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Blue Pill ExampleWoman cuckolds husband, becomes miserable when her husband begins fucking women regularly in response (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by moose_war

Summary: Woman complains to reddit that her husband is having tons of affairs...except she was the one who cheated first with an ex boyfriend. Now she "doesn't know what to do".

Pure gold from dead bedrooms: https://archive.is/eFdP8

Here are some nuggets from the text:

I've been married for 5 years and have a baby son. We've had a lot to go through and a couple of years ago I cheated with an old boyfriend. It was one time and hasn't happened again, nor have I had any contact with him. I should add that at the same time my husband was also actively looking for other women to have sex with, and had a one night stand on a night out with his friend. My husband found out about my cheating and has used it as essentially emotional blackmail to force an "open marriage", i.e. he will fuck whichever random skank he wishes.

Translation: First off, I have a baby son, so feel bad for me even though I was the one who damaged our marriage. I am a victim. I cheated on my husband of 5 years with my alpha ex (oops) and suggested we should have an open marriage. He agreed. To my surprise, my alpha ex never returned my texts and had no desire to fuck me again. But now, my husband has downgraded me to plate status and I have no idea what to do!

He says that these dozens of encounters, including at least 3 which I would definitely call affairs, don't count because he doesn't give them any emotion, but they make me die inside.

Translation: He flipped my own script on me and the hypocrisy is killing me.

We do still have sex about once a week but I feel physically repulsed by him.

Translation: My past doesn't matter. But his does and it disgusts me.

I have told him that the cheating makes me feel this way but he tells me that essentially I deserve it. I know there is no excuse for my cheating but he simply has callous disregard for my feelings.

Translation: He's right. Shit. I do deserve it. But...my FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLIIIIIINGGGGGSSS (note: his feelings were not important when I fucked my ex)

The last time we had sex I asked him to choke me because I literally wanted to black out until it was over.

Translation: I am hoping if I degrade myself and give him the alpha sex he wants, he'll treat me special again. Plus, I do enjoy being choked during sex.

I don't know if there is anything I can do about this. Maybe I just accept that for 75% of the time we have a nice marriage and just tell him that if he wants sex he can get it from these others.

Translation: This open marriage thing is working out for him the way I wanted it to work for me.

I cannot financially afford to get divorced and I don't want to deprive my son of either a mother or a father.

Translation: I am either full of shit or I make more money than him and am now getting a taste of my own medicine, realizing how ridiculous child support payments and alimony would be after consulting my lawyer.

Of course, the comment section is FILLED with comments calling this abusive on the man's part. Nobody even addresses the fact that she opened the floodgates by cheating first. That was just a "mistake".

Look at this choice comment:

You are in an abusive relationship. Get help now No act by you justifies his behavior and you are exposing your child to the same abuse whether he is present or not. Find help. You will not be depriving your child of a father, you will be protecting him from the fallout of the abuse you are being subjected to.

Absolutely hilarious.

Lessons Learned: Redpill strategy and abundance work as a great chess maneuver, even in marriage.


[–][deleted] 215 points216 points  (48 children)

Dread game level: Maximum.

Honestly. Sounds like the guy flipped the script to satisfy his Anger phase. It's actually a neat thought when you think about it.

[–]moose_war[S] 90 points91 points  (30 children)

I honestly would not be surprised if he is making up or exaggerating all of the affairs, honestly. The lingerie in his gym bag was obvious dread. The men on craigslist thing seemed...unexpected and unlikely but whether or not it's true, it's fucking hilarious to see her grossed out by it and squirming.

[–][deleted] 120 points121 points  (5 children)

"Oh it was ONE TIME!!"

Yeah sure bitch.

[–]larrythetomato 68 points69 points  (2 children)

Well, one time on the couch, one time on the cabinet, one time in the shower...

[–]rojo-pildora 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I used a similar line one my ex I turned plate. 'We already fucked so it doesn't increase your partner count!' 'Yeah, good point!' How is this so easy? Lol

[–]darkrood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, If you only count the time of orgasm. Yes, likely it was one time for Chad, too.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 35 points36 points  (23 children)

Yeah, it does sound weird. A family men becoming bisexual all of a sudden? It's possible, but I think it's more probable it's a lie to get to her. Most women are absolutely repulsed by the idea of having sex with a man who has had sex with another man.

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    [–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (4 children)

    Gotta admire his dedication though. She didn't pay attention to him before while they were married. He sure as shit has her attention now.

    [–]tuxedoburrito 16 points17 points  (1 child)

    It's like a train wreck. I can't not look away

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (6 children)

    When women cheat,why do they care when they get cheated on? Do they actually have an emotional requirement to not get cheated on? She has clearly checked out her relationship fucking another man and she can economically provide for herself

    [–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (4 children)

    It's a power thing more than anything man. Three of exs had me on dick rotation. Meaning they would fuck me and then go on to other guys and fuck them in their search for the perfect guy to settle down with. Well I was also fucking other women.

    One found out about because she saw my Craigslist ad, which she supposedly found while looking for a friend. She came over to talk about it and I popped open her phone while opened a bottle of wine.

    She lost her shit and I laughed about it. She was fucking three other dudes and I was only fucking her with a condom on and no oral for her (but I had her suck me off after sex, before sex, sometimes during sex). She was livid.

    Women like to be in control and feel empowered, at least some do, avoid those ones if you are looking for LTR as they are only good as disposable pussy. Submissive women are the only women worth settling down with.

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      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Yup. Now women are our equals. So I treat them like men and no man controls or owns me, and thus no woman does either. I will do as like as much and as long as I can. When I can't, I'll look for new and other ways to do so. Simple as that. When your world is disposable with all the people in it, it can tend to piss off those who seek to control and manipulate you into accomplishing their wants and goals.

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        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It's a crap shoot in that regards. Submissive women are a lot less maintenance and upkeep.

        [–]Denver_Luv 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        deleted What is this?

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        The first part I agree with, the second part, not so much.

        How do you explain Dead Bedrooms and beta bucks? They already had sex, woman withholds sex for weeks or months....

        [–]1Halfjor 84 points85 points  (6 children)

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        Your son...will emulate his father. Do you really want to bring another one of those into the world? Get out while you can. Your son will be so much more well-adjusted for it later!!! That's no role-model. Your spouse is actually a psychological danger to your son through his stupid actions. He may not beat the boy, but he will twist his mind to hate women and screw them over. Your son will probably have to wrestle with a lot of self-hatred and endure a lot of "de-programming" to enter an actual healthy relationship.

        Jesus. These fucking psychos would have his child removed from him forever if they had their way. "another one of those" "your son will be so much more well adjusted" "your son will probably have to wrestle with self-hatred".

        Jesus christ. Sometimes I forget how fucking BP and SJW-esque the communities are on other parts of reddit.

        Those comments read like the most generic buzzword propaganda bullshit.

        [–]moose_war[S] 25 points26 points  (2 children)

        "your son will be so much more well adjusted" "your son will probably have to wrestle with self-hatred".

        Yeah, at this point he is going to have to decide who he hates more, himself, his mom, his "dad" or his biological alpha dad.

        The absolute shit show was started by this woman, that's what makes me laugh. Her hamster is really just going nuts because she doesn't want a divorce because she doesn't want to be a single mother and lose her status but....oh what is she to do?

        Maybe if she was faithful. But her and the commenters want her husband to be a schlub, "forgive" her and roll over while she fucks other men, while he supports a baby that might not be his, while she eventually divorce rapes him.

        Probably waiting for him to be with her and the kid long enough so that he HAS to pay child support.

        Hmm...maybe she shouldn't have cheated with her ex? Nah nah. Her husband is the scumbag.

        [–]totorox 21 points22 points  (1 child)

        Of course. She had to cheat because he made her feel unwanted. Women are the best redpill teachers. In fact this whole redpill community is just men relaying what women have taught them by their actions and words.

        That woman essentially confirmed that women are animalistic children.

        [–]rpreader 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Another comment was about how its abusive that she ASKS to be choked when she CHOOSES to have sex with him.

        The hamster is seriously spinning full speed.

        [–]MyReddit4 233 points234 points  (57 children)

        I just don't understand how a guy like this gets married in the first place. I can't wrap my head around people in "Open Marriages." Doesn't it completely defeat the entire purpose of marriage?

        If the sexes were reversed, that final comment would read: "She was just exploring another side of herself. You need to give her space to explore her feelings, and if you don't you're not supporting her. It's abuse when your emotions are distant in situations like this."

        [–]moose_war[S] 128 points129 points  (7 children)

        She said he goes on MarriedTRP in the comments, so maybe he asked for suggestions and it's just a ploy for dread game.

        Either way it worked.

        If the sexes were reversed, that final comment would read: "She was just exploring another side of herself. You need to give her space to explore her feelings, and if you don't you're not supporting her. It's abuse when your emotions are distant in situations like this."

        Exactly! But, he's a man, so he's just a mean old abusive misogynist. Better take his son from him lest he learn how to deal with women's insane bullshit.

        [–]Quintus_Pillus 100 points101 points  (2 children)

        She said he goes on MarriedTRP in the comments

        Then this dude should post his side of the story and I bet it's going to look very different from what we're reading here.

        [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        Id be incredibly interested in seeing that

        [–]RPSigmaStigma 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        She said he goes on MarriedTRP

        Anyone want some popcorn? This could get interesting.

        [–]throwaway320_ 25 points26 points  (1 child)

        She said he goes on MarriedTRP in the comments

        That really confirms that TRP works, regardless of what people might say.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        Sounds like he got complacent initially and slipped from 50-75% Alpha down to 25-50% Alpha.

        She kicked the hornet's nest by fucking her Ex and found out he was capable of like 90%+ Alpha and now she wants him back but he wont have none of it.

        [–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (13 children)

        What do they even mean get help?

        Like a divorce attorney is the only person that she could call. She going to call the cops saying "my husband is having consenual sex with another woman?!"

        Seriously the delusion is real. He should get a divorce before she is entitled to half of his earnings FOREVER. That's how it works in my state after a certain number of years.

        [–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

        Ask to get choked, call cops, make a scene bonus points if pregnant.

        That's what they mean by "help" as anyone else would just say "what did you expect you dumb bitch?".

        [–]TerryYockey 19 points20 points  (11 children)

        I don't know what state you're in, but in California once a marriage hits 10 years, they get lifetime alimony.

        [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (6 children)

        Hold on a minute. WHAT THE FUCK do you mean by "lifetime alimony"?

        [–]randompants123 8 points9 points  (5 children)

        Pretty sure they get alimony until you die or they do.

        [–]hectortamerofwhores 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        Or until you jump ship to some country without extradition... Why don't more guys getting fucked by alimony do that, btw?

        [–]NormanoSilurian 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, seems a logical response. Emigrating to Brazil might be quite pleasant after a nasty break up :)

        [–]StrokeGameHusky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Also, if she remarries, she forfeits alimony (90% sure)

        [–]Super-Saiyajin 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        THANK YOU!!! Tidbits like these are why I visit TRP.

        Yet ANOTHER why I'm NEVER moving to California. Fuck that place!

        [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child)

        If the sexes were reversed, that final comment would read: "She was just exploring another side of herself. You need to give her space to explore her feelings, and if you don't you're not supporting her. It's abuse when your emotions are distant in situations like this."

        You should flip the sexes and make that very post in the thread. It would be hilarious.

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          [–]munky82 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Next time use a throwaway, and go to relationship_advice

          [–][deleted] 147 points148 points  (39 children)

          You are in an abusive relationship. Get help now No act by you justifies his behavior and you are exposing your child to the same abuse whether he is present or not. Find help. You will not be depriving your child of a father, you will be protecting him from the fallout of the abuse you are being subjected to. With his behavior you are virtually guaranteed full custody and financial support Collect as much evidence of his behavior as possible and find a safe place to stay. This is about your sons future being in an environment where his mother and protector is demeaned and devalued.

          Most upvoted comment, I hate these fucking SJW

          [–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (6 children)

          NO ACT?

          The mental gymnastics are Olympic worthy.

          [–][deleted] 100 points101 points  (4 children)

          "Your cheating on him in no way justifies his cheating on you!" WTF?

          [–][deleted] 69 points70 points  (0 children)

          The entitlement is unreal and proof of everything TRP says about women.

          [–]Super-Saiyajin 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          Of course man! She's got that Pussy Pass™!

          [–]StrokeGameHusky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          But wait! Buy one Pussy Pass™, and get free Alimony! For life!

          [–]Lt_Muffintoes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Well it kind of doesn't. It justifies him ditching her and get losing EVERYTHING, but if you're going to fuck around in a marriage, why bother being married?

          [–]1xwm 24 points25 points  (0 children)

          Remind me of bill burs piece on "no reason to hit a woman." Best comic still alive.

          [–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (1 child)

          To sjw every man is abusive

          [–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (1 child)

          "If the whore cheats, she's a special snowflake who made a tiny mistake which doesn't deserve to even be acknowledged.

          If the man cheats (IN RESPONSE TO THE WHORE CHEATING) he is an abuser, psychopath, and monster..."

          That hamster must be in really good shape from all that exercise.

          [–]Eloni 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          Sadly the only part of a SJW in good shape is her hamster.

          [–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 42 points43 points  (14 children)

          Their logic is absolutely twisted and I can say exactly why.

          In my home country polygamy is legal. My dad has two wives. He would alternate between each wife (so one night spent with my mom; the next spent with my step-mom and so on). As you can expect my mom hated this arrangement. She especially hated my step mom (and vice versa).

          The amount of times I was used as an emotional tampon by mom are way more than I can count. I was the only child between my mom and my dad (my dad had other kids with my step mom) so I would get an earful from my mom as soon as he was out of the door. "Your dad doesn't do enough... You shouldn't even speak to your step mom... You're not allowed to sleep at your step-moms house... Your dad's family is not your real family, only my family is your family... etc."

          The result was that I was basically cut off from interacting with my step-mom and half siblings. Not only that but I resented my dad for reasons that I now see were absolutely trivial. In simple terms, because of my mom's inability to reconcile the fact that my dad had options, I lost valuable years to connect with my dad as a result of all the bullshit she fed me.

          I ignored the fact that my dad gave me a very privileged life. I wasn't realizing, that as a result of all the bs from my mom, I was the one actually pushing my dad away. I saw only what my mom wanted me to see and it took me a fucking long time to realize that for myself. In short, my mom was the abusive one, not my dad. All because she couldn't accept the fact that he had options and she didn't.

          Oh and did I mention my mom was divorced before my dad married her?

          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (13 children)

          Wow, that's out there. Where are you from?

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 4 points5 points  (12 children)

          I'm guessing middle east somewhere... maybe Iran, Dubai or Saudi Arabia.

          [–]1Zackcid 1 point2 points  (11 children)

          I'd guess an African country, middle east tends to be monogamous.

          [–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 3 points4 points  (6 children)

          You guessed right. I'm from Kenya, but I moved to Canada a long time ago.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 0 points1 point  (5 children)

          Totally unrelated curiosity, how many other ex Muslims do you know? And does that mean non-religious, a new religion, spiritual, or none?

          How did you learn yourself out of that?

          [–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          If I had to say I would say agnostic. Can't really speak to whether or not there's a higher power as it's a personal belief that human beings don't really know shit. In that respect, absolute conclusions are an exercise in futility.

          As for who I know who's the same, my circle is small. Once I started meditating regularly I found a certain peace that religion could not give me. It was simply a matter of realizing that rather than give myself up to a certain deity or religion, I could trust in my own agency.

          Simply put, I'm in charge of my own fate. I choose the people I give the time of day to, and block out the rest. In that way, there's a level of control to my own existence. I'm not on some deterministic path, rather I make my own way through life.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 3 points4 points  (3 children)

          I know a few middle eastern guys and they all have fathers who have 2 or more wives. This may be selection bias though since they're here in North America and thus must be wealthy enough to travel around the world.

          In any case from what I understand in Islam/Muslim law it's perfectly legit for a dude to have multiple wives (more so than Mormons in Christianity). What isn't legit is for him to go banging sluts outside of his marriage(s).

          [–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Ex-muslim so I can weigh in. Islam allows polygamy because it takes into account the polygamous nature of men. It also ensures that women's hypergamous nature is taken care of because if you're fit enough to have multiple wives, then you're fit enough to associate with, period.

          Also from what I've heard from my sister (also a second wife) polygamy adds extra security because at least she knows who the other women in her husband's life are. Incidentally she's a better second wife to her husband than my mom is to my dad (probably cause she was burned in the divorce).

          In any case, polygamy is legal and part of the constitution in Kenya. The amount of politicians and lawmakers with side pieces made it a necessity.

          [–]1Zackcid 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          That sounds about right. If a man can afford to support multiple wives, then where's the issue? For 99% of our mating history, it's always been about exchanging resources for vagina.

          [–]epixs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Yeah and the reasoning behind this is, back in the day most of the alpha men would get married to daughters from other kingdoms kings. Thus creating a monopoly of the wealth and control. There are specific citations where people would marry 3-4 different women from different regions to act as a way of peace and contingency for further economic and political relations.

          It does not make sense for the same thing today since things have obviously changed, but alot of those middleeast people are still very very old fashioned.

          Not saying its a good or bad thing, but something to think about.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (9 children)

          Check out the thread on TBP about this. It's so blatantly irrational I can't see how anybody can take those people seriously.

          Interesting note: she explains that "dread game" has the opposite intended effect - it kills her sex drive completely, regarding all men, and makes her feel physically repulsed by him specifically.

          Because opening up and adding more kink to the bedroom = completely dead sex drive.

          There's only so long you can maintain that dynamic before she gets fed up with it and either stops caring about pleasing you (because after a long enough time of sustained dread game, it will feel futile to her since nothing she does seems to stop it), or just straight up dumps you because she's tired of the constant implied threat.

          That's how a man would think, sure. I wonder how OP will respond to it? Oh, she made an edit:

          I want to tell him to fuck off when he does that but then I feel like I'm the one in the wrong for rejecting him.

          Do I even have to comment more?

          IMPORTANT SIDE NOTE! Do not post over at TBP. Apparently any time somebody disagrees with them over there they report it to the admins as TRP brigading.

          Although that brings up another thought, and my problem with internet moderation: it's too easy to manipulate. How do they know who's actually with TRP? If we wanted to get TBP banned all we'd have to do is create a bunch of fake TBP accounts, stage a bunch of "brigades", blame them, and bam they're gone. Come to think of it with just a few dedicated folks and a bunch of time one could probably get just about any subreddit banned that they want. Hopefully I'm not giving them any ideas...

          [–]darkrood 1 point2 points  (5 children)

          Dude, I have trouble looking at TBP. Is that an actual sub? Who would self identified with the neckbeard?

          Those # of Subs have to be rper trolling

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          I know at least some of them are serious. There's also PurplePillDebate.

          Either way it says quite a bit about an opinion when bystanders can't tell the difference between it and satire.

          [–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          opinion when bystanders can't tell the difference between it and satire.

          I think that that's called Poe's Law.

          [–]LukesLikeIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It's a sub of people that seem to be unnaturally obsessed with is. The best thing to do is just ignore it.

          [–]Bwhitty23 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          So what is that sub? Is it full of men and women that are aware of red pill truths and reject or a satire, or anti sub? I'm not sure cause it seems they get the same stuff.

          [–]BeautyQuark 67 points68 points  (18 children)

          The thing that sticks out is the way she talks of her son. I bet the kid is from HER affair, and the husband knows it and has refused to play the father roll and is not on the birth certificate. Honestly it sounds like she is using the guy for money and support which may not be available in a divorce.

          [–]WavesBeneath 89 points90 points  (16 children)

          Notice how she only refers to the kid as "my son."

          That kid is definitely not his. Honestly, he should just leave and try to not get destroyed with alimony/child support.

          [–]BlatantTRPThrowaway 20 points21 points  (14 children)

          Nah, I don't buy that. The facts make clear he's pretty aware of TRP. If he is, then one of the first things on his "NOT to-do" list is getting stuck paying child support for another guy's seed.

          This child is probably his. However, he's putting the kid in a bad spot, as well as himself. What he's doing now is good short-term anger phase, but bad long-term sexual strategy because now he has a ghost of a family haunting him.

          [–]bluedrygrass 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          What he's doing now is good short-term anger phase, but bad long-term sexual strategy because now he has a ghost of a family haunting him.

          There aren't really other options, beside immediate divorce. And all that started from her, so she's the one living with a ghost of a family. He only reacted.

          [–]BeautyQuark 3 points4 points  (11 children)

          I agree that it is a paradox. He does appear to have some RP in him. However, he is supposedly banging dudes, and hitting up craigslist. That also screams loser, and not very RP. She typed that post with a lot of trickle truth indicators.

          She purposefully did not refer to the kid as our kid, and instead my kid. She does not refer to the relationship between the kid and husband. My guess is she is sticking it out until she can stick him with child support after he plays a fatherly role to the kid. She is looking for sympathy and the you go girl support to fuck him over and feel good i.e. hamster food.

          In the end, my take was this guy is not bright, and just acting out like a child.

          [–]Hegemott 1 point2 points  (10 children)

          When saying it's not very RP, I assume you mean using Craigslist for hookups?

          [–]BeautyQuark 5 points6 points  (9 children)

          Everything about the guy sounds childish. He is married to a woman, but likes men as well, random hookups, craigslist hookups, and leaving lingerie for his wife to find. At the same time he has a kid in the house that may or may not be his. Honestly he sounds like a pissed off kid that is just trying to get even with the bitch that ripped his heart out.

          That is not the RP way. The RP in abstraction is about self-actualization and understanding a man's place in the universe. Sexual strategy may be immoral, but the implementation of the strategy will never be immoral. Sex does not occur in a vacuum it occurs in society, and as such morals exist. A RP man should have a congruent strategy with regards to sex; any strategy as long as it is congruent is respectable. The fact that he married a woman and is having sex with men, and craigslist encounters means he is not congruent. He should not have married a woman if that was his sexual desires. A basic tenet of TRP is leave the woman better than you found her.

          [–]vzhu 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          We're only hearing one side of the story and from her comments the time line of events is pretty convoluted.

          [–]BeautyQuark 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Agreed that she may be bullshitting. However, she was saying she is ashamed of his behavior and does not want the social fallout from this getting out. Which infers the kid is not his, and he is doing this shit to make her hurt. As the minute she files, he probably has promised to let the world know she got pregnant by another man while they were married. He would have the proof in the form of the birth certificate and she would have the word of a confirmed adulterous woman. If there is one thing women disprove of more than men, it would be making other women look bad.

          Overall, it is one fucked up situation where one of them should be an adult and just end it.

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          The birth certificate will by default say that the mothers husband is the father. He can only be sure by a DNA test.

          [–]BeautyQuark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Depends on the local government, and whether or not he had a paternity test.

          [–]SpicyMcHaggis206 3 points4 points  (4 children)

          The fact that he married a woman and is having sex with men, and craigslist encounters means he is not congruent. He should not have married a woman if that was his sexual desires.

          So are you saying according to RP bisexual people should not get married?

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          yeah but "divorce is not a financial option"

          reads to me like "we're both poor but i need his help"

          [–]moose_war[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Good point. Kid is a baby right now so that would make sense.

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            [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 8 points9 points  (1 child)

            Even if the dude was on here do you think he would want to reveal himself? I doubt it. It'd possibly be used against him at the child custody hearing as it is.

            [–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (13 children)

            I agree with the advice that she should just leave, but for different reasons. I believe she fucked up and he is simply reacting to her fucked up. Their both being assholes and the relationship is simply done. She should leave because she destroyed the relationship and now has to deal with his vindictiveness.

            [–]moose_war[S] 50 points51 points  (5 children)

            oh the whole thing is a total shit show. But that's what marriage is. This is better than her fucking a new boytoy in their bed every night while he cries in the bathroom.

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              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              or they just both don't make a crazy amount of money, don't have many assets and so she wouldn't really get much out of a divorce other than thousands of dollars of court and legal fees. Alimony isn't a common thing in most parts of the world, I live in Canada and i've never heard of any woman receiving alimony.

              If the husband only makes 40k a year and the wife is unemployed or making 30k a year or whatever the courts are not going to award her alimony. That pretty much only happens if the husband makes 100k+ a year and the wife is unemployed.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I can't remember where but someone posted a joe rogan podcast with a guy Dave L-something from Canada. He was explaining how fucked he got from his divorce in Canada. He did have 2 kids. Owing some ridiculous 18000 a month in child support/alimony. plus numerous other legal fees. She cheated on him and divorced him. She got half and bought a million dollar house or some shit.

              Just wanted to put a little damper on that.

              [–]the_code_always_wins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Alimony doesn't gauruntee an easy life. Living separately is more expensive than living together. If mom isn't working while dad earns 10 bucks an hour at the warehouse, they really can't afford to live separately.

              And if she isn't educated, any job she gets is going to get eaten up by daycare costs.

              [–]TheStoneyVibes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              I am vindictive as shit when it comes to shit like this. I cant help it. I would do the same thing this dude's doing

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              This is the correct response. There's no saving this thing, she fired the first shot but he's not going down without a fight.

              [–]curiousthis 18 points19 points  (0 children)

              It was one time and hasn't happened again, nor have I had any contact with him.

              Really? Give it a few days - trickle truth will out.

              I should add that at the same time after he found out, my husband was also started actively looking for other women to have sex with, and had a one night stand on a night out with his friend.

              There. FTFH.

              [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

              I don't know if there is anything I can do about this. Maybe I just accept that for 75% of the time we have a nice marriage and just tell him that if he wants sex he can get it from these others.

              Thats what you wanted bitch.

              [–][deleted]  (5 children)

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              [–]Limekill 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              What they do, not what they say.

              Fuck - that comment is gold. (opening post is upvoted too).

              [–]FortunateBum 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Yeah, come on! What else do you need to read?

              Meanwhile, over in Dead Bedrooms, "I treat my wife like gold and we've had sex once in the last three years."

              The pattern is, treat a woman like total shit and she'll fuck you all the time. Treat her nice, and she'll never want to have sex with you. And women say it's men who are fucked up.

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              you mean...

              don't treat her like the centre of your world, harbor no covert contracts, put your needs first, be a man with options, outcome indpendance, and keep your own frame...

              you're seeing it, but you're only seeing the skin. you have to peel it back to see the fruit young one

              [–]newls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              In sentences like that, ignore everything before the "but".

              [–]1favours_of_the_moon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              Translation: He flipped my own script on me and the hypocrisy is killing me.

              This goes to my thesis. Her cheating on him was a blatant power play. If it was just the sex, combined with emotional indifference, then she would not mind it if he was merely experiencing physical pleasure with others.

              However sex isn't just physical pleasure for these people. It's a power trip. She feels tingles when she's cuckolding him, because it makes her feel like she is powerful. But when he does it, it's wrong. Because now she doesn't feel like she has "the power."

              These commenters are right, this is an abusive relationship. But it's not the husband being abusive. He's just keeping it real. She's the one shit testing and playing obvious mind games.

              If she divorce raped him, would these commenters view THAT as abuse? Hell no.

              [–]redestofthereds 15 points16 points  (12 children)

              has used it as essentially emotional blackmail to force an "open marriage",

              and suggested we should have an open marriage. He agreed.

              New redpiller here. How do you infer that she initiated the open marriage or how it was her notion to begin with? I read the main text but I still didn't see anything that would confirm that she came up with the idea. Was this though trickle truth in the comments? Or did you gather that when she said that " We've had a lot to go through"?

              Excellent read though.

              [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

              When she said open marriage she only saw her "reality" and it included him being a groveling dog to her while she had fun. She literally could not comprehend it going any other way which is why she feels like he is doing something wrong. He broke her emotional reality with actual reality and she can't understand it.

              [–]Super-Saiyajin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              He broke her emotional reality with actual reality and she can't understand it.

              I LOVED reading this part.

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                [–]BattleDrillOneAlpha 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                I no idea why OP decided to leave reading comprehension at the door. The post is very clear in that he was the one that suggested the open relationship. Of course, you have to take some liberties because people want to put their best foot forward and seem like the victim in these types of posts.

                If anything can be really analyzed its that she is either lying about the homosexual thing and the obvious "when I cheated he was going to cheat..." bull shit women say.

                This post should have been about the lack of accountability this woman shows and not the generic analysis that gets so many upvotes nowadays. Imagine if roles were reversed:

                Husband cheats with ex. Wife suggests open relationship. Husband reluctantly agrees. Wife is fucking 3-4 dudes and some women on Craigslist. Husband feels bad now

                No one would be calling the wife an abuser. They would tell the husband he cheated first then tell him he brought it on himself for accepting the open relationship.

                [–]1needathrowawayplease 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Had to scroll down way too far to find this post. Guess reading is too hard.

                [–]redestofthereds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I forget that there's a lot of youngsters here and I tend to give everybody the benefit of the doubt (Which is why I'm here).

                I just think the guy regretted marrying her when he discovered TRP and now he's just trying to get all the mileage he can out of his sex life without getting divorced raped.

                [–]1needathrowawayplease 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                The OP misread/misinterpreted the post and everyone here seems to have just gone along with his mistake rather than reading the DB post and seeing that the guy was also cheating and forced the open marriage.

                Kinda a great example of what this sub is becoming more and more about, reinforcing one's own views and values without regard for the facts of a situation. Blind adherence to dogma. RP/BP circlejerking.

                [–]BloodQueef_McOral 23 points24 points  (1 child)

                This boils down to one partner doing something the other doesn't like, and continues to do it. Doesn't matter if it is sex, smoking, drugs, parasailing, Dutch Ovens, or ping pong. Doesn't matter who started it. If the person doesn't change, then you either accept it or leave. That's it.

                [–]machimus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                The last time we had sex I asked him to choke me because I literally wanted to black out until it was over.

                M-hm. I'm sure that's why. Sounds like it's a little more complicated than she lets on.

                [–]santander26 8 points9 points  (8 children)

                Day by day i hate marriage. What the fuck are these people doing?

                [–]totorox 8 points9 points  (7 children)

                Being swindled, used, scammed, financially raped, castrated, cuckolded, stripped of parental rights and dignity, falsely accused of abusing their own children, contributing to the death of their people, race and civilization, all for the greater glory of serving the Jew. Oops sorry, too much redpill for this sub.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

                As I am a Jew, you are correct. Goym are rather stupid and pathetic, and easily controlled and harvested as chattel. Goym have little interest in self-improvement or betterment. Their intellect is quite limited and while there are numerous solutions to make the world and their lives a better place.

                They continue to be angry over their small penises, limited ability for income, and the fact their women love our uncapped amazing Jewish penises. Go on goym, serve your purpose.

                [–]watersign 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                x2. i love goyims (particulary aryans) but the vast majority of CIS white males are pretty naive and easily manipulated unfortunately. same w/ the womynz

                [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Excellent takedown.

                The tombstone on this marriage should read:

                Her: "I am a lying, cheating whore. But my hubby found out and treated me like a lying, cheating whore and me no like."

                Husband: "I filled her with so much dread, my new nickname is Kierkegaard."

                [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

                The last time we had sex I asked him to choke me because I literally wanted to black out until it was over.

                Oh shut the fuck up. Yes that's why. That's some super lying right there. Oh maybe if I take this kink, the men online will side with me (but the women deep down all have this kink, but they're on my side regardless!)

                [–]_newbeginnings_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Lol I just recently found out how many women actually love to get choked during sex...and damn it if I don't bust the biggest nut every time I do it to them.

                [–]AureliusThunderkok 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                Damn man...that poor kid. The issues are too damn high!

                [–]JohnPeel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                The last time we had sex I asked him to choke me because I literally wanted to black out until it was over.

                Holy fuck, the lady doth protest too much I think.

                [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (5 children)

                A lot of the shit he's doing I can't condone. Going to glory holes? Bro, just get a divorce, no point in staying married if this is what you're gonna do.

                [–]n_dois 26 points27 points  (0 children)

                Girls 2nd most used shame tactic. 1st one is dicks size.

                [–]DaphneDK 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Are glory holes even a real thing? I thought it was something which only existed in porn. I'm sure the 99% of the people on the other side of any glory hole would be boys or totally skanky women. Picking women up from craiglist also seems rather sleazy.

                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                My guess is he knows the marriage is over, and she will most likely divorce rape him good.. Probably trying to get under her skin first

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                I think he's probably just running a dread game honestly

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Dread game means he still cares.. I think he's in straight don't give a fuck mode

                [–]Sdom1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                I know it reads like a revenge fantasy for every guy that's ever gotten cheated on, but really it just sounds fucked up and I know I wouldn't want to be in that mess even if I had the power advantage.

                Also, (and this isn't defending her because she's a dirty, cheating whore) if I were her I'd refuse to have sex with him if he is even thinking about hooking up with men. I'm all for people being able to live their own lives, but the risk of STDs and HIV in particular just skyrockets due to the biological realites of anal sex and the promiscuity of gay men. In my single life, I refused to hook up with a girl that was fucking a bisexual guy because it's just not worth the risk.

                [–]IamRebornRP 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                Asking to be choked into unconsciousness so you can endure the act is something different.
                

                It sounds like the only way to endure sex with a red pill subscriber.

                He will give you a disease. I don't even want to google risks of transmitting some STDs via breast milk. You have so much to lose here just on the health angle. You clearly won't do it for yourself, but you need to protect yourself for your son's sake.

                It's crazy how many people try to blame TRP. I'm new here, and I've heard about how this sub is hated but damn.

                [–]totorox 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                That's how we grow. They can't help but let their hate out, even when they know this gives us new members.

                As my old teacher loved to say only lies need to be repeated constantly. A truth needs to be said only once then it will grow by itself (and the nurturing waters of Reality).

                [–]1CowardlyPetrov 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                I disagree. A man needs to remind himself of truths daily. He needs to remind himself of AWALT or he will let himself be destroyed by women. He has to remind himself of discipline or he will destroy himself through hedonism.

                [–]kingofthorns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                That's exactly how I landed in TRP. I was in a sub where even saying "the red pill" was enough to catch a ban. How could I not come searching?

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                THOSE MOTHERFUCKING COMMENTS ARGHHHH

                [–]StarDestinyGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Not even a single comment saying this is her fault for cheating on her husband...

                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                This is exactly how you handle a cheater. Make them think you're staying, then sleep around and call their bluff when they pretend it hurts.

                [–]Machismo01 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Anybody read it? It sounds like he's hooking up with random men on Craigslist as well.

                The guy might have a problem. That's some risky behavior which puts it in a different light. Stands with random people can be bad news. Stands with random gay dudes can be even riskier.

                They both be fucked up.

                [–]totorox 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                he simply has callous disregard for my feelings.

                oh really? when did a woman ever show anything but exactly that to men's feelings or whatever else they need, except when these are enforced?

                it's eye-opening to see so many comments calling hers an abusive relationship, when her husband is merely acting like all women do: getting his own and enforcing it by any means necessary.

                [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I think you misread the part about who wanted the open relationship. That was the husband after finding out she cheated, that way he could get his dick wet with others. I can't say I blame him and would be checking out of the relationship as well.

                [–]darthskids 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Two things.

                One, this is exactly how you handle a cheating woman in a marriage.

                Two, don't overestimate how good child support is. It might be a lot of money, but it's not nearly as much as having access to the entire pot of gold. She knows that no one else is going to pay for her dumb ass. Thats why she she's not filing for divorce. Instead, she's hamstering it all away. Pretty soon she'll be just fine being a plate with income.

                [–]TheBadGod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Hm. It reminds me of my 10 year relationship. She's my son's mother, but we aren't together anymore.

                We hooked up right out of highschool, taking each other's virginity. I wanted to "give her a chance" because she had a crush on me since middle school. I had been hooking up with her BFF the years in between.

                She had I had gotten serious, but somewhere around the one or two year mark, I found out she cheated on me with an old friend. I was determined to go the whole relationship without any "outside interference."

                But, after finding out what happened, I just "stopped saying no." I'd have one or two side relationships every year for the next decade. I used to dump her all the time and nothing would change. We stayed together until she completed her role in my life.

                It's nice to be able to identify this kind of behavioral transformation as common, thanks to TRP. I wish 18-year-old me had TRP fourteen years ago.

                [–]AddictedSupercrush 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                The comments are way better than the actual story. Look at all those online white knights saddling up on their stallions to rescue the maiden.

                [–]Fthebluepill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Well to be honest this traditional style of marriage was fucked from the start. They were both looking for sex actively at the same time from other people. I rest my case

                [–]watersign 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                lol. its crazy how all these stories have the same narrative. unfucking believable...AWALT

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                I should add that at the same time my husband was also actively looking for other women to have sex with, and had a one night stand on a night out with his friend.

                At the same time meaning... prior to her cheating? Or soon after?

                Or literally simultaneously?

                [–]moose_war[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                If you look in the comments, she says his hooking up with men and women is what made her go and cheat...she flip flops the story throughout the whole thing.

                [–]Goldfulgore 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                The last time we had sex I asked him to choke me because I literally wanted to black out until it was over.

                The bitch enjoys being treated like this. She loves it!

                [–]FortunateBum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                So she wants to black out during sex and he's the one with the problem? This woman is a train wreck and she doesn't even realize it.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Wait so they're saying he's abusive because of his actions, but what about her?

                [–]moose_war[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                That was just "one mistake". She did nothing wrong, essentially. tee-hee

                [–]javi404 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                She has two choices, leave and be plate or stay and be plate. After reading through the whole thing including her update my guess is that her fairytail life she was always promised fell apart when she cheated and the realities of life are settling in. She is depressed about it and she mentions she feels disgusting fat etc. He still gives her sexual attention which means he us actually being nice. He could have filled for divorce when she cheated.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

                Aaand this is where I start to question tapping out of this sub. There's nothing "alpha" or "redpilled" about being vindictive and dragging your wife through the emotional coals of fucking random women for years. She fucked up. She cheated, and that's when he should've just left her. What the fuck is to be gained by what he's doing? Making her feel like shit? OK, yeah sure, great. But is that it? Is that what this guy's life has become? Just a man seeking strange pussy every night to strike back at a person that betrayed his trust and rubbing it in her face? That's no way to live, and there's nothing manly or admirable about it. It's fucking childish. It's disheartening that this post has gotten so many upvotes. I have gotten a lot of value from this sub in the past, but it's the popularity of posts like this that make me realize there are still guys on this sub with some very skewed views on what it means to be "redpilled".

                [–]Endorsed ContributorDenswend 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Yeah, this is pretty abusive.

                But then again, locking up rapists and pedophiles is abusive too. Imagine being stuck in a concrete cell with nasty criminals for a long long time.

                So yeah, this might be asshole move on his part, "emotionally abusive", but this is totally just.

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                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  But the guy seems to trying to make the most of a shit situation.

                  True. I completely can relate to the mindset, I just don't think it's healthy for either side at this point, but I doubt anyone is being logical here.

                  [–]JablesRadio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Blue pillers claiming that the kid is experiencing abuse via the dad's actions then literally telling the wife to use the kid for her own benefit.

                  Fucking insane.

                  [–]LandShark805 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  The last time we had sex I asked him to choke me because I literally wanted to black out until it was over.

                  this does sound like a very large potential trap.

                  [–]malariasucks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  the guy sounds insane and probably clinically a sexaholic

                  he's fuckin guys too if you missed that part as well.

                  third part... she's likely either lying or she's lying. definitely a troll vibe

                  [–]prodigy2throw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  When I first joined TRP posts like this turned me incredibly angry, depressed and bitter. Not that I've internalized TRP more, all I can do is laugh to myself and move along.

                  [–]crimson_capsule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  It would be interesting to know her age...I bet mids 30s. Here is my take since it is coming from a woman. The two got married because he was beta bux then zero sex ensued as is typical. She cheated on him then proposed an open marriage when he wanted a divorce because she was prego with the ex's child and knew she needed financial support or didnt want to face embarassment, whatever. Now he is just simply throwing it back at her and creating a fake abundance for himself and it is driving her crazy (planting lingerie, letting her find texts, emails) which builds his value and she spreads whenever he wants (if he was getting it elsewhere he would have stopped banging her way back). Of course she has a victims mentality because this beta has her spreading her legs at his whim and she cant control it. Its like her alpha ex but he was so hawwwtt so it is tearing her little hamster to pieces knowing this beta is getting it from her and its even a little kinky here and there. Like someone mentioned here he probably found trp at some point to his extreme benefit.

                  [–]Doctorpepperpants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I thought I was past the anger phase, but the reading the comments on that post make me absolutely furious.

                  [–]VarsitySlutTeamCpt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  I find the consequences of these things so humorous.

                  The man took up the promise that he will take care of his wife and child. Sacrifice his hobbies, be loyal to his wife, and provide roof over his family. Beign selfish is out the window so does nights out with his friends are gone and the money for his hobbies goes to pay thhe bills. His priority is his family.

                  There is no room for one mistake.

                  It does not make sense to forgive someone of infedility when you've given your whole life to your marriage. All these things that you given up existed prior to the infedility. Continuing the same sacrifice afterwards basically says that he has no self-respect.

                  The woman opened a plethora of demons that the man have kept closed. He could of either left, forgiven, or extract revenge. He is not obligated to chose any of these but he chose the maximum level of dread.

                  You made your bed now you get to sleep on it.

                  [–]moose_war[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  A good metaphor for this situation is that these two are on a ship at sea. She, the first mate, created a giant hole in the ship when she was drunk on rum and then, as water began to flow and the ship started slowly sinking, lazily asked him, the Captain, to patch it up.

                  Instead, he lit the only lifeboat on fire and started drinking the rest of the rum.

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