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Red Pill TheoryAccept that all women desire to have a dick inside of them, no matter how cute and innocent they seem to be. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1ozaku7

In my time as the true Billy Beta, I would believe that women aren't pieces of meat who should be treated like princesses and all that, and in the end it got as far as not chasing them for my desire to get my dick inside of them, but to show them I have more to offer than that, and that if they wanted sex, they would come to me. Eventually it came down to that I put myself in a submissive position where women had to take the lead where they wanted the dating period to go. It was as clear as the sky that this didn't work at all.

Looking from a natural perspective, and not from the caveman ages but purely on all living beings, we are ALL the product of sexual reproduction, the male sticking it inside of the female. Physical attraction includes your desire to have sex with women that are physically attractive to you, which makes it okay to judge internally people on their looks and only date those you find physically attractive. Yet also, you should not be fooled by the cute and innocent women of which you think you can't fuck them as hard as the slut next door.

It is a truth preached even by women and by people outside of the TRP domain, but many men fail to understand that. It is natural for women to crave a cock inside of them, as much as it is natural for a man to want to have sex.

So next time you are talking to any woman, just imagine that your cock in her mouth or any of the 3 holes is just completely normal and natural, as much as talking to her that very moment. Sex is eventually nothing but a higher stage of social interaction, to the point where you feel like inviting her home as if it's the most normal thing in the world and bang each other to get off and have a good night sleep.

It's perfectly natural to crave sexual interaction with the other gender, but don't put it on a pedastal. Chase it, but don't overvalue it. So next time when you are interacting with a woman, you will realize that once you drop that value of sex it is so much easier and comfortable to interact with them, get closer , more intimate and all that. All the while you are still welcoming the opportunity of having sex and fucking each others brain out.


[–]newls 215 points216 points  (10 children)

Paging /u/Rollo-Tomassi... I may be paraphrasing but I think these are relevant extracts from TRM.

"Women will fuck. They may not fuck me, they may not fuck you, but they will fuck someone."

"That innocent 'good girl' you met at church is just as hypergamous as the girl who fucked the pool boy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break."

AWALT.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 80 points81 points  (5 children)

Why wouldn't anyone go for the best they can attain? Why would some men just settle with average if they could get a much better woman? Because men offer themselves to women and stop as soon as they find one. Men settle because they don't want to do so much effort all their life to find something better, because it's not worth the additional effort. Women just need to wait for a man to approach them and they pick the best one of them. If they get dumped or dump their man, all they need to do is to look pretty and go to places where single men would approach them. A married man doesn't approach and isn't being approached, a married woman is approached all the time, chances thrown in her face to fuck that better man and down the line she tells her girlfriends that "it just happened". Which is exactly why women believe they are not at fault because they didn't show any significant effort to chase it, while a man would have to actively seek it.

The investment a woman needs to put in finding a man is probably just 1/10 of what a man would need to do. Besides, the only men women would approach are the Top 5%, and are just interested in the Top 20%.

[–]cybercipher 80 points81 points  (2 children)

"Our great danger in life is not that we aim too high and fail, but that we aim too low and succeed." - TRM

[–]1ozaku7[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's a shitty quote. It should be "But that we are content with less than we can achieve".

[–]Neo2Trinity 6 points7 points  (0 children)

For many men it's an uphill battle. Most/all responsibility is on the man in the dating game. It's not even that men are too lazy to learn the rules of the game, but rather that they don't even know what to do. And it doesn't help that communities like this one are thoroughly shamed even by many men.

If a woman is reasonably attractive, she has swarms of men coming to her. Now this is a problem too in that she has to make a lot of choices on a daily basis. However, it's hard for me to have too much sympathy. Especially when most women take this for granted.

[–]AussiecuntTRP 7 points8 points  (1 child)

So true man. Women no longer have to fear being stoned to death for cheating or having sex out of wed lock. Any other consequence of them having sex they can deal with. That's why the religious girls are the same as any other girl.

[–]newls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what the feminine imperative has succeeded in doing to society in the last 50 years. Maximized female hypergamy.

They have their pick of the best alphas when they're young.

They have online dating to artificially inflate the sexual market value of sub-par women.

They have a society-backed shaming machine at the ready for any man with the temerity to date a girl in her early twenties when he's in his mid-thirties.

They have their pick of the reformed nerds who are now pulling six figures as developers when they reach their epiphany and decide their days of hot alpha sex are behind them.

Maximized female hypergamy.

[–][deleted] 209 points210 points  (31 children)

inb4 "Accept that all women poop and fart, no matter how cute and innocent they seem to be."

I mean is this really news?

[–]Hltchens 109 points110 points  (29 children)

Apparently it is for the virgin portion of this sub that buy into the Bible bullshit and the ubiquitous Christian stance that women are beautiful fragile flowers who never think perverted things, that and have to be kept at home. Or Muslims that buy into similar bullshit too.

[–]Bocaj6487 47 points48 points  (6 children)

It's the Churchian stance for sure, but it's definitely not what you'll find in the Bible.

[–]Librehombre 21 points22 points  (4 children)

true,, jesus never put a woman on a pedestal.

Woman are always seen in a patriarchy in the bible, new or old testaments.

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    [–]in_progress_ 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Red piller by reddit or by life experience?

    [–]Fabel789 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    she's a criminal lawyer make a guess

    [–]in_progress_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Holy shit.

    I never knew a truly RPW btw.

    [–]1StinkyDiaper 21 points22 points  (13 children)

    Apparently it is for the virgin portion of this sub that buy into the Bible bullshit and the ubiquitous Christian stance that women are beautiful fragile flowers who never think perverted things, that and have to be kept at home. Or Muslims that buy into similar bullshit too.

    Women DO act this way.

    Towards beta males.

    [–]1ozaku7[S] 14 points15 points  (4 children)

    Only because women don't want to be judged for being who they are, so they put up a mask which shows men what men want them to be. You are basically desiring something that isn't there, but you get it in the form of a widespread lie. Much like the woman in the "saving the best for last" post from the sidebar, she showed dear hubby the side that he wanted to see, the innocent vanilla woman, not that side of her that she had a gangbang videotaped in college.

    That entire post is a big misinterpretation because she went as far as he would respect him. You should know how much women open up if you convince them and show that you don't judge whatsoever and you are open to anything. Suddenly they confess their real n-count, their escapades they "never counted", and all the stuff they are into. Many of that is hidden because the man simply wouldn't be able to handle it.

    These days, a beta is someone who is living a lie, and the alpha has seen the truth.

    [–]ThrowFader 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Women are two faced as fuck, even toward relatively put together men.

    I saw some girls scheming on a dude, but once the guy got close they acted like they were best friends. I wasn't surprised at all.

    [–]Neo2Trinity 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Much like the woman in the "saving the best for last" post from the sidebar

    That haunts me to this day. Something I wonder is what the average person (man or woman) would think of that post.

    [–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Have it read to your friends like "Look what I found on the internets". Honestly, the only one at fault is the man in this case. Just accept that women love sex, as love to be banged by 5 men as much as you like to be banged by 5 women at once.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 15 points16 points  (2 children)

    If only we were on a forum designed to help beta males see the world as it is, then maybe OPs post makes sense.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That is exactly what this forum is abou.... Ah

    [–]Fabel789 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Had a good date friday with a 8/10 classy cougar (me 30/ she 38), put her against the wall fuck her. Her thanking reaction, "God yes!!!! But men like this are always bad." Constantly complains about drama, bad boys and mind games. Next day she texts me coked up and drunk as fuck, and pretty much commands me to take a taxi and drive her home. Today I get insulted for giving her good advice. hypocrites. They want to be fucked in a context and create their own fantasy where they are not portraited as sluts just craving for cock.

    [–]OhhDatDogOMine 12 points13 points  (3 children)

    She is 38 yet "8/10".

    She is "classy" yet coked up and wasted.

    [–]Fabel789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Out of all 38 year old women I know I put her in the top 20%, get it? She seemed to be yes, good family, well spoken and educated. Not to forget her good taste and elegance, but it's all fucking fake :)

    [–]bl1871 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Dude , they play that part too trying to "act" pious and disinterested thus the accurate term and description of a shit test, your absolutely right though it's bullshit.

    [–]Neo2Trinity 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    It's also just the artificialness of our society where the women we see on magazine covers have professional makeup artists and photographers to make them look as glamorous as possible. Then women follow their lead and spend thousands of dollars on makeup over the course of their lifetime. Men then buy into this fantasy too and all want a pornstar girlfriend. We really are living in The Matrix.

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      [–]DamiensLust 13 points14 points  (3 children)

      grow up. you wanted to fuck women but lost attraction when you found out that women like to fuck too? sure you did buddy, definitely wasn't because you just found out they didn't want to fuck you before you "lost interest" now was it?

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          [–]Darth_Toenail 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I think avoiding STDs and unnecessary drama is making the best of it. Not to say I'd abstain from sex entirely but I can totally understand davebrain's disgust at making chasing tail a priority, when the last guy's cum is probably still sloshing around in there.

          [–]EM6666 34 points35 points  (2 children)

          One sentence in and added it to saved posts.

          It really is bizarre how easy it is to slip back in to BP thinking. That's what keeps me coming back to this sub. The need to continually hammer home and remind myself of even the basics.

          The BP indoctrination is impossible to escape without constant vigilance.

          [–]sd4c 15 points16 points  (2 children)

          Except on antidepressants. Both men and women can lose their entire drive on high enough doses. It’s actually prescribed off-label for premature enders.

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            [–]MaxDMJ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            I was on those drugs for awhile and my sex drive went to hell. I had been reading TRP for awhile before I started taking em and so I was consciously thinking that I should want sex and going after women, but it threw my game completely off because I didn't even really want to fuck em if I was on that shit.

            [–]Chaddeus_Rex 28 points29 points  (10 children)

            Thanks for the post man. For a long time, I had hangups about sex - in particular, I thought it was "shameful"/"bad"/"dirty" and felt guilt when engaging in sexual acts. In fact, I gave up quite a few sexual opportunities with willing girls because of this. One of these girls I met on OkCupid and left shortly after banging her because i felt "dirty" and "ashamed". Another opportunity that I gave up because of this was with a cute brown girl from one of my classes who gave me her number and then texted me a few days later (I was gonna text her myself, but I guess she couldn't wait). I set up a date with her and when we hung out, one thing led to another - and we fooled around (couldn't bang that day). After that day, she'd send me nudes of herself really trying to show off her tits and ass and would send me pictures of how wet she was after finger banging herself. I gave up this opportunity too because I got scared/felt ashamed and dirty again. Fuck this social conditioning thing that tells men sex is bad.

            It took me a while to get over it and it helped realizing that my parents essentially lied to me and that people in their generation where horny fucks as well, judging by the stories i heard my uncle telling about their sexcapades back in the day.

            What I learned is that I should trust my gut - if i feel horny or sexual interest for a woman, that is a perfectly normal and valid feeling to experience and demonstrate to her.

            [–]1ozaku7[S] 4 points5 points  (8 children)

            It's rather that parents don't want their kids to knock up someone or get knocked up at the age of 16, and what's easier than shaming them and damaging them for years to come?

            [–]Chaddeus_Rex 16 points17 points  (7 children)

            It's rather that parents don't want their kids to knock up someone or get knocked up at the age of 16

            Or they could teach them how to engage in sex without knocking someone up and teach them a modicum of self control.....

            [–]1ozaku7[S] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

            They could, but they still make mistakes. How often have you heard about "pulling out method" or thinking that one time without doesn't hurt? People do stupid shit, can't take contraceptives normally as they are intended. Even women forget to swallow the pill for a day or two, compensate it by taking three on the third day and so on. Especially teenagers are retarded because they have no sense of time called "lifetime".

            [–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            People wouldn't make such mistakes if they were taught about sex from a young age and it was as much a part of life as being potty trained.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Idk i was taught alot about safe sex and i still do the pull out method on the reg

            [–]destraht 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            A lot of men just lack the self-control to pull out before getting those last five strokes in there. Its definitely not 100% but to pull out properly you really need to be out there sooner than you want. I'll take that 99% of the experience without a condom over that very last bit. The next time you are hanging out with your buddies take a look at each of them and try to imagine which of them would have the self-control to at least do the technique properly and which of them are just walking lizard brains. I have a one friend whom I chuckle at the thought of him pulling out effectively.

            [–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I know one that always gets pregnancy scares but never learns and just repeats the pull out method until she will probably end up pregnant.

            [–]Neo2Trinity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Fuck this social conditioning thing that tells men sex is bad

            Yeah. I hate how feminists act like only women feel shame around sex.

            [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 88 points89 points  (49 children)

            Well....it's a lot more nuanced and 'dangerous' to just give in to base-level sexual drivers now more than ever. As you get older, you begin to wonder if women really do enjoy sex, because in retrospect, you will notice that EVERY sexual act was a long game/short game strategy for her.

            The [almost universal] 'dead bedroom' of post-marriage, would posit that women DO NOT enjoy sex as a man can understand it. It is more like the good feeling of walking away after getting a good deal on the purchase of a car etc.

            Don't fool yourself.

            [–]3nebder 109 points110 points  (31 children)

            Women enjoy getting fucked hard by the man they find attractive at the moment. Don’t confuse dutysex with desired sex. You’re correct that dutysex is a bargaining chip.

            I did my time in a low sex marriage. I’d get “lucky” during ovulation. Here’s the rub, she was getting laid a helluva lot more during our marriage than I was. My actions (weight gain, shit frame, vidya) led to me being unattractive to her. I don’t hold that against her, that’s all on me.

            Fast forward to now, skinny and sexy me gets hit up to fuck by women. I learned how to dick em good and they love it. Sex God Method is required reading. I always held back my desires to choke, pull hair or be forceful to my special princess ex. She would never want that I thought. Guess what, it’s universal in women to want a man to dominate her up to the edge of her acceptable levels.

            [–]greatamericancities 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            So many good points in this reply:

            1. How attracted she is depends on "the moment". The same woman will have wildly different levels of attraction to the same man, depending on the situation.

            2. If an action is viewed as a "duty" rather than a free choice it will be much less attractive to her.

            3. Duty sex is a bargaining chip. The prize is something else and the sex is the payment. You want the sex with you to be the prize.

            4. If she loses attraction to you it might be your fault. I say "might be" because there is always a statistical element in life: Other things change and this is beyond your control. What is in your control is where you should focus. Prepare the ground and increase your odds of success, then let go of the outcome.

            5. Taking responsibility is crucial. It is the first step to real improvement and success. It is the "reality principle" applied to your own situation. See any "twelve step program" -- they always start here.

            6. Good service keeps them coming back for more. Small businessmen know this from experience.

            7. Women want to be desired by a worthy man. They gauge desire by passionate, almost uncontrolled sex. "I was so excited by her that I couldn't restrain myself." Passion can easily be faked so the woman is looking for an honest expression.

            [–]_MysticFox 24 points25 points  (24 children)

            choke, pull hair, be forceful

            How many times can you do this without the same 3 things becoming old to her?

            [–]cameralover1 36 points37 points  (21 children)

            Just add variations. Sometimes you put her on top of you with her bare ass and spank her like she was a little girl. Sometimes you just throw her around and fuck her prone bone. Sometimes you just push her head a little bit more when she's blowing you. There are a thousand different ways to show dominance apart from the choke, pull hair, typical shit.

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              [–]3nebder 13 points14 points  (17 children)

              Why are you fighting the resource given to you.

              You also learn from yourself. Do the shit you always wanted to do, but we’re too afraid of upsetting or offending your “special pure princess” partner.

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                [–]3nebder 19 points20 points  (15 children)

                Quick look at your history. Your challenge is that you haven’t internalized that you are the fucking prize. Your worried about making impressions when you should be worried about dicking her good for your personal pleasure and she gets to come along for the ride.

                12 different sources won’t help you. Action is what you need, not 17 different minutely different books.

                Look at yourself in the mirror. Look deep in your eyes and say I’m an amazing badass motherfucker. People fight to get me in their lives. I am the king of my world. Repeat it over and over again. Get in the superman power pose when you do it. Get off the internet now, and go do that. Do it every morning until you don’t need to anymore.

                Idgaf if it’s true right this moment or not. Once you make it true in your head, that’s the reality you project aka frame you have. Act like a king to be treated like a king.

                My mantra was “Look at me. I am liquid sex”. I still cue myself with “I am liquid sex” when I get out of my car to go into a venue if I’m not fully up to snuff. It sets my posture, confidence, walk and vibe. I’m naturally an introvert so I have to build energy to socialize.

                SGM and some actual getting your dick wet experience is all you need. You’ll get better as you go. Also it takes 3-5 sexual encounters before you really get calibrated with your partner. That’s why I don’t care for ONS sex.

                [–]almostshredded 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                What does liquid sex even mean tho

                [–]3nebder 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                Means nothing to you, everything to me. Rolled off my tongue better than I am distilled sex.

                It’s a cue. Same as squat cues like pin your elbows to your sides or keep the bar in the slot.

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                  [–]3nebder 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                  Chad is a caricature. It’s a relative concept. You can be one gals Chad but not a different gal. Girls can be like lifting. Start low and work your way up. Work on your game and frame on some of the wallflowers or the chubby 4-5s. Experience is the best teacher of social interactions. Don’t go into landwhale territory for your self respect and social image. Serial monogamy may be your thing. That’s an acceptable strategy.

                  My man, you are facing your own self-limiting beliefs in yourself. Objectively re-read what you just wrote. I cannot control your mental origin. I can tell you what I infer and offer a bit of guidance. I cannot actually do it for you.

                  I gave you actionable advice to improve your frame. It’s one step of many. It worked for me. It may or may not work for you. You won’t know if you don’t try. At one point, I was in a bad headspace not unlike your own. Over time with failures and successes, I was able to get myself turned around.

                  Value comes from yourself. That’s the value you have to offer. Can you show that you’re important to yourself? Can you hold frame when she starts giving you shit? Can you make decent enough jokes and wisecracks to get her to laugh? Can you hold a passable conversations and small talk when it’s in the fluff phase? I make a game of getting cashiers to smile when I check out. Some small talk and light jokes. Nothing sexual, not trying to game them. Simply adding a moment of value to their day. That’s value: making people feel good and happy. You don’t need anything external like hobbies or money to do that. At the end of the day, you can only get so far without just putting yourself out there, fucking up and adjusting for the next time.

                  You’re in the same candy store. Put your candy on the shelf so the right buyer can get it.

                  That’s enough raa-raa bs. Just fucking do it man.

                  [–]cashmoney_x -1 points0 points  (7 children)

                  It's because "you're the prize" is bullshit for 80% of men. Gender dynamics make it so. The rest is hamstering.

                  [–]_MysticFox 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Where do you find those ways?

                  [–]cameralover1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I can't talk for all guys here, but if you want my personal experience it was through girls. One of my first girls said she fantasized about being spanked (this was all way before it was popular for girls to be open about wanting to be choked and shit) and I just kept asking her what other things she wanted once we did the last. First girl talked about being spanked, being choked, being tied and then having me cum all over her. After that there was a second girl that told me about spanking and I just figured out that she wanted similar stuff to first girl. Asked second girl and for example she liked stuff like me playing with ice and her pussy, another form of control and dominance. Then just took it off from there, I will use shit I learned with other girls with new girls and it wont be long before you notice that there is a very clear trend about what they like. Something none of them have ever told me but they all love is orgasm denial. Fuck them like there was no tomorrow or lick them or whatever but stop right when they are about to cum. They will get mad at you and ask you why did you do that, just tell them you are in complete control now and will decide when and how they will cum.

                  [–]rp_flyingfuck 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                  mix it up:

                  don't do the same thing everytime you have sex with her.

                  first of all slowly introduce her into you being dominant and harder sex and then do it random:

                  a. just pull her hair and do dirty talk and fuck her hard

                  b. spank and tease her before entering then fuck her normal with some spanks etc.

                  c. choke her while fucking her slow then finish her with short fast and hard fucking and fingering her at the same time...

                  after some time you will do these things naturally and find more variations so it won't ever be boring for either of you

                  [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                  It is too much of the feminine "eat, pray, love" mindset to believe that women are just men without penises and they love sex for the raw pounding of every desirable man. It's really hard to wrap your mind around it, but sex is different for men/women.

                  Also, do not accept the feminine narrative that you deserved to get cheated on by your wife because you became overweight/omega/weak.....or translated to the wife's "I'm unhappy" speech. No where in life can a person freely get away with this kind of immoral behavior except in the family courts. Violation of trust is a crime in EVERY other aspect of life.

                  Hey I get it, I'm a creative, attractive type guy that fucks and continues to fuck a lot of women. But it's getting really risky....I stay in contact with last lady I choke-fucked and continue flatter/charm her because a jilted woman can wipe your life out in an instant. Women will do this, men almost always will not. Different sexual strategies.....different brain wiring.

                  [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                  Different hormone levels. It is science that men desire sex more. We think about it more. It's because we have so much more testosterone.

                  [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  we can start injecting them with T, and then be fucking chicks with beards!

                  Win/win....

                  [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  If chicks had as much T, the streets would be empty. It would be like the whole world was was having as much sex as gay dudes.

                  [–]1ozaku7[S] 6 points7 points  (10 children)

                  We are talking here about the initial investment, not 10 years down the road where your sexual behaviour becomes so predictable to her that she can just fall asleep and time her moaning in her sleep to satisfy you.

                  [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 18 points19 points  (9 children)

                  Men are always sexually predictable....virtually retarded in their drive. I suppose my point is that: Even in the beginning, the game is....you get to fuck her in every position imaginable and blow your load all over her face....the next day she gets to post a photo on facebook of you two ice skating together. Your reward was the sex itself, hers was the photo that was made possible by the sex.

                  Truly do a forensic exam of your past life and you'll see this pattern....it is the reality of the two different sexual strategies. She may "enjoy" sex, but not like you understand it.

                  [–]1ozaku7[S] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

                  Well, I for one like iceskating, so it's a win-win for me. When her drive for sex stops I might still be going to these other places I like, which includes between the legs of other women if she hasn't satisfied my need regularly. It's that simple.

                  [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 7 points8 points  (5 children)

                  ....and honestly, that is the best strategy for a man to have. Move on to the next flavor! This was true 100,000 years ago as it is today.

                  After two marriages/two divorces, I've always refused to be the "beta provider"....from me, they get sex and intelligent/attractive children. But that's a story for another time....

                  [–]1ozaku7[S] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                  What all women want is a sperm donor that can finance raising their kids and keeping the teenager you married under his thumb.

                  Even modern mothers in the 40's and 50's are telling me that if I ever get kids, it's only important until they are like 10 years old. Then I can get out of the hellhole called cohabitation and lead my own life.

                  They basically admitted that modern young women in their 20's are mostly garbage.

                  [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  They are being honest. What most all the Red Pill community assumes on these manosphere forums is that all men on here are betas. I'm not, nor have I ever been a blue pill/beta. In fact, I've never had a 'dead bedroom'....just the opposite in fact. They viewed me as their fuck machine, baby maker, and manager of all the things they didn't want to understand. What both of my ex-wives wanted in the end was a "best friend"; aka the beta male. It comes off as contrived to start bringing them breakfast or sending them flowers every other day when you've been the alpha the whole relationship. It just didn't work. At the same time I was very empathetic towards them in my own way. An old school man....I can't change.

                  Perhaps it's that they are never satisfied now, because they truly do not know what they want.

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                    [–]alxjones 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    woah, easy tiger. those may not be his words. let’s not shoot the messenger here

                    [–]1ozaku7[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    I'm trying to say that if the LTR with kids turns out to be garbage, I may stick it out until they are 10 and just bounce. I will still be in their lives but I will go more my own way and leave the independency on the kids. Dickwad.

                    [–]ki6840 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    The billion dollar sex appliance industry would disagree with that wouldn't they ?...also are you saying that after her 4 or 5th orgasm she hasn't enjoyed it ? I don't agree I think women enjoy sex a hell of a lot. In the same way men do maybe more.

                    [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    No. Women spend their money on romance novels and movies by huge margins. Polls show that women overwhelmingly do not use dildos etc. Again, sex toys & videos are a male interpretation of what women want sexually.

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                        [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                        Yes, it is this delusion that men have, that women are men without a penis....that they have a strong carnal drive like us that propels their lives. They don't. If they did, there wouldn't be dead bedrooms, since they would NEED sex one way or another....the easier the better.

                        It's more like a backrub for them, take it or leave it. Sort of like my [newest] girlfriend, that gets off more by me insisting that she smear her pussy/cum all over my face....rather than the orgasm itself...her one dominant act all day.

                        Seriously guys...females will NEVER enjoy sex on your level. Accept it.

                        [–]Ptoss 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        This makes sense. However sex looks so much more intense and pleasurable from the woman's side. You are getting rod like objects stuffed into your stomach. So I dont know what to believe anymore.

                        [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        "getting rod like objects stuffed into your stomach" ughh...more like an alien abduction story!

                        [–]futmut 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                        To be honest there is not a single chance on earth that women desire sex as much as men do...Ive heard it way too many times but it is just bs...Otherwise they wouldnt patiently wait to get used by a random Chad in the vain hope to have him to commit to her but they would rather choose even a Beta which is kinda good in bed...This does not happen.

                        [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        they fuck betas all the time. plenty of pussified pretty nanyboys out there. also, broads are not in full time mode searching for a permanent partner either. they won't fuck a beta like you, but they'll fuck a beta that is good looking to them and/or has money (think potential future beta hubby material). of course they'll always choose the more alpha guy, but if one is not around and they need dick, some orbiter always gets lucky. go live on college campus, you'll see this dynamic all day.

                        [–]1OneRedSock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Don't confuse a woman's desire for dick and sex drive. It's like comparing a distance to a velocity.

                        Certainly, women have a lower sex drive than men; as this is based on testosterone levels. But that doesn't mean women are inherently not craving the dick; they crave the dick. They just don't think about craving the dick as often as men think about craving the pussy.

                        You are right, though: a big BP myth is that women have as much sex drive as a man. They don't; again, this is rooted in biology. Of course, this is excluding psychological cases like hypersexuality (nymphomania); which can be a symptom for those with BPD.

                        [–]brinkleybuzz 20 points21 points  (2 children)

                        I learned this as a teen when I found out from the source that the cute, wholesome cheerleader in my neighborhood who I dreamed of someday becoming my girlfriend was raw dogging and blowing the neighborhood scumbag weed dealer.

                        Every woman is a slut for the right man.

                        After I figured this out I started to get laid on a regular basis because I began to assume that every chick naturally wants to hop on someone's cock so it might as well be mine. Escalating became easier with this attitude.

                        [–]Serocco -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

                        Isn't every man himself a slut for the right woman?

                        [–]omega_dawg93 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                        lol at OP. wtf? who told you, or why did you think women do not want dick inside of them?

                        hetero women love & crave dick... waaay more than you think and way more than they'll admit to anyone except themselves and their closest friends.

                        and trust me, they use their mouths, vaginas, and assholes to satisfy their craving to be penetrated, but never forget this... they also USE those same three holes to also secure TAR (time + attention + resources) from the most alpha guy they can attract.

                        last thing: "it doesn't count," is REAL to them. it means they can EASILY give up sex and when done, wipe it out from their memory. see girl's nite out, girl's vacation, and girl's shopping weekends.

                        if they don't talk about it, they don't 'feel' about it... so it never happened. and to them, it never really happened. and they will look you in the eye and say, "only 4 guys," and MEAN it because they've wiped the other 21 guys from their feelings. "it didn't count!!!"

                        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                        Women live for sex. Men at least have other things on their minds like cars, computers, guns and beer.

                        [–]Work_In_Progress92 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                        Good post, just reiterates AWALT..which I seem to post a bit about so once again...AWALT...

                        [–]1ozaku7[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                        I'm slowly getting allergic to AWALT, because it's slowly proving itself to be a "everyone on the road is out there to kill you" defense mechanism. Enjoy the fucking ride instead of being terrified or all the time alarmed you might be killed on the road.

                        [–]SohithKumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        AWALT is the Reality. How you deal with it makes all the difference.

                        [–]MrCarepig 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                        Like that angel looking pornstar that starts licking some guys asshole. Lol

                        [–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                        What's the name of that Reddit sub where guys post videos of porn stars talking cute and are fully clothed set next to a video of them getting double pen'd or banged in the nastiest ways?

                        I think it's like cute girl/porn girl or something?

                        That shit will make Blue Pill Beta WKs cry rivers.

                        [–]BiteAndThrow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        CuteModeSlutMode

                        Is this it?

                        [–]justshootinblanks 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                        They all like raw dogging as well. Watch out for STDs fellas.

                        [–]MaxDMJ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        Well we all like raw dogging but I'd be willing to bet that (In most cases) that women DON'T want STDs or pregnancy more than they DO want you to go raw, same as men. Probably want you to wear a condom more than men do because it doesn't add as big of a difference to the woman.

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                        [–]HeavenlyMystery 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        Can confirm. I have this good girl friend of mine and she often thinks about these stuff.

                        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                        I'm with you until the final sentence. Science says otherwise.

                        [–]SeeminglyBlue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Yeah, my b. Just checked; guys do think about it more (statistically)

                        [–]1ozaku7[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                        Exactly. Now imagine being the innocent and cute woman about whom most men just don't think of having sex, because she is just too innocent and all that. Being treated like a fragile princess.

                        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                        Naw..we "alphas" will tear her holes into pieces lol

                        [–]1ozaku7[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                        Now you just sound like a degenerate.

                        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Lol thanks!! And If your not down with that....I got TWO WORDS 4 ya....

                        [–]Chaddeus_Rex 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                        Kinda curious, what are your thoughts when you see a man you want to approach you? Is it along the lines of "I'd like to see his dick"? What goes through you're mind?

                        [–]SeeminglyBlue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        “Oh hey, he’s pretty hot. Hey, dude, talk to me. You’re hot.” -usually something along those lines. If he actually talks to me, then it turns to sexual stuff if he wants to take it in that direction.

                        [–]Luckylancer96 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                        Title is hilarious. Who dont wants sex?

                        [–]1ozaku7[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        Any living creature. But imagine that there are plenty of men who think that the innocent ones want slow loving sex and pounding them to orgasmpolis is just disrespectful, which is just funny.

                        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        A little patrice wisdom that I think keeps this in perspective is that sex is about the same as a car having wheels. It's just a basic feature. Buying a car with no wheels is just dumb. But it is equally weird if someone selling a car made a big deal out of the fact that it has wheels, or if that was what sold you on the car.

                        [–]zapee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        OP just lost his virginity.

                        [–]TunedtoPerfection 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Honestly the "cute, innocent ones" are some of the most wild in bed. The most important aspect here is to realize that women, like men, are multi-dimensional. Just like us, they show the world one face, their close friends another, and still their passionate lovers another.

                        For some reason, a lot of men are blind to this, they see women as these one dimensional exotic creatures. They believe she will act the exact same behind closed doors as at a party. When you start coming across as a guy that "gets it" you'll see a much different side to women.

                        Just remember that "cute innocent" girl you didn't hit on because she was so innocent, most likely has tried or is currently trying to make money on a cam website, begged to have cum blasted on her tits and face, and/or loves to be toss on a bed and just taken for all she is worth.

                        [–]ThrowFader 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        I think this post hits it.

                        Instead of judging women for liking dick, why not just loosen up and accept that human beings like to fuck with each other?

                        I don't feel ashamed that I would like to fuck some girls that I talk to, and I'm glad to let her know if its appropriate.

                        If you are afraid to let a girl know you would like to fuck her, you are still BLUE PILLED as FUCK>

                        [–]thefisherman1961 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                        Regurgitating sidebar material are we?

                        [–]ThrowFader 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        useful because many idiots don't bother reading

                        [–]PabloAsscrowbar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        No woman is truly cute and innocent. Those that seem so are either sociopaths or crazies (with the potential of stalking and harassment).

                        [–]sendmeurnewdz 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                        [–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        Maybe because of biological reasons. You cum because your dickhead is being stimulated. The clitoris of a woman is basically what your dickhead is. While you are stimulating it nonstop, she is just getting your pelvis pounded against it.

                        Your ignorance of that fact is also the reason why most women you sleep with don't orgasm. Most women I had sex with had an orgasm while they were grinding their clit against my pelvis when I was inside her.

                        [–]bookloverphile 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                        Youre really smart bro, keep it up!

                        [–]djthiago1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                        And we wanna bang everyone. So what? Everybody likes sex. This isn't news..

                        [–]Biggie_Smores 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Yknow I've been wondering if TRP is just a cesspool of betas including their leaders.

                        The fact that this is a top post confirms. Everyone likes good sex regardless of their image.

                        [–]scepticferret 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I can relate to this took me till about 15 to fully accept all women have a pussy

                        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        What is the point of this post?? I haven't seen any good content in like a week. I need my fix of good TRP posts that make me think and have novel content.

                        [–]RylanBlackwood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        All women crave sperm in their uteruses. It's how they're wired.

                        [–]1ozaku7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Except there are betas who put women on a pedastal and believe that it's wrong to think this way about women.

                        [–]Kommanderdude 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        It amazes me that this is some kind of revelation for some men.

                        No shit Sherlock. Women are human beings with the genetic drive to procreate just like men. No shit they want sex.

                        [–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Except there are betas who put women on a pedastal and believe that it's wrong to think this way about women.

                        [–]elephantricity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I was fucking with this 10/10 18 year old and she was shy as fuck. When we fucked the first time is when I discovered she was a masochist. Total 180 from what I presumed she would be like in bed. Appearnces are never what they seem.

                        [–]SnowMonkeyCracker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        and not from the caveman ages but purely on all living beings, we are ALL the product of sexual reproduction,

                        Not factually accurate. However, your point is still valid.

                        [–]ollyollyollyoioioi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        The headline alone is enough to put you on twoxchromosones hitlist

                        [–]futmut 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        To be honest there is not a single chance on earth that women desire sex as much as men do...Ive heard it way too many times but it is just bs...Otherwise they wouldnt patiently wait to get used by a random Chad in the vain hope to have him to commit to her but they would rather choose even a Beta which is kinda good in bed...This do not happen.

                        [–]--Edog-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        The fact that it is harder for most men to get sex makes them even hornier. Imagine being able to drink water any time you wanted vs. Having to dig a well to get your dick wet.

                        [–]ZefirFML 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        what if i one year ago i was 16yo and my ex gf was 14yo, if i think of putting dick... nooo!!!