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Men's RightsFemale chief of asylum housing in Sweden rapes 2 refugee boys and the word "rape" is not used once in the article (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by taracus

Translated version of article (try searching for the word rape or våldtäckt for the Swedish version): https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fekuriren.se%2Fnyheter%2Fsormland%2F1.4141846-har-har-chefen-for-boendet-sex-med-flyktingpojkar-hotade-att-fa-oss-utvisade-

Summary: Woman running an asylum center for refugees (which has been closed down since because of missing licenses) forces sex from 2 boys under the threats to deport them (which she obviously have no control over). The article doesnt use the word "rape" once.

Body:

The boys say they felt compelled to film the sex act. They did not dare do anything but obey because there was no one to help them.

I wonder if it would have been called "sex act" if the genders were reversed?

They are extremely embarrassed to tell you about the events. To have sexual intercourse outside of marriage in their home country Afghanistan is a sin and danger of death, they say.

Because if this was 2 girls who was raped we would discuss the shame of having sex outside of marriage in their home-country and not the fact that they got raped.

Omid and Tariq says that no one has listened to them, even though they have tried to tell both social services and the police. There was never anyone who had time to listen to what they wanted to tell. They can almost none Swedish and need an interpreter to make himself understood. In the end, they chose instead to go to the newspaper.

Again, I would like to see how newspapers would have treated the police/social service that didnt care that they were raped had they been girls...

At last on a funnier note the rapists hamster starts spinning when presented with the evidence:

If I would have had it with someone so well it is forbidden to film someone who has it in such cases? In order to blackmail this person? she says.

"Well if I am a rapist, it really not that bad because another minor filmed the act and he cant use that to blackmail me. I am the victim here for forcing a minor to film the rape of his friend."

Lessons learnt:

  • When the genders are reversed its called "sex-act culture" and not rape-culture
  • Women can rape
  • Read everything with a critical eye (including this subreddit)

Edit: The paper is a small local paper and I honestly dont know what political direction or opinions it usually have (to outsiders they might all look liberal left wing but we Swedes at least differentiate between our degrees of "left wing")


[–]tetroxid 144 points145 points  (77 children)

Fun fact: In Switzerland, the legal definition of rape is a penis entering a vagina without permission. So if a woman is forced to oral or anal sex, or a man for that matter, it's considered a severe case of sexual assault. Meaning a man cannot be raped in the legal sense, he can only be sexually assaulted.

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    [–]FortunateBum 27 points28 points  (3 children)

    Rape itself is a legal construction. We're getting into a world where people intuitively know what rape is and boy is it weird.

    I actually think for a woman that rape for her is whenever she feels she's not fairly compensated for sexual contact. That compensation could merely be friendship and it'll be different for every woman and act. This is why a woman can literally consent to a sex act but feel cheated and raped afterward. She doesn't feel adequately compensated.

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Compensation for sex... Yeah it's what they want. Hhmmm, I wonder what is called when the price is agreed upon up front.

    [–]MaxBrodin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    This is so true, and is the cause of "regret" after sex

    [–]u-r-silly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Retroactive Consent Withdrawal.

    [–]body_massage_ 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    I've been saying this shit the whole time. According to the law he isn't even a rapist. The semantics are necessary.

    [–]momomotorboat 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I think I'm with you. Hit me with why the semantics are necessary.

    [–]body_massage_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I think it's just necessary to draw the line at some point. We might all agree that fingering against a person's will should qualify as rape, and if we all do we change the law. The important thing is we maintain legal definitions of things, otherwise you'll start seeing women claiming an unwanted butt smack was rape.

    [–]redzorp 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Three days ago a couple of lesbo lawmakers just introduced a bill in California to redefine rape:

    Garcia and Assemblywoman Susan Eggman (D-Stockton) introduced Monday a last-minute bill to broaden the state's definition of rape as beyond "an act of sexual intercourse." That would include "penetration" of any kind without consent.

    The lawmakers said that the six-month jail sentence for Brock Turner, the former Stanford student found guilty in the attack , was limited because the assault did not fit the existing definition of rape.

    In a statement, Eggman called it an "archaic definition" that "finds any excuse to be lenient with rapists."

    Both women have been outspoken in recent days about the Stanford case, with Garcia signing on to political efforts to remove the Santa Clara County judge who handed down the sentence .

    [–]Sarcastic_Gadfly 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Wouldn't redefining rape be a good thing? Not necessarily how they want to define it but I seem to recall that one of the reasons male rapes are so under reported is because the definition of rape is defined as penile entry.

    [–]redzorp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It could be, especially for prison rape cases. But we all know the lesbo-feminists in charge will word it in such a way to mainly protect women, as the expense of male sexuality. And no matter how gender-neutral new laws are written, their application will be anything but.

    [–]APotter12 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

    I figured Eggman would be a member of The Tribe, but she's actually a "practicing Catholic."

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Bingo! However unpleasant you may find that distinction, it is there.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (13 children)

    So... youre telling me he got months of jail for a finger?

    [–]redzorp 12 points13 points  (12 children)

    Yes and that fingering was after the girl consented to make out with him and follow him outside to do the Shasty McNasty behind a dumpster. She apparently passed out during the fingering so now he is a sex offender for life!

    If I was still in college, I would stay the hell away from ALL college girls and would just bang pros on the side and also spend my spring breaks in Thailand or Amsterdam.

    [–]widec 9 points10 points  (4 children)

    If I was still in college, I would stay the hell away from ALL college girls and would just bang pros on the side and also spend my spring breaks in Thailand or Amsterdam.

    If you were in college, you wouldn't be able to afford any of that, unless you're a trust fund kid.

    [–]redzorp 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Each summer in college (way back when) I had engineering intern jobs. Paid just over minimum wage but gave me enough money during school to pay for this or that. Plus these days a smart kid could make some money online both during school and during breaks.

    But yeah, generally speaking might be tough to scrape up the $ for most kids.

    Fleshlights are still cheap.

    [–]widec 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I worked 20+ hours a week in college, definitely didn't make enough for escorts and tropical vacations. Spring break for me just meant I could work more hours. Worth it in the end, graduated with no debt and a car.

    [–]SunshineBlotters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Paid just over minimum wage but gave me enough money during school to pay for this or that.

    You are seriously underestimating how much college cost these days if you think a min wage summer job can do all that for you.

    [–]1mojo_juju 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah, it's some bunk advice.

    Live it up in college. Just don't be a dumb ass.

    [–]DrBillC0sby 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I can't find that information anywhere, care to site your source? I'd love to read it for the sake of hearing the other side of the story.

    [–]redzorp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    In the actual court documents and also from witness statements in various online articles. Court docs can be found here:

    http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2016/06/10/county-releases-brock-turner-court-documents

    [–]DrBillC0sby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you very much for taking the time to help me find this; I really appreciate it.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorHarleyWalker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I don't have a source but it was the defense used as far as I can recall. I never saw anything to the contrary, they had been hooking up consentually earlier (verifiable so) and it was the Swedish cucks who turned up when she was already out which was the only "damning" evidence but not evidence it hadn't been consensual prior to that.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorHarleyWalker 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Exactly. He probably deserved a slap on the wrist for being stupid but the hysteria over this case (and the subsequent silence from MRAs) was outstanding.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    It's because they finally got what they wanted. Media and the left have been waiting for years for a case of a white straight wealthy male to do this and now that it's happened they can make a big fuss. Yes he's an asshole who likely deserves some jail time but the national level outrage is completely ridiculous when far worse crimes happen every day

    The very fact that they got this incensed over a drunk fingering proves that true rape is not a problem in this country

    [–]Endorsed ContributorHarleyWalker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I know. They had finally found the straight white, rape culture advocating villain we've been hearing about for the last decade and boy was he a soft target.

    [–]tedted8888 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Isn't forced oral sex called sodomy? Like don't we already differiceiate this.

    [–]sedecim_02 14 points15 points  (11 children)

    That was why the director Roman Polanski who anally-raped a 13 year old girl in the seventies took refuge in Switzerland. Not so fun-fact he has won many awards for directing since and people such as Martin Scorsese signed a petition to get him pardoned.

    [–]1aguy01 1 point2 points  (10 children)

    What are the details of the story?

    [–]bornredd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    He took a 13 year old girl to Jack Nicholson's house, gave her drugs, and then anally raped her in the hot tub, iirc.

    The victim is now in her 50s or so and doesn't want to press charges because it's been 40 something years. He ran away to Europe so he wouldn't go to prison in the US.

    [–]FortunateBum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    There was a rumor going around Hollywood at the time that the girl was a prostitute being prostituted by her mother. Gore Vidal even wrote it in one of his famous essays. This rumor is pretty obscure and very few people will talk about it which is why, I think, that people in Hollywood have a completely different idea of what happened than people outside of Hollywood. The victim even came out some time ago in Polanski's defense.

    So what happened? The pimp/mom tried to get more than they agreed to? Honestly, I don't believe that.

    In a nutshell, this chick was "discovered" by Polanski (when "discovered" meant something and directors were all-powerful "auteurs"). Polanski wanted to take pictures of her for future reference. So far, so good. On day 1, normal pics. On day 2 Polanski asks the mother to leave them alone. So far, weird.

    Know too that Polanski is pretty famous for liking young girls. He's a tiny man and in Europe he was well documented for banging just-hitting-puberty models, which is actually very common in Europe. Rich, well-connected men banging 13-year-old models during Paris Fashion week was a normal, maybe even celebrated practice.

    Know too that Polanski's pregnant wife was just murdered by cultists so everyone felt sorry for him.

    Mom must've known that Polanski wanted to bang her mini-me. Why else let them be alone? Mom had some story that he wanted to be alone to get better pics. Sounds bullshit to me, but I have a bad habit of doubting human stupidity.

    Before he started in on the raping, he gave her some ludes. Here's the thing, from hearing numerous stories about this era, including Cosby and the Blackhearts, I know that giving a chick ludes was like foreplay. What did women of the era think? I still don't know. Did they know that taking the pill meant consent to fuck? The guys certainly did.

    The act wasn't long. Strangely, he went in vaginally and anally. I guess that's normal for some people I ascertain after watching porn and hearing about the mattress girl rape case.

    I'm having trouble remembering all the details, but I think the girl was upset when mom came to pick her up which is why the whole thing blew up.

    Yeah, it happened at Jack's house, but that has very little to do with anything as far as I can tell. Polanski didn't have a permanent address at the time.

    The weird thing about the story is that he was punished by a strange judge in a strange court. The details are long and boring. In brief, he was punished with a sort of counseling and served his time. Something happened, either the press or politics, can't remember, maybe both, and then they wanted Polanski to get another sentence. That's when Polanski refused and fled to Europe.

    If you look at this current case with the Stanford swimmer, there's similarities. Imagine if he got out and then the outrage forced him to another judge for another sentence. He might flee to another country while his lawyers tried to win an appeal which is what happened with Polanski. IIRC, Polanski's lawyers are still fighting the case.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 5 points6 points  (7 children)

    The details tell a very different story. Research it. tl:dr Famous director gets presented with young hottie by her mother. In those years of Quaaludes/cocaine and looser age moralities, famous guy stuffs it up her pooper. Word gets around, people freak, famous man flees to escape warped idea of justice. Read up on it.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Not to mention pedophilia is rampant in Hollywood to this day. He became a scape goat.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    Yup, although we are actually speaking of ephebophilia, and not pedophilia here. Humans are generally attracted sexually to females at puberty, for the obvious procreative reasons. It's our society that has restricted acceptable access to older ages. It doesn't stop human nature though.

    [–]Theophagist 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    It's important not to forget the female nature. They naturally become lascivious and solicitous when faced with the force of powerful masculine energy. She probably would have let him stick anything in anything and done it with a smile.

    Doesn't excuse him for doing it though.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Oops, my reply was regarding the Stanford affair, not the Polanski affair...same thing though. Mr. Polanski did not grab a 13 year old girl off the street, drag her into an abandoned building, and forcibly rape her ass. The media was in a frenzy and wanted him in prison for decades as though he had. Perhaps the girls mother should've been punished for essentially pimping her daughter out. Anyway, lively discussion!

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Indeed, hence my comment on "permission" being the operative concept here. Giving permission to access the female body is of course the domain and right of the female in question. Personally, I can't imagine the "turn on" of doing anything with a passed out person other than calling for help and seeing that they get it, but jail time and social ruin should not be handed out easily. Obviously I will get flack for my opinions and I won't be posting them on FB in this lifetime, but women need to get their heads on straight regarding dress codes substance abuse and personal safety. I am a "white" male and technically it is my legal right to march down a predominately "black" neighborhood yelling out "All N****** should be lynched!". Should I expect to get my ass kicked? Absolutely. Should I be able to ask for legal redress if someone runs out and fingers my ass? I suppose. Should they go to jail for 6 months and be publically shamed for decades? Um...no.

    [–]kinpsychosis 6 points7 points  (8 children)

    But can't a women get a man hard and then forcefully enter the penis inside the vagina?

    [–]evileddy 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    There's a case where a man passed out and a woman rode him, got pregnant and he was on the hook for child support.

    [–]kinpsychosis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I understand and know that quite often men are treated differently compared to women, I was wondering about the definition though and if the definition is treated fairly than a women could still technically rape a man.

    But still, the extent at which men are treated differently in the same light is shameful.

    [–]ezone2kil 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    You know the man will be the one charged then.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Yes, and they do. Vaginas also get "wet" during "rapes". The body does what it can to make more humans.

    [–]Freiling 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Happened to me. Passed out drunk, but for some reason Whiskey Dick took a day off... great timing.

    [–]body_massage_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I have schrödingers whiskey dick. Half the time it works way too good, half the time not at all. I never know till I try.

    [–]Theophagist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    When a Russian female krav maga expert subdued a robber in her salon she tied him up and put him in a closet. And when she wanted to rape him over the several days she kept him she tied a rope around his penis to keep him hard enough.

    [–]RealGucciSosa 15 points16 points  (6 children)

    Meaning a man cannot be raped in the legal sense, he can only be sexually assaulted.

    I believe the US federal government defines "rape" the same way. Male rape is considered sexual assault.

    [–]WAFC 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Until two years ago, you were correct:

    As approved, the (ed: FBI) UCR Program's definition of rape is “Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.

    [–]JackGetsIt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    This definition still wouldn't cover a women forcing herself onto a man.

    [–]vezokpiraka 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Do they carry different sentences? If they don't, then it's just shitty bullshit vocabulary and isn't a really big problem. If they do, then it's plain stupid and the lawmakers should change the definition of rape. Any unwanted sexual assault should be labelled as rape.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Or better yet, toss the word rape and keep the more accurate wording "sexual assault".

    [–]ovrsurge 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    This makes me so glad I live in Australia where the definition of rape is so broad as to include unwanted fingering in any orifice. However on the flip side any gender requirements were removed meaning that anally fingering a man could be counted as rape.

    Which system is better though?

    [–]1Entropy-7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    There was a case not too long ago where a guy put his dick in a passed-out-drunk girl's mouth. The prosecutors wanted him to do hard time so they charged him with "forced sex" rather than "unlawful touching". The court ended up throwing out the charge and the guy walked because the definition of "forced" didn't include the situation where the person was unconscious. They over-reached, they lost, and now everyone is having a shit hemorrhage.

    [–]Prophets_Prey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well thankfully the law here in NSW, Australia, abolished the common law concept of "rape" and replaced it with "sexual assault". The purpose of which was to make the law gender neutral and applicable to both males and females.

    [–]nuesuh -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

    I'll keep that in mind next time I'm in Switzerland, is bored and feel like rolling the dice on some forced intercourse >_>

    The laws are so weird.

    [–]DrScientist812 79 points80 points  (26 children)

    Funny how Sweden will change the definition to rape to include many innocuous things but when it happens to a dirty male all their carefully-constructed feminist webs come tumbling down and we see them for the misandrists they really are.

    To think these people used to be vikings...

    [–]Kogster 9 points10 points  (5 children)

    Legally in Sweden a male can't really be raped. The equivalent crime for female on male translates to sexual exploitation and has the same legal significance.

    [–]taracus[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    They were minors (officially) meaning depending on the severity of the crime it can very much be considered rape (Våldtäckt mot barn) independent of the gender of the victim.

    [–]WAFC 7 points8 points  (3 children)

    But not the same emotional charge. This is how you brainwash people. There is no reason to have a separate term for when men are raped except to downplay how often men are raped so you can focus on women again.

    [–]Kogster 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Different languages are different.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    But feminist agenda crosses all borders...at least tries to.

    [–]killcat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Same here the legal definition of rape excludes men, it's only sexual assault, same reason, rape is a powerful term and is reserved for women.

    [–]Gumpool 27 points28 points  (17 children)

    Swedish people have never been vikings they have always been a bunch of self hating marxist cucks

    [–]chinawinsworlds 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    Us Norwegians are the proper vikings, no doubt. Way better politics here, than in cuckistan.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    To think these people used to be vikings...raping and pillaging!

    [–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (8 children)

    Sorry for grammar/spelling error on phone

    My mom had this one friend called abdul. Abdul was a nice dude From canada. He met this single mom. They got engaged. It took abdul 2 years for immigration to get him and his wife to America. Once the wife got to America she called the cops and told her child to say he raped me. The police locked up abdul and he's in jail for life. Turns out the single mom had a baby daddy waiting for her in america.

    Woman are evil, that's why it says in any religion more women are going to hell than men.

    [–]taracus[S] 16 points17 points  (5 children)

    that's why it says in any religion more women are going to hell than men.

    To be honest, I would have to chalk this one up to most religions being written and created by men, not saying maybe more women are going to hell by the definitions of some religions.

    [–]Theophagist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    6 of one, half dozen of other. It is acknowledged by men in these books that women use a level of ruthless subversion that defies all sense of honor in warfare as practiced and expected by warrior cultures.

    In a combat "turkey shoot" the soldiers start aiming high and killing less. I promise you a platoon of women would execute every enemy like Rome on Carthage.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    This is the ultimate red-pill. Realising that religion is a "divine" tool to keep women in check, since the idea of a omniscient being is so terrifying to women. They will take their lies to their grave.

    [–]snorted_the_red_pill 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Let's be honest here, religion is really a tool to keep ALL people in check, not just women.

    It's quite the power structure.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    On a hierarchy-level sure, its to keep men in check, but on a social level?

    Women lie alot, to their husband, to their parents. They are such convincing liars that we believe them most of the time.

    But if you raise them believing that a deity is watching their every move, they will think twice before doing the misdeed.

    Lastly the story of Adam and Eve is very symbolic in my personal opinion as an atheist.

    [–]gprime312 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Dude, I fucking get religion now.

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 30 points31 points  (28 children)

    Recently in the news a man was touching a girl who was intoxicated. Touching only. Widely reported as sexual assault and rape.

    Now we have women forcing sex on men. And it's not rape.

    But also, Sweden.

    [–]afkb39sdfb 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Don't worry, Sweden is the snake that is eating it's own tail.

    ‘Sweden Will Become a Third World Country by 2030’ – UN

    [–]OhwhatupCarlandJonny 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    The report is wrong so far. They claimed by 2015 Sweden would fall from 15 to 25. The 2014 numbers show that they've actually moved up a spot in the rankings

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Is that because Sweden is improving or because the rest of the first world is falling? I'm guessing the latter. Socialism is consuming the free world.

    [–]OhwhatupCarlandJonny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Actually Sweden was ranked 9th in 2010; the article /u/afkb39sdfb provided was where I got the 15 ranking that year. Sweden's HDI value was .885 in 2010, and in 2014 it was .907.

    Based on the data I provided, Sweden actually did drop a few spots in the ranking. This wasn't due to a decline in their HDI though. Other countries just saw more improvement over the last 5 years.

    TL;DR: Sweden saw an increase in HDI value over the last 5 years, but many other countries saw a greater increase

    [–]1mojo_juju 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sweden is mentioned 2 times in the report. -- use Ctrl-F

    Neither times is it associated with anything mentioned in the article you posted, such as 3rd world status=.

    [–]Freiling 0 points1 point  (22 children)

    Which case are you talking about?

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (16 children)

    Our boy Brock. Getting prison for fingering. That's the part nobody mentions.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    Wait...did I miss something? Did he never shove his cock up her? EDIT: Holy shit...I just dug in and found the details. So this guy finds a passed out girl, shoves his fingers up her vagina, gets caught, has his face and name plastered all over the world and gets 6 months in jail. Um...I'd say that's about enough punishment...and the judge? I'd say he called that one pretty well. Once again, if the genders were reversed, it would never have hit the media at all. Can you imagine the public outcry if a college frat boi passed out drunk and some girl found him, stuck her fingers up his ass, got caught, got arrested, and then got her face and name plastered worldwide and 6 months in jail? Nope, neither can I. It would NEVER happen. Fucking bullshit is fucking bullshit.

    [–]redzorp 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    No!!! That is not what happened at all!

    The court papers are available online. I read them:

    http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2016/06/10/county-releases-brock-turner-court-documents

    Brock didn't just stumble upon an unconscious girl and decide to finger her. They were both making out at a frat party. Everything was consensual, including the girl following him outside to make out behind a dumpster. Then she passes out during the make-out session and two white knights passing by decide to attack Brock.

    Nobody has any idea how long the girl was even out during the sexual activity. Could have been seconds. Could have been minutes.

    Police are called. Girl taken to hospital where she wakes up. They insist to test her with a rape kit. Girl is now between a rock and a hard place because SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND. Oh well, better to just call this rape and save her reputation...

    Furthermore, the girl admitted having a habit of partying at frats, making out with jocks AND PASSING OUT multiple times but always remembering everything and gathering herself together. But this time she could not (conveniently) remember details (because boyfriend, reputation) and therefore RAPE.

    Originally the girl even told police, and I quote: "I don't want him [Brock Turner] to rot away in jail; he doesn't need to be behind bars." But once the legal and publicity juggernaut got rolling, her lawyers got her to do a complete 180 on that!

    The judge and probation officer (female) in the case both saw through all this nonsense and insisted Brock did nothing serious. The media hysteria, on the other hand, wants us to think the opposite. After the UVA and mattress girl hoaxes, they need their pound of flesh!

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Jesus...poor guy. I had no idea. I may actually have to step up and post that link in response to the SJW rants on FB. It's sickening what these people are doing.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Many thanks for the information.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Ding ding ding.

    They wanted to give him life. The pitchforks are out to make him the scape goat for college rape.

    Edit: not to mention there's no accountability for her being a passed out jackass on the street, only for his drunkenness.

    [–]taracus[S] 5 points6 points  (9 children)

    If you were unconscious and you woke up to a strange man having a couple of fingers in your anus, do you think that person deserves to walk away without a prison-sentence?

    [–]redzorp 5 points6 points  (5 children)

    That is a false anal-ogy.

    In the Brock case the girl consented to everything, even going outside with him to do it behind a dumpster. She passed out during the make-out session. He insists he fingered her with her consent. She doesn't remember a thing.

    Bottom line, she consented to make out with him at the frat party and consented to go with him outside for more action. In your hypothetical scenario, you have some guy waking up to a complete stranger fingering the unconscious guy's anus. No consent anywhere. In your case, yes that fingerer should go to jail. Apples and oranges.

    [–]taracus[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    In your hypothetical scenario, you have some guy waking up to a complete stranger fingering the unconscious guy's anus.

    Haha, this is honestly how I understood it went down, didnt realize they made out, walked out together, etc.

    The fact that he runs off is a sign that he was aware of what he was doing though.

    Still I read his parents letters to the judge and couldnt fathom how they had the stomach to say things like that, but the fact that they were already making out etc makes me see how they must feel his life got fucked up bad for something relatively small.

    [–]redzorp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    He ran off because two white knights literally attacked him, one getting him in a headlock. So he runs like a scared young kid. That does not necessarily indicate a guilty conscious. Remember too that he was dead drunk (as was the girl) and was not in the best frame of mind.

    Of course the elephant in the room is that both Brock AND the girl were drunk. So neither could consent to any sexual activity by law. But, as we know here on TRP, only the man ever gets charged in these cases.

    The whole thing is just stupid and tragic. A young man's life totally destroyed over literally nothing. Absolutely nothing.

    For all you college guys, I know it's hard but stay the hell away from college sluts, especially if they have imbibed even a thimble full of alcohol. It's like sticking your dick in an electric socket and just hoping somebody switched off the breaker. Ain't worth it.

    [–]etherael 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    ... What in the actual fuck? Is this for real? That's all that happened? The media blitz is as if the guy was performing satanic ritual abuse and filming it to spread around online and was caught red handed and tried steadfastly to dodge any responsibility for his evil heathen demonology ceremony.

    And you're telling me it's two fucking drunk kids that went outside to fool around, one passed out, and doesn't remember anything?

    That can't be fucking right, the world is insane, but not THAT insane, surely...

    Please tell me this is not true?

    [–]redzorp 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    It's true. Read the court papers. They are available online.

    The world is completely and utterly insane. This is case is just one tiny example.

    [–]etherael 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah I just looked into it. Seems this is the closest thing to the truth actually available. Granted it still might not be the whole truth but that everything that came from this is all emerging from such a set of facts is utterly mind blowing.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Nope, I'd call it sexual assault. ;-)

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well, actually I'd say a good asswhooping would be about right. Done and done. Six months in jail and societal outcasting for a decade? Ooof, I'd say that's harsh. IMHO

    [–]blue_27 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Depends on if he was white or black.

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      [–]Freiling 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      "touching a girl who was intoxicated" really doesn't do it justice. To me, what he did was unequivocally rape.

      [–]EgoandDesire 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      It was sexual assualt and all the actual officials involved in the case agree. Even the female probation officer said it wasnt serious enough to be considered rape.

      [–]Freiling -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      I guess the distinction is new to me. Prison-worthy, though? Yes.

      [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      In our social reality, the term and crime of "rape" only applies to females. Since sexual selection is their only real power in life, a forced sexual act removes all her personal power and autonomy and they are emotionally devastated. Especially lately with date rape drugs etc, often there is no physical damage and often the victim doesn't even remember the act and yet they still scream for harsh and extreme punishment. I am not saying that any physical transgression from one human to another is excusable, I am simply pointing out what is happening in our society. If we were to assign an eye for an eye punishment, say, the perp has to be drugged and assfucked in public, females would cry that that's not enough, that that's not the same, etc. Sex is different for males and females and it's time we stopped pretending it isn't. I, as a man, do not wish to be ass raped under any conditions. However, if it were to happen, my life would not be ruined. I do not base my existence on access to my asshole. Women on the other hand, that's all they have to bargain with.

      [–]taracus[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      I dont think medias perpetual talk about "rape culture" or trying to put the blame on men as a gender is a good idea for society nor for stopping women from getting raped.

      With that said I find it naive for you to say you know how your life would or would not be affected with being ass-raped. Plenty of stronger, smarter, "more alpha" men have had their psychs destroyed from being raped by other men.

      [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      You're entitled to your opinion. Personally, I have not been ass-raped. I have however, been assaulted, had my ass kicked (kicked ass too), been to prison, dealt with addiction, had a handful of crushing emotional blows in my life, children kidnapped, never to appear again, had my home burned to the ground twice...in short, I am no stranger to psychic damage. As a strong, smart, moderately alpha man, I shed tears, get up, dust off, and move on. Nothing can "destroy" me except myself. Obviously YMMV.

      [–]taracus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      "Boys are born, men are made"

      Good luck on your future travels

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      It ain't rape if you're a male. They probably enjoyed it anyways.

      /s

      [–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 12 points13 points  (3 children)

      The article doesnt once use the word "rape" once.

      "Women are innocent and can do no harm." - as long as this mentality is accepted by men (who constitute majority of legislative and judicial system) - that kind of unimaginable_if_reversed_genders stuff will happen and be unpunished. That's one reason.

      Another one is - Swedes, in general, shot themselves in the foot by allowing that much PC, "equality" and "social justice" to take hold their mentality. Some SJW retard MAN got raped by another MAN and he didn't reported it b/c "the perpetrator might get deported".

      [–]taracus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Well to be honest at the moment we have anti-islam party as our third biggest party (actually declining right now though), which to me is a direct response to the PC environment in media in general.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Good, now you only need to endure long enough for the general population to get really disillusioned with PC and emigration.

      [–]snorted_the_red_pill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Stockholm Syndrome much?

      i'm sorry

      [–]Ochreata 11 points12 points  (4 children)

      When the genders are reversed its called "sex-act culture" and not rape-culture

      Not sure about Sweden, but in most places that would be legally correct. Rape has been legally defined, rightly or wrongly, as penetration without consent. Unless she stuck a finger in their butts she "legally" didn't rape them. The newspapers etc are not wrong in use of the wording, the legal definition is wrong.

      [–]taracus[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      In Sweden any sexual act with a minor is considered rape (they are portrayed as minor when the incident occurred but doesnt say anything about their age)

      EDIT: Apparently there are two degrees , one called sexually exploitation of kids and another called Rape of kids, the former being a lesser charge, which is what the police is doing the investigation under at the moment (but could change in the future).

      [–]Ochreata 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks for clarifying that.

      [–]dat_mean_no_work 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      She penetrated herself without the consent of the boys. Isn't that penetration without consent?

      [–]Ochreata -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Not that I personally don't agree with you, it's just how the laws are written. As another poster mentioned though, seems it is rape in Sweden at least.

      [–]MrRoxo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      This is why i hate western culture. It's too feminist. Say what you will but most asian and muslim culture are not like this shit. It's disgusting to say the least.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Never been to Asia, but Muslim culture is far beyond fucked.

      [–]IAManti_abortionAMA 7 points8 points  (5 children)

      Is there a picture of the woman? Why did she need to make them fuck her.

      [–]taracus[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      According to the boys also have other people in the woman come close to the boys and wanted to have sex.

      To be honest I dont see how her looks would affect the fact that she had sex with minors and the fact that she tried to "pimp" them out to her friends makes me think they are very much victims of sexual abuse...

      [–]IAManti_abortionAMA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Now we're beginning to see behind the feminist's curtain

      Worst part, they see themselves as moral

      [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Might have to do with the fact that Islam prohibits premarital sex.

      [–]Steve_Wiener 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      If a guy did it, they would have posted his name, face, address, shoe size, email address and social security number

      [–]ChadThundercockII 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      This certainly won't get reported because the perpetrator is a woman and the victims are Muslim. The narrative says Muslims do the raping, not vice-versa.

      The global narrative is well crafted.

      [–]afkb39sdfb 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I think the narrative says Muslim refugees are wonderful people who can do no wrong. It likely won't recieve a lot of attention because it is a political correctness nightmare. Anti-woman or Islamicphobic, that's why no one will touch it.

      [–]DDOS_Feeler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's not about refugees or their country or their religion, it's just that they are bad individuals who does those unmanly acts. Don't forget to think that before blaming and calling names to the whole community.

      [–]taracus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Well its already reported to the police (they actually told an employee at the next housing-center who decided to report it to the police as they state themselves they tried telling the police but said no one wanted to listen).

      [–]AzzyMcGee 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      I'm not too invested. But I do want to bring up the pool incident with that boy and the refugee. I'm pretty sure he was raped (forcibly anally penetrated by penis) and many (most) news outlets were calling the incident a "sexual assault" and not a rape.

      [–]taracus[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      A link or way to find the story would have been appreciated

      [–]AzzyMcGee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It was big news for a while, second to the new years sex attacks. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/iraqi-refugee-who-raped-10-year-old-boy-at-swimming-pool-in-austria-jailed-for-six-years-a7083931.html

      Looks like the bastard is finally getting time and they're finally calling it a rape.

      [–]BuckStricklandx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Even the fucking social workers in Sweden are rapists man.

      [–]powerwinch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I visited sweden in 2009 and it's always been like this. Women running around doing whatever the shit they want and pussified beta men applauding it

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Somehow rape is only damaging when your a privileged white college-aged girl. This shit happens all the time, yet no victims can speak about it because the media simply doesn't want to hear about it.

      Men that are raped suffer in the silence of emasculation. Women wear it as a fucking badge of honor for attention.

      [–]5kevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'm tired of reading this double-standard fucking bullshit that continues to occur in our corrupt society. Since when are men or rather boys in this case not able to feel emotions of disgust and discomfort. The western society isnt the only side of the hemisphere thats being fucked over based on this retarted Swedish hamster spin. Been reading for over a year and the anger phase is being provoked once again.

      [–]Brewjo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      A little skeptical of the story.

      Do these 'boys' even have ID to prove they are minors.

      Isn't it more comman to hold women accountable for these temptations outside of wedlock, even if there is raped inolved...

      [–]taracus[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It's not the story itself that is post-worthy but the fact that if the genders were reversed nobody would question their age, no one would question the shame from their own culture, we would have treated them like rape-victims, but since the victims are male, media almost doesnt see it as news-worthy.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I feel sorry for the boys. Thats the ugly thing about the entire "rape-culture"-debate. Real rape is ugly. Its revolting. Its about having your most private parts violated. Thats rape. Regardless of sex (gender).

      Being forced to fuck a shorthaired menopausal Swedish she-viking is not something I would consider anything less than at least sexual coersion.

      [–]momomotorboat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Maybe the translation isn't expressing the tone of the author. If there's anyone who can read the original - is the article sympathetic to the boys or no?

      [–]taracus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Efter det skedde det som pojkarna berättar är ofrivilliga samlag. Dessa samlag ska ha föregåtts av både löften och hot. Löften om bland annat kläder och hygienartiklar. Hot om att kvinnan skulle vända sig till Migrationsverket om de inte gjorde henne till viljes.

      "After that happened, what the boys explains, involuntarily intercourse. These intercourse's are to have been preceeded by both promises and threats. Promises of clothes and hygiene articles and threats of reporting them to "Migrationsverket" unless they did as she wanted"

      They are minors and she somehow feels the need to point out that they are claiming it was involuntarily. Imagine media writing the same way about a 14 year old girl having gone through the same thing with a 50 year old man.

      [–]momomotorboat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks for that. Yeah, the writer knows damn well what the social values are, and knows that, when it's boys, you have to spell out to people that there is something wrong afoot.

      On the other hand, if it were girls, there would be no need to do that.

      [–]Mr_Again 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Is it really sensible to post a machine translated article and complain that it doesn't have correct English words in it? Perhaps it would be more sensible to look up the Swedish word/phrase for rape and scan the original article for that. Things get lost in translation you know.

      [–]DDOS_Feeler 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Very well shit. This is why I come to redpill so often. I'm wondering if women in Europe were treated like they are being treated in Islam. It would be great huh..

      Also, I wonder why these women had kinks to record the video of the "sex-act" with small kids that are refugees while across Germany those jerks are making tutorial videos to teach refugee men on how to treat German women. Danish woman also got gang banged in India last week and it did kinda make a hype.

      Did those swedes women actually enjoyed it?

      [–]taracus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      In her own words: "When you miss me you can watch the video"

      [–]SW9876 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      When the genders are reversed, nobody even cares because they're Muslim. Rape is the norm in Sweden.

      [–]1ShallITinder 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I wonder how this will affect the red pill responses. On one hand we do support men in these cases but on the other, with the white nationalist wave on the board, the sub supposedly hates those darker skinned individuals being in Europe.

      [–]taracus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      For someone that posts a lot about Sweden, the muslim/cuck responses to this post have actually been minority believe it or not.

      [–]ItsCold_ItsCold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Women love them some outgroup invader cock.

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      [–]taracus[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      They are called "boys" in the article so its implied they were minors, but I doubt they arrived in Sweden with photo-IDs including date of births.

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      [–]Killabot 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      It's British English but yeah it doesn't really flow as well as "learned" here.

      [–]IAManti_abortionAMA -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      I thought learnt was like an adjective and learned is past tense verb.

      Breathing is a learnt skill

      He learned to breathe in grad school.

      [–]WAFC -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      They're interchangeable on this side of the Atlantic.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      What exactly does this have to do with TRP and making yourself better and succeeding better with women? We're all aware of the double standards. The mens' rights stuff is a separate sub.

      [–]taracus[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      There is a flair for "Mens Right" so I guess that's why

      [–]prodigy2throw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Wasn't rape if she was hot.

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      [–]afkb39sdfb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      "All men are rapists"

      Is that true? Let's be above the feminist/SJW tactics and methods. Let's not make sweeping statements about a whole group of people.

      [–]dev_mode -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

      I think you posting on the wrong subreddit. This is not the trump jerkathoncuckular... then again you all the same.

      [–]taracus[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Not sure why I came off as a Trump-supporter for pointing out that had the genders been reverse there would be no question about what sort of crime this was nor would it have been allowed to be ignored by the police and social services.

      As Ive stated in other posts Im not American and I honestly dont care (nor believe that its going to make a big difference) who wins the American president election.

      Do you have any actual criticism or suggestions regarding my post?

      [–]_Trigglypuff_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      Sweden is always an interesting liberal social experiment to observe.

      [–]LessASnowmanThanAGod -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

      I'm disinclined to use the term of "rape" so broadly myself. As far as I'm concerned rape is the physical overpowering of someone in order to penetrate them. It could very well be argued that the threat of deportation was a threat of government violence, but it's just that - a threat. The SJWs want to broaden the terms of "sexual assault" and "rape" to be easily accessible when they want to tar and feather someone they don't like; TRP shouldn't help them.

      [–]taracus[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Threatening someone with sending them back to death and torture (and for all reasons and purposes we have to assume the boys actually believed her) is just as bad as putting a gun to someones head.

      It becomes very weird trying to say that the definition of rape should be decided by to what degree the victim fought back...

      [–]LessASnowmanThanAGod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I think you're going a bit down the garden path. Who says they were facing torture? The spectre of becoming a solider in a war-torn country, sure, but there doesn't seem to be any indication in the article that they were facing certain death. Immediacy, nature, and the scale of the threat I think are lacking here. Someone being threatened with rape by a powerful man is not only facing sexual violence, they are facing the very real concern that they might be murdered in short order; it would be an extraordinarily traumatic event. These guys were blackmailed into a sexual act, but I doubt these guys will be having flashbacks for the rest of their life or severe intimacy problems with women down the road.

      [–]fakenate1 -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

      You don't think that google translate did a poor job of the translation?

      Like... I can say: it was a page right out of Mary Kay Letourno's play book. You know it rape and I know that's rape... But google translate wouldn't understand the cultural reference.

      [–]taracus[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      Im Swedish and though the grammar might get mixed up there is no mention of the Swedish word for rape (våldtäckt) in the Swedish version neither.

      [–]afkb39sdfb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      As a Swede on this sub who obviously hasn't bought into the liberal narrative pushed on your country (and the EU). I am genuinely curious on your opinion on this:

      https://anongalactic.com/sweden-will-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-un/

      Better yet, I think it would warrant it's own post. Sweden comes up a lot on this sub. It would be in interesting discussion.

      [–]taracus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Im not an economic nor have I lived in Swede for the last 4 years but I found the statement that we would turn into a 3rd world country in 15 years preposterous.

      So much from our BNP comes from the tech and fasion industry which I have a hard time seeing would just crash and burn because of a sudden influx of refugees.

      Then again, there are probably better places/people to ask about the socio-economic future of Sweden than me.