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Rant/VentingCollege: Just Fucking Try (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by becoolstaynschool

If there's one group of people in this country that have the most potential to get consistently laid, make shit tons of friends, and overall have a fucking blast, its college dudes. Despite that fact, the vast majority of college guys are complete pussies with no direction, game, or drive.

Reading up about the dynamics of uni here on TRP, the general consensus is that college is just a microcosm of the 'real world', with similar metrics for success and failure. The big difference between college and the 'real world' however, is that in the 'real world', there exists a certain extant pressure on men to become independent (moving out of the house, getting a career) and to get into a LTR (The holidays are coming up. I guarantee you will be asked a number of times why you haven't gotten married yet at your family gathering). In college, little to none of that pressure exists. Generally speaking, there are only two real pressures that fundamentally exist in college: 1. Succeed academically and 2. Make a few friends. While I agree that societal pressure is bullshit and forces men to fall into a traditional, oftentimes beta life, the freedom of college, coupled with the aforementioned lack of parental or societal pressure to 'grow up' has had an incredibly detrimental effect on college guys.

College guys have gotten too fucking comfortable. The average college guy settles down into a social group (most likely in a predominately-male group with low overall SMV), halfway bullshits through their classes and then calls it quits. Instead of living it up according to their potential as young college kids with no responsibility surrounded by pussy, I can tell you that most guys on campus are spending their nights watching some stupid shit on Netflix or jacking off or playing video games. What a fucking waste.

For those of us who have seen the other side of the coin and have lived in the 'real world', the waste of potential that college guys just piss away into a Kleenex is fucking disgusting. If you want a real example of this apathy, ask your average freshman girl what she's doing on a Friday night, and then ask your average college guy. Most college girls group up and go out to clubs and frats looking for fun and alcohol (and validation). Most college guys sit at home and sleep. Starting to see a pattern here?

Remember the 80/20 or 90/10 rule? In college, i'd wager that the real number is closer to a 95/5 rule. Most guys don't even fucking try, despite the fact that they're surrounded by some of the horniest and hottest girls they'll ever be around their entire lives. Here's the thing, though. The guys that DO try, the guys that lift, the guys that ACTUALLY put themselves out there to be rejected and judged outside of their complacent lifestyles and social groups (and genuinely DGAF about it, either) are literally fucking winning college.

The moral of this longwinded post is this. If you are a college-aged guy, just fucking TRY. If you get your ass into the gym (which you're already paying for with tuition, by the way) lift, practice game, meet girls and DGAF, you're already 3/4 of the way elevated over your peers. Stop falling into your bullshit comfortable lifestyle. Live up to your god damn potential and get out there. Just fucking try.


[–]grimmjoww 388 points389 points  (36 children)

You just described me and my friends, fuck.

[–]becoolstaynschool[S] 181 points182 points  (31 children)

Self-awareness is often the first step in your journey, man.

Sorry to break it to you--and I may just be grasping at nothing--but you're fucked if your friends are also betas who are wasting their time. The hardest part, if you so choose to start living up to your potential and maxing out your college game, is going to be breaking away from the crabs in the bucket that surround you.

If you have to, go out alone. Lift alone. Improve alone.

Ain't gonna be easy, and it sure as hell is going to be lonely. Embrace the fact that you're a man working on improving himself; cutting out the dead weight will be a difficult but necessary step. However, when you finally break into a high value social group with other likeminded and motivated guys, you'll realize it was all worth it.

[–]krsuma 31 points32 points  (0 children)

same, despite the fact that I have no problem whatsoever getting girls and with a decent social circle, im doing jack shit in studies. thanks for the wake up call.

[–]grimmjoww 11 points12 points  (8 children)

You are on point with what you are saying. Lifting is going good but man, being social. I can rationalize it however I want but I'm nowhere near the person you want me (us) to be. You said it beter then I could.

Edit: punctuations

[–]pinkuswilly 17 points18 points  (5 children)

A frat would cure your social problem. Instant social proof - as long as you’re still lifting you could start fucking instantly.

[–]MrRaspberryJamz 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Make sure it's a good one though and not one full of manginas. They aren't what they used to be by any means.

[–]FractalNerve 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What is a frat? I'm from Germany, near Frankfurt.. How do I find one? You also described me :(

[–]EyeOfTerror 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Studentenverbindung or Burschenschaft (a more traditional version) in German. Look up which ones are active at your university.

I agree that they’re a great way to socialize if you had to move to another town to study.

[–]grimmjoww 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Studenten vereniging is what it's called in dutch.

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    [–]grimmjoww 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Run of the mill social. Nothing exciting, average joe. I certainly dont get game when drunk also.

    [–]boboliboliobli 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Your comment just made me realize that as a 28 year old male, I shouldn't be visiting Reddit just for shits and giggles.

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      [–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (15 children)

      You should also pick a college that not only suits what you want to study, but your ideal social environment.

      My school is lik 70% women and a lot of the men are gay. It's hard to relate to anyone here. I'm pretty much a loner, but even still I get laid fairly frequently. Just wish I had a group of bros to hang with.

      But on the other hand it works out cause I can just spend the majority of my time focused on my studies instead of goofing off with friends and chasing kicks.

      [–]Nihev 33 points34 points  (2 children)

      What the hell is this place? Most guys are gay?

      [–]chaseemall 28 points29 points  (9 children)

      You're at a college with 70% women... You realize how advantageous that is? How much a well dressed, reasonably fit man would stand out at a place like that?

      [–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (3 children)

      Yeah, but the thing is, they're all batshit crazy 3rd wave feminists. I'd honestly rather not bother. I've banged like 5 chicks from my school and one of them acted like I "sexually assaulted" her when she literally got up out of bed and ran over to her little condom stash to get me a rubber.

      I'm not taking the risk. I live in a major city and there's plenty of hot women I don't go to school with.

      [–]dtoor14 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Tbh sounds like loyola university at chicago or NYU. Lmk if i hit it right on the money tho

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Not NYU, but close lol. Very, very close. I will leave it at that.

      [–]dtoor14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Haha i already know then bro 😂 and honestly fuckkk that shitttt

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        [–]chaseemall 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Chad is contextual. You have to be in the top 20% of whatever environment you're in. If, in your environment, you are one of the best men women have access to, you'll get pussy.

        Pretty sure the Pareto Principle (80/20 rule) is covered in the sidebar. Review it if you haven't read it in a while.

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          [–]chaseemall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          You are one of those r/incels faggots aren't you?

          I've been where you are, and I've thought about this some. I'll tell you what my thoughts and subsequent conclusions were:

          "What it takes is developing some basic social skills, a decent body, and dressing well. It takes making a man of myself, and developing a basic social life, something every single one of my ancestors have done. If all my fathers have done it, no matter what the circumstances were, then why can't I?

          "And if I don't have what it takes to make it...if I really don't have a chance to make it, then I should kill myself, because I'm basically saying the world needs no more "me"s. I'm basically saying that I don't deserve to exist, because my most essential portion, my genetics, do not deserve to be passed on."

          You are left with the choice, "Do I deserve to exist, or not?"

          I decided that I damn well do deserve to exist. So I didn't kill myself, and I got better--with women, and with life. Before you make that existential choice for yourself, read the sidebar, consider whether you can do what it says, and try.

          [–]yxngdrilla19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          My college is 80% women. Before I was MGTOW and I thought this would be a massive disadvantage. But all the guys are definitely betas and I'm literally the most alpha guy without even trying. I stick out like a sore thumb in the good way. Life has never been so easy. Big fish small pond type of thing.

          [–]smurfblue 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Man gay dudes arent bad. Coming from a straight guy, there’s no problem having a crew of mostly gay men. Unless they are crazy French gays ( avoid them at any cost) then they’re not gonna give you cancer

          [–]ButterNutBuster 20 points21 points  (2 children)

          Yeah you can go to the gym, go out on weekends, practice game, meet girls but pickup at parties doesn’t work in college anymore. I am a college student I do all of the above and I know a lot of people who do the same and there success rate is rather low.

          The college campus anti-rape mindset has most parties just hot girls dancing in the middle and telling any guys that come near them to fuck off. And the less desirable girls going home with anyone that will talk to them. Even if you have good game and can close with a woman her friends will probably tell you she needs to come back with them and to text/message them tomorrow. Most parties are full of betas putting up with this bs unless you go to a frat or learn to day game.

          If you want real success join a responsible and legitimate fraternity. Mine throws great parties but has never gotten into trouble, has the highest average gpa, and has won multiple awards.

          [–]askmrcia 18 points19 points  (0 children)

          The college campus anti-rape mindset has most parties just hot girls dancing in the middle and telling any guys that come near them to fuck off.

          I honestly don't have any idea why this isn't upvoted higher. This is fuckin true times 100.

          I live on a college campus now. A big ten university. I go out a lot and what you described is true.

          Any club or bar I go to, its usually just a group of girls standing/dancing by themselves in a circle closing everyone else off. Or they are on their phones together. I approach and so have many others, it don't work. They just shoot you off. I'm not saying its impossible, but its no where close to being as easy as everyone thinks. First off myself, I played college football, I've been with guys that were the stereotypical chad looking guy, those guys cold approach as well and don't get anywhere. Getting a number isn't the hard part, its getting them to leave the bar/club with you and close for the night that's hard. Or seeing them the next day.

          Even if you have good game and can close with a woman her friends will probably tell you she needs to come back with them and to text/message them tomorro

          Yup happened to me a lot. The best you can do is get their numbers and text them the next day and they most likely won't even remember you or text back. Now this changes if the girl is like a 5 or something.

          Your comment is 100% spot on. The only time I was ever successful at night gaming was if I knew them through a mutual interest/friend. But cold approaching when we never met before? Nah.

          To your other point about parties. You're right again. A lot of parties that I went too, were mostly just people on their phones. Girls dancing with girls only, guys talking to their bros. Party life gets overrated quick, because its not like how it is in the movies. And to be honest, this isn't just in college. It happens in the real world too. Go to any bar on a Saturday night and look how many girls are just dancing with themselves or the guys they came there with. Then look at how many guys/girls are on their phones and just standing in the corner somewhere.

          Everyone thinks campus parties are like project x. Maybe they used to be like that. IMO day game is MUCH better.

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          [–]coolman1001 96 points97 points  (20 children)

          Yeah I agree.

          So much of red pill is about abundance mentality, not placing a high value on women and focusing on self improvement.

          With how expensive education is why the fuck would you waste it chasing pussy instead of advancing your career? Try do both sure, but seems pretty short sighted to make that your goal.

          [–]becoolstaynschool[S] 20 points21 points  (19 children)

          Right--because the guys who finish classes and then jack off to pictures of Jennifer Lawrence on a Friday night instead of 'chasing pussy' are certainly advancing their respective careers in their respective field.

          Look, if you don't want to get laid when you're in an environment where the vast majority of girls are hot as fuck and consistently DTF, that's on you--but don't come here trying to hamster validate the fact that you're 'focusing on your career' instead of getting laid because it's total bullshit.

          [–][deleted] 107 points108 points  (4 children)

          I think there's a healthy middle ground. It's not 100% of either mentality. Spinning plates and taking 16 credit hours takes some fucking work.

          You're right about the women but from an investment standpoint, your career comes first in college.

          [–]Andrew54321 55 points56 points  (1 child)

          My dude, purpose over pussy. Not purpose OR pussy.

          [–]brinkleybuzz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Purpose and pussy aren't mutually exclusive. If you know what you're doing, a guy can actually find a woman who can help him in his mission.

          You can get laid and get good grades on college. I graduated with honors in a difficult major. Once I tightened up my game, I had girls who regularly kept my tummy full and balls empty in between study sessions. I focused on serial relationships. Where guys F up is trying to spin 3, 4 5 plates at a time while taking a full course load.

          [–]Ignotumpignotius 38 points39 points  (0 children)

          You're the one shaming. These commenters noted that the PC environment and potential outcomes of college are bit too large to ignore, simply to focus on your status driven outlook of sexual gratification as an opportunity. These are both acceptable agency demonstrating and frame building perspectives which are often espoused here on trp. Instead of creating an argument you doubled down on the instant gratification of dangerous sex.

          You could have mentioned that focusing on your career simply means you've married tradition and the state instead of a woman. You could have brought up that it isn't hard to have safe sex and avoid unwanted children.

          Both of these posters have holes in their arguments, and holes which lend themselves to your argument which is don't be too afraid of women & society to learn how to game them as this skill is useful in many other areas of your life.

          No, instead you shamed. You made some feminist argument that if they aren't out partying and hanging with the cool kids, they must be at home masturbating. You chose debauchery over an argument. You chose feels over reals. You're a moron. Worse, you're emotional.

          [–]SeeJaysBox 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          So going to college, which is for going into careers, and actually saying you're doing that isn't a good excuse? That is the bullshit. Not everyone wants to just going around having sex all the time with whoever.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 10 points11 points  (4 children)

          You haven't heard the news? This sub is getting cannibalized with MGTOW / black pill / incel faggots that don't actually believe learning to get laid is possible, and now TRP is all about rationalizing why women are too hard and take up too much effort. Effort that instead could go towards "developing your purpose" but really, we know these guys are just going to instead jerk off and play video games.

          This is why I like PU. PUA is full of fucktards and monetizers and BS artists. But the fundamental conceit of PU is that you have to get out there and approach, and if you do, you will get laid because you will learn the skill. This is true. I got into PU early when the field of knowledge was pretty poor, and guys like David Deangelo and Mystery were all the rage. And guess what, I got laid, a lot. Because I believed in it, and I believed I could actually go out 3-4 times a week and eventually I'd develop a personality that could get same night lays. And I did.

          This new generation of TRPers are the most whiny, low effort bitchmade kids I have ever seen. It's like they are all Indian/Asian race troll whiners, except most of them are upper middle class white kids. "Purpose over pussy bro" - sure, but that's just your rationalization to not do something you find challenging and high effort, aka work on game and approach women. This is the whole problem - they don't want to try. They only want to do it if it's a guaranteed result.

          The false dichotomies in this thread are astounding. I feel like none of these guys even know party guys / frat guys in college - there is so much of this "Every guy who's getting laid is actually a moron and probably a dumb jock alcoholic, and I will be so far ahead of them because I study harder" in this thread. Really if you actually get to know the cool guys who are getting laid, sure some of them are fuckups, but most are holding down a decent GPA, doing good activities, and will be completely fine if not better than the nerds when it comes to their careers.

          W/e more college pussy for the guys who deserve it then.

          [–]originaltransvaginal 8 points9 points  (1 child)

          Idk where you got the idea that this post is about "learning to get laid. He basically just shamed us. It's a strawman he set up and then let you cut it down. Did someone recently make a post about not wanting to spend their time getting laid in college? He certainly didn't offer anything besides the basics on how you could go about doing this. Just that you must be wasting your time if your in a sex capitol(college) and not chasing poon. People are turning down legally dangerous socially stigmatizing sex for a pretty well accepted drug (MJ) and playing video games!?!!!!?

          "This new generation of TRPers" "most of them are upper middle class white kids" (This can't be defended so I won't ask you to, but it helps define your character.)

          The irony is that you, a next generation EC, goes around spreading this nonsense about how validating pussy is. "but that's just your rationalization to not do something you find challenging and high effort." One of the main ways you judge if something is a red pill or not, is if you can say it without being shamed by conventional wisdom. So you're hearing a bunch of men make arguments about how dangerous it might be to hook-up casually, or that even though they've started taking care of themselves, they don't find 20something women up to snuff. And so your response is to shut it down! It's these new red pillers and their negative attitude towards women. They're just spoiled kids who think women owe them sex.

          Look, I get it, you just follow the cues, this guy came in here, acting all confident and popular. He called out dudes who don't get laid, though he certainly couldn't prove that's any of us. Ya know, the guys on a forum for advancing men's sexual strategies. He drew a line and said cool dudes over here, losers over there. And your subconscious knew which side it wanted to fall on. So no worries that he offered nothing other than criticism and belittlement. He took what the winners are doing, assumed we're on the other side, and you're agreeing with him.

          I'd definitely look into what this place is turning into because the cues I'm seeing remind me of something I was running away from.

          [–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Good insight. It ain't that hard to smash college chicks when you are in college. And these guys don't understand that the ability to be attractive to women will be a fundamental skill for them to get and advance in a good job. Good luck getting to that first job if you can't sweet talk the gal in HR in the screening interview.

          [–]Ichewfivegum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Made a post about how shit this threads becoming and within ten minutes it was taken down.

          [–]Hubbards 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Honestly try doing well in medicine and actually having a social life.

          [–]Ichewfivegum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I know somebody doing that actually

          [–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 18 points19 points  (1 child)

          You can fuck a lot in college and not impregnate girls. Just like you can join a frat and not be an alcoholic, or play sports and also have a good GPA. These kind of false dichotomies (dumbjock versus successfulnerd) are not the answer; they are really just rationalizations that people cling to in order to feel superior. IE dude who didn't get laid in college: "Well, I didn't fuck any of these super hot slutty girls in their prime, but I got a good degree and now I make decent money, and surely all those cool frat guys are now working min wage, hhahaha I win in the end!"

          I mean, sure, some of them might be, but many of them are in top law / business schools too, many of them are going to making 6+ figures. Just like many of the CC riding sluts will find a perfectly high status husband and have great lives and never face consequences for being alcoholic party sluts in their young 20s.

          We shouldn't cherrypick examples and generalize them; Guys in college should use college to develop great social skills, great learning skills, great market skills, and game / women skills. Exposure to a lot of women and learning how to manage attraction, juggle plates, project high SMV, do social game, etc is really fucking valuable. Whatever your larger mission in college is, there's no reason to not develop these skills - IMO if you aren't graduating college with at least a 30 bitch notch count, then you're behind and you missed an opportunity to learn a lot about how women work.

          [–]J-baller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Most of the top achievers don't spend their time chasing pussy. If anything they commit to a LTR then direct most of their attention to reaching their goals. Scattered focus leads to mediocre achievements. The guys who are always chasing after skirts, try out for different sports teams and simultaneously attempt scoring good grades all at the same time end up accomplishing very little of significance

          [–]pisspoordecisions 25 points26 points  (0 children)

          Stop with the horror story. It’s called condoms, pulling out, and plan B. You can be career oriented while still getting laid.

          [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 17 points18 points  (1 child)

          Alpha mask? The fuck?

          I know of other guys who used college as a springboard to a better life.

          I know a sea of man-boys that have five digit debt and no future either. What you do to make yourself sexually appealing to women is pretty much the same thing you do to make yourself a better male for everything. Strength. Mission. Power. Status. If you have these things, getting sex in college takes almost no effort. It's also what will propel your future.

          Stop separating sexual success from life success. They punch a lot of the same tickets.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          How is /u/J-baller is getting upvotes?

          Noobs: go read the sidebar

          [–]askmeanything2 31 points32 points  (9 children)

          typical MGTOW scare tactic: having sex can result in pregnancy

          this is a sexual strategy forum, take how to be a better beta somewhere else

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            [–]askmeanything2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            I agree. Understand that college girls don't want pregnancy since the party stops and shit gets real, so they don't mind Plan B, and they are often on the pill or depo

            [–]frrunkis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            How could you possibly have so many pregnancy scares if you wear condoms? Assuming you wear the condom correctly so no cum leaks out, assuming you don't play 'just the tip' before putting the condom on, assuming the condom doesn't break, and assuming you get rid of the condom/jizz so she can't somehow impregnate herself with it then their is literally 0 chance of her getting pregnant since none of your jizz will touch her.

            Wear a condom, and use it properly. It's not hard.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

            Plan b doesn't work for overweight girls, even if slightly overweight. Just putting that out there

            [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            Easy solution: don't fuck fatties

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Interesting, what about the pills effectiveness?

            [–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            omfg you win broo this comment was fucking beautiful thanks for the laugh

            [–]becoolstaynschool[S] 45 points46 points  (21 children)

            Sorry you had such a shitty experience in college and made friends with dumbasses that don't understand how to use condoms.

            Where in my post did I ever say you need to buy girls drinks to get validation? Sounds like you're extrapolating based upon your own skewed idea of a Beta male's mindset on how to be successful with women.

            If you actually study during the week and stay on top of things instead of pissing away your time doing stupid shit, that leaves open the entire weekend to go out. Who would've though that actually focusing creates time for other shit when you're not fucking around? Crazy, I know.

            Women will always be there. Freshly-legal college girls, who are looking to have as much fun and casual sex as humanly possible, on the other hand, wont be.

            Keep that hamster-projection spinning bro.

            [–]AdamNJH 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            Perfect response, too much beta shit is ending up on this sub.

            [–]cherryCanSuckMyDick -1 points0 points  (19 children)

            Sorry you had such a shitty experience in college and made friends with dumbasses that don't understand how to use condoms.

            Ya sure, because a condom is going to protect me from a rape or harassment allegation. Get this through your head: If I fuck a woman, especially on a college campus, she can use the legal system where I live to do fucking anything she feels like doing to me. Shoving my dick down a wet hole isnt worth spending years of my life in prison, or trying to make ends meet while paying child support for the next two decades

            I swear this is the dumbest post Ive seen in a while

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              [–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Yeah, but fear is there for a reason, to make me stop and think before doing something that would cause me pain. Maybe Im overestimating the risks, but Im terrified of losing my freedom

              [–]PinkySlayer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              You are over estimating the risk. You are WISE to be mindful of the risks and to take every precaution to negate them, but it would be foolish and would lessen the quality of your life for you to let fear prevent you from having a fulfilling sex and social life. Walk the middle ground.

              [–]pisspoordecisions 7 points8 points  (14 children)

              You know, you could always learn to figure out how to not get charged for those things. It helps when you’re not a jackass. You sound like you’re making excuses for not getting laid.

              [–]AlexDr0ps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Wtf is TRPs obsessive fear over rape allegations by women?

              [–]zealanderx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              WHAT?!!!

              Is this real??? Holy cow man... they are called "RUBBERS"!

              You know what college is about? It's about learning how to dominate everything and handle a schedule that is packed 16 hours per day. It's learning how to man up after partying hard on a tuesday, getting 4.5 hours of sleep... then getting up, making breakfast, pound a vitamin, drink water, go take that test you've been studying 3 weeks for... sit next to the girl you fucked 3 weeks ago and ACE THAT MF TEST.

              College should without a single doublt be the greatest time of your life. It is was the best time of my life. I had a ton of fun in HS. I am still improving myself and getting better at life, I score better women... but this OP is right... there is absolutely no place like the college environment. Good lord, take me back...

              [–]i4mn30 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              What I'm more shocked about is who in the hell gave you 70 net upvotes.

              Lot of safe playing beta bucks here that still aren't red pilled.

              [–]rigbed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Agreed. If only Hookers existed so guys could justify working their assets off. Typo but I’m keeping it.

              [–]DARPA-NATOR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              "sex enthusiast" and "impregnate", look at Professor 14 year old over here. You've learned nothing.

              [–]Anon241469 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              So only fuck girls with IUD implants.

              [–]rijeka1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Holy fucking shit. You just said the thing I always, I mean always looked validation from. Tons of thanks brother!

              Also would you advice me how should I stay on path, books to help me maintain this focused mindset? Thank you!

              I do lift daily 🙏🏽

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                  [–]aesu 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  It may be an impressive display of skill in that area, but not everyone has an interest in that area.

                  [–]bossplayaintraining 17 points18 points  (15 children)

                  Yeah but those opportunities only go to the top 5%.

                  [–]1WeedDaddy 14 points15 points  (10 children)

                  Indeed. Unless they get accepted into a top frat, invited to the parties with hot co-eds or happen to play a popular team sport, there is almost nothing to try. Maybe waste a lot of time attending cockfest parties hoping for a chance encounter. At least Tinder doesn't take much time and gives a good estimation of your SMV, especially at college which is like a real-life Tinder.

                  [–]chaseemall 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                  Awesome. Great list of things to shoot for. Other places with women include political clubs, the campus newspaper, literary journals, the million other clubs, cultural clubs for ethnic chicks, the various foreign language organizations, club sports (which will make you alpha male friends, who will know women) and professional organizations, etc

                  It's better to stay home on tinder

                  What? No it's not! You were so fucking close. You knew some of the things to do. Good goddamn get your head out of your ass. I've met girls in classes on neurobiology, proof based math courses, and fucking research labs. Quit being a faggot.

                  Get cracking!

                  [–]All-DayErrDay 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                  And then you could be like me and get virtually zero matches on tinder. What do I do at that point, yeah I might still be a small jacked looking guy, but I get no matches from anything worth taking a second glance at.

                  [–]rigbed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I’m 6’2” and get no matches from anything worth looking at. You know how i got great matches? I had a bdsm stock photo as the profile pic. I got reported. I got girls claiming they swiped “accidentally” but I got great matches.

                  [–]1WeedDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  be like me and get virtually zero matches on tinder

                  That's supply and demand in action. Many men fall below the cut-off line.

                  I guess you could try doing it the hard old-fashioned way: lurking (or "lording") at parties waiting for an easy woman. Based on the reports here, the Millennials should be so weak-sauce, that they won't even kick you out if you crash their party. In the days past, an unwanted person could get seriously beaten.

                  [–]electricspresident 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  This! OP should talk about this a lot more. I tried to get friendly with high value people and if u meet me you'll definitely find yourself having a good conversation but I'm not exciting hence no invites to all the parties. The red pill must solve this problem

                  [–]1WeedDaddy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  The red pill must solve this problem

                  That's what programmers call a "hard problem", mainly because there are no known general solutions.

                  One thing off my mind... if you want to roll with dem fratsters, need to have the wheels for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieV1HpAfi1k&t=4m37s

                  [–]electricspresident 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Thanks for the info n link. But I did a Google search on what u said and I can confirm you're right. There's so much context in my situation that it's hard to get a solution. Personally for me I live in a cliquey college town with no frats so everybody is just hanging out via their contacts, living situations etc and its definitely mostly the good looking guys that have the good social circles. They are no different in personality, nor talented or anything like that. Anyway I have decided to work on it later, will focus on myself for a while.

                  It does beg the question though that after getting jacked from all the lifting that TRP advices the hardest part comes ie mostly cold approaching and getting girls.

                  [–]Bigjohnthug 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Nah. I get laid a lot at/from uni. I have the secret: look good, dress well and be nice to people. You end up getting invited to stuff. Even when I don't (or when I don't feel like it) a little flirting goes a long way. Just crack jokes in your classes. Ez.

                  I've never gotten into Tinder but all of my friends that have get lower quality by far. My friends that pull in real life get real hotties, mostly sane. The Tinder guys seem to get sevens or crazies. Sometimes both, like the girl who hid in my other friends back seat and went home with us instead. She popped up mid journey and said "we're not having a threesome!" and then threatened to sue us for sexual assault if we didn't drive her home when we finally got it through to her there is no way we were spit roasting her.

                  Fucking Tinder man. Don't even use it but that crazy shit gets up in my life. Fuck any app that takes a basic human want and makes it into a cheap and trashy commodity.

                  [–]chaseemall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Which means you should do what faggot?

                  [–]winner_lahmacun 27 points28 points  (6 children)

                  I like some of the red pill theories, but defining life around banging some pussies just seems so shallow to me. If you think this is what life is all about, I will pass. Nothing in the world that has an ending point can satisfy me. It can quench my thirst at best. Striving hard for satisfaction in a night to night basis seems just so miserable to me.

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                    [–]TrogRP 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Focus on self, improve self, girls will follow.

                    My brother, who is a few years older than me and is a perfect example of this mentallity. Guy grew up a friendless, socially awkward nobody although this didn't bother him in the slightest. Has always been an introverted alpha. He spent his entire undergrad on alpha friendships, getting huge at the gym, and graduating magna cum laude but still hadnt even kissed a single woman. Then comes this past year in grad school, suddenly he's got confidence and is spinning plates like a pro with chicks begging for him to fuck them instead of go to the gym.

                    Build yourself up to be confident and attractive and chicks will beg for you.

                    [–]Throwawaysteve123456 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                    It's weird because it's a Mecca for women, yet you have to be a bit more cautious. Looking at a girl wrong on campus is now rape if you're unattractive.

                    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 27 points28 points  (1 child)

                    Most college girls group up and go out to clubs and frats looking for fun and alcohol (and validation).

                    They are looking to hook up with older and more mature guys and the captain of the football team. Even the linemen don't get pussy these days and all but the top 20% get nothing except the risk of sexual harassment / rape charge in the 1 in a 1000 times they meet with some success in the dating market.

                    Most college guys sit at home and sleep.

                    After thousands of brutal rejections how do we expect most men to react? Men have to be incentivized to get out of bed and make an effort. What incentives are the party girls offering 80% of the 18 - 22 year old men?

                    Sorry but the promise of getting one of these party girls after she has scarfed down 300 Alpha cocks used to be enough incentive. Then men figured out that most of these women end up divorce-raping you.

                    So again, what is the incentive? Are men just supposed to "man up" and wait their turn to be divorce-raped?

                    Or.....is it just possible that men see the rigged game and they are opting to not play.

                    We will have passed the Event Horizon of this Black Hole created by 3rd Wave Feminism when the phrase changes from:

                    Bros before Hoes

                    to

                    Bots Before Thots.

                    All that said, OP is correct. You don't need to work hard to get pussy. All you have to do is try- and not even very hard.

                    But...the problem is that men no longer even want to try. I don't accept that is the fault of the men. I don't blame men. I blame the system which sexually disenfranchises and disincentivizes young men when they are the most productive and horny of their lives. We do it solely because women want the ability to "find themselves" before "settling down" with a Beta into a female dominated marriage.

                    ALL women are emotionally and strongly invested in letting girls "find themselves" before they are "forced to settle down." ALL women are in on this game and ALL get hysterically mad when you reframe their female paradise as riding the cock carousal until they decide to "settle" for a beta into a largely sexless marriage.

                    ALL women don't give the tiniest speck of shit for the torture this causes young men, or for the damage this causes society. They literally LAUGH about male suicides and make fun of desperate blue balled men who can't get laid.

                    [–]Crimson_Medicinal 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                    Completely agree. We all struggled with growing up in this world (I was only 18 when tinder broke out into the mainstream) and at this point I'm so jaded I'd rather stay in and listen to Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson than go out and spend money and energy on nothing.

                    I want to be an alpha chad and I'm growing by the day but something inside me still angers when I'm 6'2, 225 lbs of muscle, intelligent, kind and conventionally attractive and it still feels like a losing battle. Fuck.

                    [–]banjew 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                    You should follow the 90/10 college rule:

                    Study 90% of the time, fuck around 10%.

                    Don't waste your college years. You can fuck a hot 21 y/o a couple times in college and drop out, or you can fuck 21 y/o for 40+ years by being a established doctor or lawyer. What do you want?

                    Focus on your mission. Your mission is not to fuck girls.

                    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                    Focusing on this in college has consequences. I think people in stem really can't do this.

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                      [–]Wireframe888 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      STEM major and just completed grad school. The struggle is certainly real.

                      [–]clme 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                      Maybe many of them are MGTOW without even being aware of the acronym.

                      [–]batdh84 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      What is the point of a guy trying if he lives in a 80/20 or 90/10 world? For some guys they take their studies seriously, especially if they are in a STEM field, and also has to work in order to pay for tuition

                      [–]Crimson_Medicinal 26 points27 points  (4 children)

                      To be honest as an introvert the only reason I would go out to clubs and drink is to get laid. I'd rather hang out with my friends and play some games and relax otherwise. I'm fit and I take care of myself but nightlife in general isn't for me.

                      As for getting into the top 20% of men, yeah you're right that's pretty easy. Just lift and take care of your appearance and stimulate your mind.

                      [–]asotranq 21 points22 points  (2 children)

                      It's so weird, i used to quite enjoy going out to nightclubs and shit just because it was kind of good fun, but since I all but quit drinking and started really only giving a shit about my own personal development academically and in terms of fitness, I find it kind of weird to see all these people my age unironically willfully putting this (literal) poison into their bodies 1-2 (maybe more) times a week, spending all their wages/student finance on it, eating some disgustingly greasy trash only to vomit it up 2-10 hours later, and spending the next day in a completely impaired state due to these decisions. I think a lot of it really comes from the mentality of not really being able to enjoy yourself or feel confident without a shitload of vodka inside of you, but that's just fucking sad from my point of view.

                      [–]Crimson_Medicinal 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                      I agree. I try not to judge others and what they choose to do with their free time, but I would hate myself if I wasted my time and money like that.

                      Fun to me is smoking a bowl with my best buddies and enjoying each others company and conversation.

                      Something about watching people have shallow conversations at loud bars and clubs just don't do it for me. I like substance, a lot of people seem like they're only hobbies are drowning their misery instead of conquering the bullshit in their lives.

                      [–]asotranq 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      I agree with what you're saying here. It feels like people try to joke about 'drowning their miseries' with drinking at a bar all night, but it seems like it eventually becomes somewhat true because spending that much time and money on something with literally nothing to show for it besides objectively negative things like worse skin and worse body composition has to be at least a little bit soul crushing. Really I don't care though, most of these people can do this and moderate themselves and improve their lives with it and stuff, so that's fine, but where I'm from it seems like there's a weird glorification of it, and you're kind of a piece of shit for noticing that.

                      [–]OracleofFl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      Instead of going to clubs (nightclubs), JOIN clubs! Extend your thinking and there are a zillion ways of meeting new women at uni.

                      [–]mrboomx 9 points10 points  (3 children)

                      Good post. I am in my 4th year of university. Only started to lift and take advantage of the resources I have this year. I expected my school gym to be packed all the time (there is a dedicated "lifting zone"), but usually its just me and 5/6 other people (half usually girls too) in this giant room with 10+ power racks, all this high end equipment, free personal trainers if wanted ect. Note that this is a top 5 Canadian school of about 15k students. I was shocked at how little people use these facilities they are paying for with tuition.

                      It really is true, most guys do not lift or put much effort in. Its to the point where I have only been lifting seriously for 3 months and am usually the biggest guy in any classroom I am in.

                      Don't make my mistake and wait this long. I am trying to make up for lost time at this point.

                      [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      The impact is not just on college students but on people who are thinking about going to college. Enrollments continue to drop and schools are increasingly supermajority female getting useless Gender Studies and Communication degrees.

                      Boys are actively boycotting both women and colleges. Apparently this is not a problem. Getting more of those 70% majority girls into more STEM is the problem.

                      [–]Bostenboy 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                      Don't worry dude, the young women will keep coming up until old age as you make your fortune... so..study on!

                      [–]CAinCa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      Lift? Hell yes.

                      But here’s another one- clean!

                      So many guys get to college and are so used to Mommy picking up after them that they take themselves right out of the game by having a filthy living space. Change your sheets regularly. Take the time to make your bed (this means you start your day by immediately accomplishing a task). Don’t leave food and other refuse around.

                      Make it a place that she wants to come back to over and over.

                      Communicate that you are someone in complete control of yourself and your environment.

                      [–]TyrannosaurusKekz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Goddamnit. You’re fucking right.

                      I’m a senior and I stopped rowing this year to focus on class, but have done worse. My brother died two years ago and it still fucks me up, but I’ve allowed it to push me away from people and thus a fulfilling life.

                      Time to go to the gym, time to build a better life.

                      [–]JcHgvr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      I constantly get asked why I am still single at 27 while most guys my age are at least thinking about it. My go to answer is :

                      Because I'm not stupid

                      [–]Boobsbuttsandbats 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                      This is a feminist argument. At the very least its feminine.

                      There are 330 million of us in the US alone. We are not all going to live the same way. This is Apex Fallacy. Viewing the way the top men at university conduct themselves, and then shaming the remainder because they aren't copying.

                      As if "going with the flow" (casual sex, building confidence through sex, gaining validation from conquest) were going to produce a better man. He's simply suggesting that you keep women happy.

                      Go out, project confidence and value by interacting with and then using women. Its the same message from feminism. Its a route through which CORPORATIONS benefit from you developing interpersonal skills and unfounded confidence. What good is confidence. If you live in the wilderness, then yea it'll help you push past your limits to keep yourself alive. But if you're a city slicker, then it simply means you harbor subconscious aggressive tendencies towards the other city slickers. You believe that when push comes to shove, your mind and/body will outlast theirs. Now unless you're a fool and are hoping for physical confrontation, that only benefits your boss and management. It will make you a productive employee and on top of that, one who is invested in the company & system because you think you deserve the rewards it can bestow.

                      He makes a value judgement about how men spend their time. Calls individuals who aren't following his ideal a "waste". I know who else talks like that. Feminists and corporations.

                      Now obviously the point of all this is that he was trying to build up the losers who come here. "Look what you're missing out on by being self defeating!" "Just lift, and practice game and it'll all be fine!" Its shallow, been said to death here, and precisely because of his tone leaves the losers upset. He's treating dissenting opinions as something to be shamed. Not actually arguing back with these ideas.

                      P.S. I'm not anti confidence. I simply keep mine hidden as that's personally how I like to live. I don't show my enemies my strengths. But I do acknowledge what I'm doing with confidence. I am using it against others. Its not just some aspect of my personality. It is a weapon. If you're more intelligent than everyone in the room then you know you will win. There is no purpose in flaunting that other than for social validation. Confidence will keep your mind healthy and sharp. It allows the proper hormones to be spread through your body. I see no benefit to bragging about it verbally.

                      [–]bragbragz 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                      Holy fuck im cringing so hard at these comments.

                      Rape allegations?!?!

                      Only focus on studies?!!

                      Honestly, if you consider your time valuable, you work focused once you work, and you have fun on your sparetime.

                      Going out once or twice a week is personally giving me a HUGE morale boost. You don’t have to drink everytime you go out either. If you study focused you will have plenty of time to socialize. The problem i see is a vast majority goes to school with no goals and just fling slacks. Go to school work out eat healthy. And enjoy life at weekends, because there is more to career than good grades. Network is just as, if not more inportant.

                      [–]majorketone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I agree. I'm a stem major and I still find time to go out and socialize and play a club sport. I think a lot of people might be using their major as an excuse to not even try. For hard majors there will be weekends you can't because you have work to do but if you stay on top of your shit you can make time to have fun.

                      [–]bossplayaintraining 10 points11 points  (5 children)

                      I’m in college right now.

                      I could argue that OTOH, the risk of sexual harassment/false rape accusations are so high now that trying actually puts you in a worse position than not doing so. I mean, what’s the point of trying if you’re just gonna get labelled a campus creep?

                      And many ppl have situations that prevent them from “trying” (having to work full-time just to pay for tuition, being poor, being in demanding majors, having to commute home to overprotective parents, etc.).

                      [–]becoolstaynschool[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

                      I'll ask you a question to answer your question:

                      What's the point in trying to cross the street if i'll just get hit by a bus?

                      [–]bossplayaintraining 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                      You gotta get somewhere, right?

                      But here’s the thing: if you get hit by a bus, you get injured/killed, everybody feels sorry for you & it’s “such a tragedy.”

                      You become the “campus creep,” your life becomes The Walking Dead: you’re still alive, but you are raped, killed, & mutilated inside, & you have to go through that every day for the rest of your life because blue pill society unfairly judges you, & their perception is reality in this world.

                      Basically, 1 death vs. at least 1,000 deaths.

                      [–]OracleofFl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                      I am so totally shocked that TRP posts about false rape accusations has given rise to such a large number of TRP readers who now have another reason not to lift and not to increase their smv. Taking the red pill manifests with sexual conquest successes but is a lot more than that. Quite frankly I am running out of patience with the TRP lurkers who don't even have a gym membership.

                      [–]VickVaseline 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      If there's one group of people in this country that have the most potential to get consistently laid, make shit tons of friends, and overall have a fucking blast, its college dudes. Despite that fact, the vast majority of college guys are complete pussies with no direction, game, or drive.

                      ...and which country might that be?

                      [–]Anon241469 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I wish I discovered TRP when I was in college. Would have changed my life.

                      [–]st4rkeks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Lol, yeah I have so much free time on hands while getting into engineering, I can totally go out every weekend it's not like I have shit to study for... Bro, you gotta realize it's not always black and white, at my university there only 25% females and if you want to get your enginneering bachelor degree in less than 5 years you gotta put in a shit ton of work.

                      [–]Jonlife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      College is a sham. Yes, if you're lucky enough to get someone else to pay for it then go get a degree. But don't put yourself into debt with a degree that has no real world value.

                      Most colleges today are toxic places for a young man... , anti masculine environments. In short, these campuses are not safe for males to flourish. The odds are set again you before you ever enrolled. Which is why you need to have a plan, or else you will fall victim to the feminist indoctrination that is happening as we speak at these universities.

                      How many of you walking around your campuses feel like it's all about the women attending, and what ever is good for them is good for you? You guys probably feel like you could be "rapists" yourselves by how much they're trying to rub this "yes means yes" bullshit into your faces.

                      Pick up a trade that doesn't involve working with women. Change to a Stem/engineering/science major, keep your head down, and graduate. If you're in debt I recommend joining the military. By the time you're done serving they will have helped you pay that debt off. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If you're already disciplined enough to not be in debt then joining the military is optional. But most guys will need a nice kick in the ass.

                      Again, college is stacked against men right now. You're predators in the eyes of these feminist administrations running these schools. Get the fuck out asap as they only care about blaming you for their woes ,

                      [–]fake7272 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Exactly. College is for partying, fucking girls, meeting dope guys and doing dope shit.

                      When u graduate get a job and kick ass. That's it. It's easy shit but people fuck it up.

                      [–]AbdXO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Man oh man! This guy right here is fucking right! College years are the only years in life where it is predominantly about fun.. from down there it is just shitty 9-5s, restrictions and responsibilities! I am in my 3rd year of college and I have been doing the best I can to seize the moment, I am almost depressed because soon these experiences will be just history.. Let me tell you guys, there's absolutely nothing as fucking horrible as missing out on your youth years.. *Go out there and do dumb shit! *Talk to random hot girls you see around campus *Have a fuckbuddy *Spin plates and fucking live each day as your last, because it is...

                      [–]PurpleDrank88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Can confirm. Spent like half of college not trying. When I turned it around and started putting in effort I had two of the best years of my life. Never waste a single minute of college. I wish I could go back and do those two years over where I didn't try

                      [–]Youweresoyoung 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      Pointed out. It gets only harder as time is going on, no excuses.

                      [–]AdamNJH 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                      Great post. Most guys in my university don't lift and you can smell their insecurities. Not taking advantage of the demographic/logistics in university is criminal.

                      [–]IWannaBeANiceGuy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      If you have thousands of dollars to waste on getting laid and making friends than college is great...

                      op I don't know about you man.

                      [–]OfficerWade 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                      Right now I’m a guy working full time, working out at the gym 3-4 days week for the last 3 months and I have seen my gains and confidence boost but my game is where I fall apart. I just can’t get out anything to say, I’m stuck playing it cool. I haven’t been approaching women, I’ve been ducking most girls at work to play it safe, and I’ve been miserable. Any help ?

                      [–]becoolstaynschool[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      Stop being a bitch and realize that you're talking to other people IN REAL LIFE and should not be following a script like some fucking PUA-robot. AA is easy to get over when you realize how much of a bitch you're acting all over nothing.

                      Also, sidebar.

                      [–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Steer clear of trying to date chicks at work, man. However, if you don't show interest but still talk to them, you might find a surprise or two.

                      [–]Nomorethanicanchew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Read some books on fucking. Get one fucking playmate, don't get too nice with her. Get a second one. Start spinning.

                      [–]jewishsupremacist88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      most guys try and give up after the first semester. if you're not CHAD you're not getting any

                      [–]Moonboots606 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I hated when a friend of mine would bitch out on asking a girl from our dorm to hang out. It was such a sad thing to watch. They would look up to my buddy and I (the only two guys willing to simply talk to a woman) and ask "what is it about you that girls like?" My answer was to just have an iota of confidence, don't give a fuck and, to paraphrase OP, just fucking TRY. Excellent post loaded with blunt truth. Thank you.

                      [–]therhymerr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I think a lot of this just really depends on your financial situation. If you are here obviously you are willing to go out and try new things. My personal experience in college was trying to be the first in my family getting a degree and dealing with my parents divorce and working 20 hours a week while being in organizations and still trying to party my ass off whenever I could. Lifting didn’t fit into that unfortunately but as soon as I graduated I lost 50 lbs and have gotten pretty fit. I didn’t have much success with girls who were always interested in frat boys with money and don’t think college should be the prime of any of our lives. Regardless you can still have a dam good time with friends and making memories, not just pursuing girls (didn’t meet many who were actually women at that age) and move on with your life from there... just my 2 cents for what it’s worth

                      [–]Chamblissw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Fuck you nigga, I got a girlfriend and madden to play. Fuck the school work too.

                      [–]fightermafia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      This forum is too obsessed with gym.

                      [–]Librehombre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      If you study hard sciences, math and languages the liberals are not feeding you their version of history and "oppression".

                      It used to be, in my era, those subjects were all male students, except languages.

                      [–]peanutpepper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      I am very much experiencing what you've described. What I find to be a huge struggle is the loneliness of not having high SMV yet, almost no friends, and the friends that I do have are nowhere near TRP mindset. It sort of leaves you to go through it all on your own.

                      I've improved a lot through introspection and since learning of TRP not too long back, but I have a long way to go and it's already been two years since I started university. Yes I have gotten comfortable in this shit hole. Yes there are so fucking many hot girls. Yes it's a fucking waste. I can accept that, and I understand I need to improve, and I'm willing to do what it takes. Hate to be whiny but FUCK, it is hard going solo.

                      Answer me this one thing guys, as long as I'm not somewhat high SMV, do I just take girls out of the picture and work on myself, day in, day out? Or do I still try game as low SMV although that feels out of place as fuck? I will know whether to keep or eliminate women from my focus for the time being. I think I already know my answer, but help a brother.

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                      [–]_xa0s 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                      Going to uni in the US next year. Any tips? Already started lifting.

                      [–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      My best advice would be to head to a school that is at least 55% female. When you back out the gay guys, the ratios play very well into your favor. Also, don't listen to their social justice warrior bullshit. Know when to toe that line if you need to, but don't live by it and be sure to let feminists know that it's bullshit. The best lay I had in college was with an uber feminist chick. I told her from the outset that her ideology was bullshit and she loved it - these chicks are so used to being around cucks that they'll get turned on by something different. I never dated this chick, but she was a very constant plate who would bitch about her series of lameass boyfriends after we got done banging. Stopped banging her when I started dating my now wife, though. Man, that chick was awesome.

                      [–]auto-xkcd37 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      lame ass-boyfriends


                      Bleep-bloop, I'm a bot. This comment was inspired by xkcd#37

                      [–]swordshab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      There’s also a shit ton fake rape allegations at least at my college. I’ll take my hand over that shit any day

                      [–]Trumeau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Alright so yes I spend my weekends playing autism simulators.

                      The question is how do I stop? Apart from backpacking I've never really been the social kind. I study like a mother fucker and am getting 90s currently and then take the weekend off to de-stress which typically just involves voxels.

                      I'm trying to grow a social circle but so many of my peer group is effectively closet losers who are coasting by and just memorizing material to regurgitate it and complain incessantly about program difficulty.

                      I've found like three dudes out of the ninety kids in my engineering class who aren't fucked.

                      [–]tolerantman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      I remember this story about a reddit guy who hit on 1000 girls on his college and still never got laid, anyone knows about this?

                      [–]DonkeyPunch19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Women are only attracted to the top one percent of genetically gifted men. For the other 99 percent there really is no point in trying.

                      despite the fact that they're surrounded by some of the horniest and hottest girls

                      Horny for the top one percent of men.

                      [–]VladBeatz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Honestly, I think I unlocked my real RP in college, I just started last month and I'm getting busy and being an "alpha" attracts. I'm just learning how to deal with people hating on me, like I don't really care but I'm looking for an appropiate reaction.

                      [–]Mescalean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Don't fall into the bs trap of "go to college" either.

                      I said fuck college. Still to this day when we're at the bars talking about what we do for work, my background in legal weed beats any "i went for architecture" with the women.

                      If you have a goal set in mind go, but dont go just to go. Half my friends did that shit and are doing bs desk jobs that suck their soul. I didn't and get to laugh at the cunts who said I wouldn't do shit without a degree while making good money and smoking fat with good trim on the side.

                      Dont fall into societies "fall in line worker bee" traps

                      [–]ManSoldWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Dude, this describes my old mindset to a T. I know you posted this ages ago, but this is incredibly fucking accurate. So many fucking guys I see in my residence hall and even in other places on campus have little to no drive or initiative, and it shows through how they talk about academics, life, ambitions, and how their body language is set.

                      After starting to embrace this Red Pill mindset, I really started having less and less patience for guys with no initiative. I worked out with my roommates in the early part of this semester. We stopped because we all caught flu at various points, and under my old self, I was waiting for them to tell me when they were ready to work out again. Over spring break though, when I decided to give this thing a try, I decided I had to start doing it without them. They're acting bitchy and cunty now that I'm not including them, but that's their issue.

                      Of the things you've listed above, I'd say I'm definitely lifting and not giving a fuck. But, I'm in the process of overcoming my social anxiety, so the talking to girls part is slowly improving. It's definitely better than what it was before. Gaming will happen soon; in all honesty, that hasn't been the main concern yet. I want to get some of the other things (physique, wardrobe, namely) in line first.

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                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      lifting is not needed? LOL. I dont lift for pussy bro

                      [–]Work_In_Progress92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      When I first went away to school in 2011 I wish I had found the manosphere because I fell into a dark pit. Had lots of friends but no game, no goals and no drive.

                      So to those who are here and in college, read and internalize.

                      [–]warburgio 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      I went back to University as a 28 year old. I'm a poor foreigner in the UK. In every subject group I study, there are at least two decent-looking girls that give me massive IOIs . Number of guys that seemed to have their shit together- maybe 3 overall ( out of around a hundred from all my groups). If it's easy for me to have a great track record, I can't imagine what the scores are of guys that don't have to work (thus have more time to spend on socialization, building power, dating, being outgoing etc.), lift and practice everything preached here.

                      [–]plsporo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Yep, when I moved to my own place starting college I was pulling left and right going out through the week. It's literally fucking easy when surrounded by college girls. Now that I've started an internship and started an accutane course I come home unmotivated and watch netflix for the rest of the night. Glad it's almost over.

                      [–]niggers_low_iq 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                      I realized this, I go to college and I have everything in the world right now yet I am not making the best use of my resources, its as if I have too many good things and services yet I do jack.

                      All I do nowadays is go to college, attend classes hit the gym then come back home and study/ listen to podcasts etc.. Im a freshman and still hang out with my highschool friends with whom ive formed bonds with over a period of 10 years, I dont think I can make any college friends..

                      [–]grimmjoww 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Same boat. We need to fucking open guys and girls rn. Be social with all of the people. Sitting besides ppl you don't know? Open. Girls come by? Open. "hey what class is this?","You guys skip on classes a lot?"," What are some good places to party?". We need to become the salesman too.

                      [–]niggers_low_iq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      well yeah thats required at this point, I dont wnat to make 100 new friends just a few good ones. being extremely social isnt really my thing

                      [–]OnlyCuriosity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      hit the nail on the head. this is pretty much the exact position im in. My two roommates would rather stay in, smoke weed, and watch the office for the sixth fucking time than go out on a friday night. i really need to find at least 1 or 2 like minded guys to go out with on a regular basis

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