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Men's RightsIreland: 16 year old boy gets statutory rape charge for having sex with a girl the game age as him. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Eugenics2015

http://www.thejournal.ie/statutory-rape-boy-concern-2643527-Mar2016/

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Evidence was given by defence solicitor Arthur Dennehy that the teenage boy met the girl at a social event in Dublin. The court heard how the girl, who is not in state care, went home and told her parents that consensual sexual contact had happened with the accused. Mr Dennehy said that the parents, who come from a “decent family”, objected to this boy being in a relationship with their daughter.

"Irish Law is fucked up. To add to this, a female under 17 cannot be guilty of statutory rape regardless of how young the male is. Because of the above law a 16 year old female cannot be charged for having sex with a 12 year old guy for example. But as the female is under 17 and males can be charged with statutory rape the 12 year old can be charged for having sex with someone underage (but 4 years older than him). Irish law gets even worse around rape. Rape is the insertion of the penis into any orifice without the consent of the person receiving the insertion. Women essentially cant rape as they don't have a penis, even if they force you to have sex with them it's not rape. Throughout Irish law it is assumed in many places that all women are victims of sex and all men are trying to coerce them into it."

Conclusion

And people say there is no point of a MRM?


[–]ShitlerParty 154 points155 points  (6 children)

They expect us to respect girls/women as equals and to consider them just as capable of men, yet we're not supposed to hold them accountable for any actions when there's a man involved . . . unless those actions are "good," then she was definitely in control and demonstrated prowess and cunning.

It's be hilarious if it weren't so fucking tragic.

[–]Appleseed12333 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I see it as that the lack of responsibility is actively holding women back. At least for me as a man, taking responsibility for my own actions was a huge point that I took another step towards maturity. Self-restraint is a valuable trait.

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    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    i mean its the same shit they preach all over colleges now, and you can probably still get arrested for it

    feminism, not even once

    [–]akjoltoy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    I think infuriating is the word you're looking for.

    [–]bowie747 49 points50 points  (5 children)

    Aren't young girls supposed to be more mature than boys their same age?

    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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      [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

      Same. The only thing I saw was they got a little taller than the boys in 5th grade. What women don't want to admit is that a portion of the 17 year olds were fucking guys in their 30s. Fucking much older men was the "maturity" they were alluding to.

      [–]jmg83 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Funny how that works out, isn't it? When I was a teenager a shitload of girls I knew were with older fellas. They'd make fun of their male peers and disdain them for being just "boys", while think they themselves are grown women. One girl in my class left school to be with a 32 year old man, and although I'd had my 16th birthday, I'm not even sure she had at the time, which would mean this guy was breaking the law.

      [–]fingerthemoon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      They're more sexually valuable as they peak about 15 years before men in the SMP. In that sense they are more mature.

      [–]TurgidMeatWand 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I thought so too, until I realized maturity really only refers to puberty, and they are every bit as stupid as boys.

      [–]Endorsed Contributoralways-be-closing 90 points91 points  (12 children)

      And people say there is no point of a MRM?

      There might be, to you.

      I'm just one person, and my job description isn't "Trying to push back against the tides of degeneracy to save the West from itself"

      The State and Academia and Corporate interests have what they want out of feminism and the sexual revolution.

      Why shouldn't I have what I want?

      http://www.amazon.com/Enjoy-Decline-Accepting-Living-United/dp/1480284769

      Don't be so invested in the government and in society; the government doesn't love you. Society only loves what you can give.

      Look at how governments and society treat homeless men who cannot offer anyone anything, and you'll see what "you" are worth.


      Just enjoy your life as much as you can, and put your effort into building things that help you enjoy it even further.

      Meaning, fairness, equality, righteousness, etc.

      This is all pretty high level stuff that I don't think I understand; but I understand enjoyment and accomplishment and happiness. I can understand empathy, but don't let it get in the way of putting yourself first - - because no one else is going to be putting you first, I assure you.

      [–]McLarenX 25 points26 points  (5 children)

      I read today that the age group with the highest rate of self-destruction, and rapidly increasing, are working class white males aged 40-55. The primary factors listed were crippling addictions and suicides.

      These are people who were told their whole life all they had to do is work and find a nice girl to marry and society would take care of them. Now that they're older, they see that there is no silver lining in sight. Social security is gone, all the good manufacturing jobs are gone, and their retirements were wiped during the engineered "financial crisis" by the world's elite. And their significant other left along with their future.

      What little decent jobs there are left are going to affirmative action workers who are federally mandated, and illegal immigrants who will accept less.

      To me, this is reason alone to say fuck the world and look out for yourself. When the system is stacked against you, it's better to not play their fucking games. This is why Trump is so popular, and why the only way to stop him is to kill him.

      [–]LoveLord1000 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      Now white man know how red man feel when his world is destroyed.

      [–]fingerthemoon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I drove through the big Indian reservation in Arizona a couple years ago unwittingly while following google maps from Zion National Park and it was seriously fucked up. No cell service for a day of driving, no radio stations, no stores or businesses, just a gas station every few hours with a small convenience store. Everyone lived in trailers and each trailer had a telephone poll with a street light on top. It was Friday night around 8pm and no cars on the road. A whole fucking town with a high school and everything (no businesses) in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do. If you were lucky enough to get access to a car it would still take you 6 hours of driving to get anywhere.

      [–]McLarenX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      True, they're dying from substance abuse just like Indians

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      look on the bright side. now there a lot more people with Native Heritage than before hand.

      [–]antariusz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      Awesome post explaining "enjoy the decline" beyond just parroting the 3 words. Thanks for going a step above and beyond.

      TRP is not the MRM, nor should it ever become that way. But maybe someone should have thought that boy to be a bit more "circumspect" so he didn't get ducked over by the law.

      That is TRP.

      [–]yomo86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I like your thought on that.

      So the economy, the state and the women got everything out of feminism. Money, taxpayers, special rights.

      Any further push will be recognized by those 3 entities not only as a threat of the status quo but as a real negative outcome. Changing the matrix to the negative and removing the option of choice. A lot of dudes woke up recently. Two of our high school interns "just want to fuck bitches and not getting married" it is scary.

      Think of it. Boy aged 16 gets charged for SR. Not only does it take up the time of the court, it will disenfranchise the betas in high school - why paying for dates when you are not allowed to stick your dick in? -, it cost the economy. No advertisments for the illusion of being a stud when you use product X. And no chads coming to get the underaged girls even if he himself is a minor.

      I, for one, think we don't need MRM. In Europe child costudy laws getting slowly changed to accomodate the fathers, some argue due to "progressivness" I say because men - even the rich BBs - admit openly kids are not on the table anymore because of the fucked up laws.

      My point is: Men do what they do when there is no way of winning. They just walk away. The gov can force them on the plantation but what if no one is going to work?

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        [–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I haven't read any of Aaron's stuff in years - thanks for the link!

        [–]MortalSisyphus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Don't be so invested in the government and in society;

        Our evolved instinct for ethnocentric cooperation has been eliminated because society is no longer ethnically homogeneous.

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        The offence of statutory rape in Ireland is basically if you are a guy of any age and have sex with any girl under 17 it is rape, period. If he was 11 in this case it's still statutory rape BY HIM.

        Edit : this case is worse than I first thought - the kid is in state care and reading between the lines has a low IQ .. And the girl says they had consensual sex ... And he's still to blame ???? What the fuck ???

        [–]TavolettaRossa 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, it's fucked. But they dodge around the issue saying it's because the girl can get pregnant, and we don't have legal abortions here. Dismissing the fathers role, except financially of course, right from the get go.

        Add in all the feminist nutters over here, and none of them mind all this inequality in the law; I guess maybe because it just further proves all men are potential rapists, even if they're actually molested by a girl older than them.

        It rarely reaches the point of this case, but it has happened before. In this instance it seems like the parents are frustrated at their little angel being a little whore and are taking it out on the kid to justify their own feelings of failure - they can't have legitimately failed if someone wronged them by breaking the infallible law.

        It sounds like the girl is staying adamant that it was consensual, I shouldn't need to acknowledge or applaud that, but we all know this isn't the norm and is a small positive in an otherwise fucked up scenario.

        [–]Eugenics2015[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I feel like if boys under age 18 collectively said, fuck teenage girls and stopped having sex with them they could get this law changed over night.

        There would be women in the street protesting it

        But men are so retarded about anything that relates to sex.

        [–]Moldy_Gecko 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        For us, there is no point of MRM. That's not what we do here. We adapt to the shithole we live in and make sure we remain on top.

        [–]aazav 6 points7 points  (3 children)

        Of course, the girl got equal charges, right?

        [–]TavolettaRossa 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        Girls can't be charged for this in Ireland.

        [–]NeoreactionSafe 11 points12 points  (15 children)

         

        We can only take pleasure in destroying the Blue Pill mythology when we get an opportunity to do so.

        "Movements" are by their nature held together by followers.

        The Red Pill teaches each man to have Frame (internal Freedom) and to act on Game (Liberty) but nowhere does it suggest following.

        Once you understand this you know why we aren't into "Movements".

        The goal here is to change the man by enhancing his masculine polarity on the deep personal level.

        The Red Pill is about self improvement and enlightenment from myths.

         

        As for statutory rape... that sucks for that guy. I got two different underage girls pregnant long ago and never got into any trouble (1980's) so the times seem to have changed. They both just aborted and it was forgotten.

         

        [–]Moldy_Gecko 3 points4 points  (12 children)

        You're really trying to keep this Frame (freedom) and Game (Liberty) a thing. Haha, I don't think I've read a post recently without you using that.

        [–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points  (5 children)

        Men love women, women love children, children love puppies

        ...another core Red Pill concept.

        Think of Red Pill as like math. There are certain logical and symbolic operations that define the relationships and we simply "spin the Rubik's Cube" into different combination in our presentation.

        Eventually you begin to "live the Red Pill" in your mind.

        The ultimate goal is action on an intuitive level.

        ...so the more angles we show the more flexible people become.

        If we did a serial approach... A leads to B leads to C... then you would be a follower and not significantly different than the Blue Pill.

        The goal is flexible independent thought in a masculine polarity.

         

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        And dogs love men. It's full circle.

        At least if judging who they bother when the spouse and I don't have treats anyways

        [–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        A dog can't love a man like a man loves his dog.

        A woman can't love a man like a man loves his woman.

         

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        I wonder how to settle that

        [–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Men love as "above".

        The man must reward and punish... the women need only follow.

         

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'm only talking the dog. Mine are pretty unconditional.

        [–]1StoicCrane 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        In the sidebar. Suggest reading if you aren't familiar. Painfully sobering and eye-opening on many levels.

        [–]Moldy_Gecko 0 points1 point  (4 children)

        Oh, I know all about frame, game and the sidebar. I'm specifically pointing out that all posts I've seen from him lately has almost exactly the same reply.

        [–]8n0n 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        "Movements" are by their nature held together by followers.

        The Red Pill teaches each man to have Frame (internal Freedom) and to act on Game (Liberty) but nowhere does it suggest following.

        Law 38 of the 48 laws of power by Robert Greene suggests following (think as you like, but behave like others).

        Being alpha/red predisposed does not mean you have to lead at all times.

        Just as TRP sub is a toolbox of stuff, where you come here to learn about the tools and when to apply them appropriately, a man should also know when it is in his best interests to lead or to follow and do so accordingly until it is to his advantage to follow no more (leave a group) or become a leader himself.

        Once you understand this you know why we aren't into "Movements".

        TRP itself is not into movements because the rewards of any movement are not outweighed by the risks we as individuals would face were we to publicly identify ourselves as being part of said movement (that is; not all of us are in a secure position to challenge the status quo like Milo Yiannopoulos).

        [–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The 38 law says to:

        Pretend to be like others...

        ...while secretly plotting your own Game.

        It's says to be deceptive.

        Following as I was discussing the idea is the slave like total obediance like a SJW has to the Blue Pill.

         

        [–]DeafDumbBlindBoy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        And this kid's still a teenager?

        How long did it take for the Irish to go after the Catholic Church for the actual rape of children, boys and girls?

        [–]Elodrian 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I wonder how Germany handles this? They've got thousands of 30 year old migrant "children" who blatently lied about their ages to get in with the complicity of border service agents. But now, as far as Germany is concerned, that 32 year old man is a 14 year old child. So when this "minor" rapes a German woman, should she be charged with statutory rape?

        [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        I would rather it didn't happen at men's expense in the form of countless lives though. I'd also wager that it's not that people don't know, it's that they don't care...just like the rest of government corruption.

        [–]Eugenics2015[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Men should have the self respect to boycot sex in a country where they can be automatically accused of rape at the girls whim.

        If guys are going to brainlessly put their lives at risk like that I really don't give a shit what happens to them.

        [–]Eugenics2015[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        No brother, i agree with you a million percent. I love cases like this, and I don't really care what happens to guys in this situation. Men are powerless because we act like we cant say no to sex.

        If young men boycotted sex with teenage girls it would take about 3 months for the girls to get desperate enough to change the law themselves. But men have no self respect

        [–]-Maraud3r 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I'd say it's less a case of no self respect and a lot of upbringing aswell as hormones. Let's be honest, how many 16 year old boys will pass up on getting it on with a decently attractive 16 year old girl.

        We were never designed to be the sexual gatekeepers of humanity, it wasn't our job and we're in no way "programmed" to do so. Which is why a lot of recent societal change is so negative for us, as it plays on our very nature and twists it in ways to be used as a weapon against us.

        I feel bad for that boy, he did nothing wrong but the system will crush him regardless. It's a sobering read however and just serves to show in what kind of society we live and why one should take all they can without ever giving anything back.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I read this and the first thing that hit me was, "Zaidan? Since when did near-easterners get appointed Judge in a Catholic country?" Then I just shrugged. I'm half expecting that as this story develops a priest comes forward and presents documents showing he married these two.

        [–]tb87670 -1 points0 points  (15 children)

        It's another leftist shithole like all the others in Europe. We can only hope the downfall for Sweden and other leftist countries will be swift and these peoples go extinct in short order due to their idiotic policies. The faster it happens the faster the rest of the world wakes up.

        [–]Eugenics2015[S] 21 points22 points  (4 children)

        Has nothing to do with leftism. The most egregious examples of misandry are usually found in conservative cultures.

        The particular laws in ireland are from a looong time ago.

        [–]tb87670 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

        How are the recent changes to divorce law in the late 90's a "looong time ago" as you put it? The initial Firearms Act was in 1924 which is not ancient history. It has everything to do with leftism. Those are the countries that remove rights from their citizenry and that typically encompasses the rights of men. Leftists/liberals today are almost unanimously feminists to boot. They have to be for political correctness.

        [–]akjoltoy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Is there a TRP'ish subreddit for people who really think stuff like this has nothing to do with leftism?

        Because if so you need to go there and submerge your head there until you get a clue.

        [–]jacksteroo18 7 points8 points  (8 children)

        If you actually knew anything about ireland you'd know that the left haven't been in power for a long time.

        [–]tb87670 -5 points-4 points  (7 children)

        Atrocious gun laws, 'free' medical care that backs up the entire system and is known as one of the worst managed healthcare systems, list goes on and Ireland falls under what most people know as a 'leftist' nation.

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          [–]tb87670 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          Hitler even said in one of his speeches he and the Germans were socialists his own words yet people like to paint him with the extreme right fascist brush. Call it what you will, leftist policies are leftist policies in the spectrum most people know. Just because you want to call it 'right' doesn't make it so. All the downvotes show is people are being too touchy about how things are.

          [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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            [–]tb87670 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Call it left, call it right, it's just a name. Liberal/leftist policies are shit and you're upset at what people call it. The parties you mentioned are centrist at best, not right. The end result is a country living under leftist/liberal policies. And seriously the idiocy, Hitler has admitted to following Marxism. People just want to say 'fascist right' because someone who didn't know better heard it years ago and it sounds catchier. He is on video saying he's a 'leftist'. Do some research on the subject.

            Ireland may be socially conservative due to the church but economically and in practice the country is very neo-liberal. Ireland is only deemed conservative when compared to the rest of Europe, in actuality it's like my first post that angered you and I will say again it's another leftist country like all the others in Europe. Calling me uneducated on the subject doesn't mean I am nor does it make what I say not true. I got better stuff to do than deal with your hurt fee-fee's and denial.

            [–]nigmondo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Ireland is still run by the Roman Catholic church more or less. We have an apartheid system of education in Northern Ireland, and that's due entirely to the Roman Catholic church

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            By God, I hope they throw the book at that rapacious lustful monster!

            [–]ArkAngelEV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            There IS no point to MRM. The core structures of society have already crumbled, there's no band aid that can fix that. What would basically need to happen is a fierce leader to put up some hammurabi level shit and codify our male to female social contracts.

            As you can imagine, women would NEVER go for it as policies that would strengthen the state would weaken their prerogative. Not to mention that having an OPEN and honest, direct and open dialogue would disgust most women since it would be the absolutely overt language.

            I believe we are in the middle to middle end of the "decline"

            [–]Classical_Liberale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            What a shameful degradation from what Ireland had in the past, in the form of great decentralized polycentric-law system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Irish_law#Substantive_law) aka Brehon laws that had common sense and logic in it.

            [–]squirtmasterd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Irelands fucked when it comes to sex laws, Catholicism at its finest. Boy rape, molestation cover ups and murder are the norm, best to avoid it like the plague.

            [–]Rougepellet -1 points0 points  (4 children)

            Lesson: Don't have sex in Ireland i guess. And these countries wonder why their birth rate is shit. Hope they like Mohammed fucking their daughters, gonna be seeing a lot of Muslim pimps soon.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Once both parties are over 17, it's fine.

            [–]Rougepellet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Yes but the rape laws don't change, though to be honest it's like that all over Europe and the West.

            [–]alpha_n3rd -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            As an irish-catholic I think Ireland is a stupid theocracy

            [–]Rasalom72 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

            How has this survived any supreme court challanges?

            [–]1RPAlternate42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            You have great attention to detail.