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ScienceA Man's Guide to Conquering Acne (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Hencley

This is my attempt to make the most comprehensive guide to fighting acne specifically tailored for MEN. I fought acne for most of my life, finally getting it under control by going through all the tropes, appointments, figuring out what's bullshit and what's worth trying. It's important to make the distinction, men and women are VERY different. Therefore, the battles between acne are very different. The SCA subreddit has a ton of good info, but it's wading through a lot of things that may work for your little sister and not necessarily you. It's a much more talked about issue between females, despite acne being INSANELY easier to fight as a woman than a man.

A man's life breeds acne.

  • Testosterone, the literal essence of man, increases acne.

  • A man's diet, in a calorie surplus to gain/retain muscle, usually resorts to many foods being added to the diet. Higher dairy content, higher carb loading, and higher glycemic load all seem to aggravate and cause acne.

  • A man's workout, usually to increase muscle mass, can increase bacteria on the skin from sweating and increase hormones (testosterone.) This can cause and aggravate acne.

  • A man's life usually consists of more labor, stress (despite not being socially acceptable for a man to show this) and has less socially acceptable methods of treating skincare. Most skincare products are made for, advertised to, and bought by females.

  • To fight their own acne problems girls can; diet without losing muscle, tan to hide acne, wear makeup to hide marks, control their hormones with little to no side effects, have a billion products marketed to them, and change their life to fight acne while still maintaining feminine attraction. Put simply, if girls had to increase testosterone to fight acne, this would show them how a man approaches the fight. However, for some cruel reason our attraction is not only based in physical displays of testosterone, but in lack of it when it comes to our skin.

Now despite acne being much more aggressive and tougher to fight for a man, females still consider a clear face much more attractive. Society will consider you less attractive, happy, healthy, and even successful if you have acne scars on your face. I do not believe a man should ever resort to lowering his hormones or testosterone to fight acne, therefore none of the treatments listed will entertain this. A man must have testosterone more than he must not have acne.

I shouldn't have to list the benefits of having clear skin, but it can affect every aspect of your life. You wouldn't want to have a shitty haircut or wardrobe, so why carry a shitty complexion with you? It's not feminine to have great skin, and isn't just about getting laid either. Look at the studies, it will help your image at work, in the gym, and everywhere else you bring your face.

In order to recommend how to fight your acne I'm going to grade severity based on a scale of 1 to 5, with 5 being the most severe. A zero would be a man with no acne, despite anything he throws into and on his face and body. If this is you, congratulations because you have hit a genetic jackpot and a ton of stress is removed from your life because of this. Also, fuck you.

  1. Mild acne. No more than 2-3 small to medium lesions. Few blackheads, small natural pores. Little to no inflammation. Typically no body acne. Easily concealable, usually not a huge deal in attraction unless you are a celebrity, etc.

  2. Mild acne with moderate breakouts. Usually only an acne level 1, but suffers occasional breakouts consisting of 4-7 lesions. During a breakout, light to moderate inflammation, visible blackheads, and 1-2 painful zits (cysts.) Breakouts can usually create insecurities if timed with important events, but many people with this level go untreated as it's not "bad enough to treat."

  3. Moderate acne. Moderate amounts of lesions at a time on face. Usually no less than 5 except for "lucky" weeks. Can have large pores, very visible blackheads, moderate inflammation, usually several spots on back/shoulders. Tricky to conceal without good makeup experience. Can hamper attraction, usually starts taking toll on self confidence at this level. Most attempt at least a few therapies to treat acne here.

  4. Moderate to severe acne. Several active lesions. Stage where scarring takes large toll on skin. Several whiteheads, blackheads can take up large amounts of skin especially on forehead and nose. Painful cysts appear as red mountains on the skin. Affects face, neck, back, arms, shoulders, arms, chest, etc. Self confidence is a fraction of what it should be. Incredibly difficult to cover up. Occasionally gets decent days but takes time to repair skin.

  5. Severe acne. Crucifies attraction. Several painful cysts, impossible to cover up even for a fucking hollywood makeup artist. Controls life. Causes not only emotional depression, insecurities, and anxiety but physical pain as well. Girls usually won't even look at you.

Many people go through different stages of these, someone can be a 4 as a teenager and a 2 as an adult. I was around a 3 or 4 and now get the occasional small zit every week. I believe treatments should differ based on severity and how you rate on the scale. There are things every person with acne should be doing, however recommending isotretinoin to a 1 or 2 is a bit extreme. I'll now list treatments based on severity. Simply because a treatment is recommended for a 2 doesn't mean it won't be an effective treatment for a 4 either. Also, more difficult acne in the 2 scale might even require what is recommended for a 4. Acne is intricate and caused from several factors. The only "1 size fits all" approach is isotretinoin and even that isn't a guarantee.

There are also different types of acne. 3 main types are bacterial, fungal, and hormonal. Bacterial acne typically has large whiteheads, cysts, and the look of "traditional" acne. Fungal acne will have much smaller zits that seem to appear at once and cover a large area of skin. This almost looks more like a rash than large zits. Bacterial acne will mainly be fought from the outside killing the bacteria that causes acne known as Propionibacterium acnes, or P. Acnes. Fungal will mainly be fought from within with diet changes and using products containing yeast killers like zinc pyrithione. Hormonal acne is the toughest acne for men, due to no easy way to alter hormones without side effects. This will take the most experimenting from the list.

Dermatologists are usually recommended but I found they're are far too many shitty ones out there with a 1 size fits all approach and don't have the time to try several things on you. That being said, some of these options are prescriptions which you will need a dermatologist to write a prescription for. I tried using OTC options first. If you are a 4 on the scale, you should technically be doing everything on the 4 scale and above for maximum results. I tried including products widely available at most stores. As weird as it is, don't use products that say "For Men." They typically are inferior and marketed towards men who need a strong blue bottle, with the scent of sandalwood and cedar to regenerate masculinity that has been drained from caring for his face. Just use the girl's shit, it's better.

Treatments.

1.

  • Improve water intake substantially.

  • Moderately cut foods from diet containing excess sugar, excess carbs, excess dairy (not including yogurt.)

  • Include exercise into weekly routine.

  • Add a quality facewash (lukewarm water, always) at night or twice a day (Cerave foaming cleanser, Cetaphil gentle cleanser, Neutrogena fresh foaming cleanser are all good. Stay away from beads/scents/exfoliating/baking soda or fruit based. If it sounds gimmicky, stay away.)

  • Practice not touching your face, you might not realize how often you do it. I did it at the gym all the time without thinking about it, transferring bacteria from the infested equipment to my pores.

  • Include moisturizing into your routine (big box stores typically have a ton, but get one specifically for your face. I use CeraVe PM but it's outrageously overpriced I'll admit.)

  • Do laundry regularly especially with shirts, sheets, and pillowcases. Do not sleep in your own oils every night.

  • Control stress as best you can by meditating, sleeping properly, and cutting out toxic people.

2.

  • Add a BHA or AHA exfoliant in your routine to combat breakouts. (Stridex pads but only the red box, not the green, Paula's choice BHA liquid, or The Ordinary. Glycolic Acid 7%.) AHA's will make you more prone to sunburn, BHA's which are typically products containing salicylic acid will not however can dry the skin so make sure you moisturize. Use only on a dry face, after cleansing.

  • Significantly cut out dairy (not yogurt,) carbs, and especially sugar. Eat whole foods (eggs, meats, veggies, fruits, oats.) Do not eat processed food from a box, it's not that hard fatass.

  • Make sure your body has what it needs IE vitamins and minerals especially: zinc, vitamin d3, vitamin a, omega 3, and a probiotic if necessary for gut health. Gut health is incredibly relevant to acne and especially fungal acne.

  • If you sweat, wash your face after. I like to lift in the morning so I can shower immediately after. I also sit in a sauna for 20 minutes beforehand. This is good for your all around health especially skin.

  • Use a form of anti-fungal on your face if you believe you have fungal acne (head & shoulders, noble formula bar, or Nizoral shampoo.)

  • Use Benzoyl Peroxide if you believe you have bacterial acne. This will kill the bacteria that causes acne. (I did not have good effects with this, however everybody is diferent.) Use only on a completely dry face to fight burn marks. Use a thin layer of 2.5%, no more than 5%. This will bleach your clothes and sheets so pass on it if you have an expensive wardrobe.

  • Look into an oil cleansing method. If traditional cleansers and treatments don't seem to be working you can cleanse with oil. This is an effective way to leave your face's natural oils in tact which are necessary and to also strip the bad stuff. SCA has a great guide on this.

3.

  • Look into OTC topical creams such as Differin, sulfur, niacinamide (I swear by this stuff,) or 10% azelaic acid. All can be effective without a prescription.

  • If OTC creams don't seem to be effective, a dermatologist will be able to look into some of the stronger creams (clindamycin is very effective, as well as dapsone and retin-a.) Again, identify which type of acne you believe to have and go into the derm appt. with a general idea to recommend to the Dr.

  • Prescription antibiotics are not my favorite solution, but can be effective. These include doxycycline, amoxicillin, and others. The idea is to kill the bacteria from within which can help if body acne is a great concern, however these also can effect gut health and create immunities to antibiotics. Try to stay away unless these are miracle cures. A derm made me go on amox for 2 years and getting off of it lead to the worst breakouts of my life. I prefer the method of using a probiotic and increasing gut health to fight acne as opposed to killing everything.

  • Do NOT take any androgen blockers. These are becoming increasingly popular due to the effectiveness with females. An example would be spironolactone. These can lead to gynocamastia (bitch tits) and really mess with your endocrine system.

  • Look into light therapy, and even try UV tanning. Most girls cringe at this on SCA but UV light both kills bacteria and fungus that can cause acne. Don't go overboard, just a few minutes and never burn. See if you have positive results in a month and if not don't continue.

  • It is thought now that high estrogen in men can cause acne. Zinc and Vit B6 can help keep estrogen at bay, but more serious estrogen blockers might work as well. Use this as a last resort again, your endocrine system is very delicate.

  • Look into Curology. I used this and they tailor a cream for your face by you uploading pictures. It's $40 for a 2 months supply which isn't bad but it's not cheap either. Worked extremely well for me. If you want to, you can get a free trial and if it works, get a prescription for the same formula from your doctor and attempt to get insurance to cover it. Or buy the raw ingredients online (mine is a mixture of clindamycin, niacinamide, and azelaic acid.)

4.

  • Look into isotretinoin, or accutane. It has some severe side effects in some people (depression, very dry skin, may be hard on heart and liver) but it is the most effective solution on this list. You typically need a prescription, but I know guys on steroid cycles that get it from the internet. It will 100% no doubt about it cause insane birth defects. Do not get your girl pregnant with this, if you have plates you are fucking on it tell them. Don't be a cunt. I'm talking serious birth defects. (side note, if you are not on it you can tell plates you are taking it to convince them to not "skip" a week of birth control. girls want your money for 18 years, but not if it means giving birth to a severely deformed baby. it's great insurance.)

  • Get tested for allergies. Common food allergies might be a contributing factor and if everything else fails this could tell you if a gluten or dairy allergy was affecting it all along.

  • Get blood work done, check to see if you're in good health. Sometimes inbalances in your blood levels can cause acne.

  • Clindamycin wipes on the body can help keep breakouts at bay, especially from sweating during workouts.

  • Professional chemical peels can help get your skin back to looking less scarred/red. They can be expensive, and painful but yield good results.

  • Professional extractions again can be expensive and painful, but can give you fast results if you really need a turnaround in a few days. Had this done once, seriously fucking hurts.

  • Professional facials. I prefer the ones that are more clinical than "spa like." Hydrafacials are more and more common and suck bacteria out of the skin while coating it with a moisturizing layer of hyaluronic acid. Again, these can be expensive.

5.

  • At this point, get on isotretinoin. The valuable time from your life you are wasting letting acne control you isn't worth the few side affects you'll get from this. Your other option is to wait until it clears up and get tons of treatments for scarring which will be even more expensive.

This list is by no means every solution out there. Some guys will figure out that watching 5 minutes of The View caused their acne but I'm not going to include something that will most likely only help one fucking person. In other words, these are general treatments and not a conclusive list of every available treatment.

Feel free to add what worked for you below, I might have missed some stuff. Just remember, sometimes there is almost nothing you can do to completely get rid of acne (even isotretinoin) simply because you are a man that has testosterone coursing through his blood. It's not fair, but it's the price you pay for bigger muscles. Hopefully one day we will have an even more effective pill to cure it without side effects but until then, I hope this list helps you out.


[–]fuggetboutit 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Good read.

Just edit the numbers.

[–]Canofmeat 71 points72 points  (27 children)

I can personally vouch for accutane. While I never had severe acne, it was persistent. I tried all washes, routines, etc to no avail. I will say the following about the side effects:

-It does not cause depression, I have not experienced this, nor does my doctor agree with the claim of this side effect. Take a step back and think about the bulk of the patients on accutane: Acne-riddled adolescents. That group is highly susceptible to depression anyways, and the "initial breakouts" caused by Accutane can be enough to push them over the edge. It will cause fatigue and soreness, but that is not depression.

-Females are the only patients who have to worry about birth defects since they are the only people capable of giving birth. Not that it is a good idea, but male sperm is fine to impregnate a female while on accutane without increased risks of birth defects.

-You need to avoid drinking too much alcohol while on accutane. It sucks, but since the medication is metabolized by your liver, getting shitfaced will really hurt you. You won't feel any different, but you will risk permanently damaging your liver. My doctor believes that drinking in moderation is fine while on accutane, although some suggest that you not drink at all.

-Chapstick. Get lots of it.

[–]Twentyfivedeep 32 points33 points  (5 children)

Depression/suicidal thoughts are a rare side effect of accutane but they do occur. I took it and had to get off within a month because it gave me anhedonia/depersonalisation and I was far past the teenage angst about my acne. As soon as I got off it the symptoms disappeared within a week or two, and I've seen it happen to multiple family friends. Depression is listed as a side effect by the manufacturer itself and just because your doctor disagrees with that doesn't make it untrue. Don't state your conjecture with such surety, especially not when people's mental health is at stake.

[–]Canofmeat 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Fair, but I am simply relaying the opinions of a professional dermatologist who said that he disagrees with depression being listed as a side effect.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Empty suits.

Most professionals often have less effective information about their own field than the general population.

Pareto principle + black swan = empty suits.

Do what works for you. Dont believe someone just because they're wearing a labcoat. Stanley milgram experiment.

[–]myUsernom 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Agreed. I took Accutane, it didn't work. Went back to the docs and had the dose increased.

After about 6 month I had to stop taking it. I preferred life with acne over the side effects. I was suicidal, had dry bleeding lips, dry bleeding nose canal, it's not a miracle cure for everyone unfortunately. I realise I was one of the unlucky 5%.

Edit: typo

[–]daffy_duck233 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took Accutane when i was about 15 and was miserable with all the side effects you listed. Wounds also took longer to heal and skin was so easy to break. Seriously left me with a bad impression.

[–]RPInjectionToTheVein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shit that has that many side effects shouldn't be going into your body in the first place.

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    [–]Matt1110 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Damn bro, you did steroids while on the tane? Ballsy.

    [–]DareyFathom 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Accutane is extremely common for men on cycle. Probably about 1/4 of the people I know that cycle use accutane. I would take 20mg/day on cycle and I could bath in mayonnaise and not get a breakout.

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      [–]SeedThrownAway 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Where to look for the basics of responsibly using steroids and Accutane? I'm acne prone and dont want a shorter lifespan because of steroids.

      [–]DareyFathom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      All the steps with Accutane on cycle are effectively what I'd recommend to do on cycle in the first place. Don't use anything harsh on the system. So probably injectables only. Get bloodwork done before cycle, four weeks in, and after PCT which should also already be happening. Be very limited on alcohol consumption.

      [–]Jas_Statham 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      e steps with Accutane on cycle are effectively what I'd recommend to do on cycle in the first place. Don't use anything harsh on the system. So probably injectables only. Get bloodwork done before cycle, four weeks in, and after PCT

      this. i do the same and I swear it was best decision i made in my life, even i have something like moderate acne. BUT acne back (smaller) in 2 year and I start use it in micro dose (20-30mg in week), work just fine.

      Then i notice effects on my mood even on so small dose. I found research about iso effects on brain and hormones. I decide use only BP cream and eat zinc. Work less fine, but enough for me.

      Be carefull and look for your mood, iso decrease dopamine receptors and hipotalamus.

      ~sry for english/

      [–]BostonPillParty 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I second the accutane option.

      Good thing to do in monk mode since your dry, non-drinking ass will be limited in terms of going out. If you have insurance, do your research and get it done, it’s a no-brainer imo.

      The effects really stack after a few months because of the accutane building up in your system. If you are already depressed I think you will feel worse on accutane. But it will get better and go away after treatment is finished.

      [–]QUITxURxCRYING 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I did “The Tane” and have no regrets.

      [–]itoshirt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Piggybacking off this comment for a small PSA. If anyone has any trouble with chapped lips, first off drink more water, but if you want an instant solution use a chapstick with lanolin. Burt's Bees is a common one with it.

      [–]ghosts_of_me 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Accutane absolutely can cause depression. I was on it for a few months and while I was already depressed to begin with, after I was on the medication it made me FUCKING SUICIDAL. EVERY DAY. It was terrifying to feel that some weird chemical imbalance was occurring and fucking up my head in a very severe way. I had to push through it because I knew it was just the drugs but I hated it so much. Cleared my face though, the doctors told me it would not fail at doing that.

      [–]ComteDeSaintGermain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I did accutane. Very effective but the dry lips were killer, and I hated using Chapstick... So I'd take my pills for a few days, then skip a few days. Needless to say it wasn't as effective as it could have been, but moved me from a 4 to a 1 eventually

      [–]ralavio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I did accutane and it made me break out so hard. Huge cyst on my cheek the surface area was the size of a golf ball. It had multiple exits of blood and puss. After 6 months I rarely would get zits. Now after a year and a half I get a zit once a month. I still have scarring.

      I would do accutane after every single other thing has been tried properly.

      [–]Birddog1918 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I experienced some bad side effects from accutane: 1. Nose bleeds ALL THE TIME 2. Joint pain, i also got extremely bad plantar fasciitis 3. Flushing - my skin was incredibly red almost the entire time while i was on accutane, it was so bad that just the thought of talking to someone would make my face beet red. 4. My lips became so chapped that chapstick wasn’t enough, i had to use vaseline/ aquaphor

      But even with all of these side effects, being able to have perfect skin during college made it completely worth it and i would recommend it to anyone with bad acne

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Is accutane an over the counter drug?

      [–]HerrHoffmann 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      No, you need a dermatologists prescription.

      [–]karlkrum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I had bad acne, had to do 3 cycles of acutane. I’d do it again, my skin is really nice now and I don’t have to do anything, maybe 1-2 times a week I’ll use a face wash in the shower, and use sunblock when I’m outside in the sun to prevent aging

      [–]GirlsHateMtgplayers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Had a lot of acne in high school. I first started getting them when I was ~13 and cleared up at 17. Periods of intense working out sonetimes brought back my acne.

      My acne were pretty severe, enough for my parents to consider accutane, but my experience with it was overwhelmingly negative, so I went off it after a couple of months.

      The main side effect was loss of energy. I would tire out really quickly, making sports practice sessions (2 hours every day + games on weekends) and PE in school that used to be easy extremely exhausting. My times on various medium/long distance runs went up, compared to before and after I stopped taking it.

      This is just one guy's anecdotal experience, but accutane is not to be fucked with. For anyone considering accutane, I'd try waiting it out first, especially if you're young (<20).

      [–]Matt1110 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I second this. Currently 5 months into my treatment, and let me say this has changed my life!! I used to get painful cysts that really damaged my confidence and made it difficult for me to go out and see people.

      Now, my skin is clearer than it ever has been! I know this probably sounds like a proactiv testimonial but let me be clear: isotretinoin works wonders by increasing skin turnover and drying up the sebaceous (oil secreting) glands. Incredible!

      [–]doomedrig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      PsychedSubstance became bald because of accutane.

      [–]tenin2010br 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      Shit dude I needed this when I was 12.

      [–]DemolitionMech 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      To everyone reading this post, please do what he says. I’ve suffered from acne all over my body for years. I went about treatment process half ass and ended up getting permanent white lumps of acne scarring all over my chest and back. It’s done numbers to my self esteem and no matter how much I ‘red pill’ or improve myself it’s an insecurity that has ruined me for years and still does (big reason why I actively read this subreddit). Done many counts of laser surgery but does not ‘improve’ much or as you’d think. ***moral of the story- take care of your skin and do all the things said here as an active routine cause the risk of not doing it is far to high.

      [–]U-94 17 points18 points  (12 children)

      Beef only diet will do wonders in 1) losing weight, 2) digestive & autoimmune conditions, 3) skin quality.

      [–]tc80291 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      I’m strictly carnivore now and my face has never looked or felt better. Complexion is clear and even now. For whatever reason, my skin doesn’t get nearly as dry as it used to. Dandruff has also disappeared almost completely.

      [–]lbrownlbandit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Hmmm, I thought i was the only one who noticed that beef helped. Everytime I eat steak (no potatoes) my face clears up.

      [–]cadillakdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I had this discussion at work. Co-worker went keto at the same time I went half-assed vegetarian. We both lost a lot of weight pretty quick as well as both feeling better overall

      [–]RonieGarret 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      Isn't lack of fiber problematic?

      [–]U-94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      There's a lot of conflicting information (read: propaganda) about every diet out there, I say try everything for yourself. Fiber has not been an issue.

      [–]deville05 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Fibre only helps bowel move quicker. We are used to pooping once or twice a day so fibre is recommended to keep that lifestyle going. Without fibre you will poop caveman style. Once in 2-3 days. Physiologically there is nothing wrong with that. Adjusting to it mentally takes time.

      [–]2comment 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      There is nothing caveman style about it. From caveman stools, we know they ate over 100 grams of fiber a day, dwarving even modern vegans.

      Paraphrasing Denis Burkitt: Big stools, small hospitals. Small stools, big hospitals.

      [–]Junted 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      CUT OUT DAIRY. After 7 years of struggle....this is what i found worked best.

      [–]hulk_hogans_alt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      You had me at “it’s not that hard fat ass” <3

      [–]katharsix 15 points16 points  (3 children)

      Do you know what can be done about skin texture? I had acne when I was a teen, it's gone now, but my face skin is still a bit bumpy and not smooth.

      [–]JSuma 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      The basic skin care routine goes

      • Cleanse (Cerave Foaming) (Cerave Hydrating)

      • Chemical Exfoliant (Stridex Pads) (Neutrogena Acne Def Lotion)

      • Moisturize (Neutrogena Hydro/Day) (Cerave PM/Night) (Rosehip Oil/Night)

      • Spot Treat (Any Benzol Peroxide)

      • Sun Screen (Australin Gold Spf 50)

      The example products are from my past and present routine. Your skin type honestly wont change much unless your sensitive to an ingreident. At the very leat everyone should use a cleanser and moisturizer, change pillow case once a week, drink water and nooo pickiinngg. Germs on face = pimples and irritated = scarring

      Your friends for bumpy skin will be the ingredients; Niaminicide and Ceramides, makes you smooth and supple feeling; Salicylic Acid, brings new skin to surface and tightens pores; Hyaluronic Acid, more smooth, more supple; and Rosehip oil or Vitamin C, both will even out and brighten your skin tone, mix a couple drops with nighttime moisturizer.
      Stay moist, especially at night while youre rolling your face on cotton.

      [–]misterrbro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      One of the best articles on the subject, great job!

      [–]thesmithofwords 14 points15 points  (3 children)

      Never thought I'd come across mexican andy on this sub

      [–]lehappyjuice 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Hmmm want to get rid of acne?

      All of your points are fantastic but the best thing you can do is going to the beach, swim insea water and enjoy the sun and his good effects.

      Sun with moderation is fantastic, fuck all the "if the sun touches your skin you are gonna get cancer and blablabla"

      [–]xXSoroxXx 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Yup. Check out Andreas Moritz for information on how good the sun is for you and ironically how sunscreen increases your chances of cancer.

      [–]namenumbers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'm a little wary of a guy who wrote a book titled "Cancer is Not a Disease"

      [–]unclecrumble 3 points4 points  (4 children)

      I cured my acne with two simple methods I take a supplement called hyaluronic acid everyday and I do cold showers and wash my face with a gentle charcoal soap. Every single pimple I’ve had has disappeared.

      [–]TRPDigesting 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      I'm just now starting on the cold shower thing and it's wild how much of a difference it makes for skin and hair, not to mention the mental benefits too.

      [–]itoshirt 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      It's weird how much you suddenly start needing it, especially once you realize how much it wakes you UP.

      [–]TRPDigesting 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Right? And the only other argument for a hot shower is just that it’s...comfortable.

      Cold showers are uncomfortable for about 20 seconds but then you just adapt. The science on cold exposure is so well-documented too.

      [–]itoshirt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Also relevant to the thread, long hot showers is very bad for skin, especially sensitive areas like the face. When I heard about cold showers I absolutely could not do it and shook the entire time touching the water. Now, especially while I'm hitting the gym weekly, I adapt immediately.

      [–]NotoriousSnake 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      What about getting rid of the scars?

      [–]deville05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      There are creams and peels for that. It takes times though

      [–]Prankoff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Easy.

      Buy a vitamin C serum to get rid of the red marks. I use Mad Hippie vitamin C serum. After applying, wait 20 minutes. Apply vaseline (yes, good ol' petroleum jelly) over the scars. after this, apply sunscreen with niacinamide. I use Cera Ve. Give it a week. Your scars will be less prominent.

      [–]S-Blaze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I never experienced severe acne but 2 things that definitely caused it were dairy and sugar. You should drop dairy anyway it's not the touted healthy drink. It's a baby serum, a bunch of hormones from another specie and it's processed in a disgusting way. Are you some cattle? It will also make it harder to reach your ideal shredded physique with all that extra useless fat and estrogen.

      Vitamin C (injesting it) clear up acnee pretty nicely too and boost collagen production for a nice skin.

      Water, alot of water.

      Sleeping on some super comfortable silk pillowcase also improve skin and hair.

      [–]JerryLawlerPigFace 2 points3 points  (6 children)

      I’m slated to start accurate soon. I’d be interested in hearing anyone here who has tried it share their experience.

      Is it truly a permanent solution? How legit are the side effects pertaining to the heart and liver?

      [–]willowhawk 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      Cured me. Only odd spot here and there now, normally my skins fine.

      Heart and liver was fine.

      Skin dried the fuck out. Peeled horrifically some days. Couldn't see in the dark .Joints became tired and achy all the time. Random nosebleeds. Depression

      If I could chose between doing acutane or keeping the ance till it sorted itself out, I would chose acutane again

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      woah, woah woah. What do you mean you couldn't see in the dark?

      [–]willowhawk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Exactly that. My night vision became worse. One time I was out with friends in the middle of nowhere, no light but moon. They could roughly see where to go, but I could bearly see the person in front. I had to be guided.

      [–]wheelchairschrad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Acutane works like a charm, but it is no joke.

      I was prescribed it in high school and have little to no acne now. There are some serious side effects though.

      Definitely start drinking more water, always have chap stick and carry around moisturizer because your skin will dry out. Also this shit is not to be mixed with alcohol so follow your dermatologist's instructions carefully.

      But it will help you get rid of acne, 100%

      [–]MisterNotKnowItAll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It wasn't permanent for me. I took one 7-month course when I was 14 and one 5-month course last year when I was 21. It clears it forever for some lucky people. All you can do is try it out.

      [–]hiimedwin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      You look kinda like justin bieber

      [–]juju515 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      I used to have 3 when I was a teenager... now my face is usually 1 or less...

      but I still have persistent acne on my back and shoulders... I had them all my life except one summer when I worked as a gardener and I was shirtless for 80% of the day...

      but if I wear a shit acne are there... no matter what I do...

      do you have any suggestions how to treat body (back and shoulders) acne?

      [–]mrmr69 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      Do you change your shirt regularly? If yes, another thing you could try would be changing your detergent. I get issues with the regular detergents and now use one without perfume, colorant, preservatives. It also got a recommendation by some German allergy and asthma interest group. Don't use too much detergent, just enough to get clean laundry, and if your washing machine has the option try some not "save water" mode.

      Also, how clean are your pillow and your mattress?

      [–]juju515 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      I'm very clean and hygienic... also I change t-shirts 4 times a day sometimes... (hate a sweaty t-shirt...) and if I don't have the time to take a shower when changing shirts I just use baby wipes...

      so cleanliness isn't the problem...

      detergent thing is an excellent idea... i'll try that... see what happens... although I don't have any allergies as far as I know (was tested as a kid)...

      I think it's more of a genetic thing (hormones)...

      my father has the same thing on his back and he's in his 50's now...

      anyway...

      thanks for the detergent tip... I'll try that...

      [–]mrmr69 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Is your shoulder and back skin dry or oily? If you look at skincareaddiction, the advice of how to care for it is different for different kinds of skin. So I'd look at that. You might need to use some moisturizer or something.

      Maybe you and your dad aren't meant to walk around in shirts, like I am not made for sitting around all day...

      [–]juju515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Is your shoulder and back skin dry or oily?

      oily I think...

      If you look at skincareaddiction

      cool subreddit... I'll check it out... thanks for the suggestion...

      Maybe you and your dad aren't meant to walk around in shirts, like I am not made for sitting around all day...

      yeah... I think that's it dude... :D
      I should move to Seychelles and trow all my shirts in the bin...

      [–]TRPDigesting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Your timing on making this post is interesting. I've lifted for 10 years and had bouts of chest/back acne for about the first 4.

      Eliminating dairy was what cured it for me.

      But the last couple months, it's returned to a lesser degree. I'm stopping my current creatine supplement to see how that helps out — there's a lot of mixed opinions on whether or not creatine is an acne enabler.

      I believe it can. Although it may not for everybody.

      Your note about wiping off with the clindamycin wipes is good. Even dabbing the excess sweat off before you make it home to the shower helps, I find.

      [–]dream-hunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      When I hit puberty I suffered a lot from acne. My entire body and face was full of acne and very oily. And when I say full, I mean the ENTIRE body & face was covered. I was the only kid in the school with that much acne - until 1 year later, where every single acne was gone. I had literally none anymore, while my classmates had 2-3 around.

      Wanna know the secret? ACCUTANE. Use accutane. Talk to your doctor, say you tried everything, tell him/her to give you prescription for accutane. It will cure you 99% of times. The process takes 6 months and you'll have to deal with some side-effects including dry skin (really dry), but it is worth it. Losing all my acne changed my life.

      [–]nevetskl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Really needed this, thanks man

      [–]DrBrockStar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Let me tell you one thing, acne had CONTROLLED MY LIFE into my teen years. From middle school up until sophomore year, my face spiraled to past the level 5 that OP had mentioned. I was disgusting to look at, it got to the point where people wouldn't make fun of me because they legitimately thought something was seriously wrong. I got accutane start of my sophomore year and I can tell you my life completely changed after that. But this medication is not a joke, my dermatologist would not even attempt accutane until every other avenue was tried. My cousin had liver damage due to accutane and regrets taking it. I had to be consistent with blood work and dosage, this is not something you can wing. But do it right and it is 100% worth it.

      My life changed after accutane. After my cycle, I had lost my virginity, started dating, confidence level shot through the roof. Worlds apart from people staring at me like I was a leper to women finding me attractive. Immediately after accutane my skin as completely baby smooth. Over time, after 2-5 years, acne scars that were remnants of my past acne started to becoming more prominent and deep. I tried chemical peels, I tried fraxel laser resurfacing, I tried needle rolling and TCA spot treatment etc and honestly nothing made it much better. But I would MUCH rather have acne scars than acne.

      Acne scars is one of those things that look a lot worse on women than it does on men. Fortunately for myself I would be considered a high testosterone individual (tall, deep voice, etc) so acne scars add an almost masculine feature (think Danny Trejo). Still, there are some girls who absolutely will not be interested (ive seen it happen where girls who themselves have scarring/facial problems. It seems to be something they've fixated on so they want to avoid it). Almost all girls I've gotten with have had perfect smooth skin so thats never been an issue.

      As long as you project confidence and let people know it doesn't bother you, it won't be something holding you back. For year I had averted eye contact and looked down so people wouldn't see my scars. I would talk to someone face to face and see their eyes scan my cheeks and forehead to look at my scars and lose attention, it was ridiculous. Now, I forget they exist, girls have never complained and men dont really care.

      Very thorough and well-written post by OP, if your stuck at the 1-3 phase definitely work on superficial cleansing and stay consistent. And u/canofmeat was spot on with not drinking alcohol and females need to really only worry about birth defects. Depression however can affect everyone differently. I had no issues (in fact losing acne helped lower my negative feelings overall) but thats not to say its not something you should monitor.

      [–]Halfchub6969 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The creams like differin or Benzaclin never worked for me, but I started taking Minocycline and my acne was completely gone within few weeks. Never had problems with it again. Thanks for this post, unusual but necessary and helpful.

      [–]tinysackbigshaft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I had acne from age 13 to 19 every day and I tried probably 1,000+ methods. I'm 100% clear now only because I use the benzoyl peroxide and the orange glycolic acid, both, every night I got them both at acne.org for like $40

      [–]Soviet_WillyWonka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I am on Isotretinoin, and I am lucky to be healthy, and personally, the only side effect is that I get dry lips, hands, face, and sometimes dry eyes.

      So I moisturize everyday after shower and I carry around a chapstick, which helps me a lot.

      [–]deville05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Haha I just came back from the dermatologist and read this. I've always had acne vulgaris. When I was in my teens it was vulgar. Now it's moderate. I recently started having breakouts again after a few years so I paid the doc a visit. I have oily skin and oily skin is prone to breakouts. I am not in my teens or my twenties either. So for anyone who thinks it's simply age related, it's not. It depends on your diet, your gut, your skin type, stress, your lifestyle and your genetics.(my mum has bad skin too). Oily skin on the other hand does make you like 5-10 years younger.

      I have done so many treatments and peels at various stages since I was 20 that my skin has become thin and sensitive so there is a lot of things I can't do. For example apply benzoyl peroxide at this point even for 10 minutes, burns my skin

      If you have acne prone skin you should definitely keep a skin regiment going cuz just when you think everything is good...It's back.

      Wash your face two to three times a day, apply a non comodogenic moisturizer and sunblock. When you want wash your face, use a wet wipe.

      For medication, speak to your doctor. If yr getting chemical peels or laser shots, get it done once every 3-6 months depending on your affordability. I have only just started getting more consciously steady about it otherwise I would just wait for the skin to act up and wait months and years and not take care of it properly. But once you have a break out, you are too late.

      God I do envy people who don't have to deal with this bullshit.

      [–]listenhereboi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Good article.

      Just as a note, there is no evidence that isotretinoin causes birth defects for males. Only pregnant females need to be concerned with this.

      [–]RedditDogX 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Try cutting out WHEAT and products with wheat/gluten.

      I did most everything (including Accutane). While the accutane helped the most, was still getting acne. I then tried stripping everything out of my diet and adding back in one by one.

      For me cutting wheat was the key. Like flipping a switch.

      [–]alexwong95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      As someone with a gluten and lactose intolerance I couldn't agree more, although I'm also on a moderate dose of test and tren which kinda balances it out. Nizoral shampoo with ketacozanole in it works great for DHT related acne and hairloss as an aside.

      [–]1998bb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      In response to, "To fight their own acne problems girls can; diet without losing muscle, tan to hide acne, wear makeup to hide marks, control their hormones with little to no side effects, have a billion products marketed to them..".

      Hi, some thoughts.

      You as a man can:

      • Change your diet without losing muscle. There is such thing as a plant-based diet that gives you all the good fats, carbs, and proteins you want/need for gaining muscle. Having a plant-based diet is the best thing you can do your you skin and overall health.
      • Wear makeup to hide marks. If you buy the right products and blend well, it will look completely natural.
      • Buy products marketed towards women. Skin is skin. Although I think most cleansers and moisturizers are gimmicky so you need to know what you're buying, just because they're not marketed to men, doesn't mean you can't use them!

      As for the hormonal birth control, the amount of side affects is tremendous. I advise all women to avoid artificial hormones like the plague. They have been attributed to cervical cancer, infertility, depression, suicide, and even more terrible things.

      [–]Appex1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Once I got my vitamin D level rebalanced, my acne improved greatly, however, it was still not gone, so I'm going through an accutane treatment, which has messed with my head a little, but is killing my acne like a beast.

      [–]IncomeByEtnicity 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      I am a little worried about all the washing/chemicals you are putting on the face and in your system. Acne is caused by an imbalance. Surface treatments and chemicals don't address the imbalance, if anything it makes things worse.

      When you wash your skin with anything other than just water and friction, you dry it. So the glands surround that area secrete more oil to compensate for the dryness, making your skin oily quicker than if you had just used water. So you are fighting yourself.

      Gut health is incredibly relevant to acne and especially fungal acne.

      This should be your first point. All the chemicals you ingest including protein shakes and processed vitamins messes with your body. If you have a sever breakout mentally or physically (for this post physically), you need to take a step back from the carb loading, eat non processed foods with lots of leafy greens and just wash your face with water and friction.

      These are situations where you body is asking for help to regulate itself. At these points give it time and peace to reach that equilibrium on its own. Any attempt to speed the process only will exacerbate things.

      [–]CaptainSupream 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I believe in this.

      Gut health and skin health are closely related. So much so that taking probiotic (yes, bacteria for gut health) powders and liquids and applying topically will help most people with skin issues, provided that you stop cleansing so frequently.

      Only in recent modern times have we been so obsessed with being clean. Its abnormal and harmful for the skin microbiome. showers and twice a day cleansing regimens mean the beneficial bacteria on your skin are non existant. It should be bi weekly spot cleansing in the creases of the body. Or spot clean daily with probiotic sprays, liquids, yogurts etc. To allow the chance for your beneficial bacteria to grow and for you skin to benefit.

      Since no high tech, box store, celebrity/doctor endorsed solution worked for me Ive adopted the regimen as follows to cultivate my beneficial bacteria and have had the most success with skin appearance.

      p.s. No one has ever said I stink even close friends/girls, yes I gym, yes im active and sweat. i use an aloe vera deoderant

      For body: Bi weekly (sometimes longer) spot cleansing showers and general shampooing and conditioning.

      For face: Never cleanse use probiotics, like Inner Eco unflavored, probiotic powders on wet face, or Mother Dirt rinse off with water; this spreads the bacteria while face is damp I apply an oil like avocado oil or sweet almond witch hazel optional and great cut out trigger foods. for me peanuts, wheat, dairy

      a cool source: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3535073/

      [–]Xogenn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I was a 1 or 2 by your scale but when I changed my diet to contain only meat, water and coffee I'm 0 I guess. Recommend meat only diet for this purpose been eating like this for close to a year now.

      [–]DEVi4TION 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I had cystic for a while. Big nasty ones. This regime worked for me:

      2x a day for a few weeks, then down to 1x, then eventually every time necessary.

      1. HOT water, as hot as possible without scalding. Apply sylicilic acid wash.

      2. Then, rinse with COLD and pat til a little damp and apply a simple as possible lotion containing 10% benzyl peroxide.

      Takes 4 weeks before you're clear but it works forever.

      [–]Sisu6972 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I tried drinking massive amounts of water and eating healthy to an almost obsessive degree and it did not get rid of my acne. I still am in the process of fighting it but the best product I have ever come across is rodan and fields “unblemish” . It is about $150 so it’s pricey, but if you have acne this cost is an investment in your future- something that will increase your quality of life by a high degree. I have a lot of acne scars too and I’m about to start using a derma roller. This is basically what looks like a lint roller but instead of tape, it has micro needles all over it. The needles penetrate your skin, causing your face to produce new collagen- you are also supposed to rub your face before and after with a certain liquid that has vitamins in it that helps stimulate collagen growth.

      [–]512165381 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I was on 60mg isotretinoin for a year. Everything dries up, from lips to eyes to nostrils. Things settled down after 3 months. Acne is 95% gone.

      [–]Flying_Wingback 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I had a pizza face in high school. It all went away after I started using AcneFree (3-step process).

      [–]erosmiseo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Bruh for having level 5 acne in high school and my parents told me it would go away ... thank god that they were right. My acne slowly got better after high school.

      I used to over wash my face since literally nobody was helping me just standing back and laughing

      [–]CensorThis111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Awesome guide. My entire family is testosterone ridden so after years and years I am very familiar with all these different methods and their effects.

      Never bothered to cross all the T's and dot all the I's when I was younger, but looking at this now I bet that anyone following this guide religiously is going to see very dramatic improvements.

      [–]akrok297 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This post came at a perfect time, what in your opinion helped you the most at getting rid of blackheads on the nose? I've been considering getting one of those metal tools or strips.

      [–]kingharknian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Why do you not cut yoghurt? Greek fine?

      [–]LeftHookTKD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Vitamin A supplements work too

      [–]ClassyNotFlashy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      So at one point I had mild acne with moderate breakouts and I have brown skin so when the pimples were most ripe they would leave really bad scars that wouldn't really go away....I was super insecure back then. Then when I moved to my new house there was a package of proactive that got delivered to my house(it belonged to the previous owner) he never came and claimed it so I thought I'd give it a try and my God it worked like wonders for me...the key with that was consistency. Now I'm not endorsing this product or anything but it worked for real well it might work for you too who knows.

      [–]Blaze528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Can’t recommend Curology enough. I had an ongoing plan around last year and the formula that is crafted for you is awesome as well as basically having a dermatologist that is always on call to communicate with or give you tips or advice on extra products to use. It can be somewhat pricey, but I would say it’s definitely worth it.

      [–]AllTheDevilsAreHere_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Great post. Another good tip is to clean your phone every once in a while to get rid of those germs.

      [–]DaftOdyssey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      My only acne problem I have is back acne and it happens whenever I'm back to working out. Dont know why if I take showers right after working out.

      [–]Austin6403 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Strangely enough ive had acne my whole life and kept it at bay with bactrim and clendomycin (prescription) and got on 500mg/test a week keeping everything else the same and my acne is slightly better. Im not a scientist but ill take it

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I had bad acne on my cheeks...I was panicking because this girl was giving me IOI's and I thought I was getting laid. Put HARSH charcoal cleanser on my face OVERNIGHT and tried to scrape away what wasn't torn away when I peeled that shit off my face. Lucky to have gotten away with just a few minor bumps. Still have acne but it's much better now

      [–]Coo_Larrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I would definitely not recommend accutane. The side effects are awful and it's not worth the risk. I had cystic acne in my 20s and after wasting money on every otc treatment imaginable I finally but the bullet and paid out of pocket for a dermatologist. Once a week I'd go in and consult with a doctor who prescribed me doxycycline. Then I'd see an aesthetition who would give me a cleansing with a mile cleanser, then she would stay every fucking sit with a lancet and squeeze the puss out. Afterwards she's wipe my face down with liquid nitrogen then put a charcoal mask on. After washing the mask off she'd finish with a moisturizer. I also was prescribed clidomycin and retin-a. It was a long time ago so I'm not 100% on the order of things but it only took a couple months before it was completely cleared up.

      One day I showed up for an appointment and two of the women behind the desk were giving me strong vibes. I hooked up with both at different at times and that's how I knew that the treatments had done their job.

      If you suffer from cystic acne, do yourself a favor and find a dermatologist who has a competent aesthetition on staff. Before you spend money ask about the treatments that I mentioned and it will be money well spent

      [–]juiceperks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Any tips for getting rid of acne scars? Don’t have acne anymore but got some rough scars from my level 4 acne days

      [–]EIIiotRodgers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I was prescribed retin-a and that I worked pretty well. Interestingly enough chemotherapy has seemed to completely eliminate all acne.

      [–]kingloaf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      for a good face wash i use the grapefruit acne cleanser and the blue makeup remover liquid, usually found in the same section of store. just a small amount each in the shower or before bed helped me a lot.

      [–]SuspiciousCaptain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You shouldn't advertise for less sugar/carbs in diet and then ask people to eat oats, fruits and vegetables. A real approach to low carb would be a keto diet or zerocarb. For me, being on a Zerocarb/Keto diet helped me the most. Aswell as 18 - 24hs fasts ocassionally.

      [–]Enigma221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      remembers severe acne phase in teenage years

      cringe

      Thankfully I only ended up with mild acne now.

      [–]3d_truth 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      Ok you covered number one to death.

      For reals tho, I had minor acne and nothing worked so I took accutane and literally never had another pimple in my life.

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        [–]3d_truth 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Well I remember very well. I was about 21 or 22. I think I just took it for just a few weeks and my acne just disappeared . And I literally never got a pimple again.

        Good hygeine and shitty acne creams don't work.

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          [–]Ivan_The_Reddish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          He said it was only mild acne, so it makes sense he wouldn't have to take it as long.

          [–]redditster00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Glad you mentioned water intake, this is so underrated. My face clears up within a week when I drink about 3.5 - 4L of water a day.

          [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          i only cleaned out my acne at around 31 years old. nothing worked, at least not permanently.. what has worked was getting a clarisonic and their soft brush heads. using natural soap to wash my face with and use it as lather for the clarisonic. then after brushing with clarisonic, use raw organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar on my face. for the first week it burned like a motherfucker, but then the skin gets used to it. overnight i could see the difference. now i only do it once a week to maintain. haven't had a pimple in years.

          [–]SecretAgentHam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Tea Tree Oil works absolute wonders. I steal my wife's "Body Shop" face wash in the shower and it clears my face right up. It does dry your skin a bit but a little moisturizer will fix that right up. Great post OP.

          [–]Notoast4you 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You mentioned blackheads but not as to many solutions for them. If you have gained an excessive buildup over time what options are there?. I understand forcefully trying to remove them can be bad due to the damaging of pores.

          [–]arrau98 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Acne friend here. Not completely cured yet but I can offer a little more advice

          • Vitamins A and D. Don't know which one it is as I started taking both at the same time. But one helps with my acne. Probably Vitamin A. I take 20k UI of both per day.
          • Zinc helps
          • Nofap... haven't heard this often but it seems to help me.
          • Drink water
          • Don't touch your face, and I know "dude just don't touch your face" is a meme but seriously don't touch your face. One touch. That's all it takes for a pimple to break out, for me, and every current breakout you even touch gets irritated and lasts all the longer.

          [–]Ivan_The_Reddish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'd second vitamin A. I'd been taking D for a while before starting A, and still had mild to moderate cystic acne. After starting ~50k iu a day of vitamin A it started clearing up within a month.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is all good advice. Different things work for different people. Dairy is a huge contributor to a lot of people's acne. I suffered real bad, like edge of suicide bad for 20 years. I even took leprosy medicine from some specialist who had a brilliant idea. In the end what fixed my problem was Soolantra. I apply just a little around my eyebrows (area between my eyes) and it somehow magically keeps my whole face clean. If you have reached your wits end with other options, research Soolantra. It's used to treat mange and mites in dogs and cattle, but in the last few years has been formulated for use on humans. Super-effective for rosacea.

          [–]Th3orem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This was the post I needed, thanks

          [–]upstairstraffic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Regarding your bedding, I recommend people use Egyptian cotton sheets they are pricey but you don't buy this sort of stuff often and you spend 8 hours in them. I've found them much more pleasant to sleep in than polycotton shit.

          [–]FullOfShiznit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          OP, I really don't want to read this because I have no problems with acne But I had problems earlier in life, turned out it was a so called iodine acne Which is caused by to much iodine in your body. In my case plants and products containing iodine should be avoided: All kinds of onion as well as fast food and grain (some fertilisers contain iodine) In case you didn't cover that one, put it on the list then. You did well, that's hell of a work you've put into that.

          [–]FullMetalAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I’ve had great results from drinking water with a full lemon and lime. Cleared my skin up significantly after a week and I have added it to my routine for maintenance.

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          [–]NosMonster13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I’m 15, and so my skin is much more prone to acne because of the hormones, boosts in testosterone, etc...but my acne was a 4 on the list; it was horrible, and no topical treatments would work. I’ve been on Accutane for 5 months now, about to start my 6th (and final) month. I started the first month with one 30mg pill a day. Then they bumped it up to two 30mg a day and I’ve been sitting at that for the past months.

          The difference it’s made has been amazing. My face has went to a 4 to a 1, if even that. My skin isn’t flawless, but the only problems are very minute amounts of blackheads, but even they are going away.

          The treatment isn’t even quite done yet has changed my life and been so successful. The side effects weren’t bad either; the only thing you’ll need really is to get used to wearing chapstick, as your lips will get dry, although to a much lesser extent if you do dosages of 20mg or 10 mg.

          Hope this all helped, PM me if you have any other questions.

          [–]Ivan_The_Reddish 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          If you're worried about accutane, try using vitamin A instead. Isotretinoin is simply a specific form of vitamin A after all, and while vitamin A itself may not be as effective gram for gram it'll still help. I do 50k iu a day, making sure to take in vitamin d and k as well. For me at least it seems to have done the trick.

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            [–]Ivan_The_Reddish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Mine was/is cystic, and my shoulders/upper back were always worse than my face. I still get the odd cyst here and there, but it's closer to 1 a week on my back instead of a couple a day.

            [–]FoxyWolfGuy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            This is a solid post - I do have a question regarding back acne though. Since I started lifting regularly, cleared up my diet and started taking Zinc, D vitamin and magnesium, I started getting mild acne on my back. I think this is because of an increase in testosterone, but I am yet to do blood work. It’s not intense, it’s quite mild - looks like a deep red pimple and it doesn’t really stand out too much, however it still annoys me. I was wondering if you guys could recommend something for this?

            [–]Ivan_The_Reddish 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            You could try vitamin A. Works similar to accutane since they're related, but you don't have to worry about the expense since vitamins are cheap and no doctors visits, and you don't have to worry about sides since you won't be on the crazy high doses of a precription. I had roughly a 4 on the list above and taking 50k iu a day helped immensely. You probably wouldn't need to take as much. I also supplemented with vitamin d and vitamin k.

            [–]FoxyWolfGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Cool, I’ll check it out. Thanks!

            [–]onmyway3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I had type 5, severe acne. I've checked the example photo and it was worst than on that photo. I was 15, shitty age to have problems like that... I've tried literally everything, besides all kinds of lotions, creams and tonics I've also been treated by electrolysis, lasers, pollen, mud, masks, hydrolysis and can't even remember what else. I was devastated and my parents spent shitloads of money to try to help me with my problem. Just by coincidence, a friend suggested I go see a doctor he knows, and she prescribed (ro)accutane!! Along with that I've used Benzac cream. I could almost see the changes every day, can't describe how good I've felt. Now when I see someone with the same issue I had I stop them to tell them what to take and what to look for online, even if they feel embarrassed sometimes they will gladly listen to what I say and feel thankful. Spread the awareness. Thanks OP.

            [–]Rex83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I was at level 4 and had 2 cures of acutane done (which was exceptional as my dermatologist said that for 95% of the people, 1 cure is enough). I had pretty annoying effects: recurring eye infections, super dry skin and lips, bleeding noses. But in the end it cured 95% so I'm happy I did it. Can recommend it if all else fails.

            [–]YasserZe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Just go to a dermatologist

            [–]urmie76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Best tutorial about overcoming acne the natural way!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGmpq43YxMA

            [–]2comment 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            There is no point keeping yogurt, it's a piss poor probiotic. Live sauerkraut has like a 100x more. Kim chi too, if you can find any live (read: unpasteurized) stuff.

            [–]Biggie_Smores 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            To add for some;

            I love milk that shits got 6g of protein per fuckin gulp.

            But you may be like me where milk gives two-week long brutal zits.

            [–]JcHgvr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            isotretinoin

            The biggest problem with it isn't dry skin. It's that you cannot workout hard as this can lead to tendon calcification. And that's permanent.

            [–]jays2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Wish I had this when I was younger. Thanks for posting op. To those suffering, know that many others suffer just like you but maybe you don't see it. Don't be embarrassed to seek the professional help you need and do it sooner rather than later

            [–]DK-Growth 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            Accutane for 6-12 months aaaand it’s gone. Worked for me.

            [–]listenhereboi 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            It just came back for me a few years later.

            [–]DK-Growth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Second treatment does the trick

            [–]listenhereboi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            That's what they say about the first treatment.

            [–]twy3440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Quit Dairy. This tip comes from Brad Pitt and it works.

            [–]Swan_in_a_Cage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Being vegetarian helps. Meat is full of stress hormones from the horrific conditions in slaughterhouses. Stress increases acne.

            [–]NomBok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Protip: In my experience, and what I've read online, body acne is the kind that is fixable with pyrithione zinc. One common product with that is head and shoulders shampoo.

            I used to have hella chest acne, looked like shit, tried all the typical "acne treatment" stuff like clearasil, wouldn't work. Started rubbing on regular classic head and shoulders onto the area, and soon enough it was gone. You may even try once during the shower where you rinse it off, plus a bit at night where you rub it in and let it sit.

            You will very likely see results within days tops, and maybe even cured after a week. I wouldn't keep putting it on forever after it's gone though, or else it might get resistant or something. They also sell special pyrithione zinc soap on amazon for tough cases, which has higher percentage (like 2%, compared to head and shoulders at 1%)

            [–]handsofchalk29 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I'm about a 1 so I am not that concerned. But how often should I moisturize?

            [–]badzachlv01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Good post. My face is fine but my back has been breaking out for the last two years and nothing I've tried so far has done anything to help it.

            [–]EqualResponsibility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            A few thoughts:

            I started TRT and have experienced acne for this first time in a while. I was usually on pellets and my levels didn’t get as high. I moved to injections and now sit around 1100 levels.

            My current SO couldn’t care less about my acne. Her words were “Do you not realize this is every woman’s dream. To pop your bumpies?” She takes care of it on my back and uses these creams and treatments. I asked her about my skin and she said “Well you’re a man, of course your skin isn’t so good.”

            Has anyone ever met a woman that cares whether a mans skin was like a woman’s? Don’t get me wrong, the acne sucks and does affect my self esteem to a small extent. But really, I’ve never lose a date or a relationship because of it.

            We should look st ourselves and determine if what we’re experiencing is women seeing the self esteem issues acne is causing and not the acne itself.

            [–]will_berttttt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Accutane worked wonders for me. I would definitely recommend for moderate to severe acne. Don't be scared if you're derm recommends it!

            [–]inexorable_stratagem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Caveman Regimen was the ONLY thing that worked for me after 10 years of acne

            [–]naIamgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            If you have persistent acne you must gonon accutane as soon as possible. Acne never go away on its own. Yes your mom is wrong.

            [–]Ravenanom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Dude having Acne since I was a teenager has been the biggest confidence killer in my life. Especially coming from a family of guys who never had any acne in their life constantly telling me to wash my damn face.

            Anyhow the older I have gotten the less acne I have on my face which has been a godsend. I'd say my Acne is 1 and 2 which essentially means I can't get rid of it. Mine however is like 90% hormonal and as you mentioned that's the hardest one to get rid of.

            I'm trying to do Nofap but when I get to day 3 or 4, my face transforms to a 3 or a 4 and this stays for the entire duration of however long I don't bust a nut. But as soon as I do bust a nut and release all the built up testosterone, within a day or two my face clears up quickl. Only time I have as close to a clear skin as I can ever get.

            I eat right, I go to the gym, could work on managing my stress levels and I clean my sheets every week and have new pillows every 2-3 days. But I have no idea how to manage my hormones.

            Edit: Also zero acne anywhere else in my body except face. I'd be happy with acne in my body but why the face I don't freaking understand

            [–]UrRealDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            FYI: I went through 2 courses of Accutane and my acne still came back. Each course gave me 6 months to a year of (almost) perfectly clear skin though, so it wasn't a total loss. Obviously I'm a hard case when it come to acne, but people should be aware that it isn't a cure for everyone.

            First course my doctor said it cures 90% of people. Second course he said would cure 90% of the people it didn't cure the first time. Fuck me. While having acne definitely bothers me (everyone would prefer perfect skin), I've pretty much learned to live with it. Besides, I've gotten plenty of pussy while having a face full of zits.

            [–]Karawanax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            is it bad to wash your face with really cold water?

            [–]gore313 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            How much does Accutane cost without insurance?

            [–]Zarathustraliver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Accutane is a fake lab-made form of Vitamin A with the mentioned side-effects. Rather get real vitamin A from Beef/lamb liver. The dose you'd get from a few slices for dinner is more than the average accutane dose and unlike provitmin A or accutane you can't overdose. 'Vitamin A'/beta-carotene from fruits and vegetables is not bioavailable and must undergo an innefficient conversion process in the liver to be useful. So use animal-derived source i.e: beef liver. I noticed that pasta would give me horrible deep blotchy acne. Its a carb thing. Not just because of the insulin but because of gluten and bad bacteria growth in the gut. The carnivore guys here are on to something, just make sure its well-sourced meat not soy/corn fed.

            [–]EPArt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Didn't see it listed here but one thing i used to do that helped somewhat were those facial wipes the sort that have tea tree oil or aloe vera. But i pretty much stopped when I started using those beauty cream bars that dove make along with tons of water. I rarely get more than a couple spots and if i do its either because im not drinking enough water, not using that soap enough or the worst one is I ended up consuming to much sugar in a short amount of time.

            [–]AshyLarry27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Watch for anything that triggers inflamation, constantly test what you consume.

            I fought moderate acne for like 2-3 years before realizing Splenda in my coffee was the root problem. Think about how clean my diet was getting and how much product I was using before finally, something as stupid as a sweetener was the cause of it all.

            [–]1v1crown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I had severe acne and Accutane essentially cured me completely.

            Now I just remove dairy from my diet, switched to almond milk, and I can say I am very happy with my life.

            [–]redpillthrowaway1214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            You touched on this with the diet but if you have chronic digestive problems treat those first (ibs, colitis etc).

            A common side effect of poor digestion is acne. My back and face immediately cleared up once I started properly treating my digestive issues.

            [–]CanuckMan95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Accutance.

            /Thread.

            Forreal, don't waste time with any honey mix mumbo jumbo. Nuke that shit off of your face and move on.

            [–]The_Ron_Swansonson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Do you have any advice for discoloration/marks after the acne has gone away?

            For those who are battling acne, Mine used to be pretty bad but cutting out processed carbs and dairy eradicated it completely.

            [–]Diddlydangerous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I read somewhere acne was FAR less common in third world countries without the Western Diet. Now I'd be willing to bet that anyone who juices with spinach or kale (shitload of vitamin K) and some nuts, as well as getting their Omegas with chia seeds or something will NOT have acne. Natural diets just don't create acne. Your skin is your largest organ and reflects your health, and you are what you eat. I'm very curious if people do have a blender full of greens if they still suffer from acne. Let me know if that's the case for anyone.

            [–]refusewool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Don’t you need sunscreen after BHA application too?

            [–]FrancisNevettshire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I am not a nutritionist. (Although this sounds like and was originally meant as a disclaimer, I immediately realize that sadly, such a statement should not harm someone’s credibility these days.)

            I am consuming dairy now more than I have ever done before, and I have been almost completely acne-free for the past year. However, I don’t consume milk: only lots and lots of cheese, butter and cream (I easily get over half of my calories from these). I have changed my diet quite radically for the better since my acne has disappeared: I consume very little sugar or carbs, and if so only via fruits. So I guess if dairy is related to acne, it is through the milk sugar, which is low in all dairy products except milk itself (because while you can jug down a litre of milk; if you do so with cream to get the same amount of sugar, you’ve eaten for that day).

            Now the real disclaimers: this may also be related to my age. Who knows, maybe even to no-poo. I also abandoned cooking with vegetable fats. (reason: WILearned on youtube)

            I had stage 2.5 acne about the ages 12-19, then it gradually decreased. Now (aged 23) I’m at stage 0 and some rare, unlucky weeks it may bounce to stage 1. With ups and downs, it has definitely decreased over the past 3 years. Now I have quite dry skin though (have to rub of the scales off my face each morning). Dandruff ever since age 12.

            [–]Mildo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Definitely the appropriate sub for this post!

            [–]NoTimeForWar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Would like to add on that red light therapy seriously works for acne. I've been using 660nm growing bulb on my face and balls for a couple weeks now. Insane improvements on my skin quality to the point where I've dropped all anti biotics and creams the doctor prescribed. They stopped working anyways.

            [–]RcskaSedd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I have a cheap and easy solution that can help fight and prevent acne, but you have to do it regularly.

            Wash your face with cold water whenever you use the bathroom.

            When I was in high school, I tried everything to get rid of my acne. It was really bad. It wasn't until one summer I went swimming (I usually don't go swimming much) is when I realized my face settled down after my swim.

            Ever since then I started washing my face with cold water and It has helped tremendously. However, this is not a quick fix. As the author said, fix your diet, your T level, and your lifestyle.

            [–]Robster25 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            One point you might add (and which is easily overlooked but correlates with your point: "Make sure your body has what it needs IE vitamins and minerals especially"):

            - Try to stop masturbating for a short period of time and watch what it does for you in terms of acne

            With every load you shoot out, your body loses minerals. I remember my teens when i was fapping heavily, I got fucking bad acne. Could be hormones during puberty, too, but I often read that people who quit masturbating, see a facial improvement in terms of acne.

            [–]assholeofthesky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            massively agree with this, my skin is far better when i'm not jerking off, that's probably a lot of the reason why acne occurs for men more often than not

            [–]Ravenanom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            My skin becomes better when I shoot a load.

            [–]MyReddit6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Awesome content and I'm sure this will help a bunch of people. I just want to toss my hat in the ring for a TLDR version & give a few simple tips that help me massively - wash face after riding motorcycle - dirt gets on skin. Anyway, here's what I do - it's short and simple, see if it helps anyone:

            1) Take multivitamins, specifically E, zinc, fish oil 2) wash face only every other day 3) wash/use virgin coconut oil as moisturizer in morn & nite 4) dab lemon juice or white toothpaste on a pimple at onset 5) drink nothing but water & protein shakes

            That's pretty much everything I do, and at most I get one pimple every few weeks. When my diet and vitamin and coconut game was shit, so was my skin. I DO NOT use any netrogena or brand name chemical washes, I found those dried me out like crazy and made things wayyyy worse. Cetaphil was alright when I was a teenager.

            [–]ChrimsonChin988 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            This is kinda bullshit guide btw. Acne or no acne is 99% genetics. Some people never get it regardless of what they eat and how they clean their face while others get it despite a clean and healthy lifestyle.

            My acne was pretty severe nothing I did helped or it barely helped eventually I was described accutane and my face was clean within 2 months. (It’s a pretty heavy medicine wouldn’t recommend unless absolutely necessary)

            I agree hormonal inbalance is one of the main things that gets you acne but the other is the size of the pores in which the pus is “stored”.

            Your diet or how you clean you keep your face won’t affect the size of those pores so if those pores are large, everything you do will be pretty much futile as was what happened in my case.

            [–]explorer1357 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            Only one thing let me get past the acne phase.

            Minimizing jerking off.

            [–]GodOfDinosaurs -1 points0 points  (4 children)

            Take Accutane after you're done growing; it could suppress height otherwise. Did mine junior year of college and it's an awesome permanent solution.

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