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Blue Pill ExampleRemember the guy who dumped his fiance because she would only hold his hand after being raped but fucked her co-worker? Well here's the update... (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by cassandrita

Link: https://archive.is/Cmcrc

TL;DR

Original post: Guys gf gets raped. Gf's family prevents guy from seeing her, eventually they have lunch after a few months. They only hold hands and she holds off his advances. Then a year after she was raped, she tells her bf that she slept with her co-worker. Her therapist said it's okay because the gf was just 'reclaiming her sexuality' so it's not 'cheating'.

Guy decides to grow a pair and dump his fiance. Now to the update.

TL;DR Guys sister and the sister of his gf show up at his apartment, cry and bully him into not dumping the cheating gf. Cheating gf shows up next day, now realizes she's going to lose her doormat and gives him a pity fuck so that he'll stay. Guy decides to take her back and sees himself married in a few years. Wow.

Some key points:

Once my sister got done talking (I'm going to call her sister Susan just so I can stop typing her sister) Susan said that in reality she knew that she was right. She begged me to not go through with my letter, she said that I had promised to give Sara a week (which I had). She then gave a very impassioned speech about how much she can tell I still love her and how much she knows she still loves me.

First of all if any woman ever treated one of my brothers this way, no fucking way would I tell him to stay with her. But yet apparently some women stick together no matter what.

So long story short I agreed to not take the letter over.

Dude has no fucking balls.

All I could do was say how very sorry and how embarrassed I was,

Fiance cheats on him and he's the one apologizing.

Guy talks to his gf. Conversation is cringeworthy:

All she said to me was "are you really going to leave me"? I couldn't answer, I just looked into her eyes and felt broken and ashamed.

She fucked another guy and again, he's the one ashamed.

and that she now see's that what she did was horrible to me when I have been nothing but compassionate and loving towards her. She begged me for another chance

Now that he's not willing to be a doormat, she's willing to change.

OP gets some sane advice:

One p.m. I got from a rape survivor kept going over in my head that if she was able to come around because of the threat of me leaving then this was not all due to her emotional trauma because if it was due to that then no threat of me leaving was going to change this.

But of course OP's already suckered back into a shitty relationship:

But between my sister, her sister and her every wall that I was building to protect myself was crumbling and that kiss pretty much was the wrecking ball that tore them all down.

And gf's final move:

We ended up spending the weekend together. Yes you can infer from that what occurred between us. I'll just say that I was probably more scared about it than she was.

One year no sex, only hand holding, OP threatens to leave and all of a sudden the gf is no longer 'traumatized'.

Bottom line is I love her, I have always loved her and all I wanted was for her to show me she loved me as well.

Surprisingly most of the comments disagree with OP.


[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 426 points427 points  (30 children)

I prefer to date a woman who fucks me without my resorting to an ultimatum.

[–][deleted] 230 points231 points  (12 children)

Well you see, you have a spine.

[–][deleted] 149 points150 points  (11 children)

You have spine privilege, shitlord!

[–]pennypuptech 52 points53 points  (1 child)

spineless #forgiiveandforget #love

[–]pwnerofnoob 28 points29 points  (8 children)

I am in love with the fact that we are now using the word 'shitlord' as sarcasm. Thank you

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 27 points28 points  (2 children)

we are now using the word 'shitlord' as sarcasm.

We use it as a compliment, because we are reclaiming the word, "you go girrrr I mean boyyyyyyy friendddddddddddddd!".

Seriously though, it's actually pretty flattering. Considering making girls say it in bed. After pretending my real name is Chad.

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

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    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    The paperwork is in the post. Real name is now Chad Cock. Middle name Thunder.

    [–]fatalbinoninja 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Tumblerinaction would be proud.

    [–][deleted] 103 points104 points  (7 children)

    Let's not forget that she let another guy rawdog her, while her boyfriend couldn't even hold her hand.

    [–]1xwm 53 points54 points  (3 children)

    Because having a spineless beta fuck her would be too reminiscent of the rape

    [–]Sherlock--Holmes 42 points43 points  (1 child)

    I'm thinking it's the other way around..

    [–]jinougaashu 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    Fuckin bingo! Your name is on point.

    [–]1KyfhoMyoba 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Because having a spineless beta fuck her would be too reminiscent of the rape

    Ironically, in her mind this would not be sarcasm. Fucking a beta feels like rape to her.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    another guy rawdog her, while her boyfriend couldn't even hold her hand.

    "The shape had four corners, while it was a triangle".

    That sentence irks me as logically / grammatically wrong. How can people say or even think "my [so/bf/gf/fiance/husband/wife]" instead of "a [scumbag/ex/cunt/whore/retard]" followed by "[cheated/doesn't fuck me/etc]".

    Obviously not ripping on /u/sway_usa - just pointing out the depth & pervasiveness of cultural indoctrination.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That makes sense. I'm just not passionate about it because it's unfortunately expected.

    [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 75 points76 points  (8 children)

    After having cheated with Chad from work of course. No, really, that's what happened. She cheated with some other guy but couldn't touch the OP for something like a year and a half. GTFO with that bullshit.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 98 points99 points  (6 children)

    ...but she chose him in the end! He wins! /s

    [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

    The past doesn't matter, because look at who's she's with! Not who she's been with!

    [–]zxDanKwan 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    "Officer, you can't pay attention to the 50 banks I robbed last year! I haven't robbed a single bank in 2015, so you can't judge me by what I did. I was just claiming my financial independence!"

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I'm giving this new bank a gift! I robbed so many other banks trying to find the right one for me... this is the one I settled on chose in the end! Clearly they are far better than the previous 50 banks.

    [–]Auphor_Phaksache 376 points377 points  (65 children)

    He'll be back. At least I hope so, it's like reading a horror story. Chapter 3, coming soon.

    [–]ObservantOmega 174 points175 points  (35 children)

    Of course he'll be back. In fact he'll probably come here after she divorce rapes him.

    Right now it's dollars to peanuts she's fucking other guys behind his back.

    [–]Nebulose11 130 points131 points  (23 children)

    Other guy pumped and dumped. BB is here to "save a hoe.® "

    Edit: After reading again she is probably prego with Chad's seed and needs OP to man up.

    [–]1xwm 55 points56 points  (2 children)

    50/50 she's still seeing work chad, but she's still going to be getting side cock either way after he has shown hell take her back no matter what.

    [–]2All_fixed_again 26 points27 points  (0 children)

    She has basically tested his bounderies with this. The fact that he is taking her back after all of this sends a clear message to her. She will continue to test his bounderies upping the dose in the future. She knows she has him hooked, she knows she can reel him back in regardless of what she does...a grim outlook for OP unfortunately.

    [–]Enchantelope 18 points19 points  (1 child)

    Ironically, the OP's name is ACTUALLY Chad:

    I will always love you, this breaks my heart more than you will ever know.

    Love, Chad

    Lest you think it's a pseudonym:

    It makes it a little hard to deny it was you when every single detail is the same and you use your own dumb ass name.

    [–]prodigyx 15 points16 points  (1 child)

    she is probably prego with Chad's seed

    I think we have a winner here. Smart money is on this.

    [–]the_number_2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    weekend together. Yes you can infer from that what occurred between us

    I bet we can infer that their "special, finally-ready-for-sex-again" weekend she allowed him to raw dog it, effectively giving plausible deniability that the baby she's carrying from fucking her Alpha-of-choice could be this guy's.

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]EvrythingISayIsRight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      And the funny part is that if you left her over that, you would look like the bad guy and a shitty boyfriend.

      [–]WAFC 2 points3 points  (12 children)

      If I recall, she fucked the other guy five months ago, so as long as beta boy is getting the full story (no guarantees), it's unlikely he's getting full blown cucked.

      [–]Nebulose11 43 points44 points  (4 children)

      If Chad isn't still railing her I bet some other Chad is. This woman wants nothing to do with him except have relationship status.

      Women are in love with relationships, not men.

      [–]Mustaka 12 points13 points  (6 children)

      Lol. Women only disclose to hurt or when caught red handed. No chance he has the full story.

      [–]WAFC 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      True in most cases. In this case I would imagine 'not having the full story' actually means she had a short affair with her co-worker (everyone here wants to rush and call him a Chad but with a woman this broken he could have just been a beta in the right place at the right time).

      Eh. It's hard to have sympathy for him in any case. He knows enough of the story to know better than to go back to her.

      [–]alpha-game 26 points27 points  (2 children)

      that's the most disgusting part. fucking other guys behind his back, with her dr.'s approval.

      and somehow it's his fault. unreal.

      [–]corrigun 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      We don't really know that. We know she said that but it could easily be total bullshit.

      [–]ObservantOmega 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Nah, smart money is that the good ole therapist belongs to the "reclaim your sexuality/all men are pigs" club. Otherwise there would be no ganging up on him during the reveal in her office. She probably encouraged her and maybe even gave her the idea.

      PS: Most therapists I know are fucked up like that.

      [–]juliusstreicher 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Of course...how else can she reclaim her sexuality?

      [–]ObservantOmega 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I know a few other ways, but that would be imposing PATRIARCHY!® on her.

      Modern female sexuality is like a snuff film, just say no to it.

      [–]WordsNotToLiveBy 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      That is some despicable shit. She hasn't taken advantage of him completely yet. Like a black widow she's going after his last bit of self respect and financial independence.

      Then she'll discard him leaving behind a hollow shell, and continue playing the victim card. The cycle continues...

      [–]warjesus420 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      My favorite about my ex is that she always said I would "play victim" like I did nothing wrong. When I never even said that, just was telling her to stop sucker punching me when I wasn't looking, hitting me with a whiskey bottle, or breaking a light bulb on my head. She'd be like well you held me down and hurt me and I couldn't breath. So you know I can't "claim I'm a victim" because I would defend myself against her crazy violence. Meanwhile I'll be sleeping and wake up to a punch in the face and get a black eye.

      [–]WordsNotToLiveBy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Jesus Christ. At that point, I'd rather be alone.

      [–]recon_johnny 85 points86 points  (11 children)

      Things like this increase my rage. In fact, I railed the first time I read it.

      Fuck this guy. Fuck him, fuck his fucked up attitude, fuck his lack of self respect, fuck his fucking naivete, fuck his lack of insight, and fuck him for not listening when people tell him exactly what the fuck is going on--"then this was not all due to her emotional trauma".

      I'm done with fucks like these.

      It shows me, however, that I have much more to go in the way I view things--getting to that DGAF attitude. So I got that going for me.

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 24 points25 points  (5 children)

      It shows me, however, that I have much more to go in the way I view things--getting to that DGAF attitude. So I got that going for me.

      The whole AF/BB isn't made up TRP shit you know. The whole save-a-ho / beta / white-knight / male-feminist shit that men do isn't made up. TRP isn't fiction. You just need to learn how true it is of the real world and stop being surprised by it. Saddened perhaps, but not angry and certainly not surprised.

      Guys here have pretty much wised up to the realities of the world. But the disney fiction is deeply ingrained in the rest of the planet. This stuff plays out every day in 99% of the population.

      Women really do have most men fooled.

      [–]Screenp2 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      Getting to that point is the Acceptance phase, and let me say it's a breath of fresh air when you get here.

      [–]warjesus420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Keep thinking I'm getting there, I'll be like well it's sad but I guess I gotta just accept it, then suddenly things will get me angry and depressed all over again and and I realize that I haven't actually accepted it if it still gets me down/mad. Then I really see how long of a way I still have.

      [–]blue_27 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Honestly, man ... who are you mad at?

      [–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (8 children)

      I have no pity for this guy. Sure, he is a poor plugged-in beta but remember he is also the SJW who will start a fight with you, hate you and make everything he can to destroy your life. Plus, the only way for him to get better is to get burned.

      I enjoy these post. It's like a TV show for red pillers. "who will she ride next? Will she be able to secure commitment and get a ring before he changes his mind? Will his sister have a change of heart and decide to support her family?"

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 7 points8 points  (4 children)

      he is a poor plugged-in beta but remember he is also the SJW who will start a fight with you, hate you and make everything he can to destroy your life.

      Not necessarily. We have no evidence for that, not all betas behave like that all the time.

      [–]Ibex3D 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Also, we don't know how beta he is. She was traumatically raped. Who the hell knows how to react to that? He was and still is doing what all the people he trusts in his life are telling him is right. You can tell he knows what he should do but his entire social circle is shaming him for thinking that way. It's like psychological warfare. Pretty fucked up.

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Also, we don't know how beta he is.

      Oh, he's beta alright. He's accepting input from everyone other than his own instincts and male friends. He's taking her back because she was able to kiss him once, despite her behaviour.

      When the behaviour doesn't match up with the words, you have all the red flags you need. At that point you stop listening to either and realise you're dealing with a dangerous manipulative dishonest creature. Or... if you're a beta.... you hamster it away and forgive her, lying to yourself about her nature, preferring to live in a disney-esque world of false dreams, ignoring that gnawing nagging "this just isn't right" feeling in the back of your head.

      It's like psychological warfare. Pretty fucked up.

      Not 'like'. It is psychological warfare. His innate decency is being co-opted to serve the woman, enforced by shame where necessary.

      Once you see women's dualistic mating strategy and the reasons for lying about it, you see all their behaviour as securing AF or BB. No more lies along the lines of "Your betabux are just as attractive as his abs" will be believed.

      But if you're not TRP.... and you don't know there is a dualistic mating strategy... it's easy to think in terms of "she made a mistake" and "she loves me really" and "of course she's totally hot for me, she's just tired right now". Like the poor schlub in OP's article.

      If this isn't psychological warfare on a grand scale, I don't know what is. A dualistic mating strategy that has been hidden from men for generations, and the accepted norms that she can do whatever she wants and men have to be ok with it. Kind of impressive. And deeply self serving.

      [–]BetterRedThanRed 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      There will be chapter 3, because this is all just "literotica" for cuckolds.

      Look, she did not talk with him for one year (365 days). On day 365 OP decides to inform reddit. On day 365-370 a lot of stuff happens. On day 370 OP gives us an update.

      So either OP knew exactly that he has to wait 365 days to tell his story to get a good update within one week. Or OP made this all up.

      Also, OP writes it in a way that he exactly know that he is humiliated...

      [–]pwnerofnoob 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Or someone will find his vague obituary(suicide).

      [–]nedshred 200 points201 points  (46 children)

      The top gilded comment says it all really. It highlights the importance of taking a step back:

      Look, no one knows this situation better than you. Certainly not a bunch of random people on the internet. Having said that, we can look at the facts you presented in a completely objective way that you (or anyone else in your shoes) would be unable to. Here are some points to be made from your posts:

      1) No one from Sara’s family thought it was important to keep you up-to-date on a regular basis on her progress (from your first message). The minute they found out that you could be leaving, they approached you and took up hours and hours of your time. Even if it meant cutting into your sleep for work. This is a consistent theme in your posts. Who the hell is looking out for you? You’ve been asked to make ever sacrifice, understand every indiscretion, and suppress every feeling you have.

      2) Your sister and Susan asked you to give it a week before making any decision. 24 hours later, Sara is at your door asking you not to leave and to give her a second chance. This seems far too convenient. Once they confirmed it was in fact you (and this includes your sister), they bombarded you with a guilt trip and then Sara herself came over to do a complete 180.

      3) Sara didn’t want to see you for months, didn’t want to hear you say “I love you” and couldn’t even kiss you – all due to her recovery. Within 24 hours of confirming your post on Reddit, she’s sleeping with you. I really hope you used protection.

      4) Again, Sara wanted no contact with you. Couldn’t touch you, couldn’t kiss you. This was all part of her recovery. Yet she had no issue being with another guy. I feel like I need to be explicit with this. Your girlfriend, who had no interest in holding your hand, had no issue being naked with another guy, kissing him or having him inside of her. Yet she pulled back on a kiss from you. Couldn’t hear you say that you loved her. On some level, she clearly had some issue with you specifically. So much so, she didn’t have any interest in even seeing you for long periods. Whatever the issue was, it subsided the minute she found out you were considering leaving.

      I don’t want to sound insensitive because Sara was brutally raped and how does one ever really recover from that? But one of the top comments from your first post I thought was spot on. The girl you knew is gone. And this Sara didn’t care about you as anything more than a casual friend. She replaced you on a physical intimacy level. She didn’t want to have anything more than occasional meetings with shallow conversations with you. She told you about her indiscretion with her therapist, which I thought was so unfair. It was, in my view, a way to control your reaction so that you couldn’t let out all your emotions in front of a stranger. The minute you got really angry, you were asked to leave and then felt compelled to apologize for your reaction to her cheating on you. How is any of this fair to you?It really seems that these people don’t care about you, only what you can do to make someone else’s (in this case Sara and her family) life easier/better/less painful. How does it make any sense that these people who supposedly care about you only saw how unfair their actions were once they saw it on paper? You took the high road and didn’t blame them, which is a reflection on your character. But what do their actions say about theirs?I hope I’m completely wrong and maybe a bunch of downvotes will tell you that my view is clearly an anomaly and this is a true love story. I really hope that happens. If you think anything I’ve said is correct, just know you don’t have to settle. And more importantly, there is no future holding on to the past, man.

      [–]rpthrowawayaway 130 points131 points  (28 children)

      "I hope you used protection"

      Update 3: I'm having a baby!

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      [–]Nebulose11 77 points78 points  (21 children)

      Update 5: I get to keep the kid!

      [–]kanji_sasahara 89 points90 points  (12 children)

      Update 6: Got a paternity test and found out the kid isn't mine.

      [–]BooksofMagic 84 points85 points  (10 children)

      Update 7: Even though the kid isn't mine, I'm going to keep on taking care of him. It's not the kids fault mommy was a hoe, so I'm going to spend all my limited resources taking care of Chad's kid. Then he can grow up and bang bitches like his dear old daddy did.

      [–]RemyPrice 60 points61 points  (7 children)

      Update 8: We've agreed to an open relationship instead of a divorce, so we can stay together for the kid's sake! I told her I will babysit while she goes out three nights a week to "find herself."

      [–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (5 children)

      Update 9: My kid wants her "real dad" to give her away at her wedding, what do I do?

      [–]proof_TRP_works 50 points51 points  (3 children)

      Update 10: well it's been real reddit. I lived my life to the fullest by dutifully raising another mans child, supporting my former wife financially and emotionally for the past 2 decades through her cascade of new lovers. Sometimes when I'm in bed alone I think maybe I should have followed that gut instinct I had when I still had the chance to dump her over the "rape" incident. Nah, I wouldn't change a thing.

      gun blast

      thud

      [–]alanthemanofchicago 27 points28 points  (1 child)

      Update 11: Man found dead in subway station in the South Loop. No cameras captured the incident.

      [–]TormundGiantsbain 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      This is essentially the askreddit thread of the guys who found out their wives cheated. Fucking sickening.

      [–]BooksofMagic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      You can find pieces of this 'story' all over the relationship subreddits. Always the same basic story with some minor variations.

      Truly sad how formulaic they all are. Lots of poor bastards that don't realize their own self worth.

      [–]Diabolical_Nuke 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Update 7: I still love the kid though, and I'll be damned if I won't take good care of it!

      P.S. Sara is still struggling, and going through a sexual phase. Last I counted she's been with 8 guys the last 3 nights. I know, however, that she will soon see the light and come back to us.

      [–]1ErasmusOrgasmus 20 points21 points  (7 children)

      Not to be morbid and kill the party, but Update 5 is more likely to be a suicide note.

      [–]ObservantOmega 56 points57 points  (3 children)

      "And while it's not your's, but Chad's, I'll pretend you are the daddy."

      There's a sucker born every minute, but that guy takes the cake.

      [–]Glennus626 38 points39 points  (2 children)

      If the girlfriend's character remains constant, she'll announce her pregnancy at the therapist's office, so that when he says "can we do a dna test on your 3 month pregnancy since we just had sex only last week?" they'll both dogpile on him and call him insensitive and brutish and ask him to leave before he apologizes.

      [–]ObservantOmega 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      And judging from what was posted he'll apologize and accept what is happening even though he feels awful.

      [–]TormundGiantsbain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      These comments are too fucking real. This shit makes me sick with rage.

      [–]Eurasianpersuasion01 82 points83 points  (5 children)

      Agreed, the gold comment nailed it. At first I thought it was just a really sad situation with no one to blame but after that update it's VERY clear that the OP is getting played and that the girlfriend is a piece of shit. It's so blatantly obvious that I am beginning to become skeptical of this story. It's starting to read like some weird elliot rodger fantasy.

      [–]Ryanphy 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      In fact, that comment is so good, I'm gonna head over just to upvote it.

      [–]iamz3ro 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      that the girlfriend is a piece of shit

      God damn it this. My exact thoughts after reading through all 3 updates. She is a fucking piece of shit and I hope both Chad and Sara will see this.

      [–]chickenparade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It's so blatantly obvious that I am beginning to become skeptical of this story. It's starting to read like some weird elliot rodger fantasy.

      I was starting to think this after this update as well. The story has a very similar ring to the mylifesuxnow saga with all the super detailed updates.

      [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (8 children)

      Great comment. This isn't a movie, where the hero makes a grand gesture and everything is fixed forever and ever. It's life. They'll both be happier if they just move on without each other.

      [–]ObservantOmega 27 points28 points  (7 children)

      He would be happier, she's is happy right now since she has her cake and eats it too.

      [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (6 children)

      In the short term. In the long term, she'll be miserable because she clearly doesn't really want him, she just doesn't want to be dumped.

      [–]ObservantOmega 7 points8 points  (4 children)

      In the long term, if she is not satisfied, she'll dump him and either find another chump to use or hit the wall and stay single (and oh so bitter). AWALT and we have all seen this before.

      [–]rpscrote 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      Women are never happy in the long term because they don't understand what happiness is. protip: its not hedonist pleasure chasing until you die

      [–]Ibex3D 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      You're stupid. Of course that's what true happiness. Pure pleasure seeking every minute of every day. Now if you'll excuse me, i need to find a fresh vein to shoot up into. All my normal spots have scarred over.

      [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      The top gilded comment

      I should really read relationships more often if I want reddit freebies. After all, threads like that are a true goldmine for exercises in stern law-abiding writing.

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 37 points38 points  (4 children)

      The worst thing that can happy to a couple--any couple--is that a therapist gets in b/w them and dopes the woman up on evil spirits, etc. It's the Kiss of Death.

      [–]1rp-oldgame 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      So true. I lived it.

      The moment she told me she was seeing a therapist, inside I said, "Fuck. I know where this is going". Annnnd I was right. ha!

      [–]MackDiesel 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      What do you mean by "dopes the woman up on evil spirits" in this context? I'm not familiar with how therapists commonly work with couples from a RP perspective.

      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Therapists generally don't work with couples "from a RP perspective" b/c one can usually think of the therapist as a Giant, External Hamster telling the woman that the guy is always wrong, it was ok for the woman to do whatever squirrely shit that she did like deny the boyfriend while banging a co-worker b/c she was "reclaiming her sexuality" or some other retarded shit.

      [–]AndrewAtrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      And there's nothing worse for feeding a hamster than an "authority" agreeing with it.

      [–][deleted]  (21 children)

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      [–]lizzardbwain 36 points37 points  (0 children)

      Couldn't believe it myself, but now I see the reality of it.

      [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (12 children)

      You are right.

      Dread game is proof that men are the prize. Dread game would not work if mens commitment was not the sought after treasure that it is.

      OP is too blinded with bluepill haze to see that Dread should always be present in an LTR. There are different levels of dread but level zero is not an option if you want to keep a woman working for your approval

      [–]Modredpillschool 41 points42 points  (11 children)

      Dread done properly is unspoken and covert. This was ultimatum game- which is coming from a position of weakness (whereas proper dread is from a position of strength).

      From Rollo:

      Whenever a person delivers an ultimatum, always understand that this is a declaration of powerlessness. In other words, “I am so out of control in this circumstance you must do this or I will remove either myself or you from the circumstance.”

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (7 children)

      Thats a fair point.

      Question....why do women respond to ultimatums if they display such weakness?

      [–]Modredpillschool 15 points16 points  (5 children)

      They respond immediately to cure the immedate itch- which is that an ultimatum exists. But the emotional impact and consequences may be further down the line. You might not see it, but it will not be an effective long term strategy. She may do what it takes to keep you from leaving right then and there- but that doesn't mean you've affected her attraction to you. You haven't. How she feels won't be modified in the same way as real dread.

      I've always had a bit of a thing with dread game, because I'm not sure if it's the chicken leading or the egg.

      Essentially, dread is supposed to convey that you have options and you can take them.

      But that's also a portion of what preselection is based off of- the idea that you have options conveys that you are attractive to other women. Women are attracted to men who other women are attracted to.

      So having an aloof attitude and getting fit will demonstrate to her that you have options, but ultimately you have options because you have an aloof attitude and you got fit.

      But nevertheless, none of these things is trying to negotiate attraction. Which does not work. And that's what an ultimatum is.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Makes sesne. The best results I have had from employing dread were deeply covert.

      Buying new underwear. Lifting. Talking with shop girls.

      [–]Modredpillschool 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      Exactly. It has to remain covert. Ultimatums are just another form of trying to negotiate attraction.

      That said, subtle ultimatums do have a place in a proper relationship, but from a different perspective. It should not be deployed to achieve or try to reattain attraction, but it should be used for discipline.

      For instance, when your girl acts out or throws a shit test, you can say calmly that you won't be tolerating that behavior. That's an implied ultimatum. But this isn't negotiating attraction, this is the other side of the coin. You know your value and you are enforcing it.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Yup

      Which brings back the chicken and egg.

      When I have laid down the law about intolerable behaviors I usually see tears (which I ignore). Hours later we are fucking.

      Saying NO and holding frame in the face of irrational female demands is the best foreplay ever

      [–]let_terror_reign 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It's because in several of these cases, the woman's SMV is not much higher(IF AT ALL) than the guy's. Not enough to get a Chad or a better Billy beta. What this guy's beta traits have done is artificially convince her that she's higher SMV than him. When he threatens to leave, he's raising his momentary SMV by saying I'm not putting up with this shit, I'm willing to walk. By simulating caring less at that point, he's dread gaming her since woman are so in the moment.
      Sort of related to RPS's answer I think, but not quite.

      [–]rpscrote 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      agreed- he isn't really a prize to her at all. He's just a walking wallet. The ultimatum would cause her temporary grief and discomfort though being better in the long run for both, and women can't predict past "I must stop this thing thats making me feel bad!"

      [–]Endorsed ContributorNiftyDolphin 9 points10 points  (4 children)

      It's not dread game.

      She's not crawling back because he's leaving, she's crawling back because his posts have gone public and she looks like a complete shit-heel instead of the Victim she's been working (very hard) to portray herself as.

      Right now she's riding the wave of feels that this drama is creating, but once that calms down she's going to be seething that her "servant" has put her Nice-Victim-Girl image through the wringer.

      Prediction: She's going to be revenge-fucking her coworker within ten days, because Chad "drove her to it" with his mistrust.

      [–]Dr_Acu1a 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It's fucking unreal how well it works.

      [–]Dueperdue 30 points31 points  (1 child)

      I find the post utterly disgusting. Really, just fucking no.

      [–]Spiral-knight 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      I struggle to find the words to leave my own comment

      [–]vincent636 84 points85 points  (14 children)

      Seems likely that on some level this woman is resentful towards the man because he was unable to protect her from being raped.

      [–]1ErasmusOrgasmus 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      And by pure coincidence, what are the chances that the co-worker she fucked is 6'2" and lifts, the type of guy who instinctively looks like he could protect her from a would-be rapist?

      [–]SilentForTooLong 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      I am really surprised this didn't end up being explicitly stated in the update. Still feels that way.

      [–]HellfirePeninsula 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      That is an insightful observation of a possibility.

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

      Interesting insight. Even though it holds no basis in reality (not that women need that to be the case), it would explain her disgust with him along with her desire to fuck her coworker.

      [–]dicarlok 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Their relationship could also have been crashing and burning pre-rape, and the situation just magnified the problems. During the healing process she just couldn't be assed to keep pretending.

      [–]despoticVeracity 27 points28 points  (6 children)

      My bet is that it's a cuck getting off on it.

      Brutal knife rape of wife? Feeling powerless to stop it? Wife fucking another dude for healing? Intimacy restored after said fucking? 'Reclaiming' his wife?

      He doesn't even say she's broken things off with the other guy. My bet is that it'll come back that she's fucking both of them. Probably something about how she went from one to the other in a single night.

      [–]BooksofMagic 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      He doesn't even say she's broken things off with the other guy.

      Actually, in one of the previous posts he tells how he forced this girl (I won't call her his GF) to quit her new job after finding out about the cheating.

      I flat out tell her right up front when I see her that for me to even consider going forward with this that she has to cut this other guy off period. She tells me that is impossible because they work together and I tell her that I'm sorry but I won't even consider it if she is going to see this guy everyday. She decides to find another job...

      She changes jobs and we go back to our lunch's...

      [–]merodiaj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      But did she break it off?

      I suspect the writer will find she switched jobs but maintained contact. The audience will be outraged.

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      [–]1sardinemanR 87 points88 points  (27 children)

      lol team woman overrides all blood bonds. Even a mother will side with a divorcing cheating daughter-in-law over her own son. That's just how women work.

      Men don't back each other up, most are so thirsty they think they have a shot at the used up whore and it excites them.

      Women always back each other up and will never back a man up, or at sometime in the past 50 years a woman would have stood up and short circuited feminism by insisting "hey, what about my brother/son/father/husband whom I love?" and that would have been the end of it.

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        [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 49 points50 points  (1 child)

        They don't think that far. To quote girlwriteswhat:

        This debacle of a gender war is not just on the minority of women who are feminists--it's on most women who've not just tolerated it, but viewed the social and legal changes the way looters view a race riot. Sure, they might not care about the issues, but they'll happily take advantage of the measures feminists have managed to enact, or to ignore the way those measures unjustly harm men until the moment they feel personally victimized through the men they care about. The average woman will be 100% in favor of child support right up until her own kids have to go without figure skating lessons so her husband can make child support payments to his ex for kids he's never allowed to see. They'll collectively cheer the "advance" of women in education right up until their daughters can't find a man worth marrying. They'll laud efforts to make "rapists" more easily convicted until the unforeseen day their own son is falsely accused.

        [–]sadleaf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Well the problem with that is that usually feminists don't want to marry or have kids at all, so is the normal woman that'll end up suffering and not the feminists.

        [–]wanderer779 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        actually to be fair most women don't support feminism. That doesn't stop them from abusing the power it has given them though. The hamster is a complex animal sometimes.

        [–]MordorsFinest 77 points78 points  (14 children)

        He just has the worst sister of all time. My mom always takes my side publicly against outsiders, though privately she will definitely let me know where and how I fucked up.

        It's really American for people to use ideology and money to take sides against their immediate blood family. His sister, literally, deserves to be fed to pigs for taking the side of some whore against her own brother. Her own brother. I want to beat her with my own hands for that alone. You never take the side of an outsider against your immediate family.

        [–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (1 child)

        Like seriously? Your brother just got cheated on, humiliated, cuckolded, used for his time and money by some whore? And you're on her side still? What a traitorous piece of shit you are. A real sister would egg her fucking house and call her a dirty slut and make it known, use woman-tactics to fuck her life up. Or at least be fucking neutral on it, but Jesus Christ,

        [–]Endorsed ContributorNiftyDolphin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Solipsism, her sister is thinking, "What if I was raped?" She would want all of the advantages that the OP gave to his GF. So it's in her best interests for her brother to "do the right thing."

        [–]Spiral-knight 11 points12 points  (11 children)

        Family can be wrong. Blood ties are not infallible and should never, never be treated as such

        [–]MordorsFinest 34 points35 points  (7 children)

        I dont take sides against my immediate family with outsiders. It's disgusting to do that. You can call them out in private and not help them do something wrong, but you dont help outsiders. His sister helped some whore pressure him into a relationship. I may side with men on a lot of things, but the day my sister has a problem with one I don't care what she did i'm on her side against any chump.

        [–]Spiral-knight 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        On the other hand as somebody with little to no close family I can't bring myself to a place where I understand that mindset. Your family should be held to higher standards in public and privately, if kin need to be called out, shamed or suffer consequence for their actions then make it a learning experience. Stepping up to protect a family member who deserves what they have coming and then chewing them out later only shows that you'll stand in against any real consequence.

        To use your sister as an example. You step up and threaten an Ex she fucked over teaches her that she's got a bodyguard for a few minutes of disinterested nodding

        [–]asianmasaccount 7 points8 points  (3 children)

        Yea I find this weird about Americans too. I'm in Texas and not even the conservative families will do this. It's the liberal ones that will.

        It's fucking weird.

        [–]MordorsFinest 9 points10 points  (2 children)

        Yeah and the people disagreeing don't seem to read. Like if I got in a fight at school my mom would yell at the principal for not preventing kids from picking on me and would listen carefully when teachers say I acted up and use my defenses and stand up for me.

        But you bet when she got home from those meetings I'd get yelled at, told not to get into fights, not to talk back, get grounded and have privileges justly removed. I was taught right from wrong and was taught that I'm not always right but I can still count on my family to stand up for me in public. It's possible to be honest with your family and correct their behavior at home without publicly denouncing them or taking sides against them with strangers.

        [–]asianmasaccount 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        It's a blessing nowadays to have been raised in an intact 2 parent household or even with just 1 good parent. I usually try to kinda reserve judgement when people are weird like that.

        [–]MordorsFinest 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        In some cases i do, but the way that girl sold her brother downriver to help some slut is too far.

        [–]solbrothers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I can agree in some cases but not this one.

        [–]DrMrPepper 40 points41 points  (1 child)

        I have 3 sisters. They have run off more than 3 girls. His sister just sounds like a POS.

        [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

        That's how family is supposed to behave.

        [–]skoobled 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        They aren't standing up for "team woman", though. Other women are proxies for situations they themselves could get into, and therefore they want to ensure that they would come out on top. They don't really care about the other woman. Ergo, who matters more than any man? Themselves.

        Just solipsism. Nothing new to see here. Move along.

        [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        That's exactly what team woman means

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        That was a deal brekaer for me : women place other women (even strangers) before their own blood.

        [–][deleted] 72 points73 points  (9 children)

        This is an obvious troll post, it's way to contrived and has all the markers of being justice porn gone wrong. Even if it's true, only a complete blue pill retard would go back to the girlfriend who cheated on him after a year of no physical contact. What a downright disgusting update.

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Feels fake to me. Too many details, too many updates.

        [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Yup, and the majority of relationships-posters thinks the same.

        With the exception that they actually believe it.

        [–]solbrothers 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        only a complete blue pill retard

        So it isnt that unbelievable after all.

        [–]lurking_got_old 13 points14 points  (3 children)

        I don't know. Between Reddit's large and moderately diverse user base the odds that any given scenario are pretty good.

        So while there is no problem with being sceptical, there is almost no limit to the things people can rationalize for themselves.

        [–]BetterRedThanRed 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        About 50% on the Internet is porn.

        It is way more likely that someone gets off writing this than someone actually asking reddit for advice here...

        [–]Newdist2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I don't know. Between Reddit's large and moderately diverse user base the odds that any given scenario are pretty good.

        The scenario could be real.

        The way it was written and the fact that it was written... less real.

        [–]IronMeltsinmyHands 17 points18 points  (14 children)

        Jeezus. This guy is worse than Ross with his lesbian wife!

        [–]Quintus_Pillus 27 points28 points  (8 children)

        "Friends" is basically unwatchable after swallowing the red pill. Ross has that student as a redeeming moment (Bruce Willis' character's daughter), but Chandler? Joey is the only one displaying alpha traits and he's borderline retarded. Mike (Phoebe's fiance) also got it.

        [–]Vigilo_Infinite 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Too right.

        When the entirety of it was added to netflix, I was looking forward to some nostalgia. Now all I get is a childish lack of integrity from 6 tools that are supposed to be the same age as me. People give me funny looks when I say "no-one can possibly be living their lives like this..."

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

        Don't forget that Phoebe wanted to fuck that scientist, mostly because he made himself unavailable. Nerd? Yes. Alpha due to scarcity? Yes.

        [–]IndyBrodaSolo 3 points4 points  (4 children)

        What Ross did wrong with his lesbian wife? As far as I remember he didn't have oneitis for her and he went on and fucked Jennifer Aniston.

        [–]RojoEscarlata 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        He has a "three some" with her and his wife's friend (a female), and got relegated pretty quickly to just stand there and watch (he even made a sandwich :D)

        So yeah, he got cucked.

        [–]WAFC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Well...the threesome was actually in an alternate timeline episode (I want to say it's titled "The One that Could Have Been) where Carol doesn't leave Ross after 'learning' she's a dyke. So it didn't happen in the actual storyline of the show, but it could have happened if things had gone down differently.

        [–]WAFC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        He definitely had oneitis for Carol initially, it's just that he had a stronger oneitis for Rachel. Even when I was blue pill Ross was my least favorite character because of how cringeworthy and spineless he was.

        Actually, I don't even know if he had oneitis for Carol. It was presented more as he felt being divorced was a huge sign of failure and wanted to avoid that at all costs.

        [–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 16 points17 points  (2 children)

        It's a damn shame the thread was locked. Here's what I ended up messaging to him:


        Learn from this guy:

        https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/3e127d/girl_ive_been_seeing_cant_have_sexmedical_reasons/

        After reading the comments I know what I gotta do. I'm still gonna feel like a dick though, cause I can't even imagine how awful it would be being in her situation.

        Like him, all you're doing at this point is PITY DATING her. How is that any better than her giving you an occasional pity fuck?

        You need to realize the only reason you're wanting to say with her is out of sunk cost fallacy at this point. It's a thing, look it up. That, and some misplaced idea of being loyal to someone who isn't loyal back to you. Your relationship is about as one-sided as they come. Don't be that guy.

        Furthermore, she's already demonstrated with ample evidence that she's capable of having sex, just that she doesn't WANT to have sex with you. Other people she has no problem with of course. :eyeroll: To be clear, the only reason she did have sex with you this time was out of fear of losing you. Do you really think a relationship based on fear is healthy in any way, shape, or form????

        You know full well what you need to do, but you're letting others decide for you allowing them to bully, intimidate, and shaming you into staying with her. Man up and do what you need to do for you.

        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        "Love" is the greatest lie ever told. You really can get just about anyone to do damn near whatever you want if you can convince them that "love" is the motive behind their actions.

        Why is this? Because so many of us are controlled by outside validation and are brainwashed by media - music, movies, books - to believe in these fairy tales. "Love" these days is anything but loving. It's self-sacrificing and self-harming. It's an addiction, no matter how well it may be sugar coated by society. Do you want an addiction? Because when you buy into the fantasy of "love" you're buying into an addiction. And it's one that doesn't even feel good half the time.

        As men, we should strive to be rational and see these fantasies as what they are. A woman will not love you the way you want to be loved. No person on this earth can love you the way that you want to be loved. Because humans are selfish creatures and we're all looking out for number one. Stop looking for validation outside of yourself. You don't need to be "loved" to be happy and you definitely don't have to provide for some ungrateful bitch to be happy.

        [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Here is an interesting question: How long is the reclaiming my sexuality excuse valid for?

        Because if its valid for one cock its definitely valid for two.

        [–]Nebulose11 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        She has taken on the roll of victim: The excuse will go on forever.

        [–]JamesK1973 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        The comments on that thread are very Red Pill.

        [–]Soriq 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        "what can you do to make me love you, other than use the pussy on attack mode?"

        I fucking miss Patrice O'neal man.

        [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        I sincerely hope that this is another of the relationships-fake stories. The fact that the prior entries were so artfully crafted actually made me think "I bet the author makes the protagonist cave in under pressure and crawl back to her to deny the audience the catharsis of seeing him dump that bitch" - also because we already had that ending before (with the guy who made up with the slutty wife who insisted on him beating up two guys who "badmouthed" her, i.e. talking about how things were with her).

        [–]1NV0K3R 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        My favorite line from the post

        been the happiest four days

        What's four days when you have the rest of your life?

        [–]antwonedw 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        at first i felt a little sympathy for his situation.

        Still thought he was dumb for staying that long.

        Now i have no sympathy and think he's dumb as shit.

        He deserves the shit that will come from the fucked up relationship with the fucked up shell of a woman his gf is now.

        His choice is be a stupid patsy. Dumb fuck.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Wow. That's fucked up.

        I wonder, when his future wife cheats on him, what will his sister say to him then? Will she apologize to him for leading him back to that skank? Will she run roughshod over his wife to keep her in line and fucking up her brother's life?

        Probably not. Sadly, even after the marriage ends and I'll bet it's 95% certain that his sister won't give a single fuck and certainly won't accept any of the blame.

        Worst of all he probably still won't learn a fucking thing and will find himself right back in that spot again some day.

        [–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I think I can see OPs balls...wait...wait..

        Nope there was just dirt on my screen.

        [–]3rt41 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Thank god my sister actually cleared my head when i had to end my shitty relationships in my bp days. This guy is fucked.

        [–]WAFC 3 points4 points  (5 children)

        And of course the post is locked because he's not getting advice about how his gf is an golden princess just having a hard time.

        I know, I know, I shouldn't want to 'save a beta,' but I can't help but think there should be a disclaimer on that sub to men that the place is run by the feminine imperative.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Let them get fucked over by their golden princesses. Those beta fucks would fuck us over in an instant just to lick the shit off of a bitches asshole. They would attempt to kill any one of us thinking that they can save a golden princess from our King Kong arms. They have no honor as men.

        [–]WAFC 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        You just assume all men who seek advice are shit-eating betas? Maybe. I just don't think that way.

        [–]juliusstreicher 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        So, was the 'showing him that she loved [him] as well' when she fucked him, or when she fucked her co-worker? I get so confused by all of this Real Love stuff...

        [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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        [–]kinklianekoff 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Yet another body...

        What astounds me most is the behaviour of his family.

        I think the "team woman" dynamic his mother and sister apparently displays isn't as irrationally adversarial to him as it seems on the surface.

        I think this is rooted in the need to propagate family so any woman willing to take a beta brother in is such a scarce thing that they will go to great lengths to maintain it.

        So really, they are putting their instinctual judgements of his chance of propagation before his well being.

        "Team woman" I've never thought plausible, neither on the societal level(feminine imperative) or social. It's all about those eggs. The well being of men is not even in the equation.

        [–]Nebulose11 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Team woman only exists when there is a man around to bear the brunt of it. Otherwise they devolve into petty attacks on one another.

        [–]Pm_MeyourManBoobs 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Some men only want to be loved.

        [–]nantucketghost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        deleted What is this?

        [–]Tarnsman4Life 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        He could of escaped if he just went with his gut and ran out the front door instead of running upstairs. He was so close to becoming a real man. Now he is going to be BB and a cuck, my bet is she's not done reclaiming her sexuality by a long shot.

        [–]Izzenw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I don't feel a single bit of pitty for this guy. He deserves the shitty life he by himself got into.

        [–]1Jaereth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        All she said to me was "are you really going to leave me"? I couldn't answer, I just looked into her eyes and felt broken and ashamed.

        She fucked another guy and again, he's the one ashamed.

        This is the most telling line right here. He's not ashamed of the actual sex that was had between her and the co-worker. He's ashamed of himself. That's why he feels broken. He realizes, if only in his hind-brain, that he was on the cusp. He could have broke free and kept his dignity and moved on. But instead, he took easy street (Is anything in life worth having easy?) and decided he'd just stay in his comfort zone.

        He's so confused. He has no idea. Notice he feels broken and ashamed "when he looks in her eyes". Well news flash, you just signed up for a whole lot more of that when you agreed to take her back. I've seen this time and time again. He is actually disgusted by her now, but can't bring himself to let go of whatever fairy tale vision of their life together that he trumped up in his head.

        The moral of the story? Don't be afraid to walk away boys. At any time. Don't pedistalize women, they are all replaceable. Keep yourself in a manner that if you suddenly do have to reenter the SMP, you'll do fine.

        [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        First of all if any woman ever treated one of my brothers this way, no fucking way would I tell him to stay with her. But yet apparently some women stick together no matter what.

        This is because women can only empathize with other women. She sees this situation and can only put herself into the story as the female character. She can barely understand what it must be like to be her brother.

        She fucked another guy and again, he's the one ashamed

        The thoughts behind this are very complex. He has been neglected and treated like shit for a very long time. It has fucked with his self esteem and made him feel like shit this whole time. He eventually sunk so low that he feels sorry and ashamed for standing up for himself. He doesn't feel worth anything at this point. Treat someone badly for long enough and they will feel like they deserve it.

        I messaged the guy and told him that he is just on a chemical high at the moment and the reality of how shitty he has been treated will sink in he will come to his senses. Here's to hoping

        [–]RojoEscarlata 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        What an idiot, he deserves everything coming his way.

        [–]TheDialecticParadox 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Law and Order: Blue-Pill Victims Unit.

        DUN-DUN.

        In all seriousness, it's good to see an update to my original post. Well, actually it's not good because I expected this guy to have some sort of backbone and move on, but he has shown us a new circle of self-admitted Blue-Pill hell.

        There's no way around it, this guy is going to get fucking gutted eventually. My bets are G/f gets pregnant from chad and keeps OP as Beta provider.

        [–]GainzdalfTheWhey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Today I was weak, I couldn't finish this horror story, gave me that symptom of impeding doom lol

        [–]DoDraper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Down the line may be within 2 years he'll regret this very decision. Or may be he may find the RP after wasting too many years and too many resources to count.

        [–]rockmasterflex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Hey look a marriage that'll end in suicide.

        [–]RedPillJohnny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I am not sure if this has been said yet but girls who have been raped are psychologically damaged. Unless she gets over it in a red pill manner (how that goes down I don't know) and doesn't buy into the "lifetime victim complex" bullshit, she is going to have all sorts of problems like this..for life. If a healthy woman wants to be dominated and wants to feel a mans power during sexual intercourse, then rape, non consensual and most likely violent sex, fucks with her ability to enjoy sex and to give herself to her man freely and without restriction. I have experience with this and trust me, no young man is capable of dealing with entering into a relationship with a woman who has been raped. I am not saying don't show compassion...I am not saying that these women don't need love and compassion...they need a lot of it...but what I am saying is to show compassion at a distance because it'll fuck up your life too. Rapists damage women permanently.

        [–]GruberHof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        You forgot the best part.. She read the reddit posts and comments.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It's been a very long time since I've had any type of close contact and let's just say its not a lot of fun being called a disgusting pig

        His own sister wants to put him in a shit crap relationship. Herd behavior mentality. Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks over family.

        [–]Entershikari 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I've never rage so much at a story from an internet anonymous guy.

        The stupidity of other really infuriate me sometime.

        I should be more stoic and meditate.

        The greatest thing I've learn from here is from mistake of others.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Reading this post literally made me want to cry. That poor mother fucker… God help his soul.

        [–]TankVet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I know AWALT and I have seen this behavior more times than I can remember, but every time I see a story like this I am again astounded by how easily women demand men to ruin their lives for the sake of female emotional whims.

        [–]dandar4600 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Don't underestimate the power a pussy has over a guy that hasn't gotten any in over a year. He is not leaving her now no matter what.

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          [–]BleauGumms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Some dudes just like being a doormat.

          Maybe he also likes the way another man's cum lubricates his girlfriend's pussy.

          [–]GoldPisseR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Don't believe that shit for one second

          [–]lyspr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          You know, I've been reading TRP and MGTOW for a while, and there is something you guys just don't understand.

          You can lead a horse to water, but sometimes they're just too fucking stupid.

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