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Field ReportThe Dear Mother of My Child (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by conspirized

I don't usually post on here, I prefer to lurk, but I've seen a few postings where people share stories about recent encounters so I thought I'd do the same. I got a kick out of it, maybe you guys will too.

I'm not going to go into the story about my son's mother, how we met, separated, or anything else. It's all in my comments if anyone really feels like going for a dive. I'd like to share current events.

Over the past couple weeks she has gone into one of her "modes" where she pokes and prods about trying to move back in with me, how we're perfect for each other, etc. This isn't uncommon, usually at least once every six months or so, and to be honest I get a bit of satisfaction knowing she has seen the error of her ways but in spite of her efforts she just can't get back in.

This time has seemed a bit different, though. Usually the routine lasts about a week, she gets the picture, and gives up. It's beyond desperate now... hitting me up every single day asking if I'm working from home, asking if she can come over when I say that I am, asking to stay over for the weekend rather than taking my son back to her [boyfriend's] place. She has been pushing HARD. And I think I figured out why.

I took the day off on Monday, and I knew full well that this week we had to go through the parenting schedule for my son due to the rapidly approaching summer break. So when she called and asked if I was working, then subsequently whether or not she could come over I picked her up, brought her back to my place, and we spent a couple hours working over the parenting agreement. I won't go into the details of how irritating it is to try and keep someone like this on-task, but the notable thing was that between the time I picked her up and the time that we finished setting up the parenting schedule so I could ship it off to my lawyer she puked four times. If you don't know what that means, I'll point out that when she was pregnant with my son she had horrible morning sickness in the first trimester. Puked all-the-fucking-time. Of course, in spite of the fact that I was fully aware of how much she'd been puking she still tried to sleep with me and I, politely, declined.

But now I wanted to experiment. The daily requests to spend time kept coming in, but now more provocative. She'd escalated to talking about how she wants to hook up, not even trying to play the innocent "let's just have lunch." So yesterday when asked, like I have been every day since this rotation started, I told her I was working from home. I wasn't, but I was working off of a theory. In slightly more provocative terms, she asked if I'd pick her up so we could bang. "Sure, I'm in the mood. Do you have any condoms? I'm out." Of course, the answer was "No."

"No prob, I'll pick some up on the way." It started a whole shit-storm about how we never had sex with condoms before, she's my son's mother (like that somehow entitles her to my unprotected dick), etc. The end result was basically that if I wanted to use a condom then we weren't going to fuck. I imagine I'll be informed within the next month or two that she's pregnant.

Ha. Nice try.


[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 269 points270 points  (47 children)

Wow, bullet dodged, and great write-up for those still pedestalizing women. I remember the young days of disbelieving that any woman would do that ever, except for a few obviously crazy outliers.

[–]laere 89 points90 points  (23 children)

What made me chuckle is she basically implied to him what she was trying to do.

Haha, jesus christ the fucking nerve women have.

That was some good ass matrix bullet dodging.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 65 points66 points  (21 children)

she basically implied to him what she was trying to do.

Yes. But it's only obvious what's happening when you've taken the Pill.

For most sex-starved guys, a sudden opportunity to hook up with an old girlfriend or spouse seems like a good thing. And they fall for it more often than not.

[–]pilledgod 37 points38 points  (16 children)

Confirmed: I started reading here just in the nick of time. Just recently, after using a condom and getting up to throw it away, she said "you can put it in me." Suffice it to say, I "went to the bathroom" and washed that motherfucker out with soap and water. Do not underestimate female insanity.

[–]RP_on_TV 21 points22 points  (6 children)

I flush mine. I don't care if it's bad for the plumbing.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 25 points26 points  (4 children)

I had a vasectomy, so I leave them in the trash. Good luck getting knocked up by me bitch. White hot sauce works well too...

[–]user_none 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That vasectomy creates such a feeling of freedom.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking eh it does. I know there will be no more kids sharing my genetic code, and thus no more women who can be awarded the majority of my income.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Where can I get this sauce?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know, I don't need it. You sure pulled this one out of the dustbin.

[–]tokenblakk 14 points15 points  (7 children)

Did...she say...you could put the used condom inside her? And completely negating the (main) reason you used a condom in the first place??

[–]Stormhammer 16 points17 points  (5 children)

some women really fucking want a baby.

[–]foldpak111 24 points25 points  (3 children)

The benefits is more like it

[–]tekbiotik 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Baby with benefits, shit that's better than getting a job!

[–]Stormhammer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm more referring the maternal/biological clock ticking that hits women

[–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait. What? She asked that you put the condom back inside of her? Wtf?

[–]1Claude_Reborn 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The matra should be "ex's are ex's for a good reason"

[–]Day_man2020 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I don't have ex's I have y's as in why the fuck did I date you. Not my line, don't remember source

[–]FattestRabbit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't have ex's I have y's as in why the fuck did I date you

-/u/Day_man2020

But I'm totally stealing that

[–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my blue pill days, I might have fallen for that. But my spider senses would have kicked in once she got mad about me using a condom, despite her having a boyfriend. I would have just begged to fuck with a condom and later ended with my texts being ignored.

Better than being setup though...

[–]nrjk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, jesus christ the fucking nerve women have.

Is it nerve or just really shitty strategy? I'd imagine a person who can use her feminine wiles (see: pussy) with relative ease won't really develop a good sense of interpersonal strategic thinking.

This behavior is obvious to other women...especially older women, older men and some RP dudes.

It's not obvious to both sex-starved, knuckle dragging cavemen who "just wanna fuuuck"and sex-starved, whiny men who get "lonely" and "have to work out 'issues'" at various times in their lives.

[–]1kick6 40 points41 points  (2 children)

I learned at the ripe age of 24 when I knocked up a seperated-but-still-legally-married chick, and she flat out told me she was considering slithering back into bed with dude, and pretending it was his.

[–]FattestRabbit 7 points8 points  (1 child)

slithering

God, this word is so spot on it kills me. These women are snakes.

[–]FuriousMouse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, these women are simply women. This is how they are. Orbitters, shit-tests, CC it is all a part of womanhood and it all makes sense for their reproductive strategy.

[–]Bippotybop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When they get desperate for control they will try things like this. She must feel like a whore knowing she has yet another baby daddy... Which will obviously never last since she's seeking the D elsewhere. Good job maintaining frame here.

[–]1jb_trp 126 points127 points  (63 children)

I'm guessing you make a lot more money than her current boyfriend, and are probably a better father figure, and she wants to procure your goods and services. I hope you haven't had sex with this woman recently. And if you have, demand a paternity test when she accuses you of being the father.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 124 points125 points  (52 children)

Paternity testing should be mandatory. No man should ever have to ask. No woman should ever have the option of duping any man ever again.

[–]conspirized[S] 50 points51 points  (50 children)

I totally agree, except that someone would have to foot the bill. I know when I got mine done it was like $600, which was almost a month's salary for me at the time.

[–]RealRational 70 points71 points  (35 children)

Insurance should pay it. We have to pay for their fucking birth control and pap smears and a bunch of other expensive medical bullshit that ONLY affects females. Stupid healthcare law, BB government raping us again.

edit: Car insurance is segregated by gender, men pay more because they "supposedly" cost more. Either all insurance should be equalized between gender, making it a non-factor, or healthcare should be segregated by gender as well, which would mean men pay significantly less than women on healthcare premiums. Since everyone knows women have significantly higher healthcare requirements.

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    [–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 28 points29 points  (4 children)

    Forcing insurers to cover paternity testing saves no money for the healthcare system

    I think you just discovered an excellent solution then. Reverse the default, make the man not responsible for paying child support until it's proven he is the father. If no man is proven to be the father in this fashion, push child support onto the tax payer.

    Then observe as the government forces insurers to cover routine paternity tests within a year of this change.

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      [–]RedHeimdall 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Forcing insurers to cover paternity testing... does not advance the standard of living for people

      It sure as fuck advances the standard of living for the man being forced to pay for a child that is not his.

      All kinds of insurance factor in risk when issuing a policy and determining rates. If you've totaled three cars and had six DUIs, your auto insurance rates will be higher because you represent a higher risk. If you're 18 your rates are higher than if you're 45 because you represent a higher risk.

      For health insurance the situation is reversed with age --- if you're a healthy, active 20 year old you represent less risk than would a sedentary 60 year old lifetime smoker. Likewise if you have a history of bad health you are more likely to cost the insurance company more money in the future. Up until recently, you might have even been denied coverage altogether if you had serious pre-existing medical conditions.

      Past behavior is strongly indicative of future behavior.

      Now it's been made illegal for health insurers to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions. How much farther than this it goes, I'm not sure. Do they still charge older people more than younger people? Do they still charge smokers more than non-smokers? Do they charge people with serious pre-existing conditions more than those without?

      I'm betting that the answers to some of these (and similar) questions are yes. That is the free market working: to charge more for an insurance policy that is likely to cost the insurer more. Government has stepped in and limited the scope of this market pricing mechanism, as they have in many industries.

      But as ever when you mix socialism and capitalism the question is: are we going 100% commie where everybody regardless of differing circumstances is treated as identical? And if we're stopping short of that, which groups are given special treatment (in this case, exemption from market pricing) and which are not?

      Women cost more. Do they have to pay more? If not, they are being singled out for special treatment.

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        [–]RealRational 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I'm glad you're not the one making reimbursement decisions.

        I'm not a doctor, if I were in that position you can bet I'd have the best advisers on earth.

        Ok, I see your point, it's preventative maintenance. Not birth control mind you, since they can and SHOULD pay for their own damn pills just like we pay for our own condoms. But the other stuff, I don't know enough about so I'll just take your word.

        But even so, why should men pay for those things? It should be only the females who pay for those services in insurance. Or do you think we should raise the rates on women for car insurance? Cause that's exactly what's happening here, men pay more for car insurance because they're deemed "higher risk". If that's not wrong then neither is women paying more for medical insurance because they are provably higher maintenance.

        Note: My insurance agent was telling me, off the record obviously, that over half of car accidents that get reported on cars registered to men are actually being driven by women. He said that really fucks with the numbers and if that was taken into account women would be paying FAR more for car insurance than men. Just an interesting fact that society won't let be published anywhere.

        [–]RPthrowaway123 5 points6 points  (9 children)

        That stuff is important for detecting cancer and STDs, in addition to lessening the chance of pregnancy which I am perfectly okay with.

        I agree that paternity tests should be done on every child born in a hospital though.

        [–]RealRational 3 points4 points  (8 children)

        lessening the chance of pregnancy which I am perfectly okay with

        ok sure, but why can't they pay for it themselves? I don't know of any insurance programs paying for my condoms. Or, when the day finally comes, my sterility shot.

        [–]tekbiotik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Planned parenthood my brother, I don't know if they have it in your area but the place is a godsend.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        That's what happens when you try to apply logic to feminist-infected legislation.

        [–]TW_RPAwake 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        A simple blood type test has the potential to rule you out with 100% accuracy. If the test indicates that you could possibly be the father, then shell out the $$ for the full DNA test.

        [–]RealRational 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Why do you guys downvote him? Do you not know how DNA works? Depending on the blood type of the father and mother it's possible to rule yourself out as father with a test that is, effectively, free. Why not do it?

        Then, just like he said, if the kid had one of the possible blood types get the full, expensive test. Granted depending on parental blood type, of the mother or father, it could be an irrelevancy. But in half of cases it won't be, and in half of those the results would be definitive. Far from a complete solution, but considering the cost/benefit ratio it's a much better investment than the full DNA test, IF it works for you. $1 to get either a definitive no or a maybe vs $600 for an answer that's 99% accurate either way. 1 answer for a dollar or for 600? Seems to me it makes sense to try the dollar first no matter what.

        [–]Dualmilion 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        How does that work? If she came to you and said here's a kid it's yours, you say fuck off no its not, what happens from there? Are you then forced to pay the money for the test?

        [–]conspirized[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        It varies by where you live.

        Where I live, she goes to the court and says "It's his kid, so he owes me child support."

        At that point, a smart man will say "Well, I'm not sure. I don't think it's my kid." If you don't take this step, you pay child support.

        Assuming you denied that it's your child, the court will say "Okay, prove it."

        At that point, as the man you are required to go and finance a paternity test. With a court order she'll be forced to partake (give her DNA) as well. You don't NEED her to partake most of the time, but my understanding is that sometimes the results are inconclusive and the mother's DNA makes it a bit more conclusive. I didn't have this problem.

        If you're not the father you're free. If you are you're now officially invested.

        [–]Dualmilion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        thats so fucked that the burden of proof is on the father. what if he cant afford it?

        [–]conspirized[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Best advice I can give: the strong man will always find a way.

        That $600 is not shit compared to 18 years of child support.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Considering a birth cost 40k they can just tack it on.

        [–]conspirized[S] 29 points30 points  (9 children)

        I hope you haven't had sex with this woman recently.

        Not for over a year, and I won't. I can't just cut contact with her (obviously) but I sure as hell don't have to bang her.

        [–]1jb_trp 12 points13 points  (3 children)

        That's good. If this woman is particularly dubious, she might even lie at the hospital and put your name on the birth certificate anyway. There have several men who have been screwed into having to pay child support for children even when paternity tests show they are not the father (just do a quick reddit search of "Dad by default"). If she tries this crap, lawyer up and get the appeal paperwork in on time!

        [–]conspirized[S] 28 points29 points  (2 children)

        I've already got a lawyer, my bases are covered. I'd say I'm surprised she thought I was so dumb that she could even try this, but she does tend to think she's exceedingly clever.

        Hint: she's not.

        [–]copralalic 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Did your lawyer get a good laugh, too?

        [–]conspirized[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        His time is my money, so I'm saving my story for the next time we have to communicate about something important. I have no doubt that he will; he finds most interactions with her fairly humorous.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        Have you tried getting a girlfriend who will do the shielding of her from you? As in the girlfriend will do the subtle bitching when she's around so she gets more pissed of on visiting you. This may affect your time with the child though. But this idea could be a starting point.

        [–]conspirized[S] 21 points22 points  (3 children)

        She's fucked up so much that nothing short of drugs / abuse will affect my time with my son. Custody is on my terms, now.

        As far as the girlfriend thing goes, I definitely favor LTR's but between my son, my career, and my recent endeavors to get more in-shape I haven't really had the time to go looking. The few girls I have hooked up with over the past few months weren't really what I considered LTR material. I guess I'm kind of in monk mode, maybe in a few months I'll consider it.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        Alright, once you get lucky enough to hit an LTR material (it's always a dubious thing though), I can imagine the subtleties on encounters between an ex-wife like yours and an LTR will make for a hilarious spectacle. It'd be nice if you share us some of the kicks you get out of it!

        [–]conspirized[S] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

        During my son's first year of life my parents were going through bankruptcy. They moved out of state and I "inherited" their 5 bedroom, full basement house while waiting for the bank to come and claim it. I rented out 3 of the rooms to strippers, and they kinda played bodyguard for me when it came to my son's mother.

        It was, indeed, hilarious. If I get an LTR, I'll be sure to share.

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        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 58 points59 points  (13 children)

        you're quite sure you are the father of the first one?

        [–]conspirized[S] 76 points77 points  (11 children)

        No doubt. Looks just like me, got a paternity test after he was born anyways and confirmed: I am the father.

        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 19 points20 points  (10 children)

        Good work. Is your son called Luke? ;)

        [–]conspirized[S] 39 points40 points  (9 children)

        If he was, I'd have overused that joke years ago and he'd probably be tired of it by now.

        [–]Waldo00 50 points51 points  (37 children)

        What a CUNT. Scary fucking shit. Someone you shared your life with, had a child with. It doesn't matter. If you can be used you will be used.

        [–]conspirized[S] 62 points63 points  (36 children)

        You know, it seems like scary shit... but you eventually get used to it. If anything, when you've had a child with a chick and it doesn't go well you become an adept at these kinds of situations. They play off exactly that shit as much as they possibly can.

        Boyfriend and her are fighting? Expect to get blown up, because she's going to want to spend time with / bang you to piss her boyfriend off.

        Lost her job? "You don't want your kid's mom to be homeless! I need money to do stuff with him! If you don't give me money then he won't be able to eat while he's with me this weekend!"

        Boyfriend is breaking up with her? "We spent so much time together, I realized you're the only one for me, I'm the mother of your child, please let me come live with you!"

        The list goes on and on. When you're literally forced to deal with someone and you've got a history with them attempting to play on that shit is their first stop on trying to get someone to cough up whatever it is they want.

        [–]RealRational 14 points15 points  (29 children)

        Lost her job? "You don't want your kid's mom to be homeless! I need money to do stuff with him! If you don't give me money then he won't be able to eat while he's with me this weekend!"

        how do you deal with this one?

        [–]Mindblind 38 points39 points  (8 children)

        Ok, if you can't feed him I'll take care of him till you're back on your feet.

        [–]RealRational 11 points12 points  (6 children)

        But how do you do that when she has court ordered visitation?

        I have some experience with divorce, they won't allow you to just keep the kids when she's supposed to have them.

        [–]Mindblind 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        You're not taking him away from her, she can't provide for him and you are offering a solution. If it came down to it, they aren't going to allow the kid to starve.

        [–]conspirized[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        He's actually right, though.

        Here's the fucked up thing: you can't tell her "no, you can't take our son this weekend" even if you know she doesn't have the means to provide. You are then in contempt of court because you refused to allow her to have the child during the allotted time.

        Now, if she takes him in spite of not having the means to provide and, therefore, he doesn't eat all weekend it does look extremely fucking bad for her. Like... you can file for emergency custody and shit bad.

        But... do you really want to put your kid through that? Sure you can get a short-term advantage, but trust and believe if the mother of your child is willing to put her own kid through that kind of shit she's going to fuck up worse down the road. As a father, I'd opt for Plan B as mentioned below and just send him with some food then throw the punches when openings present themselves further down the road. Making your kid suffer, even for their own good in the long-run, is not a wise tactic. Even if it were, as a decent parent you won't be able to force yourself to do it.

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          [–]RealRational 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          When I Google that I get Chicago Public Schools. Could you leave a link for those interested? It's what I was going to do.

          [–]conspirized[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

          This is typically the attitude I take and it works for me: the end-result is that she leaves him with me (if she legitimately can't take care of him) or she magically finds a way to take care of him without using my money.

          This may not work for everyone. /u/RealRational is correct in his statement.

          [–]s0nicfreak 16 points17 points  (3 children)

          Send the kid to her house with enough food to feed himself, and only himself, for the weekend. If you can, get something the kid likes but the ex doesn't.

          [–]1iluminatiNYC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          What I've done is sent over food while my daughter is on visitation. That way, it's clear that my daughter will have something to eat, and her mom can't go act a fool with the money. Everyone wins with that one.

          [–]RealRational 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I like this one best so far.

          [–]Philhelm 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Easy. Have the child come over for a free meal. I wouldn't send a fucking cent to the ex if the courts already had their hands in my pockets.

          [–]1Jaereth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Then he better just stay here this weekend because you are in no condition to have him over.

          [–]flyingwolf 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          I would like to think (and mind you I have never been in this particular position) that I would pull out the cell phone, and ask her to record herself saying this. And record her agreeing that since she is physically unable to care of the child that it is in the child's best interest to stay with me that weekend and she loses that weekends worth of visitation.

          I also know exactly how well that would go over.

          But then again, I have signs at my front door that say audio and video monitoring in progress.

          So I would have it on recording either way.

          [–]conspirized[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Recording laws vary by location. For example: where I'm at I don't require the consent or knowledge of the other party to record them.

          That being said, while I'm sure this likely varies by location, denying visitation even knowing full well that the other parent can't take care of the child technically puts you in contempt of court and, therefore, YOU get in trouble for it. There are measures you can take in a situation like that, but when you find out the day of (as is typical) you don't have enough time to act.

          When Mom receives the child and doesn't provide adequate care it can land her in a lot of shit that can put you, as Dad, ahead in the race for custody... but no parent wants to put their kid through that shit.

          It's fucked up, but it's the way it is. If Plan A (tell her you'll keep the kid since she can't take care of it) doesn't work, then Plan B (send kid with food) is the best route (as a parent) to take.

          [–]bustanutmeow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You should be using this to get full custody, Sure it might suck to miss out on food for the day, but its a lot better in the long run.

          [–]GarandTheftAvto 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Amazon.com food to the house, or use some other grocery delivery service- the online options have really reasonable deals. Easy move if you know where to look, I gather.

          Edit: plus you have a SUPER easily readable record of the transaction to show where your money went, what it was for, and how much. Paper trails for the win, always.

          [–]conspirized[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          plus you have a SUPER easily readable record of the transaction to show where your money went

          Very much yes. To keep things simple, though: simply following the above direction of sending your child to their mothers' house with adequate food accompanied by a receipt (keep the receipt, to be clear) and a text message that says "I sent our son/daughter with food for the weekend" is just as effective.

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          Holy shit. Dude, I think I just came to a realization. That list that you just put out. I just realized that I was the other guy...

          I no contacted my ex for two months and she calls right out of the blue. I ended up fucking her. But she was busy on alternating days... like she was dividing her time. She always said she had work when I know for a fact she didn't. Then she mentioned some peculiar to me as I was leaving for a month. She complained about having to "make time for me" while I was in town. She had never done this before. She made it seem like it was a big deal to see me.

          Of course, Pre-TRP me shrugged this off. I kept on talking to her while I was gone, and she made a big deal about not being exclusive with me (I wanted exclusivity. Again, pre-TRP). She then said she would stop talking to every guy she was talking to except one. Apparently, she met this guy in the two months we were broken up and she told me that they "only kissed". I said that was bull shit and she eventually she said she would stop talking to him. After that she made another big deal about various other things like going out on "dates" with guys, meeting "guy friends alone" in their apartments, etc. Every night she was starting some sort of fight on topics that she knew I had problems with. Until I essentially told to fuck off and go fuck the other guy.

          I feel really fucking stupid for not seeing it now. She was seeing this guy. This guy she mentioned was probably a dude that she was "dating" or almost dating until something petty probably happened and she called me up. She thought that I would only be a quick fuck while she patched things up with homeboy. Instead, I wasn't and she didn't have the guts to bluntly tell me, so she made it seem like it was a gradually melting away.

          Another thing popped out to me. The first time we saw each other in that episode we were making out in my car until I felt something wet on my arm. This bitch was crying. She said "I didn't think I would catch feelings for you like this again". LOL. She was crying because she had a guilt of conscience I think. Her new man probably got the whole "we need to take a short break" speech and she didn't think she would care that much when she saw me.

          Sorry for the long post, but this is like a big fucking realization for me. While I was at my military FTX I was wondering all sorts of shit about how she was alright with this and how she could rebound so quickly. It wasn't that she rebounded after that little episode; it was that she was already seeing someone and I was supposed to be the quick fuck to take her mind off of it. AWALT

          [–]conspirized[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I think most men who date around find themselves in a situation like that. It's unfortunate, but it opens your eyes.

          At least you didn't knock her up, right?

          [–]Groshub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          It's so unfair man, why do women have to be like this. I wish you the best.

          [–]GREF_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          What a manipulative monster. AWALT, women are terrible.

          [–]Paint_It_R3d 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is a great post. Guys who have dealt with this have a whole different understanding of AWALT. It's an ugly side but it opens your eye WIDE to the shit that gets pulled. Stay strong man, her shit isn't your shit.

          [–]tekbiotik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Keep strong my brother. You're doing hero work. I wish that my dad was half as strong as you in this situation, but he didn't have the fortune of information at his fingertips that we have now. Fuck her boyfriend, fuck her. They have their own fucked up nightmares to live through. You're doing great, just focus on the ones that matter and that's you and your family.

          [–]Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 32 points33 points  (2 children)

          Shit, that's some stone cold ruthlessness from her. Perfect example of how not to expect women to follow any code of ethics. They live by different rules. Self interest at any cost.

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 14 points15 points  (1 child)

          You can't blame them.

          Women in general lack the willpower, the discipline, and the practiced ingenuity to flourish on their own. They can survive well enough, but not flourish.

          And survival isn't enough when it's 2+ mouths you're trying to feed.

          That's why they do everything in their nature-given capacity as persuaders and manipulators to get men to provide for them.

          [–]md619 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Can't forget this. In evolutionary terms a woman without a man's commitment was fucked. This script is still hardwired in them even if it no longer makes sense in modern culture.

          [–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (21 children)

          Does she think you are an idiot? I mean who would fall for this stuff? Jesus Christ.

          [–]Tarnsman4Life 54 points55 points  (6 children)

          Does she think you are an idiot? I mean who would fall for this stuff? Jesus Christ.

          Legions and legions of thirsty guys can and do fall for it, every single day. "Just once baby"

          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

          Yeah, but how can she think that he won't get it when she pukes four times while they are together?
          Women are weird.

          [–]UnsafeReload 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Thirsty? Is this new slang for horny? I've been seeing this on Reddit a lot lately but never heard of this previously.

          [–]Tarnsman4Life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Men who are too eager/desperate for female attention

          http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thirsty

          [–]Temuzjin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          I might have fallen for this pre-TRP.

          [–]Deresetese 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Sadly there are many people who will give her the benfit of the doubt there and play it off. She's desperate

          [–]1xwm 16 points17 points  (8 children)

          I mean who would fall for this stuff?

          People who are assured that their woman goddess can do no wrong.

          People who are so addicted to crap tv, masturbation, sugar, pot, and other mind numbing crap that they can barely think in this time zone.

          People who believe it is ok to stress out over everything, or that they are special regardless of their low IQ.

          People who assume that everyone else is as caring and generous as they are.

          Basically anyone who hasn't been pulled out of the coma that is our current society's "logic is morally wrong" stance

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            [–]TurgidMeatWand 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Some stoners get stupid high every time either because they smoke too much or thier body/mind just has that reaction to it. People who have the "dumb stoner" stereotype is really just because people who are stupid with or without weed like to let people know they smoke weed.

            [–]no_username_needed 5 points6 points  (2 children)

            Dude isnt a smoker. Mary huana definitely has a tendancy to open your eyes more than close them.

            [–]link5057 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Its like you can visibly see any bullshit they spew when youre high

            [–]1xwm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            You sure what you took wasn't labeled lsd?

            [–]1xwm 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            All the shit that we numb our brains with contributes.

            [–]enjoyit7 9 points10 points  (1 child)

            When I'm high I can see bullshit so clear. Everything is so clear. Life is clear. Time to light up.

            [–]1kick6 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Oh look, a pot smoker who thinks he's better at everything when high. Who would have thought...

            Here's a hint: all the sober people watching you do stuff high think you suck at it.

            Signed,

            Guy who burns without blowing smoke up everyone's ass.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I'm almost impressed with how fucking devious and calculating women appears - this is how it is with men of power. But no, women just do this shit instinctually. Their inferior physical strength means they have evolved to be machiavellian masters, by instinct! Fucking scary.

            [–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

            Re-flaired to "Field Report". Good stuff.

            [–]conspirized[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            Thanks, will try to classify better next time.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

            This sounds like an amazing episode of "Maury" .. I can already picture her running off stage when he tells you that you're NOT the father

            [–]copralalic 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            He wouldn't laugh and run offstage. He'd just sigh, shake his head, and say, "I fuckin' knew it already." The ex's boyfriend would be the one running around on the stage then.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            She would run off stage in tears. He would be the one high fiving the security and audience members

            [–]copralalic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            I haven't watched the show enough to know exactly what would happen, but it would be gloooooorrrious, I'm certain.

            [–]1cover20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            The women typically have a breakdown when a guy isn't the dad. The woman is desperate to find a cash flow stream and the intensity of the breakdown shows that they would do literally anything to get it.

            Watch those shows if you're ever thinking of sex with a single mom or otherwise associating with her in any family-like role.

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            [–]conspirized[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

            I can provide an update when I get more information. Like I said, I'd expect to find out about it in a month or two. She'll likely ask me to pay for the abortion.

            I'm not even kidding.

            [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Sex is just a weapon for some. Just "bang". No.

            [–]rpscrote 4 points5 points  (2 children)

            Keep the whole text conversation and take screenshots of you eventually also saying NO. I wouldn't put it past her to delete anything after you saying "Yeah lets bang" then screenshotting it like that's what actually happened

            [–]conspirized[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

            I don't see how it would matter, but due to the whole custody thing all of our communications (even in person) are recorded. Thanks to law in my local state, I am able to do this without her consent or knowledge.

            [–]rpscrote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I doubt it would amount to anything, but smoking gun proof can put down an attempt more quickly and save you the time and trouble a less certain situation might entail. The all communications recorded thing likely covers you though, good call!

            [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            That was a great story man. I can't stop chuckling over. Thank you very much for sharing. It's funny how obvious people can be and they have no idea.

            [–]AntixD 4 points5 points  (2 children)

            did she show any cuntish ways before marriage?

            [–]conspirized[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

            We were never married.

            To answer your question, though: I was relatively BP-ish when it came to actually being in a relationship back in the day prior to my entire mess with her. The signs were definitely there, but I was too ignorant/brainwashed to see them for what they were.

            I didn't discover TRP till late last year, but the entire experience with her basically unplugged me. Won't fall for that shit again, for sure.

            [–]AntixD 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            okay thanks brother,just wanted to know if i could fall for the same trap even if knowledgeable

            [–]bam2_89 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Get a vasectomy. Tell no one. Let her do it hats off, then wait for the news.

            [–]aazav 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Ha. Nice try.

            Way to prevent her from trying to sink her claws back in since she got knocked up by a guy who can't provide.

            You're not her next kid's father and she's not entitled to your income to raise him/her.

            You just dodged a bullet. A very expensive bullet.

            [–]PIGamer86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Fucking solid. Do not waver man!

            [–]urallphux 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Amazing story, thank you for sharing.

            [–]1iluminatiNYC 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            As someone who is a single dad, I think you played with fire. Still, you got out of there unscathed. Well played, and enjoy yourself. :)

            [–]conspirized[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            I'm aware, but someone else in the thread pointed out that it could have been a result of coming down off drugs. While I'm aware that she doesn't want to bang when that's the case, she has a history. The experiment was a way to confirm one way or the other.

            Just trying to hook back up? Wanted money? Condom-sex would have been fine.

            [–]All-DayErrDay 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            I swear to god the people on /r/Relationship would turn this shit around into some way where you were in the wrong.

            [–]conspirized[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Well, the right thing to do would have been to just hook up and appreciate the opportunity to feast on her clam. It's not like she offers it to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Nine months later: I'm clearly a better father than her boyfriend could ever be and, therefore, I should provide for the child as if it were my own. It's for the good of the child!

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            Sounds reasonable. I had a co-worker where I used to work. He was a solid dude. He didn't like me because he'd picked up a girl that had been in to me and whom I turned down because of her mustache. And there was another girl I met online who turned out to be 'big' but not 'beautiful' (I like the bigger girls), and he ended up picking up on her.

            Anyways... the mustache lady got knocked up, told this guy it was his, got child support from him, and then move the baby to the other side of the country so he could only see 'his' daughter once a year while she still collected child support and didn't work.

            I deleted her from Facebook and she inboxed me "Why" and I said: "Because you took your daughter away from her father and still expect him to pay; I grew up without a father and you don't know how lucky you are to have a guy who is involved, and then you shit all over him."

            She got pissed and told him about and he turned super icy cold on me, but I later found out from one of her female friends that she was banging some addict she use to hang out with and was pretty sure that the baby was his, but she knew the other guy would actually pay the child support and the addict was a dead beat, so she hung it on him without telling him that it likely wasn't his.

            I felt so bad for the guy, but I had know clue how to tell him because it had been like over two years since the kid was born and he loved her.

            Pathetic how some people play games with people's lives like that. Their own children's lives no less.

            [–]iluvpeople 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            OMG, I didn't know women were this crazy!

            [–]1CowardlyPetrov 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            I think this was maybe a 5/10 on the crazy scale. What do you guys think? I'm just going off observation here, but seems like a very basic level of woman crazy and I have seen a lot crazier.

            Don't tell me that other women in DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES would behave differently. Tell me honestly, in the same exact circumstances wouldn't most women try the same bullshit?

            [–]NightGod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Yeah, 5-6 range sounds about right.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            It's like something straight out of a horror movie...nice catch man

            [–]conspirized[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            To be fair: still the best lay I ever had.

            17, young, and dumb results in shit like this.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            This should boost your ego as well, her trying to pin it on you was an obvious sign that she recognized you are a better provider than anyone else she knows. This might not be something to brag about, but it appears to me you have your shit together, and solid.

            [–]conspirized[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            My ego doesn't need any more boosts.

            Still, yes.

            [–]Goldfulgore 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            Here is a disturbing and unpleasant thought I just had:

            Could she had done this in the past? Is your son truly your son?

            I would check this out if I were you.

            [–]conspirized[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            She could have tried.

            If you dig through the comments, someone has already asked. You could tell in the ultrasounds that it was my son, and despite that fact I got a paternity test and he is my son without a doubt.

            [–]Goldfulgore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Then allow me to join the rest of the comments and say to you wholeheartedly that you probably dodged a bullet. Like Neo who took the Red Pill.

            Only time will tell whether she was really pregnant.

            [–]MadeSomewhereElse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            This is why I am getting a vasectomy.

            [–]Paint_It_R3d 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Nice work having a little fun with this situation. Once you've been with a bitch like this, you know these tricks all too well.

            [–]TekkomanKingz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            There is an old saying you shouldn't try to strike gold twice in the same location...

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            [–]conspirized[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

            I am very good at interacting with other people, the catch is that I am only good at it in person. I can get what I want from her, but I can't do that over text message / e-mail. I could spend hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars paying my lawyer to do it, or I can do it myself for the cost of a trip across town, a headache, and couple hours of my time.

            I like my money.

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              [–]conspirized[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Look... I'll do just about anything for the right amount of money... so for the right amount: I'd hit that shit again.

              Barring those circumstances: I'm going to assume you've never been in a situation like this. It's fucked up because you're literally forced to have interactions with this person that you would otherwise have absolutely fucking nothing to do with. It's not like a normal relationship (or non-relationship) where you can just shrug her off, blow her off, have zero interaction with her because there's nothing to be gained.

              You have a third-party (family court) that will see that kind of shit and point the finger at you; they'll say that you're being uncooperative, that you're not willing to work with the other parent, and next thing you know your kid ends up being FUCKED (especially if you have a boy: those raised exclusively by their mothers can testify, I'm sure) because the court, having little or no understanding of your situation, throws him to Mom.

              And it's not even like that for me. She's dug herself into a hole so deep over the past three years that I could point the finger at her, tell my lawyer to go, and he'd rip her a new asshole. But you know what? That shit costs $150 AN HOUR. She can talk for an hour about absolutely nothing without even hesitating. I'm not paying that kind of money.

              So yea, I'll put up with her shit for an afternoon to get what I want.

              EDIT: Fuck, you're a troll... aren't you?

              [–]putsch80 1 point2 points  (21 children)

              Throw some gas on the fire: Send screencaps of the texts to the bf. Tell him you aren't sure if the kid is his or yours, and that he needs to get a paternity test done. That will make for a fun ~9 months for the both of them.

              [–]conspirized[S] 62 points63 points  (1 child)

              I considered it, but the drama isn't worth my time.

              [–]shiteonakite 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              fully agree taking the nuclear option can often lead to more stress than it's worth.

              [–]thisiskindofmessedup 19 points20 points  (0 children)

              Throw some gas on the fire

              I can't believe this is upvoted so much. This is unnecessary bullshit that women do. You don't know what kind of story she will give to this guy. Instant problems between OP and this guy.

              OP don't spend energy doing bullshit like this. Just keep doing you bro.

              [–]darkrood 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              Somehow, I can still imagine op's ex-wife will come out unscathed, while the boyfriend would be all up in op's face about trying to sleep with his "gurl"~~

              [–]putsch80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Fair point. While possibly fun, the danger with throwing gas on the fire is you can also get burned.

              [–]conspirized[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I'll risk sounding cocky.

              while the boyfriend would be all up in op's face

              He knows better.

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                [–]marrio91 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                With that kind of crazy, the kid is already a stress machine at this point.

                [–]putsch80 14 points15 points  (2 children)

                While I don't necessarily disagree with you, this kind of thinking is what allows women to get away with this shit

                Let's say he waits until the child is born and just plays it straight by telling the bf the mom was trying to slut it up with OP. Will the situation be an less stressful on the half sibling? Is it any less fair to the newborn child that his parents will likely separate as a result? Or that the mom's breast milk production will probably decrease from the stress? Or that the house will become a stressful environment where a newborn might not thrive?

                [–]Deresetese 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                She will get away with being a slut. But that's not a problem, none of this is. Her second child has no connection to OP and is really not worth his time. She and her bf will take care of the second child, OP will take care of his child.
                Any actions against her is only pointless revenge which will hurt an unborn, himself, his child and the bf of his ex.
                She won't change anyway

                [–]link5057 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                If the moms pulls this shit with her ex, shell pull it with someone else I'd bet. Let her ruin her own life, op doesn't have to do it for her

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Not his kid, not his problem.

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                  [–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  I picked her up, brought her back to my place

                  U wot? She can't even provide her own fucking transportation?

                  [–]conspirized[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  She doesn't have a car, and why pay for one when there's always a guy willing to transport her? I realize that, in this situation, I was that guy but... I needed a parental plan put together and I needed a signature. My time is much cheaper than my lawyer's.

                  [–]rorrr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Make sure she doesn't put your name on the birth certificate.

                  [–]conspirized[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Fortunately I live in a locale where she can put my name on the certificate, tell it to the welfare office, etc....

                  I'll receive a sealed notice at my work, I'll see said notice, sick my lawyer on her, take a paternity test, and be free and clear.

                  Not something I need to worry about.

                  [–]redpillersinparis 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  Why does she want to claim that you are the father though? you have more money than her "boyfriend"?

                  [–]conspirized[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Someone else nailed it, actually:

                  From /u/jb_trp

                  I'm guessing you make a lot more money than her current boyfriend, and are probably a better father figure, and she wants to procure your goods and services. I hope you haven't had sex with this woman recently. And if you have, demand a paternity test when she accuses you of being the father.

                  I make more money, have more status, and I'm more attractive. I'm better than her current boyfriend in all measures of SMV. Not being cocky here, it's just a fact.

                  [–]Entershikari 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  We live in a sick world where future childrens are born from those kind of behaviors.

                  [–]MotchGoffels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Good god your intuition really saved your ass. Bravo!

                  [–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Wowwwwwww. How can you not be nearly enraged by this?

                  Considering the fact that she has as boyfriend and expects you two to have unprotected sex... I would have told her to kill herself.

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