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Red Pill TheoryFat and stupid are close kin. (self.TheRedPill)

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Your first step toward being "your best you" is managing your body.

If you are fat, you have to drop that weight. Period. Done.

Fat people make excuses for their fat fucking asses, which makes it easier to invent excuses for their lazy lard-assed slacking in other areas of their lives.

To be fat for an extended period of time is to fail at life.

Drop that fucking weight, you fat fucking lard ass.

No bread, no sugar, no potatoes. Lots of meat and green veg cooked in real butter.

Drop the weight. I mean it.

You know your "friends" who make excuses for your disgraceful man-tits? Notice they have man-tits as well? What is this, a man-boobs contest?

Those people aren't friends. They are the other pigs lined up at the Chinese buffet beside you, pricking their fingers to see if they need any insulin to combat the breaded potato loser-snacks that they piled their plates with.

Are you really trying to win a man-boobs contest?

Coming from a position of pure love, I submit this to you:

Drop the fucking weight. Just do it. You have nothing to lose except your man-tits, and you have everything to gain.

O.k. haters, let's hear you make some excuses so you can help your fat assed brothers stay nice and floppy. Let the whinging begin!


[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

I think we need a new flair for "Tough Love". This kind of short and powerful accountabilty thread is what many of us need to hear from time to time.

[–][deleted] 200 points201 points  (99 children)

In before "but I know a guy with so much game that he weighs 400 pounds and still bangs multiple supermodels a day".

[–]vagbutters 116 points117 points  (82 children)

I always love seeing those posts, and how these types of threads are downvoted en-masse. You can tell that fat blue-pillers or overweight retards who refuse to change their physique on RP are the ones who are upset about the reality of attraction.

No women will prefer a fat guy to one that is shredded. You can't debate this any more than you can debate the wind.

[–]bigtuna45 43 points44 points  (24 children)

I've cut out carbs for the past six weeks. I've gone through one belt and is amazingly the increase in attention I get. I am still 40 lbs away from my goal, I can't fucking wait.

[–]vagbutters 18 points19 points  (10 children)

The last pounds are always the ones that show the most (look up the toilet paper analogy in weight loss)

[–]steakhause 33 points34 points  (9 children)

Called the “paper towel” analogy, this is a brilliant way to really put the whole process of weight loss in a great and healthier perspective: The lesson to be learned is that fat, like paper towels, comes off in sheets. When you are heavy, you are big around. And when you are big around, that fat is spread over a MUCH larger area - just like that outside towel sheet.

The closer you get to the lean you, the more each lost pound of fat shows, because it is spread over a smaller area. While the outside sheet may only cover 1 layer of the roll, the inside sheet may go around 4 times. That last sheet looks like it gives you 4 times the results of the first sheet, but in reality, the results are the same - your perception is just different!

[–]interestedplayer 9 points10 points  (7 children)

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What is this?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

If you are near single digit fat percentages while excising regularly you should probably not cut calories.

[–]vagbutters 0 points1 point  (3 children)

This is because with decreasing bodyfat %, your TDEE goes down and your body increasingly tries to prevent you from losing more weight (this is when you get close to single fat percentage).

Not only that, but your tendency to lose muscle at larger caloric deficits also increases. This is why you have to slow down and keep your calories slightly up when you're getting closer to your goal weight (albeit with adequate protein levels).

[–]showdownhero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is only true in the sense of metabolic adaption from long term caloric deficit, you're TDEE does not go down as you lower your bodyfat in fact it's the opposite. The more muscular you are the more calories you burn

[–]dudeguymanthesecond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The closer you get to the lean you, the more each lost pound of fat shows, because it is spread over a smaller area.

Eh. Most fat loss isn't noticeable because there's still fat underneath it. The last pounds matter because you can actually start seeing muscle.

[–]MMQ42 4 points5 points  (9 children)

Completely cut out carbs? Do you feel like shit? Are you lifting? It's kinda hard to believe you still have 40lbs to lose and in six weeks you're suddenly getting extra female attention. Hope I'm wrong, congrats on the weight loss.

[–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The attention goes up because of your overall behavior / body language. Not because of your "new look". Good mental health (not talked about enough) shows, women can see this better than men can. Better diet, better brain.

I am doing Keto to get over a weight loss plateau. Yes I lift, heavily, 4 days on , one day off. Do I feel like shit, no, not anymore. (50 grams of Carb, MAX per day)

Sugar is thee most addictive drug on the planet. Fix the culture in your stomach, you help your brain.

If you are starting out, the first 6 weeks can seem like the universe flipped on its head. Depending on your level of obesity, one can easily drop 20lbs in six weeks by cutting out shit foods and do some light excercise. (much of it water loss)

For many guys, 20lbs = 1 to 2 notches on the belt/waistline. New pair of pants, better attitude. Proper fitting shirt, again, new attitude.

[–]MMQ42 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Personally keto didn't really work for me as I focus on powerlifting and I need the athletic performance that carbs provide and am comfortable at 15-17% bodyfat. Right now I eat about 180-200g carbs from good sources and have been able to control my urges.

[–]Swallowed_the_pill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I can imagine that the difference between being looked at with disgust and being aknowlegded as a human being is a pretty huge swing for a lot of post extremely obese people.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can tell you, I used to be fat, as I approached normal range (but bigger) people treated me way different. I wasn't getting attention persay, but not being immediately disregarded felt like a huge change. I still want to trim another 20.

[–]valdirtheblue 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I've met women who insist that: 'too much muscle is off putting' 'muscle isn't everything' 'I prefer my man to have fat on him' 'I like a cute belly!'

I sit there with a smug grin because I know they are talking utter shit. Ripped and sweet creates more tingles than a dad body.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What they didnt mention is he has to be very handsome

[–]FractalFactorial 19 points20 points  (10 children)

You'd think fat chicks would have that preference, but in today's society even they think they're entitled to something better. Especially with whales like Tes Holiday and idiots forwarding the HIGH TEST meme.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (3 children)

Women do not have preferences.

An example: All women think they have a preference for tall guys. That's laughable. They apparently assume that some woman out there has a "preference" for short guys. Nope. It's a biological imperative for women to choose high value males. It's always been this way... it's just that before the prolific spreading of obesity there were very few women who couldn't get with Chad.

Edit: What is the 'High Test meme'?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There's a reason fetishes are niche. Because they by definition are what is astray from the norm.

[–]Fnaut3187 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Tes Holiday

Man! Didn't know such models exist! Why do people tolerate things like "plus size models"? What is the kind of example we are setting to our future generations telling them being fat is okay?

[–]adam_varg 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Models?

I am not native, but in my language we dont call swamp pigs wrapped in monstrous sized human clothes models..

[–]iwanttoracecars 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is it bad that I could tell?... just by her name.

[–]adam_varg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is.

Morbidly obese woman who cant even stand up on her own. One of her tattoo is pig.

She get some "modeling" jobs and media coverage because her face isnt ugly and doesnt carry fat.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Exactly right, girls will rarely go with the fat looking guy over the man who is ripped, even if the ripped one has considerably less muscle mass, which is quite rare. Most fat fucks are simply that, fat fucks. Game can only help so much.

I don't make excuses, I know my belly is too big and I'm dealing with it.

[–]Eastuss 6 points7 points  (4 children)

There's still some reality with the fat dude getting the girls... Fat and body muscles are the only physical traits you can change, if you're small or have a womanly face, you have to rely on other things to raise your SMV, just like the fat dude getting the girls?

But I believe that fat dude getting all the girls is of the "bear" kind, IE tall, fat and muscular, the big tall guy that nobody wants to mess with. We're not designed to be lean, in nature fat is a sign of high survivability and strength, and so, it should be attractive to women. But of course, we know few of these, we know more about the lazy fat ones.

[–]Mckallidon 8 points9 points  (2 children)

You can't debate attraction. You can however debate the wind. That's why meteorology is never exact. TRP is always on point.

[–]vagbutters 22 points23 points  (1 child)

You can however debate the wind.

Seems that you didn't understand the meaning of the analogy at all.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

" how man time can a man turn his head and present that he just doesn't see"

[–]PlanB_pedofile 41 points42 points  (2 children)

In before "but I know a guy with so much game that he weighs 400 pounds and still bangs multiple supermodels a day".

You wanna know how? He's black, raps, and sells drugs.

Gold chains and rolls of $100s. (Wealth is makeup for men. Stylin clothes is advertising "im somebody, im worth somethin")

When a girl asks "Biggy D, can you do me a favor? Pretty puhleeze " with a pouty winky

His response is "Hoe, I don't see u suckin this dick. Favors are not free."

Pretty much the 400lb guy demonstrates power, value, resources, game, direct transaction, zero white knighting, puts himself on the pedestal before any woman.

All sidebar material folks.

Don't have the above? then lose the weight

[–]church_on_white 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Point taken BUT why would anyone want to be a Biggy D?

[–]FDFGate1989 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Where are the Patrice O'neal lovers when you need them?

[–]RedDeadCred 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Famous person who practiced game for a living, still regularly talked about how hard it is being fat and getting women.

[–]EvigSoeger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In before "it's not fair that my metabolism isn't fast/I'm not an ectomorph"

Boo hoo, cry me a river. The exact same thing goes for ectomorphic men, except flipped on its head. While you have to suck it up, exercise more and eat less, we have to suck it up, exercise less and eat more. You can lose 20 pounds in a month, if you put your mind to the task. My greatest victory yet is putting on 4 pounds of muscle in 6 months. Sure, the gains come quicker, but it's much more of an uphill battle.

[–]VanillaVeku 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if that's true, I take this post to be more about self improvement and health rather than game

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (1 child)

there is always an exception to the rule, that ain't you though is it?

[–]TheOtherWalternate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why it's referred to as "The exception that proves the rule."

[–]StillRedder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what it's like over at seddit... that sub has gone to shit. For shame.

Game is a billion times easier being swole.

[–]Tuga_Lissabon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If for every extra pound he has an extra million, I'll buy it.

[–]maikcollos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the thing about them is that they are most of the time tall due to being very well nutritioned during their childhood.

[–]Docbear64 65 points66 points  (4 children)

Losing weight really is a solid first step to loving yourself . I have been overweight my whole life , I am the healthiest I have ever been now but still want to lose another 50lbs if I'm honest. I lost 60 lbs last year and I can't explain how strange it was embracing the mindset of loving my body. My entire life I had been ashamed of being fat, I used my humor and intelligence to get most of the women I had been with but largely I disliked the shit out of myself . Dressing and even some basic bathing principles didn't matter to me because it felt like putting makeup on a pig . a fat lump who smells good / is dressed nicely is still a fat lump .

Losing the weight opened up my eyes to a lot of things though at first the only differences I saw were the numbers of the scale slowly going down , then small things here and there, my fat creases disappearing , my pants getting looser , eventually I could see new features of my body that I really liked. I've fallen in love with my biceps .

Being a big guy through most of my life to being a smaller guy that I am now is worlds different, Women notice me more, my dick does feel bigger sometimes, I had ED issues when I was eating shitty food but now my dick pops up like I'm 18 again ( I missed you buddy) , I can go to the store, try something , and even a few times I just knew it wouldn't fit and it fit fantastically.

If you are like me and have always been overweight losing weight is the best gift that you can give yourself . My favorite motivational quote is " It won't be easy , but it will be worth it" . That's been my experience with weight loss , I won't say it was easy , I figured out how to make it work for me though and the pride and self-love losing weight has given me has helped me to foster such strong sense of love and respect for myself .

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Dressing and even some basic bathing principles didn't matter to me because it felt like putting makeup on a pic . a fat lump who smells good / is dressed nicely is still a fat lump .

You nailed something here... you're spot on. I never connected this to myself but I've used that phrase a lot but had never applied it to myself in this way. This is where a fattie says to stop beating myself up, but honestly, I was a fucking pig+sloth and knew that clothes didn't fit me anyways... I just didn't know what clothes that fit looked like and knew through example that I hated fit people. I was not always fat, more so skinny-fat with shit posture, but I indeed gained 50lbs over a short time then lost it and am now in the best shape of my life (for background).

[–]Battle-Scars 108 points109 points  (37 children)

The people I respect the most at the gym are the men and women who are overweight. They are the ones who decided to get off the couch and the Cheetos and at least try.

[–]RGIIIsus 12 points13 points  (21 children)

I get what you mean, but I have more respect for those who have had to the discipline to never let themselves get to that point. Like I have respect for addicts that put in the work to get out, but I respect the ones who never let themselves get to that point more.

[–]vagbutters 85 points86 points  (14 children)

but I have more respect for those who have had to the discipline to never let themselves get to that point.

That's an easy thing to say when you weren't raised with terrible eating habits. When you are taught from childhood to eat garbage, not exercise, and have no self-confidence, you're set back in life bigtime.

What you're saying is just as silly as blaming a blue-pill man for being an indoctrinated fat manchild when he has never had any red pill influence in his life. You need to get a taste of the other side to know that it exists.

[–]Jolly-rancher359 33 points34 points  (9 children)

My mom spends hours on end after work just watching TV. She's gotten fatter and bulkier over the years but today she came on a forty minute walk with me. I'm very concerned about her weight and I want to encourage her to eat healthier or do some exercise but she is legitimately addicted, and I don't know how to get through to her.

Any advice on how to get her to lose the weight? I don't want to lose my mom to an early death. :(

[–]vagbutters 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I can empathize with your position since I'm in the exact same spot as you. Fortunately I've gotten my mom to lose 20 pounds in the past 4 months-- I did this by getting her on a diet plan and encouraging her to stick to it on weekdays, allowing for 2 weekend days where she's allowed to "cheat" and eat at maintenance. You have to sit down and teach her to log her calories; exercise is good, but it's a bonus. Remember that diet is king when it comes to weight loss.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

No real advice but I know how you feel. My mom almost drank herself to death. After years of me pretty much begging her to stop, it took her sister actually drinking herself into an early grave for my mom to give it up. Sometimes it takes a big shock for someone to realize what they are doing to themselves. Just being available to go for a walk with her and reminding her how much fun it is to get outside may be all it takes. Change takes time.

[–]church_on_white 5 points6 points  (1 child)

My mom was put on ADHD meds and it's changed her life in terms of weight trouble.

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[–]slay_it_forward 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I said a long time ago for all you fat fucks to go keto and all I got was shit for it.

[–]Bwaaarp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

12 months ago i would have been the dumb fat fuck giving you shit for it. sorry about that. keep up the good fight.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 28 points29 points  (19 children)

I had a busy day at work last week and didn't get a chance to eat lunch. I probably went about 12 hours without eating. I was definitely hungry, but it wasn't the end of the world.

It got me thinking about how insane it is that people think they need to have a full stomach 24/7. I'm pulling this number out of my ass, but I'd say that 90% of the people who ever lived never had their stomach full for more than a few days at a time - and if they did eat their fill, it was because they had spent hours busting their ass hunting or foraging or harvesting.

[–]Cenki 18 points19 points  (10 children)

this dude I know who is totally a mayo monster I gave him a plan to cut calories by giving him a strict diet that I had used to cut. It involves a quest bar for breakfast, a 6 inch subway sub for lunch made of turkey or chicken, and holy fuck before I even got to dinner he is arguing that nobody can eat just a 6 inch subway sandwich. He said "if I don't get the 12 im going to go hungry". I kept calling him an idiot asshole. Then he started fighting on no chicken or turkey.

I realized that you can't save fats.

[–]PM_me_your_fistbump 9 points10 points  (8 children)

"if I don't get the 12 im going to go hungry"

Then what? So you're going to be hungry. Be hungry.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Hunger is an alert. Not a command

[–]cuntweiner 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Seems obvious right? Being hungry is literally how you lose weight. There's no trick that makes you feel full while eating a deficit. You just get used to hunger.

[–]Dr_Villain 6 points7 points  (3 children)

You don't have to be hungry though. A high fiber and high protein diet will keep most people feeling satisfied while eating under their TDEE.

[–]IDefyAxioms 4 points5 points  (2 children)

See, this is the part that I have issue with. If you're actively hungry then you're missing some macronutrient because your diet isn't balanced the way it needs to be.

You can't study, work, etc. when you're missing a key nutrient and your body isn't getting what it needs to function optimally.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That only helps so much. At some point You will hit a wall in progress if you won't ever let yourself ignore hunger and push through.

Our bodies are evolved to not let go of fat without a fight.

[–]Dr_Villain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it could be, but it can also be poor diet planning. Short chain carbohydrates are metabolized faster than long chain ones or other macronutrients, so naturally you'll get hungry sooner eating potatoes than eating quinoa. Not saying potatoes are bad, just that they are metabolized faster. Also there's more fiber in quinoa which helps you feel full for longer.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This. The number one block to me cutting was this mental block of not wanting to be hungry. Then I started intermittent fasting plus low carb and I've dropped 40 lbs in 3 months.

No matter how you skew your diet towards filling foods (protein, fiber, complex carbs) it only helps so much. At some point you are going to feel hungry and you're going to have to deny yourself.

[–]TheOtherWalternate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I used t be the same way. Full 12 inch sub and my brain was telling me I need more. Now 115lbs down and halfway through a 6 inch sub and I'm almost full. What gave me the push was doing a 16/8 intermittent fasting regimen. That helped me get used to be hungry and realizing it is not a bad thing.

[–]Mckallidon 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Most Americans don't know what hunger really is. I laugh at the bros talking about it when they're cutting. Go buy a homeless man lunch, you'll see fucking hungry.

[–]interestedplayer 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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What is this?

[–]offthebeatmeoff 25 points26 points  (14 children)

I hate the stereotype of the smart well read fat guy. Being fat is the dumbest thing you can do. Cardiovascular health is directly connected to brain health. You're brain is always sucking in constant amounts of blood and is the biggest consumer of calories in your body (pound for pound). Having good cardiovascular health will improve brain function. Exercise has also been show to the formation of neurons in the hippocampus leading to the idea that exercise can improve memory.

You have over 100 million neurons in your gut. The enteric nervous system is massive. Over 50% of dopamine and serotonin is stored there. The connections you're enteric system has to your brain is massive. Treat it well and eat right. If you love yourself then take care of yourself. No one else can do it for you.

[–]Docbear64 8 points9 points  (13 children)

Another great point , I always thought I was a smart motherfucker but me on a ketogenic diet is a whole other level . I felt like I took the limitless drug at first there was just so much clarity and it was a lot easier for me to make decisions and weigh decisions against each other . A better heart definitely makes for a better brain .

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    [–]marplaneit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    You reduce your carbohydrates inta to almost 0, that forces the liver to use the ketogenic bodies to distribute energy to the body. There are 3 ways to distribute energy, fatty acids, glucose, and keto bodies. Keto bodies are made off fatty acids... Why do we make keto bodies? Cause fatty acids cannot pass through the hemato-encefalic barrier, so you cannot "feed" the brain. Sugar levels are kept at a minimum metabolizing proteins.

    Unless you have diabetes type 1, don't worry for keto-acidosis as it has negative feedback loop with insulin.

    If you have any question feel free to ask I'm not a doctor, but a med student so it may be helpful.

    [–]offthebeatmeoff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Good for you man. I recently dramatically cut carbs and I'm not going back either. I feel pretty fantastic as well.

    [–]2chazthundergut 19 points20 points  (3 children)

    Well, as a morbidly obese man (300 lbs) I have to say that I agree with most of what you're saying. It is a real problem, and it has certainly had a devastating effect on my (non-esistant) sex life.

    [–]Docbear64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I weighed more than you at one point , all you need is to give yourself a goal even a short term goal . stick to it , log your results and see if you don't find a moderate success. before losing 60 I told myself I would just be happy to lose 10 because up until that point in my life the scale had ALWAYS been going up ... and up ... and up. after losing 10 and making more adjustments slowly I got to 12 , then 15 , and now 60 and I've made plenty of mistakes/ had cheat days / but when I was committed I was fucking unshakable. If I can do it I believe that truly anyone can .

    [–]bigcitytruth 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Cut sugar, add fiber. Download a fitness app to audit your meals and to take charge. Google your daily calories for your goal weight, and the macro ratio that suits you. Learn to cook (hell, even the microwave is okay, as long as you hit your macros). If you can't even do this, then you are hopeless. PS: it's not your thyroid or your parents that made you fat. It's the french fries and beer.

    [–]Bolt_Ironstag 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Yep, used to be obese. Now I'm fat, but not for much longer. My biggest regret is how much of my life I missed out on.

    [–]SeekingTheWay 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Upvoting. Everybody needs to read this. I have lost 4 years of my life being fat. I am disgusted by the person I was.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Good hustle, brother.

    Keep it up!

    [–]yayaja67 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Great post, tough but positive. It's a hard lesson for a lot of us life long fatsos to hear, but an important one. I've been able to drop my BF by around 2-3% in the past year, but I have a long way to.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    TRUTH! TRUTH! TRUTH! My lazy ass has to lose about 30lbs!

    [–]PM_Pics_of_Your_Muff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This is what I needed to hear. Thanks!

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    My dad has always been overweight, even as a kid. I've always been a healthy weight for whatever reason. He's only gotten bigger as he's aged and I'm really worried about his health. He's almost 60 and has probably gained 50 more lbs over the past 10 or 15 years so I would say he's obese now.

    He is convinced that he's always been fat and that's just the way it is. He thinks he's not capable of losing weight. He was also bullied as a kid about it so it's a sensitive subject.

    He doesn't eat breakfast or lunch, ever. He comes home from work and eats 2-3 giantic plates (I'm talking mountains) full of the food my mom makes, a dessert, and snacks on stuff usually while watching tv til he goes to bed. He doesn't exercise minus manual labor at work.

    Is this a lost cause? I would like to convince him to lose weight for his own good but I don't know how to go about it. His doctor is also overweight so I'm afraid he won't push him to lose weight. Any advice would be welcome.

    [–]bigcitytruth 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    The meals are made by your mom. Convince her to make changes.

    [–]LosingMoneyAllDay 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Would you take financial advice from somebody with no money?

    Why does your dad have a fat doctor?

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Because his fat doctor allows him to remain fat

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Omg...its called being curvy /s

    If women can use this, so can men...

    I've had flat out arguments with other about how being fat can endanger your health.

    "Oh, well I'm a big person, but ny doctor says I'm 100% healthy!"

    Let's see them say that when you need emergency surgery and the fat is around the organs they need to get to, guess what?

    Exactly. You only got one body. Take care of it.

    [–]squidracer 22 points23 points  (38 children)

    There's nothing wrong with potatoes

    [–]Fort-Wahnee 14 points15 points  (7 children)

    Yeaaaa I eat shit tons of potatoes and have one of the lowest body fat percentages of anyone I know personally. Baked potatoes all fukin day.

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      [–]squidracer 7 points8 points  (3 children)

      A medium potato has roughly only 110 calories.

      I think the problem is that most people like to throw them in the deep fryer, and then dip them in more carbs

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        [–]squidracer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I put a little butter on it. No biggie.. Calories in calories out.. I've maintained decent six packs eating potatoes.

        Once at a low body fat you almost need carbs.. And potatoes are a good source because of potassium

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          [–]vagbutters 14 points15 points  (27 children)

          The skin of potatoes has some good vitamins/minerals, but it's basically all carbs. Decent as a bulk food, but for diets you'd be wiser to go with protein-fat heavy food items as opposed to a whole potato (assuming you're on a very small calorie budget).

          [–]squidracer 7 points8 points  (17 children)

          Best cut I ever did was eating potatoes.. As long as you don't throw them in the deep fryer they are pretty decent.. Just as good as oatmeal as far as I'm concerned

          [–]Mckallidon 4 points5 points  (11 children)

          Oatmeal is way better than potatoes. Much slower release and it's too hard to overeat oatmeal. I could eat lbs of mashed potatoes and gravy.

          [–]squidracer 8 points9 points  (5 children)

          mashed potatoes and gravy.

          Well who told you to add gravy?? You Canadian or something?

          [–]Mckallidon 4 points5 points  (4 children)

          'Murican! You're thinking Poutine breh. Canadians don't mash their potatoes. You can't dip them in mayo that way lol.

          My grandfather was Canadian. He didn't eat potatoes until he moved to the states. Mostly venison, carrots and turnips. But he lived in East Bumfuck in a cabin without power or running water.

          [–]squidracer 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          I went to Windsor Canada once.. Those fuckers poured gravy on everything..

          First fast food place we went to, "would you like gravy on your French fries sir?"

          "Ummm, seriously?"

          [–]Mckallidon 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          Lol. It's to make up for the fact that their bacon is actually ham lol. Gravy fries are big here in Western NY, but Buffalo is right next to Canada and my city is still relatively close. A lot of Toronto influence here that people don't even realize. Poutine is big around my parts, along with hockey and Canadian beers. I never imagined gravy on mashed wasn't normal elsewhere. It's a very common thing anywhere I have been in the US. Cheeseburgers smothered with gravy used to be a thing here when I was younger lol. But that is nothing. We smother everything with meat where I live.

          If you think that is bad, Rochester NY's culinary gift to the world is "The Garbage Plate". It's a styrofoam box filled with home fries, Mac salad, 2 burgers or hotdogs, and topped with a heaping scoop of "hot sauce", which is Texas chili. Yes, our hot sauce is scoops of cheap greasy ground beef and spices. Just ground beef, onions garlic, and spices lol. It is always made with the cheapest, shittiest, fattiest ground beef. People put that on everything here too. Hotdogs, burgers, fries with cheese and bacon. Anyways, It's like 3lbs of greasy fatty food in a box smothered in more grease. Drunk people love them. They swear it prevents a hangover. I swear you get too sick to notice.

          Many people who eat them get severe abdominal pain and the shits like they're going to die, and are diabeetus as fuck. If you put one in the fridge and let it harden, you can plop it out of the box solid because the grease cements all the little pieces together when it is cold. Eating it is a right of passage for locals and transplants. Many eat it regularly. And yes, people get them with three beef patties and bacon. Or two beef patties and 2 hotdogs lol. With extra hot sauce. After drinking 2000 Cals of cheap shitty Genesee beer. Last I heard most standard "plates" are like 1500 Cals.

          Anyone who isn't getting enough Cals for their muscle growth should just move to Rochester. It's nothing but colleges, bars, restaurants and gyms lol. All people do here is drink, eat and fuck. A "Hots" place in every neighborhood, in every town, on every street. 1500 Cals in a box for $8.

          [–]Elohirnok 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Live in Rochester, can confirm.

          [–]walnut_of_doom 3 points4 points  (4 children)

          Oatmeal tastes like sadness but holy shit is it filling. 1 cup dry is 300 calories but is more satiating than anything short of an equivalent amount of calories in leafy greens.

          [–]Mckallidon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Lol tastes like sadness. I buy this fancier heartier stuff that is ok. Quaker or quick oats suck. Don't even bother. They've been stripped of most nutrition and flavor.

          But yeah they're a powerhouse. I eat oats in the morning as well as yogurt. And I eat yogurt three times a day with oat bran. I've noticed a major improvement in my body since I started eating oats and gave up bread.

          I make mine with goat milk, a very small bit of maple syrup and cinnamon, lots of chopped dates and some chia seeds. I work and shit like a horse! It's a damn meal. And the dates really make up for the sadness lol.

          I also run mine through a blender real quick before I cook it so it's more digestible and I get zero bloat.

          I load my yogurt with oat bran. Incredible shit. That's where most of the nutrition is. Toasted oat bran is also a great substitute for breadcrumbs in many recipes. More flavor and better nutrition.

          Oats are a staple for me. You can toast them to get a lot more flavor from them, but I gave up eventually bc life is short. I'm a chef so I am so over food at this point. I have cooked and eaten amazing shit for so long that I can eat plain lettuce or a bowl of plain spinach as respite lol. I only see food as money or fuel at this point in my life. Bring the sadness lol.

          [–]walnut_of_doom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'll give it a whirl, thanks.

          [–]PM_me_your_fistbump 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Pour your dry oatmeal into a Tupperware, add milk instead of water. Put a little honey on the top, and/or yogurt/peanut butter/fresh fruit. Let it sit overnight in the fridge. Eat in the morning.

          It's called overnight oats, and the process (don't forget toppings!) neutralizes the sadness.

          [–]walnut_of_doom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'll have to give that a try, thanks.

          [–]vagbutters 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          Best cut I ever did was eating potatoes

          Did you measure your muscle mass along the way? I'm interested to hear how much you lost along the way (assuming you weren't getting adequate protein elsewhere).

          [–]squidracer 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          It was a steak and potato diet so I didn't lose much muscle at all

          [–]vagbutters 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          That sounds pretty good, but how much steak were you eating per day? Couldn't have been cheap I imagine.

          [–]squidracer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          About a pound.. I can afford it

          [–]Mckallidon 2 points3 points  (5 children)

          I cannot eat potatoes because I'm sensitive to nightshade plants. I eat a lot of beets and turnips. If people ate beets like potatoes there wouldn't be nearly as much obesity. Once you're already fat you're way more sensitive to the carb addiction and many people cannot keep their spud portions in check. Beets are an incredible recovery food.

          [–]PM_me_your_fistbump 0 points1 point  (4 children)

          Can you make baked beets with butter, cheese, and green onions? Or mashed beets with gravy? Serious question - if it works I'll try it.

          [–]Dr_Villain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Beets with ground beef, broccoli, cream, and blue cheese baked in the oven is absolutely delicious. Replace cream with milk and eggs for a low energy alternative.

          [–]Mckallidon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Gravy yes. At least for me. I like turkey gravy and parsley on them. I eat a lot of beets. Goat cheese, dill, lemon all pair well with beets. It depends on your palette. I eat plain lettuce or spinach and eat plain roasted beets.

          Borscht is the best way to bring them into your diet regularly IMO. You can make a lot to eat all week. A good beef broth, some caramelized onions and carrots and cabbage with dill, garlic and lemon juice garnished with fresh parsley. I also sometimes use a turkey neck broth I make too. I skip the spuds or beans. Skip the tomato like many online recipes IMO. Less is more with Borscht IMO. If you roast the beets and carrots low and slow, and make this soup and purée it, it is heaven, but very time consuming.

          Also. Veggie chips. Slice them thin and cook at 200 degrees until crisp. Beet chips are pretty good this way. Just toss in Olive oil and some salt and pepper before you cook them. Takes a few hours.

          [–]Docbear64 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Don't know about beets but mashed cauliflower when prepared correctly can taste almost as good as mashed potatoes ( i bet especially with gravy) . The only noticeable difference in it is the texture. even the creamiest mashed cauliflower i've had was slightly more grainy than the texture you become used to for mashed potatoes.

          [–]Mckallidon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Roasted cauliflower tastes better IMO. Low and slow with lots of browning. Gets real sweet.

          [–]Endorsed Contributorthelandofdreams 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Sweet potatoes are better I've heard

          [–]PissedPajamas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Truth be told I was 270lbs once and life dramatically improved when I dropped to 185lbs 12% BF, for starters I can look down and see my dick

          [–]ManowaR1488 11 points12 points  (11 children)

          Sugars effects on the brain are similar to cocaine. Some people have addictive personalities and it's just not so easy. Look at the people who struggle with it their whole lives, It's exactly the same as a drug addiction. It's so bad sometimes that these people get depressed and even commit suicide. It's easy to say "put down the fork fatass" when you're not dealing with it everyday and it fucking up almost all aspects of your daily life. It's easy for me to tell a smoker to just PUT DOWN THE CIGARETTE/NEEDLE! when I'm not addicted.

          It's not just an issue of will power for everybody. Sugar is a addictive public health hazard.

          Head on over to /loseit or /progresspics once in a while and read what's written by those who have lost(alot) of weight, the comments supporting them sounds like they're straight out of an AA/Drug addiction support group meeting. They are so happy to have overcome something so challenging in their lives that it's like they won the fucking lottery sometimes.

          [–]stawek 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          Everything is addictive. Stop making excuses.

          If they have "addictive personalities" I advise getting addicted to exercise (yes, it is possible).

          [–]cuntweiner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Today was the first time I went for a run on my rest day, eight days in a row for me, 6 miles a day. I just had to do it though, I needed to get my heart rate pumping and get drenched in sweat. I'm definitely addicted now, and I never would have imagined myself getting to this point when I first started.

          [–]IDefyAxioms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          If you're referring to runner's high, not everyone can actually get that. It's all based on your genetics if those neurotransmitters are hit with those chemicals.

          [–]Eternasphere 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Following my most recent breakup 6 months ago I began hitting the gym. Lost 40 lbs of fat and gained about 12 in muscle. The weight loss is the result of strict diet planning and hitting the stationary bike for 50-150 calories per session for at least 4 days a week.

          My diet consists of a high protein breakfast of sausages eggs and mushrooms, and my dinner is usually fish and potato salad/rice. In between or around these meals is when I try to get the nutrients i'm missing so i'll snack on carrots, broccoli, bananas, etc.

          [–]tedcase 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Does stupid make you fat, or does fat make you stupid?

          [–]rumovoice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          What's wrong with potatoes? I thought they are healthy

          [–]OXHockey23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          What's worse is that in my country the taxpayers have to pay for the sweaty feckless whale-people's medical bills to prevent them from succumbing to their 10 Gregs sausage rolls a day habit.

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          [–]Akela_hk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Eat less. Don't listen to them when they tell you not to finish your food. I am born to immigrants, well educated, but eating habits are almost totalitarian. When I was younger "it's time for dinner" meant "get the fuck over here and eat with the family or we'll feed you to the pigs." Turns into eating when not hungry. I'm in my late 20's now and I control when and how much I eat. Also sugar is basically crack. You WILL eat it, but do everything you can to avoid it and it will work wonders for you. Processed and low fat food is also infamous for sugar content. Try to avoid it

          [–]autoNFA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Eat less of what they give you. Push them for vegetables and healthy options in carbs and protein if they don't buy them.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          being fat is contagious. figure out your macros for a cut, and start counting religiously. if you're sitting at the table and they pressure you to eat more, say no. if they still pressure you, say you have to go to the bathroom and play on your phone while shitting.

          [–]stawek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Everytime you get your dinner leave half the carbs on the plate. Eat all the protein/veggies.

          If there isn't enough protein on your plate regularly, get your allowance and buy a tub of protein shake - if your meal has less than 20g protein (roughly 100g of lean meat) have a scoop to cover the deficit.

          Hit the gym, hard. Focus on compound lifts full body workouts 3 times a week, cardio on the remaining days. I advise to join any martial arts gym as the way to do cardio - it can be boxing, bjj, kickboxing, anything really. It will work wonders for your body and confidence levels.

          [–]mancozbi 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          I'm not a fan of TRP (women, even feminists, aren't the enemy), but this post is first rate. Alpha male fights the fat.

          [–]GC0W30 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          (women, even feminists, aren't the enemy)

          We don't think they're the enemy, aside from the anger phase guys who don't really get it.

          We view women's nature as equivalent to weather.

          Their nature is there, it is what it is, and it is just something we can work choose to engage with productively by having appropriate responses.

          Why get mad at something that's part of nature?

          I don't hate sharks, but I know that being in some places at some times doing some things is a good way to get shark bites.

          I don't hate weather, but I still wear heavy clothes when the temperature is low and I'll be outside for an extended period.

          Same with women. They're not the enemy, you just have do things that will result in positive outcomes with them... or not bother if they're not a fit for your life.

          You reference feminists as not being the enemy. They're not quite the enemy, except politically. Aside from politics, the wise path is not to engage because they bring nothing positive to the table justifying the high effort involved in romance with them most of the time. They're needlessly hard to interact with positively.

          I still wish them well, I still hope they enjoy their days, I'm just not getting close because me interacting with them isn't going to make anyone happy.

          [–]LidlKwark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Why are you here? Just curious.

          [–]AnjaJutta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          There is no need for "haters" or "excuses". Sugar is an addictive substance, measured to be 8 times stronger than cocaine. A fat person is an addict as much as a smoker or an alcoholic. Battling addiction is difficult but not something that can't be done. What personally helped me shed tons of pounds and brought me to a good place in my life was taking up dancing and cycling.

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

          Guys, you can eat potatoes. They're pretty good for you actually, and great on a budget. Everything is spot on.

          [–]bigcitytruth 3 points4 points  (5 children)

          They're good but a bit carby and have little fiber. Beans are a better side, and have a ton more nutrients.

          [–]OneInAZillion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Would you mind making another one of these except instead of "fat", you replace it with "skinny as a god damned twig" ?

          [–]Akela_hk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Excellent post and on point. I disagree with the potato thing though. As long as it fits your macros for a caloric deficit, you'll be fine. I've lifted for years and have gone off and on with proper dieting. The quality of pussy slain is directly proportional to your fatness, I know from experience.

          [–]onehardtard 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Any advice on getting the mind set? I'm a fat ass and I just lose motivation easily. I don't exactly have money for a gym membership and it's kind of hard to find time with two kids. But I really want to lose 100lbs. I just keep making some excuse. I'm also horrendously addicted to porn. I started reading TRP posts because I wanted to change but wanting to and doing is two different things.

          [–]Bigcasanova 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Start by just watching what you eat , if you are more than 100 lbs overweight just go ahead and drop all processed foods , try to stick with just meat and vegetables , and if you can manage it ( you can) walk for 30 mins to an hour a day . Depending on how overweight you are the first 30-40 lbs will drop off quickly , then it gets a little more challenging but also way more rewarding .

          [–]SeekingTheWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          By cooking yourself instead of eating in restaurants/fastfoods, you not only save tremendous amount of money but also directly control the healthiness of your diet.

          Then use the saved money for gym membership.

          [–]Bigcasanova 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I'd take this even a step further. This applies not only to the lazy fucks with man boobs ( disgusting ), but guys like me . I have nice big shapely pecs and big arms ... and a gut to go with it . All that muscle isn't going to jack shit for you if you aren't lean . So whether you are a skinny fat couch potato , or a fat weightlifter , drop the Weight .

          [–]yummyFunTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Ever since I lost weight (went Primal, which is a offshoot of Paleo) I've been happier and less annoyed by small dumb shit.

          I went from 240lbs at 5'10" to 175lbs with just walking and dieting. Cut the sugar, shop in the meats/veggies, maybe have a dark chocolate bar (80% cacao) for something sweet.

          I was 31, and by 32 I went from that fat whiny asian nerd to a slim asian nerd with a new body fit wardrobe and a better attitude (currently 36). Girls started talking to me again (I was 185 lbs in college) and I liked being me.

          I wish my current roommates would make the change that OP is saying. They'll cook tons of food (Gravy N Biscuits, Lasagna, Mexican Corn) then get bored and leave leftovers in the fridge. There are literally 3 weeks worth of food that just gets left in the fridge to waste because they become "bored" by what's in the fridge.

          If I say "you should cut down on sugar" the whining, moaning and excuses just flows like shit from a sewage spout. The mindset of making excuses for shitty environment/lifestyle is ingrained too deep.

          If it was just that, I wouldn't mind, but it spills over into daily chores or just keeping the place clean. They are both fucking slobs. The living room and their rooms are just stuffed with Man Child nerd toys (i.e. figures, legos, etc) and piles of clothes strewn across the floors. I rarely hang out at the house other than my room because of the "Toy Encroachment" happening everywhere. The idea of even having casual FBs or even actual friends over seems horrifying to me because of just how gross the place is.

          I don't even want to talk about the bathroom. Being the only person who even cleans is ridiculous.

          The few times I've hung out with them outside for walks (down by Pike's Place or the Waterfront in Seattle), it feels like it takes 3 times longer to do anything because of how slow they are on foot.

          My point is that being fat is misery, for your friends, for any girl that wants to be with you and for yourself. If you're tired of being miserable, than fucking do something about it and stop making excuses. Fix your life.

          [–]chris_sydney 3 points4 points  (5 children)

          Second that. Losing fat is not hard.

          [–]vagbutters 24 points25 points  (2 children)

          As a guy who lost over 100 pounds a few years back, I strongly disagree-- losing fat is very hard, since it requires a complete lifestyle re-haul. Most guys who are fat were raised with shitty eating habits (finish your plate mentality, eating junk food instead of a proper meal, etc.).

          It's easy to say something like this when you were raised with good eating habits. It's a lot easier to be healthy as an adult when you've had the same general lifestyle most of your life. This is not to make excuses for overweight/obese men, since, like it or not, you need to lose the fat no matter what.

          [–]landon042 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          many bros on the gym subs and steroid subs agree.

          gaining muscle is harder than losing fat.

          I want to gain? I put in hell of effort in the gym and eat loads.

          losing fat? I just eat fewer calories. the cravings blow but it's doable.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Why so much meat ? that isn't good either . Im not fst and completely aggree with your Statement , but too much meat is neither healthy nor " manly " . Thats also a lazy way of thinking , learn about cooking and start to prepare yourself healthy Food with less meat and more diversity . I've recently started to follow a strict diet : as little sugar as possible , no nicotine , coffeine , alcohol , only one meal with meat a week , only water , Tea and juice with 100% fruit , a wide variety of vegetables , fruits , nuts , berries , a little bi t of milk products . Thats enough , I've bought myself a book called " no meat athlete " which has great recipes and honestly ive never felt better , i get up earlier in the morning without being sleepy at all , work out more , i am just more productive , i have much more energy compared to what I used to have before . Learning how to cook is fun , it makes the whole ordeal less of a chore . Also im no native speaker , just to clear that up .

          [–]Tron10000 0 points1 point  (6 children)

          OK BUT IS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO CUT OUT CARBOHYDRATES?

          [–]1grubek 3 points4 points  (4 children)

          No, but it helps.

          When it comes to weight, a calorie is a calorie not matter where it comes from, but not all calories FEEL the same. With the same amount of calories fat and protein will make you feel fuller than carbohydrates. Therefore since you feel fuller you'll tend to eat less calories if you eat more fat and protein than carbohydrates.

          [–]ihateporkbuns 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          what's your opinions on being overweight (not obese)

          [–]LabRat314 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          What's your opinion on being mediocre?

          [–]flavourrush 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          who cares what his opinion is! what is yours? do you need an excuse or what? go make some sports and eat appropriate. you are sabotaging yourself

          [–]billsmashole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I won't hate on this post. Fat people need to lose weight. Most are lazy from what I've noticed, and even if they're not, special considerations must always be made for them in life. There is no excuse to be obese.

          [–]GreenDiamond1337 0 points1 point  (5 children)

          What if your too skinny or underweight, that is often never talked about?

          [–]omanisherin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Optimally you want a low body fat percentage and visible muscle mass. If you are already skinny, you've won half the battle.

          [–]SeekingTheWay 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          Then just lift like crazy and eat a lot.

          [–]SeekingTheWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Having experienced both sides of the spectrum, I wholeheartly confirm that this OP of a gentleman is 100% right.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Low body fat is key for facial aesthetics. I see many people thinking that lifting will only get a super muscled body.

          First, for the average man is very hard to get super muscled unless you get steroids.

          Second, lifting is the best exercise to promote fat loss and have many heatlh benefits.

          Third, if you are lean, ideally 10-12% body fat you're face will be more attractive. There are guys thinking they are ugly when the truth is their face are covered in useless fat!

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I read this in Shia Labouf's's voice and JUST DO IT!

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          No bread, no sugar, no potatoes. Lots of meat and green veg cooked in real butter.

          As I am edging on destitution, I am finding I get 2k calories of food a day pretty cheap... 2lb things of almonds/mixed nuts (you want more almonds than nuts but they're more expensive than peanut filler). 18x locally laid eggs. 2-for-1 cheese blocks. Whole chickens. That's keto right there, because I am poor but still lifting. I lost 50lbs on Keto years ago, habits stayed. Check out -r-ketotreats even if you don't follow the diet.

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