can't quite explain it but thank you, this honestly helped me tremendously.

        It all fucking makes sense now

        [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        I really appreciate, thanks. I know when I started to think of males and females from an evolutionary perspective it cleared everything up for me too. Glad it wasn't only me.

        [–]Colbster82 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Will you be making more? Perhaps exploring different aspects of TRP, like shit tests, comfort tests etc.?

        (There's a lot of comments here so I apologize if you have already answered this type of question)

        [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I had the idea to do another one like that, as you said to illustrate other female traits. As redpillers are seeing it for what it is, and not some alpha porn fantasy, yeah I'll probably do it.

        [–]whoismikejoneswho 6 points7 points  (4 children)

        Bravo OP, we need to start a discussion group on these stories. If we dig deeper and really understand how Uma FELT, when Jane exposed her rancid shit stank butthole-vag to Bobnick, we could theorize how Bobnick could have potentially triangulated the situation into an awesome last hurrah threesome, which would have made him the alpha hero and made his untimely death worth it. Just thoughts...

        [–]youlovethisish 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        which would have made him the alpha hero

        In his own mind. He's still a beta to the dude that just smashed his head in - and everyone else. Once he's dead no one will think a second time about him.

        But he'd have died in the absolute happiest possible emotional state he could have.

        [–]TheWooginator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I lost it at Chadrock. Lol. Nicely done.

        [–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (5 children)

        She smiles and winks seductively at him. She hates this useless fucker, but if the boys don’t come back from the hunt he’ll be the only male available to protect the tribe.

        is this why most women keep betas around ( other than the resources they now provide)?

        it would make sense if the world suddenly went to war or we had another flu epidemic.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        If the beta orbiter is a good prospect (good job and coming from a good family, etc) sometimes women are dead-cold calculators. But I think that most of the time, it just boils down to women being creatures moved by validation, and just like a man will flex his muscles just to feel his strength, a women will act seductively to a guy just to feel hers. They need to feel pretty and attractive, they don't think much about consequences for the guy because they live in their own world.

        [–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        thanks man was well written

        [–]dulkemaru51 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        You're probably right. Then again, the need for validation that people have (indication of one's worth, be it in terms of looks or whatever), is a good evolutionary trick, in this example for women, to keep providers by her side. The validation feels good emotionally (evolved property of her limbic system that exists only because of it's survivability factor), so she keeps orbiters around because in Jane's times that helped her survive in case of Chadrock being eaten by a bear.

        What feels good = good for survival

        Validation feels good = keeping orbiters around that give validation = good for survival

        [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Yep totally agree. Women having this validation need is good for the reproduction of the species. If they didn't wear sexy clothes or makeup, men would pursue them less.

        Personally I love it that women look for men's attention. It makes life more entertaining and enticing. And as they don't have physical strength as we do, we can't really judge them for using what other means are available to them.

        [–]FakeOyen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I love the point and lesson of this post but the story is reductive for me. Still, having said that, i want to thank you for posting.

        [–]Lucid_Witness 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        You write well. You should present more primordial exemplary stories.

        Edit: By the way, it would be much more ancient than two hundred thousand years. Similar behaviours would be prior to our species. The scenario from your story would have its origins in ancestors of previous species of our same genus.

        [–]DeeplyDisturbed1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Holy. Fucking. Shit. This is pure gold brother.

        [–]JudgeDoom69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Bobnick is the founder of modern Approach Anxiety

        [–]anish610 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        More such stories would be appreciated. Through stories Redpill philosophy can be shared. Also it's very interesting to read such stories.

        [–]zcgk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Funny, while I read this post/story, my brain illustrated it in the style of that heavy metal movie from the 80's

        [–]rougeoblong 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Quest For Fire - 1981 - first draft

        (also a fantastic RP movie for the collection)

        [–]Frritz--Th3--Cat 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Early Men and Women were equal. Men and Women hunter gatherers hunted together and raised children together. These were not split by gender. Also they formed monogamous relationships. These were the main traits that separated us from Chimps. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/14/early-men-women-equal-scientists

        [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        That's interesting but I think the title is misleading. The article mentions that it was advantageous for humans to build strongly connected communities where women played a major role.

        A study has shown that in contemporary hunter-gatherer tribes, men and women tend to have equal influence on where their group lives and who they live with

        I believe this, but it doesn't mean that women hunted as you suggest. I think it talks more about a more equalitarian social fabric of the group, while I admit my post is pretty much macho-oriented.

        Also it's just one study.

        [–]Frritz--Th3--Cat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The findings appear to be supported by qualitative observations of the hunter-gatherer groups in the study. In the Philippines population, women are involved in hunting and honey collecting and while there is still a division of labour, overall men and women contribute a similar number of calories to the camp. In both groups, monogamy is the norm and men are active in childcare.

        This is what I am referencing. There are many studies that have come from these sources.

        [–]1Zanford 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This, men, is the real shit.

        You have just learned more than you did every history or literature class you ever took, combined, and with no lies or bullshit.

        This is it. This is all we are.

        [–]forallmyfans2 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

        this is a bunch of made up horse shit

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Yea obviously... it is a speculative hypothesis of pre-modern humans’ mating systems. That’s what intelligent people do. They use their brains to think abstractly based on available evidence to solve problems and answer questions.

        [–]forallmyfans2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        there was no evidence or hypothesis, its just some cave man porn fanfic. 50 shades of gray for trp.

        [–]SKRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You forgot about the infants and the mortality rates - they didn't have pills and condoms back then. Just include them, a couple of rival tribes, some wild predators and harsh weather and then it's complete.

        [–]dustman83 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        We read this story in my high school anthropology class

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