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How I went from the biggest loser in school to the most popular kid in school overnight, just like the movies and you can too. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1bromyiqis900

Alright just a quick story for those young guys and even older guys who are, let's say, "labeled" unflatteringly by their current peer group.

I'm in my mid 30's now leading a fucking AWESOME life, but back in grade school and leading to high school I was a scrawny introvert only child with no real friends because my parents weren't smart enough to enroll me in things like sports that would allow me access to a decent life with my peers by making actual friends.

I wasn't weird, and I was actually better looking than a lot of the kids who picked on me, I just wasn't part of the "in" crowd so therefor I was the outsider that all the cool kids could make fun of together so that they didn't have to make fun of each other. All groups need an enemy, if you aren't in the group, you are the enemy.

This constant verbal abuse and stress led to me not surprisingly hating school and failing every single class including gym. I would skip school all the time, teachers actually made fun of me with the kids when they weren't busy telling me I would never amount to anything (I'm not making this up in the slightest).

Keep in mind, I had never done drugs, been loud, caused a scene, or disobeyed authority, yet teachers would actually participate in laughing at jokes made at my expense, tell me I was essentially garbage, or just turn a blind I all together. I would get physically ill at the thought of going to even one day of classes and taking more humiliation.

My father had died the summer of my freshman year, my mother was tortured at how her smart as a whip son was so against school because of course I could never humiliate myself more by telling her I was a loser who had no friends and was constantly made fun of.

This led to basically an intervention just before the end of my sophomore year, staged for the kids who were just heading for the brick wall. Teachers (the good ones who I didn't have), guidance counselors, the principal, my mother, me all sitting at a big round table for a last ditch effort to fix a broken kid.

This is where my mother was pitched on a program called "Alternative Education" a new program where a small building had been rented to create a new school for the three surrounding towns, for the most "lost" kids to have tiny classrooms with the best of the best new age teachers, shorter hours leaving more time for job training and work study, team building, trips, etc.

My mom was on board in the first two minutes and the fact that I could get out of the hellish high school I was in was enough for me to give it a shot.

Cut to a few months later, it is the first day of school in the new alternative ed building in the next town.

This first day of school changed the course of my life forever. It taught me red pill long before red pill, it taught me women, it taught me social hierarchy, all of this, I shit you not, IN.ONE.DAY, the rest was just daily reinforcement of these teachings but I'm skipping ahead.

See this wasn't just the first day of school like any other, this was literally THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL FOR EVERYONE THERE.

Virtually none of the 50 or so kids knew each other, we were all from multiple schools in multiple towns. As we all stood in the giant room that would be the cafeteria, what I saw was incredible, it was like a school dance in 8th grade, with the boys on one side, the girls on the other, but with each boy and girl standing alone, not sure where they should be, afraid, having no group, no identity NO STATUS.

Didn't matter if they were good looking, jacked, funny, smart, how they dressed, none of it, because they had no group, it was starting from scratch, their previous "label" had been stripped away, their former status was null and void, we are all on the island now.

For whatever reason, this made perfect sense to me at 15, probably because I was home watching the Discovery channel every Friday night instead of fucking girls.

I walked up to what you guys would call a complete Chad, basketball player type good looking kid, wearing Abercrombie (at the time, THE brand of clothes for the cool kids) and I made some joke that I've long since forgotten about the situation.

He laughed, and we were instantly friends, two wolves banding together even though he was alpha and I was beta, the alpha wolf doesn't ever want to be a lone wolf, lone wolves get slaughtered, he in only alpha with his pack.

We in that moment, had begun the pack, the cool pack. He had no idea I wasn't cool, in his mind I was as alpha as him, perhaps more so because I had initiated the conversation, made him laugh, put him at ease, taken control.

Immediately others began seeking us out for our approval to join in and latch on to a group.

These kids were a mix of everything, the short tempered ones who got into constant fist fights, the drug addicts, the whores, the smart asses that hated authority.

I won't drone on about the evolution, but in one day I had become the coolest kid in school and remained that way for the two remaining years of high school. I was alpha as fuck to all the girls, girls so fucking hot I couldn't believe it (I mean sure they were the school whores, but they were HB8's and 9's) My lack of muscles at the time was meaningless, I was a leader, I was hilarious, I was liked by everyone so that made me sexy to them.

Alpha Chad was in fact a basketball player, probably a solid 9.5 to any girl, good enough of a ball player to make pussies wet, but not enough for a scholarship hence why his failing ass got shipped to Alt Ed. He taught me how to play basketball, took my in the school gym and got me in good enough shape to look good with my shirt off which was just fine in those days.

The point of this story is to remind you that if you are stuck in a shitty label, or shitty area, you can change it, you can change the scenery and be the anyone you want to be.

People believe what you show them, this is repeated over and over in red pill. You could lift all day, dress better, learn all the cool phrases to make chicks swoon, but if you are the geek, or the loser in your school/town/job you may not get the response you really want, you may just have to change your zip code.

If I had returned that first day of Junior year to my old high school, I would have been suicidal, I probably would have stayed a virgin for years, god knows where my life would be today, but that one freak stroke of luck that sent me to a new place with a brand new identity taught me everything about life.

Today, kids from my first horror high school friend me left and right on social media, word got around how successful I became, they all pretend like we were "friends" and ask me for advice on starting their own businesses, or ask to go out for beers so they can suck up to me. I hear from others how some people say "I can't believe it, he was such a fucking loser, did he go on one of those extreme makeover shows or something? he just got lucky, he was too dumb to ever make that kind of money, probably inherited it, fucking faggot"

The kids from my awesome high school do the same, but they aren't surprised, they all say, "we knew you'd fucking kill it man, you were the coolest guy, always so smart"

Funny how the same person can be the sexiest guy in the room or the cringiest, just depends on the story that's been told to the people looking.


[–]NeoreactionSafe 142 points143 points  (40 children)

 

You don't deserve this level of downvoting.

It sounds like you struggled and you learned... you did good.

 

[–]1bromyiqis900[S] 76 points77 points  (36 children)

Eh, I'm surprised it's seen as a negative but I don't really care, it's the story as it happened and the message was meant to be, if you feel totally lost where you are, you can go and get a fresh start with all you've learned, guess it didn't come across.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 64 points65 points  (33 children)

A lot of guys here are where you started.

They want to hear that success was a long struggle.

Never forget jealous people.

You did good, just keep improving and spread the Red Pill when you can.

This is all we can do.

Remember that the beta mind wants to struggle. In the Matrix movie that was part of the programming that people need to believe that struggle earns results. When you make a sudden move and surprise people with Game that disturbs their idea of how things work so they dismiss it's truth.

You got it... you learned the Game.

 

[–]RPmatrix 8 points9 points  (20 children)

They want to hear that success was a long struggle.

OP's title and 'story' say it happened "overnight"

It's no great effort leeching onto some lonely 'chad' and living off the scraps he leaves is no great achievement in my books Especially if you've got the abilty to make people laugh, as OP says he has..

BUT, a glance through your posting history brings up comments like

I came from a poor single mother, no college, no scholarships for my terrible grades.

OR

Source: I live in an expensive house with small children and I get ads for all kinds of shit like this including muralists that charge upwards of $10,000 to paint a room scene.

My kids can go fuck themselves though, I grew up being spoiled rotten and it took incredible work to become a decently adjusted human being that didn't expect the world to give him everything..

and YET!

Most people have it far better than I did, some have it a bit worse

and

My best friend growing up was able to figure out (accept) his son wasn't his after a couple years of lying to himself.

he doesn't sound much like the guy you describe .... and you can't say you were "raised by a single mum BUT *had a father until 15yo?! hmmm???

The fat bitch that baby trapped him admitted she had also been fucking the drug addict ginger kid in the apartment upstairs during their relationship before moving in together (I only point out ginger because that is what made the kid OBVIOUSLY not his from the moment of birth)

Is this the CT you descibe? lol

I've been mentoring a 17yo natty HG7 with a great voice, (he's not the only one, but he's been the most sincere) and (who's Now, an "ex" mormon -- he just needed "alternative ways of thinking" about such things, which I gave him from my Buddhist beliefs -- not unlike how TRP helps guys "reprogram" their mistaken beliefs foisted on them by deluded parents and peers)

I read a post of this kid's online, who was in his own words "an introverted overweight BP SJW who couldn't believe women could be as TRP suggests" and had come to TRP after his oneitis "broke his heart"

That was ~7-8mths ago and I spent many hours helping this kid via pm and later on the ph. Tonight if all goes according to plan (and so far it has) he won't be a virgin in the morning and guess who the 'lucky girl' is? lol ...

He's come a loong way and is growing into a capable, confident and thoughtful young man.

If he keeps it up, with his own Frame and Game he'll be the guy who gets all the girls ... all he needed was the desire to improve and a decent guide to show him the way and explain "why" when he couldn't understand.

Just a thought but other older members like yourself Neo could help a few of the younger guys here in this way, too.

Maybe there's a way that some of us here can help these kids not only 'take' but digest (comprehend) TRP's teachings, as there's as much to UNlearn from TRP as much as there is to learn.

I'm not sure 17yo me would've got TRP, certainly not in less than 8mths! Not without someone to help clarify so much, not just about women but Life and people and the 'better ways' to deal with situations my 18yo mind had yet to even considered, let alone 'understood' and/or known how to utilize them effectively.

Much of TRP's philosophy runs deep, and just reading a few books and hitting the gym is just scratching the surface. In most ways nothing compares to successful RL experience and the confidence which comes with it ... and members like you are just the ticket to do this for the right guys.

[–]mraesthetics 8 points9 points  (7 children)

What the OP wrote is good and all, but it's not feasible for most people to just magically switch up their environment.

In the real world, first impressions matter a lot. If you are seen as a loser in your college, then even if you dress really nice, lift all the time, and say all the right things, you will still be seen as a loser.

It's going to take a lot more work to change people's impression of you.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

wrong, people's impression can change quite fast

It's explained by the fact that in the end, nobody really cares about you.

So if you bring something interesting to the table (new looks, new projects, whatsoever), you'll spark interest

[–]mrrooftops 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A rule of thumb is that it takes +10x the effort to change someone's first impression they have for anything.

[–]ShounenEgo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Caring about you is different from caring about what they can or can't get from you.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I just thought the harsh downvoting warranted giving some encouragement.

We are all on this road to masculine polarity together.

The OP did come off as bragging... and that likely rubbed people the wrong way... but he did show improvement so is deserving of being acknowledged for it.

 

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I hear you bro, and I'm all for encouraging those who deserve it

But after reading the dianetrically opposed comments he's made in the past month alone ... as well as the other reasons I stated, IMHO the OP wasn't one of those, just as many of his posts suggest! (however, that said, I did read a number of very good comments he's made in other subs and upvoted a few of them as they deserved it IMO

Nonetheless, I like guys who will stick up for an underdog if they beleieve it warrants it, and from my experience of your posts I believe you were 'coming from a good place' --- And IF this guy was still a kid <20 I'd agree with you BUT as a mid 30's bullshit artist offering no RP insights which come with the Real Life practice required to share quality RP Pro-tips and general info re: Game, this dude doesn't have an original idea in his head! He's just interested in feeding his ego with 'yes men' going "wow dude, how cool you are!"

I hope you took no offence as none was intended amigo

keep up your quality posts Neo -- I wish mine were as consistent in their quality as yours usually are

what do you think of the "one on one" mentoring idea?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I saw his post sinking at 25% and thought as it died out I'd say things weren't so bad.

Then my "magic touch" seems to have turned him into some kind of superstar.

My intention was just to soften the blow of rejection... I didn't plan this.

 

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (4 children)

haha! You've got a good heart Neo ... I can see how you thought he was just getting shit from jealous kids and stepped in to even the stakes, which IMO is the actions of a man with a well earned True Alpha mindset and Frame ...

But his OP (and it's clickbaity title - "How I became Alpha overnight) just didn't sit right with me, so I had a quick look at his prior posts before I decided and then posted my opinions, which might have come across a bit harsh, but aren't we all trying to 'get past the Bullshit' to get the (at times, uncomfortable) truth' here at TRP?

But hey, LOTS of kids ask "how can I become (more) Alpha, in AskTRP so maybe that's his calling! Posting his nostalgic moment amongst his peers (who also don't have a clue) and think TRP is some magic potion they can take to "become Mr Alpha"! lol

For a (supposedly) "super successful mid 30's businessman" he could really use some work on his Frame ... and IMO his OP had bugger all to do with 'teaching the young/er guys anything useful about RL which hasn't been already posted to death here, and to me it read like a complete "how great am was I in HS!?"

IMHO his OP was a bullshit brag, no more, but he seems not to have taken kindly to my critique!

Maybe I'm wrong, (I broke my shoulder (scapula) last friday, and it hurts a Lot, so maybe I'm just being a cranky old cunt projecting my pain onto others!?!

maybe,, I don't think so :D

Anyhoo, I understood your benevolent act mate, it was well intentioned (as usual) and I have NO problems at all, with that.

In fact, keep it up, your generally well considered thoughts and opinions from your RL experience bring a lot to this sub, and as I think you know me well enough to take it the 'right way', I'd likely say to you, IRL, (if you were "down here") "cheers cunt,"! :D

P.S a word with diametrically opposed meanings, fully dependant on context, which we use it downunder; you only give such a high compliment to the people whom you know and like, "cunt", (and most certainly never to strangers ... unless you're looking for fight!)

BTW If you ever come down this way, we'll have to catch up for a few cold ones at one of the many great pubs we have dowm here. I'd enjoy that! I think you would too! As well as gaming the Aussie women, who tend to be far more DTE than their US counterparts, I think you'd find both actions most refreshing!

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yeah a trip to Australia would be great.

I'm a huge fan of Peter Weir movies like Picnic At Hanging Rock and everything else he ever did.

Would love to drink beer... though I hear that Fosters is more popular here in the US than in Australia... is that true?

 

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah, Fosters was the 'Bud' of Oz when I was a kid, now it's primarily an export beer, (due to it's well known name) the working man now drinks VB aka Victoria Bitter made by the same brewery....

I think you'd love it down here mate! The weather, women, lifestyle ... and very cruisy people

we have many Fine breweries down here which I'd be more than happy to introduce you too!

BTW Check out an Aussie movie called The Castle, very working class, pretty honest and fuckin funny with a great ending .. probably on YT or similar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Castle_%281997_Australian_film%29

Happy to recommend others if you like

It's surprising how few yanks come down here! I think they're scared of all the deadly wildlife! lol

cheers cunt ...

[–]1bromyiqis900[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

My parents divorced at 11, so I was raised by a struggling single mom through all my formative years. As a young child, an only child, my parents, thanks to my fathers large income for a number of years, spoiled me, so I've lived both of those lives.

There was no money for college and kids from Alternative Ed, even though I ended with A's and B's did not get scholarships.

My best friend growing up, was not the guy from Alternative Ed, he was a very good friend, but not who I was talking about getting baby trapped.

You stalking my post history has failed to make any point I understand the reason for, other than you misinterpreting storylines that have nothing to do with one another since they are completely different sections of years.

I didn't "leech on to some Chad" I took an opportunity to put myself out there, and then I had to maintain that against my natural instincts.

Everything I wrote was true, and everything I write is true, my life has seen incredible change in 30+ years swinging wildly from extreme to extreme at times.

I write these things in the hopes that the young versions of me might find some hope or inspiration, but I am not a writer, nor a mentor, just a guy that's seen life from a few different extremes.

[–]RPmatrix -1 points0 points  (2 children)

You stalking my post history

lol, you call a quick look and noticing glaring inconsistencies constitutes "stalking"!!! e.g.

My father had died the summer of my freshman year

You made NO mention of a 'split up' ...

I write these things in the hopes that the young versions of me might find some hope or inspiration

bragging about when you were 15 is going to 'help'

As YOU stated in another post I quoted;

Source: Myself: I live in an expensive house with small children ...

Or are you a BB cuck? (you say you have LOTS of money and no kids) then why do you "share a house" with them? pffft lolol

I didn't "leech on to some Chad" I took an opportunity to put myself out there

wow, in a new enviroment any/everyone does the same, otherwise they're known as introverts, something you made crystal clear your not. You LUCKED out coz your mother CHOSE TO CHANGE YOUR SCHOOLS, not YOU!

wtf? PLUS you're married, with kids ... but 'spin plates'?

IMO you're at best exaggerating and at worst Lying outright.

I rest my case

[–]1bromyiqis900[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Who are you lol? I am not married, I've never been married, you have made three of the same comments throughout this thread, you have obviously read EVERY SINGLE POST OF MINE, hahahahaha.

You are obviously unstable and jealous as fuck, focus on your own life, the fuck does my parents split up have to do with my original post? It had no bearing on the story, I simply pointed it out after you tried to infer that I made up having a struggling single mom.

You are a fucking lunatic and a moron, do you not understand people can have parents who make a lot of money and then lose it? that parents divorce? that parents die? and all of this happens over the span of years.

I've been alive going on four decades you creaton, a lot of shit happens in that time, you are probably 14 and have no concept of this yet.

[–]RPmatrix -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude, I had NO parents by 17 and was making more money (and fucking FAR more HB's that you have yet to by the time I was 24.

You are a fucking lunatic and a moron, do you not understand people can have parents who make a lot of money and then lose it? that parents divorce? that parents die? and all of this happens over the span of years.

BUT, you said,, "your transformation into a CT "happened "overnight" (or can't I read either?)

Good to see you repond to criticism with ad hominem attacks -- I must have hit a nerve LOL

Tell me, how can I quote you about YOU "having kids"? Why say it IF it's a LIE?

And NO, as I said, I went through about the past 4 WEEKS of your posts ... how long have you been posting? ONLY 4 weeks? I guess you've deleted those "self-incrimiating posts" just like a solopsistic hamster would, beta boy making excuses to TRY and 'explain' how such inconsistencies occurred.

Oh, that's right, you're a 'keyboard warrior' Liar, and NOW nothing you say has any merit IMO, the truth is True, it doesn't change. Unlike your stories DO!

And I repeated it to different people who may not have seen my other posts, as MOST of us think you're only bragging, and "words are cheap" AND yours conflict with what you've posed recently) Just like a chicks Hamstering.

Didn't you read the bit where I said I UPvoted a couple of your comments (in othe subs, i.e. conspiracy, where you seem to spend quite a lot of time) whilst browsing ONLY the last 4 weeks of your posts (which took all of 15mins) You made some good points, even going as far as quoting the authors who taught you ALL you think you know! Totes OG Black jack!

Go on, "stalk me" (LOL) and find MY "lies" ..

BUT you wont, coz I don't need to bullshit, unlike some nupmty who's "best story with The Most RP advice you've got to offer, are either from HS or basically NON-existant. (and you say you're in your "mid 30's)

And the BEST you can do is abuse me ... coz you HAVE NO answers to being caught out bullshitting.

You still in the 'anger phase' sunshine -- and I for one DNGAF how much money you make/spend , But you're impressed with such superficialities and being a true solopsist. "think" other's here "think like you do"!

You do know what "Thought thought?" That you can plant an egg and grow a chicken!

Talk about a being a superficial beta pussy! lmao!:D Now that's something worth learning NOT to become!

Why don't YOU check out MY post history and LEARN I'm 50 and almost retired from money I made and invested in my 20's, kiddo. I work becoz I wan't to, I enjoy it. I tried doing nada and just travelling the world, but that got boring after after a few years. I did grow up in a walthy family BUT i wasn't spoiled.

And even though I still go OS once or twice a year, to play sports i.e bicycle polo, skiing, climbing, and/or motorbike touring through places like India

Having great Game only comes from practice, after HS -- in fact IF you read some of my posts I often tell HS kids here that RP philosophy only truly begins after HS, in the Real World without a "captive audience"

PLUS I give quality RP advice which works, coz people like myself and Neo learned through trial and error, (pre- internet and mobile phs and social media aka "the school of hard knocks", unlike you who can only spout a little RP knowledge you've READ and parrot like you've discovered the Philosphers Stone!

Get a life and then post some field reports and HOW to Game girls (like some of us CAN), and it's not "memories" that are 20+ YEARS OLD!

Until then, it's best you "remain silent and appear stupid than to post crap and remove ANY doubt"

[–]AcrossHallowedGround 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Hm. To be honest, I really like a good challenge. Maybe this isn't what you mean by struggle, but the more times I have to step back and reevaluate a problem before it's solved, the better I feel about the final solution.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Self improvement is a challenge.

The question is really "who do you work for?"

If you struggle for reasons "to your benefit" then that's good.

If you struggle to "provide benefit for others" then you are a slave.

One can exchange struggle for reward... it's called being a "wage slave".

 

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Would this go to the concept of freedom?

If you're struggling for your benefit, then you are truly free.

But, if you are struggling for someone else's benefit, then you are beta or a "slave".

And this distinction alters your ego-boundary? How likely you are to allow others to use you for their benefit

And alters your internal freedom? How in control you will allow yourself to be, either free alpha state or beta "slave" state?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right.

Freedom is literally "separation from the herd mind" and thinking about what is to your benefit.

The beta mind has no boundry which isn't shocking because we all begin life imitating our surroundings. It's through imitation that we learn most everything.

The problem with the Blue Pill emotional indoctrination techniques is they suppress consciousness so you never get to the point of being free.

The Blue Pill keeps you in a childlike Androgynous state where you just imitate everyone else.

The Red Pill is about breaking that default behavior of imitation and instead thinking for yourself based on your own (unprogrammed) thoughts.

Recognizing "the program" is a subtle task.

Much time is spent wondering:

"Is this thought really mine or was I brainwashed to think this?"

...once you can know the difference you are free.

 

[–]DforDeadpool 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Game as in the matrix of social interactions, yes?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Game" is the Matrix.

In other words when one has "Game" he becomes the creator of reality.

Game is the magician bending reality for his audience.

Masculine polarity is Game because it shifts reality in ways that optimize male and female emotions to the benefit of attraction.

Masculine polarity is the philosophy that maximizes biology.

Androgyny is the minimization or supression of biology.

If you want to reduce sexual attraction you become beta and Androgynous.

However, it's better to see it as inhibited emotional development.

Children are Androgynous by default.

So the Blue Pill creates betas who are essentially adult children and they achieve this task through the Blue Pill emotional indoctrination (tv, news, schools, etc) that systematically suppresses consciousness.

The Blue Pill "dumbs down" the masses and makes them Androgynous.

 

[–]wisty 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Remember that the beta mind wants to struggle. In the Matrix movie that was part of the programming that people need to believe that struggle earns results. When you make a sudden move and surprise people with Game that disturbs their idea of how things work so they dismiss it's truth.

Success IS a struggle, if it's the kind of success that normies don't have.

Having a few friends and doing what it takes to pass on your DNA? That's kind of what you've been bred for - it takes a special kind of talent to fuck up something you're ancestors have gotten right since the beginning of time.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Blue Pill is a globalist system of emotional indoctrination combined with seriously messed up laws. Child Support Laws and Divorce Rape work against nature and make reproduction very difficult.

Don't be fooled... these are difficult times.

We live in the most heavily brainwashed time in human history.

Fucking is the easy part, it's all the other stuff that makes families hard to create these days.

 

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember that the beta mind wants to struggle. In the Matrix movie that was part of the programming that people need to believe that struggle earns results.

This is true. Think I rather feel like I earned something instead of just taking something I might of already earned if I have a different mindset. For instance, may be that I just go talk to a girl and have fun, but sometimes I feel like I can be in better shape and the girls would come talk to me. I'm young, the lack of initiative and entitlement (for lack of a better word) makes me a chode. I may be struggling at the thing that brings in 20% of the result, when if I just focus on having some normal social skills with strangers then I might get 80% of the result. One reason may be that I already in somewhat a good shape and been active for a while, but the social skill is so lacking that even a bit of daily focus of action would have the beginning jump in progress. Focusing on the wrong things bring in unnecessary struggle, and the worse part is it might feel good doing the wrong things hoping for some results, when doing the right things will actually just be more efficient and less frustrating.

[–]Axel_Black 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can you please clarify more on the beta mind wanting to struggle?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The beta mind doesn't want to accept that he must change his insides to improve himself. The Red Pill requires heavy reprogramming and a lot of "apart from the herd" space. Frame is mental Freedom.

The beta simply wishes to continue his "Needy Androgyny" (a cute phrase) but bump it up on steroids and be a super hard worker looking to impress those he looks up to... who happen to be women.

Game means women perceive themselves as children to you... that's what you are trying to do... to give them a father to look up to and to struggle to please sexually. Women want to satisfy the desires of a strong masculine man who they feel is above them.

 

[–]CQC3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It honestly doesn't even matter if you completely fabricated it, it COULD happen and the point isn't some feel good story about the long haul but that you're showing the fickleness of social status. I know this because I learned the hard way that if you improve over a period of time drastically, but if you have no social backing or some sort of lifestyle you cultivated through the development of a skill, then you're nobody.

I joined a club at school and was treated more or less like a loser, despite being better dressed than most, decent looking, FAR, FAR funnier than any motherfucker there (and all types of humor at that) and I'm a considerably better conversationalist. The point being is that because I came into that established group without anything to vouch for me, I was essentially treated like a loser.

The kids who are running the group are really nothing impressive, and they keep a closed clique even within the club. The auxiliary members are there as just background noise. After the club activities are over, the cool kids just go hang out with their in group.

The irony is that these associations are fabricated and social status or acceptance into that group is solely based on how much you're willing to sacrifice of yourself. In my case, I was too self respecting. When you're confident, self respecting, and sociable but not desperate in the least (showing some weakness or deference basically) then you inspire contempt in others who fail to be able to categorize you. They can't seem to understand why someone who possesses these qualities would be alone.

There were a lot of subpar people who were accepted because they either socially prostrated themselves by acting very friendly but in an unattractive way (lacking frame for acceptance) or are a subattractive or nerdy romantic couple and therefore pose no real threat to poaching the in group which all has their own fucking drama.

The point is that people are incredibly judgmental and poor at reading others at that. If you cannot be easily categorized, this is often a bad thing. People need some external proof that you're some kind of person before they accept you.

It's funny, I was butthurt when this first happened, I was annoyed. These cunts are not that impressive, but they had it over me somehow. Then I realized how groups work, and thats a shitty thing altogether. The people I was willing to give a chance to make friends with in the group were the same that I wouldn't want to be friends with by the time I could get them as friends. Ironically, if I started my own group and got to a decent following, then this group would likely have changed their tune immediately, despite my being the exact same.

Lesson learned: Charisma comes after aura. Aura is a product of perceived or imagined social stature. In reference to groups. Charisma can be had anywhere else if you're in your element. How groups react to you is solely based on how the in group behaves. Not all groups are this petty, but most of them surprisingly are. Whether it is school, social, or work. Law 1: Never Outshine the Master is the first for a damn reason.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Downvotes do not matter, because this is not a democracy.

I am pointing /u/bromyiqis900 for his excellent post, and I will sticky it later when the current sticky article expires.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think when I pointed out that it was a good story people took notice and the numbers turned around.

When I arrive upon a heavily downvoted post I always check out "why" it might be and if things don't seem right I'll speak up.

 

[–]2Overkillengine 74 points75 points  (26 children)

Didn't matter if they were good looking, jacked, funny, smart, how they dressed, none of it, because they had no group, it was starting from scratch, their previous "label" had been stripped away, their former status was null and void, we are all on the island now.

One can observe this same phenomenon in basic training. It's hilarious. People that clear up until that point in their lives had lived with a social support network at their back and had never realized what it was like to be nothing.

Those that were forced to develop value outside of social status did much better.

It is one of the reasons I think mandatory military service for full citizenship would be a good thing; it forces people to experience this and potentially develop perspective from a position of humility as well as learn what a collectivist life is truly like instead of the utopian ideal they get indoctrinated with in academia.

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    [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (9 children)

    I think that a peace corp option for those who dont want to go to war would be good as well.

    [–]1bromyiqis900[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Also, mandatory community service, perhaps 1000 hours or something to earn a diploma.

    Less people would fight against that being instituted over a more military, hard training scenario, as good as it might be for everyone.

    Force kids to get their hands dirty in service to others, soup kitchens, parks cleanup, etc.

    [–]ThereAndBlackAgain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I'd suggest a revision to it that could work: mandatory basic training for men at military age. Nothing else. You go in, you get trained, you learn discipline, strength, how to bond with your male peers, and confidence of action through your combat training. Then you walk out, no service obligations.

    The military still wins: every man will have a foot in the door of a military career with connections already established.

    Men win big time. A fallback career they already know the ins and outs of, all the benefits I outlined above, plus a social network of similar men who they've been through tough times with.

    Honestly, the exercise would be worth it if its lone export was a generation of men who know better than to react the moment the world tests them.

    [–]deeman010 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Israel already does this, Korea too but just the guys. Just make it a slight detour after college or before getting a job. Something like 2 years should be next to nothing to most people.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    In Israel, when they finish they get a nice little chunk of change. Its a right of passage, and after 20 when they finish you can usually find a former IDF kid in the hostel with a few of his/her chums.

    Its a great thing to give a little of your time to something bigger in exchange for a nice paycheck and some learned skills

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If I coulda done 2 years before college I absolutely would have.

    Unfortunately, the minimum active duty I think was four or six years.

    [–]steggun_cinargo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Works well in quite a few European countries.

    [–]JackNicholson2 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    I was actually a "loser" in high school and am enlisting in the army in a few days. Can you elaborate a bit please and give me some tips possibly?

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      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      What do you do to avoid the whiners and complainers? And how do you handle them when you're stuck with them? I had to learn the hard wat that you also need to screen people in that way.

      [–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Pack light. One good set of civilian attire, you won't get much time to wear them anyways until you are at your permanent duty station, and it's extra weight you have to lug around and have locked up. Don't bring any expensive shit; recruitment draws from all sectors of society which includes the scummy ones.

      Also, if you are in the delayed entry program and have a few months before you ship out, start working out now to get in to as good as shape as you can ahead of time or you'll regret it later when you are too beat down to focus properly. Plus being in shape is a rarity in modern society and thus has social value.

      Once you are there, focus on learning as much as you can as quickly as you can to be the person that gets shit done. Everyone is having to start from ground zero and some will not be able to resist resorting to old social drama habits.

      Avoid those people when you can. They are the ones most likely to cause mass punishments if their ego gets fed. The resulting social isolation will either force them to fall in line or get chaptered out.

      Will there be a social/political element? Sure. The key to eventual popularity is either kicking ass or kissing ass, but no one trusts a kiss ass.

      [–]john1443 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      It is one of the reasons I think mandatory military service for full citizenship would be a good thing; it forces people to experience this and potentially develop perspective from a position of humility as well as learn what a collectivist life is truly like instead of the utopian ideal they get indoctrinated with in academia.

      You want to take away people's freedom to show them what it is like to not have freedom? After they have survived your grand idea, they get back what they have already had; that, which is already a collectivist idea: citizenship. Le what?

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        [–]2Overkillengine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Hence my suggestion that if one wants full citizenship it is mandatory that they invest in society instead of being automatically granted full power to fuck it up by default.

        People do not value what they did not have to earn.

        [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (4 children)

        Omegas become the alphas of their own pack. Well done following your instincts and changing for the better.

        [–]blackhawks93 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

        Can you elaborate? I thought omegas < alphas

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        In some cases, Omegas are the outsiders to the "in-group", they refuse to join the "in-group" and become a beta and therefore they are shunned by the alpha and ridiculed not only for enjoyment, but also to minimize any threat they might pose.

        Since an Omega refuses to become beta, they're only option is to go Alpha, and that means creating their own circle or "in-group", which they are the Alpha of, of course.

        Its not so much as Alphas > Omegas, but its all relative, if an Alpha lost it's pack he would be an Omega until he found a new one. Equate it to a general who lost his army, if he doesn't have an army, he's still a general but no one cares.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Enough weak in a big group can dethrone a small group of strong.

        [–]darkhindu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Omega is more outside the group than weak member of the group (imo). You can be have strong omega tendencies or weak ones, based a lot on the way you interact with your environment.

        A supplicating omega has no value in the group and constantly tries to bring value to himself by supplicating. However an omega that just doesn't want to play by the packs rules is similarly treated disdainfully but not becuase he's a punk bitch but because he refuses to do what's right as defined by the group. Obviously it can have more complexity than that but for our purposes both a loser (autismal, quick dopamine reward addict, etc) and a mgtow can be an omega.

        Remember though, these terms are nebulous and you can be an alpha (leader), beta (follower) or omega (outsider) variably in different domains.

        [–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (7 children)

        I went from being just another guy to being popular my junior year in college. By senior year, I didn't give a fuck. Too many fake ass people and plus, all I cared about was graduating.

        And all it took is me paying a prostitute $50 to get me started. Now that's a quick story lol

        [–]1bromyiqis900[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        That definitely is a quick story. Prostitutes are the only real life coaches.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        The only real life coaches. You da real mvp

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          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Girls could tell I got laid so they started talking to me. They would open conversations. They would walk with me on campus. They would introduce me to people they knew. Things like that. Then dudes started kissing up, even dudes I knew and didn't like.

          [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Congrats on your success

          the alpha wolf doesn't ever want to be a lone wolf, lone wolves get slaughtered, he in only alpha with his pack.

          But the Sigma does not.

          Anyway, this is a good story for guys who had it rough in HS and will find themselves in a new social situation after, whether college or otherwise, that creates a chance for a clean break and fresh start/reinvention.

          [–]redditalias7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Theta wolves be like...fuk dat.

          [–]1PrinceofSpades 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Very relatable to my own story, but in the opposite sense. I made the decision to stay in my shitty situation even as my parents begged me to let them move and for me to start over, because I had a crippling Atlas complex growing up. I was the cool kid, fucked up socially big time, and lost everything. I felt it was my responsibility to bear the fault of my actions. This led me to being a total fucking loser by the time college started, and my freshman year was hell. Thankfully I found seddit and TRP shortly afterwards, and made a miracle recovery socially and physically in college. Never reached top dog status, but understood how to hang with those people. Threw the biggest party my school had ever seen (it's a small campus). Got laid often. I've gone from drowning in female attention in 6th grade to being the least desirable man in my entire high school to drowning in female attention by then end of university.

          Can confirm your theory though; that really is all it would have taken for me to be significantly more happy and successful. I noticed it from my own observations time and time again.

          [–]redditalias7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Funny how the same person can be the sexiest guy in the room or the cringiest, just depends on the story that's been told to the people looking.

          This is a standout statement. It's very true. Similarly, I've found it odd how I can be rejected by girls that are 6's and 7's then just short while later find myself an 8 or even 9 that loves me.

          [–]Red_Swords 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Good post. I'll be honest, I was expecting something of a lower quality, with the infomercial-esque title. I can really relate though, and in my experience, what you say is absolutely true. It's hard to believe how stark the contrast can be unless you've experienced something like it yourself.

          I think this phenomena - I don't know if there's common term for it around here yet, but let's call it 'the stranger effect' - is another important reason why it's so beneficial to constantly be on the lookout for potential new avenues of expansion for your social circle. Not only will encounters with new groups serve as a litmus test of your SMV, but because you can't be everywhere and do everything, you'll naturally drift further away from those groups that think less of you, and closer toward the ones that value and respect you.

          And that leads to more genuine friendships, a sense of social abundance, more opportunities to get laid, more options for job hunting or professional networking, and probably even more good things that I can't think up off the top of my head. Generally not all at once of course, but like most things in life, you need to invest for a while before you start seeing real returns.

          [–]chrisElRey123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Good on you mate.

          Appearance proves to be reality once again. Fake it till you make it. Simplistic, but then again, peoples' perception is simplistic.

          [–]UncleSniffy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          ah man dude this post made me really happy to read this was my EXACT experience when I was in high school, same year as you too! literally every experience that you had matched mine, and all this time I thought it was uncommon lol unfortunately though I never got that same experience of going to an alt school like that but to be able to escape an environment where you face verbal abuse from everyone around you every single day and to go somewhere to start as a new person is one of the greatest feelings ever.

          [–]hbPUA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          This is a great reminder of how a change of location, have a huge influence after you have undergone hardships. Learned by them. Then get to a new place where every one see you as you have become.

          [–]mksu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Good post. Which is why "ghosting" is a thing. People will put you in a labeled box and any effort to change the mold will be met with a lot of resistance.

          You could lift all day, dress better, learn all the cool phrases to make chicks swoon, but if you are the geek, or the loser in your school/town/job you may not get the response you really want, you may just have to change your zip code.

          Well said.

          [–]dicklord_airplane 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Good points on changing your scene if youre already at the bottom of your current scene. If youre known as an unfuckable loser in a social network, then youre often better off forgetting about that scene and getting into new networks where you can build a new reputation any way you like. It is infinitely easier to pick up completely new girls rather than trying to attract girls who already see you as a low status guy despite all of your self improvements.

          [–]MrRexels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I was expecting a link selling me a book or something at the end. It read too much like a clickbait advertisement.

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          [–]The_Man_on_the_Wall -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

          My favorite was when he prefaced the story with "Alright just a quick story " ...

          [–]1bromyiqis900[S] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

          Back in my day, this was a quick story, today if it's not three lines people are like, "FUCK, am I reading War and Peace here? can we get done with this epic already?!"

          [–]The_Man_on_the_Wall 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          I'm 40. So when in time was your "day" that a 27 Paragraph story is a "quick story'?

          [–]1bromyiqis900[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          If something takes 4 minutes to read, that would be a quick story, have you ever read a book in 4 minutes?

          Jesus Christ the attention span of people is like dealing with a bunch of fucking goldfish.

          [–]The_Man_on_the_Wall -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          I have the attention span to read whatever illustrious tome you put in front of me. And the gray matter to understand it.

          You put a post on Reddit. Let's not act like your Tolstoy ...

          And no, I didnt read much further than "Quick Story" after I saw the wall of text that accompanied it. So I wrote a snarky little reply. Get over it, Hemingway.

          [–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (14 children)

          The point of this story is to remind you that if you are stuck in a shitty label, or shitty area, you can change it, you can change the scenery and be the anyone you want to be.

          At 15yo?

          I don't think so. Few kids get such an opportuniity, esp now 20yrs later.

          You lucked out bro, it's that simple.

          And in your mid 30's this is the best advice you have to 15yo males?

          talk about a (semi) humblebrag.

          [–]1Alphaspire 3 points4 points  (9 children)

          He lucked out, but he also seized his opportunity. Without taking the risk and trying, he would have still ended up in the same boat as before.

          There is an important lesson to be learned here, or at least to be reaffirmed for those who've already learned it.

          [–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (7 children)

          and what 'lesson' is that?

          "nothing ventured, nothing gained"?

          [–]mraesthetics 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          Exactly this type of scenario is not common in real life, you can't just switch places at your whims and fancies.

          The fact is though if you are seen as a loser in college or whatever, it's going to be really hard to get rid of that label.

          [–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          agreed, here's one of his comments from a few weeks ago

          I came from a poor single mother, no college, no scholarships for my terrible grades.

          BUT, kust a few days earlier he SAYS:

          Source: Myself: I live in an expensive house with small children --- I grew up being spoiled rotten and it took incredible work to become a decently adjusted human being that didn't expect the world to give him everything

          this guy just likes telling eveyone how hard he worked and how much money he makes

          BUT, I don't agree with this comment unless your peer group never changes, and IME swallowing TRP tends to change who you find worthy of hanging out with

          The fact is though if you are seen as a loser in college or whatever, it's going to be really hard to get rid of that label.

          I looked back at over a month the OP's posts and IF they're true, then this one isn't!

          and not One piece of original and useful RP advice, at least nothing that hasn't been already written in stone

          "words are cheap" especially OP's (other people's) words

          [–]mraesthetics 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          The post is more of a reflection of his self aggrandizing behavior rather than the idea of changing one's reputation.

          I agree that you can change a bad reputation by hanging out with new people and also changing your behavior but doing so requires a lot of effort, reading and work in general; it certainly can't be done the way the OP did it in most situations.

          [–]1Alphaspire 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          A lesson some people may have taken away:

          The way you can establish yourself in new contexts is empowering. When you go out to a place where nobody knows you, you create the reality of who you are to new people. While this is an old lesson to many, reaffirming lessons is useful, and reading about how that situation unfolded and how OP's actions defined his place in that social hierarchy was a different perspective on that lesson. New ways of seeing old lessons are important, as they reaffirm those lessons in a slightly different way, which increases the chances of your mind putting together other helpful things in different (related) contexts.

          [–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Yes, I can see your point. I still think he's just bragging for reasons I'd rather not get into .. just read the last month of his posting history to see the discrepencies and conflicting posts he's made in a few week! wtf?!

          And so, I don't think your pov it applies to this post -- 20 YEARS ago is a long time to be telling the same story, which I think many of us here do know and can therefore "talk their walk"

          But, as I said, at 17, even for a clever guy like myself, much RP philosophy would have fallen through the deep blue hole in my mind at the time, as I explained in another post ITT ... NOBODY "becomes CT overnight!" NOBODY, and yet that's what the title and gist of his post was in my understanding

          [–]1bromyiqis900[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It's not about being 15 years old, it's about changing your location if you have too much of a fight to shake your old label.

          At 15, that of course may not be possible, but at 18 it is. A lot of guys can read TRP all day and still feel hopeless because their, family, their friends, their community all has a label for them.

          Maybe they have a few drug charges, maybe their family has a humiliating history in the town, etc etc.

          The point of the story isn't that everything can be great tomorrow, it's that there's hope, there's a chance to start over for everyone.

          It may not present itself with great fortune like it did for me, but you yourself can be the catalyst for the change.

          High school ends, college ends, leases end, jobs end, marriages end, there's a way for everyone to start fresh with a new story.

          [–]JihadDerp 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          You're right. Getting thrust into a neutral environment was key to this story. He even said in his own post that he would have been suicidal if he stayed at his old school. So this post is mostly useless unless you are in similar circumstances. Completely useless to the losers stuck at their same school. It doesn't really explain how to overcome that status in that environment.

          [–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I couldn't agree more, and a few weeks ago he posted this comment:

          Source: I live in an expensive house with small children and I get ads for all kinds of shit like this including muralists that charge upwards of $10,000 to paint a room scene.

          I grew up being spoiled rotten and it took incredible work to become a decently adjusted human being that didn't expect the world to give him everything

          [–]1Alphaspire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You can apply OP's circumstances in other contexts. Going anywhere where there isn't an established group dynamic is fairly common (easy to imagine: bars, clubs, whatever social events) and applying the lessons you could learn or have reaffirmed from this post would be useful.

          [–]SmilingWatermelon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Nobody knows you're a bitch until you show them.

          [–]ligars-are-real 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I had almost the exact same thing happen to me. The only difference was there were already clicks at the alternative school I went to

          [–]toothpickhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I've always been decent with girls, and in a pretty popular circle, but in my sophomore year of uni I looked around and realized all the hottest girls didn't even know my name and I'd been at the the same parties as them for 2 years. I had been put in somewhere near the bottom of the hierarchal system within my new group of friends. That's when I found redial. I stopped going out with that group, and started going to different places with my friends. I started pulling hot girls all the time. I would go back to that group and almost slip right back in to my role. It took me a few tries to build up the idea that I had changed and I was going to show them. It worked, I did well in that group, but there was still that thought "I would never be the biggest alpha among that group" So instead I went monk mode, focused more on school, intramurals to make other friends, and hitting the gym. I go out when I want to the places I want, and have fun and bring girls home that way. I am very happy I found redial when I did, and I'm super eager to apply what I have learned when I leave school and go to travel in Europe and Australia. I feel like a similar situation will happen with me as it did to you. Congrats man!

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I had similar experience. I moved about 10 times during k-12 and it was hell on wheels. Especially when you move in the middle of the school year, you don't know anybody, everyone already has their friends, and they're really mean to the new kid. it sucked balls.

          [–]alvlear 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          just turn a blind I all together

          Did you intend to write this? This is excellent. I shall appropriate this turn of phrase.

          Since you have given me this gift, I will give in return. With regards to your post, the following link is to an essay by Howard Bloom, Reality is a shared hallucination. It elucidates the biological predilections of human collectives. It's TRP on steroids. Here is an excerpt:

          But careful analysis revealed that the group was moving to a unified rhythm. One little girl, far more active than the rest, covered the entire schoolyard in her play. Hall and his student realized that without knowing it, she was "the director" and "the orchestrator."

          http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/2/2227/1.html

          [–]targus_4d3d3d3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          So how to go from being the biggest loser to the most popular kid is to start over at a new school where nobody knows each other and then latch on to the coolest looking kid there?

          [–]dave_is_not_here 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          New kid moving to a small town works, too. I got in too much trouble at school and the folks decided to move. Mom's a sharp one so she sought out a tiny school with shitty test scores so her precious angel could be the biggest baddest fish in the tiny little pond full of stupid fish. Worked great. I couldn't comprehend for the life of me why she did it, but the day before my first day Madukes gave me the keys to her brand new Jeep Liberty, making some transparent excuse about my shitty old Caddy being easier on her back. As an adult with back pain now I know it was the exact opposite; slinging her aching old ass down into that low riding Deville had to KILL. .....damn, Ma.

          [–]GMUwhat1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'm Asian male, I do all these things but I'm still alone and made fun of :(

          [–]MonkeyDFreecs 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          What a great story, I felt really bad about your high school life, I only had about 3 guys picking on me in high school but it seems like you had teachers and the whole student body after you. Even before I became cake guy I was cool with almost everyone. It is like they were begging you to shoot up the place. I mostly kept to myself so I never really did anything that would make people target me or even notice me.

          I started showing off my talent for acting and it has increased my social status. I'm still discovering myself, lifting, and of course looking up new cake recipes.

          [–]1bromyiqis900[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          there were a number of kids who got it pretty bad on the verbal side, this was right before columbine so no one really even considered a shooting an option back in the early in mid-nineties.

          I had heard from some younger girls I was still fucking in 99/00 still in high school that things changed A LOT after that, with teachers actually having to put a stop to any kind of bullying or teasing.

          [–]aa223 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          A lot of times the best solution for your problems is a change of environment. I was in college to be an engineer but I kept feeling depressed and was a total beta plus I couldn't get a job outside of tutoring. Little by little I discovered the red pill and I decided to transfer to another school and become a math teacher.

          I'm happier and I have changed from becoming obsessed with wearing long coats and trying to feel like Dante from Devil May Cry with a cowboy hat to being obsessed with wearing suits, sportcoats, and blazers and caring about my appearance overall. I also work as a substitute teacher which yeah it isn't much but better than not working. Also, I did take a tutoring job which in a semester I established myself as one of the best.

          Also, I started being a little active by biking since running is boring and I would like to start biking to places rather than take the bus. I also lost some weight so that is cool too. In any case, if anyone is in a bind maybe changing the environment can open up new doors. I mean you pretty much went to an alternative high school which was a new environment and now you are better for it.

          [–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          this is amazing.. and you have no idea how bad i want to do this bro, but i'm stuck for now financial.. really need a new scenery, you can literally be anyone you want in a new town, i saw someone posted a thread a few days back " 3 things that will make you smile " and the first one was true, girls assume you're alpha as fuck.

          [–]Moldy_Gecko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I have the same story, but not sure if it was the pot of the new school that changed me. I literally went to the same school as the "Cool" group since second grade. Total single-mom, only child loser. I listened to my mom about girls, acted up a lot, etc. Finally, my sophomore year, I lost it. I stopped trying to fit in and hung out with the outcasts (some actually really cool people). Due to my hard time that year, I was almost all Ds and Fs, so my parents' transferred me to a school closer to where they had moved.

          I instantly had a fresh start. Hit it off (although friendzoned) with some pretty hot chearleaders. Hung out with the skaters. Was on the wrestling team (one of the best in the state). I made friends with almost everyone except for this cool kid, bad boy wannabe. He started spreading a rumor I was gay and one day as I walked by he said, "Fag Patrol". I grabbed my binder and smacked him upside the head, he swung and missed and I put him in a headlock and started punching his head (I am/was a black belt in Karate) until I got bored and waited for a teacher. Instant popularity at that school (just like the movies). I even ran for Class Treasurer that year. However, I did fail a second semester of English due to some project I didn't understand (the kids there had been doing it since Junior High). I also wanted to graduate with the people I had grown up with, so I requested to go back to my old school. Also, around mid-year 11, I started smoking pot.

          When I went back to my old school, I think everyone noticed my demeanor had changed. I knew what it was like to be cool now. I wasn't 100% in with the cool crowd, but I was there friend. They'd invite me to parties and shit. I was getting better with the girls. Even had courage to ask out one of the girls I had crushed on since Second grade (one of the big reasons for my nerd label) to dance and was accepted. This completely changed my world for a while. Joining the military in 2001, dumbest shit I ever did.

          [–]EntitledShitHead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          People believe what you show them, this is repeated over and over in red pill. You could lift all day, dress better, learn all the cool phrases to make chicks swoon, but if you are the geek, or the loser in your school/town/job you may not get the response you really want, you may just have to change your zip code.

          That is so true. Act like a king to be treated like a king. People are like children - they react how suggest they should react.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          gj mate, would like more detailed of what you've really changed in you 1,2,3 things instead just genreral but thx tho nice story

          [–]dumstick 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Not to e a Debbie downer. But you were alpha in a group of social retards. If you read the post about the ex convict you would know alphaness is relative to Your environment.

          [–]1bromyiqis900[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          You are making an assumption that this was some kind of retard school, many of these kids were super popular big time partiers with tons of friends.

          The only thing these kids lacked, was good grades, their social calendars were full, there were a few formerly introvert cases like me that were smart but unmotivated to use it, and a few true crazies, but the majority of the school was cool kids from their own schools who basically had a "fuck off" attitude about applying themselves.

          Social retards.....these kids had more pussy and dick by 14 than 99% of this sub has had put together.

          [–]NiceTryDisaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Great post i have read in a long time! 10/10

          [–]KIZAN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I entirely agree with you but some circumstances can't change.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yeah, i had to reapeat my last year of school and decided to change myself at that point too. I've experienced similar things you mentioned. I am so thankful for that one year

          [–]prettyflamazing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Step 1. Build a new school.

          [–]Betterthanuatlife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          ''No real friends because my parents weren't smart enough to enroll me in things like sports that would allow me access to a decent life with my peers by making actual friends.''

          Yes let's blame your parents for your shortcomings.

          [–]DeltaEmerald -7 points-6 points  (9 children)

          You went from a loser in your normal high school to a "winner" in your new high school, a high school filled with the worst of the surrounding high schools.

          Oh yeah man, you did a great job. /s

          [–]UncleSniffy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          oh yeah because going to public school is something to really be proud of lmao this fuckin guy

          [–]1bromyiqis900[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

          Actually these were probably the coolest kids of all those schools with a few weirdo exceptions.

          I'd bet good money 90% of the dudes in Alt ed would have kicked the shit out of you and fucked your girlfriend, and today most of them have great paying jobs, most of which are in the blue collar sector but they are still doing way better than all those "normal" kids who today are fat, low wage, balding and married to some sandpaper pussy cunt.

          [–]gonorealover 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          married to some sandpaper pussy cunt.

          Its like fucking your anus with a cactus. Why would you even do that to yourself? Some men i tell you ...

          [–]dapowa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Get back on the treadmill, Nancy. If his story is true; I've chosen to believe it is, it has a lesson that reinforces concepts from our very own sidebar - you've visited that, right?

          [–]Reddened 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          Why are so many people in this sub such dicks? If you have a point to make that has value just be direct and make the damn point instead of tearing people down.

          In any case I disagree with your argument. Even if we assume that this new group was full of low status people (which isn't a fair assumption), learning how to be the most alpha person of a particular group is better than not being an alpha in any group.

          [–]1Alphaspire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Some people equate putting others down with being alpha, and behave as if we're still in 4th grade here anonymously online.

          [–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You don't look bigger by pretending everyone else is small. One week ban.