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Building PowerOn Freedom of Speech (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Modredpillschool

Recently reddit's admin made another blindly stupid decision to piss off their userbase with little to no actual payoff to the company, which they have yet to figure out how to properly monetize so they're experimenting with simply alienating the userbase by banning numerous subreddits absent any justification or understandable policy.

During times like this I tend to get a lot of requests for help with projects to protect free speech or archiving subreddits that believe they may be on the future receiving end of trouble.

Many here will note that years ago I foresaw a possible shuttering of our discussion and undertook measures I believed to be prudent to prevent a complete loss if the SJW crowd was able to finally try to wipe us out.

I designed software dedicated to archiving our subreddits' most popular posts, identify reddit users on a secondary forum (https://forums.red) where we could verify our identities in case of emergency, and a micro-blogging / full blogging platform that gave us some breathing room outside of reddit (https://trp.red).

It's funny that we were the big bad guy not too many years ago, users begged for us to be silenced. But now are being approached by people whose speech you wouldn't consider to be controversial now asking us for help in protecting their freedom of speech.

In the spirit of freedom and the free dissemination of information I have always had a soft spot for groups and people I've believed are at risk for censorship.

I'm reminded of the old quote "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist... "

So, I am posting this here for anybody who may be involved in these groups. Get in touch with me if you think you've got an idea or need help with an idea that you believe will combat censorship. I have a lot of resources that may be of use. In some cases (not guaranteed) I have been and am willing to offer web hosting, software tools / development, or other useful things. Get in touch with me and we can work something out.

I believe the community is strongest when we have a network to build our own power. This begins with ensuring we have freedom of speech.

I have a little experience in this arena. I am a master shitlord after all.


[–]exaltedviews 308 points309 points  (52 children)

Long gone are the days when liberals believed:

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It

And we're left in a sadder world because of it.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 148 points149 points  (28 children)

Everyone is principled when they are the opposition party. If you truly want to test someone's character, give them power.

[–]MarmorEtSculptura 60 points61 points  (23 children)

It's not just when their party is in power. It's always. Look at the Harvard (Stanford?) prisoner studies. Look at what happens when anyone gets any amount of power.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is very true and a great example.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (11 children)

Those studies basically can never be discussed in decent company/polite society — for the glue of society is its real nature to be left unsaid and (consciously) unknown. Great studies though (same about the Zimbardo experiment on conformism) but they were never repeated, for the very reason no-one can stand the truth.

[–]MarmorEtSculptura 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I'll have to look into the zimbardo experiment. Have you ever heard of the electro shock experiment? I'm reading back to my undergrad years to remember it but essentially you can convince someone to electrocute someone if you're am authority figure

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The Milgram experiment. That was a pretty interesting one. All of the "teachers" in the experiment expressed concern that they were hurting the "learners", but they all let it go when they were told that they wouldn't be held responsible for it.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v 2 points3 points  (0 children)

for the glue of society is its real nature to be left unsaid and (consciously) unknown. Great studies though (same about the Zimbardo experiment on conformism) but they were never repeated, for the very reason no-one can stand the truth.

The glue of society... is a lie. Its the lie told by our governments, our leaders, our churches, our teachers... to keep us all in order and to just get us to comply with "their rules".

The Milgram experiment proved this case, that most people do not really have "the choice" to be moral or ethical. They will just comply, even of they feel bad about it.

Most people will just do what is told (or asked) of them. The lie, is that most had a choice.

These are the same people that will hold hands and all sing kumbaya when the fabric of their society comes crashing around them.

Most people who are truly RedPill will not suffer this fate, as they can see the forest through the trees. They know what is coming, and can best prepare for it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't remember the authors, but I remember the "give somebody a shock" experiment quite well.

Note, also, how people who look at the thing from a position of detachment "outside the experiment" unfailingly feel sure they would "not be like that". That's the gap between self-image and real identity.

This, fortunately usually well alseep in the backdrop of the mind, side of human nature is why democracy is never safe. Just have a party extend up to, say, the 80% of consensus, and invariably they'll try to suppress (even physically) the other 20%, no matter the object of disagreement. Words, ideas and "ideals" will be used as rationalizing tools for the "destroy the other tribe" to play out.

Evolutionary baggage we'd probably be better off without at this point in history.

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel 4 points5 points  (5 children)

The Zimbardo study has never been repeated because it's unethical as fuck

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Zimbardo study

Why do you feel the prison experiment was unethical?

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Because the people in the 'prisoner' roles were emotionally traumatized from it. One guy had a nervous breakdown on the second day of the experiment. The whole thing was supposed to last 3 weeks, it only lasted 6 days.

The fact that it was unethical doesn't mean it's a less accurate representation of the human condition, but it does take away some of it's validity.

[–]2Archterus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the possibility of trauma being suffered had no previous precedent then I do not see how it was unethical. Even if it was, and assuming the stat analysis was rigorous, that in no way detracts from it validity about what can be concluded about human behaviour. Trying to repeat it, given that knowledge now, may constitute an ethical problem. However the two concepts are distinct.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

what is this, sugar blue pill?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the red pill is hard to swallow. Only the truly brave and strong can handle it.

[–]Atavisionary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what you are looking for are the asch experiments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments

Bonus: mouse utopia http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/42/wiles.php

[–]RemainingAnonymoose 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And now neither party is principled, because their opposition is the American people.

[–]2CasaDeFranco 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." John Dalberg-Acton, 1st Baron Acton

[–]BurnDownTheMission68 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Cliche alert!

Am I back 30 years ago in high school?

[–]suburban-bad-boy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are right. You made me think.

[–]2comment 7 points8 points  (3 children)

This is classic liberalism. Those were enlightenment views of John Lock who influenced many of the Founding Fathers and idealized individual liberty. Equality before the law did not mean equality of outcomes.

Today's "progressive" liberalism is of the Marxist and collective bent, which in most ways is the complete opposite of classical. Equality of outcomes is mandated in this equation, so they break equality before the law to achieve it. Leading to the George Orwell's phrase in Animal Farm:

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

[–]lordlorb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

u/2comment

To be fair the founding fathers consisted of a group of criminals who committed high treason simply because they didn't like the way British were running things. War started thousands died we became independent and immediately proved we didn't deserve Independence by fighting among ourselves during the civil war.

The problem with founding a country out of treason and backstabbing is you can't fucking trust a system that was born by stabbing people in the back.

[–]2comment 0 points1 point  (1 child)

treason simply because they didn't like the way Britain were running things.

This is how revolutions basically always start. One person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. The winner usually dictates the story, the smart ones anyway.

This is always the fundamental amoral nature of power no matter how much of a velvet glove we place on the iron fist. One day that glove might be called the Enlightenment, the next Democracy, or Emancipation, or States' Rights, or Communism, or Republicanism. For the flag and children. The result is always the same, might makes right.

We listen to the government mostly not because of reason, but because of the punishment they can exact on us. And even Church saints weren't selected on their sheer goodness, except their goodness at spreading the religion and thus increasing Church's power.

[–]lordlorb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freedom fighters are nothing but a bunch of power hungry hypocrites that would see an entire nation burn simply because they think they can do a better job running the nation. America being free likely referred to gaining independence. But the people were never free and never will be free.

Also you neglect to remember that reddit isn't america it's reddit.

[–]AussiecuntTRP 3 points4 points  (7 children)

the left only believed that shit years when they weren't the most popular political stance. Now the left has taken over and surprise surprise, they've stopped supporting free speech. They have the power now. They don't have to lie to themselves about wanting free speech. It was just a strategy to gain support.

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    [–]sadness-enjoyer 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I couldn't imagine that line of thought entering my head. Everything about culture is dominated by the left. Academia, Hollywood, music, social media, fashion, etc. The Democrats are the machine, the establishment. The status quo. The right are the underdogs, the revolution, the rebellious freedom fighters.

    [–]reddzeppelin 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    the Rs have the white house but did not win the popular vote. the Ds underestimated the Rs by choosing Hillary Clinton as their candidate, who had strong enough opposition across the country for Donald Trump to win, despite opposition to him as well. Fox is watched but not respected as a news outlet. They have power sure, but the Ds still are the more popular political party. In part because its easier to let Bush and Trump be a strawman for Rs rather than attack them at their best. Obama won two terms remember, as did Bill Clinton. Bush won two but barely the rally round the flag effect had to be used. Obama would have won vs Trump if he cluld run again, and Clinton would have won against Bush, even Gore won the popular vote. They have popularity which is at least potential power.

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      [–]reddzeppelin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      power is not popularity which was the original point. there is a swinging pendulum and you are telling me to wake up to what is happening right now

      [–]Chayim47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      [–]lordlorb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yah but asking someone who doesn't like you to protect you is kinda silly.

      [–]cyrutvirus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      When it comes to social values - ima liberal and still believe in that ideology but sad too see where liberalism is headed.

      [–]lololasaurus 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      This was classical liberalism.

      Now we have progressivism. Not the same thing.

      [–]ATPsynthase12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Modern day libertarians are closer to classical liberalism than modern day liberals are. Basically the political spectrum in the us has shifted to the left a great deal since the 50’s. Some of it was good, but a lot of those advances led us to the highly polarized political climate we have today

      [–]Hung_Chad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Most people can’t tell you the difference. These days I say I’m center-left, and if they don’t know what that means they usually ask, and that way it’s a discussion instead of a label.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Are you sure they ever believed that? Maybe when they were holding the stick by its short end. People understand tolerance only when they are powerless, commonly. Power intoxicates their mind through the unconscious equating of "what I want to do 'cause it fosters my sense of power" = "what is good for the group /nation /world/solar system/Milky Way / universe", and they lose their former selves.

      [–]SKRedPill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      All are liberal only until someone expresses a contrary opinion.

      Then they're no different.

      [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 125 points126 points  (23 children)

      It would be hilarious if trp.red ended up replacing reddit as a general purpose web forum.

      Difference is, we wouldn't ban lefty subgroups. We'd just show them ads for vegan food, male chastity gear, and anti-depressants, and laugh all the way to the bank.

      [–]Modredpillschool[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      I have a vision of an openid platform that can be used by a script much like mine on forums.red, but it can be hosted by anybody on any server.

      You have the advantages of reddit - one userbase. Perhaps even aggregator sites that let you see updates in one place.

      But distributed power and impossible to censor in its entirety.

      [–]p_and_q 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      like having a reddit block chain

      [–]Sementeries 22 points23 points  (6 children)

      Don't forget soylent green.

      [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 18 points19 points  (5 children)

      Also cheap hair dye in pastel colours, piercing jewelry, Che Guevara tshirts, and lots and lots of chocolate.

      [–]2Overkillengine 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      And sheds so they have a place to stay when their significant other wants to fuck other men.

      [–]1Sir_Distic 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Hey if the price is right and I can get quantity discounts I'd buy lots of TRP chocolate.

      [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      Nah, in TRP we'll run ads for barbell equipment, guns, car parts, power tools, and condoms.

      [–]TissueBabies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      In TRP we'll run ads for whatever product we are socially manufacturing the desire for. I'd really just like to see what people would buy just because you tell them it's good.

      [–]Crazylikethatglue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I've seen TRP banning braincels.

      [–][deleted] 193 points194 points  (14 children)

      Can't say bomb in an airport.

      Can't talk about selling firearms on the internet.

      Can't nibble a poptart into a pistol....you'll get your terrorist 7 year old ass suspended.

      Slippery slopes.

      "Am I being detained?"

      A man who would trade liberty for the illusion of safety is not a man and deserves neither.

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 67 points68 points  (4 children)

      I want to train my dog, and now legitimately have a concern for my safety

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        [–]ButteredPastry 30 points31 points  (2 children)

        [–]vaughner 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        That's insane! Go ahead and bury your sense of humor. You will never be allowed to use it again if the SJWs get any more powerful in the states. Granted, it was in bad taste but not worthy of a prison sentence. Sheesh.

        [–]Qerus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Pretty soon it's gonna be a right to be not offended.

        Edit: and it's gonna trump free speech for easily offended pussies

        [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 33 points34 points  (4 children)

        I Nibble all of my poptarts into AK 47s with bayonets pistol grips and bumpstocks because I'm an Alpha Male!

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          [–]UltraCarnivore 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          And scary shoulder things that go up

          [–]Fyrjefe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          More attachments = more scary!11!!

          [–]fatalbinoninja 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Pfft, you only nibble?

          Real men toss the whole thing into their mouth and spit it out with three bites. Any more and you're a pussy fag who needs to read the sidebar.

          And lift more!!

          [–]Anonymous_Caucasian 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          That pop tart thing is ridiculous. I remember we use to hold pens like pistols and shoot each other.

          [–]ImHerWonderland 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You have the right to say bomb in the airport and I have the right to watch your ass until my flight leaves lol

          [–]Matacks607 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Yea but there are legitimate reasons you can't say bomb at airport.

          [–]lordlorb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Can't say bomb in the airpot

          Because inspiring widespread panic in a public space isn't that bad at all. Not like anyone has ever been trampled by a frighted mob before....

          Can't talk about selling firearms on the internet

          Err...Yah it's pretty obvious why you can't do that.

          A man who would trade liberty for the illusion of safety is not a man and deserves neither.

          Wise words from an actual terrorist who helped stage a bloody revolt against their home country because they didn't like the way things were being run...

          [–]GoCleanYourRoom 71 points72 points  (3 children)

          Bonny Cuckland cemented the fact that we dont have freedom of speech in the UK and set a repugnant legal precedent this week.

          Our police are too busy arresting people for offensive jokes to stop decades long grooming of teenage girls by rape gangs in the north of the UK. We are living in a fucking meme these days.

          Seig Heil. Gas the jews. Free count Dankula.

          [–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP 35 points36 points  (0 children)

          On the upside the response is fucking hilarious. Excuse me while I go get my funny-walk-boots on.

          [–]VickVaseline 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Bonny Cuckland

          At first I thought "Bonny Cuckland" was a person's name lol

          [–]its_meKnightSwolaire[🍰] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Im more of a Deus Vult man myself

          [–]WhorehouseVet 46 points47 points  (10 children)

          Saw the huge list of subreddits being banned yesterday on subredditdrama, and the huge shit show that followed. Reddit is committing seppuku buy killing off popular subs who aren't illegal (like beertrades) or morally questionable (like pantyselling).

          Now that SJW thought censoring is at its height, I hope more people will slowly see the dangerous path down the "I don't like your idea so I'll screech until you're censored" SJW bullshit.

          What about Voat, will it be a backup plan to migrate TRP there if Reddit does kill thus sub off?

          [–]Modredpillschool[S] 29 points30 points  (8 children)

          Voat is a shit show. Our backup plan is not only listed in the text of my post above, but it's listed on the sidebar.

          https://www.forums.red

          [–]mattizie 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          Voat is a shit show

          What's wrong with it? Anything we should be aware of? I've been using it for a while, but apart from idiots larping as Nazis it hasn't been that bad.

          [–]Modredpillschool[S] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

          Among the many issues- mainly the inability for us to take 100% control of our mirror sub there, stability issues, and general trolling... I don't like the idea of trading an old boss for a new one. If we have to make a jump, we're not going to do it more than once.

          [–]mattizie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I see what you mean, if you don't filter out your sub, you'd get swamped with shit. Guess voat's not the place for TRP, I'll join you on trp.red when the sub gets shutdown.

          [–]Kingoffistycuffs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          An absolute baller as always RPS.

          [–]isynot 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          The homepage is full of posts from The Donald instead of The Red Pill. https://www.forums.red/i/

          [–]Modredpillschool[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          I have been archiving the_donald as well.

          You can view the red pill here: https://www.forums.red/i/theredpill

          [–]1Hulegu2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Click on the link above and bookmark it!! RPS was years ahead of the curve. The rest of us can try to keep up.

          [–]lordlorb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It seems like reddit is just trying to distance itself from groups like that so it can ditch its reputation of being a website that only degenerates use. Right now Reddit is viewed about as highly as 4chan or the pornhub comment section. And if I was a business man I likely would have likely shadow banned groups like the redpill a long time ago. Because I wouldn't want my face next to a product that causes public outcry.

          [–]FirstNamesMusic 41 points42 points  (9 children)

          I have a coworker whose son was expelled for a line he said during a rap battle.

          It was being recorded to YouTube, and his line ended with "I'm killing it, wonder who my next victim is."

          Later that day cops, took him out of class handcuffed him, and he is now labeled a domestic terrorist.

          He was the only white kid doing the battle with his friends who were black.

          No other kid was punished, and now he is labeled a terrorist for life.

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              [–]YGDieciseis 5 points6 points  (3 children)

              Shit, did one of the kids in the battle get offended or was it just the administration?

              [–]FirstNamesMusic 12 points13 points  (2 children)

              Students watching the battle on you tube were "offended"

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              Is that video still uploaded? Any news publication talk about this? That's fucked up

              [–]FirstNamesMusic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              I'll see if I can find it. I never asked my friend for the video, I'll ask him when I see him.

              [–]MaliciousMack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Dude what the fuck. Shit my username will get me marked a terrorist by that logic.

              [–]1mental_models -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              wow, if true get with some media types and he will be able to fund college off of that story, possibly get into a select university if he's competent and reaches out.

              he's lucky as fuck

              [–]2Dmva100 38 points39 points  (3 children)

              Leftist ideology worships minority ethnicities in order to bypass meritocratic argument.  By focusing entirely on identity and 'lived experience,' leftists circumnavigate actual argument in favor of racially-weighted appeal to authority. 

              Now it's happening with anything that doesn't fit the narrative.

              [–]redpill77 7 points8 points  (1 child)

              Hadn't thought of it like that. True. And they ensure to keep their conversations so full of power rhetoric that the words of any racial person- who according to them should be heard- who is reasonable falls on deaf ears, merely by way of speaking a different language: the language of rationality. Or is written off as having 'internalized racism.'

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Rhetoric is a fist of power in a glove of morally-sounding speech.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              The reason leftists champion the weak and minority groups is because Christian morality is infested in western culture. Socialism is just Christianity without the god, and it is devoted to inverting the natural order of things, and making demons of the strong and powerful, taking with resentment and democracy what they cannot with power.

              [–]Endorsed Contributorthelandofdreams 16 points17 points  (1 child)

              Can't upvote this enough. It is fucking terrifying seeing how little the current generation seems to care about the quintessential right of free expression.

              Just today I saw the Nazi pug guy got convicted. They are going to put the dude in a FUCKING CAGE, for making an edgy video with an off color joke, no worse in nature than the content of the famous movie "The Producers".

              It is a scary time to be a free thinker.

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              All human history has been a ghastly time for the free of mind — since freedom is power's sworn enemy.

              What changes over time (and across places) is what specifically you can't say.

              [–]Mako_One 19 points20 points  (6 children)

              What about a Blockchain / Tangle solution where anything written, said and outspoken will be there forever?

              A true freedom of speech project. Where nothing can be banned, deleted or removed. In that regard we have to think about what we really want. Do we want community’s like this which will be moderated by elected mods or do we want true freedom and have to deal with spammers and other kinds of subverting individuals?

              Something like Steemit but with the haptic of Reddit. Maybe someone can code a simple front end for their Blockchain. It’s theoretically already there. But I really like the browsing thru the subreddits here, because it’s fast, clear and well structured. We should keep it.

              It’s time to face real freedom of speech. That includes that we have to deal with the ugly truth. The truth that for example there will be criminals who use it as a refuge. The truth that we have to deal with different sets of morals from individuals. I am ready to deal with it.

              It has to be truly decentralized so no one can gain full control. In that regard it’s time to think bigger - about a decentralized internet. Kim Dotcom had some plans about that.

              Several layers of the internet - so we could dive deep down into our own network but remain onto the surface if we want to.

              Maybe we can integrate several Blockchains - one per “Subreddit / Topic Channel” into one big front end. In this way we can elect mods to moderate the chain - but only for a certain amount of time. After the timeframe has closed no more editing is possible and the statement will be written in the blockchain.

              I’m no coder. I have no idea what’s technical possible and what not. But we are driving fast to the point of no return. It’s not about TRP. Its about a global movement that leftist / liberal governments, companies and cooperations around the globe are abusing their power to push their agenda and censor our freedom of speech because it hurts their feelings. That’s not only an American problem.

              I’m all in for the opposite.

              I’m willing to get my feelings hurt - whatever may come - for freedom.

              From Germany

              [–]redpillchill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              its definitely possible to write a frontend for steemit that would look exactly like reddit. busy.org / chainbb are some alternate ways to view steem content that is backed by the chain!

              [–]NormalAndy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Great post. I remain amazed that free speech can be curtailed through as little as ‘hurting someone’s feelings.’

              I still have no idea why this can count for so much. Is it really only women needing to run for safety when living in a mans world where they really have nothing more than half the vote as a weapon? It’s a shame if it’s true.

              We will be equal but it’s going to happen by destroying you down to our level - and why stop there? Why indeed... yet already it’s taboo for us to speculate and how wonderful the perceived power must feel!

              Keep powering up, keep organizing.

              [–]RaddiNet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              How many subs will I get banned from by posting here? :D
              Anyway, I hope to have raddi.net ready when the next ban-wave comes. It's very similar to what you have described. Hopefully it will offer safe refuge to all undesirable communities.

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                [–]RaddiNet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I believe that what hinders Steemit is entanglement with SMT. A huge amount of people want to simply talk and socialize, not learn and worry about some tokens.

                [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                a lot of gun subreddits got shitcanned as well, including my favorite gundeals

                [–]needz 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                Have you considered a Mastodon node? It's a self-hosted, decentralized social network. Individual nodes are responsible for moderating their own content (or not), but you can open up for cross-talk between nodes-- meaning users registered on other nodes can participate on your node and vice versa.

                [–]vaughner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I've never seen this before. I'm gong to have to look into it. Thanks!

                [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                Dang, if that ain't an olive branch,i don't know what is.

                [–]TheYekke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It’s always a good idea to host your parties away from neighbors or surrounded by high fences. Reddit is neither. Mgtow.com is a good start, the darkweb the next step beyond.

                [–]Helpcalculus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                We should be fine for now. The announcement said

                As of today, users may not use Reddit to solicit or facilitate any transaction or gift involving certain goods and services, including:

                • Firearms, ammunition, or explosives;

                • Drugs, including alcohol and tobacco, or any controlled substances (except advertisements placed in accordance with our advertising policy);

                • Paid services involving physical sexual contact;

                • Stolen goods;

                • Personal information;

                • Falsified official documents or currency

                But I agree that the danger of shutting this sub down is getting closer and closer. I used to be an unhappy cuck before stumbling upon this place. Now I'm a happy cuck.

                [–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                Caught a thread in Best Of talking about the banning of subreddits:

                / r /announcements/comments/863xcj/new_addition_to_sitewide_rules_regarding_the_use

                General gist, and which I agree, Reddit will embrace the advertising model and will remove any sub that tarnishes the "reddit" brand. Notice that many banned subs are selling products. Given the gun rights fervor lately, it's no wonder as they don't want any liability associated with it. Simultaneously, they can't have Hanes advertising on a pantyselling sub.

                That being said, YouTube and Twitter both actively ban/remove controversial content and throttle voices which go against MSM i.e. the advertisers' wishes.

                That's why it's been said before and it's being said again: TRP has a 2nd home for when the day comes that our voices are deemed too expensive to ignore.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                controversial content

                = content that disagrees with the elite's interests and the fiction they stage for the clueless.

                [–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                In new news, sugardaddies and escorts sub have both been banned from Reddit. This is due to the recent legislation banning digital solicitation of sex. Reddit doesn't want to be held liable neither does Craigslist so they dropped the personels section. Given the Hitler dog fiasco, Citibank's gun regulation decision, and some other bannings, it's only a matter of time before SJWs force the closure of any sub that makes people feel bad.

                [–]redvelvet_oreo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                I was starting to write a python script that saves all my "saved" TRP posts to a PDF or Document of sorts. Then I came across a script that does something very similar. It would be interesting to get archives of peoples saved posts. There are alot amazing posts that are only in the low hundreds of upvotes 300 - 500 that I wish had more visibility.

                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Check what I sent you

                [–]t1mm3h 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                What has actually happened? I've seen some posts but nothing about what is actually going on.

                [–]presence06 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                All I've heard is that Reddit banned r/gundeals and several other gun related subs. Their reason was because their new policy states no firearm sales or trades...yet that sub only had links to legally purchase firearms and accessories.. there are other subs that have been removed though for the same reason - beer threads.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Anyone who wants to see what the literal precursor to a 1984-esque dystopia looks like, go watch the interview Tommy Robinson did with Brittany Pettibone. It's hard to believe that happened in one of the so-called "free" democracies of the West.

                [–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (5 children)


                Get in touch with me if you think you've got an idea or need help with an idea that you believe will combat censorship.


                On that note good sir, a former EC, ex_addict_bro suggested I reach out to you in regards to my Red Pill videos, so I suppose I'll do that right now.

                I found, that the Red Pill lacked a real youtube channel - something that features the EC's, features the side bar posts, and some of the best top posts of all time.

                Sure, there may be some Red Pill channels that focus on Pod-Casts, power point demonstrations in front of crowds, or RSD type videos where the guy talks into a camera. However, there is no Red Pill youtube channel that does it in the simple whiteboard style similar to Illacertus, the guy who made animated the 48 laws of power.

                Another thing, so many "self help" guys wander onto the Red Pill and use it as a platform to boost themselves, with their "5 tips to be stoic" and "these shoes will make women ADORE you," and the likes but NO ONE, (not even red pill psychology,) has made STRICTLY RED PILL youtube videos, except for Abdada, who has since vanished.

                Guys come on here and post their youtube links, but they're not doing it for the Red Pill. They see TRP as a platform to grow their individual self help channels rather than seeing their channel as a way to strengthen TRP.

                I've animated Rollo's first Iron rule, and plan to continue turning the rest of them, and other classic Red Pill laws into videos. Rollo shared my video on his twitter, and I also had the pleasure of working with Rian Stone as well.

                I remember asking a long time ago, why didnt the Red Pill have a youtube channel? So I decided just to make one.


                I have not found a single youtube channel that animates the real shit straight off the forums - like michaels story, confessions of a reformed incel, Dirty sheets - etc. They all make "Why you should take cold showers" trash videos. Not real red pill. Not until Abdada and I started making red pill videos.

                I just think we need a Real/official red pill youtube channel, so I made one.

                [–]modSlyGradient[M] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                We should be clear the self-promotion of your blog, website, youtube channel, etc. is generally not permitted on TRP. Most large subs have similar policies. Otherwise, TRP would quickly turn into a shitshow of every crappy PUA coach trying to push their "product" or whatever. The purpose of TRP - trading notes with other men about sexual strategy and identity - would get lost in the noise.

                We make an exception for flaired users. But generally trying to use TRP to self-promote will result in post removal and possibly a ban. It's how we keep the sub clean and the content on point.

                [–]3LiveAFTSOV 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                Those are the EXACT kind of posts Im talking about - "How to tie your shoes like an alpha," or "heres 5 ways to become stoic."

                Thats why I said these guys come by and promote their own channel with their own content rather than Red Pill content.

                There is no youtube channel for the Red Pill that talks about the side bar, or what ECs say, or the top posts of all time - and I believe that should change.

                Edit : basically, taking Red Pill content, like, michaels story, or dirty sheets or plate theory, the laws of pook, making it a video, then putting it back here for everyone to watch. I always confirm with mods to have my red pill video posts approved and they have been so far, accepted and approved which I am thankful for.

                [–]chaseemall 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                There was a guy doing it for a while. I'll see if I can't find it.

                [–]3LiveAFTSOV -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                his name is like, abada or something like that, he made a video about hypergamy

                [–]TheLegionnaire00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                If you need an extra coder for TRP I'm ready to help. I work in cyber security but I know a little about web design(javascript, php etc.) and maybe I can help a little.

                [–]jrells 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Fuck! I love this so much. Freedom of speech is being threatened by the left. Next thing I know I can't call someone a he or she. That's like saying I can't call a chair a horse. If I fucking wanted to call it a horse I can. Also I was recently banned from social justice 101 sub Reddit for offending someone, as I was trying to answer their question. Thank you OP for this.

                [–]subwayjack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Conservatives need to create Facebook, YouTube, and Reddit alternatives and move their money and revenue to those platforms and maintain freedom of speech.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Truth no longer has to be supressed, because it's buried under a mountain of lies. This is what authoritarianism is now, an enemy that can't be seen and pointed at. With social media, instead of taking, the system gives until you get addicted and can't live without it. Multinational corporations and governments are in a stronger position than ever before, and ever thought possible

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Well, mass communication media mass techonology and mass managerial knowledge helps elite "bulk-manage" people, and they are heading to govern things "globally" (starting from what people are to be made to think is "reality", that is, news coverage and narrative).

                [–]Ch1pp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                How are you funding forums.red ? Have you set up a donation mechanism so other red pillers could help with site running costs?

                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I have received some donations over the years, and a few generous people purchase ads on trp.red, but it is mainly out of pocket for me.

                Bitcoin donations can be made here: 16bkjUDUcFhvePWdcyVpBDaS7FxBpxXta

                I have also tinkered with the idea of starting a hatreon account. Not sure if I want to introduce that element to this community.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I'm glad this sub isn't so blindly overtaken by stupidity and the leftist movement. God damn. It's nice to be here.

                [–]Bandos15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Thank you!

                [–]Odins-left-eye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Admins fucked up big this time. They were solidly picking on fringe straight white conservative men up until now. Most of reddit just shrugged and said "Good! They deserved it!" But it's primarily the far left that had sympathy for legalizing prostitution. They're going to create accidental allies and end up generating sympathy for all of the people who have been told "You're not allowed to think or say that" here.

                [–]wawakaka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                they should monetize with product reivews and surveys and keep it free speech.

                quick survey coke or pepsi?

                [–]ttthistttthat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                "It's funny that we were the big bad guy not too many years ago, users begged for us to be silenced. But now are being approached by people whose speech you wouldn't consider to be controversial now asking us for help in protecting their freedom of speech."

                Interesting. The "big bad guys" are becoming the havens for general society (ie people who use free speech in any way or use things that depend on free speech). Just hope you have provisions in place to protect your haven.

                http://tttthis.com/developerlimitations.php

                [–]Aaronindhouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                It is very disturbing to see how platforms like reddit and YouTube are actively censoring speech and world views that don’t align with left leaning ideology. It is even more disturbing to me that left leaning people who supposedly believe in free speech don’t see how these actions threaten the very fabric of free speech in western society.

                [–]xMellow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Adding those links to my bookmarks.

                [–]AllahHatesFags 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                [–]EdmondDaunts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                People tend not to use the Silver Rule: Do not do onto others what you would want others not to do to you.

                The same way that people argue over the maths of the Monty Hall problem. Dealing in negatives as a positive is hard.

                [–]BurnoutRS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Theres going to be a fucking war and this time its coming to a part of western civilization near you. Im Canadian, I can't honestly say at this time whether I'd fight and die to defend what my country currently is, but you can rest assured that I'd be willing to do so for my right to freedom of expression.

                When you go to make a post, a piece of art, write a song, disseminate any content throughout the global media consumer populace, if you hesitate even for a moment in fear that there may be some consequence for the nature of that content, then the thought police are knocking at your door.

                [–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Memes ... create powerful memes and distribute them far and wide

                You are absolutely correct about needing to "raise the awareness" of the 'average person' about how the restriction of their 'speech' will affect them personally ... in a few words or a picture ... with a few words if it 'works'

                "memetics" is currently an extremely effective 'tool' in conveying ideas to people as the masses have been 'trained' to recognize memes

                Advertising is Meme City and the masses are like Pavlov's dog to the 'right image' esp the powerful 'images' created from a few words ... there are so many we call 'cliches' becoz we've all heard them i.e. "guns don't kill people, people kill people" -- whether you agree or not, the Fact you know this saying (and many others, including advertising jingles) which explains what I'm saying about "memes sticking in one's brain"

                In this day and age when "ideas" can go 'viral' and many memes have gone viral, you need to create memes which stimulate people's curiosity about "why is free speech so important?" in the first place and most esp "why is freedom of speech important to Me?"

                "just say no" was a good one ... ( "just say no way" to ...) you can always hijack old memes and turn them into having a completely different meaning e.g. changing the Hollywood sign to Hollyweed, lol, another ripper that while it was only up for a few hours, millions of people talked about it that day!

                memes RedPill brother, use the waves generated by the machine to surf your ideas on

                [–]BornShook 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I definitly feel like we need to have a stronger backup plan. I haven't thought much about it though. I will ponder this and lyk if I come up with any ideas

                [–]Fudimaar -1 points0 points  (11 children)

                Hmmmm.... reminds me of Redpill mods banning people that go against their values...

                Like the guy that said he isn't interested in being a pussyworshipper. BAM! BANNED.

                What goes around comes around I guess...

                [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 1 point2 points  (9 children)

                Don't mistake quality control for censorship.

                [–]Fudimaar 0 points1 point  (8 children)

                Lol! I wonder if that is the excuse the Chinese give when they block off websites. Gtfo lol you think anyone is stupid enough to fall for that?

                [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 1 point2 points  (7 children)

                Have you seen the nonsense that gets removed from here? Shit exactly like your rambling nonsense above.

                If you want to call that censorship, fill your boots.

                [–]Fudimaar 0 points1 point  (6 children)

                How is this rambling?

                I have seen a mod argue with a guy even though OP was right. And then he just deleted his comment and most likely banned him from the sub. He had almost 200 upvotes as well here. Sooooo....

                Lol guys he the mod got pissed and banned me. Hahahahahha what a pusssy

                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                Better go tell your parents.

                [–]Fudimaar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Lol am I about to get banned Mr. BIGBADMOD?

                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                You just disagreed with us about censorship without being censored.

                And now you're blatantly trying to goad a moderator into banning you to prove your point.

                Of course I'm going to ban you. This board is about sexual strategy, not censorship, dipshit.

                [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                [–]Fudimaar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Huh? Why are you so desperate to hide behind deflection. Is it difficult for you to tackle an issue head on sir?

                Btw I remembered to take a screenshot of the incident. If you like I can provide it. Then we will see who the hypocrite is. Tell me! Would you like to see It?

                [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I am, would you prefer I be blunt? You're a narcissist who thinks you're owed consistency to your internal logic. You misuse terms like censorship in order to placate your ego. And normally I suggest every man gets a healthy dose of narcissism, it needs to be compartmentalized to work with reality.

                People are not removed for having a different opinion, they are removed for acting a damn fool. users like /u/jamesskepp spent his first months on reddit just arguing with an endorsed contributor, and he wasn't banned for it (well, once, but they both got a temp) he got flair for it. end of the day, men here give props when other men show they know how to handle themselves.

                I will be more than happy to acknowledge your point if you want to make it, until then, I'm lumping you in with the other 900 idiots who say the same thing, when they were really just screeching autistically into the void.

                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Yup. Moderation on a forum keeps the subject matter on topic.

                Doesn't mean I've called for reddit to ban subreddits I disagree with.

                I personally love the idea that like-minded people can gather on their own sub to discuss what they'd like. All I want is our ability to do so.

                [–]JohnnyElBravo -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

                It's so hypocritical to see a community that is basically an echo chamber that has grown out of moderators silencing users who disagree with their core tennets of misogyny, rally for freedom of speech. The red pill stands for freedom of speech in the same way /r/pyongyang does.

                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I support idiots who disagree with me. If reddit banned thebluepill I would give them a place on forums.red.

                That doesn't mean you can troll on my sub. You can't. And you will be removed for doing so.

                [–]AllahHatesFags 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                That's bullshit, considering r/TwoXChromosomes and other radical leftist subs will ban you without even having posted there. The "Alt-Right" subs (with the exception of r/The_Donald) tolerate dissenting ideas. You may get downvoted to hell but you won't get banned.

                [–]JohnnyElBravo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                TwoXChromosomes is as guilty of this kind of censoring too.