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MetaI've been banned from another sub I never posted to for being a "supporter" of a "hate group" -- redpill -- "thought police" mods are thriving on Reddit (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by TominatorXX

Read from bottom up, old to new (mine is indented): from IrbyTremor [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent just now

OK then go defend Nazi's while never ever questioning your priorities, assumed entitlement to a platform and your complete misappropriation of the concept of free speech.

And then don't contact us anymore

re: you've been banned

from TheYellowRose [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent just now

It doesn't trouble us at all, we have a duty to protect our users and maintain the safe space. Bye. to yellowmix [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent 3 minutes ago

Does the "thought police" aspect of what you're doing trouble you? I don't "support" any sub on Reddit. I read some, I comment on a few.

I'm a Jew but even I would defend a Nazi's right to post his or her thoughts. That's why our founders fought a War and passed a First Amendment.

There are NO bad ideas. John Milton said it better than I can:

“Let her and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter?”

― John Milton, Areopagitica

re: you've been banned from yellowmix [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent a minute ago

I searched for a post or comment under my name to your sub to no avail. I have never posted here, according to Reddit's search function.

File a bug report with Reddit. It is supposed to be impossible to get a ban notice unless you have accrued karma in this subreddit. You can see the Reddit code that deals with this here: https://github.com/reddit/reddit/commit/52b4be07499e7746517c15e41735c9586092df05

theredpill is a hate subreddit, the only question is if you support them. They have been invading this community and making it unsafe for our community members, so we are taking preventative measures. As you claim to have never posted here, there is no material change to your situation.

re: you've been banned

I searched for a post or comment under my name to your sub to no avail. I have never posted here, according to Reddit's search function.

2 Be that as it may, I have never posted anything offensive to your sub. So your ban on me is curious to say the least.

As to your second point, I do occasionally, rarely, post to red pill. Like any other sub, I find some of their post informative and many others crap. Just like this sub and most others. But do I understand you correctly that you are banning people from your sub merely for posting to another sub? That you will ban someone who posts on Redpill regardless of how useful or thoughtful his post is to your sub or either one?

from yellowmix [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent an hour ago theredpill continues to invade this and other subreddits, spreading their hateful messages. We are automatically banning any supporter of this hate group.

If you received a ban notice, you must have posted, commented, or voted in this subreddit sometime, anytime, in the past, as recorded by Reddit. Everyone else does not get the ban notice. If you do not support theredpill, we are willing to discuss and unban.

I've been banned but I've never actually posted to the sub. Could you explain? Thanks. Did I do something that I"m not aware of?

Interesting. Why? I've never even posted there. Could you share a reason? Thanks.

subreddit message via /r/offmychest/ sent 12 hours ago

you have been banned from posting to /r/offmychest: Off My Chest | What you've been holding in for too long.


[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal 260 points261 points  (36 children)

"unsafe"

They keep using that word, but I don't think it means what they think it means...

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    [–]thedude122487 118 points119 points  (14 children)

    If they're so convinced that their Blue Pill beliefs are right, they should be encouraging Red Pillers to post. The absurdity of our beliefs would be exposed immediately and nobody would take us seriously. Isn't that what they want? So what exactly is it that those mods are so afraid of that they are banning people simply for posting in /r/theredpill?

    I don't know about you guys, but one of the reasons I started reading the Red Pill is because of people on Reddit making a fuss about how "dangerous" it is. When people call ideas that I don't understand "dangerous", that's what makes me want to fully investigate them. The systematic censoring of TRP ideas has probably caused more people to swallow the red pill than our Blue Pill SJW friends would ever care to admit. The best thing to do to stop the spread of an idea is ignore it.

    [–]1User-31f64a4e 76 points77 points  (1 child)

    We are dangerous. We speak the truth.
    The truth is very dangerous, as it upsets anything built on a sketchy foundation.

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      [–]srtor 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      fucking mods are useless in some of those subs. 'protecting innocents' really? Any censoring is not protecting but is furthering own/group agenda. Loser SJW nazis.

      [–]nomad-oz 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      People will forgive any lie you say about them, no matter how outrageous, but they will never forgive the truth.

      [–]2renzy77 25 points26 points  (2 children)

      If they're so convinced that their Blue Pill beliefs are right, they should be encouraging Red Pillers to post. The absurdity of our beliefs would be exposed immediately and nobody would take us seriously.

      From Paul Graham's essay, What You Can't Say:

      No one gets in trouble for saying that 2 + 2 is 5, or that people in Pittsburgh are ten feet tall. Such obviously false statements might be treated as jokes, or at worst as evidence of insanity, but they are not likely to make anyone mad. The statements that make people mad are the ones they worry might be believed. I suspect the statements that make people maddest are those they worry might be true.

      If Galileo had said that people in Padua were ten feet tall, he would have been regarded as a harmless eccentric. Saying the earth orbited the sun was another matter. The church knew this would set people thinking.

      [–]Jimmy_Big_Nuts 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      This is not just a cliche - they are worried about us triggering or 'trolling' them with our opposing views. 'Safe space' refers to women's refuges and rape huts and so on. It's where mentally traumatised people go to rock backwards and forwards. They don't want us there because we are truthful, blunt and utilitarian and masculine. Their sub is about examining emotions and solving nothing. TBH, a sub like that should be called r/safespace-for-whining-weak-ass-bitches, surely?

      [–]TominatorXX[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

      This is my favorite quote:

      “Let her and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter?”

      ― John Milton, Areopagitica

      [–]Squeezymypenisy 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      If you looked at the list of mods, only 2 are still active and both are major SJWs. Also, does being banned mean you can't subscribe and the comment function is disabled? I think I was just banned, but I can still see the sub, but the comment light flashes red.

      edit: Yea everyone who commented on here is slowly getting banned, but I didn't get a message.

      [–]TominatorXX[S] 18 points19 points  (11 children)

      I know. Like how can ideas? Even "bad" ones be "unsafe"?

      Is the goal conformity?

      [–]Day_man2020 18 points19 points  (5 children)

      Yes that's exactly the point. Also as an electrical lineman calling any words that come out of someone's mouth "unsafe" is laughable. Get one of these SJW cunts in the field for a day they'd probably go home in an ambulance or a hearse. There are unsafe things, words ain't one of them. It's so sad how we've let ourselves go as a society, no country for old men.

      [–]TheGurw 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      Slightly off-topic, but as an electrician who has done some sporadic lineman work, I have nothing but respect for you and others in your trade. Nothing says "balls" like putting your life in the hands of a flimsy padlock several kilometers away from you while you work on a line that carries 380kVa or more.

      Or the ironworkers/tower erectors on the 500kVa line in south Alberta, the one where they separate the tower holding live 380kVa lines, helicopter lifts the upper sections of the tower and they put in the new section that will hold the 500kVa lines. Balls. Balls everywhere.

      [–]ioncloud9 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      bad ideas can be unsafe. Take the antivaxers, for example. A very bad idea, easily spread like wildfire, and is directly responsible for the resurgence of these diseases that were formerly wiped out. Humans can be dumb, panicky, dangerous animals.

      [–]denart4 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Words are their only power to corrupt you.

      [–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (10 children)

      Does the "thought police" aspect of what you're doing trouble you? I don't "support" any sub on Reddit. I read some, I comment on a few.

      It doesn't trouble us at all, we have a duty to protect our users and maintain the safe space. Bye.

      It's actually startling just how close to some authoritarian dystopian novel this reads.

      [–]cdnz0mbie 35 points36 points  (0 children)

      Right, instead of "a safe space" he chose to use "the safe space". Creepy.

      [–]NeopolitanAfterglow 264 points265 points  (42 children)

      Consider this a valuable exercise in TRP. When shitty people ban you from their life, they're doing you a favor. Embrace that shit.

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        [–]the_number_2 43 points44 points  (9 children)

        And isn't it supposed to be a judgement-free area where you get just say anything to, I don't know, get if off your chest?

        I have seen actual racist posts there, ones that get upvoted and even have supportive comments, and that's cool, but being subbed to TRP is the line?

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          [–]whitepeoplecrazy 13 points14 points  (1 child)

          TRP obviously strikes a chord with the mod, so he/she sticks the proverbial fingers in the ears and screams "Na Na Na Boo Boo".

          [–]Squeezymypenisy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Its only 2 mods still active too. From what I've found a crazy communist and a strange black guy.

          [–]my_redpill_account 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Judgement free as long as you what you're getting off your chest is what others approve of.

          [–]the_red_scimitar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          None of those other things violate the Feminist Imperative, so feminists of this stripe (because I believe there is a rational, RP-compatible form of "feminism"), including the bulk of beta males and similar SJWs, are all too happy to live in their echo chamber.

          [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I have seen actual racist posts there, ones that get upvoted and even have supportive comments, and that's cool, but being subbed to TRP is the line?

          Women are a privileged group that have the unique ability to masquerade as a persecuted one.

          No matter what you think of affirmative action, black violence, etc., minorities actually do have it bad. Whether you should be obligated to care about that, though, is a different issue altogether.

          Meanwhile, when you evaluate women under the same criteria, you'll find the opposite results. Women are far less likely to be given harsh prison sentences, profiled by the police, skipped over for jobs due to discrimination, arouse general suspicion or fear in the average person, etc. when compared to men.

          As far as analogies of race and gender go, women are the gender-equivalent of white people, and men are the blacks/non-whites.

          The only difference is that the sympathy gap between women and men is much larger than the one between whites and blacks.

          [–]flyingwolf 13 points14 points  (5 children)

          I have never posted, heard of, contributed or voted on that sub, in fact yesterday was the first I had heard of the sub. I am banned.

          [–]happilydamaged 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          I've never heard if that sub also, and I definitely don't want to go there now. I hope I also get banned for this comment. We don't need to be bothered by them, we have real problems to deal with.

          [–]NeopolitanAfterglow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          I don't think I would have any way of knowing if I was banned. I never look at my "inbox" because it's spammed with hundreds of message notifications, and I have no interest in posting in any other reddit, so I never try.

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            [–]flyingwolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Yea I never got a message either. Just thought I would try to post "you are banned".

            [–][deleted]  (17 children)

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              [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (1 child)

              There was a meme posted on adviceanimals not too long ago. One of the "Actual Advice Mallard" ones that said, "If you loan someone money and never hear from them again, it was worth the money."

              Of course that largely depends on the amount, but I'm good with $50 too.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 12 points13 points  (3 children)

              I heard somewhere once "If you loan money to a friend, be prepared to lose them both." Wise words.

              [–]NeopolitanAfterglow 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              I loaned $600 to a "friend" several years ago. Actually, he was my ball coach, and he promised to pay me back within 6 weeks. Well, one excuse led to another, and a year and half went by without seeing a penny returned. The relationship got very strained, and he seemed to be treating me with less and less respect, almost disdain at times. It reached a point where I almost abandoned hope of getting repaid. I just couldn't take feeling like a pussy.

              I eventually flipped out on him and told him how things will be. I said I want $100 back by the next game, and he would pay my fees (roughly $100 every six months). He'd never heard me pissed off before in my life.

              I managed to get $520 of my $600 back, and we're better buddies than ever. The remaining $80 doesn't seem to mean much anymore, but we still talk about it now and then.

              [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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              What is this?

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Adam Carolla talks about this all of the time. Once he made it, all his high school/construction buddies would ask for "loans." If he asked for the money back, there were excuses. If he denied their next request for money, he was a fucking douchebag rich-guy who'd "changed."

              [–]NeopolitanAfterglow 39 points40 points  (6 children)

              Uhh I'd rather just keep the $50 actually.

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                [–]648262[🍰] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

                You wouldn't spend $50 to get rid of shitty people in your life?

                [–]1rlh1271 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                Nah. There's other ways to find out who's a shitty person without capital investment.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                you're not wrong though this seems like the easiest one

                [–]laere 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                This is why I never let my sister ever borrow money from me again.

                One fucking time I lend her 50 dollars to pay a bill (later found out she spent it on booze). Never saw it. No matter how much I'd bring it up.

                I refused ever since to ever help her with anything ever again. Fucking siblings.

                Lend my dad or my mom money, hey no problem, get it back in less than a week. ALWAYS. And then my parents wonder why I never talk to that fucking parasite.

                [–]TominatorXX[S] 23 points24 points  (3 children)

                Absolutely. I'd already unsubscribed from the sub for being boring. But how hilarious to be banned from posting from a sub I NEVER posted on?

                [–]1sailorJery 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                right? there's that popular saying from that one fantasy show on HBO that would apply, something to the effect of, "if you cut out a man's tongue you're telling everyone you fear what he has to say."

                [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                there's that popular saying from that one fantasy show on HBO that would apply, something to the effect of, "if you cut out a man's tongue you're telling everyone you fear what he has to say."

                Yep, Tyrion Lannister from Game of Thrones. I call him "miniature Machiavelli."

                [–]1xwm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                But how hilarious to be banned from posting from a sub I NEVER posted on?

                Almost as hilarious as me getting banned from a sub I've never even viewed before. I only knew it existed because someone else mentioned it in some comment I read once.

                [–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Nonsense - they are trying to attract as much mainstream foot traffic as possible. Can't keep growing w/ Reddit gold alone.

                So by growing mainstream traffic, they have to quell any notions of "unsavory" groups that the MSM is not used to reporting about.

                On top of that Reddit had a past even before redpill.

                So they have to "clean up their act" if they want growth. Probably if they want VC money as well. Unlikely, but possible.

                (Also, Ellen Pao. Smaller extent but still worth mentioning).

                [–]ToshiroOzuwara 402 points403 points  (38 children)

                Censorship is an admission of defeat in an argument. It is a terrible long term strategy.

                [–]thedude122487 216 points217 points  (27 children)

                Censoring opposing views is fundamentally just an Appeal to Force logical fallacy, eg. "Your wrong because I said so and I have the power to silence you from defending your position."

                [–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (25 children)

                I support TRP, but it's fair to point out that WE censor opposing views all the time. We have a zero-tolerance for people who make posts through the feminist school of thought (in other words, the opposing view.) Though I agree with your point, I don't think we can really criticize others on this matter.

                [–]rockymountainoysters 78 points79 points  (6 children)

                This is the equivalent of TRP mods autobanning anybody who's ever posted in /r/relationship_advice.

                Let us protect ourselves from their vile hate over there at /r/relationship_advice, lest our delicate principles be tainted.

                [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

                That's the difference, they're clearly autobanning people based on association, and AFAIK, you have to actually post in TRP to get banned by TRP.

                [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                Pretty sure you have to be annoying about it, too.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 20 points21 points  (4 children)

                I have seen that zero-tolerance expressed, but for the most part, it's usually reserved for people who don't express intelligible views and/or comments that only intend to incite people and have no intention of reaching a logical conclusion.

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                Yes, of course. I, in fact, agree with and understand the use of the policy. Though it is absolutely ridiculous to ban some one just for being a member of a sub, I find it slightly humorous that we complain about censorship.

                [–]Modredpillschool 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                Post this same comment there and see which one stays up longer...

                [–]lightfire409 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                From my understanding, so long as you aren't using common shaming tactics and are able to support your point, you wont get banned. Downvoted, sure. But its not an autoban.

                Of course, you can argue against TRP without appealing to feelings/irrationality so its a futile exercise to begin with.

                [–]USmellFunny 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                Yeah but it's the community that decides "this guy's ideas are in conflict with our ideas". There's no random bot reading your post history and banning you if you posted to some feminized subreddit.

                [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                No one claiming to be a feminist has ever posted anything here other than insults and hate-fueled vitriol. Feminists and SJWs don't come here to engage in rational debate. They come here to get attention.

                In the interest of preserving the signal-to-noise ratio, and preventing this sub from becoming a reason-vs-shouting arena like PPD, I think censorship is entirely appropriate.

                [–]interestedplayer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                one thing to notice too, is who is in danger of extinction. if /r/askreddit comes over here and vote brigades, they can only with their current online members override the entire TRP. if TRP tries to do that it barely makes a dent...

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                I dont see people get banned here, unless I am missing something. Downvotes do the work just fine.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I got banned before for simply criticizing a post. Not Bp or troll and I had hundreds of karma at the time. So yes people get banned here for silly stuff.

                [–]Senior Contributorveggie_girl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                It's not zero-tolerance for intelligent conversationalists. We've had open debate in the past. But if you come in and ignore the sidebar, spread feminist garbage, or outright resort to ad-hominem and other shame tactics, your ass is grass. Posting 2-word comments and jpg meme comments is another no-no. TRP mods are about quality control, not censorship. At least from what I've seen since it started, I'm not a mod.

                [–]busyalterego 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                No, that's not censorship, that's just protocol. To post, everyone must read the sidebar.

                If they say something obviously blue pill, odds are they either didn't read the sidebar or disagree with something in it. If they disagree with the sidebar then they can post about that all they want. People will dowvote the shit out of them because of course the sidebar is true. Then they will get banned: after saying retarded shit and being downvoted to hell by a community of truth seekers who are done with lies.

                That's not censorship, it's getting rid of lying trolls.

                [–]I_HaveAHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                People get banned from trp because the users here don't want to argue with bluepillers all day. Op got banned simply because of a difference in opinion.

                Big difference

                [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 31 points32 points  (1 child)

                And feminism cannot exist without censorship precisely because its ideas are indefensible in an argument.

                [–]the_red_scimitar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Excellent point. And one can extend that to any subject being censored.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 25 points26 points  (0 children)

                As Tyrion Lannister said in Game of Thrones "If you cut out a man's tongue you haven't proven him wrong, you've only proven that you fear what he has to say."

                [–]the_red_scimitar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Brilliant and true. And yes, it comes crashing down, but often after those who set it up are gone.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorNiftyDolphin 56 points57 points  (8 children)

                I got banned this morning. I just shrugged and figured it was some SJW'n.

                Why are reddit politics so vicious? Because the stakes are so small.

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                  [–]redpilldiscourse 6 points7 points  (4 children)

                  They have everything to lose.

                  What exactly are they losing, however?

                  How exactly are they benefiting from perpetuating these lies?

                  [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  They get a pavlovian release of dopamine. Other than that nothing.

                  No different from masterbation, really. Except after you cum you start thinking clearly again.

                  [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  No different from masterbation, really. Except after you cum you start thinking clearly again.

                  The Japanese came up with a word to describe this exact phenomenon: Kenjataimu.

                  https://i.imgur.com/47q9CYv.png

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Sailor's Law of Female Journalism: The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking. This doesn't just apply to journalists anymore. The SJWs have a vested interest in keeping the social values that give them power.

                  [–]PedroIsWatching 39 points40 points  (1 child)

                  The offmychest mods have been doing this to anyone on the FatPeopleHate subreddit as well.

                  Feels before reals. Fat people are beautiful and women hate assholes.

                  [–]MorePancakes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Just realized I'm banned too. I got no warning. I have never posted their and subbed to trp and fatpeoplehate

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                  [–]ShepardfucksEVERYONE 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                  Out of curiosity, what conclusion would you come to if someone had no enemies?

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                    [–]tyeunbroken 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    He who has nothing to fight for, doesn't have enemies.

                    [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 131 points132 points  (16 children)

                    The magic of the internet is that truly pathetic people can act self important where in real life they couldn't. Judging from my skype calls and twitter fan base most of TRP fits tbe profile of college educated 22 year old white male about six foot in decent shape. That's probably a mostly accurate description of you.

                    Now who is this woman? Normal women have never fucking herd of feminist safe spaces. So shes definitely not a normal woman. Next anyone advocating a feminist safe space is deeply uncomfortable around men. So chances are high that she doesn't fucking gym. Also if she truley believes in 'acceptance' chances are high that she doesn't hold herself accountable.

                    A very high percentage of Black Women are obese. YellowMix is a mod of BlackLadies and a few other race/discrimination subs.

                    From what I can gather you are arguing with a fat black woman manatee BS in humanity. Do you really give a fuck what she thinks?

                    [–]Big_ol_Bro 25 points26 points  (1 child)

                    I want my mind to accept just how worthless their opinions are, but the fact that they are strong arming their views outweighs their pathetic existence.

                    I'm full on triggered.

                    [–]Nebulose11 24 points25 points  (4 children)

                    Any redpiller who also posts to r/fatpeoplehate has been banned from offmychest for a while now.

                    They autoban for posting to more than just this sub. They are unable to handle opposing viewpoints. Anything that could trigger them can not be tolerated.

                    [–]evoblade 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    The whole "triggering" thing blows my mind. Real life doesn't care about your triggers. If you can't tolerate upsetting ideas, you are gonna have a hard time with life.

                    [–]1xwm 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                    Any redpiller who also posts to r/fatpeoplehate has been banned from offmychest for a while now.

                    Ah that explains it. I posted a few weeks back how BMI is mostly useless for determining overweight, got downvoted to oblivion, and when I said that I'm considered overweight on BMI and all of my friends refuse to believe it (to them it's hilarious because I'm a skinny motherfucker who is trying to gain weight), they banned me from /r/fatpeoplehate saying that I needed to pic verify. Like I need to validate myself to strangers on the internet. It was so stupid it was funny.

                    Three days later random /r/offmychest ban.

                    [–]k0ndomo 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                    I can understand this one though, most people who claim that the BMI system is broken are.. overweight. Only bodybuilders and really fit people are an exception most of the time.

                    [–]yesidoes 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                    Regardless of her weight, race, or gender the mod is clearly a victim.

                    Arguing with any victim, if you are viewed as the oppressor, is never going to work. The victim already has mental barriers blocking any logical discourse.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I was talking with one of my employees about this the other day. If you don't communicate consistently, all of the sudden someone creates a narrative in their head as to what's going on.

                    When that narrative inevitably turns into how they're a victim (it always does), you'd be better be there first before they decide it's you who's oppressing them.

                    [–]puppetmstr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    WTF dude you gave a perfect description of me

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                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Their subscribers would start to dwindle and they'd lose power.

                    [–]thedude122487 23 points24 points  (11 children)

                    Who exactly is it that TRP hates?

                    [–]1jb_trp 49 points50 points  (6 children)

                    It's difficult to call it a hate group with all the love I've been making since swallowing TRP...

                    [–]thedude122487 32 points33 points  (4 children)

                    I assume they're talking about slut-shaming, which is really nothing more than people getting up in arms about political incorrectness. "Hating sluts" implies that we want them to disppear. We don't - we love them because we can spin them as plates. They are a fact of life and they're never going away (not that we want them to). We just don't want to be in LTR's with them. And that infuriates a lot of women because it contradicts the feminist imperative to empower women.

                    I think people who call it a hategroup honestly do not understand it. The fact that /r/redpillwomen exists is also proof. RedPillWomen are just a bunch of women who approached TRP with an open mind and said, "Yeah, that's accurate." If TRP is a hategroup, then RedPillWomen would be analagous to some black people forming a chapter of the KKK. I don't think so.

                    [–]sushisection 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                    Shhhh I don't think they know about trpwomen. That would implode the echo chamber

                    [–]1xwm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    No no no, those poor women are just confused and manipulated souls who need to be enlightened to the ways of their rapists and abusers. /s

                    Think rescue party, but they're rescuing them from being happy/content.

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    I assume they're talking about slut-shaming

                    They're talking about Misogyny. They say we hate women. Keep in mind their claims don't have to be true or even make sense. All they have to do is keep repeating it over and over and tell anybody who tries to take a look for themselves that they're no longer part of the respectable members of the human race. That is why they'll fail. Humans have a morbid curiosity about anything taboo or forbidden. The stats of many manosphere sites surge after public denouncements made by SJWs. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the stats here do the some after heavy handed banning in other subreddits.

                    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    This sub was rated as the most supportive in some recent survey here on reddit.

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                      [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                      "The red pill is the radical notion that women are people."

                      [–]denart4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      I have been here for a long time and I still have to find out.

                      [–]xthemoonx 19 points20 points  (2 children)

                      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

                      [–]Big_ol_Bro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      Fun fact: a woman wrote that

                      [–]xthemoonx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      she was talking about voltaire and how he saw the world.

                      [–]1kick6 15 points16 points  (4 children)

                      as soon as they dropped the "safe space" bomb, you were informed of the exact brand of lunacy you were dealing with.

                      [–]Tarnsman4Life 27 points28 points  (10 children)

                      Old news, I was banned from Offmychest because I commented on the post about this in R/censorship about a month ago. They are becoming the new SRS.

                      [–]Kill_Your_Ego 20 points21 points  (3 children)

                      I had a comment I made get linked to from SRD and over the next five hours my karma dropped by 500 points. As they brigaded my posts and down voted them all. I'm not sure why the SRS/SRD crazies can brigade but no one else. I honestly found the entire thing hilarious. I guess they could not allow my red pill comments in the blue pill sub to have a +10.

                      Might cause some of the hate mongers to lose their power.

                      [–]sushisection 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                      Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

                      It's all these people can do in life. Dopamine hits when that mouse clicks the downvote. "Oh yeah take that fucker". They live a sad reality where they only experience joy by shaming others for expressing their thoughts, and presumably by eating a lot of chocolate cake.

                      It's like Alan Moore's Norsefire party, but ran by ultra leftist land whales instead of Christian fascists.

                      [–]Tarnsman4Life 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                      I do wonder this aloud; all of the "non PC" subs, be it pro gun subs, libertarian subs, or the red pill have to post a big long "its not OK to brigade" every time there is even an accusation yet SRS, 2X, Feminism, etc brigade every single day.

                      [–]razor5151-returns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      What are the admins doing? Aren't they supposed to prevent things like this from happening?

                      [–]MyDaughtersOrgasm 18 points19 points  (4 children)

                      All their mods except for 1 are mods in at least 1 feminist subreddit and perhaps even more hilarious, theyre all mods in at least 1 black-only sub. I didn't realize being a gay black feminist was so common on reddit...

                      [–]Kill_Your_Ego 26 points27 points  (1 child)

                      They better turn into a trans otherkin quick or they are going to lose the oppression olympics.

                      [–]2Overkillengine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      They'll have to also identify as mayonnaise if they want to win the gold though.

                      [–]rygar_the_red 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      It's not. They are totally the minority.

                      Okay, that was my dad joke of the day. I'll be at the gym if anybody needs me LOL.

                      [–]Wrong_Opinion 8 points9 points  (8 children)

                      Wait a second, who among us is invading subs? Sometimes there's discussion of topics and conversation brought up in other subs but I've never seen a call to a raid in here, ever.

                      [–]Modredpillschool 28 points29 points  (2 children)

                      At this point, TRP is just the boogeyman catch-all for ideas they don't like. Anybody posting something they don't like.. well, it must be TRP invading!

                      [–]Wrong_Opinion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                      Seems about right, we get similar problems over at /r/Anarcho_Capitalism in relation to some other political subs.

                      [–]1Sergnb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      tbh it's quite the same thing people do with srs. It has become a giant target for anyone to point at and say "they did it!" with no further burden of proof required and massive amounts of oneuppers agreeing with you and then commenting on how awful srs is and blablabla.

                      People look at things like these, slap them with an "extremist" label, and then blame them for anything bad that happens related to that topic. Feminists shut down a male rights conference? Must have been orchestrated by srs. Bunch of people in deadbedrooms telling the OP that she is the cause of her husband not having any libido? Must be a trp raid. Some complete imbecilo saying stupid shit on askreddit about women? Must be a highly ranked and well respected member of the Church of Theredpillology. It has been like this with politics since the beginning of time.

                      Just gratuitious vitriol for the sake of "I wanna feel like I'm the smartest person on the internet". Pointless tribal war.

                      I am always forced into this tribality and I always ignore it. I've been banned from /r/feminism while at the same time being invited to participate in /r/femradebates. I got a friend who does nothing but tweet about gamergate bullshit ever since it started. I got other friends who can't stop talking about feminism, inviting me to events and inviting me to report "toxic communities" on facebook all the time. I never post on those subreddits. I don't care about gamergate. I don't talk about stupid shit on facebook. Why should I care about any of those.

                      Y'all got better things to do than worrying about this shit. Why does it bother you that you got banned from a sub you never post in? Focus on your priorities. You have some lifting to do. You have some reading to do. You have some learning to do. You have to improve yourself motherfucker. Stop paying attention to this bullshit.

                      [–]Iupvoteforknowledge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      None of us. Not a single one of us has wasted their fucking time doing that. Because here at trp we are taught our time is valuable.

                      [–]Darkone06 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      if anything I seen the oppesite, dont talk about the red pill, dont help out the poor betas. When they are ready they will find the light kind of attitude.

                      [–]prisonersandpriests 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      When they are ready they will find the light kind of attitude.

                      If they are ever ready. There will always be poor betas.

                      [–]Shadow_banned1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      I was looking at offmychest and the mods there claim that TRP has bots that troll reddit looking for places where Red Pill is mentioned so we can brigade their subs... made me lol at how delusional they are.

                      [–]thrwawy_one 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                      Just like Paul Graham says: The only things you can get in trouble for saying are things that have the potential to be true. Otherwise, it wouldn't stir up a ruckus.

                      [–]Heisenberg2308 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                      When you cut out a mans tongue, you aren't proving him a liar...rather, you fear what he might say

                      [–]Masonjarteadrinker2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                      Eh just shrug it off, no point in giving a fuck.

                      [–]Darkone06 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                      I just had a similar exchange:

                      It made ny blood boil.

                      you have been banned from posting to /r/offmychest: Off My Chest | What you've been holding in for too long.

                      Why? What is the reasoning?

                      theredpill continues to invade this and other subreddits, spreading their hateful messages. We are automatically banning any supporter of this hate group. If you received a ban notice, you must have posted, commented, or voted in this subreddit sometime, anytime, in the past, as recorded by Reddit. Everyone else does not get the ban notice. If you do not support theredpill, we are willing to discuss and unban.

                      So somehow, you banning me before I have commited any act of disobidence in your subreddit isnt hateful. Yes I lurk and reply in the red pill, but where has one of my coments been hateful? Give me an example of me "spreading their hateful message." Your being hateful and ignorant by banning me before I have commited an act under your jurisdiction, /r/offmychest . Your just a nazi who would rather remove those he sees unfit or unequal from his life, before they have commited a crime. Your kind makes me sick.

                      lol. Bans are easily reversible and you've immediately Godwinned the discussion as if this is remotely comparable to genocide. If there's any analogy to be made, the bot is simply a bouncer making sure you won't cause trouble in here, and all you have to do is answer a simple question: do you support the hate group or not?

                      I will always act with the strongest of convictions towards censorship of any kind. For that path leads to the dark side. That is a loaded question. I do not support any hate groups. Do I support the red pill? The awnser would be yes. I just find it funny how your sidebar reads: This is a safe space for people of any and all backgrounds. Oppressive attitudes and language will not be tolerated. Yet you find it justified to oppress my opinion, just because you disagree with my convictions and beliefs before I have made any offense towards you. The analogy of a bouncer is flawed since im not seeking entry into your establishment nor have I acted agaisnt it while confine to its territory. Instead you have choosen to go on a manhunt against those who you deam unworthy and taken premtive strike against them.

                      We didn't ask you for your opinions on censorship, our protocols or analogies. We asked if you supported them or not. Its a simple question and you've answered it by this point. Do not contact us again

                      Fuck you, your the one that contacted me ! To hell with you.

                      [–]TominatorXX[S] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

                      I find the question "do you support x subreddit" highly offensive. It's like McCarthyism or burning someone because you think they might be a witch.

                      [–]sushisection 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      They have become the very thing they are trying to do away with.

                      [–]thenarrrowpath 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                      That's why our founders fought a War and passed a First Amendment.

                      That's what I thought. But the 1st amendment only protects us from governmental tyranny, not societal tyranny.

                      Roosh touches on this; he describes it as people "trying to take your bread". I understand your point about supporting Nazi's free speech rights, I've said something similar about the West Burro Baptist Church, yet......

                      What these SJW's don't understand is the oppression of the minority. The irony is; they would support the Civil Rights movement which is a great demonstration of a minority class rising up against the oppression of the majority, yet they (in todays world) are the majority oppressing us (RP) the minority. Now in no way are we on the same level as the Civil Rights movement, but it goes to show you that unpopular thoughts or actions will subject you to societal abuse (i.e. being doxed, exposed to lose your job, evicted from your home, denial of business, and complete alienation from your community IRL or online)

                      [–]1xwm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      He just compared the red pill to Martin Luther King Jr.! Everyone ban him quick! /s

                      [–]skoobled 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                      The phrase "safe space" makes me think of padded cells in a lunatic asylum

                      [–]1xwm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Hard to get triggered in a straight jacket, all I'm saying.

                      [–]zeus450 17 points18 points  (5 children)

                      Dude she's a mod of a socialism sub, racism sub, the black lady sub, and other bullshit like that. Fuck her.

                      [–]TominatorXX[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

                      Oh, see, I didn't realize. I didn't look her up.

                      I thought you could intelligently discuss censorship with a mod and say, "look you're discriminating against me for what you think I think. Isn't that a little messed up?"

                      [–]toothbrush_your_anus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                      I thought you could intelligently discuss censorship with a mod

                      are you new to the internet?

                      [–]zeus450 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                      Not with these people bro. They think they're exceptions to rules because "patriarchy". They're not accountable for their actions so they're allowed to do whatever they want without repercussions. They use any tactic to "win" an argument, which is often just lying to get whatever they want. They're allowed to exist because a large number of betas follow them and believe doing so will get them laid. People like to say TRP is extreme? We have nothing on those motherfuckers.

                      [–]Scroph 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                      r/offmychest.. I'm pretty sure I never posted in it, but it sounds like a subreddit you would use a throwaway for. I'd say that it doesn't matter whether or not they ban you because you wouldn't use your main account to post in it anyway.

                      [–]1xwm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      If you're still posting in it then you haven't absorbed enough of the red pill.

                      Law number 5: If you're a man, no one cares. Pick your own shit up and keep moving.

                      [–]Drenmar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      offmychest is run by fat sjw tumblrinettes and faggots. If you post in fatpeoplehate you'll also get banned from offmychest. They can't handle the truth bombs in their 'safe space'.

                      [–]zenkibudo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      Such an event validates /r/TheRedPill/, imo.

                      [–]BlindNowhereMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      I got banned to.. for telling a guy "his wife knows what she is doing and is being manipulative" the ban ce yesterday after I posted a comment here. I made the comment in r/off my chest a few weeks ago..

                      [–]RedVillain 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      I recommend using an alt account.

                      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      On Mapporn because im a weird guy.

                      Get into a discussion about state required maternity and paternity leave.

                      Tell people I disagree with the notion that the state should force people to pay for other peoples "quality bonding time" Get called a bigot and an idiot for not recognizing the obvious social benefits of the system. Tell them that it is immoral to steal from someone because you believe its "better" than not.

                      Finally someone brings up I frequent this sub....as if that's some sort of indication that my stance has no merit. Straw-manning like crazy.

                      [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                      [–]prodigyx 26 points27 points  (3 children)

                      You just wasted a whole bunch of your time arguing with an idiot, then you just wasted a bunch of our time making a post about it. Looks like you came out on the losing side of this one.

                      [–]Nebulose11 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                      I enjoyed the read. Idiots are nothing less than entertainment.

                      [–]sushisection 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      Funny because you just wasted your time writing a post about a guy wasting time writing a post about wasting time arguing with an idiot.

                      Looks like.. I came out on the losing side of this one?

                      [–]prisonersandpriests 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      That's kind of what I'm seeing. I understand expending excess energy for a whole lot of really great reasons. Arguing with a moron is not one of those, and just becomes an exercise in futility.

                      [–]PlanB_pedofile 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                      Just stay away from /offmychest. The group is a whine and bitching forum looking for feel good validation.

                      Make a beta account for those types of subs.

                      [–]MazeMouse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      So basically reverse brigading?

                      [–]dgillz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      This is exactly what happened to me 2 days ago. I asked (presumably her) what evidence she had that TRP people were "invading her community" and she declined to offer any evidence.

                      Fuck them.

                      [–]1BoogersAreTasty 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      I like how they use the phrase "safe space".

                      I can almost hear them whining, "Protect me from the bad words, mommy."

                      [–]Ojisan1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Mommy is a patriarchal term used to oppress something something.

                      [–]iLLprincipLeS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      pathetic, typical SJW actions, boo hoo, like you can't make a new account in 60 seconds.

                      [–]Kendjo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      This is madness. Reddit is hitting a new low.

                      [–]SlappaDaBayssMon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      That sub is merely a place where whiners go when they know even their own friends don't want to deal with their shitty out look on life. You don't want to have anything to do with that place.

                      [–]Kalepsis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      Anyone who thinks this is a "hate subreddit" has never actually read anything in here. I've seen so much worse things coming from /r/offmychest than this sub.

                      Do they automatically ban everyone who posts in twoX as well? That's a male hate-group.

                      No? Then I guess their mods are just huge hypocrites. A "duty to maintain a safe space" is just code for "a responsibility to ban anyone who disagrees with our viewpoint from speaking".

                      [–]Goldfulgore 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      I don't know what's the issue here. Why does TRP even care about this? All subs restrict freedom of speech. Even TRP. It's just that they do it right off the bat. Big deal. Use a throwaway account.

                      I thought everyone had realised by now that we are the outcasts of reddit.

                      [–]1xwm 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                      I got banned from /r/offmychest too. I sent a confused message asking why as I'd never even viewed the sub. I got no replies, I assumed it was cause I post here.

                      It really shows their pathetic side that they need waste hours to go down a user list to a different sub, many of whose member have never been and have no desire to visit theirs. Makes me feel a little sad for them that their lives are that empty.

                      [–]Ojisan1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Makes me feel a little sad for them that their lives are that empty.

                      And that they are so fearful of people that have different opinions. And that they feel like covering their ears will make other opinions disappear. The real world is not a "safe space" we could be hit by an asteroid tomorrow, for all we know, and go the way of the dinosaurs.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      /r/offmychest banned me long ago before this sub existed. Its ran by black feminist extremist i think.

                      [–]Mouthpiece 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                      It sounds like the mods in our group need to start banning the mods of /r/offmychest

                      Clearly, they are opposed to a male-positive agenda. That kind of discrimination cannot be tolerated in a male-safe space.

                      Off with their heads.

                      [–]flyingwolf 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                      Nah, redpill doesn't ban folks for the most part. Let them talk, the fastest way to expose an idiot is to let them speak.

                      [–]1xwm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      Why ban them? We have no fear of what they have to say, as truth wins all logical arguments. If they do try to post garbage in here, we'll have good examples to hold out and laugh at.

                      [–]prisonersandpriests 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      a male-safe space.

                      No, no. THE male-safe space.

                      [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Surprised I haven't been banned a million times in as many places.

                      [–]2IVIaskerade 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Don't bother talking to Irby, by the way. She's a psychopath who gets off on the feeling of power that modding subreddits gives her (I think it's a her at the moment).

                      [–]jmg83 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      I got one of these yesterday. I don't even remember posting to that sub.

                      [–]LD_in_MT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      TominatorXX, basically you won, on an intellectual level.

                      [–]1Jaereth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      While this is asinine, you gave her the power, if only for the duration of your conversation.

                      Because really, in actuality, who gets to post what on what internet message board is pretty inconsequential. I think the correct response here would be to ignore it. (In the future, I realize you were just curious about it)

                      So now we all know they are pro-actively banning RP members at /offmychest. Don't respond to it, don't ask questions, don't go stir up stuff over there. Just ignore it as the inconsequential event it is, and go about your day.

                      By responding in the least, you are giving it power. The thing about these people is they embrace this idiocy because they literally don't have anything better going on in their lives. While you look at it as asking a simple string of questions about the ban, they can all now "huehuehue we totally banned him and he was mad. Oh man we got him good".

                      Just ignore them like you would any lippy bratty child.

                      [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      This shouldn't be shocking my friend. Reddit is the epicenter of modern society. The fascist, scared for their lives left doing to their best to finally seize power under the guise of equality

                      [–]1nzgs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Reddit is one of the most far-left mainstream sites on the internet. Censorship and political correctness has been a tool of the Left for more than 100 years. Why does any of this surprise you? I only use reddit for TRP, and would welcome any move away from reddit.

                      [–]tehwankingwalruses 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      IrbyTremor is one of the most crazy SRSers. Doesn't surprise me.

                      [–]1sailorJery 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Ha, just checked and I'm banned as well. Good times.

                      [–]rorrr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      There are 111K subscribers. Good luck banning any meaningful fraction of that.

                      [–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Has no-one bothered to tell them that we don't actually hate over here? Not that I care really. But if you're going to ban someone for certain reasons, the least you could do is your own due diligence to to justify said reasons.

                      Then again, they are SJWs/thought police for a reason I guess...

                      [–]TRPLeftist 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                      re: Banned? from IrbyTremor[M] via /r/offmychest/ sent 3 days ago TRP isn't hateful. Talk about a warped perspective....wow Or do you all not have the faintest clue how you sound to people outside of TRP, much less any woman reading it? You're the Neo nazis of gender. If you didn't know.

                      Just got this

                      [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I was banned from /r/science with no reason given, just out of the blue one day. Cemented my belief in the prevalence of the liberal circlejerk in modern science.

                      [–]95wave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      If you really want to go on shitty subs like that then just make an alt, for fucks sake

                      [–]UlyssesElias 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      People, families, groups, organisations or subs that shut down free speech ought to be loudly condemned. Period.

                      [–]caesarfecit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Wow, it's like they're doing a bit called "power tripping Internet moderator". Honestly, I would have trolled the shit out of them after the first bullshit reply and walked away.

                      You only need to get banned from one subreddit to realize how silly it is to get mad about Reddit bullshit. Mine was r/askhistorians. I got into a fight with some flaired commenters who buttsore my post went to the top while they disagreed over pedantic bullshit. The mods circled the wagons around the buttsore commenter while I got cross-posted to r/badhistory and r/subredditdrama for daring to successfully defend my work. Then the mods banned me (after I made them undelete my post) because I "plagiarized Wikipedia" and their entire basis for it was the formatting of my sources.

                      I look back on that, and the question I have for my past self is:

                      • why was I so naive that I expected maturity and reasonableness from such people? And why should I give one shit what tools think?

                      TL:DR: don't throw pearls before swine and don't bother trying to reason with the unreasonable. They've already lost the argument on its merits and if you take them seriously, you lose precious minutes of your life you'll never get back and they don't deserve.

                      [–]_VicBoss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Heh, that subreddit's just a bunch of made up stories for creative, dramatic youth to pretend they're experiencing something other than first world problems. No loss, bub.

                      [–]beerleader 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      What can we do?

                      Why not just create an alternate off my chest where people can share their problems without discriminating them?

                      [–]ohsweetword 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      It's been that way for years.

                      I've been meaning to write an article related to how being a narcissist has helped me hide my real thoughts and emotions.

                      The redpill isn't /r/atheism though. It isn't something where neckbeards go shouting about it on other subreddits.

                      You need to keep your ideals and beliefs to yourself and any loyal male friends you may have. Act on them when you can and take what power you can.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      If you post anything other than the party line in several forums that don't like TRP.

                      The mods will search your history, and subs and ban you based on that.

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