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Field ReportCheating wife tells her lover (me) how loyal she REALLY is. (self.TheRedPill)

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Summary- A married plate told me about a girls only vacation she recently took out west where her male "friend" lives. Her Beta husband got upset as he didn't know about the west coast Alpha til after she left. She told me how unreasonable her husband can be because she is sooooo loyal. Then two hours later she rode my cock in her car before going home to her "unreasonably" jealous husband.

So I caught up with my married slutty friend recently for drinks. Its been awhile and I wanted to reconnect. Summer is here and there is more free time for extra curricular activities.

She was just back from a trip with two single GFs to someplace in Cali where her ex-bf surfer alpha now lives. Apparently, her husband was unaware this "girls trip" was to the same town where Chad the surfer lives. She told me how her husband yelled and screamed over the phone. Doesn't sound like he is capable of doing anything but whining so we know here how women treat these guys.

Then she told me how the husband really had no right to give her such a hard time because she is so loyal and a good wife to him.

I honestly give zero fucks about her Cali trip or her husband. I was just listening and remaining cool & confident and relaxed. I gently teased her by reminding her about all the recent times I had her legs pinned behind her ears. Yea... You were one of the most loyal fucks of my life I told her

"oh.. that doesnt count. I meant he can trust me except for you /u/theultmatecad."

Lessons learned: Women lie constantly. To others AND themselves. Women accept no responsibility for anything they do and its pointless to expect otherwise.

EDIT- So much fun reading the bluepill broknighting. I am even getting private messages from fags begging me not to continue "hurting" another mans family.

Mods....please take out the trash with that banhammer. keep the message here pure


[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 667 points668 points  (48 children)

If women weren't like this we wouldn't constantly have to be told to respect women.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 202 points203 points  (8 children)

Being told to respect women made far more sense back in the day when women were told to respect men.

[–]southernmost 127 points128 points  (3 children)

They don't even respect themselves anymore.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This one is so true. How can I respect someone who doesn't even respect themselves?

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    [–]HeadingRed 21 points22 points  (1 child)

    No you will hurt the feelz, you need to respect a woman just for her being a woman not anything she does.

    In the meantime for you my man get fit and ripped, earn big, learn the guitar, acquire property, be a complete badass, be sensitive, take no nonsense, be patient, be driven, don't focus too much on your career. Once you turn into Ryan Gosling with a nice 401k and the right house your almost there!

    [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Being told to respect women made more sense when women were still women.

    They don't want to be women anymore, they want to be men.

    [–]BowlOfCandy 110 points111 points  (20 children)

    After thinking about it, that perspective applies to quite a few things including feminism, organized religion, and politics.

    Moral: think for yourself, trust no one.

    [–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen 34 points35 points  (3 children)

    "Put no head above your own" is one of the oldest recorded pieces of advice. The Buddha's got some RP gems

    [–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 46 points47 points  (8 children)

    "Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king." - Tywin Lannister

    [–]kanji_sasahara 19 points20 points  (1 child)

    That man was alpha as fuck.

    [–]Assassin1476 18 points19 points  (2 children)

    "Lions do not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep." -Tywin Lannister

    [–]Philhelm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    "It is not a question of wanting. The throne is mine, as Robert's heir. That is law. After me, it must pass to my daughter, unless Selyse should finally give me a son. I am king. Wants do not enter into it. I have a duty to my daughter. To the realm. Even to Robert. He loved me but little, I know, yet he was my brother. The Lannister woman gave him horns and made a motley fool of him. She may have murdered him as well, as she murdered Jon Arryn and Ned Stark. For such crimes there must be justice. Starting with Cersei and her abominations. But only starting. I mean to scour that court clean. As Robert should have done after the Trident."

    -Stannis Baratheon

    [–]1Snivellious 12 points13 points  (1 child)

    As I've heard it, anything that it takes all of society to convince you of deserves suspicion. If people are constantly lecturing you about something, consider why they have to work so hard to make you believe it.

    [–]singeblanc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    For the same reason: never eat or drink anything you've seen advertised on TV.

    [–]Purecorrupt 16 points17 points  (3 children)

    It's funny how long it took me to get to the point of "Trust no one".

    Personal story time.

    My dad told me be was raised to " not trust the white man". He actually almost married a white woman. But she was a higher rank so it was literally just "white men". Then he told me a story he had with a closer co-worker (white guy) and he told him the same thing. The guy basically said it's not white men it's any man. People say you can't trust anyone, but family. Well in my angry teen years my dad specifically told me if it was between " my mother or myself" it would be my mother. Well there goes trusting family. Then you get into a shitty relationship for the first time and you go "can't trust these hoes". Start working for a company and you realize it is also a popularity contest. "Fuck this place".

    But its not that one girl. Or that one guy. Or that one family member. That company isn't that much better than that company. In my opinion you should never yield 100% trust to anyone.

    [–]ont_anon 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    ...my dad specifically told me if it was between " my mother or myself" it would be my mother. Well there goes trusting family.

    Trust is earned, just as respect is, regardless of whether it's family. If you were being delinquent during your "angry teen years" then why would you expect to be trusted?

    As an example - and I am not suggesting that you did any of these things - if I was a father whose teen son was "angry" and stole money from my wallet, borrowed his mother's car in the middle of the night for joy rides and I got called down to the drunk tank all the time to get him out, how much trust do you think I'd be extending? Not very much.

    [–]JablesRadio 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    A very underrated, yet simple point.

    [–]IronMeltsinmyHands 53 points54 points  (2 children)

    Respect would come naturally, were it not for this.

    The dual purpose sexual Strategy begs that women have two faces.

    One where they constantly look to fuck every cock, and one where they try to manage their public face and social reputation.

    Remember, every woman has two faces. Only one of these is real.

    Same goes for men but, that's another story.

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      [–]zxsteven 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      Not much different than being told they don't have sex on the first day. They just want to think they're okay. Even if they're the only ones telling themselves it.

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

      This comment belongs in the RPHOF.

      [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 65 points66 points  (4 children)

      That's because I typed it in a gym parking lot while listening to Rammstien.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Haha, you never disappoint!

      [–]Anderfail 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Honestly I don't really respect too many women. I see the same bullshit over and over enough to know that it's bullshit. It's a shot in the gut, but whatever that's life and shit ain't fair. You can either be a bitch and whine and complain about it or you can be a man and take it as it is (aka harden the fuck up).

      [–]1independentmale 286 points287 points  (14 children)

      Husband is a fucking pussy. If your woman goes on a trip to see a guy, she's fucking him. Period. Next that bitch.

      Run that male hamster and pretend she's not cheating if you want, but next her anyway on the grounds that a good wife doesn't spend a bunch of time hanging with other dudes. Oh, she'll call you jealous and insecure and attempt every shaming tactic she knows, but who cares? She'd rather hang with surfer dude than her man. That's fucked up.

      Why the fuck any man would work to put a roof over the head of a disrespectful, ungrateful little tramp completely baffles my mind. Either you appreciate and respect me and everything I do for you or GTFO. This attitude is probably why I'm destined to spend the rest of my life single, but fuck it. Better than being walked over and cheated on.

      [–]italian_mobking 156 points157 points  (3 children)

      There's an apt Spanish saying, mejor solo que mal acompañado, which literally translates to: better alone than in bad company.

      [–]BlackHeart89 16 points17 points  (3 children)

      but next her anyway on the grounds that a good wife doesn't spend a bunch of time hanging with other dudes.

      Even if there are some women out there who really are just going to hang out and nothing more, 99% of them are going to fuck. The odds are so heavily stacked against the positive, that it would be stupid to assume otherwise. And even then, the guy is not inviting a bitch to stay over his place just to hang out. He's trying to fuck. Even if she isn't. Damn that.

      The husband knows the deal. But he's married. He has no power but to forfeit that alimony.

      [–]kragshot 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      The husband knows the deal. But he's married. He has no power but to forfeit that alimony.

      Sometimes, you gotta take an "L" for the greater good. Pay that bitch the fuck off and get on with your life. All that is going to do is eat him up inside until he's just a hollow shell of a human being marking time until the grave.

      MAN...FUK DAT!!!!

      [–]BlackHeart89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I agree wholeheartedly. Tell the bitch, "here's your money. Now bounce, bitch".

      Hopefully he'll realize he's only delaying the inevitable and that he should save himself the drawn out heartache.

      [–]TheSKSpecial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The husband knows the deal. But he's married. He has no power but to forfeit that alimony.

      The price you pay for freedom.

      Reminds me of the old joke; why is divorce so expensive? Because it's worth it.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Took the words right out of my mouth bruh

      [–][deleted] 227 points228 points  (64 children)

      You basically just found the hamster distilled down to its purest and rawest form. In her mind she is the saint. In her mind her husband is needlessly insecure. No amount of reality could rain down hard enough to break that little solipsistic bubble.

      [–]1independentmale 227 points228 points  (27 children)

      No amount of reality could rain down hard enough to break that little solipsistic bubble.

      Sure it can. The guy is probably a typical beta bucks, which means he's bringing home the majority of the bacon if not all of it. The best way to humble a bitch is to cut her off. This is a long play and you have to be very patient with the process.

      First you set your finances up for divorce. Have a plan for every possible scenario and a little cash stashed away to hold you over. Then you drop that hammer like Thor himself. She's going to get a boatload - my ex walked with six figures - and she's going to be a smug little piggy when it happens. She'll brag to her friends about ruining you and spend your hard earned money partying like a rock star. Be patient.

      How long do you think it takes a basic bitch to burn through a six figure divorce settlement? In my ex's case, about 18 months. Six months after that, my oldest turned 18 and her child support got cut to the bone with only the one kid left. She had to get her first job ever in her mid thirties. Now she's working her ass off for minimum wage and struggling to make rent on her tiny apartment. Dumb bitch could have bought a house with cash - I told her to, even offered to help walk her through the process, but she snapped and reminded me "we're not married and I don't have to listen to anything you say anymore." Lmfao.

      As for me, I'm better than ever. It took me a decade to save up that money she took. Took me 3 years to replace it without her around to drag me down. I used my newfound freedom to work my ass off, determined to come out on top and I did. See, beta bucks still has a great fucking job. My ex will never have six figures to her name again, but my employer pays me that much every year. Now that I'm single no woman can ever take it away from me again. I took a major short term loss in exchange for long term gain and I won.

      Guess who isn't so goddamn smug now? Guess who came crawling back, begging for my commitment? Guess how I responded.

      [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 52 points53 points  (1 child)

      Guess how I responded.

      I should imagine you told that transparent parasitic bitch to go fuck herself. Better yet, you fuck her, then leave 5 dollars on the side "get yourself a coffee, my treat."

      [–]iamaguythrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      And see the horror she says that she is pregnant with your kid. Haha.

      [–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (1 child)

      I cheered out loud when I read this

      [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

      This is the greatest story I've read today. Incredible.

      [–]The_BeardedGentleman 30 points31 points  (7 children)

      Took me 3 years to replace it without her around to drag me down.

      Thats the part that i find the most interesting.

      How much more successful people in general are when they don't have to deal with married life.

      Tip to anyone out there working or thinking about dealing with the stock market... Do not include your spouse or girlfriend or whatever. They will drive you fucking insane. They are not emotionally equipped to deal with the constant ups/downs and wins/loses associated with the stock market.

      Good on you though bro. Don't ever deal with that shit again.

      [–]1independentmale 26 points27 points  (4 children)

      How much more successful people in general are when they don't have to deal with married life.

      It depends on the person. Some men are content to sit on their asses and play video games, watch tv and so on for hours every day. For those men, a wife and child may be the push they need to go make something of themselves.

      If you've already got drive and ambition, though, most women are only going to hold you back. With me as the only income earner, my family lived paycheck to paycheck for years at first. We sacrificed a lot so she could stay home with the kids. 100% of my income went to the family, there was nothing left for me to spend on myself, to invest and so on. There was always a long list of things the wife thought she needed and those "needs" we're always greater than the sum of my income. Even later in the marriage, when I was making six figures, she was spending it all and still longing for more. It wasn't terribly unreasonable stuff. She wasn't out buying Gucci. But things like horse riding lessons and private school tuition for the kids and payments on the SUV she had to have and on and on, that shit adds up quick.

      So I did side jobs to afford the things that I wanted. I bought and sold commodities online, I placed ads on Craigslist and helped people around their houses for a flat hourly rate, I did a little day trading here and there and so on. I kept that side money for myself, spent some on guns and gold and crotch rockets and whatever else I wanted and saved/invested some for the future. It was a huge point of contention in the marriage, wifey wanted access to all of it for her "needs" as well but even beta bucks me had the good sense to put his foot down and refuse her.

      I got distracted from my original point.... Which is, I was shocked how much money I had left every month after she was gone. They gave her a child support sum that I thought for sure would cause me to lose the house. Turns out she was spending twice that out of the joint account every month. Now, I've always known how much she spent - I'm a great money manager and have monthly budget spreadsheets going back almost two decades now - but a lot of it wasn't obvious. Take food, for example. As a family, she spent $800/mo. As a bachelor with my son half the time, I spend $250-300 and we eat out a lot. My electric bill went down by $80-100/mo. With one less car to insure, that bill went down $60. Health insurance is $150/mo cheaper. I could go on.

      So instead of finding myself bankrupt post-divorce, I wound up with a nice little raise even after the child support. With nothing to do but work, that's what I did. Got a solid promotion a year later and didn't tell a single soul (otherwise she'd have taken me back to court for more $$). Continued doing side projects, investing in clear win/win opportunities and so on. Little things, a few grand here, a few grand there. Several years of that and no woman to piss it all away and I started to have some real money again.

      I come home from work and my house is exactly the way I left it. Nobody is there to harp on me. Nobody is there with their hand out wanting this or that. If I want to go out, I do it and nobody is there to whine and bitch about it. It's quite nice. There are downsides. There's nobody there to cook me a nice meal, nobody to welcome me home, to hug, to love, to fuck, but wifey didn't really do those things anyway so I'm not missing much. I have an LTR but she has her own shit going on so we only see each other on weekends. Still, I'm happier and more content with my life than I've ever been. I was married 15 years and it was not good for me. It dragged me down and held me back and the negatives substantially outweighed the positives.

      I will never marry again. This I know for sure.

      [–]The_BeardedGentleman 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      It depends on the person. Some men are content to sit on their asses and play video games, watch tv and so on for hours every day.

      Very true! I was definitely speaking towards the motivated male crowd haha.

      100% of my income went to the family, there was nothing left for me to spend on myself

      One of the biggest complaints I've ever heard from my father in marriage was that in ## years I've never bought myself anything. He was ridiculously happy when he bought himself a motorcycle. It was the first thing I'd ever seen him buy that was purely for him in 20 years.

      Doesn't help that most families spend what they make (or more... $$debt$$). So like you said, even though your pay increased, so did your spending.

      So I did side jobs to afford the things that I wanted.

      For some reason it never really occurred to me I could be making extra money via side jobs. I mean, I know 20 hour jobs, thought about that. But never just like odd jobs on craigslist. I might actually look into that when I get home.

      Got a solid promotion a year later and didn't tell a single soul

      smart man

      Still, I'm happier and more content with my life than I've ever been.

      And thats the end game. You've seen the worst and now you're just seeing the uphill climb, not even the top of the mountain yet.

      [–]1independentmale 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      For some reason it never really occurred to me I could be making extra money via side jobs.

      Oh man, find something you're passionate about or otherwise good at and get to it! I did a lot of buying & selling. eBay, craigslist, Amazon. I'd hit up local auctions and buy things I knew were underpriced then turn a profit moving them online. I was always into cars and I'm a good negotiator, so I'd find cool cars, buy them for less than their value, fix them up a bit and sell them for a profit. Often made a cool grand for just a few hours work doing that.

      Best thing about this sort of deal is there are no set hours to keep. You can work deals when you want. I did a lot at night after the kids had gone to bed. Way better than a lame part time second job.

      [–]kragshot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      How much more successful people in general are when they don't have to deal with married life.

      That's not always true. Every once in a while, you find a bitch who is down for your dirty-ass draws. If you come up on one of those, then she is a definite asset. With that being said; you have to know how to handle her and keep her in check.

      Talk to Ice-T about that shit. He's been married twice. When Darlene began to fuck up, he sent her ass back to the pasture and then got ahold of Coco. That thick-ass, fine bitch is down for whatever he does. If he has to kill somebody, her ass is there holding two shovels; one for him and one for her.

      You just gotta be about owning your will and not letting anyone break you of that ownership; especially a woman.

      [–]kragshot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      This is exactly what I am talking about.

      Guy here took the "L" and rolled with that shit and he's back in the game better than ever.

      You can't be afraid to cut a bitch loose and put her ass to pasture. There are plenty more thoroughbreds out there to choose from. You are not a man of solitary will unless you are prepared to act. FDR had that shit down pat; "The only thing to fear is fear, itself." You can't ever be afraid to stand up for your own self.

      All fear is telling you is that you are about to do something risky. It doesn't mean that you can't do it or that you are going to fail. It's just your mind's way of telling you to keep your wits about you.

      Fuck materialism; be prepared to throw all that shit away if it's the only thing that will sever the chains that a no-good bitch has you shackled with...if you are truly about your shit, you can kick the whole house of cards down and rebuild that shit on your own. You did it before...what's to stop you from using what you learned the first time and doing it again?

      Yup...only you can hold yourself back. Your will is the most important thing that you can own and if you are not prepared to defend that, then you have already lost the game.

      [–][deleted] 126 points127 points  (33 children)

      If there is one thing I learned over all my years of playing the field it's when a woman calls you insecure, you better watch out..

      First insult a cheater uses is that word

      [–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (7 children)

      It fits a larger theme. If a woman uses a shaming tactic of any kind then you know you're hitting something deep.

      [–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 45 points46 points  (4 children)

      Or someone else 'hits deep'.

      [–]The_BeardedGentleman 11 points12 points  (3 children)

      "When she tells you to go deeper but you done run out of dick"

      [–]Native_of_Tatooine 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      I used to hit my ex's cervix. Funkiest feeling in the world hands down.

      [–]KHJohan 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      Like fat women referring to healthy women by calling them 'skinny bitches'. They don't wonna work on themselves, they would rather shame anyone who would rightfully criticise them into silence

      [–]real-boethius 74 points75 points  (19 children)

      It would be good to put together a collection of "what women say" => "what they mean".

      1. I'm not going to have sex with you => I am thinking about having sex with you.

      2. You are insecure => I am cheating on you.

      3. I am a strong empowered womyn => I am on a chad-quest.

      4. I'm not into strong muscular guys => Big muscles make me wet.

      5. I admit x but it's your fault => Seeing you can prove that, I admit it. 'Facts' are mean. But the actual truth is far worse.

      6. I'm not a feminist => Feminism is not cool, as everyone knows feminist are ugly bitter man-haters. So I say I am not a feminist, but I am happy to reap all the double standards that favour women courtesy feminism. For example, when I divorce you, I will take every cent I can get and do my best to estrange you from your children.

      7. I am a virgin / I want to wait - I respect you too much to rush into anything => I am looking for beta bucks, now that the Chads don't find me so attractive any more.

      [–]1runnerrun2 12 points13 points  (5 children)

      I am a virgin / I want to wait - I respect you too much to rush into anything => I am looking for beta bucks, now that the Chads don't find me so attractive any more.

      I don't think post-wall women claim to be virgins..?

      [–]BrunoOh 25 points26 points  (3 children)

      Born again virgins, perhaps? She's changed after all, and you can't hold the past against our little snowflakes.

      [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

      I know what I want now. I have matured ( I cant compete with younger women for Alpha cock)

      [–]mryddlin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      that's one of my favorite. i,e, I want money and a man to bring it now.

      [–]el_superbeastooo 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Book of Pook has several chapters on "Womanese" similar to this. Just finished reading it last week, worth a look if you've never read it.

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        [–]life_manager 1 point2 points  (5 children)

        Going to be a cunt and say, can we not do the stupid intentional misspellings of words like "womyn." God, those blue pill losers use it on every sentence and it is honestly the most pathetic and retarded thing I've ever seen. You're a man, spell words as they're meant to be written. I understand they are lonely, pathetic losers. We don't need to stoop to their antics.

        [–]1xwm 4 points5 points  (3 children)

        Counter point: If she is disrespecting you enough to call you insecure, you fucked up your frame enough to show jealousy at minimum.

        [–]Kill_Your_Ego 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Also I've found that basically everything a woman accuses you of is projection. If she calls you insecure it's because she's insecure. Anything a woman accuses you of and even the shaming tactics they use are projections of her own mental state.

        [–]skoobled 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Her opinion of herself comes first. Reality comes about seventh

        [–]redzorp 52 points53 points  (13 children)

        Good God. No judgment against the OP but the state of modern marriage is just a complete and utter disaster.

        I can't believe there are still male fools out there who get married. Are they even fucking sentient? Do they have an internet connection? Do they have any power of observation to simply look at the world around them?

        [–]through_a_ways 32 points33 points  (9 children)

        I can't believe there are still male fools out there who get married. Are they even fucking sentient?

        Modern marriage is like modern college. The primary reason people do it is because other people do it, and 80% of the attemptees will be worse off after doing it.

        [–]The_BeardedGentleman 4 points5 points  (7 children)

        Always amused me when I made more 2 years after highschool via interning and certifications than my ex did who had 180k in student debt.

        [–]FuckyouAvast 15 points16 points  (3 children)

        Yea but that really isn't surprising or a good way to measure success. The benefits of college are apparent when you look at the lifetime earning potential, not just your starting salary.

        [–]malariasucks 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        180k is stupid unless you become a doctor or a lawyer, but even for a lawyer that's too much

        [–]thefisherman1961 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        Do they have an internet connection?

        It never fails to amaze me how ignorant people still are this day in age. They care more about sitting on the couch eating potato chips, wondering what's going to happen next on Game of Thrones than they care about educating themselves about reality.

        [–]648262[🍰] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Ignorance is bliss, as Cypher said in The Matrix. These people are truly happy with their lives in bubbles.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I wonder this myself. One of my plates recently got caught by her husband (apparently saw one of my text messages, I didn't even know she was married). This woman's facebook page said she was single, had her maiden name, and her husband didn't even know about it. All her friends and family members seemed completely oblivious.

        Here's the real kicker... the only reason she even told me that she was married was because he pays her phone bill -- in other words, she was worried he was going to call me and she wanted me to lie for her.

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        [–][deleted] 175 points176 points  (30 children)

        While I definitely agree, I think its worth mentioning there are a large group of us who were not fortunate enough to find TRP until after we got married.

        There are TRP-like ways of making the best of a losing hand. TRP is the only way to hang on to your kids and assets.

        [–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 48 points49 points  (1 child)

        ♂ added.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Thank you sir.

        [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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          [–]RPSigmaStigma 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          It's more like compartmentalization. She'll completely "forget" until she runs in to her alpha widower 10 years later in the grocery story, then it'll all come rushing back.

          [–]systemshock869 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Yeah they never forget the past. They just keep it quiet until it suits them to throw it back in your face.

          [–]A419a 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          And people wonder why in Islam the woman must be with a male chaperon.

          [–]tuxedoburrito 7 points8 points  (21 children)

          As a married man, do you see it as a losing hand? Why?

          [–][deleted]  (11 children)

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            [–]kalstate 19 points20 points  (2 children)

            It's an extremely clear negative expectation investment.

            Yep, those are the words I've been looking for in a nutshell. That's something you can say in a brief conversation, and if your audience is interested, they can ask for more details. I like it..

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              [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              By not opening your mouth, you gain power by remaining noncommittal.

              Indeed, this is a general law of power no less:

              http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-4-always-say-less-than-necessary.html

              And this:

              http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-20-do-not-commit-to-anyone.html

              [–]kanji_sasahara 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              Marriage is investing half your net worth in a depreciating asset. Any man with half a brain would say that's crazy.

              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              "Investing" implies a potential profit. Marriage is actually playing Russian Roulette with half of your net worth.

              [–]fckredditt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              it's going to be tough to do because women pressure you like crazy into marriage. marriage is like a parachute for women as they age. meanwhile it has no benefits for the man. he has always taken care of himself and will too after the divorce. meanwhile most women are just waiting around for a man to take care of them.

              [–]loooobie 27 points28 points  (78 children)

              First TRP post, long time lurker, TRP practitioner.

              There's one thing that has always irked me about TRP...

              I hate to destroy this little circlejerk, but there do exist women who are not going to cheat on you. Yes, it's a tiny percentage of women, and you still need to be pretty alpha, but it's definitely not outside of the realm of possibility like TRP would have you believe.

              I don't believe in marriage for other reasons. But if you date/marry a woman who is not a party girl/slut, is intelligent and confident, loves you, and you are also a cool dude who commands respect, the chances of her cheating on you are slim to none(excluding very edge cases: celebrity, etc.)

              Almost all the women described in posts on TRP are of the average girl who doesn't respect her husband. You mean to tell me Clooney's wife will cheat on him? Not a chance. One, she doesn't need the validation of other men because she's secure with herself; two, she doesn't get into situations that can lead to "mistakes"(do drugs, get wasted, etc.) So as long as you date a woman who is smart, confident, secure, and thinks you're higher value than she is, she will be loyal to you. I ask anyone here to dispute that.

              AWALT is a great term to propagate because it's very useful in practice, but once you have some experience with women and have internalized the TRP philosophies into your everyday life, you come to realize that AAWALT(Almost...) is a more accurate term.

              Unleash the downvotes!

              [–]mister_barfly75 44 points45 points  (7 children)

              as long as you date a woman who is smart, confident, secure, and thinks you're higher value than she is, she will be loyal to you.

              Yeah, we all know that Princess Di was 100% loyal to her husband, the FUTURE KING OF THE UNITED KINGDOM

              [–]interestedplayer 26 points27 points  (3 children)

              Or CR7 girlfriend, most famous and rich (and propably handsome) soccer player in the world. One week out the door by her choice and riding Dwayne Johnson...

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                [–]TyPerfect 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                "Better" than the rock, right. I lift but that guy has to eat spoonfuls of steroids daily.

                Good point though.

                [–]kragshot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Little brother; what you are missing is that it's not about what she does...it's about what you do about it. If the trick cheats on your ass, then next her ass and "on to the next one (if that is what you want to do)."

                My partner in Louisville caught his old lady fucking another of his running buddies down there. After partner hit it the third time, he contacted him and let him in on what was happening. He had old boy get some photos and video of the whole thing and then served her ass with papers.

                He got the kids, the house, and everything else in exchange for not letting the case go to court and embarrassing her ass as a cheating, lying heifer.

                It's all in how you handle that shit, man.

                [–]DannyDemotta 71 points72 points  (8 children)

                "Loyalty" isn't just about fucking other dudes, it's about the general malaise that takes over a relationship when the woman no longer respects the man. He's "cheated" out of the woman he initially LTR'd/Married, and ends up with a lazy, excuse-making, maw-stuffing shell of the woman he initially fell in love with. One who can have an entire week off from work, but won't clean the house because "I was just so busy, tee hee"

                If I have to be a superstar Movie actor worth hundreds of millions to be able to have a Woman not cheat on me........but, you know, still have the damned threat of being able to take HALF my net worth because she got bored........then that's a pretty fucked position to be in. But yet, here you are spinning it as a positive. WTF?

                AWALT. Not AAWALT. AWALT. You are incapable of destroying "this little circlejerk" by repeating all the same Bluepill fuckery that has previously been eviscerated. TRP is about more than just getting your dick wet, and stopping other men from wetting their dick in the same place.

                [–]Redpillc0re 19 points20 points  (2 children)

                There are good reasons to constantly remind men that women are not what they think they are. It's basically because of the media and general culture which bombards men about how amazing and precious all women are. Yes there is a small minority of good women, but statistically the vast majority of men will not have those women. So for all intents and purposes, AWALT until proven otherwise.

                [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                I wouldn't even say that. All women are capable of the behaviour we talk of, AWALT is a spectrum that applies to all women. Different women are simply on different parts of the spectrum. A 10 AWALT is textbook TRP. A 1 AWALT is a great woman most of the time, but if you slip she will cheat on you until she can find better and then dump you.

                Some women engage in primal behaviour rarely because they are well-raised, the majority are far too obviously feral. A minority seem like they are well-raised, but actually are just excellent liars - they don't get caught, and they're good at compartmentalising, so after she finishes slurping on Mr. Chad -Doesn't Count- Thundercock she's home an hour later talking about the curtains with Billy, rejecting his advances because "Decorating is more important right now, don't pressure me!"

                Machiavellian to the end these bitches are.

                [–]RationalistFaith1 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                Dated the best, religious and grounded. Still picked up signs of strong AWALT. Hypothesis:DENIED

                [–]2Overkillengine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Heh. A good background/social group can often just mean that she has that more incentive to lie to you to keep her standing.

                One of the best places to find some "secret" freaks is at church. Look for the ones dressed to the nines with the crucifix dangling precisely in the middle of their exposed cleavage.

                This is not an accident. It is NEVER an accident.

                [–]648262[🍰] 14 points15 points  (12 children)

                AWALT means if you get lucky or your frame breaks then all women will cheat. All she requires is the other guy to give hard enough tingles.

                The same can be said of men because I don't buy into the idea that nobody has their price. If a 10/10 is throwing herself at your sorry ass 7/10, and you have a 5/10 nagging wife at home - you'd tap the 10.

                But if you go into a relationship with her she will have a much higher SMV than you, and she will naturally cheat on you - because you just got lucky.

                [–]RPSigmaStigma 13 points14 points  (5 children)

                Yep. I used to think I would never cheat on my wife, until I was at a party, negging some drunk slut hard (not even knowing what "negging" was, I was just amusing myself talking shit to a silly girl) when to my surprise, at the end of the party, she literally climbed on top of me and ripped her clothes off. The whole time I was fucking her I felt like I was dreaming, until I came on her back and reality suddenly set in. I went in to a deep depression for months until I caught my wife having and affair with my (supposed) best friend (who had white knighted his way in to her pants by ratting me out and convincing her that I was still seeing the other chick -- side lesson: don't ever give your friends any ammo they can use against you with your girl).

                [–]kanji_sasahara 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                Trust no one except for your dog.

                [–]antidoxdevice 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                Hah, I got more upset over you getting played by your buddy then your wife cheating.

                [–]RPSigmaStigma 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                Oh definitely. There is no worse feeling in the world than the betrayal of your best bro. Besides, honestly I never blame women for cheating. There's a reason that in the old testiment men were told not to seduce their neighbor's wife, but nothing telling women not to cheat. Even back then it was common knowledge that women are impulsive, emotional, easily manipulated and slaves to the tingles. If your woman cheats on you, it's your fault for not seeing the signs, and there are always signs.

                [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                The same can be said of men because I don't buy into the idea that nobody has their price. If a 10/10 is throwing herself at your sorry ass 7/10, and you have a 5/10 nagging wife at home - you'd tap the 10.

                Very likely given men's sexual strategy to spread your genes far and wide. However, our behaviour include savior syndrom, dedication and oneitis, which can compensate for the philandering urge.

                Women's sexual strategy (hypergamy) is also to conducive to cheating. But solipsism and hamstering will actually encourage it.

                [–]648262[🍰] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                I'm not sure if I see oneitis, dedication and savior syndrome is a typical men-only concept. Would care to expand on this?

                Women are first and foremost in need of security, their Beta-Max. Once he is locked down she needs the tingles, their Alpha-Chad. Sometimes this is the same person, sometimes it is five.

                [–]Kill_Your_Ego 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Women don't need their beta anymore. The government is the beta bucks for all women and the state is also the alpha enforcer for all women. Women are all already married. They are married to the government. We're just the studs who fuck them. Oh and its also our tax dollars that pay for the government that has married all of our women.

                Which is, of course, why I want to destroy the government.

                [–]648262[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Biology has not quite caught up to the fact, so women still chase tingles.

                [–]NightGod 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                TRP has very little focus on LTR theory. Which is perfectly fine, most people coming here are just taking that first jump across building tops, they're still a good, long ways from fighting off a city full of Smiths.

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                [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I'm going to allow that link because it's a decent thread related to this topic.

                [–]interestedplayer 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                Yeah, like you will be downvoted from all the newbies who want to believe that maybe, just maybe, they reaaaally know better and there is that special someone out there.

                I tell you one thing. Beware of being the player who fell for the good girl.

                And on a side note: Would any woman ever cheat on Christiano Ronaldo? Richest, most famous and handsome soccer player in the world, treated like a god? Well we all saw what happened.

                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                Im interested to hear your experience with the longest amount of time you have spent in a relationship and the outcome.

                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (15 children)

                There is a sense that these discussions can get a little too unfalsifiable. If I reported several long-term relationships (including my current one) wherein everything was good and no cheating took place, what would people here say? Some number would at least be thinking that I was simply unaware of my LTRs misbehaviour and that I couldn't possibly be correct.

                So a girl doesn't cheat and all is well, good sex and etc. That means you just didn't catch her; she does cheat that means she was like that. Ergo, all women are like that with no way to falsify the statement. Dubious.

                I'm not a rockstar or George Clooney, but I fuck good, constantly improve, etc., etc. That seems to have been enough, several times, for several girls. It's a bit disingenuous to suggest that all women have such a severe lack of self-awareness that they'll tell you how little they like crack while literally smoking it. Maybe the one's that OP fucks, but far from all.

                [–]648262[🍰] 9 points10 points  (12 children)

                It's not the idea that all women cheat constantly. It's that all women can cheat, and it happens in very specific scenarios. If your SMV is lower than hers - she will be looking. If you're just dating then she'll more likely to just stop dating you at that point, but if you're married it becomes a hassle.

                [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (7 children)

                I'm of the opinion that the only thing which is moral or good to women is that which privileges them best.

                If maintaining the strictest standards benefits them more (or there's more to lose by failing) then that is the standard she will hold.

                Doing the "right" thing only matters when what is right is right for her.

                [–]CR7_Bale_Lovechild 10 points11 points  (6 children)

                To be fair this is red pill philosophy when applied to men.

                [–]sweetleef 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                Although there is no official "TRP canon", one fundamental concept seems to be that males should strive to be honorable. Not the sacrificial, romance-movie definition of "honor" as deifying and deferring to women, but in the sense of remaining true to one's principles and upholding obligations despite outcome.

                [–]CR7_Bale_Lovechild 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Wow, you're spot on. At any rate, I'm new to TRP and have been working my way down the side bar. Cheers for an honest, reasonable response. You won't find this kind of thing elsewhere.

                [–]skoobled 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                But we do encourage men to be honest. Leave 'em better than you found them, etc

                [–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (6 children)

                "I was not born last night, I know these promiscuous women are not right" - Dwayne Carter Jr.

                [–]droppern 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                Didn't Lil Wayne say that? /s

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                That is the nickname of the great philosopher

                [–]exuals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Yeah but it sounds better from Dwayne

                [–]heatyourpipe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                That song screams female nature.

                [–]soccerplusaviation 89 points90 points  (3 children)

                Everytime I read stories about women cheating, Loyal by Chris brown starts playing in my head.

                [–]wimmyjales 53 points54 points  (2 children)

                Moral: Do everything but trust these hoes.

                [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (1 child)

                Get bread, get head, then fuck these hoes...in that order

                [–]kjvlv 21 points22 points  (7 children)

                women never cheat. right before they screw around they tell themselves their relationship is over to absolve themselves of any guilt. They just forget to tell the SO that it is over.

                Then after they mess around, they decide to rekindle the relationship and VIOLA, back to being faithful. again, the SO never seems to be in on the actual decision process.

                [–]TheRealPancomplex 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                This is the most concise, precise and honest way I have ever read or heard anyone explain women's behavior and mindset as it pertains to the subject matter.

                [–]LifeAtPeace 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                This is the most common behavior I have observed with all the women who cheat. I have to say you explained it so perfectly and precisely.

                [–]rpscrote 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Perfect.

                The difference between a "good" woman and a "bad" woman is that the bad woman fucks the guy, then breaks up with you. The good woman breaks up with you, then fucks the guy. In other words, the good woman doesn't forget to tell the SO where the bad one does. Expecting anything more than that is futile

                [–]bakbakgoesherthroat 44 points45 points  (7 children)

                I'm pleasantly surprised by my own reaction to this FR. Usually whenever I come across these stories, I always feel angry, frustrated, and depressed but this time around... nothing. In fact, this is so stereotypical that it sounds comically funny.

                OP, I have a question though: if you were to look at this woman from a third-party perspective, would she strike you as a cheater?

                [–][deleted] 58 points59 points  (5 children)

                If the third party is red pill aware, then EVERY woman strikes him as a cheater for the right guy

                [–]cariboo_j 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                "I'm so loyal..." as she cheats on her husband.

                Good god. The lack of self awareness.

                Do you think she would even qualify as sentient? Would she pass the mirror test?

                [–]BlackHeart89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                She sounds fucking retarded to me.

                [–]Bottled_Void 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                Who the hell has their wife go on a vacation without them? Maybe I'm just old.

                I know it's not redpill and all, but I married someone I like, and like to spend time with.

                It sounds to me like the husband has married someone who's SMV is way beyond his and she's spending the change. I'd like to think he'll wise up and drop her, but he probably feels 'lucky' to have her.

                [–]Tarnsman4Life 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Betas gonna beta, eventually they have the moment where they have irrefutable proof their wife is taking Alpha cock during the relationship and they have a decision to make, cuck or run. Until chad's cock slaps their wives in the proverbial face infront of them though denial is not just a river in Egypt.

                [–]1favours_of_the_moon 85 points86 points  (8 children)

                Lessons learned: Women lie constantly. To others AND themselves. Women accept no responsibility for anything they do and its pointless to expect otherwise.

                It's been stated previously. Just plate a bitch. Because if you're a dude, and you're in a relationship, it's an open relationship, whether you know it or not.

                [–]BleauGumms 54 points55 points  (7 children)

                It's not your pussy, you're just the current user.

                [–]kalstate 6 points7 points  (6 children)

                Shit, I don't even own this computer. Do we own anything? There is only one thing that can be owned...our own character. What boggles my mind is that even that one thing can be given up and then we own nothing.

                [–]648262[🍰] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

                What does it mean to own something? We are on the deep end the intangible here, but in reality ownership doesn't exist on a naturalistic level.

                You can own a house, but that is a word which sums up certain rights given to you by the law. In two hundred years people will look back and say "The user of that house at that time..."

                It's all temporary.

                [–]CacTye 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                Ownership is defined as having the right and the ability to exclude others from a certain piece of property. I own the house under this definition only as long as I pay my mortgage and property taxes . if I stop paying either one, someone will exclude me. On this theory, only the state ever owns real property.

                The female is analogous to the state here. Even when you own the pussy, you are responsible for maintenance and upkeep. This can be paid in various currencies - alphas pay in tingles, betas in bucks, and everyone pays in attention. But you can be damn sure if you fall behind you will no longer have exclusive use and occupancy of that female.

                [–]kalstate 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                600 years ago, that's how the Native Americans thought. They didn't own the land, they belonged to it. It seems truer than present day annexation and exploitation, which explains the decay of modernity.

                [–]648262[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                I'm pretty sure the Cynics and Buddhism dabbled in the same concepts.

                [–]1raceAround126 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                This is the classic, "Well I fucked him already at some point in my life. So fucking him again just doesn't count!"

                Ah, I remember my married plate. She was fucking hilarious. Last I heard, after I dumped her, she went riding most of the available willing cock in town for a few weeks straight. Her new husband none the wiser, thinking she was off having to spend extra time at work.

                [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                "Loyal" in this case means "Happy to continue taking them good ol' beta bucks, wouldn't dream of leaving them. err I mean you."

                [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

                That guy is a loser. Sadly, due to blue pill conditioning. Marriages are INVESTMENTS or ALLIED PARTNERSHIPS, not some silly trophy status where you put a ring on a woman's finger just because she's hot. This guy failed in his marriage by selecting a "hot wife" and not taking into consideration her actual abilities to BE A WIFE. He's like the sucker that buys a timex watch at a rolex price from a street hustler in Manhattan.

                People like this guy are the poster child for women to reinforce crappy life decisions too. "What do you mean I can't see Chad? Katelyn goes off to see Brad Lightning for 2 weeks alone in Aruba but Mork the computer dork trusts her! You must be insecure!"

                But like I said, 9 times out of 10 it's the guy's fault for being dumb and naive enough to marry a manipulator like that. Or at least for letting himself get taken advantage of. He married her because "SHE'S HOT". Uhh well guess what, she's not going to keep up appearances for you buddy; not if you're going to lay yourself out like a doormat for her to walk all over. She doesn't need to go to her pilates yoga center for you, she's all ready got you around her finger. She does it FOR CHAD. (Also a good reason to be wary that your girl is probably cheating if she's hitting the gym hard, and not fucking you or giving you any respect).

                One of my old friends (who cheated on his last girl all the time) just recently discovered he was being cheated on. Despite the fact that I mentioned "Dude your girlfriend hangs out at the bar alone A LOT." "Yeah but I trust her". Who the fuck cares if you trust her. She should be smart enough to not project a shitty image of herself like that to you. She clearly doesn't give a fuck. Then he acts all heart-broken and surprised when he learns the truth and says "I'm done with women" and sulks in the corner with his liquor. Kid's probably gonna wind up being the puppet for a con artist at some point down the road he's such a naive loser.

                I honestly would pity him and try to give him advice, but when a mutual friend of ours tried to sleep with my last girlfriend. He sided with HIM and said that I needed to get over it. HAH! Well I'll remember that next time your slutty girlfriend grabs my butt when you're not looking dude. Sucks to suck.

                ALSO:

                Let's not trick ourselves into thinking other men aren't capable of this behavior too though. Other men still have potential to financially fuck you hard or play a game of chess with office politics. I feel like we turn a blind eye to manipulative men who want to fuck over their co-workers, family, friends, etc.. A LOT in TRP. Personally, I think it's best if we focus on how to keep ourselves protected from people like that ALONG with shitty quality women.

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                Women accept no responsibility for anything they do and its pointless to expect otherwise.

                Bingo. Through a lifetime of experiences, I've become convinced that 95% of women are biologically incapable of accepting responsibility for their own actions. It's like they have specifically evolved to pass the buck to somebody else; what's also fucked up is the fact that so many men constantly enable this behavior.

                [–]DMMDestroyer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                When I was cheated on by my ex (2 and a half years in) at first I tried to fix things and was going to break the face of the guy she slept with. Then I realized that I had no reason to, if anything, needed to thank him. A true loyal woman would tell a dude to "fuck off." I would know because my late wife did whenever she was approached. Loyal women will never cheat on you because it's completely against their nature. People who cheat are mentally unstable and can't even comprehend the damage of their actions.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                What does blue pill guys fails to understand is that there is no morals in this world. Things are not fair, it's not lala land, being nice doesn't exist. Even those guys wo are labelled nice guys are not nice (read no more mr nice guy, robert glover, to understand why).

                [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                I have a married friend who moved out of her Beta Hubbies home and in with her bad boy asshole fuck buddy. He is paranoid about her "cheating on him" and checks her social media constantly. He even put a GPS tracker in her car and recording devices in the house.

                For her part she simply cannot understand why her boyfriend doesn't trust her. LMFAO!! The Ho isn't even divorced and she has been fucking this guy for years...but she doesn't understand...she would NEVER cheat on asshole McBadboy don't you know.

                My wife even tries to play the sympathy card for her friend, "He is such an asshole for not trusting her." I cannot stop laughing. Girl hamsters are cute.

                [–]RemyPrice 45 points46 points  (26 children)

                Married chicks are fucking wonderful.

                They don't require as much care and watering. Send 'em back to daddy as soon as they get to be a handful. Opt out of birthdays and other holidays because they're busy, but still get the birthday sex the day after.

                And there's much less drama because they know you can gaslight them at any time if they don't mind their manners.

                [–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (16 children)

                Amen, they are fucking awesome. They lie to their husbands, bring you food, fuck like a storm. And will do things sexually with you they will never do with their husbands.

                [–]kalstate 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Yes, they fuck like rock stars, but they'll still cheat on you with that French guy in Miami. Took me a long time to like the French again..

                [–]rpscrote 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                just gotta brace your mind for impact. If shes cheating with you she'll cheat on you. Just accept itll happen and enjoy the time span between now and that inevitable date. And of course dont commit to be exclusive under any circumstances with em

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                  [–]enjoyit7 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  I find it so ironic that they are telling you that you are hurting this mans family. That woman doesnt care about him or their family at all. She's fucking you, chad the surfer across the country and god knows who else. Continue enjoying your self. Have a fun summer!

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I dont care what they think. I show the world the truth and hope some men can learn

                  [–]1DRMMR76 21 points22 points  (2 children)

                  Hey, do what you want. But if the husband finds out, cracks, and ends up putting a bullet in the back of your head some night when you're taking out the trash or getting off work, I would honestly laugh at you if I somehow knew about it.

                  As a cop I've seen that sort of thing happen on more occasions than I can count, though not always lethal. Guy finds out girl is cheating, fucks the other guy up somehow. All the lifting and squats in the world can't stop a bullet. And whenever I do find out the whole story, my sympathy for the "victim" dries up.

                  [–]1edwardhwhite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  God, the thing that freaked me out after I swallowed the pill was the married women. I was blown away by the hypergamy. Felt shitty and great for me at the same time.

                  [–]NotQuiteRedPill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Yes, sorry... that dude deserves it. He's a whiny bitch letting her do her nonsense and I agree with the getting rid of the bro-knighting fools. I did that once when I was about 19. I told a good friend how his LTR was fucking another one of my friends. All that happened was I became the bad guy and the "cuckold" friend shook the other guy's hand (though he claimed he didn't mean it).

                  If you can't rein your woman in, you don't deserve her.

                  [–]NightGod 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  This is my personal favorite is when they get mad at hubby for accusing them on cheating on them, but they name the wrong guy.
                  "You're cheating on me!!"
                  With who?!
                  "Steve!!"
                  Who the fuck do you think you are?! Accusing me of cheating on you with that worthless piece of trash. I wouldn't fuck him if he was the last man on Earth and humanity was literally going to die out if I didn't!!! (I'm just glad you didn't say Kevin, because then I would have had to actually lie about it)

                  [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                  First of all, I have a GPS tracker on my wife's phone, I know where she is at all times. She knows about it. I told her its for her protection. Every married man should have this - no exceptions.

                  Secondly, my wife doesn't go on "With the Girls" vacations. LOL the mere suggestion of such a thing would send off alarm bells so loud it would threaten the trust in our marriage. She knows better than to even hint at it - and even better yet she has no desire to do anything that would even hint at impropriety as her personal reputation is something she values. She has taken our son for a few days to see her parents and her sister on two separate occasions, but its normal for her to want to visit family and I don't always want to come with her. She got a little huffy when I chose to stay home and called me 5-10 times a day when she was away.

                  Lastly, if I ever had a reasonably credible suspicion that my wife was straying in the marriage, she knows I would divorce her 1 strike and you're out - do not pass go - do not collect $200 - stone cold without blinking. Plus, gaslighting and trickle truths don't work on me. As soon as I sniff even a hint of bullshit I call it out and refuse to accept it. I'm a man, you either respect me or you don't - and if you don't I don't give a flying fuck - fuck you there's the fucking door.

                  I've already told her I don't care if divorce puts me living in a fucking cardboard box (which it won't thanks to the change in FL laws) I give no fucks. I have certain expectations in marriage, which I don't believe to be unreasonable, that need to be met - if they are not met then I will hit the reset button and seek out my happiness elsewhere. Also, my wife knows even at 43 years old, even if I lived in a cardboard box I would still get pussy and it would 100% likely be younger and hotter than her. I'm an attractive charming man, since I was 13 years old getting girls to like me was like swimming to a duck.

                  Someone might read this and say Wow what a controlling prick, I feel sorry for his wife. Don't feel sorry for my wife. My being this way - being confident and in control of the family household and my and our situation - is a big part of what turns her on and why she stays interested. Fucking moronic half a fag dipshits like the dude who's wife OP is banging don't have a clue. If they acted like a man, then their wives would probably treat them like a man. But since they don't have a spine or a set of balls - they're cucked ass losers living in perpetual humiliation.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Agree with everything you say. Its the type of red pill common sense that isn't so common out in bluepill land

                  I am curious though....do you think your wife wouldn't stray?

                  [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Given the right conditions any woman is capable of straying. Its up to you to keep your own house in order and your home fires lit.

                  [–]idonthaveacoolname13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  lol fuck bitches get money

                  [–]monochrome_rainbow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  And so the husband's reward for his wife being "loyal" is her fucking other dudes. The rest of us can only be so lucky.

                  /s

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                  [–]naturalredpill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Abundance mentality, gentlemen. Married women are too much trouble unless you meet them at a bar and nothing better came along. And even then don't give them your last name.

                  [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

                  Basically another AWALT post which is more about chest thumping your cheap score than giving any depth of analysis. I don't see how this was upvoted so much.

                  [–]uxl 8 points9 points  (10 children)

                  Original comment I was replying to (he deleted it): "Posts like this make me sick. I lose so much faith in humanity. Fuck 'plating'. What a messed up world this is. I don't want to alpha or even be associated with the human race. To hell with this red pill bullshit. I only like the posts about self-help and self-improvement. Men of this world, don't let bad experiences with women turn you into monsters. Take the high road. Maybe you'll actually make the world a better place? Did you ever think that's worth a try?"

                  My reply:

                  RP is about being a better man. Some pseudo-RP men are insecure or cowardly enough to think that being a better man means fucking another man's wife and hiding it like the slut does. Real RP would mean exposing the cunt and advising the husband to move on. Being an alpha means always trying to be the better man; slinking about with another man's wife is not being the better man, it is being a weak coward. If you fuck a man's wife, next that bitch and expose her shame as a warning to your fellow men. You've done the husband the double-favor of (hopefully) forcing him into monk-mode and ridding him of the slimy, disgusting, douche-hole parasite that is leaching him of his time and money.

                  [–]Pornography_saves_li 7 points8 points  (5 children)

                  Sure. 'Make an example of her'. Then, get ready for the false accusations.

                  [–]-rubashov 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  RP is about being a better man Being an alpha means always trying to be the better man

                  TRP has nothing to do with morality. One mans morals are anothers sins.

                  [–]jons_throwaway 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                  I can completely agree with you.

                  Atleast RP is about being a better man for me. I have more respect and pride to fuck some other man's wife. I guess I should not expect the same.

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                  [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (25 children)

                  Your moral ideals are disconnected with reality and do your ability to interact with the world properly a disservice.

                  Please exit Disneyland and learn how the world actually works before projecting normative judgments everywhich direction.

                  [–]reddishman 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                  You are still living by the old set if books. This is why you can't comprehend what's happening and you feel like shit.

                  If you like by the new set of books you would think of this as every day boring shit that doesn't even need to be mentioned (level obvious). Life is better with the new set of books

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                  [–]TreePlusTree 17 points18 points  (5 children)

                  If you think it's immoral, you don't have to do it. Honestly, there's a pretty big split in the community on this very issue, and it makes some sense. On the one hand, fuckin a dudes wife is some shit. On the other hand, that's her responsibility, not yours.

                  The way I see it, and I apply this to alot of shit, if she doesn't care enough about him to not fuck another man, why should I care enough to not fuck an eager chick?

                  I mean, go ahead and turn her down if you want. Maybe she'll take your rejection to heart, maybe she'll learn basic human compassion, maybe she'll decide right then and there that cheating is wrong and she'll never do it again. But you got to admit, you're really hampering yourself based on a whole lot of maybes.

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                    [–]interestedplayer 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                    Wow I mean, I get it, there are many new guys. They are excited about this cool new swaggy subreddit they found and the advice helping them better their lives.

                    WHY THOUGH DO THEY FEEL THE NEED TO COMMENT AND VOTE?

                    WHY TRY TO BRING IN THE VERY BLUEPILL THINKING THAT THEY CAME HERE TO AVOID?

                    I say this as a personal appeal to every new person here: Just dont participate until you know what you are doing. Just profit. Isnt that a good deal?

                    Dont bring feminist judging and bluepill shaming into one of the few places where men can think freely...

                    [–]MagneticJohnson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I'm really curious to see the where society will go next. how many men will check out? how will women react? what happens to the economy? how will the government react?

                    take a seat and grab some popcorn.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    The sad part is she sees nothing wrong with how shes behaving. Thats the part about present day women in society that scares me the most, theyre not necessarily vindictive or even intentionally immoral, they honestly see nothing wrong in their actions.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    At 18 when I walked down a busy street and saw most housewives eye-fucking me next to their hubbies I instinctively knew "something was up".

                    Now I know.

                    [–]BrotherBloodAngel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    "This feels too good to me to give up so I can't possibly be doing something wrong. It's different." Hamster = drug addict logic

                    [–]slutnip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Water seeks its own level

                    The amount of married women that chase me would make most of the guys here jaws drop. Sleeping with a married woman wont make me happy and typically those women aren't happy/successful people in their own lives

                    Id rather stick my dick in a blender

                    [–]TempusRerumImperator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    To women, words are truly better than actions. I have girls say this shit all the time, even if i saw them do the opposite days ago. Its part of the lovely beast we call the hamster, and allows them to be truly free of responsibilities, and delude themselves, often in our favor. Hamstering is the only reason i get laid, truth be told.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    For those complaining about him "hurting" the family, she's the one that's cheating and she was already a shitty person for her to do that shit in the first place, and if it wasn't him she would be riding some other guy's cock.

                    The one to blame is the beta husband, he's the one that thought he could transform a slut into a lady.

                    [–]jewishclaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    About 75% of the taken girls i've fucked have mentioned in passing how loyal they are, with a completely straight face.

                    [–]2cold2hold2hot2handl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    This is why you can't trust a woman's "count" she doesn't count dicks she's sucked or fucked because "it doesn't count because I feel it shouldn't"

                    holy fuck how can a being exist in reality with such a disconnect from it? That's a fucking superpower!

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