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Post asks women how their SO reacted to their 'high' sexual partner count. The responses are priceless. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by cassandrita

LINK: https://archive.is/5fLnP

Not ONE woman admitted to failed a relationship failed because a guy couldn't handle their number. They all claim to 'regret', 'some' experiences but most of the responses said men just shouldn't care.

Some responses:

  1. He doesn't care!

  2. I don't regret my number...but I don't tell men my number.

I recently turned 19 and have slept with about twenty guys. I honestly don't tell any of the guys I'm with because, what's the point?

I'm at 16 men right now so I'm not planning on telling him.

I have slept with 26 people. I am currently dating a virgin. I'm hoping he doesn't ask me my number.

  1. Hundreds of men!

I'm a 31 year old female and I've slept with hundreds of men. My best guess is in the 300 range. It tends to put guys off so I don't offer it up

  1. It just shouldn't matter!

Honestly I don't know what it is anyway. He has a past, too. We live in the present, now.

  1. The surprise reveal.

he was trying to sound cool and experienced having been with 9 people, and I was like "lol boo I stopped counting at 40",

  1. What is a 'high' number anyways? It depends on age!

Mine is 32, and I don't think that's "high" necessarily, but I know a ton of people do. For reference, I'm 35 though.

  1. This one was downvoted and buried at the bottom.

I don't know if I have a high number, but it's more than most of my friends. If a guy I'm with asks though, I lie.

  1. Refusing to say.

The guy I'm seeing now asked, and I said no your past is yours and mine is mine, lets leave it there and he agreed and hasn't questioned it since. I dont regret things,

  1. This guy was downvoted to oblivion for his reponse:

I definitely don't like girls with a high number. I remember this one girl, who I really liked, asked me what my number was. Before I could answer, she put on a big smile and said, "I bet you it's not as high as mine." Instant turn-off. I was so freaked out that I didn't even tell her my number for the specific purpose of not wanting to see her reaction. I just hoped she assumed I had a low number and that's why she said that.

  1. And this:

He knows my number is high. About 5 or 6 times his. He doesn't want to know the number though, and I respect that. I have never had a problem sharing it, and it has never mattered to any guys I've told. Amongst my friend group, our numbers are celebrated. I hang out with a bunch of girls who love sex, love going out, and do not give a fuck what anyone else thinks. Though I have made some really STUPID STUPID mistakes with protection when I was out and about, I never had any accidents or diseases, thank god! I'm in a relationship now, but for my friends still sleeping around, I used to steal condoms from work and pass them out like gum! I don't regret anything, but I would probably die or worse if anyone shared my info online. My family would disown me and probably have a few heart attacks between them.


[–]skoobled 218 points219 points  (53 children)

31 year old who has slept with 300 men? Let's break this down:

Assuming a normalish age of first sex at 16, that would be 300 / (31-16) = 18.75 different men a year. Even if we assume she lost her virginity early, for example 13, that's still 16.67 different men a year.

Now think of it like this; this means that up until this point in her life she has been used to getting a new cock 365/16.67 = 21 = on average every 3 weeks. However somehow she thinks that she can completely turn this behaviour that has marked her entire adult life and commit to one man/penis for the rest of her life, which let's put down conservatively as 50 or 60 years

Every three weeks

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 31 points32 points  (21 children)

Yeah, that's the problem. You will hardly ever find men who get these numbers - but almost every woman who seriously puts her mind to it can achieve that amount of partners with ease.

[–]BetterRedThanRed 27 points28 points  (16 children)

A man who wants to achieve 100 or more has to dedicate his life around getting laid.

  • A day free of work? Go to the club the evening before and talk to lots of women...

  • Just talk to lot of women in general. In the line in a grocery store? Talk to the girl behind you or in front of you. In Starbucks? Talk to a woman who stands next to you. Etc...

If you do this, you can get more than 10 different women per year or more than 100 in 10 years, even if your SMV is just average.

Meanwhile a woman just has to do:

  • be at least a 2/10 (yes, requirements are this low)

  • don't reject men who hit on you even if they are just 5/10s

[–]CreateTheFuture 40 points41 points  (2 children)

That would mean practically every pregnancy scare (and you know there were tons) would have involved multiple potential fathers.

Think about that when "your" woman tells you she's pregnant.

[–]the99percent1 12 points13 points  (1 child)

"Are you sure it's mine?"

Say it with a straight face.

[–]Newdist2 33 points34 points  (10 children)

31 year old who has slept with 300 men? Let's break this down:

Assuming a normalish age of first sex at 16,

Dude, the kind of chick chick who goes through 300 men probably started really early, like at 13. Correlation? Causation? Probably both.

[–]TestosteroneFilled 45 points46 points  (2 children)

Pretty sure you hit it right on the head. The worst thing is if I read it correctly she said she's currently 35 and been married for 14 years so her number is only acquired between 13 and 21. Top kek if you believe some girl can have a new dick every week then instantly stop when she gets marries.

[–]BlackHeart89 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The worst thing is if I read it correctly she said she's currently 35 and been married for 14 years so her number is only acquired between 13 and 21.

Thats assuming she was faithful during the 14 years of marriage.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Let's round that to EVERY OVULATION

[–]the99percent1 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Your assumptions doesn't include repeat customers.

At those figures, she could at times have her pussy attacked like a buffet, penetrated two to three times a day by different partners.

Let those numbers sink in folks.

[–]1mojo_juju 49 points50 points  (3 children)

And now we begin to see the impact that Feminsim and "let loose, explore your sexuality" culture has had on traditional western culture. Bahahahaha. Dumb ass feminist bitches.

18-30, the only feminists are fugglies who can't get the multiple CC rides they need to validate themselves

post wall, all women are feminists.

[–]BetterRedThanRed 22 points23 points  (1 child)

The woman who posted this is morbidly obese and probably won't make to to 80 or even 90...

[–]BattleDrillOneAlpha 49 points50 points  (0 children)

It is funny to click their profiles and take a quick look at their submitted threads. More often than not they will have a picture of themselves.

I'll save you the time; they are always 5s and below.

[–]2IVIaskerade 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But Skoobled, you just don't understand! She's changed! It's all in the past now, she's moved on!

[–]cassandrita[S] 146 points147 points  (55 children)

This woman justifies her lying about her number because her feels matter more than any man: http://i.imgur.com/B3vMDvr.jpg?1

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 96 points97 points  (3 children)

Not just her feelings, she said "self-preservation". She is putting her own well-being, which includes feelings but also provision, above the preferences of men.

It's this attitude that should convince every man to not worry about "stinging a girl along". Do what they do, don't outright lie about wanting to marry them, but don't worry about them overestimating your investment, since your future, just like their past, is "inconsequential".

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 50 points51 points  (0 children)

IM MAXIM #51 - Women are mercenary. They do whatever it takes. They will switch sides or outright lie to secure the man they deem to be their best option. That's what you are to a woman. An option.

[–]I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Ew. Wow. Chick made my skin crawl.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 90 points91 points  (9 children)

The answer from some guy on that was priceless.

Actually, as a guy, I can respect this. I do something similar.

The thing is, I love sex without a condom but I don't want to be in a relationship right now. That is a predicament...

My solution has been to get into a 'relationship' with a woman with no plan of ever going long term. I don't tell her this of course... Immediately after we decide to make things exclusive, we both get checked for STD/STI and put her on birth control. We say our "I love you's" and go do 'couple' type things. Pretty much be the best boyfriend/girlfriend we can be for like a month or however long it takes me to want to have sex with someone else. Then I break up with her over some random arbitrary reason I think up. And immediately go on to find another woman.

My desire for self preservation comes before anyone's ~feelings~

This is what strikes home with me. I know that I don't want to be in a long term relationship but I love sex without a condom. And I know women wouldn't have sex with me without a condom if we don't commit to each other. Why should I tell her I'm not looking for a long term relationship if I know it'll immediately crush my chance at sex without a condom. Why do I deserve to be unhappy? Thanks but no thanks, I'll look out for number 1 and keep telling these girls that I love them.

Unfortunately, she didn't take the bait.

[–]NecroticFury 20 points21 points  (3 children)

and society has no problem calling him the asshole for thinking in the same manner. I guess the only way to avoid being screwed is to do the screwing first?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Well, they're working on making that illegal. Rape by deception.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Man, this is beautifully stated.

[–][deleted] 100 points101 points  (29 children)

How can you trust women when you know the vast majority of them think like this? I wish that I lived in a world where things actually made sense. I would happily not go around and fuck random women if I knew there was honest girls out there that I could actually trust.

[–]1mojo_juju 110 points111 points  (12 children)

Bottom line: Don't trust women. They are highly-evolved-machiavellian-machines that exist to use you. They are resource seeking nest birds who care about nothing else but themselves & their offspring.

They generally don't understand the concept of "truth", because to them, nothing exists outside of themselves. The thought that there is a reality of things extant without them is an enigma to them. To them, their life is entirely about themselves and their derived benefits.

I grew up in a female dominant household. They are all fucked in the head. They have no moral integrity, no accountability. it's like their frontal lobes never fully develop or something.

Nah... the truth is, they are ruthlessly selfish by rule of evolution: their focus in life is their self and their children. If you're not providing for either, you're not in the equation.

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    [–]Lt_Muffintoes 17 points18 points  (2 children)

    it's definitely the case where the majority are perpetually stuck as 14 year-olds.

    Ehh. That's kind of an insult to 14 year olds. I've found that 14 year olds are actually nice

    [–]NecroticFury 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    14 year olds are constantly distrusted based on how self absorbed they can become. Men are held back because they are potential molesters, yet none of these assumptions reach a woman's front door. Not only is she not accountable for what she could do, but she isn't accountable for what she did do either.

    [–]NecroticFury 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Woah, not only that, but nobody ever asks a woman to be all of those things. At least we could blame them if society expected them to have integrity, but we literally raise our girls telling them "you can be or do whatever you want." Hell we even use that exact terminology! Its not about the world, its about them. Everyone else exists for their benefit only.

    Quite similar to the outlook a prepubescent child has, I would say.

    [–]akolyteofthecentury 43 points44 points  (0 children)

    IllimitableMan wrote something along the lines of "The level of trust has never been high between the sexes, but nowadays has never been lower" in his 50 shades of red post.

    Few decades ago, women knew their place and kept to the rules, just as men did. Men were incentivised to provide, women were incentivised to nurture. Then feminism came along and instilled that men - or rather the old white guys in pinstripe suits sitting at the round table with Arthur, Jesus and others a.k.a the patriarchy - were the enemy. Divide and conquer.

    The thing is: women are malable. Like water, they assume the form of the container they are poured into; Just gotta be the right kind of container.

    Edit: gave credit to the wrong guy.

    [–]hebola4lyfe 42 points43 points  (7 children)

    How can you trust women when you know the vast majority of them think like this?

    welcome to the real world.

    Nobody said to you that it was going to be easy . Use these information on TRP to proceed the rest of your life.

    You've been conditioned to see women in a certain way ; innocent little angels who can love and care. Do not believe the things you were taught about women before you took the pill. Your mother, teachers, education, friends, government and media all lied to you and they are against your own interest. The world is against men and see us as disposable providers .

    [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    You hit the nail on the head. I can't tell you how many times I've been made a bitch to start realizing this. I can for sure say this isn't what I hoped for when I was a kid but it is what it is.

    [–][deleted]  (5 children)

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      [–]Spaceduck4000 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      You don't trust them , instead you develop the skill set to be able to analyze and decipher the meaning from all the bullshit that comes out of their mouths. It's not that hard to figure out the trail of bread crumbs that leads to a slut, and once you do you need not worry about being the victim of a Machiavellian whore ever again.

      [–]Polaris382 39 points40 points  (1 child)

      lmao @ "It's a gross topic and it turns me off personally" in regards to telling a guy how "many men have made her cum".

      Yeah, you sure as hell didnt think it was a "gross topic" when you were taking all that dick, but now when someone wants a little honesty about it...now all the sudden its "gross".

      Edit- Oh, I see someone already beat me to it.

      [–]NecroticFury 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      you both get upvotes. its kind of crazy how this didnt cross my mind after the first read.

      [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

      I love the part where she says 'the number of guys who've made her cum' is a gross topic, we agree.

      [–]Coyote_Spirit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It's like they're not even trying to hamster anymore.

      [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 61 points62 points  (4 children)

      Pay attention fellas...

      Ha, you're me... Minus the whole pretty thing, I look like a bloated toad and I'm in my early 20's.

      Men over seas love American women and I have no idea why. I mean yeah we have some hot ladies, but their women? Fuck they are absolutely stunning.

      Travelling really racks up the number.

      Even for the ugliest of the uglies, "Travelling really racks up the number."

      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      I am French and I have interacted with few american women in my life, but most of the time, they have been aggressively seductive towards me. One even started flirting in the metro, in front of her mother. I was very surprised at this behavior and I think the fact that "travelling really racks up the number" is the fact that those girls basically throw themselves to foreigners, more than any special beauty inherent to American girls.

      [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Vacation Mentality is a real thing. Basically it's women being freed of ASD to follow every hypergamous/sexual desire they might have, and all away from their social circles where they might be judged.

      [–][deleted] 289 points290 points  (27 children)

      I have slept with 26 people. I am currently dating a virgin. I'm hoping he doesn't ask me my number.

      dating him but not fucking him, am i right Chad?

      [–]ScottRikkard 260 points261 points  (9 children)

      She's not like that anymore. She wants a real relationship now. How cant you see she changed? You fucking misogynist.

      khm.

      [–]matt675 57 points58 points  (4 children)

      yeah i mean obviously she'll need to fulfill certain "needs" outside of her committed relationship but what Beta Billy doesn't know won't hurt him

      [–][deleted] 68 points69 points  (3 children)

      But it's not my fault that my needs need to be satisfied... i deserve it

      [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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        [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (1 child)

        You just had a glimpse into the mind of a Starbucks slurping, vapid 20-something who thinks she's God's gift to Humanity because she has a vagina.

        [–]vacationlife- 66 points67 points  (15 children)

        they also love to say

        i dont regret anything

        wtf does this even mean these days? You have to be an idiot to go through life not regretting anything. I haven't met a guy (or girl, regardless if they'll admit it) who hasn't regretted fucking at least one person they did. And that's just talking about sex, a small part of life

        but yeah... 'no regrets... live laugh love'

        [–]oaddsandk 42 points43 points  (1 child)

        B-b-but if they regret something, then that means they made a mistake, but casual sex is not a mistake! It's empowering!

        [–]NecroticFury 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        unless its with a beta, in which case it is a mistake, and you are a rapist because you sold yourself off as an alpha.

        yet she can sell herself off as anything she wants, and even change that persona along with the changing seasons.

        [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

        It means my standards are so low it's impossible to fuck up.

        [–][deleted] 548 points549 points x2 (88 children)

        Plate asked me once about this stuff.

        I said it's not the amount of sex you have; it's the number of partners. Nature doesn't know there is such a thing as birth control. More than a few STDs have much worse outcomes if left untreated on female fertility than men's and as such we find it naturally repellent, just like obese people - they know this is true as well because girls despite claiming to the contrary are the most vicious and loud about using "slut" as a pejorative.

        Fucking 3 guys 1000 times is fine, it's indicative of a healthy sex drive and a stable emotional base from which you can form the conditions for child rearing; a good relationship.

        Fucking 300 guys 10 times shows nothing more than poor impulse control, a broken bonding mechanism, an inability to commit and a failure on her natural function to create the conditions for being an ideal mother. Parental investment is such that you're meant to bond deeply with who you choose as a mate for offspring.

        Plate: "That... Makes a lot of sense... But why do men need so much sex then? They'll sleep around..."

        Because men can either impregnate 1000 women in a month in an r selection strategy, or intensely commit to one woman and impregnate her and follow a K selection strategy. Either way he gets to reproduce as he best sees fit according to whatever environmental pressure there is. All a woman's reproductive strategy can ever be is K selection. A child that takes 9 months to gestate and could kill in delivery which then takes 18 months to learn to even walk ensures that. "Sleeping around" is not something that ever comes "naturally"as a female - it is natural for one of two available strategies for men.

        As for sex per se... They prescribe testosterone to women to improve their sex drive. Girls at age 20 have a peak testosterone around 75 ng/dL, boys at age 20 have testosterone at up to 1200 ng/dL, a 16 fold increase. You say you're horny like a guy. You have no idea what "horny like a guy" actually is.

        Plate: You know it's pretty obvious when you think about it.

        I know right. How are your friends all doing on Tinder?

        Plate: Lol they're all miserable.

        TL;DR.

        Girls, you are ashamed of your high partner counts, there are good reasons why you feel like that, you'll never persuade most men to ignore it and that's why you'll always lie about it.

        [–]jaysbob 142 points143 points  (27 children)

        It's a good point about testosterone and natural sex drive. Lots of women assume they have an understanding of male sexuality and urges but trans women taking testosterone supplements universally report being shocked by the massive change(increase) in sex drive.

        Women tend to assume they're just as horny as men and should be able to engage in the same behaviors, but in reality we're wired completely differently to fulfill completely separate procreative roles.

        [–]ITranscendRaceHombre 142 points143 points  (12 children)

        Their solipsism stands in the way of true understanding of the male experience. Aside from assuming they're just as horny as men, they also believe that men can obtain sex just as easily as they can. They don't consider that it is not impressive by any stretch for them to have a high n count. Getting sex for a woman is as simple as going to the cupboard and getting the peanut butter off the shelf. It requires zero effort, zero skill, and unless the bitch is straight up hideous, requires just being alive. Congratulations, sweetheart. Via the Pareto 80/20 and selection bias, they assume all or most men have it like the Chads they are fucking. They don't understand the "slut shaming" double standard exists for a very valid reason outside of evolutionary psychology. For a man to have a high n count, he had to put some serious work in. Now even if that man is just a PUA and is a fake alpha, he still had to research, learn tricks, and face endless rejection to get to a point where he was bedding women. The real alpha, if not a born natural, had to go on a motherfucking journey and build the reality in which he exists. His frame and stoicism are byproducts of endless work administered after deep introspection. These women are fucking clueless to the fact that Chad is a top tier, small percentage representation of men. A man doesn't just show up to a party with a dick and get laid like a woman does. Hence a man who can fuck women with any kind of ease is someone who worked for a skill. It's like the difference between a fucking trust fund baby (woman) and a rags to riches self made millionaire (man). Just because the trust fund baby is also rich, doesn't mean we should respect them anywhere near the same as the man who built his empire from the ground up. Women can act like men, but they will never truly be a "stud" since all of their wealth is inherited.

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          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          A million dollar trust fund if she is at the top of her game, with a bit of luck.

          [–]MrStrong911 11 points12 points  (4 children)

          In my experience this is true apart from girls who do a lot of sport.

          These girls are far more horny than other girls and I would wager it being due to testosterone produced in playing sports?!

          Chat to sporty girls - far easier to get into bed!

          [–]SouthernPetite 39 points40 points  (0 children)

          it's not the amount of sex you have; it's the number of partners.

          I'm glad you said that. I've seen a lot of people, even here, claim that society frowns upon women who enjoy sex, yet I've never heard anyone ever claim to hold that position.

          It's always about promiscuity, and, in my experience, most women who are promiscuous don't actually enjoy sex- they just put on a good show for everyone, and then secretly ask their friends who actually enjoy it for advice on how to figure things out.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 62 points63 points  (11 children)

          This comment is excellent. It is sidebar material IMHO.

          [–]OwlsExterminator 11 points12 points  (8 children)

          Sounds like its from my history of sex book. The book starts out saying since farmers could have only one rooster and 100 hens to fuck, thus it was obvious that males were the superior sex. Think of this way a man can have 1000 kids while a woman is limited in her life to a select period of maybe max of 10-20 and even back in the day may not have survived child-birth.

          [–]meddygoon 23 points24 points  (15 children)

          Just let me comment on a scientific inaccuracy in your statement (I spent years studying this shit so it irks the fuck out of me when people get it wrong and it's better to correct this now so it doesn't take away from the value of whatever opinion you wish to share).

          Reproductive startegies have nothing to do with how many women you fuck, whether you fuck 5000 women in one year or spend your entire life fucking the same woman, you still follow a K-selection curve because it depends on the species and the number of progeny a female of that species can have in a single pregnancy.

          K-selection is the way by which more highly evolved mammals procreate because it focuses on a smaller number of offspring that are much more likely to make it into adulthood (e.g. humans) while r-selection just produces as many offspring as it can because the environment is harsh and most of those will die anyway (e.g. flies). Unless you live around women who have short pregnancies and can pop out 15+ kids in one labor, you're not an r-selection mammal.

          Edit: removed the part where I was being nice because I remembered this isn't the real world and I don't have to sandwich criticism between compliments, this type of mistake is unacceptable because this shit is available in an ELI5 manner on fucking Wikipedia.

          Edit 2: I'm a fucking moron, thanks /u/Dravous and /u/iamveryoffended for pointing out that the last sentence in my comment was wrong. Fixed now.

          [–]bebestman 11 points12 points  (2 children)

          "Sleeping around" is not something that ever comes "naturally"as a female - it is natural for one of two available strategies for men.

          That is not completely true. Of course there is the argument you provided, that a woman is only capable of K reproduction, this glosses over alternative purposes for copulation. In matriarchal societies - none of which are civilizations, mind you - the concept of partial fatherhood exists. A woman could sleep around to mask the identity of the father and on average extract more resources from the men who are the potential fathers. Furthermore, I suspect prostitution has a biological basis.

          [–]648262[🍰] 28 points29 points  (11 children)

          This is why I keep coming back here. Time and time again i see bullshit, nagging and stupid posts on here, but then these gems of written wisdom infused with the knowledge of the gods show up.

          An interesting idea, though hardly scientific, on the r/K reproduction selection is related to the age old question on "tits or ass?" - Looking at climate you'll see a tendency towards colder climates being more obsessed with tits, while the hotter climates focus more on ass.

          Massive tits in the colder climates corresponds to a K selection, as it becomes more important to plan your resources for reproduction ahead. If you make 3 babies, then you need to make sure they survive. Food is essential and it is dependent on seasons and so on - big tits gives a more secure delivery of baby food.

          In the hotter climates food grow on trees daily and is much more easily available, so its more about popping out babies every 9 months. If 3/10 of them survive we have population growth. For this women need a solid set of hips - or ass, as many would say. More related to r selection in other words.

          As mentioned - not scientific, but an interesting hypothesis.

          [–]vezokpiraka 21 points22 points  (0 children)

          A key that opens many locks is a great key. A lock that is opened by many keys is not a very good lock.

          [–]Hydris 45 points46 points  (2 children)

          "I'm not ashamed/don't regret but I won't tell my s/o" contradictory statement right there.

          [–]lala_xyyz 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Hamster can run in both directions simultaneously.

          [–]1WidmerBeer 72 points73 points  (5 children)

          Women have turned down more sex than all the sex a man will ever have.

          Once a woman is out of high-school and she leaves behind the old social pressure of her reputation, it's really up to her which path she wants to pursue. We must note that we now live in a society that doesn't put an emphasis on long term monogamy.

          Now imagine this, a woman within 6 years has 3 boyfriends. She had sex on average once a week.

          A woman has 100 partners within 6 years. Half of them one night stands. But the rest no more than 5 times each.

          And last but not least, the third boyfriend of the first girl was one of the second girls one night stands during the 4th year. Meet Chad T. Did he ever cheat on girl A also? We can never know.

          As you can see both women have had the same amount of sex, and both are at risk for STDs. From a religious standpoint both examples would be sluts, from our standpoint only the latter would be a slut, and from a feminist standpoint the latter would be 'empowered' and the first not exploratory of her sexuality. Either way, when they get to their mid/late 20s these women want to get married.

          Which leads to my conclusion, that everything for your future partner should be based on your standards and what you're looking for because chances are each girl isn't going to tell you the truth regarding how much they had sex anyway. The golden years are when you're young, but these women don't get married young these days, and us men... who even wants to get married/lose-half-your-shit these days?

          For me, I saw a skinny Asian girl sitting on the floor reading a book at Barnes&Noble. She caught my attention because she looked so happily captivated by what she was reading that it shut the world out around her, and that brought me joy. To me that was more attractive than any woman stumbling out of a bar could ever be. If you're looking for a LTR, find someone with the values you wish to see in your children should you have them. Women fail to realize that promiscuity is a reflection of values. I suppose some women just don't understand that we don't want a promiscuous woman raising our children, and no matter how much flak the waves of progressive society disagrees with us, I'd say we're better men for it.

          TL/DR - Promiscuity is a reflection of values, and men want women with certain values to instill in their children.

          [–]Ojisan1 22 points23 points  (0 children)

          This should be its own post, not buried in the comments of another post. Good sensible viewpoint.

          If you're looking for a LTR, find someone with the values you wish to see in your children should you have them. Women fail to realize that promiscuity is a reflection of values.

          A very important point that is too often overlooked in a sub where a lot of the focus is on HB numbers, that SMV is not all about her looks (obviously it's part of it, but not the only consideration that men should be taking into account).

          [–]SexistFlyingPig 797 points798 points  (86 children)

          The archer needs practice.
          The target doesn't.

          [–]Rus_s13 366 points367 points  (4 children)

          a master key will open many locks.

          a lock that opens for any key is just a shitty lock

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            [–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

            This. One tablespoon of instinct mixed in with intellectual references can make for psychic level of reading people.

            [–]DrScientist812 28 points29 points  (6 children)

            Anybody hear about that Canadian girl who got spit-roasted at the Calgary Stampede and then made a video saying she's an empowered woman and people shouldn't judge her? I wonder when she'll tell her next boyfriend about that little incident.

            [–]squarehead93 16 points17 points  (4 children)

            Yup. From Vice no less. Guess who's side they took. God that place has gone to shit.

            [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

            Doing a 3some in public, at a family event with kids around, and it's clearly misogyny when people think it's inappropriate.

            Some people are so fucking dense.

            [–]Copenhagen23 12 points13 points  (2 children)

            Oh man this is the title of the article.

            Hero Woman Refuses to Be Shamed After Her Public Threesome Goes Viral - Sarah Ratchford

            I'm not linking to it because they don't deserve the clicks. Apparently she had a little suk and fuk in exchange for concert tickets. Put her down for the Nobel Prize. What a brave empowered woman. I'm sure she'll be making porn within days to show how strong and brave she is.

            [–]Ekalsrek 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            she is actually touring Alberta performing at strip clubs now

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            [–]1Snivellious 30 points31 points  (2 children)

            He hasn't questioned it because that answer told him everything he needed to know. Either he's a pushover and accepted the (implied) huge partner count, or he knows what's up and it doesn't stop him from hanging around.

            It's crazy delusional that she thinks she somehow avoided the discussion. "We don't need to talk about it" is the same as saying "too damn high and I know it".

            [–]BattleDrillOneAlpha 16 points17 points  (1 child)

            Either he's a pushover and accepted the (implied) huge partner count, or he knows what's up and it doesn't stop him from hanging around.

            The best part is that if he did show her that he cared then she would have labeled him as insecure. Maybe I am missing something, but I feel like if you have to hide your partner count then you are very insecure about it and not the other way around.

            [–]25russianbear25 13 points14 points  (0 children)

            Naive 6 than an expert 9

            Any day, Because of is capable of LTR or marriage when other one is never settle.

            Once humans get older and hormones and beauty wears off, expert 9s become worthless.

            [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 23 points24 points  (0 children)

            They all claim to 'regret', 'some' experiences but most of the responses said men just shouldn't care.

            Fucking lying bitches. They never regret their number. They only regret either being honest about it or being caught lying about it.

            And maybe they regret not having stacked enough plausible deniability to calm down their hamsters about the fact that they are a slut and now have to lie about their number, instead of being able to rationalize it away.

            Then they gang up in threads like those and feed that sweet plausible deniability to each other.

            Disgusting.

            [–]iCanOnlyGetSoErect 230 points231 points  (109 children)

            Women fail to realize that a low partner count is attractive. Reason being, it shows that they had the skill/personality to keep a LTR. Women who sleep around or just have too many exs simply don't have the skills/personality to keep a guy. This means they're not relationship material.

            Edit: On the other hand, the reason why women like men with high partner counts is because it shows that he is of high value. A low value male (aka unattractive) intrinsically would not have a high partner count. High value males have developed their selves in such a way that they are successful in the physical (fitness, diet, fashion, etc.), mental (ambitious, outcome-independent, intelligent, etc.), social (leader, doesn't take shit from just anybody, knows how to keep an audience, etc.) and the financial (wealth, high status career, etc.). They are the alpha males. And only alpha males can have high partner counts, going full circle with why women like men with high partner counts.

            [–]HeinousFu_kery 41 points42 points  (5 children)

            Protip:

            • If she asks for your number, hers is low (usually less than 10-12 at middle age). Also if she asks "How she feels down there compared to the rest of the girls you've been with" (it happens).

            • If she doesn't it doesn't necessarily mean that it's high, but it's more likely.

            • If she seems annoyed at the concept or just lays it out there ("I've been around"), she doesn't want to tell you how high it is. Protection is mandatory.

            • If she tells you "I've done it all and I'm not someone you want in your life" it's astronomical, she's trouble, and you should listen to her and GTFO right away (yes, this happens too).

            [–]newls 172 points173 points  (8 children)

            They know deep down that a low partner count heightens their SMV. That's why they go to such lengths to hide their count from high quality men. It's also why they go nuts whenever someone tells them that their count does matter.

            [–]CastratedBetaOrbiter 67 points68 points  (1 child)

            The truth hurts.

            [–]thewrightstuff88 39 points40 points  (1 child)

            this is very significant. they want to have their cake and eat it too. deep down its all about power. women know what men want, however they are fighting their very nature about it because all they do is go for "feels." They know their number plays a significant factor however they want to "climb up the ladder" so to speak, fucking as many high SMV males as possible to "raise their own value" in their heads.

            Even things like LTRs aren't natural. as many advancements as we've made over the thousands of years, deep down we still operate sexually with our animalistic brains, the limbic system, which is by far the oldest part of our brains.

            Women are fighting their own nature with things like "feminism" and striving for their own form of "equality" however they always seem to be "happier" when they are lead by a man, in more ways than one

            [–]cassandrita[S] 36 points37 points  (5 children)

            Don't know if I can mention the sub, so I'll just say in this 'feminist' female centered sub, I once browsed the submissions by "FWB" and "feels", and hundreds of results for women who claimed to want an NSA relationship and then wanted the commitment but couldn't get it.

            [–]1Snivellious 36 points37 points  (0 children)

            It's the standard pattern TRP predicts - they want both. Ideally they want a hot guy from a NSA relationship to fall fanatically in love and commit to them.

            Even if they somehow got that, though, the commitment would make him less exciting once they got it. Hence, chasing alphas and dating betas.

            [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

            I found myself browsing the askwomen sub. One of the top posts asked if unattractive women feel invisible. The responses were variants of "I'm unattractive and feel invisible" and "I'm unattractive and still get unwanted attention, cat calling, work harassment and such". WTF.

            [–]2IVIaskerade 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            TwoX, right? I bet it was TwoX.

            [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Schroedinger's relationship: as long as a woman hasn't made up her mind, they want you to treat your relationship with her simultaneously as a casual one as well as one with actual long term-potential (if you want more, you're clingy, if she wants more than you you are the asshole who lead her on). Basically, she wants your opinion on the relationship to perfectly line up with her priorities.

            [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 55 points56 points  (17 children)

            This. It demonstrates they lack self control and aren't forward thinkers (if their long term plan is to get into a LTR, get married, and have kids someday). Basically they are demonstrating they are risky prospects for an LTR if they can't deny themselves a hookup with the hot stud of the week, not to mention the damage it does to their ability to pair bond after having so many partners. It all comes down to self-control and being able to moderate those urges towards hypergamy, something our ancestors understood much better than we are willing to admit publicly today.

            Women indulging those biological drives unchecked without societal censure fucks everything up thereby ruining them as LTR material and IMO heavily influencing our divorce rates, whether they realize it or not.

            edit: fleshed out my thoughts a bit now that I'm on a computer and not a phone.

            [–]sLyyyisfactioN 14 points15 points  (0 children)

            They know it's bad for them, but their brain is rewired to short-term satisfaction, so they start justifying their partnercount aka hamstering.

            [–]pavista 53 points54 points  (26 children)

            I do wonder what the real reason we hate high partner women is. I know we like to make it sound logical, like it demonstrates a lack of fitness, but I think it's deeper than that. Most men just find it emotionally revolting. Even if she was the most loyal woman in the world I'm not so sure it would change your feelings towards the situation.

            [–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (5 children)

            It does seem to be a visceral reaction doesn't it, like seeing a roach in your salad or something.

            [–]DannyDemotta 64 points65 points  (3 children)

            And even after you've plucked out the roach - even when you're 100% certain no roach remnants remain - you've lost your appetite and want a new salad.

            [–]Wolfsdorf 41 points42 points  (0 children)

            But see, the past does not matter! you should want to eat that salad!

            [–]ObservantOmega 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Or you're so disgusted that you prefer to leave the premises AKA MGTOW.

            [–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (8 children)

            1) Past behaviour is the best indication of future behaviour. If she has slept around before she met you, she will likely continue to do so after she met you.

            2) The probability of it being a successful relationship (in evolutionary terms, her being loyal enough to raise children with you) drops pretty much from the start. In the small nomadic tribes we evolved in, someone with an n of 30 has slept with every able-bodied man in the entire tribe. Who in their right mind would believe her if she then comes and says she will be loyal to just you? You are a cuckold in waiting, and this is genetic death.

            3) STDs

            4) Indication of a history poor decisions and life choices.

            Someone once said that if a woman fucked 500 men in a year, she isn't marriage material. If a woman fucked one man 500 times in a year, they would be queueing around the block to marry her. Put like that, the difference is quality is just obvious.

            [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (5 children)

            Pretty much. High partner count means they likely can't--

            1) distinguish between a good relationship or a bad relationship;

            2) put in the effort to keep a relationship interesting for a man; they have no real desire for a long term relationship;

            3) they can't connect emotionally or engage in genuine intimacy with their partners;

            4) they are somehow defective and not worth committing to (why buy a used car that others have turned their noses up at but rented for the weekend and drove like they stole it);

            5) Can't make positive life associations and choices;

            6) Just because she has sex, doesn't mean she is actually enjoying it as many women exhibits symptoms of nymphomania but admit to not achieving or feeling pleasure during sex, so a high partner count can mean she's incapable of enjoying sex.

            ---"If a woman fucked one man 500 times in a year, they would be queueing around the block to marry her."--This is what we guys want to see.

            [–]BetterRedThanRed 25 points26 points  (0 children)

            I do wonder what the real reason we hate high partner women is.

            "Reason" has at least two meanings.

            1. Why are men programmed this way?

            2. How does the program work?

            Answers:

            1. Natural selection favored men who commit to monogamous women. Committing to women who have sex with everyone is a terrible strategy. Men who are not programmed to avoid such women have an evolutionary disadvantage.

            2. Humans feel jealous if their partner cheats. Note that men get jealous if their women have sex with other men, while a women thinks it is even worse if a men is emotionally attached to other women. Women are more likely to forgive "I was drunk and had a one night stand" than a man. Because she lost nothing. Her man still gives her safety. But if a woman has sex with another man, her man might raise a child that is not biologically his child.

              If a woman has a male best friend she would never have sex with, her husband would not care. Another man helping to raise his children is okay. Now if a man has a female best friend, his wife might be extremely jealous. A woman wants a man who emotionally commits to her only.

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              [–]Modredpillschool 42 points43 points  (11 children)

              I have some sympathy for them, just like the guys who put themselves in the friend zone, they are doing what society is telling them they should do to get what they want (sex for the men, a relationship for the women) without realizing they are being lied to and screwing themselves over in the process.

              Except these women are just drunk off validation, and let it get to their heads. Whereas guys in the friendzone are miserable.

              [–]Anderfail 25 points26 points  (3 children)

              Make no mistake women are excellent at hiding their true feelings about something. The mask you see is not remotely who they are or how they feel. The women who have high partner counts are just as miserable as the men, they have just learned to hide it better because their entire life is built upon lies that either they tell themselves or others tell them. Many many of these women secretly go to therapy to deal with the fact that they are still single and can't seem to find a man who wants them for a relationship.

              Feminism has done indescribable harm to both men and women.

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                [–]Squeezymypenisy 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                I have no sympathy for either. No excuse for being a whore and the past does matter. It affects you no matter what. Guys in the friend-zone cannot handle rejection. They put themselves there.

                [–]neveragoodtime 23 points24 points  (1 child)

                Women always want to know why it's OK for men to sleep around, but not women. Just ask her if she's hoping to marry a 35 year old virgin and measure her response. Men like virgins, women like experience. Get over it and don't try to fish for men using bait for women.

                [–]squarehead93 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                Just ask her if she's hoping to marry a 35 year old virgin and measure her response.

                Ding ding ding. We have a winner. When a woman hears "35 year old virgin" applied to guy, she's definitely not imagining Tim Tebow. What she does imagine is almost certainly anything but the type of guy who would give her tingles.

                [–]thefisherman1961 58 points59 points  (6 children)

                They're not plate material either. High partner count => higher chance of catching STD's. Plus, she can be amazing in bed if she was only with one partner for a long time. There is just nothing attractive about a woman having a high partner count.

                [–]truthiesttruth 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                You are wrong, they know a low partner count is attractive, they just dont care about what men want, hence the lying and cognitive dissonance about their count. Why else would every single women lie about their count?

                They would rather get their AF and lie than be someone that they know men would want. Their selfish narcissistic behavior should be repayed with replication.

                Get what you want out of your life and fuck whatever it is that they want.

                [–]BetterRedThanRed 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                Edit: On the other hand, the reason why women like men with high partner counts is because it shows that he is of high value.

                Correlation is not causality.

                Women do not like men with high partner counts. They like men with high value. Of course, such men are more likely to also have a high partner counts.

                I would highly recommend that while flirting with a woman, you do not say: "I had sex with 34 women already, btw."

                [–]iCanOnlyGetSoErect 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Correlation is not causality.

                That's true. Thanks for catching that. What I meant was that when women see a man that is desired by other women, they then find out that that he is a high value male. It doesn't make him more attractive, but it shows people that he is attractive.

                [–]DrScientist812 20 points21 points  (6 children)

                Knew a girl who insisted her number was 5 and refused to admit anything else. Except of course when she HAD to tell me a story. Based on the girl (kind of a basket case) and the various yarns she related I'd say she was closer to 20-something

                [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                The rule of thumb is that you multiply by 3 (at least)

                [–]docbloodmoney 19 points20 points  (2 children)

                Men who have a problem with my (high ish)number usually have other serious character flaws that would preclude any kind of relationship

                nooooo, whore, the only character flaws revealed by your high partner count are your own

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                any way to blame it on men. lmao.

                [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 54 points55 points  (4 children)

                I'm a 31 year old female and I've slept with hundreds of men. My best guess is in the 300 range. It tends to put guys off so I don't offer it up

                She's slept with around 20 men per year since she turned 16. My guess is that it's backloaded, i.e. the rate at which she goes through men has increased as she's gotten older.

                Her ability to pair bond with a man has effectively been smashed to bits. She's a lifelong plate at this point.

                [–]Surf_Or_Die 39 points40 points  (3 children)

                And some white knight faggot is gonna put a ring on her. Hahahahaha.

                [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 24 points25 points  (0 children)

                He might as well skip the wedding and take her straight to divorce court. He can use the savings to pay her alimony.

                [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                And THEN he will find self in deadbedrooms....he wont ever know why. She will have him convinced all marriages are low libido

                [–]anonymousapple111 34 points35 points  (2 children)

                The problem with today's women is that they want 21st century liberties and eighteenth century privileges.They can whore around all they want,but asking us to marry them and take them seriously is ridiculous.

                [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                It's cause you can act like a whore without the "whore" label anymore. Now it's "brave" or some feel good bullshit like that lol.

                Either way, whores usually don't wind up living a glamorous lifestyle so it's kind of a moot point to even give a shit. I just feel bad for the suckers who wind up marrying them.

                [–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (6 children)

                I swear to God women just want to be entitled to everything. Pretty selfish to think that their actions would have zero consequences in the future.

                I remember reading a post here in regards to the same topic, and the top comment explained how it's similar to how banks require credit checks on loans, or how employers require back checks for employment. The past may be the past but it's a good indication of what's possible for the future.

                A person with terrible credit could beg to have a loan and could swear that they will pay that loan in time. Who knows, they might. But why should someone put that risk upon themselves. There's a reason why these things exist.

                You know, women say that men shouldn't care about high partner counts because they cannot be changed. Well, how about if we told women that they shouldn't care about height, or superficial bullshit like looks and money. See the double standard?

                The problem here is that marriage or possible LTR's require some sort of "investment", whether it be emotionally or financially.Why invest into something that is low value? And for the butthurt women that claim that a woman with a high partner count isn't low value, how about you start being something much more than your pussy? Because let's face it. 90-95% of women are just that. Look at what Patrice O'neal has to say about that.

                People need to read in between the lines. It's not about the actual act of having a high partner count, it's WHY they are doing it.

                Oh they love casual sex? Why not have "casual" sex with one person rather than giving yourself to many other men. It's obviously for the subconscious validation they need. As one Red Piller puts it:

                A woman who's fucked 1000 guys will be ignored, but a woman who's fucked one guy 1000 times will have men line up for her.

                [–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 30 points31 points  (0 children)

                The answer to a woman who doesn't want to reveal her past is for you to not reveal your future plans for her. A woman who says men are insecure for caring about her past should be told she is insecure for demanding signs of comitmemt. If she's had lots before you, she should have the possibility of having lots after you, but it won't be her decision anymore.

                [–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (18 children)

                This one stood out to me.

                I recently turned 19 and have slept with about twenty guys.

                In my 19 years I've only ever had one. Not saying this because i want to be disparaging but its honestly scary to me that someone who is my age has fucked so many guys. It's like I'll have no choice but to go monk mode or pick a slut for a wife.

                I honestly don't tell any of the guys I'm with because, what's the point? I slept with someone earlier this summer and we were answering questions on a Truth or Dare app and one of the questions he got was "how many sexual partners have you had?" and he said "I don't know, a lot. maybe six or seven," so I knew not to tell him what my number was.

                This is just further reinforcing the fact.

                I don't regret anything. I think sex is fun. I think people put too much effort into caring about their own number or the number of other people.

                I care about other people's number whom i get involved with because of the consequences e.g. you're emotionally fucked up because all those guys used her as a cum dumpster,herpes is real,HIV is real.

                It's not my role to judge anyone but it is my role to determine who gets to be my partner for life and that is just one metric.

                [–]putsch80 47 points48 points  (6 children)

                Keep in mind that, if you only read subs like that, you will only see women like that. AskWomyn tends to attract a certain kind of userbase that is largely homogenous: "sex-positive," pro-feminist, 20-30 somethings. If you interact with women in real life, you will certainly still encounter those kind of women, but you will also encounter plenty that have n-counts that you could count on one hand without a thumb.

                [–]CastratedBetaOrbiter 31 points32 points  (2 children)

                The women who have had under 10 dicks all get married before 30. The women who can think long term and want to get married aren't out partying every weekend sucking Chad dick. They're probably in a LTR and working on their careers.

                These sorts of women almost universally marry before 30 because they know that if they want a family, they need to secure that LTR soon before they hit the wall. They're also usually too busy working to go out every weekend to get Chad cock routinely.

                [–]OwlsExterminator 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                Yes they're anti-social women around but they still have hormones, fuck a bunch and will lead you on. They're just better at hiding that fact and you're naive to believe it.

                My anti-social 34 yr old plate acts like its under 10 but I know she's probably near 100 as she is great at giving head and says stuff in bed that I know she's experienced. E.g. I moved her head off the bed to face fuck her the first time ever and she giggly said she knew what I was about to do...

                [–]1mojo_juju 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                Dang dude, thanks for the warning-- I never put 2 and 2 together.

                This makes a lot of sense.

                the type of AskWemenz fem is a ""sex-positive," pro-feminist, 20-30 somethings"... These are the high P count dirty-cunts that we come across in real life... but some of us fail to connect the dots.

                [–]Professor_Pussypenis 15 points16 points  (3 children)

                same here, I'm 21 years old and only have had sex with one girl. I'm so far behind everyone else by now. I think I'll just stay in monk mode forever.

                [–]widec 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                I'm a 22 y/o virgin. I think other people care more than I do.

                [–]BetterRedThanRed 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                I did this during high school because the girls in my class were all low quality. Also it was a small town so going to the club was not really an option. Also as an 18 yo boy/man you simply can not compete with random men in their 20s. So unless you go for someone in your class or other close social group, you have a very hard time...

                Well, long story short: I once overheard the girls in my high school talking about boys:


                "Dude A is really ugly!" "Hehe, yeah, and Dude B is an idiot." "Dude C seems really nice though... but his hair is awful." "Haha... and what about /u/BetterRedThanRed? I really do not get him." "Yeah! I, too! You really do not know what to do with him. He is probably just boring."


                Fucking bitches! I never was interested in them even a little bit. There is Internet porn! No chance that I would play your personal entertainer just for a chance of 6/10 pussy! tldr: Monk mode is easy today.

                [–]CastratedBetaOrbiter 29 points30 points  (2 children)

                You're in for a wild ride. I'm in my late 30s and was like you, dated a lot, but left a lot of girls in my 20s because I was appalled by their number count.

                I had more self respect than sticking my dick in something that 10+ guys have. Key word being had.

                Now, in my late 30s every woman I meet over 28 has had 10+ prior boyfriends they ADMIT to. Random misc. dick and bar dicks aren't even counted in the boyfriend count. So better used to sticking your dick where 20+ other guys have been in.

                Women these days don't believe in LTR. The good ones were ones I dated in my teens/mid 20s. Let's face it, the good ones marry early before their dick count hit double digits.

                [–]DarrenLB76 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                Women will attack their boyfriends over the most minor shit, and try to make them feel guilty. Yet when it comes to promiscuity women think they should be given a total free pass.

                I think its important because (putting aside the greater risk of STDs) what is the likely psychological effect on a woman of sleeping with 10s or even 100s of men? I'd argue its going to make her well-practiced at forming initimate relations then letting them go. In other words it will make her cold. It also wouldn't surprise me if it increases the chance she will have all kinds of emotional/mental issues. Of course we'll rarely see any good research on this as academics would be viciously attacked if they wrote anything along those lines.

                [–]PedroIsWatching 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                Remember, this is AskWomen we're talking about. The people in that sub are almost certainly 5/10's max.

                [–][deleted] 71 points72 points  (0 children)

                This is why we keep saying women are the most responsible teenagers in the house. An overwhelming majority of them think like children. They do not care about the future consequences of sleeping with that random guy they don't even know the real name of.

                They act according to their feeelz and do not expect any consequences. They have the intrinsic desire to sleep with the best guy around while locking down a weaker provider willing to sacrifice himself for a chance with a better woman than himself. But, the sleeping around also decreases their value and they do not realize it until it is too late. So they lock down the fat guy with the fat wallet while the attractive AND successful men simply ignore them.

                That's also why feminism became a movement to create ways for women to not be responsible for their actions. It advocates men to keep their mouth shut and keep pouring their hard-earned money on that lazy slut who barely starfishes him the day after she discreetly lets yet another Chad fuck her in the ass.

                [–]TRPAlternative 53 points54 points  (10 children)

                I think it's a bit of a shame how unaware some of these women whom brag about partner count is.

                Like, as a women, you could literally sleep with a different guy every night of your 20s if you're of even average attractiveness, and you wouldn't be far off if you were unattractive.

                [–]Modredpillschool 50 points51 points  (9 children)

                These girls with numbers over 300... and there are those who dare argue that men and women have it equally hard.

                [–]truthiesttruth 19 points20 points  (7 children)

                Whenever I see this type of post I have the same line of thought:

                For every female that gains a notch, a male gains a notch.

                Excluding homos and dykes, the average sexual partner count for hetro males and females must be equal. Statistically speaking, the means are the same.

                That does not however mean that the standard deviations are the same and I do not believe for one second that they are: There is an incredibly small % of men out there smashing all the pussy, while the rest of the men sit at home, probably playing video games. (I really wish this subreddit was not so video game friendly)

                The beauty of this situation is that it has never been easier to be in the top 20% of men, all you have to do is follow trp principals.

                [–]spooky-clinic 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                It's a fact...that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It's what's known as 'the law of the market'...Economic liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. Sexual liberalism is likewise an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society.

                Michel Houellebecq, Whatever

                [–]GrandmasterHurricane 13 points14 points  (5 children)

                One of the commenters mentioned how when she was younger she equated sex to a guy liking her, so she went for it. Also says that she's more mature now and knows better. Didn't say her age, but it's an interesting thought.

                [–]103342 17 points18 points  (4 children)

                This is kind of a pattern that I see about how girls lose their virgnity in my country.

                They don't understand the value of their virginity until after they've lost it. No one tells them.

                I have honestly met 5 girls (I dated 3 of them) that lost their virginity to an older dude, they were around 16~18 and the guy 27~30, and they were completely in love and then after banging them a couple of times the guy just leaves.

                In their heads all of them call these guys their "first love", but deep down they know they've been used for sex.

                Girls literally have to learn the value of sex from experience.

                [–]TheMGhandi 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                If you had the money, would you buy a used car with 5 previous owners, 100, or a brand new car?

                [–]fewforwarding 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                maybe there is selection bias in that thread but still it's pretty telling. most of them won't directly say what their number is, but the ones that do frequently range from 10 - 40, and one as high as 300.

                If they are "average" then it's pretty safe to say the average promiscuous woman has at least 2 partners per year, and the outliers having up to 24 partners a year, or twice a month.

                It's hard to tell when so many numbers are hidden but it looks like the women usually have partner counts at least 4x as high as their partners.

                25% of the guys are at least getting 75% of the pussy, and it's probably more skewed than that.

                Lessons learned: women all believe they deserve the best cock out there and see nothing wrong with taking it, but will then settle for less in committed relationships. They very well know that men don't get as much but will ignore the fundamental reason for the disparity.

                [–]cassandrita[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                The responses just keep getting better and better. Here's this special snowflake's response:

                I would not want to date someone who thinks I am a whore. That being said, I very much prefer to talk about either specific experiences or general trends - but not my specific number. There are a few reasons for this:

                I kinda don't think it's anyone's business.

                It doesn't add to the conversation - at least not any kind of conversation I want to have. It's boring, useless material. It defines me (and others) in an objectifying way. People can't be reduced to numbers.

                I'm never sure who and what to count

                I don't actually know my number off the top of my head.

                I mean, if someone I care about asks me, I'll answer. But I'd rather talk about stuff like:

                What sex means to me

                When I started having sex and why

                My attitude towards sex, when it's ok to have sex, how I feel about casual sex, etc.

                Significant relationships I've been in.

                Sexual health & std testing.

                What kind of sex I like to have, and with whom.

                I think those things are both more humanizing, more interesting, and more useful than asking someone for their number and making assumptions from there.

                [–]Lt_Muffintoes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                It doesn't add to the conversation.

                They keep saying this. Why?

                Is this a secret to mesmerising sluts for long enough to fuck them? Keep "adding to the conversation" (don't detract by breaking frame or saying something -ugh- nerdy)

                [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                Women will whore and then play noble. If challenged they will misdirect/attack or do anything not to be caught out as anything less than a paragon of virtue. Women always have to have the moral high-ground, it is a fundamental part of how they attack others and defend themselves - manipulating perception/reputation. We know whoring dirties a woman psychologically, they know this too, so instead of not whoring, they just hide their number. If they don't hide it, they will control the narrative and redefine the meaning of the number. Most simply accept it lowers their SMV so hide it/attack/misdirect. It's more efficient than trying to convince someone an inherently negative value lowering thing is a good thing.

                If you really want to know a woman's number, pretend you're not judgemental and that you've slept with hundreds of women yourself. The truth will out.

                There are guys out there with a multiple thousand notch count bedding all these women, whilst the average guy is less than 10. Think about that for a minute.

                [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                You can not trust these hoes.

                Ignore the halo-effect and see modern women for what they are- hedonistic, shallow, and dishonest.

                I've been the beta who chased a girl I thought was special. I've been in a "loving" LTR for over 2 years to be ditched when I was down on my luck. I've been the other man several times without knowing until after the fact. I've seen girls call their boyfriend and sound completely sincere while being in my bed. I've seen women do the most whorish things you would never suspect them to do unless you knew how girls really are.

                I've seen enough.

                Go look at gonewild or any other fucking site and see these "innocent" girls doing all kinds of kinky shit just for attention and validation. Most of the girls look like your everyday, regular, suzy q. Nothing wild looking about them. Now try to find out which ones are the "good" ones to settle down with while knowing they'll lie to your face just to get your commitment.

                Good fucking luck, brother. You're better off looking for the god damn Snuffleufflegus.

                Stay fit. Stay detached. Focus on the things you can control. And enjoy the decline until the pendulum swings back to a more conservative nature.

                [–]Ojisan1 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                The point I draw from this is that none of them are marriageable women, and unfortunately since women in today's society by and large have high numbers, and we know from the data that the higher a woman's number is (anything above 3, really), the more likely she is to get divorced, QED most women aren't marriageable.

                TL;dr - don't get married.

                [–]RedPillFu 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                I fear not the woman who has fucked one guy a thousand times.

                I fear a woman who has fucked a thousand guys one time.

                -Bruce Lee

                [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                They're so mad that the shit they do isn't attractive.

                [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                20 guys at 19? Damn ho, is this shit yo job?

                [–]GoldPisseR 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Even high priced escorts stick to one client

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                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                "Honestly I don't know what it is anyway. He has a past, too. We live in the present, now."

                Spilled milk also has a past and would they drink it?

                What if a guy with aids asked his girl about her number and she said "not your business you have your past too", then he slept with her without protection making her aids positive and when confronted he repiled "you have your past I have mine"?

                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Hey no we both know anything roles reversed would be terribly hypocritical and no female behavior would survive if a male performed it.

                [–]uxl 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                High numbers for girls or guys just reads "herpes" to me.

                [–]GoldPisseR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Which is why an ltr with a decent chick is the smartest strategy.

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                Im a younger guy around these TRP parts, so im a little more shocked, but THREE-HUNDRED MEN!! Holy shit. That is my whole graduating class for God sakes. It definitely matters. And feminists still have the audacity to say that its us men that are the problem.

                [–]pleasewashyourcrotch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                So, is reddit just filled with dumb selfish whores? It really seems that way.

                [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                Interesting take on that here:

                I disagree, but the reason I disagree is a much larger-scale conversation - I don't believe in the innate uniqueness of people like the majority of our culture does. While nobody is EXACTLY alike, people are often alike enough that they function as adequate stand-ins for one another in almost any situation. There's over 7 billion of us now and it takes a special kind of narcissism to believe that you're purely special and unique in any meaningful way.

                The natural conclusion of that, is that at some point in your sexual history, encounters start to be like other encounters rather than unique on their own. If you're number 186, it doesn't matter what your relationship is, because sex with you is going to be basically the same as sex with numbers 36, 72, 91, and 129.

                If I'm not going to be something unique with a person, I'm not going to be with that person.

                [–]D3STRUCTI0N 18 points19 points  (8 children)

                My favorite is about how when American womem go over seas they become unashamed whores......

                Ha, you're me... Minus the whole pretty thing, I look like a bloated toad and I'm in my early 20's.

                Men over seas love American women and I have no idea why. I mean yeah we have some hot ladies, but their women? Fuck they are absolutely stunning.

                Travelling really racks up the number.

                [–]BetterRedThanRed 30 points31 points  (0 children)

                Men over seas love American women and I have no idea why.

                Because they have "I am a young woman looking for some fun and in one week I will be 1000 miles away never bothering you again" written all over them.

                [–]2udaylatif 22 points23 points  (3 children)

                Because men like easy lays. Foreign women away from home are usually sex touring. It's not all sightseeing and museums on vacay.

                [–]Wolfsdorf 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                Women see men as checklist items, they wanna fuck the alpha, the bohemian, the tattoo artist, the hot spanish she met in Barcelona, that good looking mulato from brazil, Jürgen from Austria... for them is just like visiting the Eiffel Tower if they go to Paris, a "must".

                except from beta males and asian males of course.

                [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (2 children)

                I've been living in Europe for a while now and can confirm. 95% of the other Americans I see here are fat fucks in panama hats or sluts trying to "find themselves" beneath piles of european dick, like it's a rite of passage. Some of them are so dumb, desperate, and drunk enough to do it that they'll try to come home with me even after they realize I'm an expat, and presumably embellish the truth a bit to their friends later.

                It's absolutely disgusting. Don't ever stay in a relationship with a girl who plans on traveling to Europe without you.

                [–]randomuserwot 16 points17 points  (1 child)

                The German equivalent for this would be the women travelling to Australia.

                [–]arnoldschwarz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                God I love living on the east coast :')

                Germans, swedes, Norwegian, Danish, French backpackers, damn Europe you make some fine women!

                It's a shame after living in Asia for a while though, most western women look like fat entitled womyn compared :'(

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                [–]Upvote_To_The_Left 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                this is one of the most saddening things I have read.

                it really irks me, on a deep level, knowing the majority of "attractive" women have had way more sex than I have.

                I think its because as a man, I value sex. hence I pursue it as aggressively as possible with modest results. Women get it freely thrown at them.

                There's a part of me that thinks this is really unfair. but that's fucking reality! life aint fair.

                The solution is get out there and start creeping bars, bookstores, malls, supermarkets. Never be ashamed of your sexuality as a man. Dont ever let any women make you feel like a creep because you are trying to get laid. EVER. because the reality is that attractive women get a shit-ton of sex, and society gives them a pass for it.

                If feminism gives women sexual freedom, than men should all stop allowing society to castrate them and pursue sex without being impeded by shame.

                [–]BleauGumms 18 points19 points  (9 children)

                I'm a 31 year old female and I've slept with hundreds of men. My best guess is in the 300 range.

                holy goddamn hell! This bitch must be putting it out daily

                [–]BetterRedThanRed 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                31 year old. Let's assume she started with 18 (conservative guess!).

                13 years. 52 weeks per year. So: About 700 weeks.

                Now let's assume she goes to a club every weekend, this would mean she had a one night stand every second time.

                Funnily enough, I strongly suspect that this was her calculation, too:

                "Well, lets see, I go clubbing every weekend. And I have sex about every second time. And I do this for more than 10 years, so... this... means... about 300 men!"

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                  [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  She also put her tits out... Not a pleasant sight.

                  [–]50-cal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  One and a half guys a month since she was 15...assuming she's slept with 300 men and lost her virginity at 15, which I doubt.

                  [–]TamingDebt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  35 or so new cocks a year from 20 on. If we assume she dated a couple times a year she's basically riding a new cock every single week hahaha

                  [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  I'll bet Ms. 300 isn't a real prize...

                  [–]vincentninja68 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                  Terrance Popp has an interesting way to calculate how many partners is too much. Every partner you've slept with elevates you off the floor by half a foot. Plug in the total partner count and then you drop into free fall. If the fall breaks your legs or kills you, that's too much.

                  [–]DuncanMonroe 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  I am not terribly hung up on numbers, but if it's too much higher than mine, I'm out. I don't keep an exact count as I'm sure I forget a girl or two, but I'm somewhere in the 25-30 range. If a girl has been with 20-30 guys I'm cool. If she's closer to 100, I'm out. "Hundreds"? No thanks, lady. I mean I could always wrap it and finish her pussy off mortal kombat style, but that seems mean.

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                  [–]MajesticShadow104 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  I'm a 31 year old female and I've slept with hundreds of men. My best guess is in the 300 range. It tends to put guys off so I don't offer it up but I'm not ashamed of it so I will tell people if they ask. Also, people often don't believe me when I say my number but I've only ever had one long term boyfriend, I'm tall and pretty and very outgoing, I travelled a lot, and I partied hard in my 20s. All that stuff adds up to lots of sex. Sex is just no big deal to me. I've never had an STD and I got pregnant once and had an abortion.

                  WHAT IN THE GOD DAMN MOTHER OF HOLY FUCK!!!

                  [–]LionLaw 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                  I would be somewhat appalled by their responses if it wasn't for the fact that a vast majority of women on reddit are ugly as fuck

                  [–]jvosh1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                  This reality is how I found TRP.

                  I was in bed with my GF at the time nursing our hangovers. The previous night we went to an EDM-style party involving copious amounts of booze and hard drugs, so needless to say it was pretty rough.

                  Somehow we got on the topic of previous relationships and she asked me how many women I had been with, I was honest with my somewhat low number, of course I asked her the same question...over 70 that she could remember. I was instantly repulsed. I'll spare the conversation, but it took about a week for her to find someone to cheat on me with, but I didn't really care.

                  It opened my eye to the nature of women and TRP. I'm much better off for it.

                  [–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  Should have followed up with questions of how many of them lacked father figures.

                  [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  A girl from my college was having a casual conversation. Not exactly sure what led to her talking about her partner count but I remember not asking about it bc we were just talking about guys. The thing about promiscuous women is that they'll eventually let their partner count be known even if you don't directly ask for it.

                  She's 21 and lost her count after like 18 guys.

                  Now she's dating this reaaaaally naive nice guy but they haven't had sex yet.

                  At the time, I didn't know much about RP but wow, it's scary to see this stuff in real life.

                  Edit: she still hasnt had sex with her new beta bf

                  [–]BattleDrillOneAlpha 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  The funniest thing is that most of these women will talk on Reddit like it is no big deal. They will say that "it shouldn't matter!" and the "past is the past." or some other bull shit. And I kind of believe that they actually think that way. I read their text without emotion or any context behind it, and it seems believable.

                  It is all bull shit. The biggest thing I got out of Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People was that people are looking out for themselves first and foremost. They love hearing about themselves, talking about their wants and needs, and empathizing with their own unique mindset. A famine in North Korea is much less important than the cracked nail they have.

                  With that in mind, we see why they think this. They are subconsciously looking out for their own interests. They don't care if their partner cares or not because if he does care then her self-interest will be harmed; there is always that tinge of doubt. I like how the 19 yr old in that thread, who is at 20+ men, was saying how it doesn't matter. Of course, you believe it doesn't matter because you are just starting your marathon around Promiscuous Avenue; her self-interest is foremost to herself.

                  I had an ex who went to a "party school". She graduated early (she was around 21 at the time), and when we first started talking she was hung up on if her slooty past mattered (it wasn't the past, however). Being Pre-TRP, I said "I don't care."

                  Ha! Big mistake because this is like a green light for them to talk openly about the other dudes they have fucked. I don't know what it is, but she had self-esteem issues about all the dudes she fucked; it was like she was ashamed but secretly proud of it. She always said "I used to be a slut. I want to change."

                  I guess she turned over a new leaf when she decided to have multiple FWBs a week after we broke up, buuuuut that's none of my business

                  [–]SilentAlpha 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  It's not about number per say...it's about what that number indicates in terms of sexual intensity. I better get outstanding quality sex. Our intimate life had better be erotic and adventurous beyond words the higher the count without any 'introducing' from me.

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